dev-general

[jovial warren]

yeah I'm not using that anyway (yet), just thought it was interesting

[obtuse gale]

I mean i, j, k and r are the actual names lol

[jovial warren]

also, what is the difference between Vec3 and Vec3i?

[prisma wave]

complex im guessing?

[obtuse gale]

Doubles v int

[prisma wave]

oh

ofc

[jovial warren]

ah I see

[old wyvern]

https://github.com/bubblecloud/vecmath/blob/master/src/main/java/org/bubblecloud/vecmath/Quaternion.java

[jovial warren]

I wonder if it's worth having BlockPos and Vec3i in here

[old wyvern]

oh yea true just saw

[jovial warren]

I mean, Sponge has them in the new API iirc

[old wyvern]

only the param ones look weird

The actual class has proper names

[obtuse gale]

Yeah those aren't in the obf maps unfortunately

[old wyvern]

sad

But most of it makes sense anyway

[jovial warren]

https://github.com/SpongePowered/math ah there's where they get it from

[old wyvern]

Man this guy is lit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du_boiwX1yU, just finished all the encoding types I had to study in like 6 minutes

[oak raft]

Update: I'm dropping kotlin again for c++ 🥴

I learned the basics though so that's nice at least

[onyx loom]

🥴

[static zealot]

🙏

[obtuse gale]

I'm warning you from the start: you're probably gonna learn the non-suggested and discouraged aspects of it and you're gonna hate it and blame it on the language

[old wyvern]

Couldnt be haskell

[boreal needle]

surely having practices that are discouraged baked into the language is a bad sign?

[obtuse gale]

Rooting all the way back from its origins? Unfortunately part of it is being C compliant

But if you're gonna use C++, use it how you're supposed to use it instead of not doing it and complain

[oak raft]

I'll try and remember this once I get frustrated

[obtuse gale]

I'm tired of this shit

[oak raft]

What shit

[obtuse gale]

People saying it's unsafe yet not using it how you're supposed to, how it's designed to be used, not following any kind of guidelines and blaming it on the language (there are official core guidelines that force you to use it safely)

If you're gonna complain at least use it how you're supposed to

Using C++ in a non-suggested and discouraged way and complaining about it is exactly like entering a chemistry lab and not using any kind of protection and blaming it on chemistry

[prisma wave]

@old wyvern any idea how i can "delegate" a ToJSON implementation? I have this ```hs
instance ToJSON HoverEventAction where
toJSON ShowText = toJSON "show_text" :: String

but it complains that ` Couldn't match type ‘[Char]’ with ‘Value’       Expected type: Value         Actual type: String`

HoverEventAction is data HoverEventAction = ShowText | ShowItem | ShowEntity deriving (Show)

[obtuse gale]

It's just fucking common sense, if you were to use more than 3 fucking brain cells then none of those things would happen

[onyx loom]

🥲

[obtuse gale]

I'm actually mad

[onyx loom]

c++ sounds scary

u make me scared

[oak raft]

I'm scared kaliber idk if I'm making the right decision

hearing about c++ gives me the chills

[onyx loom]

go back to kotlin 🥲

[ocean quartz]

What happened to Weeb Mitten?

[onyx loom]

OMG

[prisma wave]

Rust and Haskell are all you need

[onyx loom]

HES GONE

[prisma wave]

I got bribed

[oak raft]

You got bored of anime?

[onyx loom]

i CANNOT believe this!

this is a huge feat for humanity!

[oak raft]

Watch jujutsu kaisen or something

[onyx loom]

soldier is back 😌

[oak raft]

I can't 😫 I wanna give unreal engine a shot and I'm not doing that blueprint bs so c++ it is

[prisma wave]

Quite sad really

[obtuse gale]

You don't go around running around with a knife with the blade on your scrotum and say that knives are unsafe

[forest pecan]

did he actually do it?

[prisma wave]

Yes

[onyx loom]

depends who u are

[obtuse gale]

I'm Emily, nice to meet you

[prisma wave]

Sounds kinda hot

[forest pecan]

sad

[oak raft]

nah im joking

[obtuse gale]

Lol

[oak raft]

but fr how could you use c++ "unsafely"?

[ocean quartz]

Sell out

[onyx loom]

good

[forest pecan]

no

not good at all

[prisma wave]

Worth it

[oak raft]

He probably sold his soul for elara 🙄

[forest pecan]

i am beating redempt up rn

in spigot discord

[onyx loom]

soldier good trap pfp bad

[prisma wave]

You were all complaining so it was free nitro

[ocean quartz]

I bet you would stop using Haskell for money!

[prisma wave]

Feel free to pay me and we can test

[obtuse gale]

Just get into any course online, any classes in unis, they'll teach you old crap, they'll teach you C with classes, not C++

[prisma wave]

I will be changing the pfp back after a month btw 😁

[forest pecan]

YES

[onyx loom]

oh please do not

[ocean quartz]

Nice

[forest pecan]

Set a timer

bm

[onyx loom]

ill pay u another month

[forest pecan]

set a timer

Quick bm set a timer to do that

you have high enough tier

[oak raft]

Wtf are you doing

delete that

[onyx loom]

NO

[forest pecan]

Wtf

@onyx loom

[onyx loom]

trap pfp BAD

[oak raft]

HE needs to be a WEEB

[onyx loom]

weeb mitten BAD

[prisma wave]

=remindme

[compact perch]

Reminders | Usage

Usage: =remindme <time> "<message>"
eg. =remindme in 5 hours "to feed the Llama"

Requested by: Brister Mitten#3928

[forest pecan]

YES!

[pale shell]

ok i got question, my stupid armor stand doesn't know how to stand in the middle of a block, any clue on fixes?

