Doesn't LongTag extends Tag?
#dev-general
obtuse gale
jovial warren
LongArrayTag is not a subtype of CollectionTag<Tag>, it's a subtype of CollectionTag<LongTag>
jovial warren
Doesn't LongTag extends Tag?
yes
you tell that to Oracle
because they seem to think not
lunar cypress
Doesn't LongTag extends Tag?
yes but this doesn't work in generics
obtuse gale
Hm
jovial warren
this is likely all a compiler error anyway
static zealot
yo @onyx loom how the hell do I change the IDE import settings? I remember you saying something about it automatically imporing using * or something like that
when I PRed to CS
jovial warren
yo <@!280727829493055488> how the hell do I change the IDE import settings? I r...
settings -> editor -> code style -> imports -> single name
actually in Java you gotta just set your wildcard import number to something ludicrous
ocean quartz
I don't like wildcard imports
Also ktor code style: "Always use wildcard imports"
jovial warren
you what
onyx loom
lol
jovial warren
wildcard imports are terrible
lunar cypress
@jovial warren what does fillOne do exactly?
jovial warren
I mean for Ktor they kinda make sense
jovial warren
<@!266294134116057089> what does fillOne do exactly?
you tell me lol
ocean quartz
static zealot
k found and changed. ty
onyx loom
lmao
lunar cypress
can you at least share its signature...
jovial warren
I did
obtuse gale
It's in the paste
jovial warren
it's at the top of that paste
made sure to include both so you could reference them
obtuse gale
Both fillOne and fillMany add to the input CollectionTag so you can't pass an ? extends
lunar cypress
ok, well, this isn't type safe anyway so you might as well cast
static zealot
oh This is where I can disable the blank lines as well
jovial warren
ok, well, this isn't type safe anyway so you might as well cast
what should I be casting here?
lunar cypress
To CollectionTag<Tag>
obtuse gale
Why the hell are wildcards reified anyway :PepeCry:
lunar cypress
wildcards are not reified
obtuse gale
They are..?
jovial warren
what should I cast?
lunar cypress
No generics in java are reified
steel heart
I mean arent there refinable types or whatever its called
jovial warren
okay apparently it wants a ? super Tag, not a ? extends Tag, strange
steel heart
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/generics/nonReifiableVarargsType.html Maybe this is the wrong thing
obtuse gale
A type is reifiable if and only if one of the following holds:
...
It is a parameterized type in which all type arguments are unbounded wildcards (ยง4.5.1).
nvm it's unbounded wildcards
static zealot
fuck you then
onyx loom
thats fine there
static zealot
onyx loom
i have like 5 imports from there
static zealot
4
steel heart
bbg what do u use currently? Collection<?super T> or ? extends T
static zealot
out of like 10
steel heart
or just no wildcard at all?
onyx loom
the difference between u doing java.util.*, was that the class was only using UUID ๐ฅฒ
static zealot
anyways. also in extensions somewhere you forgot to use Allman
static zealot
for the setMessage
onyx loom
where is this
onyx loom
this is being fixed THIS INSTANCE
static zealot
no I fixed it
I'll PR
smh
Also in build.gradle
you sued "" instead of '' for adventure
smh
but I'm already fixing it
xD
jovial warren
anyone else here love void declarations? lol
steel heart
void is nice ๐คก
forest pecan
lmao
lunar cypress
okay apparently it wants a `? super Tag`, not a `? extends Tag`, strange
no it doesn't, but the super wildcard fulfills the constraints of that signature
jovial warren
ah right
lunar cypress
You should be able to pass a Tag as T too
jovial warren
yeah I'm using Tag
onyx loom
@static zealot are u committing anything else in the project btw
static zealot
nah just minor fixes xD
also why the fuck did it change to util.* again when I disabled it? 1 sec gotta fix this
lunar cypress
~~A type is reifiable if and only if one of the following holds:~~
...
~~It is a...
fair enough, that's because that happens to correspond to the representation of all generics at runtime
onyx loom
i had that before blitz, theres a thing u can change in the packages section
static zealot
oh will look at that too
onyx loom
u prob have java.util.* here
static zealot
hmm I thought I disabled it. Might have missed that one
this will be great PR
like 6 chars changed
onyx loom
amazing
u might aswell create readme add just add a . or smth xd
p.s please dont do that k thx
onyx loom
man wheres the embeds the past week
onyx loom
lmfao
hot hull
@simple karma That's a yikes request ngl
static zealot
<@!700739751052836884> That's a yikes request ngl
Why? U can just work 1 hour per month ...
gotta be smart about it Frosty. smh
hot hull
I mean it's 5-20/m
simple karma
It isn't that much I know, we can make it higher but we are already gone way above our budget ๐ฎ
ocean quartz
Experienced for large project, for $20 ๐ฌ
simple karma
Our budget is higher then you expected it to be.
