Wait they are different?
#dev-general
distant sun
gusty glen
in kotlin all switch are expressions
obtuse gale
yield is like break with a return value, the method execution continues as normal and you produced a value
(Again, I haven't tested this) return I presume returns from the whole method
distant sun
Secret is talking about cases like map { } where you can do return@map to return a value for map {} or return to target the function itself
gusty glen
java is becoming less bad, but I don't see it's core issue being fixed
obtuse gale
Yeah imagine yield as the return@map for the switch
obtuse gale
java is becoming less bad, but I don't see it's core issue being fixed
Bring?
distant sun
But yea, probabily a return@switch wont make much sense but having it use the last value from a block would be much better
old wyvern
onyx loom
ew
obtuse gale
Oh bummers
gusty glen
Bring?
Enforce null safety at language design (even if it forces us to use yet another new keyword)
old wyvern
Imagine having nullability
gusty glen
Or like they said in the article you posted up there, give us a "opt in" to kill null from our lifes
and have only some nullable variables at our will
old wyvern
blame C# all you want, but thats where these features at ๐
gusty glen
Thats used by java users as well
well, not by me
old wyvern
๐ฅฒ
lunar cypress
it's bad
old wyvern
false
half harness
it's bad
lunar cypress
yugi when are you going to see the light (learn apl)?
lunar cypress
my judgement
onyx loom
ah nice
lunar cypress
No idea, currently trying to get grasp of lisps
also good
onyx loom
i see
lunar cypress
I'm learning it right now and the thought of the language circlejerk here getting even more obscure than it already is is really funny to me
lunar cypress
Imagine someone coming here to chat with others about minecraft plugin development and the first things that are thrown at them are lisp, prolog and apl
old wyvern
xD
lost forge
Nah, the first thing that would be thrown at them is maben vs gradle and Haskell vs killing and everything else
lunar cypress
the haskell jerk is nothing against prolog or apl
lunar cypress
those languages are waaay more out there
old wyvern
Great Sir Simon will never forgive us
distant sun
Thats used by java users as well
Weird java users you mean
old wyvern
Kim Jong-sx would say otherwise
onyx loom
๐
prisma wave
I'm learning it right now and the thought of the language circlejerk here gettin...
I don't think I could circlejerk APL
It looks too confusing
lunar cypress
oh you absolutely could
old wyvern
๐ณ
obtuse gale
It looks too confusing
cough๐คก
lunar cypress
"who needs pure functions when you have arrays?"
afaik everything is pure
prisma wave
Even better
Prolog jerking also sounds incredible
Do people still use the original lisp?
Or did you mean common lisp / scheme or something
lunar cypress
idk about yugi but I mean any lisp
old wyvern
Im starting with racket I think
mostly just because thats what the course on coursera offers
lunar cypress
yeah I think racket is often used for education
prisma wave
nice
old wyvern
I see
prisma wave
I was saying earlier I wanna learn some more clojure
lunar cypress
very reasonable
prisma wave
lisp code looks very elegant
gusty glen
I saw that java 16 broke some reflection things (I think it disallowed access to private fields), does this restriction also applies to method handles, or only default reflection?
old wyvern
It disallows access to non-public members of modules that dont export those, for both
obtuse gale
Yeah it doesn't quite "break reflection", it just enforces the modules system strongly
That is not an issue say for example accessing craftbukkit or nms fields/classes/methods (there is no modules system there, everything is open), but now you can't get say the seed field from a SplittableRandom, since the class is not exported/opened
gusty glen
Yeah it doesn't quite "break reflection", it just enforces the modules system st...
Sorry, I'm not very acquainted with the modules system, would you mind please explain me what is it?
obtuse gale
a huge pile of horseshit
that's what it is
you essentially have way finer control over what classes and packages other applications have access to your binaries
oak coyote
Think voodoo magic that went wrong
obtuse gale
like sure it's a great idea because it's enforced at runtime so you can't tamper with things you're not supposed to tamper with
but uuugh
static zealot
man this laptop really hates me ๐ฅฒ It opens IJ and it loads the project (in like 10 minutes) and when I go to finally work on it, it just crashes every single app that is open
half harness
๐ฅถ
obtuse gale
no thx
half harness
๐ณ
gusty glen
man this laptop really hates me ๐ฅฒ It opens IJ and it loads the project (in like...
what is your OS, RAM (amount), and CPU (model)?
static zealot
btw someone that actually read the new snapshot update (java 16 won't be a requirement right? just added support for it?)
bcz Star told someone java 16 will be a requirement to even use MC 1.17 but I'm pretty sure it won't
static zealot
what is your OS, RAM (amount), and CPU (model)?
they're all bad I know xD
Windows, 8 GB 776 MHz, I5-4460K I thjink
onyx loom
bcz Star told someone java 16 will be a requirement to even use MC 1.17 but I'm ...
java version?
