#dev-general | HelpChat | Page 448

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:05 AM

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degree in CS is basically the de facto standard these days, even though it doesn’t really teach you all that much about programming

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does teach you a lot of other useful things that help you program and problem solve though

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 8:06 AM

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I looked at the 3 year learning content for CS in high school, they teach you jack shit

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stuff I learned within a year of learning it myself

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 8:06 AM

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jovial warren degree in CS is basically the de facto standard these days, even though it doesn...

this is why my major is software engineering

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 8:06 AM

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Would getting an online degree for this work or?

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What's the point of this?

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 8:10 AM

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because they format the number?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:10 AM

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it’s way bigger than that

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 8:10 AM

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it has a comma, so he assumes it's a double

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where is the comma

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:11 AM

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max value is approximately 1.8x10^108 according to stack overflow

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 8:11 AM

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the problem is over here, we use commas for 3 digit separation, but some countries use commas for decimals

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d;double%max-value

ruby craterBOT Apr 26, 2021, 8:11 AM

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java.lang.Double%MAX_VALUE

public static final double MAX_VALUE```

Description:

A constant holding the largest positive finite value of type double, (2-2^-52^)·2^1023^. It is equal to the hexadecimal floating-point literal 0x1.fffffffffffffP+1023 and also equal to Double.longBitsToDouble(0x7fefffffffffffffL).

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:12 AM

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even bigger in Java, jesus

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doubles can be huge because they use scientific notation

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they use a mantissa and an exponent

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devs in the Minecraft community in general are idiots

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 8:14 AM

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Thank you ❤️

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:14 AM

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there are some exceptions, you are one of them

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along with lucko, Maximvdw, and a few others

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and BM

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never seen you code

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 8:15 AM

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Best keep it that way

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:16 AM

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hot hull Best keep it that way

[insert roast GIF here]

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 8:16 AM

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efe bad

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:16 AM

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lol

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most people in this chat can code

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most plugins on Spigot are made by 12 year olds who don’t make them OS because they don’t know what Git is

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 8:18 AM

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they're also under the misconception that their code is valuable

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:18 AM

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ikr

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 8:18 AM

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my code ain't worth shit

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We figured that out a while ago

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:kek:

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:18 AM

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neither is mine

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even though it’s under my copyright

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technically MIT counts lol

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just because it’s freely distributable doesn’t mean it’s not copyrighted

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 8:22 AM

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I don't bother with licensing

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:24 AM

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that means your code is copyrighted and no one has rights to make derivatives or work on it

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 8:25 AM

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nah fam

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:25 AM

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yes fam

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if you don’t license your libraries, no one can use them

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@quiet depot I swear you know this stuff, I am right here aren’t I?

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 8:26 AM

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you're right but you're missing a key point

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:27 AM

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which is?

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 8:27 AM

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tis OS, ain't noone give a fuck

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 8:27 AM

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the only person that can stop people from doing it is the author

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:27 AM

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true

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 8:27 AM

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if the author doesn't act on his copyright, then there is nothing stopping people from using their code

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however people won't use their code because relying on that isn't a good idea

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:28 AM

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Frosty you should just license your code properly anyway, since if anyone who respects licensing wants to use it, they’ll come and ask you first

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 8:28 AM

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a license is essential

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:28 AM

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indeed it is

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 8:28 AM

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I mean if they're unsure whether they can use it or not, my contact details are on gh so they're free to ask

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 8:28 AM

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another thing

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I believe github applies a license of sorts on everything you upload

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:29 AM

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not from what I read on GitHub’s docs

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they mentioned nothing about applying their own license

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actually you’re right pig

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 8:31 AM

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https://docs.github.com/en/github/site-policy/github-terms-of-service#5-license-grant-to-other-users

GitHub Terms of Service - GitHub Docs

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:31 AM

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ToS says that anyone has rights to view and fork public repos

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in terms of choosing a license though, I personally recommend either MIT or Apache 2

