yeah that'd be great
#dev-general
pale shell
=remindme
compact perchBOT
static zealot
I spent like 5 hours on it and couldn't get it to work just so you know
static zealot
=remindme 1d "Remind Odin to do that"
compact perchBOT
pale shell
No not good
static zealot
oh ?
pale shell
1d bad
Just slide it into my dms
I won't forget then
I am doing 50 plugins at once
half harness
=remindme 1d "Remind Odin to do that"
=remindme 1d "Remind Blitz to remind odin to do that"
compact perchBOT
pale shell
Ty I got blitz
static zealot
=remindme 1d "Remind Blitz to remind odin to do that"
no thanks I don't want a reminder
half harness
no thanks I don't want a reminder
too bad
static zealot
I am doing 50 plugins at once
🥲. Last week I was literally working on 5 plugins. Then I had to stop after doing like 3 of them bcz this fake players plugin doesn't allow FPlayers to attack other players
and I need them to kill each other
static zealot
🥲
half harness
pale shell
Blitz can I mention server names?
half harness
sEVENTy fIVE
static zealot
ye
pale shell
I was gonna apply for mc prison
I could bypass the app process tbh I know the owner lol
steel heart
Lol
pale shell
The dev role earns about $2,500 a month
steel heart
Dkim pro moment
half harness
Dkim pro moment
D::
pale shell
5/7?
static zealot
5 days a week
steel heart
pale shell
Where did I go wrong
steel heart
How a developers life should be tbf
forest pecan
did you get rejected
static zealot
I found it @half harness https://i.imgur.com/gf94vVb.png
half harness
lol
static zealot
now time to see if its as easy as removing those 2 lines xD
obtuse gale
it probably isn't
static zealot
yeah I assume so
pale shell
did you get rejected
I didn't get anything
I wouldn't be rejected because my code is perfect.
static zealot
well actually 3 lines
obtuse gale
you know blitz, it would've helped if you showed the contextual bytecode + decompiled view lmao
obtuse gale
lol
static zealot
yeah it didn't work 😢 https://i.imgur.com/kJEqQ3m.png
well time to learn how the fuck bytecode works
pale shell
lol
static zealot
I actually need to go and change the lines for each and every thing after? well shit
pale shell
I just realised, if someone was to go onto one of my accounts linked to my discord you can work out where I live. Oh well.
static zealot
I just realised, if someone was to go onto one of my accounts linked to my disco...
time to stalk
static zealot
oh
pale shell
I'm worried why you said oh, idk if you saw the reddit side of me or what 🥲
pale shell
Oh
pale shell
I had more 
pale shell
Idk
pale shell
?
static zealot
is that actually your account?
oh nvm
I thought you have 4k followers xD
but those are "following"
well I know how to read
pale shell
lol
static zealot
wait I did it !!! https://i.imgur.com/7NsDGf4.png
pale shell
Oh god no
static zealot
now it checks if its AbstractArrow
instead of player
that works
as well I guess
time to see if it actually starts xD
pale shell
OH GOD NO
static zealot
huh ?
pale shell
org.bukkit.entity.AbstractArrow 🤮
obtuse gale
????
static zealot
well I mean I did it in bytecode and I forgot to import
xD
so that works as well
pale shell
Why not just instanceof AbstractArrow ??
static zealot
bcz I didn't import
pale shell
Smh
pale shell
Bad
static zealot
well not really ?
obtuse gale
that's how bytecode works lol
static zealot
^^
obtuse gale
static imports have nothing to do with that?
static imports is to "import" static methods/fields
pale shell
I'm going for 1000hrs lol.
pale shell
not to say that's decompiled code
OS 
static zealot
you don't understand what just happened do you?
pale shell
I don't even know what day it is.
static zealot
I just modified the bytecode for FakePlayers to block attack to Arrows instead of Player and then checked the jar I just modified using jdgui
so if this works you won't have to actually bother compiling the plugin xD
and I can proudly say it started
pale shell
You know you always have that one hella fucking weird fucked up person who you drag along? Well that's me.
static zealot
now its just time to test xD
onyx loom
in the BST Timezone (which is used by the United Kingdom), the current time is Wednesday 12th May 2021, 00:56
static zealot
WOF
onyx loom
evidence?
pale shell
WRONG*
onyx loom
cute gif
pale shell
See 0:58
onyx loom
haha u funny
pale shell
?
onyx loom
typing that in manually to be funny 🥲
pale shell
It says 00:58
onyx loom
hmmm i wonder why
onyx loom
eh
onyx loom
oh i see
pale shell
I failed.
onyx loom
nt
static zealot
no I'm going to shame you in every channel
steel heart
I bet blitz has rythm premium
static zealot
well anyways... it didn't wrok
pale shell
static zealot
who the fuck has money for that?
pale shell
?
static zealot
well the reply system is fucked
pale shell
How much is it
steel heart
who the fuck has money for that?