static zealot
I can't open speccy rn
half harness
Windows, 8 GB 776 MHz, I5-4460K I thjink
wasn't it Intel Core i5-4288U 2.60 GHz (2 cores)
8 GB of DDR3 788 Mhz
2GB Nvidia GeForce 920MX
931 GB Seagate ST1000LM035-1RK172
half harness
lol
static zealot
I just said those out of my head. I can't remember them lmao
I use speccy usually but now I can't even open it
to see the specs
onyx loom
doesnt mc shade the java version?
half harness
smh can't even remember your own specs
static zealot
doesnt mc shade the java version?
hmm Idk. but he made it sound like you need java 16 to run the server jar.
not the client
and I'm pretty sure the update has to do with the client
half harness
hmm Idk. but he made it sound like you need java 16 to run the server jar.
time to never update ๐
static zealot
omg it opened the file now in IJ. time to see if it will let me edit xD
pale shell
is it bad i still run IntelliJ 2020.1?
static zealot
it does let me edit it
half harness
is it bad i still run IntelliJ 2020.1?
i guess
static zealot
is it bad i still run IntelliJ 2020.1?
I mean if you don't need the updates no. but idk why you wouldn't run the latest
pale shell
in my eyes, it still works so there's 0 reasons to upgrade.
half harness
code with me - even though it sucks for java/kt
half harness
code with me is actually really good, but the jetbrains IDE for it is so badddd
at least for java/kotlin
pale shell
i wish i was good at coding tho. lol.
half harness
i had to manually import ๐ฉ
static zealot
code with me is actually really good, but the jetbrains IDE for it is so badddd
imagine having Ultimate edition xD
half harness
typing it all out
pale shell
I'm so fucking dumb.
half harness
;-;
static zealot
oh is code with me paid?
pretty sure its Ultimate edition only
static zealot
but
pale shell
"why's the event not working?" You know you gotta call the event when you do stuff? smh.
half harness
gg ๐
half harness
so I can fix my bot
use my lib 
/s
pale shell
your lib?
pale shell
๐ฎ
pale shell
OdinLib soon? 
forest pecan
wtf is that repo name
half harness
lol
forest pecan
Yeah
half harness
it used to just be util classes
half harness
like nobody's gonna remember that
nobody uses it D:
static zealot
https://github.com/dkim19375/dkim19375JDAUtils
I just use JDA + JDAUtils from jagrosh. I'm fine with what those offer
but thanks
pale shell
It makes me sad when peoples work isn't being used ๐ญ
half harness
I just use JDA + JDAUtils from jagrosh. I'm fine with what those offer
i put a /s ._. because it's in kotlin anyways
obtuse gale
dkim19375CoreJDAUtilsExpansionsLoader
static zealot
i put a /s ._. because it's in kotlin anyways
I didn't even see the /s xD
half harness
still weird af
lol
obtuse gale
yeah that's not a memorable name tbh
half harness
I didn't even see the `/s` xD
lol
half harness
yeah that's not a memorable name tbh
emilyy19375CoreJDAUtilsFunctions
half harness
ez
obtuse gale
emilyy19375CoreJDAUtilsFunctions
nah just EmmyLib and period
half harness
nah just EmmyLib and period
EmmyLibJDA
obtuse gale
EmmyLibJDA
it would be part of the same lib, not a different repo but as a separate artifact
half harness
unlike every other JDA lib i have my own getPrefix method with a guild id parameter so you can have per guild prefixes ๐ค
onyx loom
https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-water-fall-gif-16327653
has this quenched your thirst now
half harness
pulse face reveal
static zealot
I'm so lazy that instead of actually making a config file for my discord bot to store tokens and stuff like that I just made a settings object class .... please send help. Now I want to commit suicide on a pigeon
someone please give me Matt's repository link and implementation for Matt-Config. If I open the browser everything will crash
prisma wave
๐คจ
half harness
someone please give me Matt's repository link and implementation for Matt-Config...
ok
half harness
implementation 'me.mattstudios:triumph-config:1.0.5-SNAPSHOT'
and repo link too please
half harness
maven { url = 'https://repo.mattstudios.me/artifactory/public' }
ty ty ty
obtuse gale
maven("https://repo.mattstudios.me/artifactory/public") ๐
half harness
is it java or kotlin
half harness
open source?
static zealot
nope
half harness
smh
half harness
๐ฅฒ
static zealot
but discord found it in like seconds
and changed it for my bot
but I also leaked like 3 of those links
whit which you can send embeds
I forgot the name of them
heady birch
webhook
half harness
static zealot
well anyways when I'll finally add a config file to it maybe I'll make it OS but its like not made for any discord server xD
its super specific
half harness
well anyways when I'll finally add a config file to it maybe I'll make it OS but...
well my private bot is OS too
๐คท
static zealot
I mean at this point, what even is the point of OSing? No one will even critique it or PR to it
heady birch
Qbasic
half harness
I mean at this point, what even is the point of OSing? No one will even critique...
