dev-general

[jovial warren]

dind

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?main

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

https://wiki.bristermitten.me/main

Requested by: Brister Mitten • main

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thank gold

[oblique heath]

just slap an extra layer of docker on it

[obtuse gale]

yo

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that fixed it

YO

[obtuse gale]

sup bro

[jovial warren]

dind = Docker in Docker

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DOYOU KNOW docker

@obtuse gale

please

[onyx loom]

🥲

[lunar cypress]

@obtuse gale get to safety

[onyx loom]

a mad man is on the loose

[obtuse gale]

@prisma wave whos that

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🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

[onyx loom]

oof.

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where do I start

[half harness]

lmao

first of all

[obtuse gale]

i am confused

[half harness]

it's not a 'who'

[obtuse gale]

bruh

[half harness]

second of all

[onyx loom]

shouldve listened to johnny.

u still have time

[half harness]

bm this is karma for not working on the tutorial 😏

[obtuse gale]

whos thatt!!!!!!

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QUIET

[half harness]

🙂

[obtuse gale]

Swifty welcome to #dev-general

thanks

[onyx loom]

the center of helpchat

[half harness]

if you can manage to survive the next few minutes

[obtuse gale]

the pinnacle of comedy

[half harness]

you can consider yourself a hero

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So imagine you have a friend who is is a set of platform as a service products that use OS-level virtualization to deliver software in packages called containers. That's docker

[onyx loom]

"a friend"

clearly ur friend rn

[obtuse gale]

very good friend yes

[half harness]

best friend indeed

[hot hull]

Anyone used Airplane before? And if so does it modify event priorities?

[onyx loom]

the friends that make u go mad are the best friends

[hot hull]

Cause this is completely fucking jank

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Enemy

[static zealot]

https://i.imgur.com/EwyaMiU.png

I love it

[jovial warren]

firstNotNullOfOrNull() okay wtf Kotlin

they're adding two new collection extensions, that's one of them

what kind of a function name is that

@lunar cypress https://i.imgur.com/kQaL0RR.png looks like they're adding new assertion functions that can take an error correction term, isn't that nice of them

[onyx loom]

late bardy

[jovial warren]

wdym

[onyx loom]

i posted this yesterday 🥲

[jovial warren]

🥲

[hot hull]

Why do you have compact discord tho

[obtuse gale]

you can search that, you know?

not like I have answered it already

[jovial warren]

because she's weird

[hot hull]

Fucking weirdo

[obtuse gale]

mhm

[hot hull]

Link answer

[obtuse gale]

no

lazy

[hot hull]

bruh

[obtuse gale]

it was something along the lines of "so I don't have to see X's ugly pfp"

[hot hull]

X's?

[obtuse gale]

someone

[jovial warren]

frosty.exe not responding

[obtuse gale]

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

[hot hull]

frosty.exe hasn't been responding for decades

[jovial warren]

lol

you ain't even been alive for decades

[hot hull]

Will be 2 in less than a year sheesh

Getting old

[jovial warren]

lol

[hot hull]

So much wrong with this

[half harness]

lol

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Kaitlin bad

Kotlin

Kaitlin too though

[obtuse gale]

I was gonna pick Caitlyn

[ocean quartz]

Fucking Andrey

[obtuse gale]

But I didn't

(:

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evil and useless

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Nice name

[lunar cypress]

good you didn't

I would keep associating it with the lol champion

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🥲

https://c.tenor.com/mErcWBSg078AAAAM/seal-lol.gif

[obtuse gale]

ew lol

good thing I didn't

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omg guys there's a new haskell-semigroupoids update out

Version 5.3.5-35 is gonna be so good

[obtuse gale]

oh?

do tell

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idk

Just saw it in the package manager update menu

[lunar cypress]

"semigroupoids"

[obtuse gale]

lol

[lunar cypress]

tf is that

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there's also "profunctors" version 5.6.2-18

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A Semigroupoid is a Category without the requirement of identity arrows for every object in the category.

A Category is any Semigroupoid for which the Yoneda lemma holds.

When working with comonads you often have the <*> portion of an Applicative, but not the pure.

I do not believe a real person wrote and understood that

[oblique heath]

after all this time, finally, professional functors

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at last

[obtuse gale]

what

[lunar cypress]

cyclic definition

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Oh great I invalidated caches and now gradle has completely died 🥲

[ocean quartz]

Now I can imagine Emily with a top hat and obsession with cupcakes

@hot hull Since you're very picky, bully me for this, thoughts?

[hot hull]

Clean, however could be a bit more modern

[ocean quartz]

What would you suggest?

[sweet cipher]

Remember to add light theme

[oak raft]

“Turn on the lights”

[hot hull]

Jump

[sweet cipher]

Duck

[hot hull]

some colors

nothing drastic, just some accents

[ocean quartz]

Ah, yeah that's next step, just mostly focusing on the alignment, font, and animations for now
Does the line on the left of the dropdown look okay? I copied that from gitbook

[hot hull]

imo I'd add an accent color to that

[ocean quartz]

Gotcha

[old wyvern]

Make the left bar wider matt

It feels a bit squished

[ocean quartz]

Hmm it really does yeah

Not gonna make it as big as Gitbook though xD

How about this?

[hot hull]

would need actual text to judge that

[obtuse gale]

gotta love the example

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???

[obtuse gale]

oh gee

that's a lot of undefined crap lol

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😟

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@jovial warren i had the same problem with the IJ haskell plugin, running stack update fixed it

[ocean quartz]

Are you saying that Haskell bad?!

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of course not

it was an easy fix

the intellij plugin is bad though

probably because it's made in scala 🤢

[jovial warren]

I mean, Scala has some nice features that Kotlin could really do with

namely, block type inference

but it's horrible I agree

[prisma wave]

haskell has everything inference 🙂

[oak raft]

it's also >><>><><!>>!><>>>????>><<<<>>????!!!!><<>>>>>>>><<<<<

all to print hello world

python is better

[old wyvern]

False

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false

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putStrLn "hello world"

[old wyvern]

main = putStrLn "Hello World"

yea lol

How much easier do you want it?

