#dev-general | HelpChat | Page 456

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 1:45 AM

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my return home?

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though that's tomorrow I guess

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 1:56 AM

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"Build successful"

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 1:58 AM

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lol

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 1:59 AM

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it just said fuck your slimjar, im building anyways lol

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:01 AM

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Beautiful

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:02 AM

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no u

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:02 AM

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Wow rude

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:02 AM

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what's the task name

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so I can just like

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tasks {
  slimJar {
    relocate(...)
  }
}

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:03 AM

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Yeah that's it

sweet cipher Apr 30, 2021, 2:03 AM

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Can slimjar add PDM as a dependency?

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:03 AM

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Technically yes

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:05 AM

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lmao

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:06 AM

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@old wyvern Ah great shadow 7.0 breaks it 🥲
at least if I add 7.0 as dependency

sweet cipher Apr 30, 2021, 2:07 AM

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I’ll be unstoppable

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 2:09 AM

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then you can use PDM to add Slimjar as a dependency!

sweet cipher Apr 30, 2021, 2:12 AM

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Oh yeah!

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Using Skript!

wind bolt Apr 30, 2021, 2:13 AM

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Sure

sweet cipher Apr 30, 2021, 2:17 AM

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Me too

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 2:31 AM

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man you know what gets me

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:31 AM

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yes

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 2:31 AM

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is that typing in into windows search does not somehow turn up intellij, it turns up Internet Options

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like wtf

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:32 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/Jm8idFY.png hmm

Imgur

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:33 AM

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wtf 🥲

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haven't touched that shit in ages lol

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:37 AM

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half harness https://i.imgur.com/Jm8idFY.png hmm

Did you censor "Intel graphics.."? lol

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:37 AM

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btw matt

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:38 AM

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ocean quartz Did you censor "Intel graphics.."? lol

um

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stuff

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#827055636109328384 message

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thonking

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 2:38 AM

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that might be Extreme Tuning Utility too

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:38 AM

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lol

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:38 AM

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ocean quartz Did you censor "Intel graphics.."? lol

lol

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(:

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:38 AM

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wha

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:38 AM

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nothing

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:38 AM

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what was that

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:38 AM

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none of your business

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:38 AM

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ok

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 2:39 AM

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nyay

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:39 AM

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lmao

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:39 AM

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Nyay lmao

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 2:39 AM

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oh wtf the spelling of it includes itself

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(in Spanish: eñe)

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:40 AM

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well yeah

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 2:40 AM

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well a lot of english letters don't include themselves

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:41 AM

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I don't think there's a single letter in the spanish alphabet that doesn't include itself

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it's a very explicit language

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:41 AM

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M, english pronounciation ɛm

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 2:41 AM

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C -> see

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:42 AM

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obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:42 AM

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cees lol

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 2:42 AM

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well

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okay maybe

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:42 AM

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well in that case

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 2:42 AM

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double u

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W

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okay that's the only one lmao

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:43 AM

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Always thought it was weird that it's double u but looks like double v

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:43 AM

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Well in spanish it is actually named "double v"

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:43 AM

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Portuguese we say double u as well

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 2:43 AM

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it was originally double u but people got lazy and started writing it sharply

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i fucking hate dropbox

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why does it do stuff to my files

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damnit I gotta setup owncloud to sync my shit

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 3:48 AM

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oh damn rust has tuples

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very cool

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rust is a lot like C++ too I'm seeing

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 3:49 AM

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👀

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 3:50 AM

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it's got vectors, it's got C-like types like i32, f64

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i also have a sneaking suspicion that strings are pointers to arrays

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cause IJ tells me it's an &str

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and it uses ::

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awe shit it doesn't use camel case

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that's very sad

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Oh boy, rust

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Let me find my only rust code ever that took hours and was a nightmare

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:04 AM

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There's a lot of cool stuff and a lot of not cool stuff

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Good thing I'm making my own lang phew

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:04 AM

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Should I contribute to your language? I'll make it more like Kotlin

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 4:04 AM

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just fork rust 4head and make the not cool stuff cool stuff

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:04 AM

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I mean I certainly like a lot of Kotlin

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but like, why does println! have an exclamation point?

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why do you have to do string subtitution

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why do for loops not have parens

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why did the mutable thing have to be mut

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const is a much better way

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val and var are even better

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why are some methods overloaded and others aren't?

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 4:06 AM

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lol in c++ you have the three, const, mutable and, well, nothing

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:06 AM

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why do they use underscores

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why do they use :: i really hate that

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fn main() {
    let owned_string: String = "hello ".to_owned();
    let borrowed_string: &str = "world";
    
    let together = owned_string.clone() + borrowed_string;
    println!("{}", together);
}```

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wtf is that

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why can't you do expressions inside of the {} like in kotlin

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ughhhh

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 4:09 AM

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cinder flare why can't you do expressions inside of the `{}` like in kotlin

I mean that kinda looks like a printf in disguise

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:10 AM

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fn main() {
    use std::char;

    let string = vec![
        vec![false, true, false, false, true, false, false, false], // H
        vec![false, true, true, false, false, true, false, true], // E
        vec![false, true, true, false, true, true, false, false], // L
        vec![false, true, true, false, true, true, false, false], // L
        vec![false, true, true, false, true, true, true, true], // O
        vec![false, false, true, false, false, false, false, false], // ' '
        vec![false, true, false, true, false, true, true, true], // W
        vec![false, true, true, false, true, true, true, true], // O
        vec![false, true, true, true, false, false, true, false], // R
        vec![false, true, true, false, true, true, false, false], // L
        vec![false, true, true, false, false, true, false, false], // D
    ];

    let mut final_vec: Vec<char> = vec![];
    for byte in &string {
        let mut byte_vec = vec![];
        for b in byte {
            if *b { byte_vec.push("1") } else { byte_vec.push("0") }
        }
        let byte_string = byte_vec.join("");
        let test = isize::from_str_radix(&byte_string, 2).unwrap();
        let char = char::from_u32(test as u32).unwrap();
        final_vec.push(char);
    }

    let final_string = String::from_iter(final_vec);

    println!("{}", final_string);

}

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Beautiful

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 4:11 AM

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Oh shit rust has mobile highlighting

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:14 AM

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what in the fuck

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i mean you purposefully made that way more complicated that it needed to be lmao

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:16 AM

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That was the point of it xD

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:16 AM

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ah okay I see

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I thought you were dissing on Rust lol

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:17 AM

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Basically someone (probably Emily) was talking about doing hello world with booleans, so I did it in Kotlin in like 1 minute, then someone told to try something else, so I did rust and I regretted it

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:17 AM

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wtf why do tuples have a max limit of 12

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dude everyone praises Rust but like

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so many weird decisions

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makes me want to go to python ngl

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 4:18 AM

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cinder flare wtf why do tuples have a max limit of 12

Lmao what

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:18 AM

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yup

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let's put tuples in Kotlin

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then I don't need Rust

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actually maybe I should just go back to C++

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:19 AM

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Rust is really good for speed

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Specially web

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:19 AM

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yeah I plan on writing my Aello compiler in it

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 4:19 AM

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Tuples in C++ are actually very smartly designed, recursive inheritance lmao

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:19 AM

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I just wish like a small few things were different

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:19 AM

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Oh boy good luck poor you

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:19 AM

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well I'd rather write it in Rust than C/C++

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:19 AM

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Do it in GO and i'll help

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I need an excuse to use GO

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:19 AM

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oooh is Go good?

