no
#dev-general
quiet depot
pale shell
yes
ok ty
guys we're collabing with HC piggy said yes
44 people on the subreddit ??
onyx loom
haskell popular
pale shell
it's free to join the subreddit btw guys
hot hull
Since when is concrete 1.12 lol?
prisma wave
¯_(ツ)_/¯
boreal needle
broc in helpchat?
boreal needle
most ambitious crossover ever
foggy axle
I think I was in here a long time ago
jovial warren
😳
Hello
Right, maybe that was a bit too far
All I want to know is why you don't seem to like me
foggy axle
I don’t dislike you, I dislike yatopia
jovial warren
Didn't really seem like that tbh
foggy axle
I love everyone
jovial warren
You also complain when I share my project, even when I am justified to do so
I don't want to be hostile towards people, I like to get along with others, I just didn't get the best of impressions from you, and sometimes it felt like you were out there to get at me
old wyvern
Did someone post HelpChat's invite link in the paper discord or something?
jovial warren
Yeah I was gonna ask that
old wyvern
ahh
foggy axle
No someone told me bardy was talking shit about me for no reason lol
old wyvern
lol
boreal needle
lmao
jovial warren
Alright
sweet cipher
I agree broccoli is a lie
old wyvern
jovial warren
Kinda feel bad now lol
jovial warren
True
old wyvern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPk4A_avBM4
this is pretty much what this reminded me of
lol
jovial warren
I didn't expect to be wrong lucy
jovial warren
True
old wyvern
Functions > literals
prisma wave
well you see
old wyvern
a python dev?
a Haskell chad!
prisma wave
in REAL languages booleans are just algebraic data types
boreal needle
is c not a real language then
prisma wave
absolutely not
boreal needle
you're not real
boreal needle
you said it yourself
old wyvern
√(-c)
prisma wave
incredible
why would my loggers be in debug mode even though i dont have it enabled
i dont set the log level anywhere by defualt
confusing
forest pecan
Sorry, that was an oversimplified statement lol. I didn’t actually legitimately meant that. I was too lazy to write down others 😰
boreal needle
the guy does a load of really cool stuff and you say this ;_;
jovial warren
Lol
forest pecan
the guy does a load of really cool stuff and you say this ;_;
I know 😢
obtuse gale
Tf is half the paper team doing in here 😂 that was surprising
static zealot
they're here for me of course ...
omg. I just found a log from my server from like 2 years ago when I tried using skript
obtuse gale
Ew
static zealot
oh I remember
I Was looking for anti xray options (not knowing paper has one) and I tried a skript and that skript turned out to just crash servers. I think it had a back door too
xD
static zealot
no you can't.
I am actually considering switching every plugin on my server to skripts.
way more flexible, way more easy to use, way faster so basically better in any way
obtuse gale
Can someone ban this guy already?
onyx loom
😱
half harness
if only netbeans had skript support 😭 😭 😭
jovial warren
Using Skript is not a sin, there are at least two things I can think of that are sinful:
- Enjoying/endorsing Skript
- Thinking that being able to use Skript makes you a pro developers
hot hull
You should be shot
jovial warren
I've used Skript before to see just how bad these scripts really are
half harness
making worldedit in skript is bad
sturdy swan
Skript is amazing, I mean look at some of the amazing plugins people have made in skript
steel heart
Maybe one day I will make Skript in Skript
old wyvern
Lmao, I remember that dude
half harness
🥶
steel heart
Skript is amazing, I mean look at some of the amazing plugins people have made i...
Pog
static zealot
amazing plugins xD
didn't we raid this guy's discord server?
oh no that was BetterBubble anti cheat i think
half harness
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/the-god-eye-the-ultimate-anticheat-skript.307...
lol so many reviews say "laggy"
hi piggy
steel heart
Piggy be lurkin around the corner
static zealot
it was this one Yugi
maybe you guys did another one
when I wasn't here
but I know for sure we did betterbubble
static zealot
sturdy swan
Im bored so I applied for a rank in #role-request is it supposed to delete my message? does it go off to some seperate channel or smthn?
static zealot
on any movement:
if bruh(player):
stop```yeah it does
old wyvern
Im bored so I applied for a rank in <#538559611234680862> is it supposed to dele...
