dev-general

[pale shell]

?

[onyx loom]

kotlin has been preached here for atleast a year

yes, preached. lol

[pale shell]

First i've heard of

[ocean quartz]

More than a year

Way more

[onyx loom]

exactly

[pale shell]

Interesting

[obtuse gale]

lol I was reading this commend on SO about this "generic" hash function pattern IJ plugs when you create the hashCode method, y'know the pattern:

int res = first.hashCode();
res = res * 31 + second.hashCode();
res = res * 31 + third.hashCode();
// ...
return res;

And I love how it says "no-one really knows why it works well, but it does"

[ocean quartz]

Lmao @obtuse gale

[forest pecan]

minecraft is dumb

[ocean quartz]

What is that for Pulse?

[forest pecan]

the color palette

mc uses

[ocean quartz]

I know but for what, maps?

[forest pecan]

Yeah

[obtuse gale]

yeah it's one of those things it just works lol

[forest pecan]

you know

2 + 2

[obtuse gale]

yes

I know 2 + 2

[forest pecan]

its 4

but

no one knows why its 4

ok what

that makes no sense

lmao

[prisma wave]

We know it's 4 because we said it's 4

[forest pecan]

but

who said it's 4

like originally

[obtuse gale]

well it's 4 because we made the concept of numbers and it turns out and two elements added to another two elements ends up with four elements

but what is a number?

4 wouldn't be 4 if we never gave it a name in the first place

@Bardy 🥲

[forest pecan]

Ah yes

the sky is soap

[winter iron]

Anyone logged in 1.16.5 that can log on my server real quick

test

just need you to accept server resource pack and see if it works

[half harness]

anyone want to help me test bedwars :p

[obtuse gale]

Naa

[half harness]

D:

ive been pausing bedwars development for like 2 days now because of no testers ;-;

[obtuse gale]

Sorry, I'm too busy drowning my sorrows

[old wyvern]

I can join you to test if you want

[obtuse gale]

🥲

Why did it send twice

[half harness]

is that ur hand

[half harness]

😮 thx thx thx thx thx thxthxthx ththx thx

[obtuse gale]

no dkim that's my thigh

[ocean quartz]

Hand reveal!

[half harness]

hand RefvelA

[obtuse gale]

thigh reveal, Matt

[old wyvern]

Discord images are not working for me at all

[half harness]

no i meant is it your hand

[old wyvern]

lol

[obtuse gale]

Yes

[half harness]

yugi ill dm u the ip 🥰

[obtuse gale]

ADVERT

[old wyvern]

aight

[half harness]

smh

[old wyvern]

lol

[half harness]

also yugi ignore the tab

its the default configuraiton

[old wyvern]

the tab?

[half harness]

tab

tab key

tab thing

[old wyvern]

huh?

[half harness]

yk

[old wyvern]

oh

[half harness]

playerlist

[old wyvern]

alright

[half harness]

best domain

[old wyvern]

pepe.ga

[half harness]

iirc thats a free domain

[old wyvern]

Ok why is my discord broken

ffs

10/10 placeholders btw

[half harness]

😑

[half harness]

5 bugs already

;-;

[old wyvern]

Scoreboard is also broken

[ocean quartz]

Hand reveal, next to a giant citrus fruit

[old wyvern]

Glitchy af

[half harness]

fine for me ;-;

wdym glitchy?

[old wyvern]

Its jumping for me

[half harness]

like flickering?

[old wyvern]

Yes

[half harness]

jumping?

oh ic

[old wyvern]

"Growing and Shrinking" to be precise

[half harness]

lmao

[old wyvern]

Why does the buying from the shop always create a new stack in my inv

[half harness]

another bug

[old wyvern]

Look at yellows name in scoreboard

[half harness]

HEYY FIREBALLS WORK!11 yayyyyyyy

[old wyvern]

a"Tick"

[half harness]

?

[half harness]

um

[old wyvern]

broken

[half harness]

but

i also need to add autorespawn

ima just list bugs here so i dont forget:

[old wyvern]

Death shows respawn menu for 10 seconds

or maybe like 3

[half harness]

fine for me

uh

[obtuse gale]

Sexy

[half harness]

• shop makes new stack on buy
• shop ignores amount of items in inventory (iron & gold)
• upgrade shop has item flags enabled
• traps have this weird dollar sign in front of it AND IDK WHY
• no autorespawn
• i feel like tnt takes forever to explode
• scoreboard jumping
• parties won't work
• quickjoin doesn't work
• no bed destruction or trap sounds
• item doesn't go into attacker's inventory on death

[old wyvern]

The 360 no scope god zelda skyrim bridger has been defeaten

[half harness]

;-;

[old wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/niko-omilana-shush-gif-21311909

[half harness]

you didn't even kill me

:)

[old wyvern]

I didnt even have to

🙂

[half harness]

-_-

[oak raft]

graphics look clean af

game?

[ocean quartz]

Called Suffering™️

[forest pecan]

yo

matt

you have a ring?

Matt is a girl confirmed /s

[old wyvern]

Hes engaged

I think

[half harness]

😮

[old wyvern]

Might be the engagement ring

[forest pecan]

Wait he is?

[oak raft]

Yes 🤣

[forest pecan]

wtf lmao

how old is he

[old wyvern]

24

[oak raft]

47

[old wyvern]

25

[half harness]

2

[forest pecan]

24 and engaged? damn

[oak raft]

Ye that's a good age

[old wyvern]

^

[obtuse gale]

Sounds like a nightmare to me

[oak raft]

Matt's doing it right

[forest pecan]

that's very young lmao

but the younger the better

[oak raft]

Nah

[half harness]

better than 50 years old

or never 👀

[forest pecan]

old man sex

[oak raft]

^

[half harness]

uh

[obtuse gale]

pulse this is not the server

[half harness]

this is the wrong server pulse

[ocean quartz]

Dude you were talking about me having kids just the other week when you found out i was engaged and you didn't know again? xD

[half harness]

bad memory 🥲

[old wyvern]

xD

[forest pecan]

wait what

must've been the exams

i've had lately

🥲

[lost forge]

Nothing wrong with that, I'm 24 and married.

