dev-general

[forest pecan]

you should name it Kock

[jovial warren]

org.halogenpowered.astatine.api is way too long

[static zealot]

If you really are changing then I'd say Software is better

[old wyvern]

Wait a minute

did you actaully mean "HalogenPowered"? I thought you were going to replace that with an actual halogen

[half harness]

5+ syllables 🤢

[jovial warren]

yes I did

[old wyvern]

🤦‍♂️

[jovial warren]

that's what I want for the org

then I can use halogens as names for the projects

[forest pecan]

do you live around the central us?

cause for me it sounds like 5

but it may depend

[onyx loom]

what happens when u run out of halogens

[old wyvern]

MethanePowered™️

[half harness]

o

[jovial warren]

like fluorine, chlorine, bromine, iodine, astatine and tennessine

[jovial warren]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[old wyvern]

ew

[forest pecan]

CocainePowered

[jovial warren]

doubt I'll run out of halogens tbh

[forest pecan]

powered by cocaine

[old wyvern]

[jovial warren]

and some of those halogens actually have meanings

[old wyvern]

Like?

[onyx loom]

fluorine = brush ur teeth

[old wyvern]

xD

[onyx loom]

theres a meaning

[jovial warren]

https://i.imgur.com/3totJXW.png here's a few I got from Purpur

[old wyvern]

FClBrIAtTs

[forest pecan]

"Bromine"

lmao

its a super toxic chemical

[old wyvern]

lmao

[steel heart]

pulse

[forest pecan]

ye

[onyx loom]

ngl, im not sure about this one chief

[jovial warren]

Bromine isn't actually that toxic

[steel heart]

which classes are consumers suppose to use btw

[jovial warren]

Kaliber gimme a better name then

[onyx loom]

Einsteinium 😌

[old wyvern]

Hrypton

[jovial warren]

and this is why I don't ask HelpChat for names

[half harness]

🥲

[jovial warren]

Yugi no

[forest pecan]

I would say API probably

[old wyvern]

I gave a serious suggestion

[jovial warren]

just no

[old wyvern]

Viltrum

[steel heart]

ok

[forest pecan]

cause they shouldnt touch the NMS impl

right

[half harness]

I KNOW

Krypt19375

[forest pecan]

they should only touch the api code

[jovial warren]

not bad, but it seems a bit... idk

and no one really knows what it means

[old wyvern]

https://imagecomics.fandom.com/wiki/Viltrum

[forest pecan]

dont add numbers in your repo name

lmao

[old wyvern]

Basically "Evil" Krypton

or "Dark"

idk

[static zealot]

what the hell was the command to search for something in konsole?

[jovial warren]

man, why does naming always have to be this hard

[old wyvern]

dkim13

[static zealot]

I Know for powershell it is where

[old wyvern]

24654687

[static zealot]

and I can't remember it for konsole

[forest pecan]

lmao

[old wyvern]

find?

[static zealot]

nah it was something with w

wait does find work as well?

[old wyvern]

yea?

[static zealot]

hmm I'm looking for bash

location

find doesn't find it

[jovial warren]

yeah dw, I'm not that stupid

[static zealot]

I want it to search everywhere not just current location

[half harness]

ok

[static zealot]

oh its

which

that's so unmemorable

[lunar cypress]

whereis also works

[static zealot]

oh that's good to know. ty

like I've needed which like 6 times now and every time I had to go look for it

bcz I can't remember that word for some reason xD

[winter iron]

How can i make a permission that is not affected by the * wildcard

so i want permission.1 to be explicitly set

[half harness]

iirc it depends on the permission manager, so for ex luckperms supports *

i may be wrong tho :p

maybe luckperms api has something in it 🤷

[jovial warren]

@ocean quartz asked Yugi this and he told me to ask you, so here it goes: getting https://paste.helpch.at/evihotadof.cs when trying to download Brigadier, despite me having the correct configuration in the repositories (namely, maven("https://libraries.minecraft.net")), any ideas what might be going on there?

[tranquil crane]

Krypton2ElectricBoogaloo, new name for you

[jovial warren]

[forest pecan]

name it "BetterKrypton"

[jovial warren]

Krypton++

[forest pecan]

lmao

[old wyvern]

KKK

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/bc0Qh.gif

[ocean quartz]

Does that only happen to that one?

[old wyvern]

That was an issue with the path creator matt, nvm

[forest pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[static zealot]

they fix it

finally

windows doesn't seem to crash everything anymore

[half harness]

😮 i just realized piggy left dkim den

he has committed a GREAT SIN

against the COMMUNITY

[onyx loom]

i do not blame him

[old wyvern]

Why is that discord full of nsfw stuff

lol

[onyx loom]

blame pulse

horny person

[lunar cypress]

weird

[static zealot]

wtf? I can't upload PNGs from ubuntu for some reason

[old wyvern]

huh?

[forest pecan]

n p

[old wyvern]

oh wait, you switched back to ubuntu?

[static zealot]

well kde neon

whatever

xD

[old wyvern]

oh

ok

[forest pecan]

wow

so bad

smh

[old wyvern]

Maybe too large?

[onyx loom]

linux bad

[old wyvern]

Whats the discord limit?

[static zealot]

oh might be

its a png

[old wyvern]

9mb?

[static zealot]

but like ... its the smiling fake

[onyx loom]

8mb

[static zealot]

face*

with 3 tears

[old wyvern]

ah

[jovial warren]

ladies and gentlemen, we did it

[old wyvern]

check the size ig?