There is no public static void main circus

[oak raft]

meh

python is supreme 😎

oh what's that? you wanna print something to the screen in python?

ez clap

print("yes")

[obtuse gale]

static void Main(string[] args) 🤡

[jovial warren]

server: sends perfectly valid chunks within the view range
client: https://i.imgur.com/pGleOBP.png

https://tenor.com/wqTz.gif

[old wyvern]

string 🤡

Main

🥲

[obtuse gale]

C#🤡

[oak raft]

no

take that back

[old wyvern]

🥲

[oak raft]

rn

yugi

cmon ur a smart guy

[obtuse gale]

wtf

[oak raft]

c# isn't bad right?

[obtuse gale]

public static async Task<int> Main(string[] args) { }

[oak raft]

April fools was a month and 2 days ago emily

ur a bit late

[obtuse gale]

tell that to microsoft

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/programming-guide/main-and-command-args/

[oak raft]

wym it's fine

no issue

it's so good as a matter of fact

that unity even picked it up as it's scripting language

[old wyvern]

😔

I fell for it

Java betrayed me

[ocean quartz]

Microsoft be like, how can we make our language look different to Java, looks at static void main(String[] args)
Oh let's just change the capitalization! static void Main(string[] args)

[old wyvern]

🥲

tbf I accidently did end up deleting those rn trying to get the ss, only not permanently

[jovial warren]

lol

[obtuse gale]

why do you have jdk 8 lol

[old wyvern]

I have jb runtime for 11

[prisma wave]

what did you expect from EVIL java

[old wyvern]

LMAO

A guy sent me the assignment we had for php

this was on the last page xD

[jovial warren]

lol

[obtuse gale]

handwritten html 🥲

[jovial warren]

lol

[old wyvern]

yea he asked us to write by hand so "everyone doesnt just copy paste and submit"

[obtuse gale]

eh...

[old wyvern]

Yea most other assignments almost everyone submitted the same file

He said this way we atleast have to write it

[obtuse gale]

I'd rather write a dozen pages of assembly code by hand

plot twist: already have 🥲

[lavish notch]

literally writing code is a pain

It's torture.

[old wyvern]

lol

[jovial warren]

finally

see that?

[half harness]

gg

[jovial warren]

23 files changed, 404 insertions(+), 282 deletions(-) good to be back lol

I've replaced every reference of File that I can in Krypton with Path

including the plugin context's folder

so your data folder is now a Path rather than a File

dkim stop deleting messages smh my head

[half harness]

ok

[jovial warren]

someone please tell me how I can override a function that returns Future<World> and make it return Future<KryptonWorld> (KryptonWorld is the Krypton implementation of World)

ah nvm, declaration-site variance was my solution

[stuck harbor]

achoo

[reef marsh]

What is the best tab plugin? I don't care if I have to pay for It

[half harness]

don't spam channels

https://wiki.bristermitten.me/best-paid-tablist-plugins-for-spigot

[distant sun]

Any idea if having the hoppers set to transfer more than one item at a time + some items being added straight to hoppers' inventory would somehow set the item amount to 1?

[hallow crane]

https://wiki.bristermitten.me/the-worst-language-to-exist-in-the-world

[gusty glen]

lul

[obtuse gale]

hm never had that issue

[prisma wave]

Elixir apparently

[obtuse gale]

lol it took me here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_function

[lunar cypress]

beating him at his own game

you've added a couple urls I see

[old wyvern]

Took me here 🥲

[lunar cypress]

your screen is giving me claustrophobia

[old wyvern]

oh thats a smaller window

[obtuse gale]

what the fuck

die

[old wyvern]

Its just because Its not full screen

[hallow crane]

LMFAO

[lunar cypress]

are you using windows as your default now?

[hallow crane]

scuffed pc

[old wyvern]

Slightly better now

[obtuse gale]

no

[old wyvern]

No just had to finish some work

[obtuse gale]

Die Bart, Die

[hallow crane]

SCUFFED

[old wyvern]

oh btw yako

[obtuse gale]

Oh no no, it's German for "The Bart, The."

[old wyvern]

Actually needed some changes tbh xD

I forgot to implement a class and spent like 30 mins wondering why I was getting a NPE

[ocean quartz]

"No one that speaks german can an evil man"

[prisma wave]

I love that scene

[oak raft]

minimized discord not full screened 🥲

[old wyvern]

maximized*

[oak raft]

Thanks

This stupid plugin is rotting my brain

[onyx loom]

@prisma wave alan turing was ranked as one of the most influential people in history how does this make u feel

[obtuse gale]

gay

[oak raft]

that's gay

[obtuse gale]

why is this in my playlist? I don't remember adding it...

it's been sitting there for over a year, I don't remember adding it 🥲

[boreal needle]

early signs be like

[obtuse gale]

tbh lol

pretty good song though 👀 always liked classics

[obtuse gale]

Hey @ocean quartz remember this crap I did for the tooltips on command suggestions? To translate from adventure Components to brigadier Messages (nms chat component)
https://github.com/emilyy-dev/SuggestionsTooltipShowcase/blob/main/src/main/java/com/github/fefo/suggestionstooltipshowcase/ReflectionHelper.java

:yeefuckinhaw: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/commit/db464b099e4bce384fdf7cb36994b3f555c7690a

[ocean quartz]

Ayy so it's getting integrated into paper? That's pretty cool

[half harness]

LMAO IT BROUGHT ME TO HASKELL_ _ _ _

NO JOKE

bm

is this a sign

[oak raft]

why tf did it download this

bm what did you do to my computer

[obtuse gale]

I guess using brig as my go-to command library has its perks, literally as simple as this for example (I used explicit types to make it clearer but in reality I'd use var & static imports everywhere lol) https://paste.lucko.me/DuDjL0fAfa

Since the Suggestions is created naturally I can literally just stick it in lol

[ocean quartz]

Definitely adding that stuff to my framework once my lazyness passes and I work on it

[lost forge]

If it passes 😉 (then again, i can say the same for me, I still haven't tested the update for one of my plugins...)