[obtuse gale]

WHAT

[forest pecan]

I'm used to hearing stories that there are people that are in the late 20's and not being married 🥲

there is nothing wrong with being married around 24 or 25 or around that age tho

[ocean quartz]

Hopefully i'll get married next year, if this pandemic doesn't get worse

[old wyvern]

ayy

[forest pecan]

stream the wedding

/s

[old wyvern]

Do it

room 1

[ocean quartz]

Lmao

[forest pecan]

Yes

[lost forge]

My Wife and I got married Feb last year, just before it hit. So we were lucky

[ocean quartz]

The stage

[old wyvern]

Yes!

xD

[ocean quartz]

Ayy nice!
This stuff hit pretty hard, we're on different countries but were visiting pretty often, but with the pandemic, it has been over a year now, hopefully next month things go well for us to visit

[forest pecan]

I invited an extra guest: my computer

for streaming on discord

[old wyvern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbO12Rxdar0

[oak raft]

Congrats

Oh wait you’re already married

[lost forge]

Lol

[obtuse gale]

Kinda late but it reminded me of this other one

[ocean quartz]

I have a few other ones as well xD

[lost forge]

I am sure you have tonnes of them Matt haha

[ocean quartz]

Ofc, certified weeb after all

[obtuse gale]

okay

@gusty glen https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/commit/2a67a9e51263ecec2626e52530f606542244077e

[gusty glen]

That was fast, I talked to him today

[obtuse gale]

the commit was 9 hours ago lol but yeah I asked him about it uh.. was it yesterday? or the day before?

[obtuse gale]

they are great ❤️

[gusty glen]

is the bukkit item serialization good enough that I can make it part of my lib (sc-cfg), have they fixed that weird bugs that used to happen?

[obtuse gale]

With non-exposed/""unknown"" (internal) NBTs?

I believe it's fixed in paper lol

[gusty glen]

okay, does it also serialize the PDC content?

[ocean quartz]

It should

[half harness]

whats better:
a) showing help message and error message (https://prnt.sc/12lqas0 for example)
b) only showing error message (https://prnt.sc/12lqb4b for example)

[obtuse gale]

that's actually something I never thought of

I always just show the "hurr durr players only" message and that's it

[ocean quartz]

I normally do player only message

[pale shell]

Bedwars?

[ocean quartz]

Yeah, you hit each other with a bed

[pale shell]

Oh

Why

[oak raft]

bro..?

[half harness]

?

[oak raft]

what's the point

of showing a help message

in console

[half harness]

lol

[obtuse gale]

@ocean quartz 👀 this IJ color scheme fits very nicely with the material ui https://gist.github.com/lucko/60d2b1ab9da449e6eae808cda355a095 ||(in case you didn't know: Editor -> Color Scheme -> Import Scheme... took me a while to find it lol)||

[oak raft]

Of course it's luck's

u just gotta remind me... 🥲

[obtuse gale]

lmaoo

nah he closed DMs everywhere after Pulse's "test" message 😂

[oak raft]

LOL

I guess pulse was the last straw

[obtuse gale]

@forest pecan consider yourself

ehem

lucky

[oak raft]

Forget plugins

Go become a comedian

[ocean quartz]

Hmm, it's alright, I still prefer my custom one
Plus, he's not using Atom one dark 😩

[obtuse gale]

it looks quite nice

I tried sticking it in clion

grave mistake 🥲

[ocean quartz]

This is how mine looks, I chose must colors, and i love it

\

[obtuse gale]

some things for whatever reason become straight up "unreadably" dark :(

I personally can't be assed to pick colors myself lol

that's why I tend to stick with default themes 🥲

[old wyvern]

Ok I swear discord isnt loading images anywhere for me

[obtuse gale]

too much work; not saying it's worthless, hell it really is, but uuugh

[old wyvern]

I thought it was only an issue on pc

I guess Im starting to get the same issue I had on git a month ago

No images

[ocean quartz]

It is a lot of work yeah, but it was bothering me with the old colors 😩

[half harness]

y no color

[ocean quartz]

Stupid function

[half harness]

uh

[half harness]

L

M

A

O

he might have meant rainbow

[ocean quartz]

Ah, I love people 🥲

[old wyvern]

Lol

[ocean quartz]

There is a comedian that made the same jokes on a standup let me see if i can find it xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifNEgwGACEQ

[old wyvern]

Lmao

[half harness]

🤣 🤣

[wicked hare]

hello world

so many famillar names wtf

[obtuse gale]

mhm

welcome to the helpchat

look at that backwards compatibility between 5 MAJOR VERSIONS

[old wyvern]

😌

[oak raft]

Heyyyy I know you

[half harness]

Heyyyy I know you

[gusty glen]

wait, were you testing?

[obtuse gale]

Nah that's a commit of the license plugin I use, when they upgrade to gradle 7

[gusty glen]

what's the license plugin you use, BTW?

[ocean quartz]

What is supposed to be nullable here

[obtuse gale]

license-gradle-plugin

https://github.com/hierynomus/license-gradle-plugin

I uh.. kinda want to get rid of it

[ocean quartz]

Also why did you make your name lowercase e? 😩

Oh wasn't it because there was no available

[obtuse gale]

Because discord was like "nah fuck you"

[ocean quartz]

Ah yeah, sucks

[obtuse gale]

Yeah indeed

"Fefo" as a nick and all regarding my identity as a male

[ocean quartz]

How am I supposed to help? It's 5am and i'm astill awake

[gusty glen]

but wait, we don't have genders online, I mean, do we?