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 8:32 AM

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MIT is the usual go-to

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:32 AM

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Apache 2 requires that your code remains credited to you, but still allows most of the other MIT freedoms such as sublicensing

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I kinda like the idea of people not being able to just take what you’ve spent hours and hours of your time on and just remove all your credit and claim it as theirs

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 8:44 AM

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I mean yea the claiming as yours is out of the question

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 8:45 AM

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Apache 2 makes sure of that

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Kotlin’s under Apache 2 I think

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JetBrains seems to like Apache 2

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might also be used in IJ

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I’ve been thinking a lot though about relicensing Krypton under a different license

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if I was going to relicense, I’d either use LGPL or Apache 2

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I wouldn’t relicense the API though, just the server

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well, both would get relicensed under Apache 2 if I chose that, but the API would stay under MIT if I chose LGPL

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or I could just stick with MIT

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which probably isn’t a bad idea

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man, 28 upvotes, how lol

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pig you should upvote Krypton 🙂

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:00 AM

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If MC servers would be written in C++, could it increase performance?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:00 AM

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maybe

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 9:00 AM

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I mean even java would be fine if it weren't single threaded lol

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:00 AM

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speaking of servers, I’m currently working on one in Kotlin

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:00 AM

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jovial warren speaking of servers, I’m currently working on one in Kotlin

like how?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:01 AM

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https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton

GitHub

KryptonMC/Krypton

A fast, lightweight Minecraft server written in Kotlin - KryptonMC/Krypton

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:01 AM

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tropic cypress like how?

wiki.vg, using vanilla as a reference, and a whole lot of patience

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:02 AM

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in words of performance, krypton or paper/forks?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:03 AM

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Krypton isn’t even close to being fully functional yet, so still Paper, but I will optimise the shit out of it when I’m done

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:04 AM

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I mean are you lead of that project?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:04 AM

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like I’m aiming for playable gameplay with 1000 players online in a single world

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:04 AM

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tropic cypress I mean are you lead of that project?

yes

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:04 AM

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It seems so cool

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:04 AM

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thanks!

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:04 AM

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I started it but it just didn't work, why?

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it's just loading files

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 9:05 AM

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bruh

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:05 AM

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any error messages?

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you need to provide it with a world btw

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there’s no generation yet

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put the world folder in the root directory (same one as the JAR, just like you would with vanilla) and set the world name in config.conf to the name of the world folder

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:07 AM

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okay

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 9:07 AM

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.conf

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what format are you using

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 9:07 AM

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hocon

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:07 AM

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I hate json and conf

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 9:07 AM

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beauty

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:08 AM

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why it's not just yml

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:08 AM

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HOCON is a beauty

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 9:08 AM

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because yml is horse shit

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:08 AM

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YAML is awful, that’s why

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:08 AM

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it's readable at least

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:08 AM

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HOCON is very versatile

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 9:08 AM

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and how is hocon not?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:08 AM

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how is the config not readable?

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look at it

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:08 AM

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it's just black

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 9:08 AM

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probably some spigot plugin which uses hocon and just throws shit everywhere

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:09 AM

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hot hull and how is hocon not?

if you said that to me, I never heard about it

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 9:09 AM

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lol

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 9:09 AM

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:what:

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:09 AM

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the config is really clean and clear imo

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:09 AM

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there are no colors

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 9:10 AM

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are you talking about syntax highlighting?

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that's the fault of your editor

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:10 AM

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yes

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:10 AM

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you probably need a plugin in your editor for that

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 9:10 AM

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use a better editor

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or get a plugin ye

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:10 AM

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sensible

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:10 AM

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Notepad++ and Sublime should definitely support it

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:10 AM

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I never thought about it

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:10 AM

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jovial warren Notepad++ and Sublime should definitely support it

it's black on notepad++

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:10 AM

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weird

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:11 AM

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agreed

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:11 AM

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try looking for a HOCON plugin under tools -> plugins

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 9:11 AM

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sublime doesn't have native support for hocon fyi

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:12 AM

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strange

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anyway, it’s really easy to edit the config

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everything is commented

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:13 AM

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how long have you been working on it

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:14 AM

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about 2 and a half months

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:14 AM

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wow

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did you only need kotlin or?