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:19 AM

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Yeah

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Go is also very speedy

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:20 AM

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I've heard Rust is really good for systems stuff and is a replacement for C/C++

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I've heard virtually nothing about Go besides that Discord stopped using it lol

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are you kidding me the . syntax is for tuples only

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i dislike rust

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 4:21 AM

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Lmao

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:22 AM

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can someone make a Rust without the shitty syntax that compiles to rust then compiles to speedy code

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Oxygen, maybe?

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does rust even have objects

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cause i stg if it has getters and setters like java it's going in the trash

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dude how are linters made

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that seems so hard

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but like Java and Rust have very good linters

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:30 AM

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I think rust can oop yeah

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Linter?

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:32 AM

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yeah like the thing that tells you your code is messed up

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syntax highlighting and all taht

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suggestions for autocompletion

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:32 AM

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Ah once you have a lexer it's pretty easy to make
I was actually working on a IJ plugin to highlight my msgs lib syntax but got bored

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:33 AM

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a... lexer?

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oh boy I've got a long way to go don't I

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:35 AM

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It's very complicated in the beginning yeah
You'll need to search about lexers, grammar, parsing, etc
Lexing is basically reading the code and creating tokens that represent them, then you'll have a grammar tree to find what they mean and if syntax is correct and things like that, then you parse it to get the values you need

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:35 AM

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bro where do I learn this stuff

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cause this is super cool to me

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and I don't want to wait 2 semesters to take my uni's Foundation of Computation Theory class

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:37 AM

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I searched a lot on google and yw, there aren't many good guides and stuff out there
Some people use a software to create the lexing, like antlr (minimessgae uses it i think) I think elara used to use it as well

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:37 AM

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have you made your own lang?

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:38 AM

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Not exactly but my messages lib is pretty much a new lang just uses the same syntax as markdown

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:38 AM

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oh dang I see

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:39 AM

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if you do Go i can try helping
Not rust though, I'd like to keep my sanity xD

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:40 AM

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dude I thought Rust was gonna be way cool

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people hype it similarly to Kotlin

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but I'd honestly rather use C++ at this point

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it doesn't do enough to justify as far as I can tell

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 4:40 AM

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cinder flare but I'd honestly rather use C++ at this point

Oh would you?

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:40 AM

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I think people coming from C++ really like Rust, but people coming from like Java or Kotlin dread it

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:41 AM

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yeah it's probably really nice for C++ bois

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but there are so many opportunities where it could fix shit and I'd really like it

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like it's just a few key pieces off

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:41 AM

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My issue with it was the importing and stuff like that from the std lib
I felt like no matter what i tried jt never made sense

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:41 AM

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yeah man Java packages are really nice

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I'll make sure Aello uses Gradle haha

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:42 AM

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Is it going to be a JVM language or Native?

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:42 AM

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i dunno

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I think Native'd be cool

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but JVM would allow it to actually be used maybe

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:43 AM

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Just interop that would be scary

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 4:43 AM

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If you make it compile to JVM you have the advantage you can write shitty bytecode the jvm optimizes later on :^)

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:43 AM

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well maybe no interop, just it compiles to JVM?

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 4:43 AM

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If you make it native you have to do that yourself

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:43 AM

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hmm yeah but learning to write a compiler would be super fucking cool I feel

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:44 AM

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Convert your code to Kotlin and use Kotlin's compiler 🥲

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But yeah creating a compiler sounds nice, and bytecode is actually fairly easy

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:44 AM

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well let's hope

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also can you even write a compiler in Go?

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like has it ever been done?

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:45 AM

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Yeah pretty sure you can write a compiler in language

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 4:46 AM

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Friendly reminder that sql is turing complete

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:46 AM

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in any language?

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wtf

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wait what's Rust's compiler written in

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C++?

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 4:46 AM

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Likely a mix of asm, c and cpp

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:46 AM

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Yeah, you can even write a Java compiler written in Java

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:46 AM

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haha

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but who compiles that Java hmMM?

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 4:46 AM

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Ur mum

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:46 AM

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who wrote the first compiler

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oh wait everyone writes C compilers from scratch right

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then you just build off of that

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 4:47 AM

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but how do you make the assembler

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:47 AM

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oh shit

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punch cards baby

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oh wait those are too high level

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soldering bits

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 4:48 AM

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Do we need to bring turing back from the grave?

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Smh

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:49 AM

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https://www.github.com/JetBrains/kotlin/tree/master/compiler

GitHub

JetBrains/kotlin

The Kotlin Programming Language. Contribute to JetBrains/kotlin development by creating an account on GitHub.

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It's written in Kotlin lol

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:50 AM

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how does that even work

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also it is super cool that that is on github

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:53 AM

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https://stackoverflow.com/a/51802863

Stack Overflow

How is the Kotlin language written in Kotlin?

I was looking at the Kotlin Github page and I noticed that the Kotlin language itself is mostly written in Kotlin:
I am just wondering, how is it possible for a language to be mostly written in it'...

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Actually pretty cool that it's written in itself

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:53 AM

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oh damn it really is

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 4:55 AM

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Yeah it kinda snowballs from a tiny speck 👀

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:57 AM

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You can even start writing it in Kotlin then write it in itself after

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:58 AM

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well I'm thinking not JVM based

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after further consideration

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so maybe C then Aello

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 4:58 AM

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Do you have any idea of syntax already?

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 4:58 AM

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well im looking at rust and kotlin and picking stuff I like and don't like in my head lol

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I'm gonna need to write a formal language specification aren't I lol

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 5:00 AM

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Yup
I was gonna write a language too but got bored
My syntax was going to be like
let variable: Type and let mut variable: Type

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 5:00 AM

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ew the Rust way

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I am a big big fan of var and val

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and of course type inference

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though I am quite a fan of Rust's list of primitives

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they make more sense than float -> double and byte -> short -> int -> long

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 5:02 AM

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int8_t 👀

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 5:02 AM

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I dunno what that is

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but like int32 and uint32 make sense

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 5:02 AM

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uint64_t 👀

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 5:03 AM

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what's the _t part

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 5:03 AM

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type

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 5:03 AM

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seems redundant

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 5:03 AM

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Dude i hated that on Rust, the whole u32, i64 stuff is so annoying

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 5:03 AM

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i mean that's how C++ and stuff do it

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though I do like words

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hmmmm

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things to consider

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 5:03 AM

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cinder flare seems redundant

using int32 = int32_t; 🙂

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 5:04 AM

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why is it even _t though

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that serves no purpose

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 5:05 AM

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ocean quartz Dude i hated that on Rust, the whole u32, i64 stuff is so annoying

for us people who already know Java/C well, it's easy for us to know how many bits a type takes up