[static zealot]

yeah not that

[forest pecan]

i like how a single image can be bigger than spring framework * 4

[onyx loom]

nitro is either 50/100mb depending on server boost tier iirc

[old wyvern]

[static zealot]

oh it finally starts?

lmk when its on ci

[old wyvern]

spring good? 😳

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/uhfw.gif

Spring = ~30MB

[forest pecan]

Yeah the biggest possible image is 140 gigabytes

[old wyvern]

Unless you SLIMJAR it!!

[static zealot]

oh apparently discord can't access some folders

[onyx loom]

i had to check if the video was playing, thats how long it took to load the libraries. krypton bad kotlin bad

[static zealot]

or something like that

well fuck

[half harness]

u should put some kind of progress message

so that ppl dont think its ded especially for potatoes

[forest pecan]

the biggest png image is 141 gigabytes

lol

[onyx loom]

🌚

i wanna know what that image is

can u post it here pls

[static zealot]

well, /home/blitz/ doesn't work, /home/blitz/documents doesn't work

fuck

[half harness]

C:\Users\Blitz does

😏

[static zealot]

maybe photos

that would make more sense

there we go

@boreal needle found it

if you need it

[boreal needle]

?

[old wyvern]

Is there any case where a normal file system would be FAT32 or something?

[boreal needle]

oh that :D

thanks

[static zealot]

https://discordapp.com/channels/164280494874165248/695431668944732270/844950328939249705

this

yeah

xD

I've tried to cat the png ... lmao

[onyx loom]

playstations use fat32 yugi

idk

[static zealot]

how do you copy files to clipboard from terminal? is that even possible?

I mean PNGs

[old wyvern]

I meant on a PC, I dont think playstations normally use Java 🌚

[onyx loom]

🌚

[boreal needle]

xclip can do it

[onyx loom]

yea idk what ur question was tailored for

[boreal needle]

i cant remember how

[static zealot]

yeah I thought maybe there's a package coming by default

with kde neon

[old wyvern]

xclip -selection clipboard -i <file>

[static zealot]

I'm starting to actually enjoy kde neon

and linux in general

[old wyvern]

Awesome

[static zealot]

tho

there's a lot of commands

[boreal needle]

yeah its really great once you learn how to use it

[static zealot]

and I have a very very bad memory

[boreal needle]

it just becomes normal after a while

you'll get them

as long as you have like lolcat and cowsay you have everything you need

[static zealot]

I've got no idea what those are lmao

[boreal needle]

lolcat is like cat but rainbow

[static zealot]

oh Ic

why tho?

[onyx loom]

all u need in life is ghc 😌

[boreal needle]

and cowsay does exactly what it says on the tin

[old wyvern]

😌

[old wyvern]

Moo

?

Move?

[boreal needle]

lucy@lucy-laptop ~ $ cowsay "hello"
 _______ 
< hello >
 ------- 
        \   ^__^
         \  (oo)\_______
            (__)\       )\/\
                ||----w |
                ||     ||

[old wyvern]

oh

xD

well

[onyx loom]

lmao

[static zealot]

amazing stuff

[boreal needle]

it starts getting really powerful when you pipe cowsay into lolcat

[static zealot]

well I finally am starting to use the default directories as they were intended lmao.

[boreal needle]

are you using cowsay with lolcat tho

[static zealot]

as in Documents for projects and stuff, pictures for photos etc.

before, everything was on desktop xD

[boreal needle]

i dont even have a desktop

[static zealot]

well I have one but its empty

I stole the /Documents/GItHub thing from piggy

bcz I Made a whole directory at first for Projects

[boreal needle]

documents/github?

i just have ~/src

[static zealot]

well brb. restart needed

[timber oak]

What is the difference between setting motd and server icon in a plugin and doing it in server.properties + server-icon.png file in the folder?

Doesn't it do the exact same?

[obtuse gale]

Effectively, yes

[timber oak]

So it's just because it's possible to change without accessing the server folder?

[obtuse gale]

Sure I guess

You just do it dynamically with the API instead of once in the properties

[forest pecan]

F

[prisma wave]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[static zealot]

wtf is this crap?

[half harness]

idk

[static zealot]

well Ik. and its annoying af

[cinder flare]

1627 messages just to find Kali agreeing with me

[static zealot]

@quiet depot your assistance is required once again xD. When I open .yml files using dolphin remote connection thing, it just changes the contents to something like that until I stop my server or whatever application is reading from it and then I can actually edit it.

[cinder flare]

Are you using vim

[static zealot]

no. Dolphin

[cinder flare]

Wtf is that

[static zealot]

and Sublime to open it

[cinder flare]

Oh is it ftp

[static zealot]

KDE Neon's default directory manager or whatever its called

[cinder flare]

Oh

[static zealot]

but I can use it for sftp connections as well

[cinder flare]

Oh now that's cool

[static zealot]

yes

I know

if only it wouldn't do that xD

[cinder flare]

Have you tried just sshing and using nano

Just to see if it works there

[static zealot]

also I forgot to mention @quiet depot that I Did select UTF-8 encryption when I made the network folder.

[forest pecan]

watch your mouth bud

[prisma wave]

SHUT IT

[forest pecan]

:D

[cinder flare]

👀

[static zealot]

well it works in winscp (windows) or filezila. Its just when I use dolphin that it happens.