I kinda treat SecretX as a persona

[obtuse gale]

Lol

I mean in general terms I treat everyone as they/them unless otherwise specified, but you are what you identify as

[gusty glen]

lul, that's exact the purpose of my nickname

[old wyvern]

The bound of a generic is Any? by default matt

[pale shell]

Daily time

[gusty glen]

what do you need

[obtuse gale]

Hold on a second

[ocean quartz]

Oooh yeah, I remember having this issue before, the fix is <B : Any>

[old wyvern]

Yea

[obtuse gale]

Man Java generic wildcards are weird

[old wyvern]

ffs, this single class refuses to load

xD

[ocean quartz]

Very <? super ? extends ?>

[old wyvern]

Captures

Captures are the devil

[obtuse gale]

Required: capture super of ?
Provided: capture super of ?

🥲

[old wyvern]

🥲

[obtuse gale]

Wait a second

If you're referring to "this" class loader

Shouldn't you be able to just refer to and use the class "directly"?

[old wyvern]

Yea the this is redundant, I just prefer using that normally, so just typed it out of habit in the evaluator

[ocean quartz]

Fucc, just found out that you can't do function extensions for a java class like a static method 😩
For example Property.create() doing Property.companion.createExample() doesn't work because Java has no companion, so having Property.createExample() is impossible

Fu yole, it's been 4 years

[old wyvern]

@JvmStatic

Kotlin has annotations to get over those issues

[ocean quartz]

[old wyvern]

No

[ocean quartz]

Doesn't work though, how would that be?

@JvmStatic
fun <B : Any> Property.createExample(property: Test<B>): Property<B> {
}

[old wyvern]

Ahh its an extension

[ocean quartz]

Yeah

[obtuse gale]

That's sad

[old wyvern]

It should be PropertyKt.createExample

[ocean quartz]

Property is Java though, which is why I can't

[old wyvern]

No matt I meant another class

PropertyKt

[ocean quartz]

Oh

Hmm

[old wyvern]

Kotlin should generate that

[ocean quartz]

I might just go the lazy way

[old wyvern]

Can you try if that works?

[ocean quartz]

Can you give me an example? I still don't understand xD

[old wyvern]

Like just calling

PropertyKt.createExample(...)

From your java source

[ocean quartz]

Oh, though that's not what I want Yugi

[old wyvern]

Ah, theres no other way for extensions to show up in java otherwise

Do you have access to the Property class?

As in, is it from a dependency, or your class?

[ocean quartz]

Let me explain a bit better
I have Property.create() which is Java
In kt, I want to create an extension like Property.createExample() to use in Koltin
But I can't create an extension to be like a static method without a companion

[old wyvern]

ahhhh

I misunderstood the question

My bad

yea

[ocean quartz]

It's alright ;p

Did it the lazy way

[old wyvern]

xD

[ocean quartz]

Over worked but looks so nice

I love that you can reference companions like that

[old wyvern]

lol

matt

wait

hmm

[ocean quartz]

Waiting xD

[old wyvern]

testing

yea no that didnt work xD

fun main() {
    Human.test()
}

object TestCompanion {
    fun test() {
        println("Hello")
    }
}

val Human.Companion
    get() = TestCompanion

This is what I tried btw xD

[ocean quartz]

It's sad xD
Maybe one day, let's blame Andrey

[obtuse gale]

Classic kt devs

[ocean quartz]

Ikr

[old wyvern]

Andrey bad

Simon good

[hot hull]

Cowell?

[old wyvern]

Peyton

[gusty glen]

@ocean quartz how did you publish your libs?

[old wyvern]

Are you asking about publishing to a repo?

[gusty glen]

I mean publishing it like to maven central or something

how do I make them available to be downloaded through gradle for anyone

[old wyvern]

For central you need to apply

You could host your own repository tho

https://maven.apache.org/repository/guide-central-repository-upload.html

Matts framework is

lol

[hot hull]

Imagine not having your own dedi to host repos 🤡

[ocean quartz]

Central is very annoying, you need to apply, set up domain, make sure to publish sources, javadocs, and sign it with gpg
I decided to host my own stuff, more freedom, like deleting versions, etc

[old wyvern]

Isnt yours on central matt?

[ocean quartz]

Until a certain version, but I want to move everything to my own repo

[old wyvern]

ah

the mattstudios website doesnt show the new repo btw

[gusty glen]

how did you create your repo?

[ocean quartz]

Yeah haven't updated there
Got a few things i want to change, renaming the libs, packages, changing domain, also making my own wiki, hopefully soon i can finish it
First thing I'll release with everything setup will be the gui lib
Still not sure if it should be dev.triumphteam:gui:version or dev.triumphteam:triumph-gui:version i suck at naming things :weary:

[ocean quartz]

Got a vps and installed jfrog artifactory

[old wyvern]

ah

[obtuse gale]

net.luckperms:api:version 🤡

[hot hull]

just gui Matt

[ocean quartz]

Is that really how he did it?

[obtuse gale]

Yeah lol

[ocean quartz]

Interesting

And yeah Frosty i was thinking about just gui as well

[hot hull]

Since everyone knows you're a trump supporter anyways

[old wyvern]

oh btw matt, we hit another issue xD

[gusty glen]

do you have it hosted locally?

[ocean quartz]

Fucking trump ruining a nice name 😫

[old wyvern]

xD

[ocean quartz]

On a VPS

[ocean quartz]

What is it? xD

[old wyvern]

bidienteam when?

[ocean quartz]

It's triumph not trump, Frosty just can't read 😩

[gusty glen]

would you mind sharing the name of the service provider?

[ocean quartz]

I got mine from OVH

[old wyvern]

dmed xD

[hot hull]

@ocean quartz u awake?

[jovial warren]

OVH good

Hetzner better :)

[onyx loom]

mzungu best

[jovial warren]

Who?

[lost forge]

Last I heard, OVH was decent.

[onyx loom]

https://helpch.at/host ofc

is mzungu down?