Yes, its supposed to do that
sturdy swan
kk cool
static zealot
you'll have to wait as well lmao. Been waiting for weeks now
old wyvern
Piggy/Lemmo will review at some point
half harness
/Matt
old wyvern
matt reviews too?
static zealot
# --- ( PREMIUM ) ---
# IF YOU LEAK THE CODE YOU WILL BE BANNED!
# NO REFUNDS!
# DO NOT MESS WITH THE CONFIGS!
# --- ( PREMIUM ) ---```for kotlin iirc
steel heart
Peaches maybe you’ll be lucky gettin piggy to review rn
static zealot
matt reviews too?
kotlin code yes.
old wyvern
oh ok
half harness
```yml
# --- ( PREMIUM ) ---
# IF YOU LEAK THE CODE YOU WILL BE BANNED!
# NO R...
u bought premium?
half harness
static zealot
and it ends there xD
old wyvern
Banned from what tho? xD
static zealot
idk lmao
old wyvern
xD
static zealot
and its free
obtuse gale
Lmao
old wyvern
What is it?
static zealot
stop
old wyvern
wha xD
steel heart
Can a programming language be both interpreted and compiled
old wyvern
Kind of
quiet depot
yes
static zealot
he is listerally not considering players with elytra's as cheaters
if I read this correctly
old wyvern
1 case would be a separate interpretter/compiler. Other case would be an interpretter with a JIT
static zealot
so no, flying, no riding, no elytra amazing
distant sun
skript and anticheat in the same sentence, bruh
static zealot
like it literally doesn't do the checks for you if you're flying, riding, or have an elytra
on
distant sun
I swear imma put a skript check on all my plugins and disable them if skript is installed
static zealot
don't even need to be flying lmao
static zealot
I swear imma put a skript check on all my plugins and disable them if skript is ...
plugman too
lmao
steel heart
Hmm Yugi okay nice cuz my web programming teacher told me it wasn’t possible
old wyvern
Hmm Yugi okay nice cuz my web programming teacher told me it wasn’t possible
He probably meant something else
steel heart
Yeah
prisma wave
anyone know a good way of doing "dynamic data" in a sql table?
let me elaborate a bit
so i want to log various events with a discord bot, i currently have 3 types of event ```kt
enum class EventType {
USER_LEAVE,
USER_JOIN,
USER_MESSAGE
}
the event log table has an action (eventtype), timestamp, and data (usually an id) columnso for user_leave, the data is the user's id
user_message has the channel id
this works fine, but it only works if i want to store a single id related to the action
i wanna add some more event types that require some more detailed data storage (for example logging when someone modifies a bot setting, i need to log who did it, the setting that was changed, etc)
old wyvern
Possibly use a separate table for the events
quiet depot
yeah just use different tables
prisma wave
like a different table for each event?
quiet depot
yes
old wyvern
mhm
user_msg -> (channel_id, timestamp)
user_join -> (user_id, timestamp)
user_leave -> (user_id, timestamp)
old wyvern
I think you should be able to join those if you even wanted them together
heady birch
event (id, event_type_id,...)
event_type(event_type_id, name) ?
quiet depot
what is ... niall
heady birch
other fields he wants
rather than event type being enum cant it just be another table
distant sun
he's niall
quiet depot
it doesn't need to be stored in a database
heady birch
true
quiet depot
a field for event type is all that's needed to refer to the hard coded bit
distant sun
Niall have you deleted your discord server?
heady birch
yeah ages ago
distant sun
welp
old wyvern
coc?
heady birch
i wanna build a weather station
quiet depot
sounds like a gigantic task
sturdy swan
why would you build your own weather station tho....
static zealot
Hmm so why does Konsole (kde neon terminal) keep asking me every like 1-2 days for my github name and token (every time I try to clone or something like that of course). Is there no way to store them and just read them from there every time?
quiet depot
yes
there is a way to store them
I've got no idea how to do it though, gitkraken sets git up for me
static zealot
hmm I Found another post that looks promising on stack over flow. let's see if this works
ah it would save the credentials in plaintext
old wyvern
ah
static zealot
but it will store them in plain text
well I Mean they're already saved in plain text
so it works for me :)))
old wyvern
lol
distant sun
on spigot is there any way to use a client side mod to create something like a staff chat?
the client sends the message, it gets broadcasted to all staff members and those that have the mod installed will see it different / on a different area of their screen
old wyvern
Yes
Make a custom packet
add some extra handshake to let the server know that the user is using your mod
send to staff who are using mod
distant sun
Make a custom packet
I gess that's done with the api of let's say, fabric?
old wyvern
Havent used fabric, for spigot, theres a nms packet class for custom packets I think
ocean quartz
Fabric is very nice
steel heart
Ye pretty sure fabric has some api wrapper for that
distant sun
if the packet is done with fabric, how will the server know about its existence?