[cinder flare]

Oh I see. That is interesting

I haven't used dolphin before but good luck, cause if it works that'd be sick af

[static zealot]

well most things works I just can't edit yml files I guess. I haven't tried json or other text files yet

oh yeah its just Sublime's fault

if I do it with KWriter it works

Ic

well shit

[prisma wave]

what

[cinder flare]

Sublime poo poo

[ocean quartz]

It do be like that sometimes

[ocean quartz]

VS Code

[cinder flare]

Looks like you want T

[static zealot]

[prisma wave]

i want death

[cinder flare]

Honestly same

[static zealot]

LibreOffice Writer

lmao

[cinder flare]

The only reason I got out of bed just a bit ago was to get my Amazon package

Then I got right back into bed

[gusty glen]

try to <T : Any>

[prisma wave]

nah it's good i fixed it now

[cinder flare]

What was it?

[prisma wave]

was probably just a bug caused by something else not compiling

[cinder flare]

Ah makes sense

[static zealot]

Well this sucks... Everything in my config now is just 0000 bytes

[sweet cipher]

That means it takes up no space, good job

Now we don't need to download ram

[static zealot]

well that means everything in it is gone

that's what it means xD

[sweet cipher]

Eh side effects don't matter

It's the end product that is important

[ocean quartz]

Gotta love TS 🥲

[forest pecan]

has anyone actually ever tried the autocomplete extensions

like the ones shown in ads

are they even good lmao

[ocean quartz]

I use Codota, it's pretty nice

[forest pecan]

that was the ad i was referring to

Ah

[ocean quartz]

Ayyy this actually worked after so long!

now back to styling

[distant sun]

Amazing noob ❤️ @ocean quartz

[timber oak]

How can I make a for loop or something than runs every tick or so. Like it goes through the loop every x amount of ticks

If that makes sense

[distant sun]

Schedule a task?

[ocean quartz]

Ty noob ❤️

[half harness]

d;spigot bukkitscheduler#runtasktimer

[ruby crater]

org.bukkit.scheduler.BukkitScheduler#runTaskTimer

@NotNull
BukkitTask runTaskTimer(@NotNull Plugin plugin, @NotNull Runnable task, long delay, long period)
throws IllegalArgumentException, IllegalArgumentException```

Description:

Returns a task that will repeatedly run until cancelled, starting after the specified number of server ticks.

Returns:

a BukkitTask that contains the id number

Parameters:

period - the ticks to wait between runs
task - the task to be run
delay - the ticks to wait before running the task
plugin - the reference to the plugin scheduling task

Throws:

IllegalArgumentException - if plugin is null
IllegalArgumentException - if task is null

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[half harness]

smh

[timber oak]

Oh yeah wth, it's just standard runnables

[forest pecan]

sham

[timber oak]

I'm just too tired

Well standard bukkit runnables

[gusty glen]

nice

[half harness]

well

you see

you got the import package wrong

it's not intellij's fault 😉

[forest pecan]

lol

[gusty glen]

oh u r actually right

[half harness]

[gusty glen]

my config lib still on experimental phase, don't judge me 🥲

[half harness]

use intellij auto import

[gusty glen]

last time I had it on, i couldn't import the right thing cause intellij just java.util.* the imports and that contained a class with the same name

at least with manual imports intellij asks for the correct class

[half harness]

why does 1.16 take 1 minute to start, while 1.8 takes like 15 seconds

[gusty glen]

server? my server doesn't take 1 min to start

[forest pecan]

uh.. because your enviornment is shit

[onyx loom]

hmmm, why does more features cause a longer startup?

[forest pecan]

cause it takes for me only 10 seconds

lol

[half harness]

but 40 extra seconds is too much

[onyx loom]

bad pc

[forest pecan]

^

[half harness]

but

1.8

[forest pecan]

ur pc is shit dkim

[half harness]

takes 15 seconds

[forest pecan]

no buts

[half harness]

explain that

[forest pecan]

i can load 1.16 in 3 seconds without any plugins

[static zealot]

Switch to ubuntu dkim. Smh

[forest pecan]

with plugins? maybe 10 at max

[half harness]

not while seeing u getting 1000 issues 🥲

[onyx loom]

[00:09:52 INFO]: Done (4.726s)! For help, type "help" this is how bad ur pc is dkim
1.16 server

[forest pecan]

exactly

lmao

[static zealot]

Lmao

[onyx loom]

13 plugins

[half harness]

now try a 1.8 server

[static zealot]

Imagine having a good pc

[forest pecan]

btw, newer paper servers have async chunk loading

you cant beat that

lmao

[gusty glen]

paper 1.16.5: [20:10:29 INFO]: Done (10.017s)! For help, type "help"

[static zealot]

Smh.. gn

[half harness]

gn

[onyx loom]

[00:10:47 INFO]: Done (2.824s)! For help, type "help" or "?" 10 plugins

[half harness]

wow

fast

[onyx loom]

i got 2 errors while starting up 1.8 🥲

not even plugins fault

[forest pecan]

its literaly less than 2 seconds

dkim its literally ur own pc lmao

[half harness]

D:

[forest pecan]

so stop complaining

[half harness]

took 47 seconds this time

[onyx loom]

[half harness]

its an improvement

[gusty glen]

did you allocate 2gbs to the server?