[jovial warren]

Noooooooo

[old wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/dwayne-johnson-dont-cry-jumanji-jumanji-welcome-to-the-jungle-be-strong-gif-9846304

[onyx loom]

🙁🙁😭

[old wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/big-hero6-its-okay-be-cool-fine-okay-gif-4000501

[lost forge]

https://tenor.com/view/there-there-cats-cat-dog-cheer-up-gif-14793531

[jovial warren]

Mzungu!

[old wyvern]

Um... what....

They want us to make a vehicle tracking system?

This is jumping straight from A to Z

[hot hull]

get gud?

[old wyvern]

🥲

[hot hull]

If you need help do ask, since by the looks of it your professor stoopid

[jovial warren]

lol

[old wyvern]

I would love some help 🥲 , I dont even have any idea where to start, I've messaged a lot of my classmates for but they havent seem to have done it either

https://www.intechopen.com/books/real-time-systems/kalman-filtering-and-its-real-time-applications

Thats the link given ^

[hot hull]

Oh god

Start with some basic image input, add the filter, ???, profit

[old wyvern]

🥲

Maybe Im misreading the assignment

But idk what else to interpret that instruction as

[hot hull]

Well you need to apply the filter to an image no?

[old wyvern]

Apply kalman filter for vision – based real time vehicle tracking system.

I guess

ohhh

maybe I just need to present an image and an image passed through that filter?

uh

[hot hull]

Possibly

[lost forge]

Just go with that.

[hot hull]

I have 18 missing assignments to go finish so cya 🤡

[old wyvern]

lol

[hot hull]

PE ofc

Cause our professor is dumb and actually gave us PE assignments during lockdown lmao

[old wyvern]

lmao

[jovial warren]

PE?

like physical education?

[hot hull]

Yes lol

[jovial warren]

oml

[hot hull]

Exactly

boutta shoot this mans kneecaps out

[jovial warren]

Frosty: thinks he’s done with assignments
teacher: https://tenor.com/bdZjt.gif

[hot hull]

They're also delaying so many tests so I probably won't be able to take the last week off, which is sadge

[jovial warren]

oof

[onyx loom]

helpchat needs to do this

[old wyvern]

Ok wait, I think I got what the prof means

I think its just to create instructions to apply the filter for that usecase using that link as reference

[jovial warren]

ez 👏

[old wyvern]

hopefully

[hot hull]

Imagine if he gave clear instructions

That'd be something

[old wyvern]

she*

but ikr xD

[hot hull]

it*

[old wyvern]

aight xD

[pallid gale]

they are set to auto and have been for awhile now

[onyx loom]

o nice

[unkempt tangle]

https://i.imgur.com/4JLTbFe.png

Anyone seen senpai?

[short adder]

does someone know java code here?

i need help

[compact perch]

There is no time to wait! Ask your question @short adder!

[winter iron]

^

[hot hull]

Ask away

[short adder]

How can i send pic

[hot hull]

?imgur

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

You won't be able to upload images here directly to avoid spam, so please use https://imgur.com/ to upload images/screenshots.
You can also use a screenshot service like gyazo or jinx and post those links here.

Requested by: Frosty • imgur

[short adder]

ok ill send the picture in a min

[lost forge]

If you're wanting actual coding help, #development would be a better channel, this channel is more for random development discussions

[short adder]

oh ok

im dumb at understanding and dont know how to put my screenshot in #development can someone tell me do i need a link or sum

[lost forge]

Upload them to imgur, then send the link

[winter iron]

Can anyone tell me if this link works for them. It is supposed to directly download the zip file
https://cosmo.senseiju.me/api/packs/fad44f24-4abf-491a-ab65-97ff21c583c4?type=zip

[short adder]

workd

[lost forge]

It works

[short adder]

pack.zip

[winter iron]

then why does it not work when in game

like accepting server resource pack

to download it

it doesnt do it

i get the message and all but it just sits at Making request 100%

[cinder flare]

Might have a redirect or something

[winter iron]

The web app is running Ktor in a Docker container being proxy passed by nginx

is that the issue

[cinder flare]

i mean i dunno, is that the direct link? like does curling that work?

[winter iron]

Ye

curling and using --output works

[cinder flare]

huh

then I do not know why that wouldn't work

[winter iron]

If i run the container locally on my pc and use my dev url

it works fine

so i think it might be nginx

but idk why

[short adder]

since no one is talking in development ill post it here. i intended it to be when you fill a bucket with water its supposed to spawn primed tnt at you, and it says it works the plugin.yml is correct too, but the execution of tnt spawn doesnt work https://www.dropbox.com/s/vzxvyb38h9nqciv/image_2021-05-07_133918.png?dl=0

sadge

[lost forge]

=paste

[compact perch]

HelpChat Paste

Please use a paste service to share configs, errors, code and long logs.
• HelpChat Paste

[short adder]

?

[lost forge]

An no one is talking in development channel because no one has asked anything

[short adder]

=paste

[compact perch]

HelpChat Paste

Please use a paste service to share configs, errors, code and long logs.
• HelpChat Paste

[short adder]

oh ok

[hot hull]

This a java 15+ thing or?

[old wyvern]

Thats just string's constructor? or am I missing something? @cinder flare

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/lang/String.html#String(java.lang.String)

[cinder flare]

#dev-general message

maybe it's just Kotlin

but I swear it was also kind of in Java

[hot hull]

probably kotlin

[cinder flare]

well, whatevs

[old wyvern]

Thats just a factory function in a sense

[cinder flare]

i dunno man, read the entire convo we had

[short adder]

oHH this is the most important question

which java se is the best for 1.16

[hot hull]

15

[short adder]

am i doing it wrong by using 1.8

[cinder flare]

i mean, Paper won't support Java 8 plugins starting in 1.17

so at least go to 11

[onyx loom]

did frosty just not recommend latest?

