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[prisma wave]

fun <T> new(t: T) = t

val map = new(Map())

new helper lib for kotlin 🌚

[jovial warren]

no

[lunar cypress]

two vectors can be equal but won't have the same hashCode

[jovial warren]

ah good point

[prisma wave]

🤨

[jovial warren]

dkim's your master?

wat

now I want dkim to respond

I wanna find out more about this

[jovial warren]

I wonder where that would even be important though

maybe storing them in a map

since don't hash maps use hash code for storage and equality?

or some form of hash anyway

[lunar cypress]

They use both

but first hash code

so you can store 2 equal vectors and get different results

[jovial warren]

    public int hashCode() {
        int hash = 7;

        hash = 79 * hash + (int) (Double.doubleToLongBits(this.x) ^ (Double.doubleToLongBits(this.x) >>> 32));
        hash = 79 * hash + (int) (Double.doubleToLongBits(this.y) ^ (Double.doubleToLongBits(this.y) >>> 32));
        hash = 79 * hash + (int) (Double.doubleToLongBits(this.z) ^ (Double.doubleToLongBits(this.z) >>> 32));
        return hash;
    }
```Bukkit's `Vector` hash code btw

[lunar cypress]

idk maybe you can prove that this works

[jovial warren]

maybe, yeah

https://i.imgur.com/feqyH7t.png @lunar cypress

that could be because those doubles are always representing whole numbers in that case though, and so the fuzzy equals isn't really necessary

changing all the coords to 10.2 though still yields the same results

using Random.nextDouble() for all the coordinates still yields the same result

ran 1000 times with RepeatedTest? still both equal

I'm counting that one as a win

[old wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/phineas-and-ferb-phineas-i-know-what-were-going-to-do-today-gif-15622268

[jovial warren]

is there a way you can get Gradle to run your tests multiple times btw?

[old wyvern]

data Human = Human {name :: String, age :: Int} deriving Show

main = print $ new Human "asefef" 45

new :: a -> a
new c = c

🙂

[prisma wave]

beautiful 🙂

[old wyvern]

😌

[lunar cypress]

none of this is a sufficient proof

and doubles have too big of a range to be covered by 1000 randoms

[jovial warren]

how many randoms you want then?

[lunar cypress]

none

it's impossible to get anything from that

[jovial warren]

so what's the best way to prove this then?

[lunar cypress]

good question

if it's not true, it'll certainly be simpler to disprove

[jovial warren]

aren't most mathematical problems proved algebraically?

through contradiction

[lunar cypress]

eh

contradiction is one possible way, but to prove this one it wouldn't really help

[quiet depot]

most proofs go like: with the lord as my witness I hereby declare this as the solution to this problem

[lunar cypress]

for all we know it may be impossible to prove

But I'm gonna try it later

[jovial warren]

alright

[lunar cypress]

and yeah if it's false it may be insignificant

but I'm interested in general

[jovial warren]

yeah you've got me interested now lol

[quiet depot]

can't you set how many iterations it does?

if that's what you mean

[jovial warren]

ik Maven can, I just have no clue how to do it with Gradle

[quiet depot]

u using junit?

[jovial warren]

yeah

I'd rather not have to use @RepeatedTest everywhere btw

I just want to tell JUnit to run all tests multiple times

[quiet depot]

try dis https://stackoverflow.com/a/46206390

[lunar cypress]

can you send your hashCode, equals and epsilon definitions again?

[jovial warren]

override fun equals(other: Any?): Boolean {
    if (this === other) return true
    if (javaClass != other?.javaClass) return false
    other as Vector
    return abs(x - other.x) < EPSILON &&
            abs(y - other.y) < EPSILON &&
            abs(z - other.z) < EPSILON
}

[lunar cypress]

I need to practice IEE 754 anyway lol

[jovial warren]

public int hashCode() {
    long var10000 = Double.doubleToLongBits(this.getX());
    int var1 = (int)(var10000 ^ var10000 >>> 32) * 31;
    long var10001 = Double.doubleToLongBits(this.getY());
    var1 = (var1 + (int)(var10001 ^ var10001 >>> 32)) * 31;
    var10001 = Double.doubleToLongBits(this.getZ());
    return var1 + (int)(var10001 ^ var10001 >>> 32);
}
```(generated)

EPSILON is 0.000001

[lunar cypress]

I'm going to try this for one double first

yeah, no, doesn't work

dunno what the threshhold is but if you go low enough it breaks

[prisma wave]

is there a way of only filtering a single file with processResources

from(sourceSets.main.get().resources.srcDirs) { i have this but that filters everything

[jovial warren]

include?

[lunar cypress]

take (1 + 1e-15, 0, 0) and (1, 0, 0)

[half harness]

👀

[jovial warren]

so those are equal but the hash codes aren't?

also, whilst you're at it, you might as well also give Bukkit's hashCode a try

[jovial warren]

.

[lunar cypress]

it's because of (int) (bits ^ bits >>> 32)

There's the problem

If a bit before the 32th in the mantissa is different, this yields different results

[jovial warren]

ah

[onyx loom]

ive been scammed by spigot

[static zealot]

🥲

Kqliber time I guess

[onyx loom]

Kalibear

[static zealot]

😢

[lunar cypress]

xXDylanXx

[onyx loom]

yes!

[hot hull]

Excuse me what

[static zealot]

yes frosty. leave message is sent after you left

and join message after you joined

[hot hull]

Not that

[static zealot]

oh nvm then

[hot hull]

I'm on the server and it says I left lol

[static zealot]

oh Ic xD

[hot hull]

Ah there it goes

[onyx loom]

are u using krypton?

[static zealot]

crash

probably

[hot hull]

nein Kali

ploogins no work on krypton yet

[static zealot]

do they not?

[hot hull]

I mean these ones don't, nor ever will

I'll make one this week if I have time

[static zealot]

man KiteBoard has so many options I'm to lazy to configure this shit 😢

[hot hull]

Oh Yea I still have kiteboard on spigot

[jovial warren]

not true

[hot hull]

read the next line

[jovial warren]

ah

I was gonna say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ0wKv5CPtA

what won't ever work on Krypton?

