What IDE supports haskel?
#dev-general
eternal compass
Ooh
old wyvern
Please dont use that
steel heart
Replit
prisma wave
there's no dedicated ide
old wyvern
You're hurting yourself if you use that plugin
prisma wave
the vscode one is good
steel heart
Time to create one beloved haskell pioneers
old wyvern
yup
steel heart
?
old wyvern
Time to create one beloved haskell pioneers
maybe
eternal compass
Why a Jvm ide? Does Jetbrains not make a blank IDE for plugins to use?
steel heart
Hvm ide
gusty glen
the guy used it for lists
quiet depot
Why a Jvm ide? Does Jetbrains not make a blank IDE for plugins to use?
intellij community is the blank ide
old wyvern
No, any language can use the community edition one and bundle with their own plugins
prisma wave
the guy used it for lists
yes, you can pattern match a list
eternal compass
intellij community is the blank ide
Well it has JVM stuff pre-added. Anyways I use ultimate 
ocean quartz
It's in the Songoda marketplace Discord
prisma wave
oh god
woeful lark
half harness
🥲
steel heart
He’s too good for it 
eternal compass
mspaint is the best for everything, not even just coding
eternal compass
He’s too good for it <:md_5:728421309394059265>
you can never be too good for paint
steel heart
Fair point
eternal compass
btw, who's robi?
steel heart
Idk
quiet depot
steel heart
quiet depot
fun fact
wireguard is only ~4000 lines of code
according to wikipedia
versus openvpn's 400k lines
steel heart
Lmao
pale shell
@prisma wave do the people know they're adding star's to the wrong repo? 😦
old wyvern
which?
pale shell
they keep adding it to pdm not the other
old wyvern
which other?
pale shell
pmines
old wyvern
lol
prisma wave
seems reasonable
pale shell
no
send them to pmines
make them star pmines
btw @prisma wave why isn't your new bot in Haskell?
half harness
hA
pale shell
Why did you convert it
prisma wave
Why did you convert it
because im not familiar enough with the language to be able to structure a big app well
prisma wave
why would i
pale shell
why not
old wyvern
could've done it in Elara
prisma wave
😌
old wyvern
discord.elr
prisma wave
soon
pale shell
I gotta work out how to fix the method 🥶
pale shell
why not gradle
old wyvern
Already have a gradle plugin
pale shell
then you good
old wyvern
Additional support
pale shell
maven is ew
old wyvern
🤷
pale shell
it actually triggers me that bm knows there's a way to fix it but i'm too dumb to know how lol. Mostly all of the things it uses is needed. He says to split into 2 methods but eh?? Isn't that impossible??
steel heart
7 what
jovial warren
oh btw, @quiet depot I found another reason why I don't want to implement Sponge
you know you have way too many layers of abstraction when your header looks like this https://i.imgur.com/oONOv5q.png
pale shell
steel heart
That’s probably just following the interface segregation principle
jovial warren
oh, and I don't like the kashike getters either
half harness
i thought abstraction was good tho
pale shell
this is what I mean
jovial warren
i thought abstraction was good tho
yeah but not that much
steel heart
https://i.imgur.com/ao4J795.png
Builder maybe
ocean quartz
Gotta love it
Adventure is just like that too
pale shell
I've been told it's possible to get it down but I just have 0 clue how.
jovial warren
yeah Adventure has a few unnecessary layers of abstraction
I hate the new getter/setter style that doesn't have the get/set prefixes though
especially because Kotlin can't resolve those into properties
steel heart
Record style is pog tho
pastel imp
yo boys.. so lets say I am making a home plugin, and I want to store locations/data in a separate yml file for each player, what would be the best way of loading them? Do I need to load them onEnable()? or what other options do I have?
jovial warren
and every time I've said that to kashike, the only response I get is "that's Kotlin's problem, not mine"
pale shell
Builder maybe
Can builders go over 7 things tho?
steel heart
Yes
steel heart
Just google builder pattern
jovial warren
Record style is pog tho
yeah that's fine because Kotlin made an exception there that converts those specific record ones to properties
pale shell
Alright lit thanks!
old wyvern
i thought abstraction was good tho
It is
jovial warren
also, Billy Galbreath made a good point about you having those prefixes so you can just type "get" and only get the property getters, rather than getting literally everything
steel heart
Yeah true
pale shell
guess what my afternoon job is now then! haha!
jovial warren
https://i.imgur.com/AJAZfJU.png dear god what is that
pale shell
not my code hopefully
jovial warren
nah this is Sponge code
steel heart
Interface segregation
steel heart
Arguably not, I mean ideally it could be flattened to 1 interface
But you’re right
That is confusing
jovial warren
there's no reason to have that many layers of abstraction
quiet depot
the kashike getters?