[ocean quartz]

Does it ever pass 😩

I start working on something cool, then boom burn out on it

[obtuse gale]

Congrats! You've totally wasted over a day worth of time of your life over the past week 🥲

[ocean quartz]

I think you mean 7 days

[obtuse gale]

Oh shit it's monday

[ocean quartz]

Wtf is INI lmao

[half harness]

only 61% kotlin smh

[ocean quartz]

Well sir I have multiple projects

[half harness]

ic

i don't

D:

[ocean quartz]

In fact, I have way too many, someone save me please 🥲

[pale shell]

Ini is a type of configuration file system

Like

[owner] 
name=John Doe
 organization=Acme Widgets Inc.

[ocean quartz]

I have no recollection of opening any file of that though lmao

[forest pecan]

its actually pretty common one

like fps games have it

[pale shell]

^

What pulse said

[ocean quartz]

@prisma wave Oof

[ocean quartz]

No

[steel heart]

Java

interface ThickConsumer<A,B,C,D,E,F,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z> {
  void accept(A a, B b, C c, D d, E e, F f, H h, I i, J j, K k, L l, M m, N n, O o, P p, Q q, R r, S s, T t, U u, V v, W w, X x, Y y, Z z, A a, B b, C c, D d, E e, F f, H h, I i, J j, K k, L l, M m, N n, O o, P p, Q q, R r, S s, T t, U u, V v, W w, X x, Y y, Z z);
}```

interface ThickerConsumer<A,B,C,D,E,F,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z> {
  void accept(A a, B b, C c, D d, E e, F f, H h, I i, J j, K k, L l, M m, N n, O o, P p, Q q, R r, S s, T t, U u, V v, W w, X x, Y y, Z z, A a, B b, C c, D d, E e, F f, H h, I i, J j, K k, L l, M m, N n, O o, P p, Q q, R r, S s, T t, U u, V v, W w, X x, Y y, Z z, A a, B b, C c, D d, E e, F f, H h, I i, J j, K k, L l, M m, N n, O o, P p, Q q, R r, S s, T t, U u, V v, W w, X x, Y y, Z z, A a, B b, C c, D d, E e, F f, H h, I i, J j, K k, L l, M m, N n, O o, P p, Q q, R r, S s, T t, U u, V v, W w, X x, Y y, Z z);
}``` How epic?

Yeah

It’s pog

[hot hull]

Beak a leg Conclure

Funny how I knew that was you even with a new pfp and name :p

[lost forge]

Well the discord ID kinda gives it away...

[hot hull]

Without looking at it..

[prisma wave]

ENRAGED

[prisma wave]

Scala TRASH

[hot hull]

One day I am going to lose my shit

[lost forge]

lol

[hot hull]

I love how it's not even broken all the time

It's just sometimes

wat

You got mc opened by any chance efe?

1.16.5 ofc

@obtuse gale

eh I'll use an alt

I haven't yet so sure

join frosty.op65n.tech

[onyx loom]

yes dont join

he booted me offline before

[hot hull]

join again

[onyx loom]

wat

get good

[jovial warren]

Kotlin

(A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, Z)  -> Unit

Higher order functions are so good

[onyx loom]

nice

very useful

[steel heart]

Lower order functions tho

[lunar cypress]

this isn't a higher order function

[jovial warren]

what is it then?

[steel heart]

fun (conclure: (Unit) -> Unit): Unit {

}

Isn’t that a higher order function

Or if the syntax even is correct heh

[jovial warren]

that is correct syntax, and I thought that was a higher order function but I guess @lunar cypress says not

[lunar cypress]

that is a higher order function, yes

[prisma wave]

Function type

You could probably say "it's a first class function" but that sounds slightly wrong

[old wyvern]

Theres a diff between what you suggested and what conclure said, higher order functions are not just function, those are function which either return a func or take a func as an arg

[prisma wave]

A -> B -> C -> D -> E -> F -> ...
😌 😌

[old wyvern]

Those are generics

[hot hull]

Generics go brrr

[lost forge]

lol

[prisma wave]

Classes 🤢

[jovial warren]

oh btw, now we have chunk streaming, what should I add next to Krypton? block breaking maybe? hmm

[hot hull]

world gen 🤡

[jovial warren]

I’ll consider it

AbstractKryptonWorldGeneratorBuilderFactoryProvider 🥲

which then gives us the AbstractKryptonLayeredNoiseBasedWorldGenerator

and then finally, KryptonLayeredOctaveAndFractalNoiseBasedWorldGenerator

I might make the world generator standalone so others can use it

or I could just focus on trying to fix the bug with the missing sections

[hot hull]

I mean will probably be faster then mine

[jovial warren]

maybe

also gotta finish porting Starlight at some point

[mellow palm]

Does anyone have experience with #837974312451440661 ? Like does most of the requests get fulfilled?

[unkempt tangle]

What's the easiest way to replace a background of a video segment to greenscreen?

Don't wanna manually do that ;c

[cinder flare]

good luck nework lol

i spent hours editing a 5-second intro for a video i made where i masked out the background

it is not easy to discern backgrounds from foregrounds without a lot of contrast, which is what green screens (or chroma key, at it's really called) does

[lost forge]

Depends on what's being requested and who sees the request really. I think some don't get answered and some go really quick. It just really depends on the request itself.

[pallid gale]

From what I've heard a lot of the reasonable requests do get approached

[steel heart]

Yeah I mean most requests are getting fulfilled

[lost forge]

If no one responses to it after a while, you can always approach developers in the #837974311309934632 channel and find someone willing to do it.

[unkempt tangle]

Pytorch should help out here doesn't it?