Maybe you could give us the answer
static zealot
I wanted to reply to Conclure's message, it showed the reply thing but then it dissapeared
static zealot
Maybe you could give us the answer
I don't have it. I don't even know how much it is
steel heart
static zealot
well @pale shell anyways you can still do that shit. It turns out, it doesn't actually work xD
no errors or anything it just doesn't work for some reason
it shows the attack animation
but can't damage only other entities
no players
and yes both me and the other fake player were in gm 0 and without god enabled
pale shell
Scam
static zealot
I guess it has something to do with the packets
bz I didn't actually looked at those
I just assumed it sends a damage packet but idk how packets work so idk
pale shell
I actually hate packets
half harness
why?
pale shell
Complex?
static zealot
well I haven't actually used them before
half harness
ytfdjsak trying to setup a dev server on another computer but its not working!!!!!\
the laptop just hates me
onyx loom
make it work !!!
half harness
ill try restarting the computer
onyx loom
i see, ur an IT support master
static zealot
why not
half harness
- its a laptop
- its new
- its not really mine 🥲 (which is why im using teamviewer)
its so fast
static zealot
Ic
static zealot
ah so nice
half harness
-_-
static zealot
well I'm already in 2 mins 20 seconds of build
and its still at compileKotlin task
which is first one lmao
half harness
well I'm already in 2 mins 20 seconds of build
as long as it doesnt go above 5 mins its fine 🙂
half harness
and its still at compileKotlin task
ya happens to me too
build takes about 2-4 minutes
forest pecan
alright, im going to need some help converting my maven project into gradle. brace for impact lmao
static zealot
that sucks
half harness
wtf is with this laptop
is there some windows settings to block ports?!
ive opened the ports in firewall
pale shell
intellij + teamviewer = 🤢
1.8
half harness
..
forest pecan
Maven: https://paste.helpch.at/macefifawo.xml
For this part:
<modules>
<module>minecraftmedialibrary-api</module>
<module>v1_16_R3</module>
<module>v1_16_R2</module>
<module>v1_16_R1</module>
<module>v1_15_R1</module>
<module>v1_14_R1</module>
<module>v1_13_R2</module>
<module>v1_13_R1</module>
<module>v1_12_R1</module>
<module>v1_11_R1</module>
<module>v1_10_R1</module>
<module>v1_9_R2</module>
<module>v1_9_R1</module>
<module>v1_8_R3</module>
<module>v1_8_R2</module>
<module>v1_8_R1</module>
<module>minecraftmedialibrary-nms</module>
<module>minecraftmedialibrary</module>
<module>deluxemediaplugin</module>
</modules>
Do I need to some specification for this in Gradle?
pale shell
Delete that
half harness
Maven: https://paste.helpch.at/macefifawo.xml
For this part:
```xml
<modules...
settings.gradle yes
pale shell
Only use gradle
half harness
and u have to shade it in build.gradle
obtuse gale
Only use gradle
That's what he's asking...
forest pecan
Yeah lmao
pale shell
No??
obtuse gale
.. yes
half harness
alright, im going to need some help converting my maven project into gradle. bra...
.
forest pecan
lol
forest pecan
rootProject.name = "minecraftmedialibrary-parent"
include(":v1_12_R1")
include(":v1_14_R1")
include(":deluxemediaplugin")
include(":v1_16_R2")
include(":v1_16_R3")
include(":v1_11_R1")
include(":v1_9_R1")
include(":minecraftmedialibrary-nms")
include(":v1_9_R2")
include(":v1_13_R1")
include(":v1_8_R3")
include(":v1_13_R2")
include(":v1_8_R1")
include(":v1_8_R2")
include(":v1_15_R1")
include(":v1_16_R1")
include(":v1_10_R1")
include(":minecraftmedialibrary")
include(":minecraftmedialibrary-api")
like this
right
excpet i need to change the order
its fucked up
half harness
lol
half harness
then in build.gradle just do ```gradle
dependencies {
for (Project project : subprojects) {
implementation project
}
}
You can do for loops???
half harness
yes... its groovy
pale shell
Oh
obtuse gale
You can do for loops???
It's a script file that you can use groovy or kotlin to write it
So yes
half harness
dkim, you are good at spoonfeeding right?
no, im trying to fix this firewall issue
half harness
kotlin dsl?
forest pecan
i heard apply plugin: 'java' is bad
forest pecan
kotlin dsl?
yes
forest pecan
well just syntax ig
i got it
I heard that using apply like that i sbad
whats the other better option again?
obtuse gale
then in build.gradle just do ```gradle
dependencies {
for (Project project :...
I guess you would do subprojects.forEach { implementation(it) }?