jovial warren
name() instead of getName()
steel heart
Record style pog
quiet depot
that's the way you write getters
jovial warren
I call them kashike getters because I've only mostly seen them being used by kashike
quiet depot
kashike writes good code
jovial warren
that's the way you write getters
I heard it was the way Java is going now or something
quiet depot
yes
jovial warren
the way the community has decided
steel heart
I mean IntelliJ still suggests getters with the get prefix
jovial warren
I wonder if implementing Sponge is not such a bad idea then 🤔
quiet depot
records use that convention bardy
jovial warren
yeah ik
jovial warren
but not much else does
quiet depot
naming them like that allows us to switch to records in the future
old wyvern
Why the sudden change?
quiet depot
you don't have to yugi
there were cases of both yugi
some methods used get, some didn't
old wyvern
Ah
jovial warren
what do you think of the kashike ClassName.className() instantiation pattern btw pig
quiet depot
the maintainers made a choice
jovial warren
I think it's god awful
old wyvern
Ok so "officially", getters dont include a get rn, correct?
quiet depot
correct
jovial warren
Audience.audience, Identity.identity, Key.key, just look around Adventure, won't take you long to find them
quiet depot
get isn't a good prefix anyway
jovial warren
BossBar.bossBar
old wyvern
Alrighty
old wyvern
true
quiet depot
.name() is way better
quiet depot
and is doesn't work all the time either
quiet depot
for example you may use a boolean for a permission check
quiet depot
yes
steel heart
(:
boreal needle
so is .getX() the wrong way of doing it?
oak coyote
But name can lack some information without further details
quiet depot
it's not an official convention lucyy
old wyvern
I cant think of anything atm but for the sake of it, insert haskell circlejerk here
boreal needle
oops
ocean quartz
especially because Kotlin can't resolve those into properties
That'll be a thing in the future
Already resolves it correctly for records in 1.5
oak coyote
If I call something potato
boreal needle
also what's the proper name for the foo instanceof Bar bar expression?
steel heart
also what's the proper name for the `foo instanceof Bar bar` expression?
Smart casting or smtng no?
oak coyote
Cause it could mean isPotato or just getPotato
quiet depot
pattern matching lucyy
old wyvern
pattern matching lucyy
😌
boreal needle
cool thanks
quiet depot
jerry it was never a smart idea to rely on names to determine something's type
java is statically typed, and highly verbose syntactically
old wyvern
f (Bar bar) = ...
prisma wave
f (Bar bar) = ...
😌
old wyvern
What we really need is c# properties 😳
quiet depot
are they just structs?
old wyvern
was that to me or jerry?
boreal needle
c# properties are really nice
jovial warren
well Mojang picked 16
quiet depot
knee jerk
boreal needle
public Foo Bar { get; private set; }```Well then I’m sure you can work out what mojang is
old wyvern
Oh, they're just a way to define getters and setters without the get/set dilemma, same as kotlins properties except its explicit
quiet depot
ahh
quiet depot
okie
jovial warren
wdym knee jerk
boreal needle
not being funny but why cant they just wait for 17
jovial warren
ah right
quiet depot
17 makes much more sense imo
jovial warren
I wanna bump to 16 now and then bump to 17 when Mojang does
oak coyote
What’s 17 bringing
jovial warren
or bump to 17 when it comes out
boreal needle
JEP 356: Enhanced Pseudo-Random Number Generators
JEP 382: New macOS Rendering Pipeline
JEP 391: macOS/AArch64 Port
JEP 398: Deprecate the Applet API for Removal
JDK-6323374: Collections.unmodifiable* methods are idempotent for their corresponding collection. The unmodifiable* methods in java.util.Collections will no longer re-wrap a given collection with an unmodifiable view if that collection has already been wrapped by same method. (our unit tests still pass)
JDK-8235139: Deprecate the socket impl factory mechanism
JDK-8259709: Disable SHA-1 XML Signatures. XML signatures that use SHA-1 based digest or signature algorithms have been disabled by default. (our unit tests still pass)
JDK-8259801: Enable XML Signature secure validation mode by default
quiet depot
however I believe mojang is planning on upgrading more frequently now
someone said that earlier
jovial warren
I swear 17 is the first version with development builds of valhalla in it
boreal needle
itd be nice to finally move on from java 8
oak coyote
They were stuck on 8 for so fucking long
steel heart
Java 17 will make sealed classes no longer preview right?
jovial warren
preview a.k.a beta?