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 9:14 AM

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tropic cypress If MC servers would be written in C++, could it increase performance?

They should use haskell or RUST

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:14 AM

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it’s been around longer than that, but my first commit that actually made it work was on the 13th Feb

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:14 AM

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tropic cypress did you only need kotlin or?

wdym by that?

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:15 AM

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while writing it, is it just kotlin or did you use another languages

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:15 AM

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my code is all Kotlin

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all the code in the project is Kotlin

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 9:15 AM

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I am in the process of authoring a PR to convert everything to clojure though

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:15 AM

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it does however use some Java libraries

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:16 AM

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does krypton has proxy server sofware support?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:16 AM

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not yet

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well, technically yes

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:16 AM

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will you write it or add support for bungee or velocity or something?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:16 AM

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Velocity works fine with no forwarding

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:17 AM

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im impressed

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:17 AM

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Bungee doesn’t because of how it appends the user’s UUID and IP in the address of the handshake

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and it does some other whack that is non-standard

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:17 AM

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tropic cypress im impressed

great!

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 9:17 AM

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startKryptonServer :: Int -> IO Server

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:18 AM

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I love Kotlin name

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:18 AM

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int?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:18 AM

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prisma wave startKryptonServer :: Int -> IO Server

lol

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 9:18 AM

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oblique heath int?

INT

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:18 AM

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what's the int

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 9:18 AM

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Port

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:19 AM

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wouldnt that be in the config o.o

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 9:19 AM

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tropic cypress I love Kotlin name

I love you

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:19 AM

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start doesn’t take a port donkey

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 9:19 AM

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DON'T CARE

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:19 AM

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that’s configured in the config

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 9:19 AM

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ok FINE

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data KryptonConfig = KryptonConfig { port :: Int }

startKryptonServer :: KryptonConfig -> IO Server

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HAPPY now huh????

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:20 AM

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much better

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but still not good enough

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haskell implementation of krypton when

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 9:22 AM

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Soon

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:23 AM

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oblique heath haskell implementation of krypton when

could make some Haskell bindings for the API that can generate Kotlin code

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:23 AM

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if I want to create my own programming language, should I learn and understood how other language systems work?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:24 AM

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I plan to make my own scripting language for it at some point anyway, but it’ll have the one up on Skript by generating code at compile time rather than interpreting it at runtime

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:25 AM

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tropic cypress if I want to create my own programming language, should I learn and understood h...

you need to know how compilers work

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:25 AM

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and tokenizers and all that jazz

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:25 AM

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well, not to design the language, but to make it actually run you need something that understands it

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:25 AM

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okay thanks

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:26 AM

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jovial warren I plan to make my own scripting language for it at some point anyway, but it’ll ...

JIT go brrrr

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:26 AM

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indeed

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you know bytecode is mostly interpreted though anyway

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:26 AM

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i mean anything that's not assembly is interpreted

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:27 AM

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JIT is used by HotSpot to compile sections of bytecode used very often to native code

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 9:27 AM

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tropic cypress if I want to create my own programming language, should I learn and understood h...