@half harness confirm
half harness
I guess you would do `subprojects.forEach { implementation(it) }`?
probably
forest pecan
it shows implementation as red
obtuse gale
Context?
forest pecan
gimme a sec
pale shell
Mcafee???
obtuse gale
Ikr
half harness
wtf
why are there so many sheeps
pale shell
wtf
why are there so many sheeps
Those are chickens
pale shell
i didn't install it tho
Why you not uninstall it
pale shell
You stole it? Gotcha
forest pecan
description = "minecraftmedialibrary-parent"
dependencies {
subprojects.forEach { implementation(it) }
}
plugins {
java
}
java {
compileJava {
sourceCompatibility = 1.8
targetCompatibility = 1.8
}
}
gonna need some help is this how tasks work?
pale shell
??
half harness
??
pale shell
That's not a task??
sweet cipher
wtf
why are there so many sheeps
Because they taste good
forest pecan
No, the compileJava
half harness
```kt
description = "minecraftmedialibrary-parent"
dependencies {
subprojec...
that build.gradle.kts looks uh
wouldn't that error?
forest pecan
Uh, no
pale shell
No
forest pecan
not for me atm
half harness
or is it some kts magic
forest pecan
it indeed does
boom
description = "minecraftmedialibrary-parent"
dependencies {
subprojects.forEach { implementation(it) }
}
plugins {
java
}
java {
sourceCompatibility = JavaVersion.VERSION_1_8
targetCompatibility = JavaVersion.VERSION_1_8
}
finished
obtuse gale
Tbh you don't need the description field
forest pecan
does gradle not use names
Maven: https://paste.helpch.at/macefifawo.xml
description = "minecraftmedialibrary-parent"
version = "RELEASE-1.4.0"
dependencies {
subprojects.forEach { implementation(it) }
}
plugins {
java
}
java {
sourceCompatibility = JavaVersion.VERSION_1_8
targetCompatibility = JavaVersion.VERSION_1_8
}
tasks.withType<JavaCompile> {
options.encoding = "UTF-8"
}
i think i got it down tho
rootProject.name = "minecraftmedialibrary-parent"
include(":minecraftmedialibrary-api")
include(":v1_16_R3")
include(":v1_16_R2")
include(":v1_16_R1")
include(":v1_15_R1")
include(":v1_14_R1")
include(":v1_13_R2")
include(":v1_13_R1")
include(":v1_12_R1")
include(":v1_11_R1")
include(":v1_10_R1")
include(":v1_8_R3")
include(":v1_9_R2")
include(":v1_9_R1")
include(":v1_8_R2")
include(":v1_8_R1")
include(":minecraftmedialibrary-nms")
include(":minecraftmedialibrary")
include(":deluxemediaplugin")
seems fine
obtuse gale
does gradle not use names
Not really
I believe it's for pom generation or whatever
Idrk
Never had issues without it anyway so
obtuse gale
Yes
forest pecan
k ty
obtuse gale
Yw
ocean quartz
Hotel = trivago
onyx loom
has anyone actually used trivago
ocean quartz
No lmao
onyx loom
genuine question
sweet cipher
Has anyone not used it?
ocean quartz
Uh, what?
forest pecan
In the parent module, we used
dependencies {
subprojects.forEach { implementation(it) }
}
to help implement each of the modules into the parent from the settings.gradle.kts.
can we do the similar with shadow, except for all the current listed dependencies?
ocean quartz
Do you want to implement every subproject into one?
Anything that is implementation or api gets shaded with shadow
forest pecan
Ah
that is useful
wait so literally i just do something like this
description = "minecraftmedialibrary-nms"
plugins {
id("com.github.pulsebeat02.java-conventions")
}
dependencies {
implementation(project(":v1_16_R3"))
implementation(project(":v1_16_R2"))
implementation(project(":v1_16_R1"))
implementation(project(":v1_15_R1"))
implementation(project(":v1_14_R1"))
implementation(project(":v1_13_R2"))
implementation(project(":v1_13_R1"))
implementation(project(":v1_12_R1"))
implementation(project(":v1_11_R1"))
implementation(project(":v1_10_R1"))
implementation(project(":v1_9_R2"))
implementation(project(":v1_9_R1"))
implementation(project(":v1_8_R3"))
implementation(project(":v1_8_R2"))
implementation(project(":v1_8_R1"))
}
buildscript {
repositories {
jcenter()
}
dependencies {
classpath ("com.github.jengelman.gradle.plugins:shadow:5.2.0")
}
}
and i should be fine right lmao
(for shading those project module things)
ocean quartz
You have a gradle plugin? 