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 5:05 AM

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Aello Enhancement Proposal #1
No specific numerical types, just number 😌

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 5:05 AM

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but for new people I feel like i32 makes a lot more sense than arbitrarily knowing that an integer is 32 bits

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well also does anyone have any reason I should keep short in

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 5:06 AM

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Nah

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 5:06 AM

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cause honestly we just need byte, int, and long

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 5:06 AM

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Nah i think int and stuff is pretty intuitive

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 5:06 AM

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Dude Matt talk to my classmates in Intro to Java

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 5:06 AM

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But then again i learned types even before learning C

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 5:06 AM

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they missed like 10 questions on the final because of that

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 5:06 AM

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Loll

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 5:08 AM

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i should really read some language specs shouldn't I

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 5:08 AM

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Myes

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 5:09 AM

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and probably expose myself to like every language I can so I can steal the best parts of their syntax lol

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alright time to open a Go tutorial lmao

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hey wait I'm writing the Aello compiler in Aello aren't I

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 5:11 AM

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But you gotta compile it in something lower level at first

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 5:11 AM

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Looks at lisps and gets scared of parenthesis so makes language like python

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 5:11 AM

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You have to make it run

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 5:11 AM

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yeah C

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I've used a bit of Lisp before lol

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I did the whole MIT 50 Scheme thing

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 5:46 AM

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cinder flare but like, why does `println!` have an exclamation point?

Macro

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 5:47 AM

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cinder flare does rust even have objects

I don't think it's OO

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 6:18 AM

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okay well I still don't like it

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bm what are your thoughts on Go

steel heart Apr 30, 2021, 6:44 AM

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I heard krypton is good

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 6:54 AM

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cinder flare bm what are your thoughts on Go

Good

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Would be better with generics

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 6:55 AM

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it can't do generics?

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dang I thought that was just an accepted part of every lang

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it's weird how some stuff is missing

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 6:55 AM

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i think the reasoning was that it was supposed to be a very simple language

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generics are complicated

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 6:55 AM

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well yeah you can make the skill floor easy

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 6:55 AM

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But on the bright side, they're getting added soon

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 6:55 AM

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but at least give a little high skill ceiling!

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I don't know that much complicated stuff about Java but I still can use a ton of stuff and make things work!

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but there's like a million more things I don't know how to use and stuff

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hmmm

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at least they're getting added soon that's good

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 6:56 AM

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yea

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I mean generics as a concept are pretty complicated, unless you strip them down to the absolute basics

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 6:57 AM

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I don't really see what's so complicated about them honestly

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 6:57 AM

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And go's type system is also kinda weird so

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 6:57 AM

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you just know that this class instance is a Stringy boi

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 6:57 AM

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Contravariance and covariance make me want to die

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So confusing

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 6:57 AM

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i am scared of what those mean

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 6:58 AM

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super and extends in java

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in/out in kotlin

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 6:58 AM

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oh I understand super and extends I think

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unless there's more to the story lol

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 6:59 AM

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idk

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it's scary

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:09 AM

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dude every single language has its own word for declaring a function

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java just has privacy, return type, name, brackets

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go has func

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kotlin has fun

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rust has fn

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python has def

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js has function

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hey wait go uses clang?

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does it transpile to C code first then?

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oh go has the same type system as rust lmao

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just with a few more letters

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 7:38 AM

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So satisfying being able to do this

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:40 AM

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what, becoming bri ish?

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 7:40 AM

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ocean quartz <@!235475470806679554> Ah great shadow 7.0 breaks it 🥲 *at least if I add 7.0 a...

🥲

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Gradle plugins are forward compatible right?

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 7:43 AM

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cinder flare oh go has the same type system as rust lmao

How do you mean?

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 7:43 AM

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cinder flare hey wait go uses clang?

It's LLVM afaik

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:43 AM

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like it also has int8, int16, int32, int64, float32, float64

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 7:44 AM

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oh yeah

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:44 AM

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should Aello use LLVM?

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maybe it could be good

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 7:46 AM

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If possible yes, if you can compile it to llvm bytecode, it can transform it into a wider range of platforms

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:46 AM

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okay very cool

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 7:53 AM

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is LLVM a good idea?

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I mean, it has VM in the name

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 7:54 AM

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Its not a VM

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:54 AM

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gcc vs clang is like maven vs gradle

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 7:54 AM

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ah right

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 7:54 AM

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what's aello

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:54 AM

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my lang

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 7:54 AM

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like jello but with an a

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for some reason

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:54 AM

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nio

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no

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 7:54 AM

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like cello but with an a

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for some reason

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:54 AM

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no

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 7:54 AM

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cinder flare nio

java.nio

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Like trello but with an a

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:54 AM

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yes

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buuuu

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 7:55 AM

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oh btw, I was thinking yesterday about the proxy I want to make, Aurora, and I thought: I’ve decided that I’m not going to write it in Kotlin

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:55 AM

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huh

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 7:55 AM

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I might try out a mix of Rust and C

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 7:55 AM

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bardy

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:55 AM

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oooh

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 7:55 AM

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consider a different name

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 7:55 AM

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why?

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 7:55 AM

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one of the paper mods is called aurora

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 7:55 AM

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Bardy, be a man, use haskell

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 7:55 AM

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yeah so what

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 7:55 AM

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not nice to use people's names

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even if that wasn't your intention

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 7:55 AM

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it’s just a name

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 7:56 AM

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Call it Borealis

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:56 AM

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that's why my lang is called Aello lol, nobody else has used that afaik

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 7:56 AM

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cinder flare that's why my lang is called Aello lol, nobody else has used that afaik

Ae you sure my name aint Aello? Should I file a complaint???

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 7:56 AM

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it’s like saying if someone else in the world is called Callum then that’s an insult to me because I have the same name lol

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:56 AM

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😦

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 7:56 AM

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not at all

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aurora is known in the minecraft community

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:56 AM

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ive never heard of it

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 AM

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them

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 AM

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its a fabric mod?

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 AM

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jovial warren it’s like saying if someone else in the world is called Callum then that’s an in...

Its an insult to them 🙂

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 AM

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it's a person

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 AM

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jk

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xD

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 AM

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oh a paper moderator

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 AM

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if she ever asks me then I’ll make it clear it wasn’t named after her

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 AM

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lmao

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 AM

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that's not the point

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 AM

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or say it was

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 AM

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it’s just a name pig

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 AM

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in honor of her beauty

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 AM

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the point is to do the community a favour by avoiding ambiguity

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 AM

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even though you've never seen her

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 AM

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fine

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 AM

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like borealis is fine

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 AM

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gimme a new name and I will

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:58 AM

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but to be fair Aurora is a popular real life name

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 7:58 AM

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sure it's the name of the teleporting aperture ship

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 7:58 AM

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might not be bad pig

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 7:58 AM

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but that's a completely different community, whereas aurora is part of this community

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 7:58 AM

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Name it Yugi

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ez

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:58 AM

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it is similar to Callum honestly

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yeah you can name it Star if you want

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 7:58 AM

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I plan for the proxy to run both standalone on the client and server’s end, and as a plugin

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and I want to make bindings for a lot of languages

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:58 AM

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how would it run on the client end

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 7:58 AM

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Try : Neos

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 7:59 AM

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same way geyser does star

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 7:59 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/neos-gx-neos-yu-gi-oh-anime-monster-gif-16168418

Tenor

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 7:59 AM

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i don't know how geyser does

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 7:59 AM

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oh also, I want it to be able to talk to clients, servers, and other instances of itself as well, so you can chain them together if you want

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proxy to proxy communication likely wouldn’t use the Minecraft protocol

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:00 AM

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Why not?