static zealot
if it was 20$/h maybe
hot hull
So you're just cheap af then?
simple karma
Changed it
static zealot
an experience developer can make anywhere above 20$/hour
half harness
It isn't that much I know, we can make it higher but we are already gone way abo...
i mean its fine, just dont expect devs to cut out half their day for it
simple karma
Yeah but keep in mind that some people will do this, we already have 2 developers experienced in our team for free.
half harness
like i do free work for some servers, not much anymore since im busy with side projects
simple karma
i mean its fine, just dont expect devs to cut out half their day for it
They won't have to
steel heart
experienced is an ambiguous term in all fairness
hot hull
I mean as I said, if you're looking for someone experienced, expect like 15min a month of work
static zealot
wait I'm wrong
simple karma
They know C++, C#, Java, Python and much more coding languages
half harness
I mean as I said, if you're looking for someone experienced, expect like 15min a...
are you calling me unexperienced ๐ญ
hot hull
Yes
static zealot
according to some studies an Entry Level developer makes on average 32$/hour
steel heart
I mean dkim you're probably above entry level if we're talking spigot
static zealot
so yeah as frosty said 15-30 minutes of development per month with your budget
half harness
b-but
static zealot
yo @onyx loom what you said you wanna add to CStats but are to lazy to add?
steel heart
They know C++, C#, Java, Python and much more coding languages
Amount of languages isn't everything
ocean quartz
Yeah but keep in mind that some people will do this, we already have 2 developer...
Unfortunately they'll which sucks because then people think it's fine to charge nothing for hard work
hot hull
There's a pink moon today
static zealot
u mentioned you wanna ad something a while ago and I don't remember what xD
static zealot
well nvm then
half harness
Unfortunately they'll which sucks because then people think it's fine to charge ...
but it's fun
ocean quartz
Speak for yourself
onyx loom
unless u wanna do it blitz ๐
half harness
then thats another story
static zealot
unless u wanna do it blitz ๐
what lb type?
steel heart
I agree to a certain extent dkim, sometimes working free is fun
ocean quartz
If you wanna work for crumbs of bread go for it, but learn to value your work
onyx loom
kd
half harness
If you wanna work for crumbs of bread go for it, but learn to value your work
๐
hmm
jovial warren
oh btw, would anyone here know why a decompiler could possibly end up with a void declaration?
like declaring a type as void?
hot hull
ยธbecause the method was a void?
steel heart
compiler magic
jovial warren
is there something in bytecode that could cause that?
static zealot
dkim you're just stupid and understimate yourself. 20$/mo is dogsiht unless all they want you to do is a plugin that sends a message when its enabled and another one when its disabled lmao
obtuse gale
like declaring a type as `void`?
Context?
static zealot
kd
Well if you're in the mood of doing it then do it. It will probably be better than anything I'll do but if you don't feel like it then I can try and then you'll have to decide if its good enough
for you
onyx loom
ill do it blitz dw
static zealot
alr
steel heart
bbg might just be how its interpreted?
jovial warren
maybe
obtuse gale
lol what
jovial warren
I mean, it's easy enough to figure out what it should be, just wanna know why it occurs lol
steel heart
I've seen stuff like
int i = false; when looking into decompiled code
jovial warren
maybe CFR just being off on something
sounds like something Fernflower would produce
steel heart
yeah probably
jovial warren
obtuse gale
Classic lol
steel heart
yeah it could be anything
forest pecan
Required type: Object
Provided: Object
obtuse gale
Not really
steel heart
nope
static zealot
ill do it blitz dw
never actually looked at the leaderboard stuff but seems to be just a few lines
onyx loom
already done it basically lol
onyx loom
now tell me
static zealot
just wanted to see how it works
onyx loom
have u checked for an arithmetic exception ๐
obtuse gale
Lmao this
i have problem with database
paste the whole server log
https://paste.lucko.me/CoGNoxasBi
forest pecan
lol
onyx loom
nice server log
forest pecan
classic
static zealot
they don't want to show you the logs bcz "you will see what plugins they have" ...
some people are so dumb
obtuse gale
Oh god
onyx loom
fefo does LP have a ?startuplog FAQ ๐
obtuse gale
Those
onyx loom
they don't want to show you the logs bcz "you will see what plugins they have" ....
cracked plugins ๐
static zealot
obtuse gale
fefo does LP have a ?startuplog FAQ ๐
Eeh we have a !paste but it's kinda vague ngl
static zealot
cracked plugins ๐
Not really... I've seen a lot that either DM me it or don't want to send it but in the end send it (after I tell them send it or no support lmao)
obtuse gale
I very much prefer the one they have in EngineHub
onyx loom
?startuplog
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
onyx loom
best command for idots
obtuse gale
Please grab your latest server/client log (found in logs/latest.log) and put it on https://paste.enginehub.org/
Make sure to send the link to the logs to this channel, or in a private message to EngineHub Bot.