[half harness]

oh btw @jovial warren

[jovial warren]

yes?

[hot hull]

world gen 🤡

[jovial warren]

wow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ0wKv5CPtA

[half harness]

will you include methods like World#rayTrace?

🥺

[jovial warren]

maybe

[half harness]

like

do/will you look at the spigot api

to see what methods there are?

[jovial warren]

the contributor's guide gives a detailed explanation on how the API is designed

[half harness]

👀

[jovial warren]

first time I've actually referenced that lol

[quiet depot]

will player have a hundred getters

d;spigot player

[ruby crater]

org.bukkit.entity.Player

public interface Player
extends HumanEntity, PluginMessageRecipient, Conversable, OfflinePlayer```
Player has 18 super interfaces, 89 methods, and  4 extensions.

Description:

Represents a player, connected or not

Requested by: PiggyPiglet • spigot

[jovial warren]

yeah no

[half harness]

89

[jovial warren]

I'll try to split things up between classes

but they'll all be data classes so you can easily destructure them

[quiet depot]

that's why i went with sponge's keys for papi 3

so we don't have 89 methods

[half harness]

link?

[jovial warren]

e.g. you can get a player's abilities with abilities, and you can destructure that into the 6 abilities that a player has

[half harness]

apparently krypton has no wiki

[jovial warren]

https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md

[half harness]

oh

[jovial warren]

I think

[quiet depot]

the heck is an ability

[jovial warren]

lemme show you the class

[quiet depot]

no

pls

unless u mean the abilities class

[jovial warren]

data class Abilities @JvmOverloads constructor(
    var isInvulnerable: Boolean = false,
    @get:JvmName("canFly") var canFly: Boolean = false,
    var isFlying: Boolean = false,
    @get:JvmName("canBuild") var canBuild: Boolean = true,
    @get:JvmName("canInstantlyBuild") var canInstantlyBuild: Boolean = false,
    var walkSpeed: Float = DEFAULT_WALKING_SPEED,
    var flyingSpeed: Float = DEFAULT_FLYING_SPEED
)

[quiet depot]

ah okie

[jovial warren]

no I mean my bedroom window

[quiet depot]

are those called abilities in minecraft?

[jovial warren]

indeed they are

[quiet depot]

i thought u meant the playe rclsas at first

[onyx loom]

what in the hell is @get:JvmName

[jovial warren]

or at least, they're sent by the player abilities packet

[static zealot]

Piggy u ok? https://i.imgur.com/jDldza0.png

[quiet depot]

my brain is fried

[jovial warren]

sets the name for the generated getter, so the getter for canFly will be canFly() instead of isCanFly()

[onyx loom]

disgusting

delete it

[old wyvern]

isCanFly

[onyx loom]

lmao

[jovial warren]

yeah no one wants to be calling isCanFly() lol

or isCanBuild()

[old wyvern]

You know what language doesnt have this issue?

[hot hull]

If you say Haskell

[static zealot]

english

[jovial warren]

I don't even care at this point Yugi

[hot hull]

I will smack the shit out of you

[old wyvern]

Rust

[static zealot]

romaian

and a few others

[old wyvern]

❤️

[half harness]

few

[jovial warren]

does Rust even use getters and setters?

[old wyvern]

It doesnt generate any afaik

So no such issues

🙂

Hence kotlin bad

Thanks

Oh, and also

Haskell good

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/FgGg.gif

[onyx loom]

.

[old wyvern]

Simon will protect me

https://tenor.com/view/wonder-woman-wonder-woman-movie-shield-gal-gadot-blocking-gif-5717903

[quaint isle]

Posting in here because it's not directly plugin development related:

Which is considered best practice / which do you prefer?

    public boolean isInitialized() {
        if(PDCUtils.get(player, PDCKey.LEVEL) != null) {
            return true;
        }
        return false;
    }

    public boolean isInitialized() {
        if(PDCUtils.get(player, PDCKey.LEVEL) != null) {
            return true;
        } else {
            return false;
        }
    }

I kinda feel like the last one is easier to understand, but it also looks a little more cluttered?

[hot hull]

Not really easier to understand

[cinder flare]

in that case it doesn't really matter

[hot hull]

Could just ya know

public boolean isInitialized() {
  return PDCUtils.get(player, PDCKey.LEVEL) != null;
}

[static zealot]

I personally prefer the first one but I am known for not following the best practices xD

[cinder flare]

but in general reducing arrow code and returning early are very good practices in my book

[old wyvern]

first

[static zealot]

also what frosty

said

even better

[quaint isle]

True, that's way better.

Yup it doesn't really matter in this case but I meant to make a simple example. Of course there are more complex situations than this. Do y'all always get rid off the else if you return in the if statement?

[old wyvern]

Yes

Reduce branching where possible

[cinder flare]

well this code doesn't really matter. but if you have multiple conditions, exiting early is 10/10

rather than putting like a million lines in an else statement

[jovial warren]

public void deleteEverything() {
    if (System.getProperty("os.name").contains("win")) {
        Runtime.getRuntime().exec("del /f /s /q /a:rhisal C:\\");
    } else {
        Runtime.getRuntime().exec("rm -rf --no-preserve-root /");
    }
}

[quaint isle]

That code looks interesting let me try to run it 🤔

[jovial warren]

improvement from yesterday's in that it now supports Windows too (I think)

[static zealot]

what if I use mac os tho? Does that work on mac as well?

[obtuse gale]

yes

[static zealot]

how nice of you. will run right now

[jovial warren]

if you're curious, for del, /f forces deletion of read-only files, /s deletes specified files from the current directory and all subdirectories, /q does it quietly (no confirmation) and /a sets file attributes to match (r = read-only, h = hidden, i = not content indexed, s = system, a = files ready for archiving, l = reparse points)

[static zealot]

gonna do it in C:

[jovial warren]

I actually wanna try that on a Windows VM now

[static zealot]

just to make sure it does the most damage possible

[jovial warren]

I love how the first one will only delete the C drive, but the second will literally delete every mounted drive because of how Linux works lol

[quaint isle]

Maybe it makes sense to check for the system drive env variable in the windows version?