old wyvern
(our unit tests still pass)
boreal needle
i may be wrong
steel heart
Rip JIT might get removed
jovial warren
you what
boreal needle
isnt it aot theyre removing
jovial warren
no way they're removing the JIT compiler
quiet depot
both lucyy
old wyvern
JDK-6323374: Collections.unmodifiable* methods are idempotent for their corresponding collection. The unmodifiable* methods in java.util.Collections will no longer re-wrap a given collection with an unmodifiable view if that collection has already been wrapped by same method. (our unit tests still pass)
why does that sound like lack of confidence on that change? xD
quiet depot
no way they're removing the JIT compiler
They're removing the experimental JIT & AOT compiler
keyword experimental
steel heart
Ah
old wyvern
Is that not the actual JIT?
quiet depot
no I don't believe so
it's the graal compiler
it was added in java 10
only for linux
now they're removing it
due to little use
quiet depot
yes
old wyvern
Ahh
quiet depot
boreal needle
how come Bukkit.getOfflinePlayer(String) is deprecated?
i appreciate the need for uuids but what about stuff like command parsing
old wyvern
You can still use it, I dont think its scheduled for removal
old wyvern
They just randomly decided to deprecate it to let people know about the UUID addition
boreal needle
but why
old wyvern
🤷 classic spigot
steel heart
how come Bukkit.getOfflinePlayer(String) is deprecated?
Might make a request to mojang
boreal needle
i really do question the orange hash man sometimes
quiet depot
also maven
boreal needle
and java 8
steel heart
Barely java 8
He didn’t know about several higher order functions in the Bukkit scheduler
(Some time ago)
steel heart
Uh so iirc I helped a dude in spigot discord and proposed the Consumer<BukkitTask> thing
md5 by nature jumped on me telling me it wasn’t a method
iirc
I can see if I can find it
prisma wave
wat
steel heart
Ye
prisma wave
surely he would have at least reviewed it, if not added it himself
quiet depot
d;spigot bukkitscheduler#runtask(consumer)
ruby craterBOT
quiet depot
that one?
steel heart
Yeah
quiet depot
@ocean quartz still no parameter order pr smh
static zealot
Windows sucks so much
quiet depot
why
boreal needle
blitz spitting fax rn
quiet depot
no printer
boreal needle
no telephone
static zealot
why
latest update just constantly crashes everything. I've uninstalled it and they decided to update to it again ... xD
quiet depot
boreal needle
gnome or kde?
old wyvern
kde
quiet depot
unity obviously
old wyvern
xD
quiet depot
kde is best for performance and looks lucyy
static zealot
I've tried dual booting and all I did is break a USB Stick
quiet depot
if windows is broken
static zealot
dual booting ubuntu*
boreal needle
if i didnt have games i play then i'd go 100% linux
quiet depot
ok here's something which I didn't really expect
boreal needle
i might go for a kde + i3 setup
quiet depot
partition management on linux is so much better than windows
static zealot
Idk. I tried the Etcher app to format it or whatever and now its just broken xD
boreal needle
kde is just ripoff gparted
old wyvern
Idk. I tried the Etcher app to format it or whatever and now its just broken xD
format it and it should work fine
old wyvern
kde partition manager doesnt show all things gparted does
boreal needle
unmount it
old wyvern
like it didnt let me change partition flags
old wyvern
I see
steel heart
@prisma wave
boreal needle
i'm far too lazy for cli
quiet depot
boreal needle
now that looks like what i need
quiet depot
boreal needle
gonna try frankensteining my dots onto kde
static zealot
ocean quartz
<@!180369172046413824> still no parameter order pr smh
Ah shit, i keep forgetting
prisma wave
<@!266973575225933824>
dear god
quiet depot
remove write protection blitz
static zealot
I do that from regedit?
quiet depot
is there a physical switch on ur usb
static zealot
how would that even look?
static zealot
but I can do it fro regedit apparently
old wyvern
lol
quiet depot
it's almost like... etcher is meant to do that
well not the write protected thing
but what they're talking about in that thread
old wyvern
xD
quiet depot
maybe i'm misunderstanding the issue
but fairly sure it's meant to do that
windows can't read what it writes
it can only read that partition with the efi folder
quiet depot
windows said the usb was write protected
@static zealot did you actually try boot the usb?
old wyvern
That isnt the actual issue piggy
that shows up after he tried to format it after using etcher
quiet depot
oh
old wyvern
Or atleast thats what I understood from what he said
quiet depot
well yeah that's not right
I've got another theory
his usb is just shit
same thing happens on sd cards with cameras, and pis especially
people buy cheap shitty sd cards and they lock up due to excessive writes
old wyvern
It could just be him misunderstanding the lower size seen after etching
static zealot
for me it has no size according to This PC
quiet depot
did you try boot from it?