[old wyvern]

ah I see, rarely seen people call it constructor functions. Im pretty sure the actual term for it is a factory function

[short adder]

ummm

i think thats why they dont work

[cinder flare]

among other reasons, yeah

[old wyvern]

What* does work golden?

[short adder]

what?

[old wyvern]

.

[short adder]

My plugins dont work because im using java se 1.8 not 11+

i think so

[old wyvern]

No

[onyx loom]

they do work on java 8

[old wyvern]

Java 8 is the currently suppourted one

Paper is making a full switch to Java 11 in the upcoming version

Not released yet

java 8 should work completely fine, for now

[short adder]

thanks. best information i've had yet

those google searches lead me to oracle

[cinder flare]

😬

[short adder]

are there sites that show you in minecraft coding not basic java

[hot hull]

Kali, half the plugins break on 16 hence 15 :3

[short adder]

because then it will be easier for me to understand

[short adder]

.

[onyx loom]

kek, enforcing encapsulation 😃

[onyx loom]

there might be, but im not sure that would be the best way to learn if im honest. learning basic java will show u the actual language ur coding in, rather than inferring what things do from the spigot API

[short adder]

ah

[old wyvern]

If you see minecademy, turn away, do not go near that hell hole

[jovial warren]

Lol

[jovial warren]

You should always learn basic Java first, as it is a core part of programming in the language

[steel heart]

Just use static and you’ll be fine

[onyx loom]

whats OOP?

never heard of that before

[obtuse gale]

It's when something goes wrong and you go oh oops

[steel heart]

OverengineeredObjectPoop

[onyx loom]

and i oop

[obtuse gale]

If it's small enough of an issue you just oop

[hot hull]

@obtuse gale Stop bullying me nerd

[obtuse gale]

Lmao

[hot hull]

If you're using a non shit IDE it has tab complete

[steel heart]

NetBeans pog

[onyx loom]

ur playing a dangerous game

[steel heart]

https://ms-paint-i.de/ thank me later

[obtuse gale]

"glorified text editors like Eclipse"

[onyx loom]

ok now that i can get behind

[obtuse gale]

That's way too nice

[half harness]

this has got to be a joke

[steel heart]

It’s the very essence of life

[wicked hare]

yeah it's not like you invited me or anything

[old wyvern]

@quiet depot uhh do I have to rerun to create a new container everytime to add a user to reposilite?

attach and starting with the interactive flag doesnt seen to work

[quiet depot]

i’ve never used reposilite

[old wyvern]

ah

welp

Do you know anyone else here who has?

[quiet depot]

no sorry

[old wyvern]

ah alrighty

[pale shell]

its maven, hopefully nobody has.

[boreal needle]

you do know gradle uses maven repos too?

[pale shell]

oh ye

[quiet depot]

lol

[pale shell]

but gradle is better

[hot hull]

That makes no sense

[pale shell]

?

gradle is better tho?

[quiet depot]

gradle doesn't have its own repository format

[jovial warren]

Gradle does actually have something Maven doesn’t in terms of artifacts: variants

a solution to you having different versions of the same artifact targeting different Java versions

[obtuse gale]

when was this added

[half harness]

a long time ago :)

[static zealot]

yeah was there for some time

[obtuse gale]

shows how much I care about managing a guild lol

[old wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-confused-blinking-okay-white-guy-blinking-gif-7513882

oh btw piggy

got it to work

had to remake the container tho

had to use the i and t tags while creating

[ocean quartz]

I am now

[hot hull]

too late

[old wyvern]

matt

check pr

[ocean quartz]

Gotcha let me get out of bed xD

[old wyvern]

xD

[hot hull]

'tis 3:35pm

[prisma wave]

YO

[pale shell]

oh no @prisma wave is here

[prisma wave]

yeah baby

I'm here

Ready for anything this discord Could throw at me

[static zealot]

hello weeb

[prisma wave]

oh ffs

[static zealot]

guess you weren't ready for that

[prisma wave]

yeah I guess not ☹️

[static zealot]

wanna sit on my couch and watch anime? ||jk I don't like anime||

||but for you I wold do anything weeb||

[prisma wave]

I don't like anime either

so

no thanks 🤠

[static zealot]

well then we're going to watch something else then.

||C||ornHub maybe

[obtuse gale]

fucking weeb

[old wyvern]

Bring soldier back

https://tenor.com/view/drake-morphin-gun-shoot-weapon-gif-13537279

[prisma wave]

Absolutely not

Soldier boring

[old wyvern]

anime girl boring

If anything, use simon

[prisma wave]

anime girl simon

[prisma wave]

Boy*

[ocean quartz]

Cat girl Simon

[prisma wave]

please

[winter iron]

anyone can help me test smth [1.16.5]

pls

[dawn hinge]

No

[static zealot]

man I love this warnings yml [16:12:20 WARN]: [NexEngine] ============== DISCLAIMER ============== [16:12:20 WARN]: [NexEngine] > You're running an unknown Spigot fork. [16:12:20 WARN]: [NexEngine] > This plugin is designed to work on Spigot (spigotmc.org) only! [16:12:20 WARN]: [NexEngine] > You won't get any support for any issues unless they persist on regular Spigot. [16:12:20 WARN]: [NexEngine] ========================================

unknown Spigot fork. Its fucking Paper. Its spigot but next level you dumb monkey

[static zealot]

u still want help?

opening MC rn to test something as well so I can join and help u if u still need help

[winter iron]

yes plz

[static zealot]

dm IP

[cinder flare]

wtf is nexengine

and why is it such a boomer

[obtuse gale]

some shit that breaks luckperms lol

that's all I care about

[cinder flare]

wtf how does it do that

[static zealot]

pretty sure its the core for GoldenCrates

[cinder flare]

oy send me the ip too bro

[obtuse gale]

you'd be surprised by the amount of "core" plugins that break LP

[cinder flare]

how do they even

[obtuse gale]

I have no idea, 100% likely they mess with the underlying Permissible

there's like no other way lmao

[obtuse gale]

okay so

what would you guys/gals prefer?

private static final byte[] NIL = { };
or
private static final byte[] NIL = new byte[0];

[half harness]

second

[dawn hinge]

second

[cinder flare]

in the first one, is { } a byte literal of nothing?