If this is a known issue, the bot will provide a solution for you. Otherwise, please wait patiently.
onyx loom
ebic
onyx loom
๐ซ
static zealot
and not talking about language barriers here
bcz that's understandable
but there are people who just type ?paste and tell me they don't understand what I mean xD
obtuse gale
To those I say "I speak the same English the bot message speaks so you won't understand me any better"
onyx loom
lol
hot hull
but there are people who just type `?paste` and tell me they don't understand wh...
I've made an amazing gif just for that!
?paste
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
obtuse gale
They want a human presence to waste their times on them
static zealot
yeah ๐ข
hot hull
You know how old that gif is jesus
static zealot
I've made an amazing gif just for that!
yo clip didn't even knew you left until today
obtuse gale
Like just read the fucking embed/wiki
hot hull
how could he, he's never on :KEK:
obtuse gale
Once I literally copy/pasted a whole wiki page paragraph by paragraph because they weren't willing to read it on their own
static zealot
lmao
obtuse gale
When I was finished I said "you do realize I just copy pasted exactly the page contents, right?"
"oooohh...."
static zealot
man sometimes its just to much
onyx loom
we try our best ๐ข
static zealot
I also love when they argue with you like they know better but they came here to you for help (and in the end it turns out you were right lmao)
onyx loom
sometimes its not enough ๐ข
obtuse gale
I also love when they argue with you like they know better but they came here to...
There are two types of those tho
hot hull
we try our best ๐ข
Not for a year
obtuse gale
Those that go "oh, you were right" and those that just deny they were wrong, laugh and insult
static zealot
just a random example: you need to restart server they reply no I don't. I have plugman. then I reply yes you do. Plugman is something you should burn not use they reply no... it works. Your plugin is broken and this can go on for 15 minutes or even more...
until they finally restart
onyx loom
Not for a year
"retired" staff
static zealot
the fucking server
onyx loom
hey frosty do u get a retired staff role, u deserve it ๐
obtuse gale
just a random example: ```you need to restart server``` they reply ```no I don't...
Lol the classic "plugman works fine" no it fucking doesn't, why do you think you're here
static zealot
also the one guy that didn't like the fact that I said ugh. at the start of my sentence.
I just told them to FUCK OFF
in all CAPS
onyx loom
"support" role
static zealot
Like I was legit trying to help him I just put ugh. at the start
static zealot
"support" role
I don't really care... I don't do this for the role lmao. I do it bcz not all of them are like that. Just read my status
you'll understand
obtuse gale
Can't copy on mobile :(
static zealot
that's just some lmao
I was to lazy to ss all of them
also found the conversation
1 second
obtuse gale
Yeah ofc lol
static zealot
I asked them if they checked the wiki first like ugh. have you checked the example on the wiki and they're like ugh isn't helpful or something and then they're like https://i.imgur.com/gBTIGS7.png
obtuse gale
idk if I've shared this one before but it isn't the first time I suggest someone to learn how to use a computer lol
static zealot
Like wtf man? I'm not paid to do this shit. And I've tried to help you. if you don't like the fact that I type ugh. at the start of every sentence you can FUCK OFF xD
obtuse gale
Jesus christ ikr?
static zealot
btw @onyx loom remember my whole thing about you not having to shade in Adventure? XD
half harness
idk if I've shared this one before but it isn't the first time I suggest someone...
too blurry ;-;
half harness
oh
half harness
how
tranquil crane
obtuse gale
too blurry ;-;
Click open original..
tranquil crane
high resolution
static zealot
here will make it 2
half harness
ah fixed
hot hull
here will make it 2
Check dms nerd
static zealot
Check dms nerd
I saw. you have a question. I will answer when I got some free time xD
onyx loom
aired ๐ฅฒ
tranquil crane
people who call luckperms lucky perms 
onyx loom
luckyperms
obtuse gale
Luckyprems
half harness
cap
tranquil crane
perish
obtuse gale
Luckyprems
@ocean quartz can vouch
static zealot
people who call luckperms lucky perms <:angry_fingerguns:737200293250334763>
even worse LuckyPermissions
tranquil crane
from now on you call lucko luckyo
ocean quartz
Dude it's such a pain in the ass to try to explain kids how to copy the startup logs, like legit, they can't even find that
half harness
LuckyPermys
ocean quartz
<@180369172046413824> can vouch
Lmao yes
onyx loom
LuckyPremissionsEx
obtuse gale
We once got one that said "LuckySPerms" oh god lmao
tranquil crane
LuckyPermissionsManagerEx
onyx loom
LuckyUltraPermissionsManagerEx
onyx loom
bLuckyUltraPermissionsPowerManagerEx
obtuse gale
PowerRanks loll
half harness
in github, how do you make those links?