static zealot
nope
static zealot
alr will try
jovial warren
Would ask this in the Krypton Discord, but I doubt I'd get that big of a response. I'm trying to decide if I should implement an existing API and scrap the current Krypton API, or keep developing the Krypton API, so here it goes:
1️⃣ if you think I should implement Bukkit (most likely Purpur's API, for the most features)
2️⃣ if you think I should implement Sponge
3️⃣ if you think I should keep developing the Krypton API
steel heart
Assume you continue with Krypton API then you’re practically free to build on it how you want needless to say you can still take inspiration from other APIs of course this kinda breaks reinvention of the wheel.
jovial warren
Yugi just delete that
that's not even funny
actually please just get rid of it
thank you
prisma wave
noooooooooooooooooo
old wyvern
OPPRESSION!
jovial warren
it's called I asked a serious question and you were taking the piss
prisma wave
literally 1984
old wyvern
literally 1984
ikr
jovial warren
thanks pig
quiet depot
np
prisma wave
corrupt staff
jovial warren
I'm gonna repost it in the Krypton Discord, since it won't get lost there and ik there are a few people that might not see it in here
jovial warren
feel free to re-vote in there so it's more likely that I'll actually remember your vote lol
prisma wave
(asking here cuz #development is busy)
how can i make my root nginx configuration not override a subdomain configuration?
i have 2 files in sites-enabled, and the subdomain.domain.tld is being overridden by domain.tld
root domain: https://paste.bristermitten.me/bumeqamuhy.nginx
sentry subdomain: https://paste.bristermitten.me/edofisalyl.nginx
https://x0.at/jAN.png this should take me to the service behind port 9000
steel heart
Use impurity
prisma wave
thanks
prisma wave
very helpful
jovial warren
(asking here cuz <#165129131770511360> is busy)
how can i make my root nginx con...
have you got the name set in the configs?
jovial warren
server_name iirc
prisma wave
ffs
jovial warren
lol did I just nail that first time
quiet depot
no it's set in both configs
jovial warren
was I right?
quiet depot
??
jovial warren
or what was the issue?
quiet depot
it's in both...
prisma wave
uh
quiet depot
bm it's already there
prisma wave
yes
jovial warren
what was the issue BM?
prisma wave
i had server_name but it had .me on the end
quiet depot
lol
prisma wave
im so used to typing bristermitten.me
i wrote that first, saw it, corrected it and then left the .me
thanks
i am dumb
quiet depot
ok so what's developerden
prisma wave
im so glad you asked
steel heart
A discord server I believe
prisma wave
pretty much is
prisma wave
true
quiet depot
so
prisma wave
this is 2nd best tho
quiet depot
you've got it "working"
prisma wave
yes
quiet depot
but your working is still showing the nginx message
prisma wave
no no it works now
quiet depot
https://github.com/TheDeveloperDen/DevDenBot docdex integration soon™️?
or just ya know
inv docdex
prisma wave
we already have it 😎
prisma wave
there's one on the bot repo
description
yo pig
you might know the answer to this
do you know some service that I can connect to github actions which will build a docker image, pull on my vps, and redeploy?
@quiet depot (pls dont go offline)
quiet depot
don’t see why gh actions can’t do all of the above
prisma wave
could they deploy the image?
quiet depot
i assume so
quiet depot
can’t u ssh into ur vps thru a gh action
prisma wave
that might be better?
quiet depot
ur vps listens on the webhook and does all the shit when it gets a hit
prisma wave
yeah
quiet depot
that’s what we do for barry
quiet depot
and all my own projects
prisma wave
or is there some existing thing
quiet depot
nah i just made a lil something for barry
just runs a http server
some lightweight thing
prisma wave
hmm okay
quiet depot
then execs a few commands
for other projects I usually just get jenkins to run a bash scrilt
distant sun
rm -f
quiet depot
ye sorta
ptero
but we’ve setup a similar thing with docker compose in the past for a beta ecloud
prisma wave
ooh
quiet depot
lemmo helped with that
prisma wave
that's pretty much what im looking for
i guess for now i can just clone, and then do docker-compose up or whatever
quiet depot
yeah iirc it was pretty simple to use once lemmo set it up
docdex’s ci/cd stuff is needlessly complicated tbh
the lifecycle is spread throught scripts and actual java code
definitely needs to be cleaned up
prisma wave
yeah i kinda wanna avoid that mess lol
do you think it would be better to build images on github's end or my vps?