[cinder flare]

hoo boy

i mean if you know how to use it and have lots of sample footage to train it, sure lol

maybe look at how like Zoom does it

but even Zoom is quite poor at emulating it

[unkempt tangle]

https://github.com/ntaraujo/gse

[hot hull]

Where as 90% of them aren't reasonable 🤡

[cinder flare]

give it a try, i'd be interested to see if it's any good

[old wyvern]

[Request] Remake windows
[Budget] 0.5$
DONT DM ME UNLESS YOU ARE SURE YOU CAN DO IT```

[unkempt tangle]

it does

https://streamable.com/v128uj

[cinder flare]

that video is okay for a scene not shot for that purpose, but it's a poor recreation of an actual chroma key

any reason you can't shoot the video with a green/blue screen?

[unkempt tangle]

cause I havent shot the video

[cinder flare]

yikes on editing other people's videos lol

[unkempt tangle]

The output isn't that good 😭

[cinder flare]

who could've seen this one coming 👀

[unkempt tangle]

welp

aww

need a hug?

thats mah boi

[quiet depot]

@cinder flare I think it gets easier over time

with more experience

I bet an experienced person could knock out what you did in much less time

like it takes me a good hour to make in gimp what takes cubes 5 mins in ps (cube started in gimp too btw, I'm sure he could also do it in gimp in 5 mins)

[jovial warren]

Join the club

I know what it's like

[cinder flare]

well kinda, but tracing every single frame and then correcting it takes a lot of time no matter what lol

you could spend days compositing in after effects

[quiet depot]

nah but people with experience probably have little tricks that they use to do it quick

[jovial warren]

There's nothing you can do

[cinder flare]

maybe but I've done it a few times before lol

i certainly am a little faster, but it all depends on how much time you put into it

you could do a quick job in an hour, or spend 10 hours perfecting it lol

[hot hull]

See this is a discord egirl, so it doesn't count 🤡

[quiet depot]

really

imagine being upset at getting rejected by a girl online

[hot hull]

Go outside

[old wyvern]

Why tf are you asking out random strangers lol

[cinder flare]

lol they didn't like efe cause they got banned from skyblock probably

[jovial warren]

In all seriousness, it was actually a real person, and despite this happening last February, I was still suffering from it in December last year

[quiet depot]

just don't ask people out

[jovial warren]

And I mean February 2020 not 2021 btw Frosty

[quiet depot]

life of solitude is the way to go

[cinder flare]

I mean you just move on. Doesn't matter in the long run eh?

Keep going, find some more people

every time you gain confidence and experience and it gets a little easier

[jovial warren]

Perhaps

[cinder flare]

you're like, basically 5 bardy, you got plenty of time lol

[old wyvern]

15*

I think

[cinder flare]

basically

[hot hull]

16*

[quiet depot]

nek minnit livin with mum at 40

[jovial warren]

But considering that was the first time I'd ever felt something for someone else before, it hurt me very, very badly

[cinder flare]

Very understandable, but I assure you there will be more

[jovial warren]

Perhaps

[cinder flare]

Especially since you're still in High School

most people don't want relationships during that time

Uni gets a lot better, trust me lol

[hot hull]

As terfs said the other day, worry about gains not hoes

Todays society is fucked

[quiet depot]

I don't think this is true at all

[cinder flare]

hmmm

[quiet depot]

loads of people want relationships during that time

[cinder flare]

maybe it's true in my state

[quiet depot]

loads of people shouldn't have relationships during that time though

[cinder flare]

i dunno, just my personal experience

[jovial warren]

I don't really understand why people care about me anyway, so I won't accept that even though I know it's true

[cinder flare]

growing up in mormon land is probably a little different lol

[old wyvern]

My uni is pretty strict on that tho 🥲

We have "PDA" officers

[jovial warren]

I have very little self worth and self esteem, so it's hard to accept that as the truth Star

[cinder flare]

yeah that's pretty weird

but most uni's are pretty vibin

[old wyvern]

mhm

[quiet depot]

yugi is that common in india?

[cinder flare]

lots of people go to uni solely to find someone to get married to lmao

[old wyvern]

Not in most universities

but VIT does it

monopoly

[jovial warren]

Yeah definitely not me

[cinder flare]

yeah that's what I was thinking, that Yugi just goes to a special school lol

[old wyvern]

Altho, yes, it is frowned about by the common people to have relationships before marriage

[jovial warren]

Yeah they obviously don't understand

[hot hull]

Fuck outta here with that

[cinder flare]

yeah true, public perception is quite a factor

[old wyvern]

No its followed in all its branches star

[jovial warren]

It's much easier to get over it when they hate you for it afterwards

[old wyvern]

Im pretty sure they just want to stay out of trouble

[cinder flare]

though I think the UK/US's views are pretty chill

[old wyvern]

Not that people dont do anything there

They just go out of campus to hang

[cinder flare]

yeah that's why policing that stuff is dumb

[jovial warren]

They don't understand what this is like for you

[old wyvern]

mhm

[hot hull]

sir this is #dev-general

[cinder flare]

i'd much rather have my roommates drink while I'm there to keep them safe and drive them home than somewhere else and risk them trying to drive themselves or something lol

and that philosophy expands to a lot of other topics in life lol

like drug policy, for instance

[jovial warren]

As I said though, rejection is so much easier to deal with when you're hated afterwards because you can kind of accept that they don't care about you

[cinder flare]

damn that's kinda true

sad to think about though

[jovial warren]

But this girl still kinda cares about me, and she has for the entire time kinda, so it was even harder

[hot hull]

Yea no Bardy

[old wyvern]

baited

[hot hull]

if she cared she would've showed you that, these hoes can pretend really well these days

I fell for the bait, and now I hate the bitch

[cinder flare]

god damn Frosty

[old wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/hoe-ho-ho-ho-santa-mery-christmas-gif-17740543

[jovial warren]

You don't know her lol

[cinder flare]

why are you so jaded

[jovial warren]

And you don't know me either

[hot hull]

Just telling you to stop being dumb and hoping what could have been instead of what was

[jovial warren]

Also, when I say she cares, I mean me and her are still kinda friends

[quiet depot]

oof

[cinder flare]

in a very pessimistic way holy cow

[jovial warren]

Jesus christ mate

[hot hull]

I'll stop :kek:

Before I tell too much truth

[old wyvern]

I mean if you dont wanna talk to her, just go tell her ig

Whatever helps you move on

[jovial warren]

Idk whether it's you messing around or you're actually this stupid

[cinder flare]

A common problem is the risk that you try to make a move then you lose them as a friend

[jovial warren]

I mean, I've mostly moved on by now, just saying that it was fucking hard

[cinder flare]

Which seems like a pretty big risk lol

Better to keep them as a friend than try and lose them

[jovial warren]

Yeah I got worried about that one

Luckily, that's not how it played out

[cinder flare]

Excellent!