[forest pecan]

dkim do you not know how to get a new pc

[half harness]

lets just ignore the fact that i have 19 plugins on my debug server

[half harness]

2.5 iirc

[gusty glen]

whyyyy

[forest pecan]

also, _02 is only my original

I copyright

i will sue u

🥲

[half harness]

[19:11:28 INFO]: Plugins (19): ItemEdit, LastLoginAPI, LuckPerms, Multiverse-Core, Parties, PlaceholderAPI, PlugMan, ProtocolLib, SkinsRestorer, spark, TAB, TCPShield*, Vault, ViaBackwards, ViaRewind, ViaRewindPotions*, ViaVersion, WorldEdit, WorldGuard
```ItemEdit - was for testing another plugin
PlugMan - unload a plugin if i forgot so that it doesn't interfere with my testing
TAB - was testing to get realtime info without spamming chat
others are basically dependencies

[onyx loom]

delete plugman

[half harness]

..

[onyx loom]

theres no excuse

just get rid of it

[half harness]

whats so bad about if

if i dont use the plugman reload, load, or enable

[onyx loom]

whats good about it?

[half harness]

i can disable plugins if i forgot to delete its jar

[forest pecan]

it adds unnecessary resources

dkim even I dont use plugman. Im a man and start a new server everytime

not even use devcm

or that

[half harness]

wait

why isn't bedwars

on the list

[forest pecan]

because u fucked up somewhere

lol

[ocean quartz]

Real devs create an entirely new server for every time they run!

[onyx loom]

matt taking a closed environment to the next level

[forest pecan]

real men buy a completely new computer and test every time

[half harness]

😔

i guess im a fake men

[forest pecan]

nope your not even a man at all

[onyx loom]

buys pc
event doesnt work
oh, i forgot to add @EventHandler
buys new pc

[half harness]

smh imagine ignoring the unused method warning

[ocean quartz]

Only becomes "used" if you have the minecraft dev plugin

[half harness]

wat

intellij has a "suppress if has eventhandler annotation" button

[ocean quartz]

Well you have to click on it lol

[half harness]

-_-

clicking is not that hard

[forest pecan]

buying a new pc isnt that hard

[half harness]

ah yes, server crashes when i create a world

[ocean quartz]

No but the way you said it makes it sound like it's automatic (which it is, but only with the dev plugin)

[half harness]

anyone on 1.16 can test smth? idk if its because its a 1.16 server or if im on 1.8 client but it doesn't see that im standing on a bed ;-;

[cinder flare]

it says it's not a bug or a crash 👀

[half harness]

-_-

[forest pecan]

its a threaddump, usually caused by something occupying the main thread

and overload

[cinder flare]

multiverse poo poo

[half harness]

close enough - a crash ends up 90% of the time anyways :p

[gusty glen]

is there a "Geyser" that does something similar to ViaRewind

[cinder flare]

support older versions of Bedrock?

[gusty glen]

yes

[cinder flare]

I doubt it, I didn't even know you had a choice with Bedrock versions

[obtuse gale]

Is that even a thing?

[gusty glen]

i dont know

[cinder flare]

Bedrock versions? I think they just release incrementally and everyone just updates

[obtuse gale]

Do you even have a choice to not update?

[forest pecan]

no

iirc

it forces u im pretty sure

at least for me on mobile

[obtuse gale]

Then the whole question doesn't matter lmao

[onyx loom]

is it bad that ive listened to the same song for the past 4 hours

[forest pecan]

4 hours???

[onyx loom]

yep 🙂

[forest pecan]

but

why

[onyx loom]

idk

help

[ocean quartz]

like it should with java, no one would be on fucking 1.8

[forest pecan]

Yeah true

but i mean going back to early alpha and seeing the nostalgia

thats always pretty cool

like pack.png

[quiet depot]

@static zealot i’m not sure

I’ve never had that issue before

@cinder flare I think most file explorers on linux have the same functionality

try whatever file explorer you’re using, chances are it can connect to sftp

[quiet depot]

idk if this makes a difference or not

I typically don’t connect to sftp like that in dolphin

I have my openssh configs set up, then I just type sftp://vps or whatever in the path bar at the top and it connects

[static zealot]

Just switched to kwriter. Will use that for now

[obtuse gale]

btw @gusty glen I've been running some JMH benchmarks testing MH and reflection times, it's been a few hours now, near finished

Ideally I would leave it overnight.. and test on different hardware, operating systems, JVM vendors, JRE versions, etc

But I can't be assed

Weeks worth of testing :^)

[gusty glen]

loved the substitution of arsed to assed, gonna steal that

[obtuse gale]

Lol

[gusty glen]

https://tenor.com/view/im-all-about-results-working-out-results-flexing-band-gif-15789699

[cinder flare]

oh that is very cool, I only ever used ranger or ls lol

[obtuse gale]

does \n work for newlines in commit messages? D:

oh shit git D:

[old wyvern]

Papi3 revives again from its slumber?? 👀

[obtuse gale]

😫

[frail glade]

Maybe 👀

[pastel imp]

Random question: If I use 1.17 as the native version for my plugin, does that mean versions below dont work? Cause 1.17 is using java 16? Idk, I am not very familiar with this topic at all

[quiet depot]

so long lower versions support java 16, it'll be fine

[obtuse gale]

unless you define api-version: 1.17