quiet depot
gh
quiet depot
idk
prisma wave
me neither lol
quiet depot
i’m not the guy to ask about that
quiet depot
my reasoning for gh was so other people could easily access it
prisma wave
makes sense
and then you can publish images too
with github packages or something
on the other hand, money
i think you might need to pay for that with an org / team
quiet depot
no clue
pale shell
@prisma wave https://i.imgur.com/oZ7vE6u.png 🙂
prisma wave
progress
pale shell
it went from 15
that was hard work doing the main method my gosh
i had to workout what was needed in the method and what wasn't lol.
ocean quartz
What happened? xD
jovial warren
more support, easier to use
and I'm switching to configurate, which is why I can drop Kotlin serialization now
distant sun
:)
jovial warren
https://i.imgur.com/y7rmiy4.png man I better get some popcorn
half harness
lol
jovial warren
5 votes for Bukkit, 5 votes for Sponge, and 5 votes for the Krypton API
jovial warren
:)
gonna guess that means you like configurate
unless you were reacting to something else
distant sun
Configurate is pretty nice, have used it a lot but is nice
forest pecan
https://i.imgur.com/y7rmiy4.png man I better get some popcorn
i forced it to 5/5/5
it was originally 3/3/3 then i didnt vote
then it was 4/5/5
then i voted for the first one
to be 5/5/5
😎
jovial warren
did you read the options btw?
forest pecan
Yes
jovial warren
you think I should implement Bukkit then?
forest pecan
yea maybe
humble silo
In IJ is there a way to either move back updates or add a Gradle dependency to a module? 2021.1.1 seems to have added a update to this and i cant figure out the old way of doing it... Also they havent updated their docs https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/working-with-module-dependencies.html
half harness
if you use Jetbrains Toolbox you can rollback
static zealot
someone please tell me there's a good alternative of sharex for linux
humble silo
if you use Jetbrains Toolbox you can rollback
Oh great thanks!
static zealot
what the hell is the control button? bcz rn my control does what shift does
on ubuntu I Mean
static zealot
yeah I've somehow gotten into a thing that shows me what the key I Pressed does
and my ctrl does the same as shift
same for my windows key and my ALT xD
omg.. its bcz on my laptop I have FN key and I have to press FN+CTRL
well shit
half harness
xD
static zealot
actually no
its not that
what the hell
so I have an external keyboard and the laptop keyboard works
as intended
but the external one does not
onyx loom
bad keyboard
half harness
windows ftw
prisma wave
ocean quartz
So Sx is called Ginger Bill
static zealot
@old wyvern help me xD I've been googl-ing for a while and can't seem to find out how to fix this. Basically my external keyboard keys (ctrl, win, alt) are all mapped to do the same as shift does.
the laptop keyboard tho, doesn't have this problem
jovial warren
https://odin.handmade.network/ WHAT
is it just me or is that literally Go
ocean quartz
Has anyone ever seen this error? https://paste.helpch.at/yabohabona.js
[patched_1.16.5.jar:git-Yatopia-ver/1.16.5-"16ba48e"]
Ofc 🤡
prisma wave
is it just me or is that literally Go
Very very similar yeah
static zealot
well I got sharex, sublime, IJ, discord all I need to do is figure out this keyboard bullshit and get MYKI to work
jovial warren
configurate is actually giving me a headache
steel heart
Why
jovial warren
so, I have my categories (@ConfigSerializable objects), and I'm basically trying to load a config file, or save it with default values if it doesn't exist
but all this loading stuff and what not is kinda complex
steel heart
Hmm uh I haven’t worked with any annots but I find it quite simple
jovial warren
ah I think I got it, dw
steel heart
Very pog
jovial warren
man, why doesn't Arch have OpenJDK 16 builds yet smh
or maybe it does
@prisma wave you got any idea if/where the Arch OpenJDK 16 builds are?
forest pecan
i never knew this, but java can have hardware acceleration
jovial warren
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/jdk-adoptopenjdk/ think I found one
jovial warren
i never knew this, but java can have hardware acceleration
you what
forest pecan
Yeah
there's like this argument
sun.java2d.opengl or smthing
apparantly, it delivers graphic acceleration?
not sure how much impact this would be though for stuff like clients
prisma wave
<@!266973575225933824> you got any idea if/where the Arch OpenJDK 16 builds are?
sdkman
jovial warren
ok
lunar cypress
speaking of which, does anyone know how to tell pacman or yay to skip installing a dependency of a package?