tranquil crane
My-bLuckyUltraPermissionsPowerManagerEx
onyx loom
im out of plugins now ๐ฅฒ
tranquil crane
.gitmodules
ocean quartz
<@180369172046413824> can vouch
I wonder if he found the gm perms for luckyprems
obtuse gale
Ah lmao
tranquil crane
[submodule "Paper"]
path = Paper
url = https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper.git
branch = origin/master
for example
obtuse gale
The LuckyPrems gamemode komand
hot hull
"LuckyPrems"
obtuse gale
Also French auto-translations
"CharmPermes"
But the funniest one was by far "LuckSPerms" ||cuz internal jokes obviously ๐||
static zealot
LuckyPe||nis||
static zealot
I'm funny u see? I can make jokes
onyx loom
๐คจ
static zealot
Speaking of penises and sperms
forest pecan
what
hot hull
veri funny, many laughs
static zealot
onyx loom
very sad
forest pecan
you see
onyx loom
now buy it for me
ocean quartz
Same Blitz ๐ฆ
obtuse gale
i dont discuss about cum
Sure sure
steel heart
Anyone tried this way of creating a plugin, first start by spamming out interfaces for everything then implement them accordingly
static zealot
@onyx loom well idk java.util.* is not even in there
onyx loom
eeek
obtuse gale
First I write every class so like, I test it and it works etc
Then when I write the API I do it in the end lmao
obtuse gale
And make the current classes implement it
steel heart
ah okay
I thought only starting with interfaces might help with the oop infrastructure
obtuse gale
Kinda counterintuitive but yeah
static zealot
anyone know how to disable IJ improting java.util.* ? bcz these are my settings https://i.imgur.com/jyvqO3f.png and if I use optimise imports thing it changes java.util.UUID to java.util.*
forest pecan
i know how to remove wildcard imports in general, but not just one
static zealot
oh like this? https://i.imgur.com/9NgIlEf.png
static zealot
write the imports manually ๐คก
I usually do but when I use Optimise Imports it just changes it
forest pecan
who
forest pecan
LMAO
obtuse gale
import **.*; ๐
onyx loom
๐
onyx loom
alt enter is a god send
forest pecan
alt f4
static zealot
yes it is
onyx loom
i remember bardy shouting at me for writing imports manually until he told me about alt enter ๐
obtuse gale
Loll
ocean quartz
In school when we first started using Java we actually would always do import *; ๐ฅฒ
onyx loom
lol
obtuse gale
What the fuck
onyx loom
import * = cleaner code because less lines ๐
ocean quartz
We also used NetBeans so not much I can say about it
onyx loom
o tf blitz
static zealot
anyone know how to disable IJ improting `java.util.*` ? bcz these are my setting...
just gonna bump this xD
onyx loom
are u changing the code style in kotlin btw? just to make sure
instead of the java code style or whatever
static zealot
no? java
onyx loom
yikes
ocean quartz
Don't use optimize imports 
ocean quartz
Just do imports on the fly
onyx loom
it usually messes up the structure of how i like the imports, like ill have them lined up to create some form of arrow if possible lmao
obtuse gale
I believe you can set a style or something
obtuse gale
Somewhere in settings.. uh
onyx loom
nice
blitz, i havent tested before committing, i hope it works https://github.com/Kqliber/CombatStats/commit/2f08218e1ac7480b8cac545cff2726953ef5518c
static zealot
lmao
tranquil crane
ah the good 'ol implement now test on production
static zealot
KDs tho? KDR better
obtuse gale
ah the good 'ol implement now test on production
Well duh how else are you gonna test?
static zealot
to do the heavy lifting
onyx loom
๐
static zealot
lmao
tranquil crane
customers are better at breaking things than unit tests, production obviously superior
obtuse gale
When all checks pass
static zealot
I got no idea what Unit testing is 
onyx loom
sadge
half harness
sadge
onyx loom
basically checks if ur code works xd
obtuse gale
But unit testing ensures that individual units are, well, functioning as expected
People will break shit for misusing the product, testing saves you time even if they don't
half harness
i need unit test example for plugin ๐ฅบ
onyx loom
probably look at sx or bms github
obtuse gale
Usually you test individual methods or classes that are crucial for some functioning or that are prone to failure (due to bad design ||cough Regex cough||)
boreal needle
i run my formatting code through some unit tests
half harness
probably look at sx or bms github
links?