Hacking together a language is actually easy

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Stuff like ANTLR makes it even easier

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:27 AM

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yeah BM has experience

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:27 AM

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yet im still going to take multiple classes about it >:)

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y'all better watch out, I moved my Foundations of Computation Theory to next next semester

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:27 AM

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there's yacc and bison for parsing languages

tropic cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:27 AM

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prisma wave Hacking together a language is actually easy

I know nothing about programming 😄 I don't understand anyone here

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:27 AM

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so C* is coming soon

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 9:28 AM

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ah

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Yikes

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:28 AM

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ooh yeah might be a little rough to make a programming language when you've never even used one bfore

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:28 AM

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C—

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:28 AM

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oy

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 9:28 AM

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I mean it's definitely in the "Advanced" category

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 9:28 AM

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jovial warren C—

That already exists

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You'll never guess who made it

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:29 AM

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simon peython jones

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:29 AM

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C&

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C@

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 9:29 AM

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cinder flare simon peython jones

Yes

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Amazing gentleman

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:29 AM

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C%

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:29 AM

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wait really lol

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:29 AM

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C:

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C/

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lol

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 9:29 AM

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Yes

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Simon Peyton-Jones

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Made C--

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:29 AM

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my hero

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can't believe I guessed who made it lmao

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:30 AM

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C😃

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 9:31 AM

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cinder flare wait really lol

yeah but he released it under a different name

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Haskell lol

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:31 AM

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ah hakell

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nice

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 9:31 AM

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No

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They're not the same language

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:31 AM

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yo is there a sideways letter C

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:31 AM

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u

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:31 AM

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like 90 degrees counter-clockwise

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clockwise

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i mean

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 9:31 AM

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n

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:31 AM

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n

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:32 AM

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hmm

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so what if you named a language Δ

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maybe η

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:34 AM

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how would you pronouce it

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:34 AM

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long n

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or triangle

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:34 AM

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then people are just gonna write it out as triangle

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:35 AM

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maybe just tri

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that'd be cool

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what about λ

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oh wait that's already haskell

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haha

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χ look at that

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:36 AM

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"hey cool language, what's it called?"
"□"
"how did you just say that?"

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:36 AM

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that looks like an x but moved down

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:36 AM

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oblique heath "hey cool language, what's it called?" "□" "how did you just say that?"

he used the language of the gods

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okay what about μ*

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mustar

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mu-star

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for my lang name

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:36 AM

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starmyu

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:37 AM

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*μ

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:37 AM

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or whatever that pokemon is

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:37 AM

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staryu? lmao

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:37 AM

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oh i thought there was an m in there somewhere

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i don't know my pokemon 😔

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:38 AM

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what about Ξ

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3 horizontal lines

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:38 AM

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catchy

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:38 AM

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ξ

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that is the same letter

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but lowercase

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:38 AM

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i think you probably want to pick a name after you make the language

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:38 AM

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no no no

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the name is the most important part

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cause I can't make a lang right now

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but I can pick a name for one!

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:39 AM

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🥲

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:39 AM

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do you have any good ideas

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:39 AM

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i think cstar is your best choice right now

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:39 AM

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because I want to distance myself from C

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:39 AM

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or seastar

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hmm in that case

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:40 AM

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ι*

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γ*

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:41 AM

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you can call it sky

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if thats not a name already

heady birch Apr 26, 2021, 9:41 AM

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if you were going to get an Intel Nuc would you get the tall version or small one?

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:41 AM

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small one

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:41 AM

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https://is.cuni.cz/webapps/zzp/download/120024510/?lang=en#:~:text=Page 1-,Programming language Sky is functional programming language designed for distributed,interpreted by Sky virtual machine.

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https://github.com/sezna/sky

heady birch Apr 26, 2021, 9:41 AM

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small one - looks cool, tall one can fit an 2.5 drive or whatever

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:42 AM

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you can't add a drive to the small one?

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:42 AM

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okay but sky is actually a pretty solid name

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gimme more of that

heady birch Apr 26, 2021, 9:42 AM

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yeah but its m.2 or something, like a stick of ram but its an SSD

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NVMe I think?

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:42 AM

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lmao

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yes nvme

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:42 AM

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m.2 is the form factor

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NVME is how it works

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:43 AM

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it's in your best interest to use nvme over sata

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unless you're worried about cost

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:43 AM

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god I love PCI-E

heady birch Apr 26, 2021, 9:43 AM

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had no idea what NVMe was, is it just faster than sata?