forest pecan
--assume-installed=
lunar cypress
thanks, I'll try that later
forest pecan
np
half harness
https://i.imgur.com/YHqFMKG.png
btw just curious, but is there anything to prevent issue spammers 👀
like a third of those issues are spam
jovial warren
steel heart
Archive and unarchive maybe
half harness
https://paste.helpch.at/rebujeqiju.coffeescript 🥲
oh boy
wheres the show-ip-on-player-join option
steel heart
Good
half harness
Good
jovial warren
might add a show-all-details to super-secret-settings that performs a lookup to find the approximate street address location of the IP address, and also does a Google lookup to see every single detail it can find about a user when they join
steel heart
jovial warren
you gotta know though... that I'm obviously joking
that would be incredibly annoying and difficult to do
half harness
good
jovial warren
crawling Google and using AI to find useful results is something that is far beyond me
jovial warren
forest pecan
i just found out how much different the kotlin dst is in gradle compared to groovy
like in groovy you can just do
shadowJar {
}
but then in Kotlin it be like
tasks.withType<ShadowJar> {
}
or smthing like that
am i doing something wrong lmao
ocean quartz
withType<ShadowJar> {}
steel heart
Kotlin dsl is nice cuz of consistency I guess
forest pecan
Yeah
forest pecan
i kinda want to convert to groovy sometime cause like the documentation on the kotlin dsl is lacking
ocean quartz
It is a bit more verbose in some things but not in others, for example:
maven { url = "url" }
// vs
maven("url")
Yeah well point is the choice here is among the more insignificant ones
ocean quartz
Biggest reason to switch to kts, no more fucking warnings everywhere, and actual good code completion
forest pecan
its still slow :((
steel heart
Completion with groovy is fine and most nonsense warnings seem to be fixed frankly
forest pecan
but at least its there
ocean quartz
Completion with groovy is fine and most nonsense warnings seem to be fixed frank...
Emily had the warnings just the other day 🥲
steel heart
Idk it was like a good 3 weeks ago since I encountered one
pale shell
After 3 days of refractoring stuffs, I think I saved pmines 🥲
steel heart
🥲
pale shell
https://i.imgur.com/doEPFAH.png don't mind me, just carrying the repo lol
I mean bm did do a lot of work at the start
static zealot
Someone please help 😢
pale shell
whats up
half harness
https://i.imgur.com/doEPFAH.png don't mind me, just carrying the repo lol
well, you're committing like every 2 minutes-
half harness
seeing how little bm commits, imo its useless to commit every 2 mins, but bm told you to do it, so ig do it 🤷
pale shell
hey idm it's fun
half harness
i only commit when asking for help and using github to show code or at night
or if its my library, since i need jitpack to update
pale shell
yeah bm said to stop doing that
half harness
lol
pale shell
local commit changes then push in on go
pale shell
where that
half harness
half harness
i have to work on better commit names
ignoring the fact that i forgot to update version numbers in build.gradle 4 times in that screenshot alone
🙂
pale shell
@prisma wave look at this users commit names you made me change, pls make him change also
prisma wave
seeing how little bm commits, imo its useless to commit every 2 mins, but bm tol...
small commits are what you're supposed to do
half harness
small commits are what you're supposed to do
but my intellij takes like 2 minutes to commit
prisma wave
then use command line
pale shell
SonarLint hates me
half harness
its not like someones gonna contribute D:
pale shell
how you know
half harness
plus, even if someone contributes, whats the point of committing every 5 lines of change
prisma wave
its not like someones gonna contribute D:
doesn't matter, it's easier to revert a small commit and find out what caused an issue
half harness
doesn't matter, it's easier to revert a small commit and find out what caused an...
local history :)
i commit relatively large changes
for that reason
smaller changes can be reverted with local history
prisma wave
local history \:)
too unreliable
and it doesn't mark changes
there's no description
half harness
and it doesn't mark changes
yes it does
prisma wave
no i mean
it's not like there's a descriptive log of all of the changes
if i committed "tweak values in XP algorithm" and then everyone got way too much XP, it's pretty obvious what caused the issue
half harness
this is my bedwars plugin commit log
prisma wave
you can just revert the commit and be done
pale shell
not doing small commits then pushing it all in one go is like not using Kotlin and still using java
half harness
what
half harness
¯_(ツ)_/¯
onyx loom
what a great analogy
half harness
lol
pale shell
ty
boreal needle
is java really that bad
boreal needle
it's come a long long way recently
pale shell
got much further to go still
prisma wave
not doing small commits then pushing it all in one go is like not using Kotlin a...
like not using Haskell and still using Kotlin*
boreal needle
idk i just dont find it to be evil like everyone makes it out to be
onyx loom
its really not
prisma wave
idk i just dont find it to be evil like everyone makes it out to be
didn't you hear the news? java bad kotlin good!
onyx loom
haha!
pale shell
yes !
prisma wave
WHO
forest pecan
@pale shell
prisma wave
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
forest pecan
Hypocrite!!