[jovial warren]

And as much as I tried to push her away, I didn't fully

[cinder flare]

that's like, the best you can hope for honsetly

now you'll never wonder what could've been

[jovial warren]

I try to push people away because I don't like people caring about me because that means I have to consider how my actions impact them, which makes me make different decisions

[cinder flare]

well are those different decisions for the better?

[jovial warren]

And I have very little self worth and self esteem, so I couldn't really care less how my decisions impact me

[obtuse gale]

don't we all

[quiet depot]

I don't like people caring about me because that means I have to consider how my actions impact them
that's not how that works

jesus cares for all of us but I don't give a fuck about him

[jovial warren]

For me it is

[hot hull]

Lmao Piggy

[jovial warren]

No

It's because I care about them caring about me

[cinder flare]

pig with the hot take

[jovial warren]

And that no matter what I try, I won't be able to push them away

Because emotion isn't rational

[cinder flare]

Have you considered that maybe you shouldn't try to push them away?

Having friends is quite important to being fulfilled emotionally

[hot hull]

As much you are wise at development, life advices aren't really your thing Bardy

[cinder flare]

haha #dev-general

[cinder flare]

i mean he is literally like 16

[jovial warren]

I get frustrated by people caring about me because I don't understand it, and I don't like the idea of letting people down

[cinder flare]

development comparatively doesn't take that long to understand

[jovial warren]

I am definitely different from most people

[cinder flare]

life stuff like this takes decades

[jovial warren]

Or in the case of emotion, there is no understanding

[quiet depot]

nope, I've met so many people like you over the years, don't kid yourself, loads of people go through exactly what you've described

[cinder flare]

I mean, you don't understand emotions, but you get a lot more experience dealing with them

[jovial warren]

Yeah I keep getting told that, difficult to believe though pig

[cinder flare]

learning how to be happy and all that

[jovial warren]

Okay can we keep this channel name now and make a new dev general?

[quiet depot]

no

[jovial warren]

Wow

[hot hull]

Yes Star, exactly what I'm talking about, like 90% of stuff he's just said is complete kek which he'll realize when he gets older

[dawn hinge]

Come on pig

[cinder flare]

yeah but you are ultra jaded Frosty lol

a very bitter take

[unkempt tangle]

why no one welp me ;c

[cinder flare]

There's no good way to do what you want to do nework

you'd need to trace it manually if you want anything close to okay

[unkempt tangle]

@hot hull

[quiet depot]

frosty just be careful spouting shit like that

you don't want to be labelled as an incel

[hot hull]

"incel"

[quiet depot]

it's not a good thing

[cinder flare]

look up rotoscoping in after effects

[jovial warren]

Yeah I've been told that one enough times, and it's probably true, just difficult to believe

[hot hull]

Not saying you should listen to anything I say, that's just my perspective on shit

[jovial warren]

And annoying to accept because it does nothing for me

[hot hull]

So don't get offended if I say shit you don't like

[quiet depot]

it's not about that

it's for your own good

[jovial warren]

Frosty that's like saying "no offence" and then saying something offensive

It does nothing

[hot hull]

Well yea cause people are fucking snowflakes these days

[obtuse gale]

sure, sounds great in theory, except when quite literally every single ""friendship"" you've ever had they ended up discarding you like the piece of garbage they make you be

[cinder flare]

Well hating women and being misogynistic is kind of unpopular to most people Frosty

[hot hull]

Never said I hate women

[quiet depot]

it doesn't matter frosty, just speaking like that, people will make assumptions

[jovial warren]

I've somehow been lucky enough to not really have that happen

[quiet depot]

and that's the kind of thing that will fuck your life up

[cinder flare]

.

[hot hull]

Don't take everything I say literally Star

[cinder flare]

yeah that's definitely the perception I got

[lost forge]

That's why I don't have friends anymore 😛 Only those close to me and that's it. The more "friends" you have, the more drama in your life

[hot hull]

"these hoes" isn't aimed at everyone

[cinder flare]

Don't take everything literally?

This is the internet lmao

the home of assumptions and not being able to hear emphasis or anything

[quiet depot]

frosty whether you like it or not, you have to be careful on the internet, especially around this topic in particular

[jovial warren]

And I am autistic, it's in my nature to take everything literally

[cinder flare]

Most people read that for .5 seconds and start making assumptions about yo u

[quiet depot]

there are people who will take offence, and ruin your life because of it

[hot hull]

Grow a brain is all I'm going to say, if you want to assume something completely irrational, then be my guest

[cinder flare]

Frosty I am not against you, and I certainly believe that you aren't a horrible person

[hot hull]

Anyhow enough on this topic before someone gets offended 🤡

[cinder flare]

But saying stuff like that on the internet is not a good way to go about it

[jovial warren]

As I said, saying no offence doesn't make what you say any less offensive or acceptable Frosty

[hot hull]

dude..

[lunar cypress]

Since when is it other people's responsibility to interpret shit you say on the internet in your favour

[jovial warren]

Fair enough I guess

[hot hull]

Anyhow the earth is flat, have a great day

[dawn hinge]

Actually it's a triangle

[hot hull]

Shaped like a fiat

[cinder flare]

pentagram earth 👀

[half harness]

efe

is this irl friend?