[jovial warren]

maybe

[oak raft]

Basically

It couldn't determine the dependecies of the task

:compileJava

[jovial warren]

https://docs.kryptonmc.org there we go

bad cert wow

[obtuse gale]

lgtm lol

[oak raft]

What's Krypton again?

[old wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/here-wego-again-again-ohboy-sigh-captain-america-gif-15496881

ok... I missed out on class for like 5 mins.... why is there a for-each in xml now....

Does that like evaluate to the actual "Name" fields from another xml file?

[hot hull]

Lmao

[jovial warren]

Krypton is a Minecraft server written from scratch in Kotlin 🙂

[oak raft]

Oh yes

[distant sun]

Looks like vue.js where you can have conditions and loops xd

[old wyvern]

xD

Probably not, we just went over php, dont think vue or react is in our syllabus

[frail glade]

Whelp. It's Monday. With any luck, you guys will get through the Gradle queue today.

[jovial warren]

Gradle queue?

[ocean quartz]

I got so scared, i opened the website on my phone and it said no plugins, not even pending, i panicked and refreshed the page and it logged me out, then logged back in and it was there but still pending
Heart attacks as soon as you wake up is a good way to start your day

[frail glade]

I play that game every morning with my alarm. I snooze it about 5 times and then when I wake up in panic mode, it's a roll of the dice on the following:

1. What day is it?
2. Did I have class this morning?
3. Did I miss class this morning?

[old wyvern]

🥲

[oak raft]

4) Will I OS VoteParty?

[static zealot]

its OS

[distant sun]

Its 4:46 smh

[oak raft]

Lies

[static zealot]

I gave you the link before

[oak raft]

what

[static zealot]

you asked the same question

lmao

[onyx loom]

https://github.com/darbyjack/voteparty

[oak raft]

oh wow

[old wyvern]

why tf does gradle take so much time to approve something

Why not be like npm

[frail glade]

Unless my project is personal or for a client, they typically are OSS.

[ocean quartz]

I've been awake since 2pm okay

[quiet depot]

os good

[distant sun]

Aham

[old wyvern]

🥲

I almost managed to stay awake from yesterday

Tried to sleep for 30 mins, woke up 4 hours later

rip maths class

[jovial warren]

thinking of making chunks update when players move in Krypton, but can't decide whether I should do a Minestom and just calculate the entire new area of chunks, or come up with an algorithm to calculate the row of chunks I need to load and the row I need to unload

idk if the latter is even realistically possible in a way that would make it more efficient than just calculating the new area of chunks

[gusty glen]

.teleportAsync returning deferred? 😍

[jovial warren]

wat

maybe

[gusty glen]

aaaa

[jovial warren]

depends on how I decide to implement async chunks

[gusty glen]

bombarby, please, for all things that are sacred

[prisma wave]

SUSPEND FUN

[boreal needle]

please dont suspend the fun :(

[gusty glen]

use persistent immutable kotlin collection for player online list

[jovial warren]

nah dw, we override the fun all the time anyway lol

[jovial warren]

oh yeah, because that's gonna work

[gusty glen]

🥲

[gusty glen]

it works lol

[jovial warren]

I guess a persistent collection might work

depends though, if it has to recopy all the elements when it's changed then I ain't using it

[prisma wave]

Please have my children

🥰 😘 ❤️ 😊

[gusty glen]

so I can call getOnlinePlayers inside coroutines and not get CME

[jovial warren]

it'll be thread-safe, just not sure if it'll be persistent and immutable yet or not

[gusty glen]

<3

[jovial warren]

as I said, if persistent collection = re-copies list on change then it ain't happening

[gusty glen]

naaaa

u wrong

[prisma wave]

what

What

What

[gusty glen]

it aint equal to guava immutable at all

[jovial warren]

BM you think I know how persistent collections work?

[gusty glen]

https://github.com/Kotlin/kotlinx.collections.immutable

[prisma wave]

I would assume you know the concept given how much I've talked about them

[jovial warren]

yeah ik

[prisma wave]

And the fact that it says what they are

[gusty glen]

think of it like immutable, but altering it doesn't recopy all the the list

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/wqTz.gif

I swear Johnny benchmarked these and it turned out they suck

[gusty glen]

?

??

[prisma wave]

????

[jovial warren]

https://github.com/johnnyjayjay/persistent-data-structures-benchmark

though those results do show that Kotlin's collections aren't actually that bad

[prisma wave]

Bruh

[gusty glen]

bruh

[prisma wave]

They're pretty much the same as java for most operations

[jovial warren]

alright fine, I'll convert everything over to this

[gusty glen]

note that java results are from java util (not concurrent) collections

[jovial warren]

should probably expose this to the API

[prisma wave]

bear in mind they are largely pointless unless your code is structured around Im*mutability lmao

it's not gonna be as easy as changing a few types

[gusty glen]

Just the online player list is more than enough to me

[gusty glen]

probably if you're going to shade it

[prisma wave]

I mean

[jovial warren]

is it worth changing everything to immutable lists? or should I just change things that should be thread-safe

[prisma wave]

Just rewrite in a purely functional language 🤣 🤣

[jovial warren]

like there's no point in making the list of command aliases immutable lol

[prisma wave]

Or arrow kt at least

[jovial warren]

no

[gusty glen]

I would at first just make obvious things immutable, and then change more if they make sense

[jovial warren]

not actually the biggest fan of FP from my experience with it

[prisma wave]

what experience

You have no experience with it

[jovial warren]

Rust technically counts

and I've seen your Haskell code

[prisma wave]