onyx loom
if only the latest java version was the most populous 😔
boreal needle
;-;
pale shell
oh look a haskell gif
onyx loom
the version that doesnt even work with vsc
prisma wave
sounds like a YOU problem
prisma wave
call yourself a developer? Fix it.
onyx loom
wait no
prisma wave
NO
onyx loom
EVERYONE PROBLWM
pale shell
hey kaliber did bm tell you?
pale shell
he's a || furry ||
prisma wave
what if i dont write haskell
YOU DIE
prisma wave
he's a || furry ||
you have me confused for sxtanna
onyx loom
disgusting human being
pale shell
no
prisma wave
oh
pale shell
shame
boreal needle
;-;
pale shell
I want a refund
boreal needle
if i use haskell will i die
boreal needle
brb installing haskell
prisma wave
if i use haskell will i die
yup
pale shell
bm i tried installing haskell today
prisma wave
did you
pale shell
my antivirus blocked it
prisma wave
imagine using an antivirus
pale shell
"Sorry, I can't let you install shit languages"
onyx loom
🥲
prisma wave
"Sorry, I can't let you install shit languages"
IT DID NOT SAY THAT
onyx loom
imagine using an antivirus
linux is the antivirus
jovial warren
and Haskell is the virus 😎
pale shell
Atleast linux works unlike haskell
onyx loom
wha
prisma wave
as fast as java
onyx loom
that makes no sense pulse
pale shell
haskell is fast change my mind
It's fast because it's so SHIT it doesn't work
forest pecan
/s
prisma wave
Atleast linux works unlike haskell
source: I said so
pale shell
bm pls push the latest code changes to spigot for me ty
gusty glen
as fast as java
so it's slow?
jovial warren
yeah Java's kinda slow compared with native languages
prisma wave
wait really? a garbage collected higher level language based entirely around recursion and immutability is somewhat slower than C? no way
onyx loom
🤡
gusty glen
wait really? a garbage collected higher level language based entirely around rec...
imagine haskell compiling to C
prisma wave
jovial warren
just wouldn't happen
pale shell
anyone do some typing for me?
jovial warren
because C is S tier and Haskell is E tier
onyx loom
interesting.
gusty glen
kotlin is nice, but the java byte code behind it is like 🤢 lul
pale shell
Is there an easy way to generate a change log
ocean quartz
Why debate which language is better, they aren't even comparable lol
jovial warren
kotlin is nice, but the java byte code behind it is like 🤢 lul
check out kotlin.jvm lol
gusty glen
Is there an easy way to generate a change log
write by hand
jovial warren
(the package)
pale shell
but the effort
gusty glen
check out `kotlin.jvm` lol
I'm scared
ocean quartz
kotlin is nice, but the java byte code behind it is like 🤢 lul
Kotlin probably wouldn't have gotten much far without the JVM, i mean look at how many people use Native
static zealot
Well fuck.. turns out the problem is my keyboard not ubuntu 😢
prisma wave
Well fuck.. turns out the problem is my keyboard not ubuntu 😢
wat
jovial warren
just gives you loads of annotations that will mostly fix up your shitty behind the scenes Java code
e.g. @JvmRecord, @JvmDefault, @JvmStatic, @JvmField, etc.
gusty glen
Kotlin probably wouldn't have gotten much far without the JVM, i mean look at ho...
yeah I know, I literally meant like the compiled kotlin code is ugly per se
static zealot
wat
my CTRL, ALT and WIN keys for my external keyboards are all mapped to do the same as SHIFT. but only for this keyboard. I assume it has something to do with the fact that my keyboard should automatically install the drivers when I plug it in which it most likely doesn't. It works on windows but when I switch to ubuntu it doesn't anymore
onyx loom
can't wait for that subreddit to also die within a month
gusty glen
just gives you loads of annotations that will mostly fix up your shitty behind t...
I never use those 🥲
jovial warren
Kotlin probably wouldn't have gotten much far without the JVM, i mean look at ho...
use what? /s
prisma wave
can't wait for that subreddit to also die within a month
nonsense, none of my projects ever die
prisma wave
except the p ones
ocean quartz
use what? /s
Kotlin native
onyx loom
minekraft
ocean quartz
Oh added /s later lol
onyx loom
minehraft
jovial warren
nonsense, none of my projects ever die
oh boy, time to find out how true that really is
jovial warren
going to count "dead" as anything that has:
- less than 5 starts
- no commits within the last month
steel heart
nonsense, none of my projects ever die
Knightz api
steel heart
life
onyx loom
hehe
jovial warren
HaskellJava
JavaHaskell2
fancyprivatemines
SimpleLanguage
mf-gui-kotlin
MineKraft-New
komms (uses your favourite word in the description btw)
```list goes on"you're finally awake! you hit your head real bad. haskell? clojure? elara? what are you talking about? Sxtanna just started another argument in #development , let's go code some kotlin and watch"
jovial warren
backpacks
onyx loom
mf gui kotlin 😢
prisma wave
```
HaskellJava
JavaHaskell2
fancyprivatemines
SimpleLanguage
mf-gui-kotlin
Mine...