i was going to bully your code ๐
static zealot
well there's like 4 projects I have and its been now 3 weeks since matt said he'll bully my code for the dev role ... xD
heady birch
gusty glen
what's the point of that
heady birch
๐ฆ
half harness
ffs zoom windows have gotten even smaller, now all the words don't even show
lol
zoom has to fix that
gusty glen
next update client will have 1px width
half harness
winkey + up arrow = life savior
gusty glen
fix my config lib
half harness
contribute to my bedwars plugin /s
heady birch
food calculator
jovial warren
HelpChat OS?
static zealot
discord crashed again... how nice
gusty glen
discord crashed again... how nice
this smells like corrupted OS blitz
gusty glen
might be. idk what to do about it tho
try reinstalling windows
obtuse gale
I mean at this point, what even is the point of OSing? No one will even critique...
You can do really meaningful projects, known by hundreds upon hundreds of thousands, more than a million people and still get absurdly low PRs and critiques on the code itself, LuckPerms is probably the most explicit example for this.. just look at it https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/graphs/contributors it's beyond absurd
pale shell
Why does 11 characters of code have to cause so much issues? ๐
I hate myself.
static zealot
You can do really meaningful projects, known by hundreds upon hundreds of thousa...
yeah. that's exactly why I'm saying: what even is the point?
heady birch
because its not rust?
gusty glen
You can do really meaningful projects, known by hundreds upon hundreds of thousa...
Lucko be like ๐ฅฒ ||killme||
heady birch
fn main() {
println!("Hello!");
}
static zealot
when every fuction name is taken (function, func, fun) and you have to use fn instead
hot hull
Who's this dumbass
jovial warren
I can see the argument of why open-source
The reason why there is a lack of contributions to open-source is because people can't be bothered
Most contributions come from people wanting a specific feature that will benefit them
Because this is how human beings are
gusty glen
The reason why there is a lack of contributions to open-source is because people...
imagine you spending hours comprehending the code, making a new feature, and the owner be like "nah, I don't like it", and reject your PR
obtuse gale
#development for support
hazy widget
oh sorry
distant sun
The reason why there is a lack of contributions to open-source is because people...
True
hot hull
Who
static zealot
Well I guess my windows problems are just a corrupted update ๐ฅฒ
prisma wave
It's obvious from the context
The point is that this is actual type inference. It's no different to having something like read<Int>("3") in kotlin, except it can infer the Int part from anywhere in the code
main = do
input <- readLn
someFunctionThatTakesAnInt input
input is inferred to be an Int, so it's parsed as an Int
ocean quartz
That's fair, though does it only infere with typing thw number or would it work with uncertain variables too? Because with those it'd definitely not be obvious
But then again I don't know the language I can't tell much of what's happening
prisma wave
That's fair, though does it only infere with typing thw number or would it work ...
wdym?
it can infer any type that's an instance of Read (i.e it defines functions to parse it)
not just numbers
If you tried to treat it as something that didn't implement Read (like a function), it won't compile
ocean quartz
Oh okay
lunar cypress
and without dynamic typing
prisma wave
kotlin type inference: "please love me sir, i can infer the type of a variable by copy pasting the function's return type ๐ ๐ฅบ ๐ "
haskell type inference: "you will never need to write a type signature ever again now get on your knees and profess your love for simon ๐ ๐ช"
static zealot
I think my pc is finally back ๐
heady birch
pc is not back until you are running linux
prisma wave
"babe, time for your monthly GHC reinstall!"
oak raft
why aren't there kotlin discord bot tutorials ๐ฆ
static zealot
pc is not back until you are running linux
well that's not back anymore. Being back means going to something it was before.
in this case its working
All I had to do is uninstall a corrupted windows update
static zealot
I was thinking of dual booting for quite a while but idk.
pale shell
I worked out a way to stop people from being able to get too far too quick https://i.imgur.com/rykNqoQ.png ๐ฅฒ
pale shell
yes
static zealot
Just put a bit of thinking into your economy
and believe me it will be a lot better
pale shell
trust me, they'll prefer it that way.
static zealot
I used to have shops and stuff like that that just had huge prices just so people can't abuse them but then I hit the Integer limit (for vault) so I had to do something else
and believe me when you see the richest people have like 100k
its so nice
pale shell
Blitz, I asked the players what they wanted this is what they wanted.
static zealot
there are a few way to rich people with like 500K- 1M but those are like 6-7 and make like 10% of the economy xD
half harness
why aren't there kotlin discord bot tutorials ๐ฆ
oof
static zealot
Blitz, I asked the players what they wanted this is what they wanted.