[forest pecan]

no

[prisma wave]

=remindme in 1 month "to change the pfp back to hot anime femboy"

[compact perch]

New Reminder Set!

In 29 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes:

to change the pfp back to hot anime femboy

Requested by: Brister Mitten#3928

[forest pecan]

Less go

[prisma wave]

Thanks

[onyx loom]

😩 😩 😩 😩

[pale shell]

why bm just why.

[forest pecan]

ITS GOOD

very good mental health

very very

goodo

[pale shell]

=remindme in 1 month "to gift brister mitten a month of nitro to keep him weeb free"

[compact perch]

Reminders | Invalid Tier

You need to be at least Tier V in order to set reminders!

Requested by: UntouchedOdin0#1504

[pale shell]

WHAT

[forest pecan]

bitch

hah

u stoopid

[onyx loom]

=remindme in 1 month "to remind odin to gift brister mitten a month of nitro to keep him weeb free"

[compact perch]

New Reminder Set!

In 29 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes:

to remind odin to gift brister mitten a month of nitro to keep him weeb free

Requested by: Kaliber#4386

[pale shell]

scam

ty

[prisma wave]

Feel free to gift it now and I'll delay it for another month 🙂

[onyx loom]

🤣

[pale shell]

cant

[pale shell]

it doesn't work like that

[onyx loom]

do not use my own meme against me

[forest pecan]

i will

i can use your own power against you

[pale shell]

oh no

what has happened to dev general

[onyx loom]

weeb general 😩

[forest pecan]

ur mom

[old wyvern]

You'll need to use one of the value constructors I think
https://hackage.haskell.org/package/aeson-1.5.6.0/docs/Data-Aeson.html#t:Value

[forest pecan]

nop

[oak raft]

You guys are unbelievable, there's no way you didn't like weeb mitten

[pale shell]

i got problem with code but idk if anyone can fix

it spawns the armor stand into the next block

[old wyvern]

ToJson is supposed to return a Value

[pale shell]

only 9000 xp to go until i get tier what ever is next.

[old wyvern]

ByteStrings might work as well I think, worth a shot

or actually that might just be what the String constructor of value takes

[prisma wave]

ah that worked ty!

[old wyvern]

lit

[prisma wave]

i just did ```hs
{-# LANGUAGE InstanceSigs #-}
toJSON :: HoverEventAction -> Value
toJSON ShowText = "show_text"
toJSON ShowItem = "show_item"
toJSON ShowEntity = "show_entity"

might be a bad idea but it looks pretty so

[old wyvern]

nice

[pale shell]

bug

that looks haskell

[prisma wave]

wat

[pale shell]

?

[prisma wave]

English

[pale shell]

ok

"that looks like the horrible language of haskell"

[prisma wave]

Thanks for clarifying

[pale shell]

np

[distant sun]

What would be a good way to have --flagName (optional value) and still be able to use args[n] commands?

[pale shell]

@prisma wave why didn't you tell me kotlin was so easy to do this stuff??

[prisma wave]

Wut

[pale shell]

i'm working out how to get a random location and it seems "easy"

val randomLocation = listOf(locations).random()?.take(1) that'll work, right?

[static zealot]

how do you guys work on multiple branches at the same time? Or is this not usual? xd

github branches I mean

oh wait

you can have local branches too can't you?

I forgot about that

[ocean quartz]

Why take(1)? Random should already give you only one

[distant sun]

it does

[gusty glen]

secret-cfg update:

[prisma wave]

What on earth

What type is locations

[pale shell]

ok this is going worse than expected

val locations: List<Location>? = util.getLayerOfBlocks('as'.location, 5)

the ' things are ` things but it breaks discord

[prisma wave]

wtf

[pale shell]

wrong ?

[distant sun]

fun Location.getLayerOfBlocks(...)

[ocean quartz]

Why are you naming your stuff so badly lol

[prisma wave]

is that an instantiated util class

[pale shell]

because only i'd see it?

[onyx loom]

that whole thing is cursed

[prisma wave]

clearly not

[ocean quartz]

Not an excuse, to the point that you are even using

`as`

Lol

Just name it armorStand

[pale shell]

i use that a ton?

it told me to do it that way

oh

you can do that.

[onyx loom]

IJ is just suggesting it

[pale shell]

I'm sorry, i'm new to kotlin

[onyx loom]

more often than not u wont have to use ``

[distant sun]

matt is talking about using as which is a keyword, not the `

[pale shell]

I thought you had to use the `

Learner mistakes, ig.

[distant sun]

You do.

[ocean quartz]

That's nothing of a Kotlin thing, ij isn't suggesting you use that, it's giving you an error because as is a Kotlin keyword
Name your variables things that make sense and describe what they are

[prisma wave]

You're new to variables?

[pale shell]

I've not done it the kotlin way.

[distant sun]

Wait really? Lol, I thought is kt's way to escape keywords

[prisma wave]

It's the exact same

[prisma wave]

Yes it is

[pale shell]

https://i.imgur.com/E4uGUR9.png this is fine?

[ocean quartz]

It's a way to name things that are considered illegal, in that case you'd get an error if you tried naming it as

[ocean quartz]

Much better naming

[pale shell]

Okie

[old wyvern]

use apply instead of repeating those

[obtuse gale]

why the hell can the equipment be null

[old wyvern]

armorStand.equipment?.apply {
    chestPlate = ...
    leggings = ....
    boots = ....
    ...
}

[pale shell]

?

[gusty glen]

bukkit, emilly, that's why

[pale shell]

you can do that yugi?