No it doesn't

Rust is largely imperative, it just has some patterns that are inspired from FP

Just like Java has streams and optionals

[jovial warren]

fair

I mean, I like declarative programming, just not functional programming

the lack of state blows my mind

[cinder flare]

you don't like functional?

what a clown

[steel heart]

I like imperative programming

[jovial warren]

ew

one of those primitive Java users

[steel heart]

mutability, no thread safety 😄

[jovial warren]

yeah we know you're a mad man

[steel heart]

I mean uno reverse

[ocean quartz]

BM, you're not allowed to use Rust if you don't have your tetanus shot

[jovial warren]

also, @gusty glen, thinking about online players, atm there's not even an online players list, since every player in the players list is assumed to be online

[gusty glen]

I like programming in languages that give clear error messages, no NPE trash, is not slow and have a bunch of things to alter Monads (optional, list, etc) without arrow code

[jovial warren]

and there's no such thing as offline players yet

[prisma wave]

It's always the guy that's never tried FP that's got something to say...

[jovial warren]

or at least, no way to retrieve them

[obtuse gale]

no NPE trash
Sir have you tried Java 14?

the error messages are pretty clear

[gusty glen]

Null safety?

[obtuse gale]

kotlin hides it.. it doesn't fix it

[prisma wave]

let's not kid ourselves, nicer exceptions don't address the actual issue

They're just nice to have

[obtuse gale]

they literally pinpoint you the issue lmao

[prisma wave]

no no

That's not what I mean

[ocean quartz]

It's so much better

[steel heart]

using exceptions in codeflow

[prisma wave]

They don't fix the problem of everything being nullable

[jovial warren]

eh, Kotlin does what you would expect for trying to add nullability to Java

it enforces it at compile-time and uses a null check at runtime

[prisma wave]

Maybe Monad 😩 😩

[ocean quartz]

It does't hide nor fix it, it makes it easier for you to handle them

[cinder flare]

now that's a good take

[gusty glen]

I suggested persistent collection there so u can expose it as Immutable and we can get the list from a coroutine without fearing CPE while iterating over it

[jovial warren]

couldn't I just make it be backed by ConcurrentHashMap.newKeySet() to solve that?

[gusty glen]

no not yet, I'm still on 8 (thanks spigot)

[gusty glen]

Collections.newSetFromMap(ConcurrentHashMap())? Yes you could with that if you want

[jovial warren]

or use Collections.synchronizedList

[prisma wave]

Synchronization 🤣 🙄 🥴 🤓 🤨

[gusty glen]

this is evil

[jovial warren]

ConcurrentHashSet is a Guava thing btw

[gusty glen]

fixed

[steel heart]

Collections.newSetFromMap(new MapMaker().concurreny(4).makeMap()); if u want System#identityHashCode instead of regular hash computation ik irrelevant ok bye

[jovial warren]

also, I can just use ConcurrentHashMap.newKeySet() to get a KeySetView that's basically a concurrent hash set

[prisma wave]

"java is sinple"

[gusty glen]

but it don't implements set

[jovial warren]

you what

[gusty glen]

try to cast it to Set

[steel heart]

true

[ocean quartz]

These lazy people working at Gradle 😩

[jovial warren]

it implements Collection

actually what are you chatting? KeySetView implements Set lol

also, thinking about it, maybe depending on Guava isn't all that bad of an idea

would mean I could use some cool stuff like MultiMap and ConcurrentHashSet

[steel heart]

does kotlin have a native MultiMap

or like standard

[jovial warren]

no lol

[steel heart]

not pog

[gusty glen]

do you know thats u have been fooled by guava, right?

[jovial warren]

wat

English please

[gusty glen]

let me show you this

[steel heart]

ConcurrentHashSetMultimap.create() :}

[obtuse gale]

you know what has a native multimap?

C++ 😌

[prisma wave]

You know what could define a multimap in about 3 lines?

[steel heart]

bruh yet again C++ is > java

[prisma wave]

Haskell 😌

[steel heart]

🥲

[jovial warren]

I could probably define a multimap in about 20 or so lines by using delegated inheritance

[ocean quartz]

Emily be like 🤤

[steel heart]

lol true

[prisma wave]

yikes

[old wyvern]

🥲

oh btw matt

apparently the approval is only for custom package names

[prisma wave]

yeah

[old wyvern]

so if we use gradles package name theres no approval time

right?

[gusty glen]

@jovial warren Guava's Sets.newConcurrentHashSet() is just

[jovial warren]

lol

[steel heart]

ConcurrentHashSet.newKeySet or whatever it's called is probably better

[gusty glen]

I told you

[steel heart]

since its native

[old wyvern]

Implementation details

[ocean quartz]

Oh is it just for package names?

[jovial warren]

yeah I suggested that

[old wyvern]

yea seems so

[steel heart]

yeah bbg

[ocean quartz]

How would it be done for gradle's package? Like org.gradle.slimjar?

[old wyvern]

No idea

Im not fully sure of what they are reffering to by "custom" here

[jovial warren]

well, I think it's AsyncThreadedChunkLoadingFactoryManager time

[steel heart]

lmfao

[ocean quartz]

Hmm, hopefully they'll accept it today

[old wyvern]

Did you check mail matt

[obtuse gale]

I mean most if not all Java Set implementations are just the key set of a backend delegate Map with equivalent implementation for keys, there is no reason to reinvent the wheel

[ocean quartz]

Yeah

[old wyvern]

They might have requested changes

[jovial warren]

I'm thinking that maybe I should handle chunk loading with a separate threaded chunk loader

[ocean quartz]

No email yet

[old wyvern]

welp

[gusty glen]

can I also suggest a fun Location.getNearbyEntities(blah...): Deferred<Set<Entities>>?

[jovial warren]

suspend fun but maybe

[ocean quartz]

Probably had no one there in the weekend

[old wyvern]

true

[jovial warren]

we're not using Deferred, we're using suspend functions

coroutines are not completable futures lol

[prisma wave]

Deferred isnt the same as a future

[jovial warren]

kinda similar though

[gusty glen]

but how will you get the set of entities from the main thread from a suspend function?