[jovial warren]

The Earth is a four dimensional polyhedron wdym

[cinder flare]

After what they said, I don't think they want to talk to you anymore efe

[half harness]

smh

[cinder flare]

Probably best to just be a decent person and leave them be

Don't be the guy who gets rejected then starts insulting them

[jovial warren]

Specifically, it's a Great cubicuboctahedron

[hot hull]

wait, Sexagon, that's a great shape

[cinder flare]

i don't think a pentagram is a hexagon is it?

[prisma wave]

Crikey

What has happened here

[jovial warren]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-dimensional_space this is the Earth wdym

[cinder flare]

everyone got sad

frosty made some hot takes

[dawn hinge]

Speak American 💪

[cinder flare]

bardy doesn't believe in himself

uhhh

efe got rejected in a discord dm

[jovial warren]

Not what I said but ok

[cinder flare]

that's about the summary

[frail glade]

👀

[prisma wave]

Huh

So just a normal day

[quiet depot]

wb to dev general

[cinder flare]

.

[dawn hinge]

Go back 🤬

[prisma wave]

everyone in here with the self loathing

[quiet depot]

lol

[prisma wave]

We've all got better things to be doing that feeling bad about ourselves

Hopefully

[quiet depot]

ye

[obtuse gale]

ha

haha

[quiet depot]

i'm drawing cubic beziers

[prisma wave]

Go read a book or get a hobby or something

Exactly

[obtuse gale]

what a joker

[cinder flare]

im rewatching one of my favorite musicals for the 50th time 🙂

[jovial warren]

That means I don't care about myself, which also means I don't believe in myself but ya gotta be more specific lol

[jovial warren]

My ass

Also, I'm at school Alex

[cinder flare]

Alex 👀

[jovial warren]

What better do I have to do?

[prisma wave]

Learn

[cinder flare]

learn or something

[old wyvern]

Study?

[cinder flare]

talk to your classmates

make friends

[jovial warren]

Mr. Alexander Wood a.k.a Brister Mitten

[prisma wave]

yo

aka Semigroup Mitten

[jovial warren]

🥲

[cinder flare]

yea i know its just kinda funky to call bm his real name

[old wyvern]

aka Brister Monad

[obtuse gale]

aka Bridget

[jovial warren]

Who remembers Kotlin Mitten

[lavish notch]

Shout "Krypton > Paper"

[old wyvern]

Kotlin Mitten bad

[jovial warren]

The good old days

[lunar cypress]

DAE remember the old days 😔

[jovial warren]

Lol

[old wyvern]

Haskell >>

[obtuse gale]

I did

[cinder flare]

probably the administrators

[lunar cypress]

Me :)

[jovial warren]

Back when BM was Brain Mitten lol

[prisma wave]

My real name is Bridget yes

[old wyvern]

false

[prisma wave]

WHAG

WHAT

[jovial warren]

Stfu Alex

[old wyvern]

Kotlin bad

[jovial warren]

Kotlin on top

[lunar cypress]

Owned

[jovial warren]

Facts

[prisma wave]

Haskell increases braincells tenfold

[cinder flare]

no

[old wyvern]

^^

[jovial warren]

Keep telling yourself that

[old wyvern]

Instant boost

[cinder flare]

oof

[prisma wave]

before haskell: what's a monad?
3 years after haskell: what's a monad?

I have learned a lot

[old wyvern]

😌

[cinder flare]

i mean, exposing yourself to more langs and more styles of programming can only enlighten you

[jovial warren]

Shit happens mate, fluctuations in mental state are perfectly normal. You'll get past it eventually

[old wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/uno-shocked-tiktok-card-game-plus-cards-gif-17503338

[obtuse gale]

imagine if that wasn't staged lol

[old wyvern]

🥲

[cinder flare]

i like to believe it wasn't 🙂

[old wyvern]

I'd tear the cards out

[obtuse gale]

just like politics lol

[jovial warren]

She got owned

[prisma wave]

Dude yes just learn every language

Ez knowledge

[old wyvern]

😌

Prolog🔜 ?

[cinder flare]

why do you think I'm learning ML lmao

[old wyvern]

I've started rust

[prisma wave]

Sure, Prolog seems cool

[cinder flare]

[prisma wave]

ML 😖

[old wyvern]

Learn Elm star

Defeat the js tyranny

[jovial warren]

Oh no, not Prolog Mitten

[prisma wave]

Soon

[old wyvern]

🔜

[frail glade]

So like, if you premarital hand hold, do the officers yell at you or something?

[onyx loom]

hello

[cinder flare]

Probably more like kissing and stuff

[jovial warren]

Then perhaps we'll circle back around to OOP and imperativism

[old wyvern]

Oh thats only in our campus, not actual police officers

We have an agreement before joining

[prisma wave]

Fact Mitten

Rule Mitten

Clause Mitten

[cinder flare]

ah the good old "code of ethics"

[old wyvern]

It includes statements about this

[cinder flare]

same thing for BYU near me

[old wyvern]

6k rs so approc 100$ fine if you're caught being "too close" to a person of the opposite sex

[prisma wave]

Only if it's Go or Rust, neither of which are OO

[jovial warren]

How about "I don't have a brain Mitten"

[cinder flare]

god damn

[old wyvern]

and by "too close", im referring to hugging, kissing...ect...

[jovial warren]

Gottem

[cinder flare]

calm down Bardy, langs with functional and OOP tend to be the best

[quiet depot]

what if your sister goes to the same uni, and you just feel like a sibling hug

[old wyvern]

The agreement specifically allows "Handshaking"

[prisma wave]

How many languages do you know 😊

[cinder flare]

having all the ways to deal with stuff is the best

[old wyvern]

You'll probably have to explain to the guards ig, other than that meh

[jovial warren]

Fair enough

[cinder flare]

strictly one or the other ain't the best idea

[old wyvern]

Lemme check if I can find the hostel agreements

[jovial warren]

If you keep switching languages though, are you really enjoying them?

[prisma wave]

Yes

[cinder flare]

yes?