Also don't use buildscript
forest pecan
i think its auto generated. It just provides the necessary repositories
ocean quartz
plugins {
id("com.github.johnrengelman.shadow") version "7.0.0"
}
buildscript {
repositories {
jcenter()
}
dependencies {
classpath ("com.github.jengelman.gradle.plugins:shadow:5.2.0")
}
}
``` 🥶Ah ic
yea
forest pecan
im not sure why but it seems that it cant find the implementation reference anymore
ocean quartz
Do you have the java plugin?
static zealot
https://i.imgur.com/PatVB9V.png wtf is going on here? the emoji is under the code box
forest pecan
Ah I need to add that
half harness
https://i.imgur.com/PatVB9V.png wtf is going on here? the emoji is under the cod...
yes...
that is how i sent it
obtuse gale
gotta love groovy 🌚
ocean quartz
beautiful
hot hull
Holy fuck is mobile copying sensitive
Legit copies everything when scrolling
(embeds)
ocean quartz
It's so stupid right
cinder flare
y'all ever just install every language even though you only speak english https://i.imgur.com/eBRZ6sX.png
babel-greek is fucking huge dude
lost forge
No, because it takes up too much un-needed space 😛
hot hull
babel-greek is fucking huge dude
That's what she said
cinder flare
No, because it takes up too much un-needed space 😛
yeah it's more than a gig lol, I went back and custom installed only English
it's still going though, only like 1/4th of the way done
lost forge
Might take a while.
cinder flare
yeah dude why was the last TeX install written in like 2003 lol
i just wanna make cool PDF's 🥲
distant sun
https://i.imgur.com/wUPmGqR.png why it doesnt let me access aliases? 😅
lunar cypress
distant sun
looks like I had to add vall after vararg
hot hull
jovial warren
Lol
oak coyote
Geeez Developers are so dumb leave this job to the managers
distant sun
what's the equivalent of an empty char for replace(oldChar, newChar)? I know I can use replace("_", "") but I was just wondering if there's something like this but for chars
frail glade
So Mojang just required Java 16 👀
distant sun
nice one
steel heart
I love u waffle guy
half harness
hi waffle king!
eternal compass
this new discord font is awful 🤢
obtuse gale
Now with twice as much Java version
actually funny
obtuse gale
what's the equivalent of an empty char for `replace(oldChar, newChar)`? I know I...
no
distant sun
that's a good step
half harness
wait what
steel heart
Pigstep
half harness
they're switching java versions?!
obtuse gale
they're switching java versions?!
did you care to read anything? lmao
half harness
no I didn't
half harness
I didn't open the page yet
steel heart
I need to celebrate this
obtuse gale
It's like all our dreams finally came true :') cough paper hard fork cough
half harness
im too busy to read it
steel heart
eternal compass
It's like all our dreams finally came true :') *cough paper hard fork cough*
is server-side gonna update aswell?
half harness
hopefully not
eternal compass
if so RIP paper who made everyone switch to 11, just to switch to 16 right after
steel heart
It’s super pog
obtuse gale
is server-side gonna update aswell?
It doesn't mention anything about it though
obtuse gale
it never worked
half harness
would slimjar break?
obtuse gale
no
quiet depot
@frail glade what's happening in paper?
obtuse gale
It doesn't mention anything about it though
But you know, just take the jar and take a peek
old wyvern
Wait wait
frail glade
They're discussing internally. Give me 24 hours. Probabaly will bump to 16 as well.
old wyvern
Mojang switched to 16?
quiet depot
okie
obtuse gale
Yess!!
eternal compass
nice
old wyvern
would slimjar break?
No
half harness
They're discussing internally. Give me 24 hours. Probabaly will bump to 16 as we...
oh nooooooooo
old wyvern
Omgg finally
eternal compass
lets go
half harness
i only have java 11 installed
ocean quartz
That's pretty awesome
old wyvern
🥲
prisma wave
So Mojang just required Java 16 👀
LET'S GO
hot hull
As they should
prisma wave
FINALLY
quiet depot
this is bad for me 😦
hot hull
Finally something smart
quiet depot
dcevm doesn't support 16
old wyvern
Rip dcevm
prisma wave
wouldn't PDM break
AAAAAAA
obtuse gale
i only have java 11 installed
please read the blog!!
half harness
please read the blog!!
what
prisma wave
dcevm doesn't support 16
Soon
obtuse gale
If you are using a default setup the Launcher will download and install the correct version. If you are using a custom Java setup or a third-party launcher, you will need to ensure that your Java installation is version 16 or above.
steel heart
Dcevm will probably support 16 soon won’t it?
half harness
im talking about
quiet depot
doubt it
obtuse gale
ah
half harness
CLIENT
quiet depot
it'll hopefully be updated for 17
half harness
ik that mc has builtin java
quiet depot
but there's not much reason to update it for 16
eternal compass
Java 16 Servers 
old wyvern
Imagine having to update java 🥲
quiet depot
you know just because the client updates to 16 doesn't mean the server has to update
prisma wave
servers should be java 16 too no?
obtuse gale
you know just because the client updates to 16 doesn't mean the server has to up...
Yeah they don't mention anything though
half harness
you know just because the client updates to 16 doesn't mean the server has to up...