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:01 AM

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I’d use my own protocol to make a proxy easier to distinguish from a server or client

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:01 AM

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Proxies should be chainable by simply being a proxy to player packets

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:01 AM

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and also, I wanna design a faster protocol

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:01 AM

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Follow protocols that bungeecord and other proxies suppourt so people can actually interlink rather than be stuck with a single thing

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Compat is a big deal

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:01 AM

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yeah ik

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to other proxies and servers/clients, the proxy will be just like them

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:02 AM

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jovial warren and also, I wanna design a faster protocol

You still would need to forward packets one way or the other

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:02 AM

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nah

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just forward some of the packets

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:02 AM

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also, I’m forwarding all the packets

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:03 AM

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Then where does the new protocol come in?

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:03 AM

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and firing events for them

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:03 AM

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old wyvern Then where does the new protocol come in?

true I guess, maybe I could come up with a new UDP protocol to replace the plugin messaging system

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:04 AM

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nah

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:04 AM

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meaning you can send messages between Krypton and the proxy on something that isn’t whacky horrible plugin messaging

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:04 AM

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make a completely new protocol

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not tcp or udp

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brand new

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:04 AM

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xD

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:04 AM

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lol

cinder flare Apr 30, 2021, 8:04 AM

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bardp

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:04 AM

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Bom Connection Protocol!

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:04 AM

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what about

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:04 AM

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BomCP

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:04 AM

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connection protocol

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:04 AM

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Bomp

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:04 AM

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BCP, sounds good to me

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:04 AM

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quiet depot connection protocol

daaayumm

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thats fire pig

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do it bard

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:04 AM

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lol

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:04 AM

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CP

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:05 AM

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stop taking the piss

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:05 AM

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Also make it randomly throw Xi Jimping quotes

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CommunismException: <Quote>

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:05 AM

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I actually want to have something to replace plugin messaging

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:05 AM

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Yes, Xi is great for messaging

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He'll shoot the messenger if they dont deliver

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forget udp

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:06 AM

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old wyvern ```CommunismException: <Quote>```

communist.lang.CommunismException: “your code is too capitalist! please fix it!” lol

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:06 AM

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😌

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:06 AM

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yeah I might use RabbitMQ or Redis

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but I’ll add stuff in the API to make them much easier to use

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and I’ll add fallbacks if they fail (disabled but plugin tries to use it)

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:07 AM

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will there be an easily accessible destroy everything button

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:08 AM

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if you want that, you got it

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:08 AM

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yes

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:08 AM

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remember I gotta write this all in Rust and C though lol

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:08 AM

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Use C++ please

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:08 AM

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I ain’t using Java or Kotlin here

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:08 AM

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Thanks

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:08 AM

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why c++ yugi

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:08 AM

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&&&&*****

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****^&^&^&^&^&

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:09 AM

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might make some JNI bindings though for it

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:09 AM

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c is faster than c++ right?

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:09 AM

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quiet depot why c++ yugi

The Unsafe Pointer

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:09 AM

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quiet depot c is faster than c++ right?

Same performance

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also, I was joking xD

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:09 AM

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quiet depot c is faster than c++ right?

depends

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:09 AM

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Not a fan of C++

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stdlib hell

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:09 AM

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old wyvern also, I was joking xD

nah it's just I've seen people say that c++ is faster, but that doesn't make sense to me

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:09 AM

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@obtuse gale

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:09 AM

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Oh last I read, they're pretty much the same speed

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Use Go bard

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:10 AM

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LilyPad already did that and nobody uses that

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:10 AM

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Easy to learn, Blazing fast compile time, good performance, Safe pointers

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:10 AM

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jovial warren LilyPad already did that and nobody uses that

not because it's made in go lol

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because very few people know about it

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:11 AM

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jovial warren LilyPad already did that and nobody uses that

Users dont care about the language

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mhm

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:11 AM

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also, I want an excuse to learn low level stuff lol

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:11 AM

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coelho basically fell off the face of the earth

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he used to be active, but I haven't seen a message from him in ages

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:11 AM

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I’ve heard nothing but great things about Rust

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:11 AM

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Go ahead

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:11 AM

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ye

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:11 AM

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and C is something I’ve wanted to learn for a while

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:11 AM

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Go ahead

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:11 AM

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🙂

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:12 AM

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yes I got it the first time

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:12 AM

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my philosophy

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:12 AM

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hahahaha

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:12 AM

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don't write important things in languages you're learning

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:12 AM

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Might be nice to learn

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But dont expect it to be great

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You'll struggle to get things to compile a lot

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xD

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But ofc,

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once its built

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PlusOne

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:13 AM

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once it's built you'll rewrite the whole thing because of how bad it is

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:13 AM

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True

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:13 AM

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if I write good C code then it could potentially be the fastest Minecraft proxy ever made

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:13 AM

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But I almost ussually end up rewrite everything anyway

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Like I'm already on my 3rd rewrite on the chat app I've been working on

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 8:14 AM

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If you aren't rewritting stuff you're doing something wrong

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prove me wrong

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:14 AM

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lol

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:15 AM

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I might end up moving to single activity architecture because otherwise normal java patterns become to weird on there

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:15 AM

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anyway, can you call C code from Rust?

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:15 AM

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Yes

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:15 AM

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isn’t it all just the same machine code anyway?

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:15 AM

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But then rust is no longer safe

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:15 AM

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jovial warren isn’t it all just the same machine code anyway?

After compilation, yes

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Dont rely on interop if possible

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:16 AM

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yeah I only wanna use C for really low-level network stuff where I can optimise the shit out of it

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:16 AM

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You already have unsafe rust if you wanna go far enough, but people dont even recommend using that

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:16 AM

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jovial warren yeah I only wanna use C for really low-level network stuff where I can optimise ...

You can do that in rust as well

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:16 AM

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so tl;dr I should just use Rust and Rust only then

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:16 AM

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In both cases, you loose some benefit of using rust

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:17 AM

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I might even get as low-level as hand writing assembly lol

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:17 AM

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I assume you're joking at this point

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:17 AM

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idk

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:17 AM

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Then you need a psychiatrist

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:17 AM

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language won't fix the design choices that limit our player counts on proxies

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:18 AM

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I want this to interact with native IO libraries

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:18 AM

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jovial warren I want this to interact with native IO libraries

Ah

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IO

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Use haskell

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🙂

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:18 AM

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is Haskell even fast?