[jovial warren]

If you liked the language, you wouldn't've moved on from it, surely

[cinder flare]

that's like asking why you're learning Spanish after learning French

[prisma wave]

No burnout

[jovial warren]

You would've stuck with it

[cinder flare]

you just learn more and more

[quiet depot]

does this need a comma?

[prisma wave]

don't think so

[jovial warren]

Not what I meant

[quiet depot]

so you don't get burnout?

[cinder flare]

It is quite literally the samet hing

[prisma wave]

i.e "switching rapidly reduces burnout because you don't get bored of working with a single thing for a long time"

[hot hull]

Knowing more languages means you can swear a lot :p

[quiet depot]

ah okie

[cinder flare]

Different langs are different tools for the jopb

No reason to stick to one

The more you know, the better you can pick the right one for the job

[jovial warren]

Knowing a language and actually liking that language are two completely different things

[prisma wave]

If I didn't like it I wouldn't use it

[onyx loom]

bardy i think u just need to expand ur horizons

[quiet depot]

my dream is to one day be proficient in all popular paradigms

[prisma wave]

Same

[old wyvern]

Same

[prisma wave]

become a polyglot

[frail glade]

https://c.tenor.com/FIdjcp_MsX8AAAAM/amonguinho-among.gif

[old wyvern]

xD

[jovial warren]

I think memory has something to say about that one

[onyx loom]

for once? ☹️

whats that supposed to mean

[cinder flare]

memory?

[quiet depot]

my memory is excellent when I apply it to a particular thing

[cinder flare]

you can definitely get used to using the few popular paradigms

you don't need to know specifics, that's why google exists

[prisma wave]

At the end of the day, even if I don't end up using any of the obscure languages it's still knowledge that's interesting to learn

[onyx loom]

this

[old wyvern]

How many languages have you even tried?

You always seem to say Kotlin is better than other languages

[frail glade]

All of them but love 😂

[old wyvern]

xD

[hot hull]

How are finals going Glare

[cinder flare]

yeah he hasn't been online with that status message for a few days lol

[frail glade]

I wrote a 3,000 word paper yesterday

Have a presentation today

[old wyvern]

😬

[cinder flare]

oooof

when is it over?

[frail glade]

I got about 2 weeks left of finals.

[cinder flare]

dang dude!

we only have 2 weeks total of finals

[frail glade]

Only 3 more though across the 2 weeks.

[onyx loom]

almost there then

[quiet depot]

what subject waffle?

[frail glade]

Today is just ethics and Leadership

[quiet depot]

I've got 650 equations on this math project + a 7 page report to write (excluding the math)

[old wyvern]

god

[cinder flare]

damn dude

i got a 94% on my calc final on a good note

[frail glade]

Was supposed to have 4 or 5 finals but I have actually tested out of one of them apparently. We just had an exam last week and I had an A in the class after it so they gave me the option of the final or not and I turned it down since I would still keep my A in the class.

I've never gotten along with calculus.

[hot hull]

3k word essay

What in the actual fuck

[cinder flare]

what was it about?

[quiet depot]

my english essays are only like 700 words

[onyx loom]

how long did u have to do the essay

[frail glade]

That's only 10 pages Frosty. That's typically small compared to some you have to write in college.

[cinder flare]

only 10 pages

[hot hull]

What topic was it

[quiet depot]

.

[cinder flare]

not today piggy

the essay

also what's your major Glare?

[frail glade]

Same thing

Yesterday was the essay, today I present over it.

[quiet depot]

glare did u know we don't have to do gen ed over here?

[onyx loom]

🥲

[frail glade]

2 part final

[onyx loom]

presentations 😩

[cinder flare]

well what was like, the specific prompt?

[quiet depot]

star was shocked that we don't do gen ed

[frail glade]

Damn, I'm jealous Piggy.

[frail glade]

Computer Science

[cinder flare]

you're writing 10 page papers as a CS Major?

what class is this for dude damn

[onyx loom]

whats gen ed

[quiet depot]

something americans do

like general subject classes mixed in with ur major (like the subjects u do in school)

[cinder flare]

you take like one class in every subject to expand your horizons

round you out

[frail glade]

I'm planning to minor in Leadership

[cinder flare]

make you a better human being and all that

[onyx loom]

nah i dont think we do that here either

[frail glade]

Leadership Studies*

[quiet depot]

kaliber we just do it in high school

[cinder flare]

ah are you like an honors student Glare?

[hot hull]

ngl, y'all seem to have shit subjects for the topic you're studying lmao

[frail glade]

It really is.

I wish I could do just CS stuff

[cinder flare]

well you're minoring in Leadership

[frail glade]

I haven't officially declared that yet.

[cinder flare]

I only have to take like, 6 total classes over 4 years that aren't CS

[frail glade]

I wish.

I have 3 semesters left after this one.

[cinder flare]

3 semesters? did you not start in the fall?

[frail glade]

My major is typically 5 years

[cinder flare]

dude what college do you go to?

this seems hardcore af

[frail glade]

I mean I'm still pretty young. Doesn't bother me for the extra semester.

[oak raft]

Seemingly random but did you take all 3 sciences throughout high school glare?

[cinder flare]

extra semester?

if it's 5 years ain't it 2 extra semesters?

[onyx loom]

imagine not taking all sciences

[cinder flare]

I took Earth Science, Physics, and Biology lol

no chem for me

[oak raft]

I had to drop biology 🥲

[onyx loom]

fair enough star

chem is the worst

[oak raft]

Wym the worst

[cinder flare]

i know my roommate just failed chem and calc lmao

meanwhile I got a 94% on the final 👀

[onyx loom]

wym remence

chemistry bad

[oak raft]

Like the worst as in hardest or what

[cinder flare]

yes

chem is extremely hard

[onyx loom]

ig so

[cinder flare]

and very memorization based

[onyx loom]

and the most boring

[cinder flare]

you need to devote a significant amount of time to it

[frail glade]

I did some stuff in high school towards college but I could've done more. I was somewhat laid back until I got to college and actually got my crap together.