They're discussing internally. Give me 24 hours. Probabaly will bump to 16 as well.
quiet depot
ohh right
obtuse gale
They just say "Minecraft now uses a more recent version of Java"
quiet depot
paper is based on nms
prisma wave
If the vanilla server was built against 16
quiet depot
i forgot
prisma wave
Then yeah
old wyvern
Mhm
half harness
mojang whyyyyyyyyyy
quiet depot
@obtuse gale paper has direct contact with mojang
obtuse gale
md5 is probably raging or something :^)
quiet depot
if glare is pulling out a 16 number
obtuse gale
yeah ik
quiet depot
then it's probably official
prisma wave
should've waited for java 17 ☹️
ocean quartz
because i use 1.8 😎
That's quite sad, sorry to hear that
half harness
<@456226577798135808> paper has direct contact with mojang
woah really?
obtuse gale
should've waited for java 17 ☹️
another 6 months lol
prisma wave
depending on a non LTS version is a bit weird
old wyvern
Yes lol
frail glade
My guess is they will bump to 17 for the next update after this summer one.
quiet depot
lots of important people in the mc community have direct contact with mojang dkim
frail glade
As the LTS isn't still September
half harness
That's quite sad, sorry to hear that
smh
quiet depot
not just paper
old wyvern
Im a mojang spy
prisma wave
Im a mojang spy
when is HineHraft coming
old wyvern
when is HineHraft coming
Soon🎉
prisma wave
YAY
ocean quartz
tell mojang to use 1.8 😎
old wyvern
Mojang switching to haskell
half harness
I can't tell if you're stupid, or just an idiot
me neither
prisma wave
Mojang switching to haskell
Mojang smart company
old wyvern
ikr
half harness
Mojang switching to haskell
oh plz no
hot hull
The more you mention legacy, the more I think it might be both
old wyvern
Microsoft good?
prisma wave
oh plz yes*
half harness
The more you mention legacy, the more I think it might be both
hm
prisma wave
Microsoft good?
Simon worked at Microsoft research so yes
hot hull
Microsoft good?
Look at how they're massacring discord, so no
old wyvern
Windows rewrite to haskell coming soon ™️
prisma wave
😌
boreal needle
whats supposed to be coming in java 17
obtuse gale
features
hot hull
Fibers?
eternal compass
Windows rewrite to haskell coming soon ™️
Linux re-write
half harness
Maybe fibers
wot
ocean quartz
pvp + anyversiobesides1.8or1.7 = unpopular
Imagine living in the past and being unable to accept change
eternal compass
/s
old wyvern
Lightweight threads frost
half harness
Imagine living in the past and being unable to accept change
couldn't be me
half harness
I'd never do that matt!
prisma wave
Kinda
obtuse gale
there are still no guarantees this change applies to the server though
ocean quartz
It's kinda sad
hot hull
Interesting
boreal needle
ngl im just happy that i finally get List.of
obtuse gale
but still that means that client mods though 👀
old wyvern
Very different from kotlin coroutines
half harness
but still that means that client mods though 👀
lunar ftw
boreal needle
ill try it later
frail glade
That is correct, Emily.
obtuse gale
Which part lol
boreal needle
lunar bad
ocean quartz
Time to drop support to anything pre 1.17
old wyvern
Would they not nake the switch on the server when changing the client?
boreal needle
its like blc but slightly less intolerable
hot hull
Should've done that ages ago Matt (1.16)
old wyvern
Why keep codebases on very different java versions
steel heart
Poop pc
obtuse gale
Why keep codebases on very different java versions
Sounds like a pain yeah
hot hull
Just remake everything if you're updating to such a different version
boreal needle
Just remake everything if you're updating to such a different version
bedrock 
steel heart
now i get bullied for my bad pc
So poop == bad
obtuse gale
The classes are compiled against Java 16 (class bytecode version 60). However I dont see any use of record classes.
SMH
boreal needle
give them tiiiiime
steel heart
Lombok
half harness
Lombok
obtuse gale
i DEMAND RECords
half harness
?plsnolombok
old wyvern
Refactoring everything to use java 16 features is probably not an easy task
obtuse gale
yeah
old wyvern
Does mojang use lombok?
half harness
dooubt it
old wyvern
Good
obtuse gale
is there any way to know for sure?
like it applies at compile time, does lombok leave traces?
old wyvern
The mappings maybe, not sure
steel heart
They use public fields sometimes
obtuse gale
I mean surely someone would have checked this already
eternal compass
can I get some advice?
I'm creating a small plugin for changing minecraft server.properties settings and such (for a test server).
should I make it totally gui based or not?
old wyvern
like it applies at compile time, does lombok leave traces?
No idea, I havent used lombok 🤷
steel heart
In some of the entity classes iirc
obtuse gale
can I get some advice?