[obtuse gale]

they are the same thing, both are an array with 0 elements in them

[cinder flare]

ah an array literal

[obtuse gale]

yea

[cinder flare]

the second is more verbose

and especially if you were in Kotlin or a modern language with type inference, new byte[0]; is very nice to have

[half harness]

emptyArray() 🙂

[prisma wave]

🙄

in really modern languages we just do []

[obtuse gale]

I see I see

I guess I'll go with { } then 🙂

[cinder flare]

😠

[obtuse gale]

lol

[static zealot]

someone wants to join my couch? I want to see if dyno finally gives a default role lmao

🥲

[cinder flare]

i thought the couch was only for you and your bots

[static zealot]

well I've been finally working on fixing it and allowing others to sit as well but dyno keeps ignoring me and doesn't give the Member roles to newcomers

[cinder flare]

awe man

well im always down to chill on a couch if you want me

[obtuse gale]

😘

[jovial warren]

private val NIL = ByteArray(0) 😎

[obtuse gale]

cool

didn't ask

[jovial warren]

also, will a 0 size byte array even allocate any memory? lol

[obtuse gale]

well the object itself

[static zealot]

@obtuse gale internet went down or what?

[obtuse gale]

unless it gets inlined or some fancy bs

[static zealot]

why did you make me play then? 😢

[jovial warren]

yeah that'll likely get inlined

[ocean quartz]

private val NIL: Any = null!!

[jovial warren]

does that even work

also, you might as well use Nothing

[ocean quartz]

Works totally fine

[winter iron]

@static zealot 🖕

[static zealot]

lmao @winter iron

[winter iron]

🖕

🖕

[static zealot]

hey not my fault you went all in

[winter iron]

I had pair of aces

[ocean quartz]

Kinky

[winter iron]

it is what it is

[static zealot]

gonna take the bot's money now

[winter iron]

just got lucky with ur straight

[static zealot]

ad become rich

and*

[cinder flare]

https://i.imgur.com/MoZrBEX.gif

boys rust is cracked

it knows what type list it is by the first thing you put into it

that is just so beautiful to me

[lunar cypress]

welcome to proper type inference

[cinder flare]

how have I gone so long without it I don't know

[hot hull]

What a beauty

[lunar cypress]

if you want to see this even more on crack, look at haskell or ocaml

[boreal needle]

dont say the h word

[cinder flare]

yeah everything being pure let's the compiler do like, a bazillion things right?

[boreal needle]

bm will be summoned

:O

[cinder flare]

that's what I read about

[lunar cypress]

This doesn't really have much to do with being pure

[cinder flare]

I just mean Haskell being pure lets the compiler funk stuff around

[cinder flare]

since referential transparency and all that

[boreal needle]

no hornies in the wholesome family friendly pg block game server!!!!

[obtuse gale]

loll

[cinder flare]

https://i.imgur.com/uxy3b2z.png

[lunar cypress]

sure, but afaik there's no need for that in the type inference algorithms they use

[cinder flare]

oh yea

[distant sun]

i32 bruh

[cinder flare]

yea?

Rust typing system go brr

[obtuse gale]

literally an int? lol

[lunar cypress]

I guess implementing type inference is a lot easier if you can stick to the mathematical definitions

[distant sun]

im talking about the name itself, shut up emilyy

[obtuse gale]

:(

[cinder flare]

i mean it makes more sense than the arbitary C-names we got

[obtuse gale]

I mean it's pretty explicit actually, I prefer it

[cinder flare]

why is short 16 bit?

[pale shell]

https://i.imgur.com/bHGD7PV.png I think something's up with the angles anyone able to notice an issue?

[cinder flare]

just cause C did it

i16 makes more sense

[static zealot]

@winter iron guess who won. Smh get good kid || I don't even know how to play poker but it was definitely calculated||

[lunar cypress]

C has short?

[cinder flare]

i think so

maybe not

well Java did it

[obtuse gale]

I believe it does

[static zealot]

seems fine to me

[winter iron]

I got scammed

so bad

[lunar cypress]

if it does you can probably implement short as 64 bit and it will be spec compliant

[obtuse gale]

I believe C has macros for int8_t, uint32_t etc and C++ has actual typedefs for them

[cinder flare]

yeah right

C not specifying sizes

int might be 32 bit

or it might be 3200 bit

[obtuse gale]

in the IC the arduino uno uses (cba looking it up) an int is 16 bits lol

it's just platform specific

cuz

¯_(ツ)_/¯

the definition of "word" varies from platform to platform

[boreal needle]

arduino uses various, mostly atmel avr based

atmega328p is the "standard"

[cinder flare]

lucyy the electrical engineer dang

[boreal needle]

nah i just know arduinos

[obtuse gale]

that's why I specifically mentioned the uno lol

[boreal needle]

before the 328p you had the the 168

notably used by the duemilanove

or you have the big chonker mega2560

[obtuse gale]

I have a mega...... somewhere lmao

[boreal needle]

i have one of the crap ebay knockoffs

also a fuck ton of esp8266s

esp <3

[prisma wave]

Haskell type inference 😌 😌 😌

something truly special

[old wyvern]

😌

[half harness]

lol im in this support discord for a plugin, and like a quarter of the people are asking for help in the api channel :p
then the server owner locked the api channel because no one was asking for api help in there, and then unlocked it again and people are asking in there again 🤣

whats with people and the word "api"

and he literally put a message in bold at the bottom of the channel to say not to ask if they didn't know what "api" meant

[hot hull]

What the hell

Is there seriously no method which get's the current total experience?