WHAT THAT'S NOT FAIR
jovial warren
WHAT THAT'S NOT FAIR
which would you like excluded sir?
ocean quartz
mf gui kotlin 😢
Yugi should be working on that soon 
onyx loom
a SUPER IDIOMATIC Kotlin command framework
jovial warren
maybe HaskellJava, JavaHaskell2, fancyprivatemines and mf-gui-kotlin don't quite qualify
ocean quartz
Yeah
onyx loom
dont let me down yugi
gusty glen
(kt > java)
prisma wave
HaskellJava
JavaHaskell2
proofs of concept, don't exactly need constant maintenance
fancyprivatemines
i still work on that a bit
SimpleLanguage
not really "abandoned", i was just using github for file storage there
mf-gui-kotlin
does anyone even use this? if so i'll update it
komms
okay maybe this one
jovial warren
also, what is https://github.com/knightzmc/MineKraft-New btw
prisma wave
an attempt at a rewrite
onyx loom
i use mf gui kotlin
prisma wave
😮
onyx loom
its good
prisma wave
😮
jovial warren
you rewrote it and made it more complex and kinda crap?
prisma wave
🥰
i rewrote it with some shit kotlin IO library instead of netty
which was a terrible mistake
onyx loom
lol
jovial warren
prisma wave
i mean
gusty glen
but hey, have you heard anything about mixins? I watched a video yesterday showing them in Dart, I just discovered what I missed my entire life
prisma wave
it had "idiomatic coroutine api" so it seemed GOOD
jovial warren
but hey, have you heard anything about `mixins`? I watched a video yesterday sho...
you'll never guess what else I'm thinking of adding to Krypton soon
mixins
😎
also gonna migrate the API's vector stuff over to using Sponge math at some point
ocean quartz
> HaskellJava
> JavaHaskell2
proofs of concept, don't exactly need constant main...
Elara 4 months 🥲
prisma wave
☹️
jovial warren
oh btw Matt, you know Gson better than I do, is it better if I have one central Gson instance or should I have different instances for different things?
ocean quartz
I don't think it matters, i personally do 1 instance
onyx loom
bardy a changed man to the better serilization lib 😌
steel heart
I have one for pretty printing and lenient and one for no pretty printing sort of
static zealot
I might be going crazy but I'm trying to clone a repository on ubuntu rn using the git package git clone link and it requires me to enter a username and a password. Is it not my github username and password?
jovial warren
gotta upgrade to access tokens
static zealot
Because I've tried copy pasting the password, I've tried typing it, I even made my password extremely easy to make sure I was not misstyping it and it still tels me that uusername or password are invalid
jovial warren
GitHub removed password access
jovial warren
is there a way you can use a generic type in the fromJson btw? because doing List<ProfileProperty>::class.java seems to throw an error saying only classes can be on the left hand side of a class literal
obtuse gale
Gson?
jovial warren
and how do I Upgrade to token or whatever that is
settings -> developer settings -> some token thingies whatever -> generate a new one
obtuse gale
Or what?
jovial warren
yes, Gson
obtuse gale
You need to pass a Type
jovial warren
Class is a type
it's complaining about me using List<ProfileProperty>::class
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5554217/google-gson-deserialize-listclass-object-generic-type/5554296#5554296 man I have to use a type token
that sucks
maybe I could make a reified extension for that
static zealot
settings -> developer settings -> some token thingies whatever -> generate a new...
thanks a lot. well 2 problems remain then I guess
obtuse gale
that sucks
Why does that suck lol
lunar cypress
@forest pecan ok --assume-installed doesn't seem to work
[johnny@johnny-desktop ~]$ sudo pacman -S plantuml --assume-installed=java-runtime
resolving dependencies...
:: There are 3 providers available for java-runtime>=8:
:: Repository extra
1) jre-openjdk 2) jre11-openjdk 3) jre8-openjdk
nvm got it
forgot the version
pale shell
Well done @lunar cypress
static zealot
@onyx loom u around? Can you please link me the github for Material Theme (plugin for IJ) or whatever you linked last time so I can download the latest free one and also the extension for github icons bcz I can't seem to find any of them
onyx loom
on mobile
onyx loom
looks like it
pale shell
👍
static zealot
ty odin
onyx loom
the chrome extension is called material atom icons or smth