old wyvern
You will have the same packet implemented on the server as well
steel heart
Intercept the packet
old wyvern
theres a nms packet class for custom packets I think
or yea, you can intercept the netty pipeline
obtuse gale
`theres a nms packet class for custom packets I think`
That's what we in Bukkit know as plugin messaging
steel heart
Thought you always had to inject into netty stuff when intercepting packets 😮
old wyvern
Oh plugin messaging uses that?
obtuse gale
Oh wait
old wyvern
I only saw the actual nms class
obtuse gale
No no I read that wrong
old wyvern
oh ok
distant sun
uhh, nms
obtuse gale
But you can use plugin messaging too lol
ocean quartz
To communicate with client?
obtuse gale
Yeah
ocean quartz
Interesting
prisma wave
Hmm so why does Konsole (kde neon terminal) keep asking me every like 1-2 days f...
Use SSH keys instead
Password authentication bad
old wyvern
plugin messaging exists for communication with the client I think
using it for bungee is just a side effect
distant sun
interesting
static zealot
Password authentication bad
its not password. its the token they generated for me or whatever. I also have no clue how to set ssh keys for that but I'll look into it. also I'll have to see where it saved the token bcz I've already enabled it xD
prisma wave
Token Auth bad too
Just tell github your public key and you can clone, push etc without needing to configure any other details
onyx loom
conclusion: ssh good?
prisma wave
Indubitably
onyx loom
fancy word
obtuse gale
Yes
static zealot
well now all I Need to do is find where the hell it stored my token and remove it
lmao
obtuse gale
Okay
static zealot
hmm so I've set the ssh key up in github settings but whenever I try to clone using git clone it asks for my password again
static zealot
I assume I have to do something locally as well?
boreal needle
change the remote to ssh from http
prisma wave
hmm so I've set the ssh key up in github settings but whenever I try to clone us...
You have to use a different remote URL
Yeah
boreal needle
https://gh/a/b to git@github.com:a/b.git
static zealot
worked. ty ty ty
boreal needle
can we just talk about how crystalore.org is empty
tacit cave
hello
i wanna ask something
that's simple
does line actually impact your performance?
like
forest pecan
?
quiet depot
line count do you mean?
forest pecan
Uh no
quiet depot
no
tacit cave
hold up
forest pecan
you can type a bunch of comments
forest pecan
you know, you can crash a server in one line of code
like one plugin
one line of code
it doesnt matter
quiet depot
your whole system could be wiped in one line of code
forest pecan
Yep
tacit cave
your whole system could be wiped in one line of code
uhm
my friend told me to cut off lines
quiet depot
let's be respectful pulse
oak coyote
We can’t really say anything without seeing it
forest pecan
let's be respectful pulse
🥲 ok
boreal needle
reducing lines sometimes makes sense
old wyvern
my friend told me to cut off lines
What specifically did they say?
oak coyote
He may be right but for unexplained reasons
boreal needle
if your code is repeated or inefficient then do it
forest pecan
true
ocean quartz
Reducing unnecessary lines
But lines in general means nothing
forest pecan
well yea ig fixing dry code does trim off lines
oak coyote
It is still good
old wyvern
Simplifying code is always better, but not for performance, but rather for readability
tacit cave
What specifically did they say?
shorter line
oak coyote
Just might not help performance
old wyvern
shorter line
Did he say it was for "performance"?
tacit cave
Did he say it was for "performance"?
ya
oak coyote
Then that’s likely the reason
compact perchBOT
tacit cave
if (response.statusCode === 204) return true;
else return false;```before and after
tacit cave
if (response.statusCode === 204)
return true;
else
return false;```js?
tacit cave
just a simple code
boreal needle
they are equivalent
oak coyote
You have to realise he may have lied to make you write better
tacit cave
yeah a javascript
boreal needle
just USE BRACES REEEEE
forest pecan
the whole conditional is unnecessary
prisma wave
return response.statusCode === 204 😌
forest pecan
lmao
boreal needle
return response.statusCode === 204;
old wyvern
`return response.statusCode === 204` 😌
😌
forest pecan
`return response.statusCode === 204;`
lol
boreal needle
shut
tacit cave
it's a different function
prisma wave
Imagine having a return statement
oak coyote
`return response.statusCode === 204;`
Indeed
boreal needle
im on mobile
old wyvern
Imagine having a return statement
ikr
prisma wave
Disgusting
tacit cave
export default async function(request: Got, internalID: number): Promise<boolean> {
try {
const response = await request.post("/servers/" + internalID + "/reinstall");
if (response.statusCode === 204)
return true;
else
return false;
// IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE PERFORMANCE!!!, MORE BEAUTY!!