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:43 AM

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yes

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:43 AM

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sata uses slow ass cables

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NVME uses PCI-E connectors

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:43 AM

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sata uses a controller

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:43 AM

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like your graphics card useds

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:43 AM

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nvme goes straight through pcie

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no controller = faster

heady birch Apr 26, 2021, 9:44 AM

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i need 4GB of PCIe

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lol

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 9:44 AM

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i have a small nuc and it fits a drive

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:44 AM

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why only 4

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:44 AM

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NVMe isn't significantly faster in all applications if you have a decent SATA ssd, but it's nice for sure

heady birch Apr 26, 2021, 9:44 AM

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I think there is a global shortage of them (intel nucs) or something

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:44 AM

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well if you need that little you can probably get a used nvme drive from a chromebook

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like a 16 or 64gb one

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 9:44 AM

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surely not ivan

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:44 AM

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lunar cypress NVMe isn't significantly faster in all applications if you have a decent SATA ss...

i have yet to see a case where it is slower

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 9:44 AM

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chromebook would probably have everything soldered on

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:44 AM

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I did not say it's slower

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:44 AM

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you think so?

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 9:44 AM

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read again

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 9:45 AM

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definitely ivan

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:45 AM

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hmmm

heady birch Apr 26, 2021, 9:45 AM

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basically a cheap, quiet and energy efficient homelab

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 9:45 AM

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why not a pi niall

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:45 AM

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in my experience the difference has been quite drastic but you are correct

heady birch Apr 26, 2021, 9:45 AM

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well I have one but they seem tempremental

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the sd cards like to fail

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 9:45 AM

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ah yeah

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:45 AM

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yes sd cards are literally paper fragile

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:45 AM

#

the pi 4 can boot from a sata drive

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 9:45 AM

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you have to get high quality sd cards

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:46 AM

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i had to reshoot a video I did 4 times because the SD cards kept failing

heady birch Apr 26, 2021, 9:46 AM

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yeah

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ive had some just completely die

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then some just dont boot but can still be mounted and I could recover the files

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:48 AM

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what's that new tech meant to replace sd card flash called

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i think newer phones are using it for storage already

heady birch Apr 26, 2021, 9:49 AM

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floppy disk!

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are floppy disks really reliable?

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just cant store more than 3Mb lol

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:50 AM

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i think floppy disks use magnetic disks like hdds do

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so no 😂

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:50 AM

#

okay what about

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starly

#

as a lang name

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 9:50 AM

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i haven't heard of anything like that ivan

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:50 AM

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pig what do you think of that

#

as the name of my new programming langauge

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 9:51 AM

#

what about

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:51 AM

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i'm fairly sure they use magnetized disks

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:51 AM

#

do you like it?

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 9:51 AM

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"programming language"

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:51 AM

#

do you have any suggestions?

#

yeah like elara but made by me

quiet depot Apr 26, 2021, 9:51 AM

#

ye

#

that's my suggestion

#

"programming language"

#

good name

#

straight to the point

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:51 AM

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hmmm

#

unhelpful

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:51 AM

#

piggy thats a little too vague

#

how about

#

"programming language by starmism"

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:52 AM

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grrrr

heady birch Apr 26, 2021, 9:52 AM

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why dont they build hard drives like floppy disks worked?