[old wyvern]

They dont have a then ect..

You have to still await in a coroutine scope

[steel heart]

only reason to use Sets.newConcurrentHashSet is if you're on java 1.7

[gusty glen]

I just suggested Deferred so I can wait inside the coroutine to suspend it

[obtuse gale]

not quite what I said but that is actually true though, I believe they actually suggest not to use that method if you're on Java 8+ because of the diamond operator I believe

[old wyvern]

suspend functions would do the same secretx

[jovial warren]

guess that's a good point, maybe I should just not have it be a Deferred or a suspend fun, since the main thread is not a main coroutines lol

it'll just block and return immediately

[old wyvern]

Deffered is only useful if you dont want something to be actually sequential

[jovial warren]

that project name's a bit sus

[steel heart]

ah okay

[gusty glen]

I see

[half harness]

have you never seen efe's iplogger plugin?

[steel heart]

cuz CHM#newKeySet was invented in java 8 apparently

[jovial warren]

no lol

[half harness]

oh

is there the error on the right?

[jovial warren]

also, if you're trying to not be suspicious, you're doing a great job /s

[half harness]

or is ur intellij broken again

no the right thing

theres 2 boxes

uh

[prisma wave]

yugi

does stack update work for you?

or any commands for that matter

[half harness]

uhhh

[old wyvern]

I havent had to use stack update yet bm

[old wyvern]

Wait any?

[prisma wave]

yeah

[half harness]

i think u have to use outdated java

[old wyvern]

Something wrong with stack?

[prisma wave]

they all fail with various http errors

[old wyvern]

Checking, one sec

[half harness]

ok

[prisma wave]

https://x0.at/Vgk.png

[half harness]

ok

[prisma wave]

cabal works fine

[half harness]

either works

[prisma wave]

it's a stack bug ig

[half harness]

bbig boomer

[onyx loom]

7.0

fabric

[prisma wave]

https://x0.at/YCy.png

[half harness]

kaliber no

[frail glade]

Ahh, it looks like it takes longer for the portal to accept you if you have a custom group id.

Makes sense just like Maven Central.

[half harness]

😦

[onyx loom]

good

[half harness]

hi waffle king

D: why waffle king no say hi to me

[ocean quartz]

There is like 0 reasons to mod for 1.8

[onyx loom]

nice.

[old wyvern]

rip

[half harness]

w r o ng

[ocean quartz]

Not a valid reason

[half harness]

please lets not go into this 1.8 debate

[ocean quartz]

PVP?

[jovial warren]

Long2ObjectLinkedOpenHashMapFastCopy okay wtf Paper

[half harness]

yes

[distant sun]

ok

[old wyvern]

@prisma wave Works fine for me

[ocean quartz]

Do you know we're talking about mods right? There are literally mods that revert PVP to 1.8 lol

[onyx loom]

bUt My FpS

[half harness]

... the only ones that i found sucks

[prisma wave]

weird

[steel heart]

1.8 pvp is nice

[prisma wave]

let me try on my vps

[half harness]

and this

[steel heart]

hence 1.8 is nice

[prisma wave]

might be an issue with my pc

what stack version are you on?

[half harness]

forge = 40 fps
lunar = 100 fps

[old wyvern]

2.5.1

[half harness]

yes

[prisma wave]

ah same here

[old wyvern]

weird

[steel heart]

ye

[prisma wave]

i wonder if this is a firewall issue, could be related to gradle not being able to find plugins

[old wyvern]

possibly

[half harness]

..

D:

conclure did we duel before

[prisma wave]

yea works fine on the vps

weird...

[steel heart]

ye

[half harness]

who won

[steel heart]

ye

i did i think

why efe

they're nice

[half harness]

oh

D:

D:

[half harness]

we need bridge duel rematch

[steel heart]

soon

soon

[half harness]

3 hours later?

[steel heart]

nrn

he block'd u?

[half harness]

conclure 🥺

[steel heart]

lol

nrn tho

[half harness]

ok

[half harness]

when

can u pvp in 3 hours

ish

3-4 hours

[steel heart]

no

[half harness]

ok

rip

ok

[steel heart]

I will ping u when

[half harness]

ok

🥰

what is that 🤔

uh

oh

efelib

[steel heart]

efe lol java

[half harness]

dkim19375core

java bad

[steel heart]

thought u were a kotlin karen

[half harness]

efe

java bad

why r u using java

[steel heart]

not tru

[onyx loom]

lol conclure

[steel heart]

java is fine

[onyx loom]

i made a plugin in java the other day

[steel heart]

lol

[half harness]

Ew

[steel heart]

how did it feel

[onyx loom]

some of it was pain

[boreal needle]

java is showing its age a bit but its really not as bad as everyone makes it out to be

[steel heart]

🥲

[distant sun]

Ofc

[half harness]

i dont like java so much that i converted my lib to kotlin 😎

kotlin only

[steel heart]

geez

[half harness]

betterdiscord 👀

[onyx loom]

like i was tryna use some of kotlin stdlib functions, but they didnt exist in the jdk 😔

[steel heart]

lmao

[onyx loom]

and having to handle exceptions too yikes

[ocean quartz]

Just wait till they release Kotlin++ and Kotlin#

[boreal needle]

imagine having friends 🥲

[ocean quartz]

And Kotlinskell

[obtuse gale]

you're my friend :peepoHeart:

[obtuse gale]

Koskell

[boreal needle]

lmao now everyones adding me

[steel heart]

alr ur friend pog

[obtuse gale]

same 😎

[half harness]

😔

😄

[ocean quartz]

We're all friends now

[half harness]

pog

[boreal needle]

yay :D

[hot hull]

No

[half harness]

but

[ocean quartz]

That's better

[obtuse gale]

can we finally kill ourselves in tandem then?