I'm creating a small plugin for changing minecraft server...
make it an option ig, like GUI and commands, idk
forest pecan
lmao
steel heart
Idk
eternal compass
make it an option ig, like GUI *and* commands, idk
;-; that sounds like work
fine...
steel heart
Verbosity reduction mb
ocean quartz
now i get bullied for my bad pc
You get bullied for your outdated choices
old wyvern
He gets bullied for being him
prisma wave
You pretty much don't need lombok in newer java versions
obtuse gale
They use public fields sometimes
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the original Bukkit team changing the access modifiers though
half harness
oh
steel heart
lmao
prisma wave
They'll probably slowly refactor stuff to use the new features
old wyvern
Mhm
half harness
;-; that sounds like work
make the gui run the commands
eternal compass
no, please, no
old wyvern
Bukkit2 when?
half harness
;-; ok
steel heart
Hukkit
eternal compass
Bukkit2 when?
paper
half harness
paper is bukkit fork
steel heart
Lol
old wyvern
Paper would implement the old bukkit api without changing anything
ocean quartz
MD will be like "For 1.17 we'll be upgrading the server version to Java 6", "do you mean 16?", "did I stutter?"
obtuse gale
lol
eternal compass
lmao
old wyvern
Time to ditch spigot and write sprinkler
obtuse gale
I really do wonder why they took this decision so drastically
boreal needle
we're starting to run out of water related names
old wyvern
Man really uses netbeans tho
half harness
mojang should have just upgraded to java 11 🥺
obtuse gale
mojang should have just upgraded to java 11 🥺
why lol
steel heart
16 more pog
boreal needle
i mean the launcher does its own java thing anyway, they have control over the environment
half harness
servers
obtuse gale
yeah
ocean quartz
People from paper probably annoyed them into deciding 
half harness
don't
old wyvern
But straight up 16?
They're codebase is probably easily compatible with latest
obtuse gale
wat
old wyvern
Also might increase dev productivity to have the new features
half harness
wat
obtuse gale
yeah fair
obtuse gale
and with J17 right around the corner I wouldn't be surprised if they updated to it too for the next version
prisma wave
Also might increase dev productivity to have the new features
It absolutely increases productivity
Time is money
old wyvern
Which might explain the "records not used" ...etc
boreal needle
isnt 17 lts too
obtuse gale
yea
distant sun
is this right?
@DslMarker
annotation class OptionDSL
@OptionDSL
internal fun optionBuilder(opt: String, builder: Option.Builder.() -> Unit): Option {
return Option.builder(opt).apply(builder).build()
}```yeah itd make sense if they updated then
distant sun
is it because of the class structure or why I cant assign values to fields instead of using methods?
options.addOption(
optionBuilder("h") {
longOpt("heads")
numberOfArgs(1)
argName("aa")
}
)
options.addOption(
Option.builder("t")
.longOpt("test")
.required()
.desc("test")
.build()
)```what does internal do in kt?
obtuse gale
Time is money
Actually yes! I don't remember where I read this exactly but I read an article once about companies supporting newer platforms of whatever and how much difference it made in productivity and especially costs!!
That is something you don't really think about
prisma wave
in a good way or bad way?
distant sun
it was supposed to be inline but internal means it cant be accessed from other classes iirc
obtuse gale
But it does have a huge effect
obtuse gale
in a good way or bad way?
newer = good
prisma wave
Ah yeah
half harness
it was supposed to be `inline` but internal means it cant be accessed from other...
isn't that just private?
hot hull
bedrock <:sad_fingerguns:737200358694060123>
No.
prisma wave
I imagine that would apply to pretty much everything except legacy stuff
old wyvern
it was supposed to be `inline` but internal means it cant be accessed from other...
No, internal limits to that module
prisma wave
afaik java 9 actually takes some effort to migrate over
distant sun
close, yugi
old wyvern
wdym?
distant sun
I was close xd
old wyvern
Oh ok
distant sun
is it because of the class structure or why I cant assign values to fields inste...
also? 😅
old wyvern
I dont understand what you're asking
ocean quartz
what does internal do in kt?
Internal is access modifier that makes it accessible only to the current module
distant sun
arent kt builders supposed to work like property = value?
someBuilder {
name = "Gaby"
class = ClassType.ARCHER
}```yea
old wyvern
Those arent "builders", rather they are named arguments for some function
Builders are useless boilerplate if used in kotlin for the same reason
prisma wave
That's not a named argument
old wyvern
You can get the same functionality with default values and named arguments
distant sun
wait nvm I think I got it
old wyvern
Oh wait yea true
prisma wave
lol
distant sun
the problem is that the class is already a builder
and the mehods arent named setSomething() but something()
ocean quartz
and the mehods arent named setSomething() but something()
This will be interopable in the future due to record support
old wyvern
😮
ocean quartz
Probably when Valhalla drops 😩
old wyvern
🥲
half harness
what is valhalla
prisma wave
Yeah we're not getting fibres for a long time
obtuse gale
enhanced RNG :0
old wyvern
what is valhalla
An update introducing value types, templates and such
prisma wave
But sealed classes are nice
obtuse gale
that's pog!!!
prisma wave
And the random stuff
obtuse gale
yo that's awesome actually
obtuse gale
@half harness ^
half harness
;-;
old wyvern
@half harness ^^
steel heart
😮
ocean quartz
😮
old wyvern
😮
obtuse gale
😌
half harness
removed only 1 line
old wyvern
Header files ftw
half harness
wow
obtuse gale
My best move was removing a single char in Incendo/cloud readme lol
old wyvern
obtuse gale
And just like that you have more lines than me contributed lmao
Almost!!!