[old wyvern]

Yes

apply takes a receiver as its arg

[obtuse gale]

he wouldn't have done it if you couldn't

that would be rather stupid

[pale shell]

holy fuck, kotlin is cool

[old wyvern]

Wait till you start using haskell, shit gets real better 😏

[pale shell]

slow down your horses

I might learn haskell August -> September time

[old wyvern]

Sure

[pale shell]

am i the only one who will put the order of equipment setting in the code how it is on the player?

like helmet at top, then chestplate then leggings then boots?

[old wyvern]

doubt

[pale shell]

I've changed code btw

https://i.imgur.com/bH8TbIr.png

that looks better doesn't it

[onyx loom]

u can still put setItem in the apply

[obtuse gale]

what the fuck is this

https://paste.helpch.at/jenevafowe.java

[onyx loom]

with function if it wasnt null too 🙂

[pale shell]

=arrowcode

[onyx loom]

that is a thing of beauty emily

[pale shell]

?arrow-code

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

https://blog.codinghorror.com/flattening-arrow-code/

Requested by: UntouchedOdin0 • arrow-code

[pale shell]

that hurts.

[prisma wave]

?main

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

https://wiki.bristermitten.me/main

Requested by: Brister Mitten • main

[distant sun]

https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Potion/Before_1.9#Item_data can somebody help me with the bits part? Never been a fan of these

[gusty glen]

Opinions?

[old wyvern]

where is this masterpiece from?

[distant sun]

Ouch

[obtuse gale]

well craftbukkit of course

[old wyvern]

holy shit

wow

xD

[obtuse gale]

lmao

[distant sun]

Cant just check, for example, if the entity type is an instance of Ghats, instead of the 5 checks?

[obtuse gale]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I love how it says "Order is *EXTREMELY* important -- keep it right! =D" in all that clusterfuck

actually I want to see the git blame for this

[distant sun]

:))

[old wyvern]

Forget tree data structures, lets write actual trees in code!!!!

[obtuse gale]

xD

craftbukkit dude 🥲

[distant sun]

Hey

[obtuse gale]

n0

[obtuse gale]

Some dude named "Erik Broes" for the most part

"Nathan Adams".. oh Dinnerbone why

[distant sun]

Link

[static zealot]

https://i.imgur.com/xSjIFeT.png

amazing

[obtuse gale]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/browse/src/main/java/org/bukkit/craftbukkit/entity/CraftEntity.java#188-389
click the "blame" button on the top right

MBAX

NOOO

[distant sun]

Theres a thing called spaces

Also, that class got a recent update on march

[obtuse gale]

yeah, with the repackaging to the official mappings
https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/diff/src/main/java/org/bukkit/craftbukkit/entity/CraftEntity.java?until=90d6905b1587ac1c5c075e2da471f77d00e0f50d

[old wyvern]

wait what

Thats written by dinnerbone??

[obtuse gale]

parts of it yes

[old wyvern]

Someone fire that man please

[obtuse gale]

he was part of the original bukkit team, that's what got him in mojang lol

[distant sun]

Really? I thought he was already a part of it

[obtuse gale]

I believe he got in after

not sure

[onyx loom]

"professional" developers

[distant sun]

Said nobody ever about minecraft

[obtuse gale]

dev role when

[onyx loom]

🥲

imagine emily LMAO

[obtuse gale]

🥲

did you apply?

[old wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/loganpaul-im-sorry-logan-paul-gif-18708462

[obtuse gale]

again?

[old wyvern]

mojang rn

[onyx loom]

i havent applied ever

[obtuse gale]

oh?

[old wyvern]

Do it kali

[onyx loom]

so much pressure 🥶

[old wyvern]

pressure good

[onyx loom]

im sure if i write a haskell program ill scare the reviewer, making them accept me instantly

im sure thats my problem

[old wyvern]

Do it

[onyx loom]

hey gaby wheres ur role

[distant sun]

Unleash the VB @onyx loom

[steel heart]

lol

md5 lombok argument in spigot discored

[onyx loom]

oh god

[steel heart]

"Free getters, setters, tostring, equals, hashcode"

[old wyvern]

rn?

[steel heart]

ye

[old wyvern]

Lmao

Crusade?

[distant sun]

Ouch ..

[steel heart]

idk

[distant sun]

Pig was rude and didnt wanted to accept me :( but is ok, will try to reapply when guihelper is done xd

[onyx loom]

😮 😱 😠

i will have to speak to pig about this

[distant sun]

I got some hot ideas for that bad boy

[onyx loom]

u been working hard on it recently i see

it feels like ur first plugin update in forever 😔

[distant sun]

Yea .. not so proud

But will be worth

[ocean quartz]

That discord makes you lose brain cells

[distant sun]

Link @steel heart

[prisma wave]

clearly they've never heard of deriving (Eq, Show, Hashable)

[distant sun]

Also, change your name.

[old wyvern]

Whats the lomvokfaq?

[prisma wave]

?plsnolombok

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

Why is Lombok bad?