} catch (e) {
throw new CheckError(e);
}
}```a :-
b.
on top
prisma wave
😌
forest pecan
:--
oak coyote
@tacit cave he is right to make you reduce it, less for performance, but he likely stated that to make you do it
oak coyote
As if I tell you this will improve performance you are more likely to do it than if I don’t
prisma wave
You know what else is Js but better
boreal needle
wasm?
forest pecan
not haskell
prisma wave
Elm 😌
forest pecan
are you going to convert people to Elm now?
tacit cave
<@325258033523458049> he is right to make you reduce it, less for performance, b...
wdym?
im learning ts since like 5 days ago
boreal needle
it can sometimes make your code more readable
oak coyote
Yes so he is trying to help you
tacit cave
well he's experienced for 1 year
old wyvern
What was your old snippet?
oak coyote
He is likely stating for “performance” reasons so you actually do it
old wyvern
The one before you applied his suggested changes
tacit cave
He is likely stating for “performance” reasons so you actually do it
ah kay
quiet depot
so now that you know the truth
tacit cave
i wanted to split the line to make it more explicit
quiet depot
are you still going to do it?
old wyvern
split the line?
oak coyote
If else
oak coyote
split the line?
I believe ^
old wyvern
Im not sure I understand what hes refferring to still? like inline if-else?
oak coyote
Some people like to keep it readable to them
As they don’t realise they mean the same thing
tacit cave
split the line?
ya
old wyvern
No Im asking what you meant by that abhi
old wyvern
What?
tacit cave
```ts
export default async function(request: Got, internalID: number): Promise<b...
like this
hot hull
```ts
export default async function(request: Got, internalID: number): Promise<b...
that is hideous
old wyvern
Ah, so you had that, and your friend asked you to just return response.statusCode === 204, ok
tacit cave
Ah, so you had that, and your friend asked you to just return `response.statusCo...
no, it's an api
i mean a wrapper
it's checking if the server is sucessfuly suspended or not
that's why the value is boolean
oak coyote
He doesn’t get what we are saying 🤦♂️
old wyvern
response.statusCode === 204 is the same value as what you're explicitly returning with the if-else
oak coyote
You know the result of response.statusCode === 204 is a boolean
^ so why are you creating the boolean twice essentially is the point
hot hull
just return that eee
tacit cave
You know the result of response.statusCode === 204 is a boolean
oh yea
i forgot about dat
gosh dang it
oak coyote
Hopefully you get what we are trying to say, trust me I know how annoying devs can be at explaining as they use a lot of assumptions
tacit cave
i didn't realize im so sorry xd
oak coyote
It’s fine
We all make mistakes dw just ask these lot about their first project
For 5 days this is more advanced than I expected
As API’s can be very odd sometimes
tacit cave
For 5 days this is more advanced than I expected
ya this isn't my first programming language
i used to be code java, but about 3 months i dont dev anymore
and trying to learn typescript
oak coyote
Ahh so you already have the most important part that is the problem solving
I believe most people hear know java and for a couple years now
I’ve coded for about 2 years now in java and others are similar or more
tacit cave
im not really good at english too, sometimes im kinda confused from someone who talking to m
tacit cave
I’ve coded for about 2 years now in java and others are similar or more
im about 6 months maybe
oak coyote
You seem to be doing fine you understood me so that’s all you need
tacit cave
You seem to be doing fine you understood me so that’s all you need
alr, thanks for the understanding too
oak coyote
Just remember to know what you are returning with a method as once it becomes a boolean you could do an if else statement or just return that if that’s what you need
And gl with your project seems you are being taught by someone good enough to help you
So I’d suggest trusting them and come here if you want to get a second opinion / a different explanation
distant sun
What would be close to mysql (as in features) or other databases but run on a local file? H2db thing?
tacit cave
So I’d suggest trusting them and come here if you want to get a second opinion /...
i would trust them, because he's my closest friend
i just wondered
onyx loom
probably gaby, idk
distant sun
Smh Kali
quiet depot
yes
distant sun
Yes to his question or mine?
hot hull
Why would you want that in the first place is the real question
quiet depot
I think h2 is considered flatfile
distant sun
🤷 will probably use mysql
hot hull
maria
quiet depot
what type of data r u storing
hot hull
Thank you gradle.
distant sun
what type of data r u storing
- Guild data - id, members, level, progress etc
- Player statistics and milestones
quiet depot
ah okie
distant sun
Is maria installed, pig?
steel heart
Redis is pog
distant sun
https://github.com/iGabyTM/GUIHelper/commits/master after multiple tries I finally got the Verified thing xd
static zealot
😮
obtuse gale
🥳
static zealot
is it not just setting the user name and email in git config?
obtuse gale
no
ocean quartz
<https://github.com/iGabyTM/GUIHelper/commits/master> after multiple tries I fin...