ipsk 1,651 ++ 921 --
emilyy-dev 1,379 ++ 1 --
old wyvern
And just like that you have more lines than me contributed lmao
You have much more I think
Oh maybe that was in commots
Commits
ocean quartz
Ugh i need to figure that Gradle stuff
half harness
im so confused
ocean quartz
Gradle is probably one of the worse documented softwares I've seen
obtuse gale
Java's current PRNGs are all uniform distribution right?
old wyvern
🥲
old wyvern
Gradle plugins
obtuse gale
yes piggy but reading is for nerds
old wyvern
Docs for gralde plugins
frail glade
Inb4 "Pls DocDex the Gradle forums"
ocean quartz
None of which covers plugins Piggy
old wyvern
🥲
ocean quartz
Lmao
old wyvern
slimjar
half harness
how do i use slimjar 😩 do i use Appending Applications or Isolated Module Applications
also idk what a urlclassloader or a boostrap module is ;-;
quiet depot
urlclassloader is a kind of class loader that loads classes from urls
bootstrap module, bootstrap refers to a program's initiation period
so bootstrap module, a module that handles the bootstrap
ocean quartz
what does it do
Auto defects dependencies, sets up relocations, isolated projects, etc, basically all depends on the plugin, to be simple to use
old wyvern
how do i use slimjar 😩 do i use Appending Applications or Isolated Module Appli...
For now, if you're making plugins, the appending method should be enough
half harness
pdm was so simple 😩
obtuse gale
pdm was so simple 😩
but broken
quiet depot
also
old wyvern
Its actually just almost a copy paste of the example into your onLoad
ocean quartz
Simple things are pretty easy, but when it comes to adding more advanced stuff it's awful, i had to go around their slack to find good resources
obtuse gale
slack
quiet depot
oof
obtuse gale
haven't heard of that bad boy in a while
ocean quartz
I probably know more about plugins by now than he does since I've been suffering on this for so long 🥲
old wyvern
🥲
ocean quartz
Ayy actually nice, I'm down for that
quiet depot
i can't even remember what it's meant to do
I'm guessing just generate the metadata papi needs
honestly can't remember, been so long
old wyvern
Papi3 ded?
ocean quartz
That shouldn't be too hard
old wyvern
Its mostly complete right?
quiet depot
ye
I mean
like code wise yes
but there's a lot more to it than code
if you include the entire process, not even close to being complete
entire process being documentation, expansion implementations, testing
onyx loom
🥲
old wyvern
Hmm
steel heart
is there anyway I can contribute or no?
quiet depot
when the api is finalized you'll be able to contribute expansion implementations, javadocs, testing, etc
but it's not finalized
so no, not really atm
quiet depot
the 3 stands for the third millennium
old wyvern
If only it was written in haskell
old wyvern
the 3 stands for the third millennium
😮
frail glade
Will be interesting to watch all these older plugins on Spigot break.
half harness
final ApplicationConfiguration config = ApplicationConfiguration.createDefault("MyApplication");
final ApplicationFactory appFactory = new ApplicationFactory(config);
final Application app = appFactory.createAppendingApplication((URLClassLoader)MyApplication.class.getClassLoader());
// The dependencies are now available in the classloader provided, in this case, the application classloader
```what goes in `MyApplication`?Time to start compiling under Java 16.
steel heart
Will be interesting to watch all these older plugins on Spigot break.
no mercy >:)
old wyvern
flashbacks of sxs papi update
obtuse gale
Time to start compiling under Java 16.
:0? confirmed?
frail glade
Idk what that is.
obtuse gale
mhm
half harness
time to never update 🙂
old wyvern
Idk what that is.
Its a jvm with better hotswapping
obtuse gale
time to never update 🙂
not surprising coming from you lol
quiet depot
waffle how do you not know what it is
frail glade
I don't even hotswap.
quiet depot
i've been rambling on about it for years
old wyvern
Lol
half harness
🤣
frail glade
You're a pig. I eat you for breakfast.
quiet depot
yeah you're literally a waffle lol
half harness
like 1 hour ago
frail glade
Say less.
half harness
was very yummy to be honest
frail glade
Idk, I don't really hotswap and care about doing improvements to it.
old wyvern
Yes, waffle on haskell soon ™️
quiet depot
hotswap is essential to my dev workflow
half harness
```java
final ApplicationConfiguration config = ApplicationConfiguration.cre...
bump yuGi
frail glade
Fair enough.
half harness
hotswap is essential to my dev workflow
be like me and dont update :))))))
quiet depot
i'm gonna have to update dcevm myself unless 17 comes out soon enough and hotswapprojects update it
no dkim
lost forge
be like me and dont update :))))))
Update, what's that? xD
half harness
Update, what's that? xD
not too sure, i've heard these ppl talk about it though
half harness
Any class inside your plugin should suffice xD
does it have to include the package?
old wyvern
i'm gonna have to update dcevm myself unless 17 comes out soon enough and hotswa...