yeah I understand that. people are stupid. If they have 100000Mil they feel rich when you could actually farm those money in 2 days
@half harness did u see? My pc is back to normal
static zealot
it was a bad windows update
half harness
<@!521485088995672084> did u see? My pc is back to normal
๐ฎ
static zealot
it feels so good to finally be able to fix bugs lmao
half harness
howd u learn
uhhh i dont remember ;-;
1 sec
lemme look in message history
i remember when i hated on kotlin so much ๐ฅฒ
static zealot
I learnt kotlin from the docs mostly
docs.kotlinlang.org I think
and help from #development
when I got stuck
also a lot of stackoverflow xD
half harness
my way of learning languages is weird
static zealot
why?
distant sun
@pale shell btw Big numbers use ram based on their size
half harness
for java, i just learned from spigot youtube tutorials and then just from making plugins and asking from #development
for kotlin, I just learned by making plugins and #development
I did not take any courses, except for the java sololearn course I took like 2 weeks ago just to see how much I knew (i already knew everything it said in there lol)
distant sun
I read somewhere that one big number could require a machine on it own just to create it
static zealot
courses are great man. And I found such a nice course on the website yugi gave me but I was to lazy to take it while it was free and now I regret my decisions
static zealot
pluralsight or something like that was the website and was free for april
half harness
oh
static zealot
its 29$ per month ...
half harness
xD
static zealot
tho I can get the 10 day free trial and maybe finish it but like that course was long man and good
I've only watched like 2 hours but it was pretty good
prisma wave
sololearn has no haskell
who needs sololearn when you have bristermitten
prisma wave
why
half harness
oof
static zealot
wtf
someone join Room2 and tell me if they can hear Rythm please
@half harness ^^^
oh nvm
found the problem
static zealot
its fine. it was just my pc being bad again. had to select the output in discord settings
oak raft
sololearn has no haskell
Or kotlin
oak raft
WUT
oak raft
๐คฉ
half harness
wot
oak raft
I missed it
half harness
<@!521485088995672084> didn't you tell me to never use `!!`?
that's because it's a test, readLine() returns a String?, but since it knows 100% it's not null, you can use !!, although if you're writing it in a program, you should do like if (a == null) println("Blah blah blah")
oak raft
That's an example from sololearn
ocean quartz
that's because it's a test, readLine() returns a `String?`, but since it knows 1...
readLine()?.toInt() ?: return
prisma wave
readMaybe <$> getLine
static zealot
Guess who's laptop just crashed 
oak raft
Whos?
static zealot
Mine...
static zealot
What?
oak raft
Yeah
oak raft
Crashing? ๐คฃ
steel heart
Do objects by default use System.identityHashCode?
prisma wave
I think so yeah
half harness
is there a way to make Code With Me have better java/kotlin support? Alt + Enter doesn't have any some of the quick fixes, such as importing and implementing interfaces/abstract methods
and it's quite annoying, manually typing all of the stuff ;-;
also some of the theme plugins such as material theme ui and atom file icons didn't work correctly
pale shell
When you accidentally press build when you didn't mean to and it takes like 2 minutes to do ๐ฆ
half harness
When you accidentally press build when you didn't mean to and it takes like 2 mi...
something called a stop button๐คฆ
pale shell
that exists?
pale shell
oh ye LOL
half harness
its a red square
pale shell
I never noticed that
pale shell
I dont get an X
half harness
i can't show rn
pale shell
you mean to the left?
half harness
idk
pale shell
obtuse gale
That doesn't look like it's running
pale shell
that's the same as whats at the top lol
half harness
i can't explain it
obtuse gale
I mean you can also take a screenshot of the whole fucking screen and we pinpoint whatever you need to click
But okay
Not here to play guessing games
half harness
theres a tiny x
obtuse gale
I mean it's not even running lmao but yeah
pale shell
that closes the tab
obtuse gale
And it kills the process if it's running
half harness
it needs to be running
pale shell
obtuse gale
There we go
obtuse gale
Or after lmao
pale shell
that just closes the tab
obtuse gale
If it gets done it gets done, nothing wrong with that
obtuse gale
that just closes the tab
And it kills the process if it's running
half harness
that just closes the tab
for me it shows a popup ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
ocean quartz
now press the x
To doubt
pale shell
I've seen that before but idk how i did it before
obtuse gale
Well you probably checked "Don't ask again" lmao
pale shell
oh
surreal quarry
yea that
half harness
is there a way to make Code With Me have better java/kotlin support? Alt + Enter doesn't have any some of the quick fixes, such as importing and implementing interfaces/abstract methods
and it's quite annoying, manually typing all of the stuff ;-;
also some of the theme plugins such as material theme ui and atom file icons didn't work correctly
surreal quarry
yes. down up up left jump x2 left left up usually fixes it
half harness
uh
ocean quartz
> is there a way to make Code With Me have better java/kotlin support? Alt + Ent...