• It's a compiler hack - the Java compiler isn't designed to modify code, so it can cause difficult to debug errors, or worse
• It requires an IDE plugin, so unless you've properly configured Maven, Gradle and your IDE, you'll get hundreds of compilation errors. This process takes time too, it's not easy
• Lombok'd code won't show in Javadocs
• The code generation is often unpredictable and difficult to debug, and often you'll have to do it "the hard way" anyway
• Java is supposed to be explicit, Lombok hides a lot of key functionality into a subtle annotation which can be easy to miss
• While IDEs support it with a plugin, it's usually more difficult to find specific things, like usages of a getter because they don't exist in the source code
• Finally, Lombok'd bytecode doesn't match the source code, so it causes a pretty annoying warning in IntelliJ

Requested by: Brister Mitten • plsnolombok

[distant sun]

I agree that the boilerplate is annoying but lombok is not a substitute

[obtuse gale]

kotlin is

[distant sun]

Well yea, if you REALLY want to get ride of the getters and setters then use kotlin, not fucking lombok

[ocean quartz]

Let's make a boilerplate free Java, with blackjack and hookers

[distant sun]

You really like those two, dont you? :))

[ocean quartz]

Ofc

[distant sun]

Help

[prisma wave]

@old wyvern https://x0.at/L_b.png pls help

Couldn't match expected type ‘Value’ with actual type ‘T.Text’

HexString {value :: T.Text }

[obtuse gale]

Look at you, haskell prayer

Kneeling down

[prisma wave]

ofc

[distant sun]

Man that looks so bad

[prisma wave]

probably because it doesn't work

[unkempt tangle]

rg.bukkit.plugin.UnknownDependencyException: Unknown dependency KBukkit. Please download and install KBukkit to run this plugin.

how?

[boreal needle]

im pretty sure i used lombok in one of my plugins

[obtuse gale]

yes you have

[boreal needle]

oop

guess I know what im doing tomorrow then

[obtuse gale]

tf is that

suislide?

[ocean quartz]

Ticket for 2?

[obtuse gale]

make it 3

[boreal needle]

make that 3

[obtuse gale]

lol

[steel heart]

I think records killed md5

[boreal needle]

the existence of java above 8 killed md5

[steel heart]

netbeans

lombok

hmm

uh

yes

[onyx loom]

🤣

netbeans killed me man

[obtuse gale]

yeah lol

[boreal needle]

ok i have a serious question here

[ocean quartz]

It's more like he is killing himself lol

[obtuse gale]

he just shut lol

[boreal needle]

im going to redo an old plugin that uses Lombok

part of it has a public API

this api is literally all interfaces

[obtuse gale]

yes, bump minor version

oh

then no need I suppose

[boreal needle]

do i port it to kotlin

or leave it as java and port the implementation

[prisma wave]

toJSON (HexString hex) = String (T.cons '#' hex) I fixed it 😄

[distant sun]

Wait, md wants to add lombok to spigot or was just a general discussion?

[boreal needle]

general discussion

[distant sun]

Oh thank god

[ocean quartz]

Bungee

[obtuse gale]

if he does that paper is gonna hard fork so goddamn hard

[distant sun]

Spigot.quality -= Long.MAX_VALUE

[old wyvern]

use the Value constructor

[distant sun]

Ik ik

[old wyvern]

String

oh

fixed

btw bm

spigot

[prisma wave]

uh

[old wyvern]

md_5

[boreal needle]

can paper just hard fork already

[old wyvern]

lombok

[obtuse gale]

Proxi said the earliest it could happen was on 1.17 release

[prisma wave]

Data constructor not in scope: Value :: T.Text -> Value

[onyx loom]

not only lombok

HASKELL!

[ocean quartz]

Lombok in haskell!!

[boreal needle]

what do i do?

[distant sun]

😡

[distant sun]

What does that mean?

[boreal needle]

theyll stop updating upstream

[old wyvern]

md_5 has attacked haskell!!! All forces unite!!!!

[obtuse gale]

yeah they wouldn't rely on spigot anymore

[prisma wave]

https://github.com/knightzmc/hrypton

[onyx loom]

🥲

[prisma wave]

it's here

[obtuse gale]

in essence: paper would become its own bukkit impl

[distant sun]

Thats a wonderful idea!

[old wyvern]

good

md_5 must be stopped

at all costs

[distant sun]

^

[prisma wave]

@old wyvern invited you to hrypton

[old wyvern]

Ayy

[steel heart]

Lol

Invite me too

[onyx loom]

CONCLURE

change ur name

[prisma wave]

NO

[steel heart]

bruh

[old wyvern]

Anyway, gn

[steel heart]

I see that you’re scared of impurity

[old wyvern]

Have exams tmr

[steel heart]

Gn

Gl

[prisma wave]

gn

[onyx loom]

impurity in haskell? impossible

[steel heart]

Ok

Changed

[onyx loom]

😐

[prisma wave]

it is pure

100% functionally pure

[steel heart]

😂

So like why no invite

You have to welcome your enemy (:

[prisma wave]

absolutely not

[steel heart]

Then I shall make jrypton

[onyx loom]

😳

krypton inception

kinda

[boreal needle]

skrypton when

[prisma wave]

Do it

Coward

[forest pecan]

its a good thing and a bad thing

for plugins

[prisma wave]

Oh no I almost forgot!

Fer·nan·do Pó·ov

[onyx loom]

Fer·nan·do Pó·ov

[prisma wave]

😌

[boreal needle]

what does that mean

[oblique heath]

Fer·nan·do Pó·ov

[obtuse gale]

it doesn't have a meaning

[forest pecan]

Fer·nan·do Pó·ov

[prisma wave]

Fer·nan·do Pó·ov

[onyx loom]

Fer·nan·do Pó·ov

[obtuse gale]

it's a spirit

you give it the meaning

[prisma wave]

It's an emotion

Elation

[onyx loom]

😌

[obtuse gale]

F

[prisma wave]

Esctasy

[obtuse gale]

:)

[prisma wave]

WHAT

[oblique heath]

what happened to the guy anyway

[prisma wave]

Fer·nan·do Pó·ov

[prisma wave]

He has taken residence in the dkim den

A foul hovel

[oblique heath]

oh my

[ocean quartz]

Speaking of which, I haven't seen Dkim today

[onyx loom]

impressive

[prisma wave]

Fer·nan·do Pó·ov

#off-topic message

Blessed message

[ocean quartz]

Did he die?