2 clicks with GitKraken smh
obtuse gale
you need to sign the commit with a pgp key
jovial warren
Imagine not using SSH keys smh
obtuse gale
lol blitz did you change the remote uri?
obtuse gale
git remote -v
distant sun
2 clicks with GitKraken smh
🙂
jovial warren
Yeah change the remote URI
static zealot
no it is still https
static zealot
well how the hell am I supposed to know that?
jovial warren
git@github.com:User/Repo
distant sun
btw the password is actually a token iirc
static zealot
oh well I Missread that then
static zealot
yeah if you have the fucking paid version ...
obtuse gale
Can someone help me by telling me what’s wrong with this
[Service] Investors
[Request] Looking for people who help me pay for my server. You get the percentage of donations to the server based off of how much you help pay.
[Budget] 30-120$
ocean quartz
I have the free version and I have no issues with it
static zealot
**[Service]** Investors
**[Request]** Looking for people who help me pay for my...
probably doesn't like the bold
static zealot
I have the free version and I have no issues with it
well have you tried private repos? xD
ocean quartz
I don't use private repos
static zealot
well I do
obtuse gale
Thanks @static zealot
onyx loom
just make them public blitz 
ocean quartz
1 - Make it public
2 - Commit
3 - Make it private again
4 - ???
5 - Profit
obtuse gale
lol
jovial warren
1 - Make it public
2 - Commit
3 - Make it private again
4 - ???
5 - Profit
What's the reference of those last two? I've seen those 2 in a list before
quiet depot
old wyvern
South Park Underpants Gnomes' Plan wut xD
quiet depot
16th of december, 1998
onyx loom
KNOW your PROFIT
quiet depot
very old meme
obtuse gale
lol
old wyvern
Is this even a valid paid-request? #837974312451440661 message
static zealot
pretty sure it ain't
gusty glen
@obtuse gale how about the benchs?
obtuse gale
I’m making a plugin called CasinosPlus with casino games such as Poker, BlackJack, Slots, Roulette, and war?
Send me some other game ideas please
Also I’m making a plugin called MiniGamesPlus (10$) it has spleef, splegg, custom events, king of the hill, tnt run, build wars, kit pvp, and other minigames any ideas of what kind of features it should have
Also I feel like those are basic names I want something original any ideas?
pastel imp
JSON vs TOML vs YAML vs SQL(???) Who wins?
winter iron
json + sql = jsql
pastel imp
Wth is that lul
pastel imp
Mind explaining why?
winter iron
cause i like them
json is easy to work with over web
sql is good to store data in tables
nice
pastel imp
As said, lets take a homes plugin as an example
obtuse gale
<@456226577798135808> how about the benchs?
shut
pastel imp
I will store name, icon, location (with yaw and pitch) and thats all
winter iron
whats icon
pastel imp
The item showcasing the home in a gui
winter iron
use a database
sql
potentially having 100's of yaml files is the worst thing ive heard of
even tho i once did it and it was aids af
pastel imp
Some plugins do it
winter iron
ik, its just a bad idea imo
pastel imp
And seems like no one ever complained lol
winter iron
I mean people that use the plugin probs dont care
since they have no real reason to touch the data anyways
just from a performance standpoint to i feel like a database would be better
pastel imp
I suppose in thoss cases I can give the server owner the choice
winter iron
yaml is more for configuration
obtuse gale
and with yaml there's a high chance if they touch the files manually they will fuck up the formatting
winter iron
same with json
pastel imp
By that I mean give server owners the choice in the config of using either yml, json or sql or whatever
obtuse gale
not really
obtuse gale
json is more solid IMO
so to speak
it is not as flexible
and it doesn't depend on stupid indentation either
pastel imp
I will just give the owner the option to choose lmao
pastel imp
I suppose
lunar cypress
remember that you can parse json with a yaml parser
pastel imp
But I will have to do some research since I already saw some people complaining about sql
pastel imp
remember that you can parse json with a yaml parser
Wdym
pastel imp
Good to know
obtuse gale
I literally write my plugin.yml's in json first, then rename to .yml lmao
pastel imp
I will just give multiple choices and recommend one xd
static zealot
yaml is a superset of json
I actually didn't know this
winter iron
yaml is ez tho
static zealot
and yeah yaml can burn. I'm so tired of it
obtuse gale
GRRRR
pastel imp
I am planning on adding SQL, JSON and MySql (maybe yaml)
obtuse gale
GRRRRRR
static zealot
yaml is ez tho
for you bcz you understand it. but if you were to spend like 2 weeks in #general-plugins you would see why I am thinking of using the suislide
lunar cypress
SQL and MySql
doesn't make a whole lot of sense
winter iron
for you bcz you understand it. but if you were to spend like 2 weeks in <#164280...