obtuse gale
Welcome back
jovial warren
i need unit test example for plugin ๐ฅบ
lemme help with that
half harness
๐
jovial warren
first, get a plugin called pitest
half harness
pitest?
jovial warren
id("info.solidsoft.pitest") version "1.6.0"
PIT mutation testing
basically fucks up your code real bad and tells you where said fuck ups didn't also fuck up your tests
in dkim terms
jovial warren
omg was that too hard to understand?
half harness
basically fucks up your code real bad and tells you where said fuck ups didn't also fuck up your tests
half harness
example?
oh
like strings?
and values?
and stuff
it changes it
and then it sees if the tests succeed
how is that funny
old wyvern
jovial warren
https://i.imgur.com/xfgD29h.png inverts and removes the conditional here
jovial warren
e.g. turns if (cause is TimeoutException) into if (cause !is TimeoutException) and also replaces it with if (false)
old wyvern
Its a tool to check test coverage dkim
jovial warren
^
old wyvern
The point is to make sure your unit tests pass only for the right logic
onyx loom
but ur code already is? :kekw:
boreal needle
ikr
obtuse gale
meanie
onyx loom
lol
ocean quartz
Rudiber
ocean quartz
Lmao
onyx loom
next time i nitro boost matt
ocean quartz
Nah, Math
ocean quartz
Oh lmao
obtuse gale
Your message was removed as it contained an inappropriate link!
forest pecan
static zealot
@onyx loom time to add Top Deaths leaderboard? xD
obtuse gale
Wat
onyx loom
lmao
onyx loom
i thought about it before, but wasnt sure whether or not to put the leaderboard sorting my most or least amount of deaths
ocean quartz
There
static zealot
i thought about it before, but wasnt sure whether or not to put the leaderboard ...
both then? xD
static zealot
probably most
onyx loom
lmao, ill pass
static zealot
tho
bcz least will just probably be a bunch of 0 deaths bots
that joined the server
or shit like that
onyx loom
๐ฅฒ
obtuse gale
@forest pecan
95%
I need to chat please
Controversial topic
Now
@static zealot help me
onyx loom
haskell bad
static zealot
<@444552204158763016> help me
I'm here for you
onyx loom
very controversial
static zealot
tell me what you need what you really need
half harness
haskell bad
incorrect
prisma wave
haskell bad
ROT IN HELL
onyx loom
nono
i do not agree with my statement
however some people may find it controversial ๐ฅฒ
prisma wave
me neither
onyx loom
they just not have seen the light yet ๐
forest pecan
<@347005619825278976>
kk
prisma wave
if you disagree with the statement you should be put to death
obtuse gale
I believe we can all agree that Haskell not only is bad but functional programming as a whole is a joke in and of itself
static zealot
yo @onyx loom one thing I do think you should add is best killstreak for each user
half harness
OOP > FP
obtuse gale
^
prisma wave
I believe we can all agree that Haskell not only is bad but functional programmi...
you are a lesser human being
obtuse gale
Object oriented programming will prevail
obtuse gale
There is no doubt in that
onyx loom
do u wanna do that one? ๐ฅฒ
static zealot
do u wanna do that one? ๐ฅฒ
ye xD
prisma wave
as if java is even real OOP ๐คฃ
onyx loom
go for it mate ๐
half harness
as if java is even real OOP ๐คฃ
edit: JVM > FP
onyx loom
wat
prisma wave
half harness
lol
forest pecan
wat
prisma wave
ever heard of clojure and scala
half harness
uh
onyx loom
how can u compare a vm to a programming paradigm lol
half harness
not really no
obtuse gale
Clojure please
half harness
how can u compare a vm to a programming paradigm lol
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
obtuse gale
I need to learn the clojure ways
half harness
edit: Kotlin > Haskell
obtuse gale
(I actually need to lol)
onyx loom
๐ฅฒ
half harness
is it bad that this happens multiple times daily
forest pecan
the red is just part of the font
obtuse gale
That looks fine asf boy
forest pecan
its okay
onyx loom
yes pulse, exactly
forest pecan
is it bad that this happens multiple times daily
yes it is fine dkim
prisma wave
I need to learn the clojure ways
clojure good
half harness
yes it is fine dkim
ok
forest pecan
10 blue screens in a day is also fine
obtuse gale
the red is just part of the font
The squiggly lines tell you the code that will work
forest pecan
well
onyx loom
im surprised i still have this saved bm
forest pecan
The squiggly lines tell you the code that will work
yeah
onyx loom
i have no idea why xd
static zealot
go for it mate ๐
oh one thing I should also do is change the current ks leaderboard to use the best ks shouldn't I?