#

so you insert the disk instead of the whole drive & casing

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:52 AM

#

hot-swappable drives do exist

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:52 AM

#

because you don't want to expose the magnetic disk

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:52 AM

#

literally every blade server I've seen has them

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:53 AM

#

star he means replacing the drive platters

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instead of the entire drive

heady birch Apr 26, 2021, 9:53 AM

#

oh fair enough

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:53 AM

#

oh yeah no not good idea

#

you keep the casing so it stays strong (ish)

#

you can still kill 20 hard drives easy with a cart over a parking lot

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:54 AM

#

if they're running

#

they're relatively fine if you stop them

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:54 AM

#

well yeah the problem comes when that server needs 100% uptime 😉

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:54 AM

#

but if they're spinning and you jostle them, it won't end well

#

for a name

#

how about mascara

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:56 AM

#

bruh

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:56 AM

#

people use it to hide their bad talent

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with good looking code

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:56 AM

#

okay what about Stellar

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:56 AM

#

honestly this and your other name are both good

#

what do you want out of the name

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:57 AM

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i don't know, just a good vibe

#

and related to stars or outer space

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:57 AM

#

"optimus prime"

#

very good vibe

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:57 AM

#

haha

#

i definitely want one word

#

nice ring to it

#

moderately unique

#

i mean Starly has never been used for like anything

#

and Stellar is a payment platform, but that's about it

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:59 AM

#

corona

#

:)

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:59 AM

#

lmao I saw that

#

im looking at a list of 500 words related to star lol

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:59 AM

#

lmao

#

i guess i'll do the same

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 9:59 AM

#

one of them is a

#

https://i.imgur.com/awvJwcd.png

Imgur

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 10:00 AM

#

short, to the point

#

lowercase

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 10:00 AM

#

same vibe as C but a little too early

#

ooh damn maybe the lowercase vibe

#

stellar

#

mm yes

#

https://i.imgur.com/Ujso4br.png

Imgur

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 10:01 AM

#

og damn algol is apparently star related

#

it's the name of a star

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 10:01 AM

#

oh damn it's the head of the ogre

#

in a constellation

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 10:02 AM

#

you should call your language proof

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 10:02 AM

#

you have to write everything in the style of peer-reviewed mathematical proofs

#

fuck

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 10:03 AM

#

i was thinking it'd be like 100 proof

#

so you have to get drunk to use it

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 10:03 AM

#

ah I see

#

well I'm not even 21 yet

#

so it'd be kinda weird for me to make that lang hmm

distant sun Apr 26, 2021, 10:04 AM

#

@cinder flare stellar is already taken =/

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 10:04 AM

#

i mean, by a financial protocol

#

but not a lang, right?

distant sun Apr 26, 2021, 10:05 AM

#

I know there's a dev team called Stellar or something like that, that sells custom jars and plugins

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 10:05 AM

#

god fucking damnit

#

names are so hard

#

that's it, time to cry myself to sleep

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 10:05 AM

#

good name

#

"time to cry"

distant sun Apr 26, 2021, 10:05 AM

#

https://www.mc-market.org/threads/523827/

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 10:05 AM

#

reflexive

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 10:05 AM

#

sleep lmao

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 10:05 AM

#

another great candidate

#

how about seltzer

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 10:07 AM

#

how is that space related lmao

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 10:08 AM

#

it's not, just a random name lol

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 10:08 AM

#

hmmm

#

you were looking at that corona seltzer huh

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 10:08 AM

#

😳

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 10:08 AM

#

all right well, off to bed

placid rose Apr 26, 2021, 10:08 AM

#

bye

cinder flare Apr 26, 2021, 10:08 AM

#

@ me if anyone has anything so I see it tomorrow

#

oh bye

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 10:09 AM

#

bye

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 10:49 AM

#

those are some high res photos

old wyvern Apr 26, 2021, 10:51 AM

#

oblique heath those are some high res photos

ikr

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 11:03 AM

#

It exposes

distant sun Apr 26, 2021, 11:11 AM

#

https://www.tutorialspoint.com/how-to-exclude-a-field-from-json-using-expose-annotation-in-java#:~:text=The Gson %40Expose annotation can,the value true or false.

How to exclude a field from JSON using @Expose annotation in Java?

The Gson @Expose annotation can be used to mark a field to be exposed or not (included or not) for serialized or deserialized. The @Expose annotation can take t ...