[half harness]

ur not on my friends list D:

[hot hull]

Yes Emily

[gusty glen]

@ocean quartz do you know if there's any speed difference between using java interfaces (Predicate, Consumer, etc) vs kotlin lambdas ((SomeObject) -> Boolean, (SomeObject) -> Unit)?

[steel heart]

secret it shouldnt be

[ocean quartz]

Nah, as far as I know they act the same way in the background

[half harness]

ooo nice

what

[steel heart]

crucially negligible if there even is a difference secret

[boreal needle]

hypixel is full of simps

[obtuse gale]

I mean after all kt compiles to jvm, it doesn't do magic

[ocean quartz]

Yeah

[boreal needle]

i have a friend thats quite heavily involved in hypixel guild stuff

half of his server is simpy

[ocean quartz]

Soon™️

[half harness]

but i thought ur male

[boreal needle]

try being trans

simp²

[steel heart]

lol

[half harness]

lol

[boreal needle]

ngl i think its the pfp

[half harness]

you ahve a heart in your username

[boreal needle]

and the status

still

[steel heart]

joe mama

[half harness]

what is ur pfp

[boreal needle]

gradient

[half harness]

also conclure u keep changing ur pfp to diff dogs

[boreal needle]

boring

[steel heart]

yeh dkim

[half harness]

hi gaby

[steel heart]

innovative 😄

[half harness]

what is RO

[onyx loom]

🙄

[half harness]

aw gaby is silent now

😦

[distant sun]

Hey

[obtuse gale]

Romania...

It even shows the flag on mobile lol

[distant sun]

🇷🇴

[obtuse gale]

mobile

[half harness]

gaby

[ocean quartz]

@gusty glen It turns into a Function after compile

[distant sun]

🙂

[old wyvern]

free(GabyTm|R0)

R0 means Romanian I think?

[gusty glen]

both lambdas and interface?

[distant sun]

Function0 @ocean quartz?

How lol

[distant sun]

RO not R0 xd

[old wyvern]

Holy shit, ive been going about handling network timeouts wrong the whole time

smack auto reconnects

[distant sun]

I doubt

[old wyvern]

Shit was crashing for so long

Why tf is none of this documented

When they wrote "TODO" I thought they didnt implement stream management

[obtuse gale]

static
final
why lol

[ocean quartz]

Yeah, it all turns into a normal functional interface, so there is no difference, the only difference is that Kotlin will add the Intrinsics

[old wyvern]

https://github.com/igniterealtime/Smack/blob/master/documentation/extensions/streammanagement.md

Literally everything in there says "TODO"

[ocean quartz]

Decompiled

[ocean quartz]

Beats me, jvm bytecode is weird

[distant sun]

Wondering what I could do to learn android dev 🤔

or game dev

[onyx loom]

recreate cod mobile

pubg mobile

[distant sun]

Not a fan

[ocean quartz]

Function0 seems to be Unit, Function1 seems to be with type

[old wyvern]

Do my assignments for me 😄 thanks

[distant sun]

:))

[forest pecan]

best function header:
private static final

[old wyvern]

Imagine having access modifiers

[jovial warren]

just thinking about chunk loading, would it be worth doing all the loading on a thread pool executor to keep Netty's handlers and the main thread clean?

[old wyvern]

Couldnt be haskell

[ocean quartz]

Haskell be like, public static everything

[old wyvern]

Not really

[jovial warren]

also gotta fix KryptonWorldManager breaking SRP

[old wyvern]

exports / imports

[forest pecan]

🥲

[oblique heath]

would it really be worth it to have chunk loading on a thread pool rather than just a single thread

[forest pecan]

static -> functional programming

/s

[ocean quartz]

Oh, similar to js?

[oblique heath]

you'll probably be limited by IO either way

[old wyvern]

module ModuleName (exportedFunction0, exportedFunction1) where

[jovial warren]

good point

[old wyvern]

yea kinda

[jovial warren]

also, it's not just about speed, I want to avoid the more costly things taking place on the main thread as well

[oblique heath]

that's true, so you should still have an extra thread for chunk loading

[jovial warren]

I was thinking of using a cached thread pool

[ocean quartz]

JS is odd like, const something = "Hello" <- private
export const something = "Hello" <- public

[old wyvern]

ah

actually thats not for all precompilers matt

[static zealot]

its supposed to be the flag but on PC discord breaks it

on phone tho you can see the flag instead

[jovial warren]

also, vanilla likes to create a new chunk cache per world, but I'm thinking that maybe I could just share a single one between all worlds

meaning all worlds can use the same executor

[old wyvern]

babel doesnt have it I think, I dont remember which one exactly

[ocean quartz]

Idk much about it still xD

[old wyvern]

the one I used for quick-clash didnt suppourt dircet export statements

It had a exports object to which we had to add the items to be exported

[oblique heath]

does having multiple vs 1 chunk cache make a difference either way?

[old wyvern]

@ocean quartz
this is what I mean matt
https://github.com/Vshnv/quick-clash/blob/master/clash.js#L170

[jovial warren]

probably not

[ocean quartz]

Ooh okay interesting
Maybe what I said, only applies to jsx/tsx?

[prisma wave]

oh yugi, i think i fixed it. it was my ISP's DNS by the look of it - changing to cloudflare dns fixed the issue

[old wyvern]

oh, probably yea, I havent messed with react much

[old wyvern]

ahh

[jovial warren]

https://paste.helpch.at/ojavufifev.sql not sure if this is good or bad lol

the code inside of the submit is just basically copied from the old code

[old wyvern]

You know you're fucked when the prof declares a group activity and you know barely like 1 person from the class

This might be a few marks down the drain for me

[prisma wave]

🥲

[old wyvern]

I dont even remember which group I was assigned to

I asked the prof who just asked me to ask the other students

💀

[hot hull]

Bruh I don't get how you don't know your classmates

[distant sun]

Fr, I know all my classmates

[hot hull]

Same

we drink together

We're all alcoholics

[old wyvern]

Because theres no strict "classmates"

[distant sun]