[half harness]

i mean theres a /xp command.. so theres gotta be a way

maybe bukkit's fault 🤷‍♂️

[jovial warren]

I mean, they store it in the NBT iirc so idk why they don't allow you to retrieve it

[hot hull]

Annoying af

[jovial warren]

also, any of you know how you can rebase without changing the committer?

like if I rebase, it'll change all the rebased commits to committed by me

[half harness]

|| doesn't even know what rebase is ||

[cinder flare]

oh god

[lunar cypress]

merge

lol

[cinder flare]

d;spigot Player#getTotalExperience

[ruby crater]

org.bukkit.entity.Player#getTotalExperience

int getTotalExperience()```

Description:

Gets the players total experience points.
This refers to the total amount of experience the player has collected over time and is not currently displayed to the client.

Returns:

Current total experience points

Requested by: Starmism • spigot

[jovial warren]

what if I told you that I've already done the rebase 🥲

and pushed it to origin

[cinder flare]

bruh

[jovial warren]

🥲 🥲

[hot hull]

Exactly my reaction Star

It's a dumb system

[hot hull]

bruh

[cinder flare]

what

[half harness]

wouldn't this work?

or what does it do

[cinder flare]

that works

[old wyvern]

?

[cinder flare]

i was saying bruh to Bardy

[jovial warren]

okay what the fuck

[old wyvern]

That works frost

[jovial warren]

now I am 11 commits ahead of upstream

what

[old wyvern]

I have used that earlier

[old wyvern]

gg

[jovial warren]

https://github.com/BomBardyGamer/LuckPerms/commits/feature/krypton I think I fucked up

[cinder flare]

rip LP for Krypton 🥲

[hot hull]

annoying

[jovial warren]

lol

is there no salvaging that history now?

[half harness]

can't you rollback git

[jovial warren]

maybe I could interactive rebase and manually remove the commits

[cinder flare]

yeah you can undo

[ocean quartz]

Gitkraken, ctrl + z 😌

[cinder flare]

is gitkraken good?

i've just used IJ's git integration all my life and it's been fine

[static zealot]

its good

[ocean quartz]

Very good

[jovial warren]

is there actually no way you can undo this? surely if GitKraken can do it then Git can do it

since GitKraken is just calling Git commands under the hood

[cinder flare]

i mean yeah I think there's something like git rollback

https://opensource.com/article/18/6/git-reset-revert-rebase-commands

[jovial warren]

https://github.com/BomBardyGamer/LuckPerms/commits/feature/krypton what the fuck

well this is fucked now

there seems to be no info on how to avoid changing the committer on rebase

[cinder flare]

just undo it

[obtuse gale]

Ctrl Z smh

[jovial warren]

https://github.com/BomBardyGamer/LuckPerms/commits/feature/krypton well that seemed to do it lol

had to hard reset to master then re-commit everything (made a patch file for the big one then just manually did the others lol)

[onyx loom]

next time dont be bad

(idk what happened)

[jovial warren]

I tried to remove the merge commit that came from me pulling from upstream and ended up with me as the committer for all the pulled commits, then did some stuff to try and fix it and nothing worked

[onyx loom]

ic

i do that all the time kek

[jovial warren]

lol

[ocean quartz]

I love how simple Ktor is to keep everything organized

[cinder flare]

ooh what are you using Ktor for?

[old wyvern]

His framework's documentation / git book typa thing

[cinder flare]

now that's cool

Matt is just a really cool guy

[oak raft]

He'd be even cooler if he released mf-config

[cinder flare]

blitz you mother fucker

[oak raft]

Also star, how did you personally learn Kotlin?

Docs?

[onyx loom]

it kind of is released

[static zealot]

yes I like to fuck your mother. how did you find out?

[oak raft]

?

[onyx loom]

idk if its on his repo tho

[onyx loom]

there u go

[static zealot]

it is

[cinder flare]

little bit of that, little bit of youtube videos, little bit of converting my current java to kotlin and seeing what happened

[oak raft]

😄

[static zealot]

been using it for a long while

but no documentation tho that's all

[oak raft]

I had no idea

[cinder flare]

but what about TriumphChat???

[oak raft]

ah shit I need documentation or I'll be lost 😅

[static zealot]

that's another story

easy peasy tho.

similar to ConfigMe since I think it is a fork of ConfigMe

[oak raft]

I haven't heard of ConfigMe

[ocean quartz]

Actually wanted to ask you, do you think this is a bad idea?
So, there is two ways of going about this
1 - Parsing markdown at runtime with react, a bit annoying to do, a bit less customization
2 - Parse with java and save it to a database to be retrieved with api request
I went with 2 but idk how good it is 😩

[ocean quartz]

I really want to work on it 😫

[oak raft]

Hello???? Numbers???

Wait

[ocean quartz]

See the profile picture I am eating the numbers

[oak raft]

everyone's numbers are gone

[old wyvern]

Id say parse it at runtime, it shouldnt be too slow, just have it run at client side and provide a loading screen

That way you dont have to worry about publishing changes to the db

[cinder flare]

WASM go brrr

[oak raft]

Ahhh makes sense

[cinder flare]

also is TriumphBans a possibility?

[old wyvern]

js has markdown parsers in npm right?