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:18 AM

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Yes

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As fast as Java

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:18 AM

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didn't someone say it was slower than java

lunar cypress Apr 30, 2021, 8:18 AM

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Have you checked whether there are already java bindings to those libraries

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:18 AM

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Pretty much equally fast piggy

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 8:18 AM

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okie

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:19 AM

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I want to be able to interact directly with io_uring, Epoll and KQueue if present

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:19 AM

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lunar cypress Have you checked whether there are already java bindings to those libraries

talking to me?

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:19 AM

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Forget it, rewrite the network layer

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Introduce BardyNet

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:19 AM

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lol

lunar cypress Apr 30, 2021, 8:20 AM

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jovial warren talking to me?

yes

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:20 AM

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layer 0 😎

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Netty has stuff for native IO

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:20 AM

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Just Buffers afaik

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right?

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That too only in Netty 4

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:20 AM

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no, channels and event loops too

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:20 AM

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because they had huge memory leaks in 3

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:21 AM

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they have custom channels and event loops for the native IO stuff

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:21 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKJ0w30M0vg

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jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:21 AM

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so it might be worth using Java/Kotlin anyway and just ditching something like Rust?

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is that what you’re saying?

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:22 AM

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No?

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:22 AM

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Johnny asked if there’s Java bindings already for stuff

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:22 AM

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Im saying dont decide on going into micro optimizations before you have a working model

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:22 AM

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yeah true

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:22 AM

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Just use Rust without any weird hacks first

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:22 AM

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I started to design it yesterday a bit

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:23 AM

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Might be a good project for you to learn it

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But keep in mind, you'll most likely want to rewrite it later

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:23 AM

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client session <-> client bridge <-> proxy bridge <-> server bridge <-> server session

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and the proxy bridge can also bridge to other proxy bridges

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it’s designed around BungeeCord, though there may be a better way

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BungeeCord uses an upstream and downstream bridge to hook the client and server respectively

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 8:25 AM

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stop looking at ew stuff Bardy

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:25 AM

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yeah maybe that’s a good idea

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I need to somehow bridge the client and the server in a way that’s abstract enough that I can also bridge other proxies and allow for the server to not be configured to support the proxy (for standalone usage) and the other way around too (so it can run server side)

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:27 AM

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Remake minecraft

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:28 AM

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so making a bridge between the client and server connection and the proxy bridge means the proxy bridge doesn’t know that it’s necessarily talking to a client or a server, or even another proxy in the loop

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or am I just going completely crazy here

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:30 AM

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jovial warren so making a bridge between the client and server connection and the proxy bridge...

It shouldnt need to

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:30 AM

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I want to at least beat BungeeCord on performance, not sure about beating Velocity but that’s much harder anyway because of how much better it is

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:30 AM

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Its reponsibility is just to forward packets

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:30 AM

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true

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:31 AM

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Might wanna finish krypton before you start on this

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:31 AM

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yeah I will

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:31 AM

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Or else you'll end up with multiple unfinished projects that you'll burn out on

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:31 AM

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I mean, I need to learn another language to start on this anyway

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:31 AM

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old wyvern Or else you'll end up with multiple unfinished projects that you'll burn out on

sounds like me

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not like my GitHub is filled with unfinished projects or anything

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I think I should add block breaking next, which will be a pain in the ass since it requires me to send the block state changes in the ticking

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unless I can come up with a better idea maybe

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:33 AM

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Queue it

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:34 AM

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can you make a queue that has a wait between the time you can pop the head?

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:34 AM

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What?

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:34 AM

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like so you have to wait x time before you can get the head again after retrieving it?

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:34 AM

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Probably

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:34 AM

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since they aren’t sent every tick

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:34 AM

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but why?

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I mean tbh it might be better to send it on ticks

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:35 AM

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the time between when you send one varies from block to block

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:35 AM

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Otherwise you might lose out on reponsiveness

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 8:35 AM

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yeah probably

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yeah

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 8:42 AM

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#827055634586271775 message

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boi

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wat

lunar cypress Apr 30, 2021, 8:47 AM

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what do you want to use rust for now?

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If you want to interface with C libraries and JNI it's pointless

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just complicates things

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 9:03 AM

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No I want to make an MC proxy in it

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I said I could add JNI bindings for the API

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:19 AM

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jovial warren I mean, I need to learn another language to start on this anyway

H

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:23 AM

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hmm

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:24 AM

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🥶

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:24 AM

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@prisma wave You have a central proxy right?

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 9:24 AM

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prisma wave H

asskell

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:24 AM

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Is it supposed to download the html document of the selected path when you try to visit one of the repos? xD

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:24 AM

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old wyvern <@!266973575225933824> You have a central proxy right?

Yes

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 9:24 AM

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Because it sucks ass

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kekw

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:25 AM

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It its pretty much doing that for me atm

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:25 AM

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old wyvern Is it supposed to download the html document of the selected path when you try t...

thonking Probably not

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:25 AM

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📎 1.0.2

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https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/com/albroco/bare-bones-digest/1.0.2/

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very weird

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:25 AM

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odd

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:25 AM

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https://repo.vshnv.tech/releases/com/albroco/bare-bones-digest/1.0.2/

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Thats the correct path right?

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 9:26 AM

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ew maven

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:26 AM

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uh

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 9:26 AM

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bm what on earth is your nick

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:26 AM

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Well that doesn't point to a jar / pom so maybe not

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:26 AM

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pale shell bm what on earth is your nick

Applicative

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 9:26 AM

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lemme guess... new lang?

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:26 AM

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No

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:26 AM

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Oh so it needs to specifically target the jarfile?

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:26 AM

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probably

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Or a pom

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:27 AM

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is that what you did in pdm?

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I was assuming it would just fetch a "directory" xD

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:27 AM

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https://repo.aikar.co/nexus/content/repositories/aikar/co/aikar/acf-core/ like this or something

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:27 AM

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old wyvern I was assuming it would just fetch a "directory" xD

Nah I don't think so lol

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:27 AM

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old wyvern is that what you did in pdm?

Yeah, have a look at ReleaseArtifact / SnapshotArtifact

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:28 AM

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prisma wave https://repo.aikar.co/nexus/content/repositories/aikar/co/aikar/acf-core/ like t...

That isnt a proxied repo tho right?

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ok full url says file not found

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lmao

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or not

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the issues seems to be after a incorrect path was requested

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otherwise it provides the correct file

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 9:32 AM

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bm why you not in school smh

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wtf

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i didn't put that emoji

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:33 AM

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sure you didnt

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 9:33 AM

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i didnt tho

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i'm not in USA

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:34 AM

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pale shell bm why you not in school smh

I am

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 9:34 AM

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why you on discord then

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:34 AM

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old wyvern That isnt a proxied repo tho right?