[pastel imp]

Any news on that? Will they support?

[quiet depot]

idk

older versions won't be updated to support 16

[obtuse gale]

that moment I realized there was an infinite recursion loop :kekw:

[quiet depot]

they either will or they won't

[pastel imp]

I suppose (hopefully) they wont have 1.8 support

[obtuse gale]

I believe not even 1.13 supports Java 16

I may be wrong lol

[pastel imp]

I mean, I suppose I will just wait to see

How good the performance is in 1.17

[obtuse gale]

wait what?

you can test rn lol

[pastel imp]

Lets see if they didnt fuck it up like a few versions ago

[obtuse gale]

Unsupported Java detected (60.0). Only up to Java 12 is supported.
yeah na (1.13)

[pastel imp]

Ye ok forgot that but it will still get updates, atleast spigot and paper will have many xd

[obtuse gale]

??

why would 1.13 get updates?

it doesn't now, it hasn't ever since 1.14

and 1.14 hasn't gotten any since 1.15

etc

[pastel imp]

I was speaking about 1.17

Lmao

[obtuse gale]

oh you were talking about 1.17

[pastel imp]

I wanna see how performance is in 1.17

Lol

[obtuse gale]

java 16 will be the minimum

[pastel imp]

Ye that I know

I just wanna figure out if its worth to "force" people use it

Lol

[obtuse gale]

I'm worried about client performance

[pastel imp]

Oof

[obtuse gale]

The world is getting huge vertically

[pastel imp]

I am worried about my pc

Its already a potato

Once 1.17 comes out it will become a fried potato

Whats 1.16.5 java version?

12?

[obtuse gale]

it works on 16 too

and i'm p sure 8 is the minimum

[pastel imp]

Sooo if my plugin is made in 1.16, technically theoretically it will run in like 1.9

[obtuse gale]

not necessarily

[pastel imp]

Ye ikik

[obtuse gale]

but if you don't use any new API and target java 8 then yeah

[pastel imp]

What would be something for the new api?

[obtuse gale]

basically: if you code for 1.9 then it works on 1.9

[obtuse gale]

anything

new classes, methods etc

plugins are not backwards compatible

[pastel imp]

Only forward?

Lul

[obtuse gale]

it's not that a 1.16 plugin works on 1.9, you made a plugin basically for 1.9 and it works on 1.16

[obtuse gale]

mhm mhm

[pastel imp]

Hmm okok

I still see some plugins working on lower versions without any issues without NMS

While their native version is 1.16

[quiet depot]

plugins may work

it's just not guaranteed

[pastel imp]

I LOVE "may"s

Welp makes sense

I suppose I can only know if I test it

[tropic mountain]

I love June

best month

[pastel imp]

I love March and july

One is bday and another is end of school xd

[tropic mountain]

I got an exam today

and it's so boring

[pastel imp]

F gl

[tropic mountain]

ty

[pastel imp]

What is it about?

[tropic mountain]

Economics

in the society

[pastel imp]

Oof surely hot for me

Not*

[tropic mountain]

I hate this

[pastel imp]

Xd welp gl

Gtg

[tropic mountain]

ty

[prisma wave]

https://youtu.be/dRhLRvOZEXA

[old wyvern]

😮

[haughty lion]

uhm

hey

I want some help

[lunar cypress]

who doesn't

[slow quiver]

what am I, chopped liver? 💔

[steel heart]

🥰

[hot hull]

Yes

[old wyvern]

kashike is part of both kyori and paper?

[quiet depot]

kashike is apart of everything

[old wyvern]

👀

[frail glade]

sponge

etc

[old wyvern]

😮

[slow quiver]

https://github.com/kashike/ see org badges for more details

[steel heart]

kashike is kashike basically

[quiet depot]

how do you have time to contribute to basically every big project in mc

I don't even have time to contribute to one project

[slow quiver]

i don't have a job, i don't sleep normal hours

[quiet depot]

how do you get money

[slow quiver]

one way is through github sponsors, others are private :P

[old wyvern]

Damn, thats hell of a lot of contributions

[steel heart]

How do you get sponsors like what’s the requirements:o

[slow quiver]

the program? you apply

[quiet depot]

well first step is to be an adult

[steel heart]

😔

[old wyvern]

What in the? https://github.com/orgs/github-beta/people

xD

[reef stag]

kashike's a pretty smart and highly active person

[slow quiver]

github beta program, yes

[old wyvern]

What exactly is that?

[reef stag]

I expect no less of him

[quiet depot]

get beta features early I assume

like he may have had access to dark theme before everyone else

[old wyvern]

seems to have like an archived "github for unity" repo only

[old wyvern]

ohh

[slow quiver]

private repos too

GitHub Desktop was a beta program

etc

[old wyvern]

Ah I see

[hot hull]

Imagine having time

Sheesh

[jovial warren]

Kashike? Hello?

Haven't ever seen you here lol

Oh you joined recently, that's why lol

Welcome to whatever this channel is meant to be :)

[hot hull]

No need to be sucking up so much smh

[jovial warren]

What

I was saying hello and welcome smh

[jovial warren]

Wdym sucking up

[prisma wave]

Hello paper guy what are your thoughts on Haskell

[quiet depot]

lol didn't you have this conversation in paper already

[jovial warren]

here we go again

[prisma wave]

Nah it was quite underwhelming

Only like 1 person replied, and then we just talked about Prolog and Emacs Lisp

Then someone interrupted and I got bored

[onyx loom]

classic

[jovial warren]