[obtuse gale]

Does relocation affect resources or only class and package definitions?

[ocean quartz]

Only classes and packages i think

[onyx loom]

https://skribbl.io/?juiqBp62uhPE

[obtuse gale]

Hey, does anyone know how to reference a config variable with multiple string lines?

  - "Line one!"
  - "Line two!"
  - "Line three!"```

[onyx loom]

config.getStringList

[distant sun]

Any idea when were potion ids removed

[ocean quartz]

1.13 I think?

[obtuse gale]

I believe all "magic numbers"/numeric IDs were removed in 1.13

Maybe for some things they were migrated before, they have been planning that for years, but 1.13 was the ultimatum definitely

[distant sun]

Found it, 1.9

Who the fuck thought that a numeric system is better than what is used now smh

[obtuse gale]

[steel heart]

yes now hand me that lib

[onyx loom]

CONCLURE

change ur name

[distant sun]

@steel heart

Kalibear or nothing

[onyx loom]

NO

i am kalibear

[steel heart]

Ok

[onyx loom]

😐 😐 😐

[fading drift]

im a poor man wanting to make like $100 online

so far i have $17

i am mid way making a plugin for my smp

do you think it would be something people would buy

it takes stats for players and server

[distant sun]

@onyx loom i see no Kalibear

[fading drift]

and puts them on a webserver json

here is a pic from a few days ago

still wip

ok nvm

no pics

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

You won't be able to upload images here directly to avoid spam, so please use https://imgur.com/ to upload images/screenshots.
You can also use a screenshot service like gyazo or jinx and post those links here.

Requested by: GabyTM | RO • imgur

[fading drift]

but it's a json api

[onyx loom]

shut it you

[half harness]

uh

[frail glade]

👋

[half harness]

HIIII

🙂

[frail glade]

Only took 4 extra days.

[half harness]

oof

[scarlet raptor]

How can you send stickers? There is no stickers tab on Desktop and Mobile for me

[frail glade]

They are location locked.

• I believe require Nitro.

[scarlet raptor]

uh okay thank you

[fading drift]

i used to have stickers

[half harness]

nope

[half harness]

either that or put code in console || idk if its against tos but if it is plz no ban 🙂 ||

[fading drift]

you put code in console?

hmm

[half harness]

:/ intellij is recently being extremely slow

showing a million of the no memory warnings

it wasn't this slow before

before it would usually respond relatively quickly with

• no servers running
• one mc instance running, not in a server
• one project open
  now, it's literally not doing anything

it's been loading for at least like 5-10 minutes ;-;

[lost forge]

Got to love when people leave a 1 star review with an error but don't contact you to resolve the error -.-

[pale shell]

I've had that :)

Was the first review on my plugin, so I felt real upset about it

[lost forge]

I don't even get the error they posted... So....

[pale shell]

They managed to make an error you can't reproduce? Classic.

[lost forge]

Mhmm

And posted through review, so no way to help them resolve

[pale shell]

Oh, I had someone do that, reported the comment to spigot saying they didn't even attempt to join the support discord to get help and the review was removed

[lost forge]

Maybe I should do the same

[pale shell]

Worth a try, just put in the box they didn't attempt to contact you and directly put a 1 star review and they'll hopefully remove it

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/stylizer.78327/reviews#review-397902-1208675 this review right?

[lost forge]

YEah

[pale shell]

You use the same format in each of your update messages

Hey everyone,

<update message>

Thanks,
OmegaWeaponDev

:p

[lost forge]

😛

[fading drift]

how much ram

@half harness it didn't reply so ping

[pale shell]

Hey @lost forge check the reviews ;)

[lost forge]

Haha thanks 😛

[pale shell]

No problem, just trying to help out a bit :) the plugin looks real cool by the way! 🔥

[ocean quartz]

Gotta love those NPE dump reviews lmao

[lost forge]

Yep haha. Specially ones that can't be reproduced

[pale shell]

Matt, your pfp seems hungry. He's been eating ever since I first seen him.

[ocean quartz]

Tbh I am hungry, i should go get a kitkat

[pale shell]

lol

[lost forge]

Grab one for us as well while you're at it

[ocean quartz]

Sure thing, it's one of those that comes with 3 in the package

[pale shell]

3??

[frail glade]

3??

[pale shell]

I need to see this lol

[pale shell]

That's huge tf. Its the size of a pillow??

[pale shell]

WTF

You eat 1 of those

Only 1

[ocean quartz]

They are normal kitkat sized lol

[pale shell]

It's a share bag

Normal sized meaning you only eat 1 right

[ocean quartz]

I mean 1 at a time

[pale shell]

Then it goes back in the fridge?

[ocean quartz]

Hand for scale

[ocean quartz]

Depends on how hungry i am

[pale shell]

Hand reveal???

[ocean quartz]

There has been like 5 or 6 pics of my hand around here xD

[pale shell]

[ocean quartz]

You can easily find a picture of me on my twitter

[frail glade]

He just had to flex his engagement ring.

[pale shell]

If it was known that is, lol.

[ocean quartz]

And the kitkats 😎

[ocean quartz]

Easy to find if you know what to search for

[pale shell]

Is it just me who barely posts any pictures of themselves only?

[obtuse gale]

Matt do you bite your nails?

[ocean quartz]

yes

[obtuse gale]

noticeable lol

[ocean quartz]

Stress habit

[pale shell]

Same :(

I wanna break it but I can't

Idk if it's a good thing or a bad thing that my face doesn't exist online

[obtuse gale]

lol

[pale shell]

Yep I don't exist anywhere online face wise. That's good I guess.

[obtuse gale]

Not trying to sound rude but.. why does that matter

[pale shell]

Privacy?