obtuse gale
And the ones that don't have them will also work
onyx loom
can do separate blitz
static zealot
hmm I guess
prisma wave
i have no idea why xd
because it's blessed
obtuse gale
clojure good
How come
prisma wave
how not come
obtuse gale
What are its advantages over other languages of its kind
obtuse gale
Yes
obtuse gale
Yes
obtuse gale
In that order
onyx loom
clojure got speedy persistent collections
obtuse gale
I just saw that '(1 2 3) makes a list
onyx loom
clojure good
prisma wave
that is true
obtuse gale
And I'm like "I'm done"
prisma wave
clojure fast...?
obtuse gale
Probably
onyx loom
very fast, because obviously collections are the only things that matter in a language ๐
prisma wave
I just saw that `'(1 2 3)` makes a list
as far as i know vectors are more idiomatic, which would be [1 2 3]
forest pecan
( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ) is apparantly a musical artist
obtuse gale
Yeah what's the difference between vectors and lists in clojure
obtuse gale
( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ) is apparantly a musical artist
It probably is if you read hard enough
prisma wave
vector = arraylist
list = linkedlist
half harness
how do i fix intellij colors not loading ๐ญ
obtuse gale
Ah like in C++
forest pecan
how do i fix intellij colors not loading ๐ญ
u suck
forest pecan
you dont deserve colors dkim
half harness
its been like 5 minutes
forest pecan
you only get black and white
onyx loom
restart ij dkim
half harness
autocomplete doens't work either
half harness
restart ij dkim
ok
obtuse gale
Dkim how many times do we have to tell you to get a better computer
forest pecan
^
obtuse gale
Just stop being poor
forest pecan
^
half harness
;-;
onyx loom
lmao @static zealot what a great PR
obtuse gale
Yes we can all agree that poverty is the number one cause of poor people
Unless we don't
onyx loom
u literally add 1 char to like 5 lines ๐
half harness
restart ij dkim
YAY
half harness
COLOR IS BACK_ _
obtuse gale
https://clojure.org/about/rationale
Customers and stakeholders have substantial investments in, and are comfortable with the performance, security and stability of, industry-standard platforms like the JVM. While Java developers may envy the succinctness, flexibility and productivity of dynamic languages, they have concerns about running on customer-approved infrastructure, access to their existing code base and libraries, and performance. In addition, they face ongoing problems dealing with concurrency using native threads and locking. Clojure is an effort in pragmatic dynamic language design in this context. It endeavors to be a general-purpose language suitable in those areas where Java is suitable. It reflects the reality that, for the concurrent programming future, pervasive, unmoderated mutation simply has to go.
Well yes he makes a very good point though
half harness
yes
onyx loom
ok!
prisma wave
> Customers and stakeholders have substantial investments in, and are comfortabl...
ok that's a lot of words
๐
obtuse gale
Why did I write yet another programming language? Basically because I wanted:
- A Lisp
Agreed
static zealot
want a medal
Btw is this intentional? When a player dies for other reasons than another player, his deaths are not counted. I mean it does make sense since the plugin is called CombatStats but wanted to make sure
onyx loom
unmoderated mutation simply has to go
๐
obtuse gale
A Lisp is always good to have
onyx loom
it resets the killstreak, am i correct in saying that blitz?
prisma wave
ik you're circlejerking but rich hickey does actually have some pretty interesting talks
static zealot
it resets the killstreak, am i correct in saying that blitz?
yeah
but doesn't add deaths
prisma wave
he does seem to be a pretty clever guy
half harness
anyone wanna help me test bw again
static zealot
bcz you techincally don't count it as a death
onyx loom
ok. i mustve missed that out as i was getting some issues with grabbing statistics on 1.8, so had to create my own kills/deaths storage, but mustve forgot to add that
half harness
fixed some bugs from last time
onyx loom
its meant to count the death blitz
static zealot
ah alright gonna add it
oak raft
๐
half harness
ill dm u ip, 1 sec, im building plugin
oak raft
ok
static zealot
its meant to count the death blitz
btw allman doesn't work with run. Do you want me to use a if statement instead? xD https://i.imgur.com/ZomlZ1e.png
oak raft
wtf is ?:
prisma wave
elvis operator
prisma wave
wait
obtuse gale
Okay
half harness
wtf is `?:`
val variable: SomeClass? = null
variable ?: return
println("not null")
I wait
half harness
"not null" will never print
half harness
yes
obtuse gale
Yes
half harness
if u mean java ternary
obtuse gale
Impressive
prisma wave
incredible
obtuse gale
Unbelievable
prisma wave
this is what alan turing died for
static zealot
kotlin doesn't have var x = CONDITION ? RESULT IF TRUE : RESULT IF FALSE right?