ProLog is actually really interesting

[hot hull]

Hello, helpchat guys, ever heard of F#

[prisma wave]

Of course

[jovial warren]

Definitely not what I'm used to

It takes declarative programming to a whole new level

[onyx loom]

im still yet to learn f#

[old wyvern]

@quiet depot , for a builder would you recommend using methods prefixed with a with or just the fieldnames?

[hot hull]

Same lol

[prisma wave]

Smh

[quiet depot]

field names yugi

[hot hull]

Got that one class which reads file and outputs contents

[prisma wave]

"learn a new one every week" yeah that aged well

[hot hull]

But that's about it

[prisma wave]

Class

[old wyvern]

Great lang

[prisma wave]

Smh

[onyx loom]

from that one day i havent done anything

[old wyvern]

ah alright, thanks pig

[hot hull]

Man I've not opened IJ in a week

[onyx loom]

shush

[hot hull]

File*

[prisma wave]

Thanks

[jovial warren]

Lol facts

[old wyvern]

Rust still going strong

[hot hull]

Shut, during summer we doing it again right Kali?

[prisma wave]

4 pings in 30 seconds yikes

[old wyvern]

Prolog beginning

[hot hull]

This time actually finishing it

[onyx loom]

ofc 🌚

[quiet depot]

@prisma wave

[old wyvern]

@prisma wave

[hot hull]

@prisma wave

[quiet depot]

life of a support member

[jovial warren]

Damn you popular bro

[onyx loom]

🥲

[old wyvern]

Popular Mitten

[jovial warren]

@prisma wave

Bloody Discord

[quiet depot]

bit late to the party

[prisma wave]

Christ

[hot hull]

Until you've got 8.4k mentions you can shut it BM

[jovial warren]

Nah I wasn't pig, blame Discord for not sending my message

[quiet depot]

frosty you have 9103 mentions

[hot hull]

Oh yea doesn't show the hidden channels anymore

Sadge

[prisma wave]

8.3k mentions lol, pretty close

[jovial warren]

3k mentions oof

[hot hull]

Waiting on the bus, hopefully it shows up

[onyx loom]

it wont

[old wyvern]

the reply feature is really blowing mentions up xD

[quiet depot]

lol i've been here longer than u all and somehow u have more mentions than me

wait do you have more messages than me

[hot hull]

Fuck you, I don't wanna walk home

[quiet depot]

oh you have way more

oof

[jovial warren]

How many messages do you have pig?

[quiet depot]

30k less than bm

[onyx loom]

pig bad

[hot hull]

Aktiv

[old wyvern]

84,647

[prisma wave]

im pretty sure I have the most in the server, apart from barry

[quiet depot]

yugi I have 115371

[jovial warren]

I got 48k

[quiet depot]

hidden channels

[old wyvern]

ohh

[onyx loom]

check gaby i think he had the most before

[old wyvern]

I got 47582

[onyx loom]

altho i suspect u are #1 now

[prisma wave]

Yeah more than gaby

[hot hull]

No lifer

[onyx loom]

^

[prisma wave]

shut it

[onyx loom]

close to 1m xp 🌚

[prisma wave]

Taking ages now I'm not boosting

[quiet depot]

then boost

[prisma wave]

no

[quiet depot]

=xp @prisma wave

[quiet depot]

1m xp when we get 10k members

[prisma wave]

what a milestone

[quiet depot]

lol it still says helpful on ur thing

[hot hull]

Oh I remember the days when I was first in xp

[onyx loom]

what happened huh

hehe

[hot hull]

These fucks started using a p2w strategy

[quiet depot]

lol

[hot hull]

You can't say I'm wrong

[quiet depot]

I thought boosters had always gotten more xp

[prisma wave]

i remember me and kali boosting to overtake thein for like #20

[hot hull]

Yes, 2x

[prisma wave]

Slippery slope

[quiet depot]

yeah but you said "these fucks started"

but hasn't it always been like that?

[hot hull]

They weren't boosting then

[quiet depot]

oh I thought you were referring to helpchat

[hot hull]

Nah

[onyx loom]

man i remember that month, it was in like may last year and we went from t4 to like halfway through t5 or smth

[hot hull]

Like damn

[prisma wave]

Yeah man first lockdown did bad things

[onyx loom]

just get gud frosty

[prisma wave]

No school, no exams, time to nolife a minecraft discord

[onyx loom]

🌚

[hot hull]

If y'all weren't boosting I'd be first

[onyx loom]

ud still be #3 if u didn't giveaway ur xp

[prisma wave]

absolutely not

Oh wait

[old wyvern]

Yes, use the MaybeT Monad

[prisma wave]

Yeah probably! I'm afraid you're in the wrong channel though, check out #general-plugins !! Have a nice day 😀

[old wyvern]

WHAT

[hot hull]

Sir this is #dev-general

[prisma wave]

Gotta be "responsible" and "mature"

[onyx loom]

😃

[old wyvern]

Dammit

[quiet depot]

lol it's not like you guys are on topic either

[hot hull]

Shut

[prisma wave]

Hmm

[onyx loom]

xp is very on topic

[hot hull]

Still no bus

[quiet depot]

nah more coding related

[hot hull]

Sir let me stop you right there

[onyx loom]

sometimes dev general just merges with offtopic

[prisma wave]

professional yaml developers

[hot hull]

Did you just say configuration and dev in the same sentence

Shame on you.

[old wyvern]

dev - who configure mc plugins

Yes

Nice

[hot hull]

yaml.dev

May it rest in peace

[lunar cypress]

Since when has dev-general been about development

[old wyvern]

turing complete yaml when?

[quiet depot]

I think at least 50% of the time it is

[prisma wave]

The other 50% is mindless circlejerk

[quiet depot]

no

50% of that 50% is circlejerk

[onyx loom]

🥲

[prisma wave]

Rookie numbers

[quiet depot]