[ocean quartz]

Privacy in 2021 kek

[obtuse gale]

yeah lol

[pale shell]

Alot of people don't really like their face to be found due to privacy.

[obtuse gale]

Not quite what I meant but I don't really have the words to form the question I'm trying to say

[ocean quartz]

Google probably knows exactly who you are, what you do, what you like, where you live, knowing your face or not won't change much lmao

[pale shell]

I mean, Google can know but legally they have to keep that confidential

[ocean quartz]

I'm sure they do

[pale shell]

A average human is worth $0.0005 to Google so

[ocean quartz]

Aight kitkat break done, back to slimjar

[pale shell]

Did you only have 1?

[ocean quartz]

Yes

[pale shell]

:o

You didn't send us one? :(

[ocean quartz]

It'd probably melt

[pale shell]

I mean, it's cold enough here for it to freeze.

[sweet cipher]

Best candy

[oak raft]

Trimmed fingernails

[half harness]

double ping ;-;
also, 8gb ram machine, i allocate 1.5gb of ram to intellij, but intellij still uses about 3gb ram :p

[forest pecan]

https://minecraftmedialibrary-wiki.readthedocs.io/en/latest/code/video/maps.html

how cool

readthedocs is so pretty

[lyric sandal]

okay but where can i find this ;o

[forest pecan]

?

Wdym

[lyric sandal]

like a .jar for that haha

[forest pecan]

Oh uh

It’s still in development

[lyric sandal]

ah

[forest pecan]

You have to compile it by yourself if you want the jar

[lyric sandal]

That shouldnt be an issue.

[forest pecan]

Do you know how to compile the code in maven

Currently only supports windows and Mac but I’m working to support Linux

[lyric sandal]

lemme check if i still have maven installed one sec. Did a computer wipe cant remember if i reinstalled.

[forest pecan]

Ok

[obtuse gale]

gradle wrapper 😌

[lyric sandal]

Yep still have maven installed!

[ocean quartz]

@half harness About what you said in development
If you see any big Kotlin lib you'll realize they work in explicit mode, so you'll see public fun, which isn't that much different than public void

[lyric sandal]

Its been a while though since ive used maven.

[forest pecan]

Click on the parent module

[half harness]

does explicit mode require : Unit? 👀

[forest pecan]

Then run ‘mvn clean package’

[obtuse gale]

clean 🤡

[ocean quartz]

I don't think so

[half harness]

phew

[forest pecan]

Well in my eyes it just clears the binaries

[obtuse gale]

what's so bad about an explicit return type @half harness

[forest pecan]

Mvn package will generate them if they aren’t existent, but if they are there it uses those

[half harness]

less text 🙂

[obtuse gale]

....

[half harness]