[cinder flare]

i need me a replacement for LiteBans asap

[static zealot]

object Settings: SettingsHolder {
    @Path("PATH-HERE")
    val settingsOption = Property.create(DEFAULT-VALUE)
}

val config = SettingsManager.from(CONFIG-FILE).confugrationData(Settings::class.java).create``` Pretty much all you need to know. And to get the property its just ```kt
val option = config[Settings.settingsOption]``` and then of course to reload `config.reload()` Idk if you're learning kotlin or what but this is kotlin

[ocean quartz]

Reason I went with the database rout is because of how much customization it gives and also allows me to pull changes from a separate git repo
Hmm I guess I can still change

[ocean quartz]

Probably not

[cinder flare]

why not 😦

[static zealot]

bcz LiteBans is good enough

[cinder flare]

is it?

i hear the api is poopy

[static zealot]

and if you want free then you can go for AdvancedBans

[cinder flare]

or I can make my own bans plugin!!! >:)

[static zealot]

tho LiteBans is not OS

[cinder flare]

yeah true

[static zealot]

time to make BlitzMenus I guess and sell it for 20$ on spigot. It will be a poor copy of DMenus but it uses MF-GUI

[old wyvern]

hmm, you should still be able to fetch the data from some other repo still

[oak raft]

Oh thanks

[static zealot]

[old wyvern]

But yea the db way works fine too

[oak raft]

Essentials Bans

[old wyvern]

i dont see any loss on either side

[static zealot]

Minecraft Ban

[oak raft]

No Ban

[old wyvern]

StarBanz

[onyx loom]

no minecraft

[old wyvern]

Banism

[ocean quartz]

Hmm gonna have to

[ocean quartz]

I normally make things based on my mood and what I want, never really cared much for banning plugins and stuff

[frail glade]

This is so weird. My IJ still says there's no Kotlin plugin update. I might just have to manually install.

[cinder flare]

and TOML? I'd pay for that

[static zealot]

Matt actually now. What would you say if we'd rewrite DeluxeMenus in kotlin and use your Lib? (Like a personal project of course not public or anything)

[onyx loom]

mf-gui instantly makes it better than dm

[cinder flare]

Stylized as *Bans

[static zealot]

is TOML that much better than YAML? I've never used TOML

[cinder flare]

i think so, it seems harder to mess up the formatting

[static zealot]

Well not really. There's no good way to update the menu for example

[cinder flare]

Rust uses it so that's my whole experience lol

[static zealot]

well you can techincally update each item

[ocean quartz]

Thought about something like that
Wanted to use Sx's syntax for the GUI
But 😫

[static zealot]

Sx's syntax?

what's that?

[frail glade]

Oh lord

It's actually pretty cool.

You can draw out the GUIs in the code.

[static zealot]

why have I never heard about that?

please link

[old wyvern]

😮

[frail glade]

I don't even know if it's public, is it?

[static zealot]

I don't have his github

[old wyvern]

How does it look glare?

Like strings

?

Does it work like crafting recipes?

[ocean quartz]

Something similar to this

[static zealot]

oh that's actually nice

I've seen something similar but it was used for blocks in a chunk in a plugin

[old wyvern]

Where does the checkerboard thing come from xD

[onyx loom]

that sounds like pain

[cinder flare]

bro what

[ocean quartz]

No idea xD
I can definitely see tons of fuckups from people messing with the formating though

[cinder flare]

that looks really hard to maintain

we thought YAML was bad lmao

[static zealot]

that is yaml

[old wyvern]

You could have a close enough k dsl

[onyx loom]

who needs that when u have mf-gui-kotlin anyway

[old wyvern]

Speaking of which

Imma start working on that pr

[cinder flare]

well I know but I mean the grid thingy lol

[cinder flare]

which one?

[static zealot]

well Idk I kinda like it

but yeah idk what ways people will find to fuck that up

[frail glade]

Okay but like, what about Slimjar

[static zealot]

so many ways xD

[old wyvern]

It works rn, but we had some trouble with getting it to download its own dependencies, so its sitting at about 300 kb rn

Is that fine?

[frail glade]

Oof

[ocean quartz]

We're working on it, we're having some issues with some dependencies, for example if we use everything, gson, asm, for example, it'd be 300kb
So we're thinking of ways to shorten it, like runtime our own dependencies

[old wyvern]

I was trying to fix that which is why the delay

[cinder flare]

wow 300 whole kb

so big

[frail glade]

Yeah it's fine. I'm gone this weekend anyways.

[onyx loom]

sir id like to inform u that pdm is only 70kb!

[cinder flare]

Where ya goin?

[onyx loom]

pdm good!

[frail glade]

Home

[old wyvern]

This is way lesser

Without the deps

[cinder flare]

Oh very cool!

[old wyvern]

lol

[onyx loom]

lol

[old wyvern]

45kb

[frail glade]

Mom is having surgery + it's mother's day on Sunday.

[old wyvern]

ha!

[ocean quartz]

It's not a lot but for a dependency trying to lower the size of your jar is kinda odd

[onyx loom]

pdm... bad?

[cinder flare]

dude 300kb is literally non-existent

[old wyvern]

The point of the lib is to help further reduce the jarsize, so keeping it minimal is important

[cinder flare]

well yeah but adding 300kb and removing 5MB is quite helpful I think

[static zealot]

I personally stopped using PDM lmao

[frail glade]

I mean it's probably fine for the time being. I can still slide under the jar limit if I need to.

[onyx loom]

same

[old wyvern]

I mean once we get it to load asm and gson at runtime, get get down to 45

[old wyvern]

Should I publish this as version 1.0.0 then?

[frail glade]

If you want to, sure.

[onyx loom]

can we pdm slimjar

[old wyvern]

Alrighty

[frail glade]

Don't do it just for me though since I won't be around to use it right away.

[old wyvern]

Ah alrighty, then Ill try to work the issue out in 2 days

[cinder flare]

i mean honestly, have you embed a little teeny tiny SmolJar that then downloads Slimjar which then downloads everything else

not a bad idea

[frail glade]

I won't really make use of it till probably May 20th or later.

[old wyvern]

ahh alrighty

[old wyvern]

lol

It should just download the dependencies itself into a container classloader

[cinder flare]

i mean I'm not even joking

actually have a little bootstrapper

[onyx loom]

🤨

[half harness]

when will slimjar be released for stable use 😍

[ocean quartz]

Yugi, I just had a bigbrain idea

[old wyvern]

👀