I have to use if statement
prisma wave
indeed
static zealot
alr
prisma wave
x = if condition then result else other ๐
obtuse gale
Yuck
prisma wave
die
obtuse gale
My pleasure
static zealot
`x = if condition then result else other` ๐
yep
prisma wave
haskell good?
onyx loom
btw allman doesn't work with run. Do you want me to use a if statement instead? ...
run()
{
}
hacky
obtuse gale
yuck
onyx loom
nah its actually quite nice after getting used to it imo
that run can be lifted outside aswell i think blitz
obtuse gale
Fair enough we do nothing but get used to things until we say we like it
onyx loom
return run() { blah}
obtuse gale
600xp to go ๐ฅฒ
onyx loom
smh its not even a tier up
ocean quartz
Allman in Kotlin is kinda bad, you'll use it on most things but for example
forEach
{
}
Doesn't work
ocean quartz
Yuck
static zealot
well kaliber here comes another untested PR xD
static zealot
btw bestKillstreak is fine? xD
the naming
I mean
bcz top would imply a leaderboard
onyx loom
highest ๐
static zealot
oh highest it is then
onyx loom
3 prs in 1 day, most ive had ๐
i feel bad for blitz, hes always PRing stuff for me but i never PR anything back lmao
static zealot
Well I don't have an actual project to PR to
onyx loom
i shall return the favour one day
static zealot
well actually BountySystem
xD
but idk what to add to that anymore
anything else would just be useless
onyx loom
lol
onyx loom
do i see an elvis operator in haskell
prisma wave
absolutely
static zealot
lmao
jovial warren
another thing to add to the list of things Kotlin stole
half harness
oh no
colors are gone again
there are colors in one project
but not the other
๐ญ
onyx loom
guess what the solution is!
onyx loom
is that a custom operator or is it actually in the language bm?
prisma wave
custom operator
onyx loom
wym ur block placing works absolutely fine
prisma wave
super cool
jovial warren
no I fixed it
onyx loom
idk man i thought was a feature cant lie
jovial warren
I wasn't checking if the existing section's palette had air in it
and through the power of linked lists, I just used addFirst to add AIR to the head of the list
half harness
guess what the solution is!
restart no fix ๐ญ
onyx loom
L
jovial warren
F
onyx loom
restart again ๐
half harness
;-;
jovial warren
restart again ๐
onyx loom
please give me an award
jovial warren
> ๐
jovial warren
lol
half harness
intellij bad
prisma wave
@half harness . ๐
half harness
lol
jovial warren
<@!521485088995672084> `.` ๐
wat
prisma wave
he was asking about uses of the . operator
onyx loom
fun main() {
println("Enter a number")
val number = readLine().toIntOrNull() ?: println("Invalid Input")
println(number * number)
}```@prisma wave ๐
prisma wave
๐
lunar cypress
It's not a reference, it's a monad
onyx loom
id like to see haskell do that in 5 lines!
onyx loom
is that PURE though???
of course ๐
lunar cypress
https://x0.at/fiI.png
That still emacs?
prisma wave
That still emacs?
yup
lunar cypress
Do you know you can have a shell in emacs?
jovial warren
```kt
fun main() {
println("Enter a number")
val number = readLine().toIntOr...
fun main() = println("Enter a number").let { _ -> println(readLine().toIntOrNull()?.let { it * it } ?: "Invalid input") }
im pretty impressed with emacs, haskell works perfectly out of the box compared to Vim and vsc
oh?
jovial warren
I wanna see if that works now
onyx loom
that is absolutely disgusting bardy
lunar cypress
Probably haskell mode has even special keybinds to run programs and such
prisma wave
ooh hopefully
jovial warren
that's the sort of code that makes me question how I sleep at night
static zealot
btw @onyx loom when is spigot page coming? I can PR a README file for now like I have on https://github.com/BlitzOffline/BountySystem If you're ok with that
static zealot
oh
lunar cypress
In vanilla eacs bindings language specific stuff is usually behind C-c, but you can also try and search for haskell in C-h f
onyx loom
soon soon
static zealot
(github release)
prisma wave
oh wow there's definitely a lot of commands
onyx loom
ill test it again first
jovial warren
fun main() = println(readLine()?.toIntOrNull()?.let { it * it } ?: "Invalid input") omg that easy
didn't even need the let
static zealot
well I PRed the highest killstreak
gonna do a readme now
if you want
wait for the readme
prisma wave
i gotta figure out how you do repl based development
static zealot
yo got a catch phrase or something for CStats? @onyx loom
onyx loom
catch phrase lmao
jovial warren
okay 2 lines
static zealot
or a very short description idk
onyx loom
u can make one up ๐
lunar cypress
And there are different shell types, there's an inferior shell (M-x shell RET) which lacks a lot of terminal features but is used like any other buffer, and there is ansi-term which I haven't really used yet
jovial warren
fun main() {
println("Enter a number")
println(readLine()?.toIntOrNull()?.let { it * it } ?: "Invalid input")
}
``` @onyx loomNo I can't lmao.