what

val someVariable = "a"
```vs ```java
public final String someVariable = "a";

[obtuse gale]

don't the official conventions/guidelines require explicit type for fields?

I remember Bardy saying that

[half harness]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[ocean quartz]

You can also compare

public val someVariable = "a"

To

public var something = "a";

[half harness]

😮

is that java 11?

[ocean quartz]

Anything above 10 iirc

[half harness]

ooo thats cool

[obtuse gale]

var was fully released in 10 yea

in incubation in 9

[ocean quartz]

The egg cracked in 10

[obtuse gale]

there's a caveat tho

you can only use them inside runnable code blocks 🤡 not in fields, exceptions or parameters

so lombok var good

jk

[ocean quartz]

It's a step in the right direction though

[obtuse gale]

I mean I'd rather use var than having to type

final Function<CommandTree<CommandSender>, CommandExecutionCoordinator<CommandSender>> executionCoordinatorFunction = AsynchronousCommandExecutionCoordinator.<CommandSender>newBuilder().build();

fucking cloud

[ocean quartz]

Lmao

[obtuse gale]

good use of !! :o?

or just stick ?. on every chained call :kekw:

[ocean quartz]

I'd add it on every chained call, !! is too unsafe

An example from Ktor

[old wyvern]

There are still use cases for when you should definitely use !! instead of ?.

Like when that nullable case is actually an unexpected state provided by some framework, failingfast is the best to detect errors rather than providing defaults

Using ?. in these places cost me a few days of debugging in a few projects

There are ofc alternatives that can also provide a message, either works

[old wyvern]

https://youtu.be/LR8fQiskYII

Haskell!!

[ocean quartz]

What a beautiful mustache

[lost forge]

Sounds boring

[prisma wave]

YES 😌 😌 😌 😌

[obtuse gale]

Does pass by value mean that like a copy is passed as a param? So if the method edits the param it wont edit the original var?

[prisma wave]

Yes

[obtuse gale]

and pass by reference just passes the memory address?

so if its edited the original will be edited

[prisma wave]

Pretty much

[neon latch]

Yo, im a dev and i purchased the Guilds plugin, I wanted to know if you could send the src code so i can see how you made this plugin

Its a very useful plugin for me and my friends!

[prisma wave]

It's open source lol

[steel heart]

Decompile it 🤡

[lunar cypress]

you're joking bm

[jovial warren]

nope, he’s not

he even stole my about apparently

[steel heart]

[jovial warren]

I wish BM would just contribute to the real Krypton

but I guess it’s finally time to find a new core team member

[steel heart]

He turned to the dark side sadly

[jovial warren]

not even sure if I can remove his ownership role or not

[steel heart]

Rip

[jovial warren]

finding a decent replacement will be difficult though I think

[old wyvern]

Hrypton ftw!

Haskell shall rule

Also

[jovial warren]

Hrypton is doomed

and you ripped off both my name and my about

[old wyvern]

just realized I have like a 5 days gap between my first and second exam for some weird reason

xD

[steel heart]

Hrypton is an abomination

[old wyvern]

yes! Kotlin deserves to die

[steel heart]

[old wyvern]

This is possibly the best exam schedule I have gotten yet

[jovial warren]

@prisma wave https://tenor.com/bbEm5.gif

[old wyvern]

😌

[jovial warren]

just not true

[prisma wave]

Of course not

Server list ping coming soon

[onyx loom]

🥲

[prisma wave]

Use a good language and I'll contribute 🙂

[steel heart]

Angular

[jovial warren]

right that’s it

you’re getting removed

[onyx loom]

woah is that in defence of him saying kotlin bad or just the fact that hes not contributing? 🥲

[steel heart]

Hi kaliber

[onyx loom]

shut it you

change ur name

[steel heart]

To what

[onyx loom]

Abow Conclure

[steel heart]

No I sold my name

[jovial warren]

fed up with him doing fuck all for the past months, and now he rips off the name and the about

with some project written in a “better language”

[onyx loom]

maybe it is a better language

[steel heart]

Ok now I changed

[onyx loom]

not good

[jovial warren]

conclure I swear

[steel heart]

😦

[onyx loom]

no impersonating mr conclure

[jovial warren]

I will find you

[steel heart]

Ok I will change

[jovial warren]

just reset your nick

[onyx loom]

^

[steel heart]

[jovial warren]

what’s wrong with the name conclure anyway?

[steel heart]

Just bored

It’s like the most boring name ever

[onyx loom]

#off-topic message

[steel heart]

With all respect, my current name isn’t an impersonation

[onyx loom]

sus

[prisma wave]

🙂

But it is better

[steel heart]

No

Haskell is fine

But since it’s so functional it kinda sucks

[prisma wave]

Source?

[steel heart]

Me, and everyone except Haskell users

[distant sun]

So I need flags and position arguments for commands (minecraft), would be a bad idea to use something like this? https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-cli/ xD

[old wyvern]

Bm

Do you have any plan laid out on what all needs to be implemented?

Any sort of reference, Im free for almost this whole week, so might contribute

[old wyvern]

So you're implying that you're a haskell user? Another member 😌

[jovial warren]

No

He said him and everyone except Haskell users think Haskell bad

[prisma wave]

Everything

Atm I just want to get the server list ping working though

Then we can decide if we actually want to take this further

wiki.vg ofc for packet details

[old wyvern]

Alrighty

[distant sun]

Why ij gotta act so weird ... https://i.imgur.com/Gd7yM94.png

[prisma wave]

Kotlin bad

[lost forge]

Because ij has a mind of it's own most of the time

[prisma wave]

😭 😭 😭

[distant sun]

Also, I have used this task and now all my commits are fucked up 🤣 https://i.imgur.com/BCJAr4E.png

[hot hull]

L

[hot hull]

Nice bg

[distant sun]

😄

[old wyvern]

Reminds me of Steve Jobs

[prisma wave]

yes

I have been persecuted

[old wyvern]

🥲

But guess what steve made after he was thrown out

NXT

Or rather

Hrypton

[prisma wave]

😌 😌 😌

Soon to revolutionise the minecraft server industry

[onyx loom]

Krypton bad Hrypton good

[quiet depot]

haskell bad

[onyx loom]

🤨

evidence?

[quiet depot]

gut feeling

[lost forge]

All programming languages are bad in their own way

[onyx loom]

except haskell

[lost forge]

Including Haskell

[onyx loom]

please back up ur claim

[hot hull]

Especially haskell is what you meant

[old wyvern]

False claim

[distant sun]

Thoughts? xd

[old wyvern]

Yes that should be fine gab

[distant sun]

aight, now only if I could get this stupid ide to work 🙄

[steel heart]

Dud staph

[jovial warren]

Kinda asked for it though

[jovial warren]

Facts

[steel heart]

Objective facts

[jovial warren]

Also, gonna press X on you even managing to allow clients to see something in the world

You couldn't do it with MineKraft so I doubt you'll do it here

[hot hull]

Sheesh, weather do be nice af

[onyx loom]

i agree

apparently u can make an executable in java too

but the answer ur probably looking for is c++ or smth

Rider? i think

if u have jetbrains student thing

ah no CLion is the jetbrains IDE for c++

[hot hull]

Jesus Kali

[onyx loom]

but u can always use visual studio / vsc ig

[hot hull]

Sadge

[onyx loom]

i have to go out in this weather rn ☹️

looks like it

[hot hull]

Today was amazing, like 10+ in the morning so all I needed was a hoodie, and it's a bit windy rn so it's not too hot

Bitwise operator

[lunar cypress]

no

stream operator

[hot hull]

Oh didn't see it wasn't java eee

[lunar cypress]

out stream

why c++ PepeHands

wat

you can make executables with literally any language

also "making executables" isn't really specific

whats that

you want to make this for mobile or what

Don't see the point of using c++ for that

so much effort especially without an engine

You can make a game like this in anything

[hot hull]

Please say you're gonna use java, I want to see you want to commit sudoku when you're making the graphics

[lunar cypress]

maybe you'll have fun with godot

[onyx loom]

i can feel the rain starting rn 😩

[prisma wave]

WRONG

[quiet depot]

i will ban you

[prisma wave]

Bet

[quiet depot]

thx for bringing back soldier tho

[prisma wave]

you're welcome

[prisma wave]

I'd like to see you try

HASKELL

and F#

you cannot.

trolling

[steel heart]

Efe depends

[prisma wave]

neither

[obtuse gale]

That is non-compliance C++ 🤡

[prisma wave]

Embarrassing

[obtuse gale]

That is C++ified C

[onyx loom]

oh no

emily gonna break down now

[prisma wave]

"C with classes"

[obtuse gale]

Not even

[onyx loom]

also, why did efe select java syntax highlighting for c++ lol

[obtuse gale]

It's just C with cout instead of printf and new instead of malloc lol

[onyx loom]

how would YOU write that then

[obtuse gale]

Literally missing half of the program lol

[prisma wave]

Well firstly you make a new .hs file

[onyx loom]

bm has a point here

[obtuse gale]

lol

[prisma wave]

When do I not?

[onyx loom]

🌚

[prisma wave]

main = do

return ()

[onyx loom]

Fer·nan·do Pó·ov

[prisma wave]

Fer·nan·do Pó·ov

Pussy

[half harness]

data class 
``` 😌