No but the path is the same

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:34 AM

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pale shell why you on discord then

Why not

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:34 AM

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ah

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 9:34 AM

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arent you in a classroom

lunar cypress Apr 30, 2021, 9:35 AM

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shitposting on helpchat > paying attention in class

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:35 AM

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ahhh wait

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I found the issue

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So for proxied content I need to use direct path without the snapshot/repository directories

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weird

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 9:39 AM

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bm has left? pog

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:40 AM

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"Listening to Spotify"

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 9:40 AM

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no he gone

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he's finally learning

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:40 AM

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pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 9:40 AM

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he's learning why Haskell is so overrated kekw

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:41 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/basejump-cliff-fall-kartwheel-gif-18428001

Tenor

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 9:43 AM

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It's not suicide if you yell parkour

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:47 AM

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pale shell he's learning why Haskell is so overrated <:kekw:674093681963302933>

thonking

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How can it be overrated if there's about 4 people here that use it

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 9:47 AM

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that's more than 1

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1 too many kekw

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:50 AM

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Anyone know of a java / kotlin 2d graphics library that was made in the past century

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For generating stuff similar to Barry level up images

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Graphics2D is way too much effort

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 9:53 AM

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thonking

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:53 AM

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probably

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 9:53 AM

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depends on eachothers age

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i mean... your almost same age so

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:54 AM

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🤦‍♂️

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 9:54 AM

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LOL

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:54 AM

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you should be in school

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 9:55 AM

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you should be in school bm

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smh

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:55 AM

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pale shell you should be in school bm

Literally am

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:56 AM

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@prisma wave https://github.com/imglib/imglib2

GitHub

imglib/imglib2

A generic next-generation Java library for image processing - imglib/imglib2

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try this

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:56 AM

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Ah I saw that, isn't it more for scientific stuff?

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 9:56 AM

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prisma wave Literally am

yeah but you need to learn maths n shit

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:56 AM

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Yea it also includes image processing stuff but seems to also have stuff to simply just draw onto an image

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:57 AM

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Hmm okay

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I'll have a look

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:57 AM

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https://www.baeldung.com/java-images#3-editing-an-image

Baeldung

Working with Images in Java | Baeldung

A quick overview of several Java image-processing libraries, including a simple example done in all of them

lunar cypress Apr 30, 2021, 9:57 AM

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bro

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:57 AM

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Wasnt dev den bot in f# tho bm?

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:58 AM

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It was

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Not anymore

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Structuring stuff functionally is hard

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:58 AM

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ah lol

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 9:58 AM

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Decided to use a language that wouldn't make me feel guilty for a mutable map

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:58 AM

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lol

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 9:59 AM

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someone i'm talking to wants to learn to code, should I tell them to install eclipse?

old wyvern Apr 30, 2021, 9:59 AM

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Sure

lunar cypress Apr 30, 2021, 10:00 AM

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Give them intellij right away

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why eclipse

lunar cypress Apr 30, 2021, 10:00 AM

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prisma wave Decided to use a language that wouldn't make me feel guilty for a mutable map