Never had any issues you had when I tried it, Material UI, alt + enter, etc
onyx loom
lol bad pc
ocean quartz
I mean, what else would it be? lol
ocean quartz
We're talking about code with me, so it has to be that lol
half harness
anything i can do to try fixing it?
obtuse gale
yeah get a better pc
half harness
whys there a big blurry weather thing on my taskbar now 
half harness
how do i disable?
static zealot
or the new discord update did
from taskbar settings
I mean windows
not discord btw
half harness
oh
static zealot
something's wrong with me today
half harness
yea i updated windows last night
static zealot
I keep saying random words that make no sense in the sentence lmao
obtuse gale
lol
half harness
i wouldn't mind if it wasnt so blurry and big tho
looks like someone just stretched and upscaled the image
static zealot
so right click taskbar
and select taskbar settings
and somewhere in there you'll find this: https://i.imgur.com/DYqBwe7.png
half harness
uh
static zealot
actually it might be in the first one as well
static zealot
wait does it come with the clock actually?
I would have assumed it has its own icon
static zealot
https://i.imgur.com/N6SBWeC.png
where even is that? I don't have that. Might just be the new update I guess
ocean quartz
Huh, interesting
half harness
wat
obtuse gale
yeah what the fuck
the non static variables are part of the record components
I mean they are entirely different concepts from what I've heard
prisma wave
Huh, interesting
i think they might be planning to add a specific copy syntax in the future, sorta like haskell has (hs let copy = someRecordValue { field = newValue }
ocean quartz
I mean they are entirely different concepts from what I've heard
They are pretty similar though
Aso @half harness
In short? Weโre making our stickers a Nitro exclusive, and servers will be able to upload custom stickers with Boosting.
Ha
prisma wave
o that's cool
half harness
NOOO
obtuse gale
good good
half harness
๐ฉ ๐ซ ๐ญ
obtuse gale
yuss
ocean quartz
Ikr
half harness
tranquil crane
rip your stickers
onyx loom
or get nitro
half harness
discord whyyyyy
ocean quartz
Nooo noo, he spams them too much
onyx loom
and boost the server while ur here ๐
ocean quartz
Back in the records topic, i wonder what would happen if you do
@JvmRecord
data class Data(val something: String) {
var nonConstructor = "test"
}
Will the var turn into static?
half harness
no i shall boost dkim den
boreal needle
did anyone ever use stickers tho
obtuse gale
did anyone ever use stickers tho
dkim every single day yes
half harness
they're just spam tho
;-; ๐
boreal needle
they do feel kinda pointless with animated emojis
half harness
obtuse gale
they do feel kinda pointless with animated emojis
as it is being said with the new design choices:
it appeals to younger audiences
they are literally for kids
stickers I mean
static zealot
@pallid gale how did you get the time that's displayed at the bottom of =help? Bcz I assume its not just new Date() since its user time not system time.
=help
oak cypressBOT
@static zealot, Help menu!
compact perchBOT
Help Menu:
static zealot
talking about this one btw ^^^
obtuse gale
@Thank You Blitz!, Help menu!
static zealot
yeah very lovely xd
half harness
<@!161022752923320320> how did you get the time that's displayed at the bottom ...
I just use Instant.now(), might be that ๐คท
also barry is coded in JS
static zealot
yes I know
static zealot
23:02
half harness
and ur in dkim den
static zealot
yes
ocean quartz
obtuse gale
ok
static zealot
ty @half harness
half harness
np
half harness
embedBuilder.setTimestamp(Instant.now())
static zealot
ah that one. yeah ty
half harness
static zealot
I was just setting it as a footer
half harness
XD
jovial warren
Ayy, smart compiler
somehow that's reminded me that I might actually bump the JVM target to 16 on Krypton because vanilla bumped to 16
static zealot
on discord, the line separator is always \n? Or could it be \r\n?
half harness
what is \r?
static zealot
like where is it decided what it is? The user that sends the message or the discord server?
static zealot
what is \r?
\r\n is line separator for Windows machines
static zealot
well yeah that's what I use and so far it has worked and I assume its just bcz discord servers are using an UNIX system. I could also just check if it contains \r\n or just \n I guess
but I'll just leave it as \n for now
prisma wave
\r is carriage return
half harness
what is that?
\r\nis a **Windows **Style
\nis a **POSIX **Style
\ris a old pre-OS X Macs Style, Modern Mac's using **POSIX **Style.
\n means new line. It means that the cursor must go to the next line.
\r means carriage return. It means that the cursor should go back to the beginning of the line.
ic
why does windows need /r ;-;
ocean quartz
Blame Bill
half harness
lol
obtuse gale
They are pretty similar though
On the topic of the definition of records, they may be similar to data classes in terms of usage, but:
[Records] are classes that act as transparent carriers for immutable data. Records can be thought of as nominal tuples.
The declaration of a record class primarily consists of a declaration of its state
A record class is implicitly final, and cannot be abstract. These restrictions emphasize that the API of a record class is defined solely by its state description
The fields derived from the record components are final. This restriction embodies an immutable by default policy that is widely applicable for data-carrier classes
A record class cannot explicitly declare instance fields, and cannot contain instance initializers. These restrictions ensure that the record header alone defines the state of a record value.