the overall other 50% is just off topic

[old wyvern]

Would you consider the topic of "is dev-general offtopic?" as offtopic in dev-general?

[onyx loom]

🤨

[quiet depot]

yes

as the topic of this channel is development, but specifically not support

therefore discussing the topic of this channel itself should be done elsewhere

[prisma wave]

Not configuration help.

[lunar cypress]

piggy you have no authority on this considering you recently renamed this channel to #relationship-advice

[hot hull]

That is your opinion, and we do not care about your opinion Piggy

[quiet depot]

oof

[old wyvern]

Would you consider talking about something offtopic in #off-topic which is on topic, offtopic in #off-topic?

[quiet depot]

well just remember who wields the ban hammer

[hot hull]

Not you

[onyx loom]

depends if u classify devs as being configurators 🙂

[quiet depot]

absolutely anything can be discussed in #off-topic

[prisma wave]

Absolutely they are (configuring essentials configs for $20/hr DM me)

[quiet depot]

so long it is within the bounds of the rules

[hot hull]

Certainly, if you do use it, you would be dealing us a great favour, if I were to finally be banned - but that would also violate the contract of needing 250 signatures on my ban; which there currently are only 60~ of

[hot hull]

35*

[prisma wave]

I am a noob

[jovial warren]

Wow my internet just died for a moment there

[onyx loom]

bad internet

[prisma wave]

Mad cuz bad

[slow quiver]

I am always watching

[prisma wave]

HELLO

Sir

I meant to ask

[quiet depot]

lol

[prisma wave]

What do you think of the programming language "Haskell" (named after logician Haskell Curry, released in 1990)

[onyx loom]

🌚

[jovial warren]

Test

[mental summit]

hello piglet

[onyx loom]

why can i just see bm start hyperventilating when he mentions haskell

[prisma wave]

Bro got 3 different languages named after him damn

[jovial warren]

Right finally

[old wyvern]

Test Successful

[prisma wave]

because I am

[old wyvern]

What are the other 2?

[onyx loom]

uh oh

[jovial warren]

Well hello Michael, fancy seeing you here too

[quiet depot]

hello

I ordered my steelcase leap

did I tell u?

[prisma wave]

Brook and Curry

[mental summit]

no

[jovial warren]

[mental summit]

what the fuck is a steelcase leap

[prisma wave]

https://youtu.be/KUxnX892N2M
when I see someone asking a Haskell question

[quiet depot]

bro

how do you have an embody and not know what a steelcase leap is

[mental summit]

bro

i bought myself a herman miller aeron

fuck the embody

[old wyvern]

😮

[quiet depot]

what

did you return the embody?

[mental summit]

embody is ass i returned it after 2 weeks

[quiet depot]

I thought you got the logitech one

[prisma wave]

you are just saying words

[mental summit]

aeron is best

[quiet depot]

lol

[mental summit]

i did

[pale shell]

@prisma wave incoming ping in private mine support btw gl with this one

[prisma wave]

☹️

[pale shell]

he won't update from 1.12

[prisma wave]

what am I supposed to do about that

[quiet depot]

anyway

this is a steelcase leap https://www.google.com/search?q=steelcase+leap&oq=steelcase+leap&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i59l2j69i60l5.1088j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[pale shell]

(all my plugins take a shit on 1.12)

[quiet depot]

oops

[onyx loom]

sadge

[quiet depot]

https://store.steelcase.com/seating/office-chairs/leap

[old wyvern]

It merges elements of functional and logic programming, including constraint programming integration. 😮 😮 😮

[jovial warren]

Never thought I'd see Paper people here lol

Omg Discord I swear

[pale shell]

bm it's a "bug with pmines" according to him

[mental summit]

ok but

[pale shell]

Paper people?

[mental summit]

https://cdn.webshopapp.com/shops/142970/files/185854691/herman-miller-aeron-remastered-graphite.jpg > steelcase leap

[quiet depot]

doubt

[onyx loom]

people made of paper

[mental summit]

it's just as cheap too

[pale shell]

oh

[quiet depot]

not here

[pale shell]

lets get the fire out

[quiet depot]

maybe in america

but here an aeron costs 2k

[hot hull]

Tell em to fuck off

[mental summit]

it cost me a whopping $1529 usd

[pale shell]

he paid me

[hot hull]

Hello Michael, hows life

[quiet depot]

jesus fuck

leap is so much cheaper

and better

[old wyvern]

Refund him

[onyx loom]

go in bms discord and say that

[hot hull]

Refund, and send him on his marry fucking way

[old wyvern]

ez

[quiet depot]

I tried leap and aeron

[pale shell]

Don't fucking tempt me.

[quiet depot]

and a fuck ton of other chairs irl

leap >

[hot hull]

Aye aye captain

[pale shell]

I am tempted to.

[quiet depot]

didn't actually try an embody because they didn't have them in stock

[mental summit]

epic

[prisma wave]

arthur is also in my discord

[mental summit]

aeron >

[onyx loom]

yikes

[pale shell]

did he msg you bm

[quiet depot]

ok

does the aeron have upper and lower back firmness

[onyx loom]

is arthur as bad as he is irl bm

[prisma wave]

Not really

Sometimes

[mental summit]

probably

[onyx loom]

🥲

[quiet depot]

no it doesn't

[old wyvern]

🥲

[prisma wave]

he is actually quite smart, just annoying sometimes

[mental summit]