what does @Data do, i forgot

but data class has a copy(params here) method

https://kotlinlang.org/docs/data-classes.html

🤢

kotlin properties

[prisma wave]

data
``` :relieved: :relieved:

[distant sun]

any news about 1.17?

[steel heart]

Custom block types or smtng with resource packs

[distant sun]

what?

[half harness]

example?

[prisma wave]

data Config = Config 
    { ip :: String,
       port :: Int }

Might have messed up the formatting but

[half harness]

wha

thats ugly

D:

[prisma wave]

why

[half harness]

data class Config(ip: String, port: Int)
``` 😌

[prisma wave]

classes 🤣 🤣

https://www.github.com/knightzmc/hrypton/tree/master/src%2FDataTypes.hs#L13 😌 😌

[half harness]

HRYPTON

TRAITOR

😡

[quiet depot]

oh god this is actually a real thing

I thought it was a joke

what the fuck is this formatting

[pallid gale]

.

[quiet depot]

‫.

[distant sun]

Agree

[half harness]

bm you summoned both admins

and a trusted

it's a sign

[distant sun]

"Delete repository"

[half harness]

hrypton doesn't have bardy on the team :p

[prisma wave]

what

[prisma wave]

What formatting

[half harness]

🤣 its haskell

[quiet depot]

horstmann shit

[pallid gale]

::

[prisma wave]

that's how you're supposed to do it ;-;

Haskell brace style

[half harness]

🤢

[prisma wave]

I will not tolerate this slander

[jovial warren]

Yeah Horstmann is awful

[prisma wave]

can your language automatically generate implementations of "interfaces"? No.

Does your language have native algebraic data types? Not really

[jovial warren]

Also, imagine not having access to Adventure smh

[half harness]

bARdY

hes a tTRAITOR

[prisma wave]

imagine needing adventure 🤣

[jovial warren]

Imagine trying to make a full server implementation in a trash language like Haskell 🤣

[steel heart]

Skript

[prisma wave]

Imagine not

Nice "type system" you've got there

[hot hull]

Imagine having to keep switching languages because you're too lazy to finish a project 🤡

[prisma wave]

Aww, you can infer variable types? That's cute

[jovial warren]

Nice awful brace style you got there

[quiet depot]

even md_5, who's known for his up-to-date practices (including using modern tools such as netbeans and maven), says haskell bad

[half harness]

haskell 🤣

[jovial warren]

[quiet depot]

guys

fun little forecast

5 mil messages in 100 days

[jovial warren]

What

Tf

[hot hull]

Y'all don't have lives

[jovial warren]

How

[quiet depot]

well

[pale shell]

only 5 mill?

[quiet depot]

we're at 4.3 mil rn

[pale shell]

that's rookie numbers.

[quiet depot]

and at a rate of 7k messages per day

[pale shell]

We need to get 10mill.

[quiet depot]

~100 days till 5 mil

[hot hull]

Great milestone

[half harness]

message #1

[quiet depot]

we have more messages than most servers odin 😦

[half harness]

message #2

[pale shell]

hi mitten

[jovial warren]

=flex?

[prisma wave]

A paragon of wisdom

[quiet depot]

the hek is a paragon

a polygon of wisdom

more like

man's literally a square

[half harness]

how do u get message amount

[quiet depot]

see

square

[prisma wave]

Oh my bad

[pale shell]

rectangle

[half harness]

triangle

[pale shell]

it's rectangles...

[lost forge]

Circle

[quiet depot]

it's an edged circle

[steel heart]

Mention one good thing about Haskell Alex

[prisma wave]

paragon
/ˈparəɡ(ə)n/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a person or thing regarded as a perfect example of a particular quality.

[prisma wave]

Everything

[pale shell]

Hipster - Mitten?

[quiet depot]

ok so

[steel heart]

Elaborate on everything

[quiet depot]

an edgeless cube is a sphere

but an edged sphere isn't a cube

mind blown

[prisma wave]

1 sec

I will get back to you on this

[pale shell]

you ok there piggy

[prisma wave]

About to get on the bus

[pale shell]

why

[steel heart]

😂

[pale shell]

he can't be going to school because he'll be late

[prisma wave]

Going back

[pale shell]

there's nowhere to go on his plankton sized island

[prisma wave]

home time baby

[jovial warren]

You going home already? Jesus

[prisma wave]

average 9-3 school timetable Vs 8-12 enthusiast

ez

[pale shell]

wtf

you only do 4 hours?

wait... what were you doing in the hour and a half after

[prisma wave]

usually it's 8-3 but my computer science lesson was cancelled so

[quiet depot]

ur classes go for 3 hours?

[prisma wave]

uh

[pale shell]

imagine even having lessons still

smh

[prisma wave]

This is my timetable today but CS was cancelled so home early 😎

[quiet depot]

1.44 to 1.36

[pale shell]

Weird times

[quiet depot]

ur class goes backwards in time

[pale shell]

yeah thats what i was thinking