If a record class is itself nested, then it is implicitly static; this avoids an immediately enclosing instance which would silently add state to the record class.
Hopefully you're seeing a pattern here xD
Unlike kt's data classes, records are meant* to be and carry immutable data (not only "read-only references") and that defines the whole state of the record object, whereas kt
* I say "meant" because nothing is stopping you from passing a mutable data structure, but that's not really their design goal
old wyvern
๐ฅฒ
ocean quartz
On the topic of the definition of records, they may be similar to data classes i...
Oh yeah i knew that, was just pointing out their similarities and differences
static zealot
is there any method that checks if a string is a valid url by any chance?
as in its url or not
half harness
๐คฃ
obtuse gale
llol
static zealot
if I have a try catch and all I do in catch is print the stacktrace does it behave any differently than just not trying at all?
half harness
if I have a try catch and all I do in catch is print the stacktrace does it beha...
throwing stops the code
half harness
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
half harness
is there no way to automatically generate javadocs ;-;
no more generate javadocs options
oh wait
this is kotlin
how do i generate KDocs
ocean quartz
/** + enter?
forest pecan
do people know about discordo
half harness
yes
jovial warren
https://i.imgur.com/wWudrOJ.png never thought I'd see a Yoda condition in vanilla code lol
obtuse gale
Yoda... condition?
onyx loom
condition yoda
prisma wave
condition deez nuts
๐คฃ ๐คฃ ๐คฃ ๐คฃ
I can pick up my comedy award any time tomorrow, thank you
Or you can get it delivered (first class ofc)
lunar cypress
๐คจ
gusty glen
https://i.imgur.com/wWudrOJ.png never thought I'd see a Yoda condition in vanill...
if(var_5 > 0 && var_5 < trace.length)
if(var_5 in 1 until trace.length) // only works if var_5 is int``` Why not 3rd class
prisma wave
Too slow
coarse zenith
Could i get a bit of help?
pale shell
Could i get a bit of help?
What's up
sweet cipher
How would I receive input from html/JavaScript and use it in Java?
pale shell
(pls don't say the ceiling)
coarse zenith
So im trying to add a DM menu
pale shell
How would I receive input from html/JavaScript and use it in Java?
Is that even possible?
coarse zenith
tand continue to get a internal error
sweet cipher
Is that even possible?
Not sure, I saw something about servlets?
pale shell
Not sure, I saw something about servlets?
Wot
prisma wave
Slow <:thinksmart:497966651623604225>
Faster than java in many cases ๐คฃ
pale shell
Faster than java in many cases ๐คฃ
But java isn't as over complexed as haskell
Idk how you don't see how it's overcomplexd
You could do a lot of it in kotlin and it'll look far better and likely run faster.
prisma wave
I don't know why you keep repeating these claims even though literally everyone here has said they're wrong
I mean, I know it's bait but if you're trying to be funny it's getting really stale
pale shell
I'm not trying to be funny
prisma wave
and if you're serious, then you clearly know nothing
pale shell
I'm speaking my own mind.
obtuse gale
You could do a lot of it in kotlin and it'll look far better and likely run fast...
and likely run faster
uhm...
pale shell
Its a completely overcomplexd language it couldve been shortened down a ton.
prisma wave
I am all for a nice bit of circlejerking but what you're saying is just plain wrong...
prisma wave
Its a completely overcomplexd language it couldve been shortened down a ton.
conciseness != Complexity lmao
pale shell
I prefer to use a language like kotlin where its actually easier to understand what's going on.
obtuse gale
so is haskell once you learn it???
pale shell
Even if I "learnt" haskell I'd drop it after a month or two.
obtuse gale
so is literally every other language?
prisma wave
that sounds like a you problem
pale shell
I prefer to use languages I would like
prisma wave
Sheesh, I mean if you wanna join the "haskell bad" trend then at least make an actual point
This is just embarrassing
pale shell
Yeah, the language is embarrassing.
obtuse gale
odin you're a straight up ignorant person
pale shell
Okay?
You think I'm bothered by what you think of me? No, you've had a grudge against me since I joined back to this server.
prisma wave
๐คจ
onyx loom
๐
prisma wave
have you considered that people may get mildly annoyed when you repeat the same dumb claim that we've disproved multiple times
that's not a grudge
It's just annoying
And makes you look dumb
obtuse gale
you've had a grudge against me since I joined back to this server.
not true, for once I never knew who the fuck you were so I had absolutely 0 opinion "since you joined back" and secondly I'm just saying these things now because everything about it you're saying is straight up false
I don't like haskell either on a surface level but that doesn't mean it's embarrassing or useless or an esoteric language or anything
I have yet to try the language for many weeks to conclude if I really like it or not
pale shell
Haskell is just an experimental language
prisma wave
honestly who cares
prisma wave
Haskell is just an experimental language
okay you're taking the piss
I refuse to believe you're not joking
If you aren't
๐ฅถ
onyx loom
the only experimental language around here is elara ๐
prisma wave
Too soon
pale shell
Haskell has a lot less documentation than java.