i have something i can adjust for back firmness actually

[old wyvern]

sometimes

[pale shell]

whos smarter

[quiet depot]

o

[onyx loom]

all the time

[quiet depot]

I thought aeron only had adjustable lumbar support

[prisma wave]

He found out about r/kotlinmemes 🥲

[old wyvern]

isnt it dead now?

[mental summit]

isn't that literally back firmness

lmao

[quiet depot]

no

[pale shell]

LOL @hot hull

[onyx loom]

@hot hull omg 😂😂😂

[old wyvern]

we need r/haskellmemes

[pale shell]

Did you see that Kaliber?

[prisma wave]

Oh boy

[onyx loom]

i didnt think ud actually do it 🤣

[hot hull]

Oh you thought i was kidding

[prisma wave]

Yeah but he was going through old posts in class 🥴

[quiet depot]

honestly I can't tell you what lower back firmness is

I don't know what half of this shit means

[hot hull]

Refund the fucker and ban him

[quiet depot]

but lumbar support and lower back firmness are different things on the leap

leap also has upper back firmness

[mental summit]

good

[quiet depot]

oh also how are your arms on the aeron

[old wyvern]

oh lmao

[mental summit]

good

[quiet depot]

what's it like only being able to move them in like 2 directions

you can basically make a roller coaster out of leap arms

[mental summit]

ok but why

[quiet depot]

they move everywhere

maximum fancy

[jovial warren]

Lol are we having a discussion about good office chairs in dev general

[mental summit]

yes

[prisma wave]

this is boring

Not controversial enough

[quiet depot]

this is a very controversial topic

[mental summit]

^

[prisma wave]

doubt

[quiet depot]

herman miller v steelcase is one of the oldest arguments in history

[frail glade]

It's crazy how Slimjar is just about to blast PDM out of the water.

[mental summit]

yes and everyone knows the answer already

[prisma wave]

Okay that's too far

[mental summit]

herman miller aeron is superior over the leap

[quiet depot]

steelcase >

[old wyvern]

xD

[frail glade]

I mean, working on Java 16 and everything.

[old wyvern]

oh boy

[prisma wave]

We don't need to talk about PDM

[mental summit]

it is a known fact

[hot hull]

@onyx loom Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - Can't Hold Us

[quiet depot]

can u cross ur legs on the aeron

no

[mental summit]

yes

[onyx loom]

ew

[quiet depot]

can you cross your legs on the leap

hell yeah

[mental summit]

wtf how can you not cross your legs on the aeron

or any chair

[hot hull]

Fuck u mean ew

[mental summit]

:kekw

[old wyvern]

can you cross your legs on coke

[frail glade]

Who's Aeron?

[quiet depot]

the plastic lip on the aeron makes it uncomfortable af

[hot hull]

It's a chair

[mental summit]

no it doesn't

lose some weight

have thinner legs

[hot hull]

Lmao

[quiet depot]

I'm probably lighter than u

i'm smol irl

[mental summit]

i'm like <65kg

[quiet depot]

i'm 68kg lol

[pale shell]

ask and you getith https://www.reddit.com/r/haskellmeme/

[mental summit]

exactly get fucked

[pale shell]

[mental summit]

should be noted there are multiple sizes of the aeron @quiet depot

[prisma wave]

Gimme admin

[old wyvern]

Me too

[quiet depot]

should be noted that leap fits everyone, and doesn't require literal different sizes due to lacklustre customizability

[mental summit]

ok we can easily end this topic by asking how expensive the leap is

and how expensive the aeron is

[quiet depot]

it's cheaper than the aeron

[mental summit]

exactly so you're poor

aeron is superior

gucci

[quiet depot]

wow

ok well if you buy it from steelcase directly it's more expensive than the aeron

[mental summit]

[pale shell]

I think that's the fastest I've got people to join a subreddit

[quiet depot]

because steelcase gives major discounts to local distributors, which is why I got it for half the price of an aeron

but if u buy it online

full price

[mental summit]

ngl i got a good discount aswell

[quiet depot]

jesus 1.5k was discounted

[jovial warren]

Already has

[quiet depot]

oof

[mental summit]

yes

[pale shell]

new nick who dis

[quiet depot]

so what was wrong with the embody

[mental summit]

it ended up being slightly cheaper than my embody

it has mad creaking noises

hold on

[quiet depot]

yeah I've heard about that

[mental summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUa4KA7nqz8

[jovial warren]

We just need luck to merge my PR bumping ASM to 9.1 and it'll all be fine

[mental summit]

and i ended up having a hole in the fabric after 2 weeks of use

[pale shell]

lol @prisma wave

[quiet depot]

did you stab your chair

[mental summit]

idk maybe

[quiet depot]

you're not meant to stab your chair

[jovial warren]

And Yugi to fix a couple of things

[quiet depot]

that's not what they're meant for

[jovial warren]

Lol

Nah wdym, it's in the instruction manual pig

[quiet depot]

no actually I checked specifically for that

because honestly I was curious

it's a legitimate question

[jovial warren]

You have to stab the chair so it becomes bound to your soul

[quiet depot]

is this chair meant to be stabbed

and guess what

it's not meant to be stabbed

[pale shell]

it is

piggy, i got a serious question

[quiet depot]

yes?

[pale shell]

HelpChat x r/haskellmeme ?

[prisma wave]

Concrete in 1.12