(def state (atom {}))
``` ![fingerguns](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/730681133200834592.webp?size=128 "fingerguns")

heady birch Apr 30, 2021, 10:04 AM

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prisma wave Anyone know of a java / kotlin 2d graphics library that was made in the past cen...

Graphics2D

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😄

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 10:04 AM

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🙄

heady birch Apr 30, 2021, 10:05 AM

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Plus you can easily integrate with state of the art Swing applications!

oblique heath Apr 30, 2021, 10:05 AM

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swing 😏

heady birch Apr 30, 2021, 10:05 AM

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Lol

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 10:05 AM

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lunar cypress ```clj (def state (atom {})) ``` <:fingerguns:730681133200834592>

Apparently that's "not idiomatic" 🙄 🙄

lunar cypress Apr 30, 2021, 10:05 AM

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In Clojure it is 😌

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python + lisp at the speed of c
according to doom emacs

onyx loom Apr 30, 2021, 10:17 AM

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are u in the phillippines

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if not, then its probably illegal

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i cant tell if ur trolling sometimes

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 10:25 AM

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i gotta teach someone basic coding should i tell them to use maven? kekwhat

lunar cypress Apr 30, 2021, 10:25 AM

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they don't need a build tool for their first steps

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 10:26 AM

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what about the throwing them in the deep end thonking

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 10:52 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/O1hAVpy.png unformatted code, let's see if this triggers anyone 🙂

Imgur

onyx loom Apr 30, 2021, 10:52 AM

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beautiful

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 10:53 AM

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thanks!

steel heart Apr 30, 2021, 11:17 AM

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You’ve received a free ticket to hell

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 11:39 AM

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pale shell https://i.imgur.com/O1hAVpy.png unformatted code, let's see if this triggers any...

Funny how IJ doesn't even let you go back to the case indent automatically

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It has to either be done manually or formatted afterwards

#

Also, when on top

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Wait a minute...

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That switch is useless

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Just do player.sendMessage(newLevel.toString())

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 11:41 AM

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Unless you know a way to have like 30+ different things happening at different levels then switch it is.

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 11:42 AM

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At least chain the cases

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case 1: case 2: case 3: case 4: case 5:
    player.sendMessage(newLevel.toString())

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If this was Kotlin you would be able to use a range check in a when

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E.g. ```kotlin
when (newLevel) {
in 1..5 -> player.sendMessage(newLevel.toString())
}

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Also, 30+ different cases screams god method @pale shell

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You sure your method isn't handling too many edge cases?

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 11:47 AM

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edge cases @jovial warren ?

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I don't know how else I'd do it though.

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 11:49 AM

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what the

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you're sending the message everytime, why even have a switch lol

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 11:49 AM

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that's a debug message

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it's gonna have a different thing there

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I want it so at level 1 you get this at level 4 you get this at level 8 you get this so every 4 levels you get the next thing

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 11:51 AM

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Please don't tell me you're hardcoding messages

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 11:51 AM

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whatcha mean

#

for debug atm i got it like that

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 11:52 AM

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We do a little trolling

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 11:52 AM

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?

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 11:52 AM

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anyone good builder?

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maybe need some help lol

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 11:53 AM

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tnt will fix anything

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 12:16 PM

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pale shell edge cases <@!266294134116057089> ?

like cases that are unlikely but still possible

oak raft Apr 30, 2021, 12:17 PM

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pale shell https://i.imgur.com/O1hAVpy.png unformatted code, let's see if this triggers any...

https://tenor.com/view/javascript-hadouken-code-programming-gif-16271428

Tenor

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 12:18 PM

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ah PHP

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of course

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 12:43 PM

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oak raft https://tenor.com/view/javascript-hadouken-code-programming-gif-16271428

Are you trying to hint at something? thonking

oak raft Apr 30, 2021, 12:45 PM

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nooo

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why would you think that

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 12:46 PM

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I don't know, just the gif is trying to hint at something

oak raft Apr 30, 2021, 12:48 PM

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🙈 what are u talking about

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 12:54 PM

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idk it looks like it was built in eclipse also eyesshaking

steel heart Apr 30, 2021, 1:55 PM

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Spigot devs when they find kotlin KEKW

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 1:56 PM

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Void? 🤢

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I mean even I who has barely used any kotlin know you "return" Unit lmao

steel heart Apr 30, 2021, 1:57 PM

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yeah lol

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 1:58 PM

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also can we just appreciate the incredible naming convention?

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ccfg & cfg lol

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 1:58 PM

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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh jeez

steel heart Apr 30, 2021, 1:58 PM

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Lol didn’t see that nice one

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 1:58 PM

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ive seen people put even for listeners before 🥲

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apparently adding one more letter is too much

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 1:59 PM

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obtuse gale `ccfg` & `cfg` lol

You've no idea how much that fucking annoys me when people can't name shit properly

forest pecan Apr 30, 2021, 1:59 PM

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steel heart Spigot devs when they find kotlin <:KEKW:798295790773600306>

hes a kid that works on my modpack

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he private messaged me that same problem

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im like

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😬

steel heart Apr 30, 2021, 1:59 PM

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Lol wait

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Fr

forest pecan Apr 30, 2021, 1:59 PM

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Yeah

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he is on the Server Team

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and Forum Team

steel heart Apr 30, 2021, 2:00 PM

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I guess he’s more competent in java

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:00 PM

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lol

forest pecan Apr 30, 2021, 2:00 PM

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Mhm

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lol

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:00 PM

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You'd hope Conclure

steel heart Apr 30, 2021, 2:00 PM

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@forest pecan does he have gh?

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Let’s check him out frosty

forest pecan Apr 30, 2021, 2:01 PM

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Lol

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i will send

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wait

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 2:01 PM

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steel heart Spigot devs when they find kotlin <:KEKW:798295790773600306>

Oh my god that's so cursed

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:01 PM

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BM

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AM*

forest pecan Apr 30, 2021, 2:01 PM

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thats like returning Void

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right

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:01 PM

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nullable void

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 2:01 PM

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Yo

forest pecan Apr 30, 2021, 2:01 PM

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nullable void lol

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:01 PM

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prisma wave Yo

Oy

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:03 PM

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forest pecan i will send

waiting

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:04 PM

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bm

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tutorial

#

matt

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:04 PM

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forest pecan thats like returning Void

I mean yeah but you : Unit and just type return instead lol

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:04 PM

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mfcmd

forest pecan Apr 30, 2021, 2:04 PM

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lol

forest pecan Apr 30, 2021, 2:04 PM

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hot hull waiting

i cant find it

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:04 PM

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pulse: dude's github

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emily: betterjails 🥲

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:05 PM

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❓

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:05 PM

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forest pecan i cant find it

ask him

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:05 PM

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oh bm

#

r u there

#

aw

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😦

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:05 PM

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this is gonna be horrible code I swear cryingpepe

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:06 PM

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half harness ❓

been ""working"" on a rewrite for my (only published) plugin for almost a year now :kekw:

#

I barely have anything loll

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:06 PM

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oh boy

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:06 PM

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Fefo your name Emily or?

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:07 PM

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I wanna show ya'll the code I got but i'm scared it'll be roasted af but idk any other way to do it

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:07 PM

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hot hull Fefo your name Emily or?

Not legally yet but from now on yeah

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Odin, best way to improve is if we bully you

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:07 PM

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the issue is, I've googled it and i don't know the way to do it the way I wanna do it

forest pecan Apr 30, 2021, 2:07 PM

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waiting for reply

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:08 PM

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pale shell I wanna show ya'll the code I got but i'm scared it'll be roasted af but idk any...

oh believe me, all of us have been and are there

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:08 PM

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https://paste.helpch.at/erevivomud.java

#

I can't think of a reasonable way to optimize this

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:08 PM

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wat

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:09 PM

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i wanna do something at those levels right?

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so every 4 levels upgrade the player

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:09 PM

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hm is it just me or when hovering (not clicking) your name it says "copied" instead of "click to copy"? thonking (without copying ofc)

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that

forest pecan Apr 30, 2021, 2:10 PM

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he says he has a github

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:10 PM

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enum LevelRange {
  ONE(1, 3),
  TWO(3, 6),
  THREE(6, 9);
}

switch (range) {
  case ONE:
  etc
}

🤡

forest pecan Apr 30, 2021, 2:10 PM

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and its for a network

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but he wont tell me

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:10 PM

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you can do that frosty??

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:10 PM

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half harness mfcmd

Is the guide not good enough?

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:10 PM

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Can you seriously do that??

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:10 PM

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I mean you'd need a method to check the actual value but yes

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:10 PM

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ocean quartz Is the guide not good enough?

rewrite 🥺

quiet depot Apr 30, 2021, 2:10 PM

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works as expected for me fefo

steel heart Apr 30, 2021, 2:10 PM

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Pulse uh maybe he’s afraid of getting bullied

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:10 PM

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player specific tab completions 🥺