prisma wave
bruh
onyx loom
โป๏ธ
prisma wave
You said the exact same thing a few days ago
And literally everyone said you were wrong
pale shell
The tools are limited, the libraries qualities isn't as good as java or kotlin.
prisma wave
evidence?
prisma wave
1990 i believe
onyx loom
๐
prisma wave
It was in development for a while tho
onyx loom
in that case older than java
prisma wave
The tools are limited, the libraries qualities isn't as good as java or kotlin.
sounds like a bunch of buzzwords
older than python too
obtuse gale
sounds like a bunch of buzzwords
speaking of buzz
how'd you do fizzbuzz in haskell ๐
pale shell
I guess it's more towards maths people right?
obtuse gale
I haven't actually
pale shell
From what I've heard, haskell is leaned towards people who know maths.
prisma wave
I guess it's more towards maths people right?
I guess? Not so much now
It's not like matlab or anything, but a lot of the ideas are inspired by mathematical concepts
prisma wave
https://gist.github.com/nrinaudo/b02d0d17f62b6babea60cb0b52ded287
How much of that do you actually understand
pale shell
A bit of it.
But I'm a dumb person (according to HC) so I wouldn't understand much of it.
obtuse gale
and according to yourself
there is not a single day you don't demean yourself
not once but one too many times a day
prisma wave
If you don't want to be seen as dumb then don't make blatantly false points that you know are false
obtuse gale
why do you treat yourself like this
pale shell
Because I don't care about myself or what people think about me anymore? I got nothing else to care about anymore.
sweet cipher
While everyone is here:
#dev-general message
prisma wave
How would I receive input from html/JavaScript and use it in Java?
Context?
sweet cipher
Yes
prisma wave
thanks
sweet cipher
One sec
ocean quartz
You're welcome
pale shell
I mean, I'll likely be 6ft under by the time bm finishes college.
prisma wave
classic #dev-general
pale shell
Just saying the truth.
coarse zenith
anyone able to help in #general-plugins
sweet cipher
Itโs more of a general question, just like if I want to like get input from a person and store that data in a database, or do something else? Or should I just do that in a different language?
coarse zenith
so non-helpful devs i see. Perfect.
prisma wave
let's go #development
sweet cipher
Ok
obtuse gale
so non-helpful devs i see. Perfect.
that's what #general-plugins is for
not #dev-general
pale shell
I want to change as a person.
coarse zenith
Yes but youd think devs would be bale to look at that for 2 seconds and lmk whats up XD
pale shell
I don't know how.
prisma wave
๐
pale shell
Look, I hate it when Chris takes over.
pale shell
Haskell August / September.
coarse zenith
and the hell with "support in training" XD
ocean quartz
Yes but youd think devs would be bale to look at that for 2 seconds and lmk what...
If it was coding related, or if it was the dev's own plugin, other people's plugins is different, be patient someone will help you, no need to ping anyone or ask in other channels
obtuse gale
no but for real though, the mere fact you are aware you want to change something for good is a great sign
you care
pale shell
I don't want to be where my friend is now.
obtuse gale
may I ask where that is?
prisma wave
and the hell with "support in training" XD
Man you don't gotta be toxic, none of us really play the game anymore, let alone know enough about plugins to help.
Just ask in the right channel (where people who actually know the answer will be looking), and be patient
obtuse gale
none of us really play the game anymore
mood
pale shell
Man you don't gotta be toxic, none of us really play the game anymore, let alone...
This cool guy here doesn't play but I pay him 
ocean quartz
prisma wave
no
pale shell
Bm gets paid almost daily lol.
pale shell
I paid you yesterday no?
prisma wave
that's not what daily means
prisma wave
you seem to do that quite often
onyx loom
๐คจ
prisma wave
๐คจ
obtuse gale
How many people can I ping at once max?
pale shell
1
half harness
How many people can I ping at once max?
ah, we've tested this before
costed a mute tho ๐ฅฒ
obtuse gale
lol
pale shell
A mute?
half harness
yea
pale shell
How can I do it
prisma wave
How many people can I ping at once max?
At least 3
half harness
if u ping too many ppl at once u get muted
ocean quartz
How many people can I ping at once max?