I dont ever want to look in there
I did once
and i was baffled
gusty glen
@obtuse gale but srsly, what are the results?
pastel imp
> SQL and MySql
doesn't make a whole lot of sense
SQL != MySql (or am I wrong?)
winter iron
sql is the language, mysql is the engine that runs sql
lunar cypress
MySQL runs a flavour of sql, but yeah
pastel imp
When I say sql I mean sql flatfiles lul
lunar cypress
then you probably mean sqlite?
jovial warren
every time I see MySQL now, I swear, it reminds me of https://twitter.com/dermayank/status/1391035064255803393
Twitter
static zealot
ffs. I saw this before and I didn't get it. Now I get it and its so fucking bad
onyx loom
hehe
pastel imp
so should SQLite still be my first choice?
static zealot
if you don't need corss server support then yeah most likely
winter iron
yeah sqlite nice
hot hull
What are we in 1999 ?
winter iron
you can also use H2
hot hull
Just use a database normally?
pastel imp
database = ?
hot hull
Doesn't matter if you don't need cross server support
obtuse gale
^
pastel imp
I mean if we take a homes plugin as an example, doesn't rlly need cross server support at all
onyx loom
frosty always with the strong opinions
pastel imp
telling me to use "a database normally" doesn't rlly help me that much
to understand what exactly you actually mean lmao
me smoll brain
hot hull
Well can't help you with that
winter iron
use sqlite
pastel imp
^^ done
winter iron
for ur application its fine
hot hull
No
pastel imp
H2?
onyx loom
yaml 🤡
winter iron
just another local database type thing
hot hull
hocon
pastel imp
MongoDB? 🤡
winter iron
could use mongo
pastel imp
is mongo even something plug n play?
hot hull
doubt you'll ever need mongo for a spigot plugin
pastel imp
;-;
pastel imp
doubt you'll ever need mongo for a spigot plugin
I mean.. good point.
obtuse gale
doubt you'll ever need mongo for a spigot plugin
you'd be surprised by the amount of people I've seen that use mongo
for a minecraft server
pastel imp
^^ true
hot hull
Well yea, "need", not "want"
pastel imp
have seen many
hot hull
Can't go wrong with overkill
obtuse gale
and there's nothing wrong with it either
hot hull
doubt
pastel imp
technically having many choices is good for the user, it gives them choice.
static zealot
sublime really likes messing with me. ffs
hot hull
They shouldn't be given a choice
pastel imp
(welp besides giving them the option to choose yaml, that's a scrap)
hot hull
Fuck the user, they're stupid anyways
hot hull
The more choice you give them, the more they're able to fuck up
winter iron
fuck em
pastel imp
Fuck the user, they're stupid anyways
ever heard that thingy where "customer is always right?"
winter iron
no
half harness
Fuck the user, they're stupid anyways
lol
hot hull
No
winter iron
listen
winter iron
if they dont need to touch the data then you dont need 14 different implementatons
half harness
server owners can't read 🥲
winter iron
just use sqlite or H2 and move on
pastel imp
ok bye.
winter iron
bye
pastel imp
actually no
winter iron
👋
winter iron
ok i am
pastel imp
oof then bye
half harness
console: Required dependency: ProtocolLib
first line of plugin page in bold and red: Requires ProtocolLib
server owner: hEllPPppPP tHe pLuGin dOEsN'T wOrK aNd IdK wHy
ocean quartz
The average server owner has peanut brain
static zealot
Someone that uses SublimeText please help. I've went to
Preferences -> Settings and have set tab_size option to 2 as you can see here:
yet it still puts 4 spaces
and it actually doesn't translate to spaces
is just a tab
pastel imp
how does an SQLite file even look?
static zealot
tried restarting sublime, same thing
pastel imp
now I am curious
static zealot
the option is saved there tho
pastel imp
time to search
prisma wave
how does an SQLite file even look?