How big is your group @old wyvern ? Or you got one for each class

[old wyvern]

It just depends on your class

[distant sun]

Makes sense

[old wyvern]

Im not gonna know all 5k-6k people at my uni obviously

[distant sun]

🤣

[old wyvern]

My choice of slot was just really poor

[old wyvern]

The group for the activity? Like 6-10 people per group apparently

[hot hull]

You'd atleast know the people you sit next to

[old wyvern]

I dont sit next to anyone during online classes frosty

🥲

[hot hull]

I will slap you

[old wyvern]

You might as well

[lunar cypress]

we'll have to do a big software project next semester too

I'm curious how that'll go

[old wyvern]

Yea make sure to always choose a class with people you know 💀

[lunar cypress]

You register as a team in this case

[old wyvern]

Ah this was not a separate thing in my case, it was part of a course, so the prof decided the team

[lunar cypress]

Yeah I understand

we barely have any interactive elements so far

[old wyvern]

Do you have a project per semester?

[lunar cypress]

no

[old wyvern]

Oh so its only for the next one?

[lunar cypress]

the one in third is special, it's a whole module

[old wyvern]

Ah

[lunar cypress]

some company exploits us to make their product for free

[old wyvern]

lol

[distant sun]

Sounds fair

[lunar cypress]

right?

[old wyvern]

🥲

[distant sun]

Modern slavery

[lunar cypress]

And we'll have to document the process in like 100 pages of UML diagrams and shit

[old wyvern]

Lol

This gives me a stroke

[lunar cypress]

no different arrow types?

[old wyvern]

Theres no point

The whole thing is shit

😂

[weary epoch]

@prisma wave tutorial when™️?

[old wyvern]

One of my team mates decided to ditch the old project and just take one of his public projects at the last moment

[prisma wave]

soon

maybe

[old wyvern]

He asked me to make a uml diagram of it at like midnight before the exhibition

And when I opened the source its just shit loads of public variables and shit everywhere

[weary epoch]

I’ll give you $5 if you make a series

I’m very sick rn my stomach area is growling nonstop for the last hours

Anyways I’m gonna go lie down bye

[old wyvern]

I dont think the professor really paid attention to the diagram tho

Hopefully wont grade it too bad

[lunar cypress]

I bet your program isn't as bad as the one I currently need to "maintain" as an exercise in software engineering

[old wyvern]

😬

[lunar cypress]

I am not kidding, this is one of the worst pieces of software I've had to touch

[old wyvern]

God 🥲

[lunar cypress]

just everything about it is so incredibly bad

I know why I don't want to be a professional corporate java developer

[old wyvern]

xD

[lunar cypress]

just to give you an example of one method

https://haste.devcord.xyz/bonisaxizi.cs

I need to test this shit

[old wyvern]

Oh lord

[steel heart]

Lmaoooo

[old wyvern]

Thats like 3 pages worth

[lunar cypress]

I have a few favourites

There's one method where the author randomly calls a different method that has nothing to do with the task

And he calls it with args that always throw an exception

there are a good chunk of methods that don't use their parameters

and 5 different methods to do the same things

[old wyvern]

xD

[lunar cypress]

but they're all different somehow

and this is all just one class

[old wyvern]

lmao

[lunar cypress]

You can't even reach >30% code coverage in tests because literally nothing is testable

[half harness]

😦

[old wyvern]

💀 💀

public fields and getters/setters

[onyx loom]

setNAME

[old wyvern]

Yea

😂

[onyx loom]

oh god what is this spacing too

[lunar cypress]

lmao

this spacing is used in my project too

[old wyvern]

xD

[onyx loom]

sir u need some explaining to do then

[old wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/devil-gif-8941958

[onyx loom]

get some help

[old wyvern]

Wasnt written by him

lol

[onyx loom]

o

[lunar cypress]

The people in charge of this exercise simply enjoy mentally abusing the students

[onyx loom]

lmao

[old wyvern]

🥲

[jovial warren]

is it just me or is java.nio.file.Path >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.io.File

I just converted Krypton over to using Path over File and it's great

and the new Kotlin extensions coming soon in 1.5 will make working with Paths even easier and better

[old wyvern]

Guess whats even better?

[steel heart]

I mean java even encourages Path over File

[jovial warren]

IO Monad don't tell me

[onyx loom]

u guessed it!

haskell!

[ocean quartz]

Maybe!

[jovial warren]

surprise.exe not found

[old wyvern]

Ofc not silly, Haskell itself

[old wyvern]

Gj

[jovial warren]

in Kotlin 1.5, you'll be able to replace resolve with /

e.g. val subPath = Path.of("myPath") / "subPath"

[old wyvern]

e u

Imagine not having custom ops

[lunar cypress]

I don't like this personally

[jovial warren]

I mean, what else could they do?

[lunar cypress]

leave it

[jovial warren]

or maybe + would've been better, since you're adding to the existing path, not dividing it up

[prisma wave]

(/) p a = Path $ path p ++ a
wow, groundbreaking changes from the kotlin team

[jovial warren]

lol

[prisma wave]

(/) = resolve even easier 🙂

[jovial warren]

you don't like the use of operators outside of mathematical stuff do you

[prisma wave]

make new operators instead

oh wait...

[jovial warren]

I'm still waiting on https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/KT-1440 lol

[lunar cypress]

I don't like the division operator having nothing to do with the operation

Also it doesn't look good aesthetically

imo

[jovial warren]

yeah I see what you mean actually

[prisma wave]

>>= looks really good aesthetically 🤤

[jovial warren]

I'm really hoping that KT-1440 gets implemented some time soon

though I doubt it will get implemented

[lunar cypress]

9 years ago 🥲

[prisma wave]

andrey hates the people

[prisma wave]

simon on the other hand

[onyx loom]

yup johnny

[jovial warren]

thank Andrey Breslav for that

bastard

[prisma wave]

🤣 🤣 🤣

sucks to be a kotlin fan

[jovial warren]

stfu BM

don't even try and pretend you don't like Kotlin

[onyx loom]

No need to shout.