steel heart Apr 30, 2021, 2:10 PM

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Or like criticized

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:10 PM

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quiet depot works as expected for me fefo

when hovering, not clicking thonking

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odd

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:11 PM

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how hard would that be to implement frosty

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:11 PM

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steel heart Pulse uh maybe he’s afraid of getting bullied

#dev-general message

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:11 PM

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you can't store numbers like that btw

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

#

UltraPrisonPlayerRankUpEvent
you need more words such as Premium, Deluxe, Api, Extended, Impl, etc

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

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it won't let you put it like that

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

#

LevelRange getRangeByLevel(final int level) {
  LevelRange result = ONE;
   
  for (final LevelRange range : values()) {
    if (range.low < level && range.high >= level) {
      result = range;
      break;
    }  
  }

  return result;
}

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

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what you mean fefo

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

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cleaner if you invert the check, but yes

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

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hot hull ```java LevelRange getRangeByLevel(final int level) { LevelRange result = ONE;...

make that shit static

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

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steel heart Spigot devs when they find kotlin <:KEKW:798295790773600306>

That server is cursed

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

#

I didn't write the rankup event i'm hooking into

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

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oh lol

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

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Fefo, effort to write that in discord

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

#

facts

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

#

oh shit can i do this in kotlin??

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:13 PM

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bruh

#

I will slap you

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:13 PM

#

KOTLINN

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:13 PM

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what does this have to do with kt lol

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:13 PM

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I might do this in kotlin

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:13 PM

#

you mean the ranges shit?

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:13 PM

#

ye

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:13 PM

#

1..3? yeah

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:13 PM

#

thats dope

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:13 PM

#

Java 15 switch expressions 🥺

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:13 PM

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Is the entire plugin in kotlin?

#

If not then what a waste to use kotlin for that

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:13 PM

#

I've got 4 classes so far kekw

#

i'd put kotlin in for 1 method

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:14 PM

#

🤡

#

but like you can do this easily in java

#

so such a waste

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:15 PM

#

i mean... its cleaner in kotlin

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:15 PM

#

Not really

#

Lemme give you a full class example, and you'll see you don't really lose much

steel heart Apr 30, 2021, 2:16 PM

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Kotlin infers too much in my opinion but it’s ofc subjective

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:19 PM

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You can enforce strict mode

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 2:20 PM

#

there’s explicit API mode that requires explicit visibility and return types

steel heart Apr 30, 2021, 2:20 PM

#

well yeah I can ofc declare the types but then it kinda removes somewhat of kotlins uniqueness compared to java

#

so just java :]

#

tho krypton fire

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 2:20 PM

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steel heart tho krypton fire

why thank you sir

onyx loom Apr 30, 2021, 2:21 PM

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i never knew kotlins only advantage is that it has type inference

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:21 PM

#

Still better to type val name: String = "name" than public final String name = "name";

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:21 PM

#

https://paste.helpch.at/atebajaced.java

public void something(final int level) {
  switch (LevelRange.getRangeForLevel(level)) {
    case ONE -> { /* do stuff */ }
    case TWO -> { /* do stuff */ }
    default -> { /* how the fuck*/ }
  }
}

@pale shell

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:21 PM

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hot hull https://paste.helpch.at/atebajaced.java ```java public void something(final int ...

isn't this just a regular switch statement

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 2:21 PM

#

you can do that?

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

Java 15

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

oh wait

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

frosty, I can't put the values in the int

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

it has ->

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

guess Java is improving

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

isn't that the same thing as :?

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

like I can't do ONE(1, 3)

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

Well did you make the enum constructor

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

half harness isn't that the same thing as `:`?

No

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

ocean quartz No

whats the difference?

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

That's the range btw Odin

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

yeah switches require everything be constant

onyx loom Apr 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

not in java 15 afaik

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:23 PM

#

so 0, 4; 4, 9 etc

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:23 PM

#

jovial warren yeah switches require everything be constant

false

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:23 PM

#

: is "pass through" requiring a break, -> isn't

#

@half harness

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:23 PM

#

oh

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:23 PM

#

frosty i can't do that?

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:23 PM

#

wdym?

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 2:23 PM

#

hot hull false

about time they sorted that then

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:23 PM

#

Expected 0 arguments but found 2

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:23 PM

#

kotlin when has no break 😩

onyx loom Apr 30, 2021, 2:23 PM

#

good

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 2:23 PM

#

also, thinking of Java, how’s that world generator going?

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:24 PM

#

I mean have you created your enum properly

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:24 PM

#

jovial warren also, thinking of Java, how’s that world generator going?

🤡

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:24 PM

#

Kotlin when is a different beast

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 2:24 PM

#

half harness kotlin `when` has no break 😩

break bad

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:24 PM

#

what

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:24 PM

#

I thought it would just accept it, so no my bad.

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:24 PM

#

break prevents arrow code

onyx loom Apr 30, 2021, 2:24 PM

#

❓

#

what lol

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 2:24 PM

#

no

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:24 PM

#

look

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 2:24 PM

#

when stops when it matches a case

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:24 PM

#

jovial warren break bad

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-title-gif-9579192

Tenor

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 2:24 PM

#

it doesn’t do a switch and continue trying to match subsequent cases

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:25 PM

#

oh i think i got it now ty

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 2:25 PM

#

ocean quartz https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-title-gif-9579192

lol

onyx loom Apr 30, 2021, 2:25 PM

#

imagine saying when bad because u cant break from it 🤡

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:25 PM

#

Kekw

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 2:25 PM

#

when > switch

onyx loom Apr 30, 2021, 2:25 PM

#

this is definitely a you problem dkim

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:25 PM

#

Bardy, shut

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

#

I mean with switches you can fallthrough which is something you sometimes want to do

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

#

It's true though Frosty

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

#

Frosty not being able to accept facts smh

onyx loom Apr 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

#

sure fefo

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

#

I mean yea I agree, but still, shut

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

#

instead of kt when ("a") { "a" -> { if (!something) { break } if (!somethingelse) { break } somethinga() } "b" -> { if (!something) { break } if (!somethingelse) { break } somethingb() } } doAfter() you have to do ```kt
when ("a") {
"a" -> {
if (something) {
if (somethingelse) {
somethinga()
}
}
}
"b" -> {
if (something) {
if (somethingelse) {
somethingb()
}
}
}
}
doAfter()

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

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Lmao

obtuse gale Apr 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

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AAAH

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

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arrow code omg

onyx loom Apr 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

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but most of the time in my cases ive found the fall through to be worse

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

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:sadge:

jovial warren Apr 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

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omg dkim u stupid

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

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Dkim, you writing bad Kotlin code has nothing to do with the language

onyx loom Apr 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

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😂 😂 😂

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

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how do i avoid it ;-;

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:27 PM

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jovial warren omg dkim u stupid

yes ik

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:27 PM

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what the fuck is a stopship in java

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:28 PM

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half harness how do i avoid it ;-;

bump

onyx loom Apr 30, 2021, 2:29 PM

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just think for a second

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think about it real hard

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:29 PM

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...

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make a new function?

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._.

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i dont want to have a billion functions just for a when statement

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 2:31 PM

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FUNCTIONS

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:31 PM

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bm

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:31 PM

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Oh no

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You woke him up

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:32 PM

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nvm

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 2:32 PM

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yes

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I do

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What do they think

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Stop deleting messages Now

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tell me

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Right now

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:33 PM

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🤔

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 2:33 PM

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I'm not scizophdeenic

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Sscizophrenic

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Schizophrenic

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:33 PM

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lol

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well

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we were just talking

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casually

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right

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and then i pasted this:

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import Data.Char

p :: String -> IO ()
p ip = putStrLn $ fc ip
main = do {
  r;
}
r :: IO ()
r = do
  p . g $ m gl
gl :: [String]
gl = c "ghi" (-6)
g :: [String] -> String
g = head . tail
f :: [String] -> [String]
f i = filter (v) i
fc :: String -> String
fc st = filter (ic) st
ic :: Char -> Bool
ic ch = ch /= '\''
m :: [String] -> [String]
m i = f $ fmap (\x -> x) i
v :: String -> Bool
v _ = True
c :: String -> Int -> [String]
c i cf = (\x -> show $ chr $ ord x + cf) <$> i

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one hour ago

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this was the response

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haskell scared them away

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 2:35 PM

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lmao

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I mean

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That code could make me speechless

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:35 PM

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lol

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also

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ignore my nick

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thanks 🙂

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:35 PM

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half harness bump

Give me a real example

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:35 PM

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yo frosty, if you see this thanks for helping with the code

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:35 PM

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ocean quartz Give me a real example

what

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idk

ocean quartz Apr 30, 2021, 2:36 PM

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Then what is the issue lol

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:36 PM

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i dont have random code with me

prisma wave Apr 30, 2021, 2:37 PM

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when(x) < case x of

half harness Apr 30, 2021, 2:37 PM

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what

pale shell Apr 30, 2021, 2:37 PM

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btw guys, is this the best way to do it?

    ONE(1, 3),
    TWO(4, 7),
    THREE(8, 11);

Or do I need like

    ONE(1, 3),
    TWO(3, 8),
    THREE(8, 11);

?

hot hull Apr 30, 2021, 2:38 PM

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However you like