[oak raft]

Could be true, but I just feel like I don't need biology for cs

[quiet depot]

earth science lol

fat oof

[frail glade]

Dont get me wrong I still got good grades in high school, but I mean, that's easy.

[cinder flare]

yeah lol easy out

[frail glade]

I have taken geology classes

[onyx loom]

same glare

i didnt revise for anything in school 🥲

[cinder flare]

good luck, I am getting a Bachelor's of Science, so I need to take 2 advanced science classes essentially unrelated to my major lol

[frail glade]

I'll still be done with college by 21 I think.

[cinder flare]

what 21

a 5 year program?

[oak raft]

Chem and Physics

[cinder flare]

glare what universe do you live in

[frail glade]

I started college at 17

[cinder flare]

nope, Physics for Scientists and Engineers and Biology for Scientists and Engineers

17 + 5 != 21

[frail glade]

I can't math either

And I'm finishing in 4 and a half

[cinder flare]

ah that explains the "extra semester" comment lol

[frail glade]

Yeah

[oak raft]

Wut 🥲

[cinder flare]

yup lol

those are the harder versions of those classes

[frail glade]

Back in a bit. Lovely chatting with you all.

[cinder flare]

normies can take just like Physics and Biology

bye glare!!!

[oak raft]

Damn dude

[quiet depot]

lucky me with my "Bachelor of Computer Science, Majoring in Software Engineering"

[quiet depot]

no extra unrelated classes

[half harness]

hi piggy

[cinder flare]

y'all see that bill and melinda gates are getting divorced?

[quiet depot]

what

no

[old wyvern]

Are ya'll in B.Sc s lol

[quiet depot]

bscs?

wot dat

[old wyvern]

wai t what?

[oak raft]

What about you pig, which sciences did you take in hs

[cinder flare]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/business/bill-melinda-gates-divorce.html

[old wyvern]

bachelor of science courses

[lost forge]

YEah after 27 years

[quiet depot]

ah

[old wyvern]

oh damn

[quiet depot]

physics & chemistry

[old wyvern]

Wait are you already in college piggy?

[oak raft]

exclusive

[old wyvern]

😬

[jovial warren]

"Works at multi-billionaire"

[static zealot]

I love how the big question is "What will they do with the money?" xD

[dawn hinge]

They'll give it to me obviously

[unkempt tangle]

@cinder flare welp

I want it automated ;c

[boreal needle]

how many times is it safe to recurse before java dies

[obtuse gale]

well it depends

[boreal needle]

is it gonna be more than like 100 calls

[obtuse gale]

thousands probably

[boreal needle]

ah nice

[obtuse gale]

unless some asshat sets the initial thread stack memory to an absurdly high value lol

[oak raft]

This is eclipse isn't it...

[boreal needle]

i think so

[half harness]

yes

why don't school use jetbrains?

btw

[boreal needle]

brb gonna go bleach my eyes out

[oak raft]

dude notch made minecraft in ECLIPSE

[half harness]

just curious

[oak raft]

my school specifically?

[half harness]

thats why the code sucks 😛

[half harness]

mine too

[simple kestrel]

We use JetBrains IDE

[boreal needle]

you get eclipse?!

i get bluej

[half harness]

yes

[boreal needle]

or n++

[half harness]

what is bluej

[oak raft]

ye we're forced to use eclipse lmao

[obtuse gale]

"eclipse" is not the issue, "notch" is lol

[boreal needle]

barely even an ide

[half harness]

it was a joke

[boreal needle]

like borderline not a text editor

[obtuse gale]

he actually didn't know that much java to begin with

[oak raft]

noo

[obtuse gale]

and it grew.. horribly

[oak raft]

he was a pro

he made block game

https://youtu.be/BES9EKK4Aw4

[prisma wave]

Lots

[boreal needle]

cool

[prisma wave]

he's also a nazi now 🥲

[lunar cypress]

really depends

stack size defaults depend on your machine

[prisma wave]

yeah you can't say a single amount

But it's almost definitely more than 100 afaik

[lunar cypress]

yeah should be more than that almost anywhere

you can also set it manually

[prisma wave]

I wonder if a purely stack based language is possible

Like, no heap

[lunar cypress]

woop, my default is larger than expected

[boreal needle]

In March 2019, he was criticized for endorsing the QAnon conspiracy theory and calling transgender women mentally ill.

woooooo

[prisma wave]

classic

[lunar cypress]

I SO after 22466 recursive calls

[obtuse gale]

notch?

gee

[boreal needle]

guess im off to the psychiatrist then

[prisma wave]

o that's quite a lot

[old wyvern]

Doesnt that also depend on the method?

[obtuse gale]

wtf

[lunar cypress]

yeah sure

[prisma wave]

Yeah retirement did him dirty

He discovered 4chan

[old wyvern]

😮

Its been notch all this time

[lunar cypress]

Don't think notch is a qanon-ist from what I've seen, the one tweet that often goes around is pretty clearly a joke

[prisma wave]

oh maybe

Idk

[lunar cypress]

but judging from his other behaviour he could be

[prisma wave]

he certainly has some fruity views

[lunar cypress]

that's for sure

[quiet depot]

I saw a video about notch recently

[lunar cypress]

My favourite twitter moment last year was when he deleted his account to own the libs

[quiet depot]

a lot of the stuff said about him isn't true

there's a lot of stuff he does that isn't shown

good stuff

[old wyvern]

from what we were taught, that shouldnt be equivalent to a turing machine, just 1 tier below, a pushdown automata

[quiet depot]

lots of missing context in the pictures of tweets you see

[prisma wave]

lmao was that after GMTK asked him to?

[prisma wave]

🧐

[old wyvern]

the execution of the language bm

[quiet depot]

where'd my tag go

[lunar cypress]

barry didn't like it

lemme rephrase

[prisma wave]

🥲

[quiet depot]

ah

nah

i see in logs

[old wyvern]

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/introduction-of-pushdown-automata/#:~:text=Pushdown Automata is a finite,pushed and popped from stack)

[lunar cypress]

yes