5 I think
pale shell
Can I test it pls
ocean quartz
Can I test it pls
I'm not gonna ask to unmute you
pale shell
How long is mute
prisma wave
I am sure "support in training" role is exempt from any "anti spam"
half harness
isnt it perm
pale shell
It's perm???
half harness
I am sure "support in training" role is exempt from any "anti spam"
test?
prisma wave
scared
half harness
?tryandsee
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
pale shell
Alright who am I muting
half harness
bm dont actually btw
pale shell
I wanna get muted
prisma wave
the muted channel is a scary place
pale shell
There's a muted channel??
half harness
the muted channel is a scary place
ah ive been there twice
the first time i have no idea why
prisma wave
sigh
half harness
why
pale shell
5?
half harness
do 4 ppl first if ur actually oging to
obtuse gale
muted for deleting your own messages
pls implement in DD
prisma wave
yes
pale shell
See you lot on the other side
prisma wave
pls implement in DD
PR or shut up
half harness
hA
pale shell
It didn't work
half harness
yea
pale shell
:(
half harness
its 5 ppl
pale shell
Oh
obtuse gale
okay 4 is safe
obtuse gale
good enough for me
half harness
it
pale shell
Send it?
half harness
do you have piggy on ur friends list
obtuse gale
@prisma wave @old wyvern @ocean quartz @forest pecan Never shade again!! https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/bukkit/commits/146a7e4bd764990c56bb326643e92eb69f24d27e
half harness
๐ฅฒ
pale shell
No
half harness
<@!266973575225933824> <@!235475470806679554> <@!180369172046413824> <@!34700561...
except that you can't define repositories ;-;
obtuse gale
yet
pale shell
See fall on the other side
ocean quartz
It's a long needed feature
pale shell
Ya'll *
obtuse gale
look at the comment in LibraryLoader
half harness
wait does it use like MavenCentral or smth?
prisma wave
<@!266973575225933824> <@!235475470806679554> <@!180369172046413824> <@!34700561...
I am going to beat md_5 to death
half harness
@pale shell
onyx loom
nice
ocean quartz
sigh I warned him
prisma wave
I am sure that was worth the 30 seconds of attention
onyx loom
ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
half harness
hes not even on piggy's friends list
sweet cipher
I can't believe I'm muted
onyx loom
๐คจ
ocean quartz
This man is committing files in Allman while the entire project is in K&R
half harness
lol
prisma wave
so noble
onyx loom
what a brave man
half harness
who?
onyx loom
noble cause
prisma wave
he doesn't conform to society's view of "K&R good"
onyx loom
๐
obtuse gale
This man is committing files in Allman while the entire project is in K&R
also can we just appreciate his own inconsistency in styling?
spaces around parenthesis
onyx loom
"easier readability"
sweet cipher
That is beautiful
ocean quartz
It's art
prisma wave
no final smh
sweet cipher
Does anyone here use the format
public void doNothing()
{
}
```?Time to PR SlimJar into Spigot
onyx loom
yes
sweet cipher
Why?
onyx loom
allman GOOD
prisma wave
allman GOOD
sweet cipher
What is allman?
half harness
What is allman?
bad
onyx loom
allman is that code style
sweet cipher
Oh
onyx loom
๐
obtuse gale
Time to PR SlimJar into Spigot
lol
prisma wave
should really be using Haskell brace style
obtuse gale
should really be using Haskell brace style
sorry but I have to point out you misleadingly appended " brace style" to your sentence
forest pecan
<@!266973575225933824> <@!235475470806679554> <@!180369172046413824> <@!34700561...
wait yo
im confused
what does this do again
obtuse gale
Hi confused
forest pecan
lol
prisma wave
while (true)
{ var x = y()
; var z = List.of(3, x)
; }
:relieved:
obtuse gale
I'm Emily
forest pecan
tell me
obtuse gale
what does this do again
basically you define libraries up in central in your plugin.yml
prisma wave
sorry but I have to point out you misleadingly appended " brace style" to your s...
Sorry my mistake! I will not let that happen again
forest pecan
damn
onyx loom
```java
while (true)
{ var x = y()
; var z = List.of(3, x)
; }
```
:...
"while true" loop in haskell
prisma wave
it's like PDM but bad / actually works
half harness
```java
while (true)
{ var x = y()
; var z = List.of(3, x)
; }
```
:...
main = do
{ print 5
; print 10
; print 20
; }
``` ๐UUUUUUUUU
obtuse gale
PROUD CONTRIBUTOR with OVER 1.3k lines ๐
forest pecan
i had to do it
prisma wave
```hs
main = do
{ print 5
; print 10
; print 20
; }
``` ๐
main = print 5 >> print 10 >> print 20
:relieved:
obtuse gale
```hs
main = print 5 >> print 10 >> print 20
```
:relieved:
oh hey that reminds me of C++ ๐ฅฒ
<< brrrrrr
prisma wave
C++ Bad tho
onyx loom
is my phone tripping or did odin leave after he got muted
obtuse gale
C++ Bad tho
rot in hell
prisma wave
is my phone tripping or did odin leave after he got muted
welp
That didn't take long
obtuse gale
yeah lmao
onyx loom
usual
obtuse gale
for once
I'm still waiting for that "separate items and blocks materials into individual registries" thing you mentioned
prisma wave
separate deez nuts
obtuse gale
that sounds painful
prisma wave
indeed
half harness
no