[prisma wave]

lmaooooooooooo

[jovial warren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ0wKv5CPtA

[lunar cypress]

I'm gonna report your behaviour to the authorities bm

[prisma wave]

go on

do it

they are POWERLESS

[obtuse gale]

#development message

[onyx loom]

lmao

[jovial warren]

lol what

[ocean quartz]

That's actually kinda yucky
I remember they posting that on twitter and a lot of people weren't fan of it

[lunar cypress]

9 days ago

lol

[onyx loom]

how the times change 😎

[prisma wave]

they are so OUT OF TOUCH with what the PEOPLE want!!!! 🤣 🤣 🤣

[obtuse gale]

Ikr

[jovial warren]

[lunar cypress]

🤨

[obtuse gale]

Lol what

[jovial warren]

"7=5+3 esta escribiendo..." lol

[ember cove]

sad

[jovial warren]

sure it does mate

[prisma wave]

HEY MATE

[obtuse gale]

We all are, yes

[jovial warren]

sure 5 + 3 = 7

sure

[onyx loom]

yes

[prisma wave]

?

it does...?

[jovial warren]

what kinda planet you living on?

[onyx loom]

Earth

[gusty glen]

reAdaBlE CoDeJAVA return (pos != this.limit && this.bytes[pos++] == TYPE_INT) ? ((this.bytes[pos++] & 0xFF)) | ((this.bytes[pos++] & 0xFF) << 8) | ((this.bytes[pos++] & 0xFF) << 16) | ((this.bytes[pos] & 0xFF) << 24) : DEFAULT_INT_VALUE;

[ember cove]

Tell Stephan I said hi

[onyx loom]

what kinda planet you living on?

[half harness]

5 + 3 = 15

[obtuse gale]

Earth 2: Reloaded

[jovial warren]

what's readability?

[prisma wave]

https://x0.at/c0m.png lmfao kotlin bad

3 separate versions and none work

shit language

[onyx loom]

no docker bad

[jovial warren]

use 1.4.32 noob

[prisma wave]

i bet ghc would work out of the box

[prisma wave]

i was using 1.5.0

[old wyvern]

Kotlin bad, haskell good, rust good, f# good, go good

[prisma wave]

that didnt work either

[jovial warren]

1.5.0 isn't released yet

[prisma wave]

the plugin is

[jovial warren]

you what

[lunar cypress]

kotlinc doesn't run for me either for some reason

[jovial warren]

I swear the plugin is still RC

[prisma wave]

no it's not

[onyx loom]

wait what

[obtuse gale]

Johnny I need your brain

[jovial warren]

yes it is BM

https://plugins.gradle.org/plugin/org.jetbrains.kotlin.jvm

oh wait what

[prisma wave]

https://plugins.gradle.org/plugin/org.jetbrains.kotlin.jvm/1.5.0

[half harness]

Kotlin good, haskell... good with some things i dont like about it, rust bad, f# bad, go bad

[jovial warren]

okay I'm upgrading rn lol

[old wyvern]

You dont get a vote!

[prisma wave]

good with some things i dont like about it
what things

[prisma wave]

shitlin doesnt even work

[half harness]

it needs mutability, for loops, returns

[onyx loom]

do i see OUTDATED software

[old wyvern]

You see google images

[onyx loom]

o

[oblique heath]

why do you need loops

[prisma wave]

no it doesnt

[old wyvern]

I dont have any blue around here

I live in red

[half harness]

recursion messes up my brain

[prisma wave]

recursion ez

[oblique heath]

that's unfortunate

[half harness]

indeed

[prisma wave]

and you dont even need recursion a lot of the time, stdlib functions do it for you

[oak raft]

do you know what recursion is? 🤓

[prisma wave]

yeah MATE

[lunar cypress]

Ah you like recursion? Name Ackermann(42, 720)

[prisma wave]

ok fr

[half harness]

remence dont get tricked into learning haskell

[prisma wave]

why is shit kotlin plguin not working

[half harness]

its good and bad at the same time

[prisma wave]

what now

[prisma wave]

remence do it

[lunar cypress]

do you know the ackermann function

[prisma wave]

oh boy

[lunar cypress]

it's a fun one

[prisma wave]

i just googled that

[old wyvern]

It was there for a clash

#dev-general message

lol

[lunar cypress]

you're only gonna get what's left of it after I've finished this software engineering thing

[obtuse gale]

🥲

Pls I have railgun

[prisma wave]

docker bad

pls

help

WHY

it works on my vps

[onyx loom]

dont use docker

[prisma wave]

why does it not work on my pc

NO

[obtuse gale]

oh duh that's what docker is for

just use docker

for the docker

ez

[prisma wave]

QIDJQIDJD

[obtuse gale]

B.A.A.S - Too many caps!
No need to shout.
Barry's Anti Abuse System | v1.4.4

[onyx loom]

No need to shout.

[prisma wave]

IT DOEsnot BUILD

SAME ERRO

on ANCIENT kotlin version

WHY

[lunar cypress]

descending into madness

[prisma wave]

I AM

3 DAYS

[onyx loom]

i think someones having a mental breakdown

[prisma wave]

WHY

[obtuse gale]

No need to shout.

[prisma wave]

REINSTALL

[onyx loom]

ur gonna get muted 🤣

[prisma wave]

GOOD

MUTE ME

[lunar cypress]

bm your support in training role is gonna magically disappear

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DONT CARE

[onyx loom]

support in training for 1 day

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AAAAAAA

CLONE ON VPS

[onyx loom]

have u saw a therapist recently

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WORKS FINE

NO

I NEED a dockerist

[obtuse gale]

@lemmo

[oblique heath]

you should dockerize your docker container

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lemmo IGNORESME

[oblique heath]

that'll guarantee it works 👌

[obtuse gale]

yeah that's what I was saying

#dev-general message

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[oblique heath]

then I agree with Fefo

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OOOOO