Binary
pastel imp
wait fr?
prisma wave
wat
pale shell
?
quiet depot
lol
pale shell
a verif bot
pale shell
yes
slow quiver
rip kashike
now someone has to put me back together! 🪡
half harness
now someone has to put me back together! 🪡
b-but, you're resting, you don't want to in pieces anymore?
pale shell
discord
i'm bored of asking people "are you using the free version or the premium version"
slow quiver
i'm bored of asking people "are you using the free version or the premium versio...
responses with "yes" and watches the fun
pastel imp
I think spigot even has an api for such things
static zealot
i'm bored of asking people "are you using the free version or the premium versio...
just steal Barry
smh
pale shell
barry doesn't do the check right
old wyvern
I dont think spigot has an api for that, you'll still need to manually verify with a bot I think
pale shell
oh wait it does
old wyvern
Why not just use a role in that case?
pastel imp
welp I mean, an api to use with the bot
old wyvern
oh wait it does
Dont think so
onyx loom
spiget
pastel imp
only thing I saw was you linking your spigot account with the bot
and it syncs the plugins you bought
pale shell
what can spiget get me
onyx loom
its what barry uses
old wyvern
Barry doesnt auto check anymore right?
static zealot
yeah it doesn't have anything for buyer list then
it does auto check but the database is updated manually
pastel imp
wait since when do you exist @ruby crater?
static zealot
so you can check who they are on spigot but can't check their purchased resources
quiet depot
wait since when do you exist <@!789358780646162473>?
a little while
pastel imp
a little while
ye I may be blind
static zealot
there used to be the mvdw spigot buyercheck resource but I think its broken bcz of clodufare or something like that
pastel imp
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/how-to-sqlite.56847/ would this be a good place to get some knowledge of sqlite? (never rlly used it)
lunar cypress
no this is bad
lunar cypress
do you know any other relational database?
and by that I mean, know how to use them properly
lunar cypress
ok, so yaml isn't a relational database
lunar cypress
start here
this is for MySQL/MariaDB but it's almost the exact same for SQLite
because you use the JDBC API for both
pastel imp
any way to implement it in gradle btw?
lunar cypress
yes
pastel imp
cant find anything in the github
lunar cypress
maven and gradle use the same repositories
old wyvern
yes
lunar cypress
right
pastel imp
and I suppose we are implementing it into our code
or not?
uh
wait
ok it is
You always want to use async requests on a production system what does it mean with "production system"?
lunar cypress
in the real world
another way to put it is you only want to use synchronous requests when testing your code/before releasing
This is not always 100% true, but for Spigot plugins it's a good rule
lunar cypress
invalidate caches and restart
obtuse gale
IntelliJ bad
hot hull
Indeed
pastel imp
for godsake
I will legit delete it
.-.
1.16.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:20210515.064541-78) why is it even adding those numbers at the back wtf?
bruh ok using 1.16.4 seems to have worked lmao
ocean quartz
On the gradle panel right click the project and do this
pastel imp
ty worked out
old wyvern
@quiet depot https://youtu.be/oK_XtfXPkqw?t=556
obtuse gale
:o
pastel imp
uh me trying to figure out how exactly I will use SQLite to store homes be like: uhm... so.. I do this but then this is a duplicate? Maybe create a table for each user? uhm...
stuck harbor
why SQLite tho
im personally a mariadb pleb
i use firebase when im going full google tho
old wyvern
> Added new annotation: `@UnknownNullability`.
Wha
new annotation for jb-annotations?
with kotlin support?
for like platform types ig?
obtuse gale
new annotation for jb-annotations?
yea
they released 21.0.0
Added new annotation:
@UnknownNullability.