believe me you don't want me to make one
well I'll just leave it empty
or something
onyx loom
believe me you dont want ME to make one lmao
jovial warren
this is why I love Kotlin
onyx loom
alr lol
static zealot
just gonna add a // TODO: add short description xD
lunar cypress
If haskell has a repl you can use while coding there's surely a package for it that doom already installed
obtuse gale
Johnny
jovial warren
just gonna add a `// TODO: add short description` xD
// TODO: Remember to check the TODOs
obtuse gale
I need your guidance
ocean quartz
Clojure?
obtuse gale
Show me the clojure ways
prisma wave
If haskell has a repl you can use while coding there's surely a package for it t...
hopefully
i'll have a look at the docs for haskell-mode
ocean quartz
Show me the clojure ways
(((Basically) (like)) this)
just a joke
obtuse gale
(((Basically) (like)) this)
*just a joke*
except that it's not
lunar cypress
Oh yeah for info about your current major mode: C-h m
onyx loom
agreed
lunar cypress
Show me the clojure ways
Sure thing
obtuse gale
The ways to Cloje
jovial warren
(((Basically) (like)) this)
*just a joke*
looks like the sort of cursed redundant cast output you get from a decompiler 
obtuse gale
kinda neat you can just # prefix a string to create a regex
onyx loom
clojure, more like closure cus ur gonna kill urself when looking at it !!!
obtuse gale
yes that's what I'm up to
lunar cypress
Yeah, that's a reader macro (expanded to code while reading). You can actually define and register your own
obtuse gale
Ah yeah I saw a nice PowerPoint-like graph showing that the code goes through a reader first ๐
Yeah this is the kind of thing I'd put in a powerpoint lmao
obtuse gale
:pebkac:
lunar cypress
point free?
prisma wave
no parameters declared
double = (*) 2 instead of double x = x * 2
ah got it
square = foldr (*) 1 . replicate 2
cursed
prisma wave
id like to see haskell do that in 5 lines!
main = putStrLn "Enter a number" >> (fromMaybe "Invalid Input" . fmap (show . foldr (*) 1 . replicate 2) . readMaybe) <$> getLine >>= putStrLn 1 liner ๐
excluding the import
static zealot
@onyx loom done. you can close PR
well merge it then close xD
guess he went to sleep already
he should be online 24/7 !! smh
onyx loom
nah i was just helping around the house ๐ฅฒ
static zealot
why!? you should be here 24/7!!!
onyx loom
my bad
static zealot
onyx loom
i sincerely apologise
static zealot
I accept your apologies
oak raft
https://tenor.com/view/the-most-unacceptable-behavior-ive-ever-seen-in-my-life-f...
is that u irl
lunar cypress
oh hey <@!234343108773412864> guess what I got
what's your specs?
static zealot
is that u irl
NO! I have posted images of myself here before. smh
tranquil crane
send help
static zealot
here @oak raft #dev-general message
prisma wave
Do a barrell roll
obtuse gale
just the usual
oak raft
NO! I have posted images of myself here before. smh
OHH YEQAH
tranquil crane
let c = document.querySelectorAll('*');
for (let i = 0; i < c.length; i++) {
const elem = c[i];
elem.style.transform = 'rotate(' + ((Math.random() - 0.5) * 5) + 'deg)';
}
this is going on, paste it into your discord console
really brings a whole new experience to discord
onyx loom
what's your specs?
just incase he doesnt answer anytime soon, he has a ryzen 7 3700x iirc, thats about all i know
tranquil crane
ctrl+r undoes it
onyx loom
Hold up!
static zealot
gonna join discord team
how did they do this? https://i.imgur.com/Tn1LwNt.png
oh finally
pale shell
https://twitter.com/git lost ya'll might find this acc funny
Twitter
static zealot
yeah I usually don't care either
static zealot
https://twitter.com/git lost ya'll might find this acc funny
Oh boy
why embeds so bad
the link does not work anymore (Tried it with a VPN lmao)
btw the "hidden" codes for netflix genres are a life saver
I found so many good movies using them
bcz Netflix sucks and only promotes what it wants
(mostly movies they paid a lot for or their own movies lmao)
Fefo wake up!! we need to get that 400 xp
@onyx loom u gonna write a bible? Or just hi
like BM
onyx loom
hi
static zealot
k good to know
pale shell
Lmao
static zealot
accept my PR please. I wanna see the beautiful readme on your github