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 11:13 AM

#

Use transient smh

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 11:31 AM

#

Hey guess what I just did in CS because I got bored

#

I got a Gradle script to run in repl.it lol

#

I actually built and ran Krypton on repl.it

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 11:32 AM

#

lmao

#

wait

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 11:32 AM

#

All thanks to the Gradle wrapper

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 11:33 AM

#

does that mean the repl.it has internet access

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 11:33 AM

#

Ofc it does

#

It supports Maven lol

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 11:33 AM

#

wtf

#

cant you just host stuff on it then

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 11:33 AM

#

Yes you can

#

It's more of a browser IDE than it is a repl site nowadays

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 11:34 AM

#

so in theory

#

i could make a bunch of accounts / projects / whatever and host discord bots or something there for free

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 11:35 AM

#

people do that

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 11:35 AM

#

huh

#

and they don't... mind?

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 11:35 AM

#

It's not very efficient but you can do that, yeah

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 11:35 AM

#

The only thing that stopped Krypton was the fact that it didn't have a world given to it

#

Obviously no way I can manually test Krypton in school though

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 11:36 AM

#

you probably cant test it anyways

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 11:36 AM

#

Tried running pitest but it kinda died lol

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 11:36 AM

#

internet is one thing, but i really doubt they'll have open ports to connect through

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 11:36 AM

#

Not what I meant

#

Testing Krypton manually requires a vanilla client

#

And these are school computers

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 11:37 AM

#

boot from a usb

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 11:37 AM

#

Yeah that won't work

#

They block all those sort of EXEs

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 11:37 AM

#

?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 11:37 AM

#

Same reason I can't use IJ in school

#

You can't download and run EXEs

#

It just says nope

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 11:38 AM

#

boot. from. a . usb?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 11:38 AM

#

BIOS is protected

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 11:38 AM

#

rounds up

#

always

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 11:38 AM

#

It forces rounding up

#

Standard rounding

#

So Math.ceil(5.1) = 6

#

But Math.round(5.1) = 5

distant sun Apr 26, 2021, 11:41 AM

#

ceil ⬆️ floor ⬇️ round ~ math way

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 11:41 AM

#

bardy how do you know the bios is protected

#

when i went to high school we also had a bunch of safeguards and the like

#

but i was still able to boot off of a usb

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 11:42 AM

#

Gaby

#

still waiting for the moodle bot :sadge:

distant sun Apr 26, 2021, 11:43 AM

#

I know you are but I have to edit some of it lol

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 11:43 AM

#

ah ok good, just wanted to make sure you didn't forget about me

distant sun Apr 26, 2021, 11:46 AM

#

bitewise and operator

#

yea idk how to answer that

#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitwise_operation

Bitwise operation

In computer programming, a bitwise operation operates on a bit string, a bit array or a binary numeral (considered as a bit string) at the level of its individual bits. It is a fast and simple action, basic to the higher level arithmetic operations and directly supported by the processor. Most bitwise operations are presented as two-operand inst...

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 12:03 PM

#

#827055634586271775 damn?

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 12:04 PM

#

lol that vision guy

old wyvern Apr 26, 2021, 12:04 PM

#

lmao

#

hybrid garbage collector & data collector software

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 12:06 PM

#

tbh they'll be better off asking somewhere like SO lol

#

and add a couple of 0's to that number

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 12:07 PM

#

I think we can safely say that vision is a satire acount

old wyvern Apr 26, 2021, 12:07 PM

#

lol

half harness Apr 26, 2021, 12:09 PM

#

lmao

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 12:20 PM

#

old wyvern `hybrid garbage collector & data collector software`

That is some high tier shitposting

#

$57000

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 12:22 PM

#

throwback to the 300k budget one :kek:

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 12:23 PM

#

https://i.imgur.com/3zWn4qe.png

Imgur

#

This is Jeff's father or something?

oak coyote Apr 26, 2021, 12:35 PM

#

I like the fact he has too many dms he should read but doesn’t want too so that isn’t an option for communication