Proper JPMS module.
that's literally all the release notes say lol
old wyvern
ah
I wonder what the point of that annotation even is
Shouldnt something of UnknownNullability be Nullable instead?
as in, it could be null
obtuse gale
An element annotated with Nullable claims
nullvalue is perfectly valid to return (for methods), pass to (parameters) or hold in (local variables and fields)
By convention, this annotation applied only when the value should always be checked against
nullbecause the developer could do nothing to prevent null from happening
old wyvern
Ok so 1 says null is fine, and other that null may happen but isnt fine if it does
obtuse gale
> An element annotated with Nullable claims `null` value is perfectly *valid* to...
that's for @Nullable
old wyvern
oh both of those quotes are from Nullable?
obtuse gale
yeah different paragraphs lol
For @UnknownNullability:
It's mainly useful at method return types to mark methods that may occasionally return
nullbut in many cases, user knows that in this particular code pathnullis not possible, so producing a warning would be annoying.
obtuse gale
I mean it's as if you didn't annotate it at all
old wyvern
yea
obtuse gale
Something like Map#get can return null but it's not annotated as nullable either
old wyvern
thatd be just because Map is from the jdk, nullable is from jb-annotation which isnt used in it
Kotlin's map get provides nullable return values I think?
gusty glen
> Added new annotation: `@UnknownNullability`.
I hate so much that annotation
obtuse gale
thatd be just because Map is from the jdk, nullable is from jb-annotation which ...
I mean, it was an example
old wyvern
oh ok
obtuse gale
For something like Map#get, being annotated as nullable your IDE would be 50% yellow lol
old wyvern
lol
obtuse gale
It gets to the point it's annoying even if you are certain it isn't null
old wyvern
Unless you use the getOrPut or similar methods
gusty glen
I still don't know if MH are fasten than normal reflection @emilyy, just saying
old wyvern
They are secretx
obtuse gale
Well... I ran some (super rudimentary, 100% unreliable lol) JMH benchmarks
I say unreliable because it was on one OS, on one hardware, on one JRE version, made by one JVM vendor etc
old wyvern
What were the results?
forest pecan
For something like Map#get, being annotated as nullable your IDE would be 50% ye...
now specify @PercentNullability
specify a percent
chance that it will be null
based on average cases
old wyvern
now specify @PercentNullability
forest pecan
🤡
old wyvern
@midnight steppecentNullability(99.999)
obtuse gale
lmao
forest pecan
LMAO
gusty glen
that's just @Nullable on disguise
gusty glen
hence why kt is better, all the native methods / extension functions let you choose between getOrNull or get(OrThrow)
prisma wave
YEAH
obtuse gale
What were the results?
I'm not home rn but the results were something like reflection lookup was about x5~x7 faster ("lookup", with known method names and signatures ofc) than MH, invocation was about the same ops/s, both for private and public methods
Unless I'm not understanding the ops/s measurement, reflection lookups were much faster
but again this is faaaaaaaaar from a proper benchmark
half harness
sad day for mr per
funny how no one has questioned/responded/reacted to any of these lol
afaik
old wyvern
lookups shouldnt show improvements with method handles, I think, not sure if its worse tho. but its supposed to be faster at invoking
gusty glen
with reflections lookup you mean "class.getMethod"?
old wyvern
funny how no one has questioned/responded/reacted to any of these lol
What?
obtuse gale
getDeclaredMethod yes
half harness
What?
many ppl bc have been ponged from annotations, and no one was like, why did i get pinged 
im surprised
old wyvern
ok?
half harness
ok
old wyvern
funny how no one has questioned/responded/reacted to any of these lol
ah wait nvm, that took a while. I read this wrong
obtuse gale
Bukkit was a pioneer 😌
old wyvern
oh god
obtuse gale
Also the annotation is specifically in the java8 module?
jovial warren
Bukkit was a *pioneer* 😌
I believe that is a Paper thing
to clarify some places where strict nullability annotations can't really be applied
or perhaps shouldn't be applied
obtuse gale
hm idk, paper puts new classes under io.papermc or com.destroystokyo tho
seems to be at least on spigot https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/UndefinedNullability.html
I couldn't care less about Bukkit itself lmao
actually no, I take that back
Spigot adds so little API
Bukkit is where everything that's relevant is at
pastel imp
why SQLite tho
fuck no not again, we already discussed those stuff, SQLite is fine lmao
static zealot
am I a monster for installing steam and cs:go on kde neon?
obtuse gale
fabric smh
static zealot
? Looks alr to me
obtuse gale
yes, that's how you call a constructor lol
dawn hinge
Smh blitz
static zealot
ffs I'll just put /s in every message now bcz no one gets sarcasm around here
half harness
lol
static zealot
beautiful
obtuse gale
ayy groovy
static zealot
seems fine to me /s
get it now?
its sarcasm. haha
funny
haha
ha
ha
ha
😭
ocean quartz
*ayy groovy*
@onyx loom
steel heart
Just cast it 
obtuse gale
to Object :^)