Are the dcevm team not even bothering to update it? Or is it just taking time?
quiet depot
well 17 isn't out yet
ocean quartz
be like me and dont update :))))))
quiet depot
and they don't seem to release updates for non-lts
but with a project like dcevm, you can't expect updates
it's just not popular enough to be reliable like that
old wyvern
does it have to include the package?
Oh the name? Probably best to provide the package name, but anything would work. Its just an identifier
lost forge
well 17 isn't out yet
When 17 is put though, it will take a while for spigot/Paper to catch up as it usually does.
old wyvern
but with a project like dcevm, you can't expect updates
Ah
half harness
Oh the name? Probably best to provide the package name, but anything would work....
oh so i can just put my plugin name?
old wyvern
Yea
quiet depot
lol honestly probably doesn't matter that much omega
I do very little dev these days anyway
lost forge
Lol, I have been slack with my dev stuff... I really need to get back into it one of these days and finish updating my plugins....
quiet depot
i don't have time
frail glade
I do very little dev these days anyway
This is a whole mood and then some.
Yeah, I finish up finals this weekend and next week I start my 9 - 5 internship.
quiet depot
i've got exams next week and I haven't even started revision lel
lost forge
Maybe you should start then.
quiet depot
teachers thought it'd be a good idea to load every day up last week, and the week prior with a test
or at least the equivalent
so I literally haven't had a chance
ocean quartz
Lol, I have been slack with my dev stuff... I really need to get back into it on...
Same 😫
distant sun
i've got exams next week and I haven't even started revision lel
Relatable
quiet depot
memory gonna have to come in clutch
distant sun
I have exams on 7 11 16 and 21 june, F
old wyvern
Man one of my prof didnt even take a single class after our mid terms and now we have who knows what coming up for its exam next week
half harness
time to add that in dkim19375Core :)) ```kt
override fun onLoad() {
setupSlimJar()
}
why can't slimjar just be ```java
SlimJar.load(getClass());
```and then ```java
public static void load(final Class clazz) {
final ApplicationConfiguration config = ApplicationConfiguration.createDefault(clazz.getConicalName());
final ApplicationFactory appFactory = new ApplicationFactory(config);
final Application app = appFactory.createAppendingApplication((URLClassLoader)clazz.getClassLoader());
}
I have a plugin updated... but haven't tested yet and it's a huge update so don't wanna release it and make others test as it mostly likely doesn't even work yet hahah.
old wyvern
time to add that in dkim19375Core :)) ```kt
override fun onLoad() {
setupSli...
Because those are only the default stuff
half harness
Because those are only the default stuff
what about loadDefault 🙂
old wyvern
Youd be changing those as you want depnding on your use case
Its really just 3 classes tho
Or actually, in this case, 2
distant sun
I got a tone of projects to finish, including one with deadline for tomorrow but I cant stop working on guihelper xd
distant sun
Chat when @ocean quartz
ocean quartz
I want to work on it but, i have so many things to do 😩
lost forge
I want to work on it but, i have so many things to do 😩
I know that feeling...
distant sun
Welp
onyx loom
:(
ocean quartz
I know that feeling...
It's terrible, got so much to do and end up procrastinating instead
lost forge
I usually just end up playing games instead...
quiet depot
I have exams on 7 11 16 and 21 june, F
17 May, 19 May, 19 May, 20 may, 25 May, 8 June
ez
distant sun
Two in the same day? Ok
onyx loom
i finished college today 🙂
quiet depot
yeah physics and engineering on the same day
distant sun
Damn nice kali
ocean quartz
Ayy nice Kali
quiet depot
uni time kali?
ocean quartz
Haha, job 🥲
onyx loom
life only gets better from here !!!
distant sun
Is that what UK parents tell to their childs after college? Ok
old wyvern
i finished college today 🙂
Gg
old wyvern
life only gets better from here !!!
lost forge
the bad news is that now i have to find a job 🥲
Good luck, been trying for roughly 5 years....
ocean quartz
Gonna open a game dev company and hire all you nerds
ocean quartz
Yes, let's make buggy games
quiet depot
why don't u make a company that makes boring (but very complicated and high quality) backend software
quiet depot
that's where the fun is
old wyvern
game dev sucks ballsacks
😠
quiet depot
do you like it?
old wyvern
Ofc I do, i study it lol
quiet depot
unique breed
ocean quartz
I personally like it too
But then again I like backend as well
quiet depot
idk if what I like would be called backend or not
my main interest is like dev tools and shit (docdex is a perfect example)
which I usually call backend but idk if that's appropriate
ocean quartz
i need a job
Yas, then i can give you a job so you can get documentation to work in europe so you can leave that place!
Dev tools is nice as well
hot hull
Matt, do hit me up with that job offer :kek:
old wyvern
xD
ocean quartz
Also I keep forgetting I wanted to make a PR for Docdex to fix the ordering thing
ocean quartz
Yeah