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 12:38 PM

#

@oak coyote u ok? https://i.imgur.com/XcU4zNw.png

Imgur

oak coyote Apr 26, 2021, 12:39 PM

#

Shhh

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 12:39 PM

#

lol

oak coyote Apr 26, 2021, 12:39 PM

#

They are totally the same channel

half harness Apr 26, 2021, 12:39 PM

#

lol

#

bm r u there

#

bm

#

🥺

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 12:40 PM

#

BM please teach me the ways of clojure

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 12:41 PM

#

hot hull <#827055634586271775> damn?

lol

#

if you have a budget of $57,000 then you shouldn’t be asking for developers from a Discord server

half harness Apr 26, 2021, 12:44 PM

#

BM please teach me the ways of haskell

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 12:48 PM

#

obtuse gale BM please teach me the ways of clojure

Hello :)

oak raft Apr 26, 2021, 12:48 PM

#

how can I check if two arrays have the same numbers in them

#

is it as simple as ==?

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 12:48 PM

#

No

#

Arrays are objects

oak raft Apr 26, 2021, 12:49 PM

#

oh right

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 12:49 PM

#

So that will check for reference equality

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 12:49 PM

#

half harness BM please teach me the ways of haskell

Hello :)

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 12:49 PM

#

You'll want to use Arrays.equals

oak raft Apr 26, 2021, 12:49 PM

#

tysm

half harness Apr 26, 2021, 12:50 PM

#

prisma wave Hello :)

hi

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 12:50 PM

#

lunar cypress Hello :)

:))

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 12:54 PM

#

I’m having to explain to the 57k guy that he won’t find the quality of developer he should expect by asking here lol

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 12:54 PM

#

bardy you're missing out..

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 12:54 PM

#

?

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 12:54 PM

#

#off-topic

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 12:54 PM

#

I'm literally right here

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 12:54 PM

#

it's been going for a while

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 12:55 PM

#

ah

#

I really wanna turn this guy away from this server at that budget

#

because he won’t find the person he deserves here

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 12:56 PM

#

jovial warren because he won’t find the person he deserves here

dude

#

I'm literally here

oak coyote Apr 26, 2021, 12:56 PM

#

I'm beautiful how dare you

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 12:56 PM

#

We have many perfect candidates

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 12:57 PM

#

BM I highly doubt you’re worth 57,000 a year lol

#

get off your high horse mate and come back down to reality

oak raft Apr 26, 2021, 12:57 PM

#

nope

#

bm is the best

#

no doubt

#

have you forgotten about this bbg?

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 12:58 PM

#

jovial warren BM I highly doubt you’re worth 57,000 a year lol

Yeah I'm worth more tbh

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 12:59 PM

#

oak raft have you forgotten about this bbg?

This is the truth

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:02 PM

#

$10k/week thonking

pale shell Apr 26, 2021, 1:02 PM

#

oak raft have you forgotten about this bbg?

whats this??

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:03 PM

#

that's just people passing by BM

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 1:05 PM

#

yeah happens all the time

pale shell Apr 26, 2021, 1:06 PM

#

I don't get it thonking

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:08 PM

#

pale shell I don't get it <:thonking:379541184697204736>

Biggest shlong smh..

pale shell Apr 26, 2021, 1:09 PM

#

is there audio or something what gives context?

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:09 PM

#

pale shell is there audio or something what gives context?

Yes there is audio

#

its a video

pale shell Apr 26, 2021, 1:09 PM

#

I didn't watch it so

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:09 PM

#

oh lmao

#

you thought its a screenshot or smthing?

pale shell Apr 26, 2021, 1:09 PM

#

ye

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:09 PM

#

just watch it xD

#

https://i.imgur.com/AJwyXiy.png

Imgur

#

its good

#

but here this ss

#

should give you a bit of info

pale shell Apr 26, 2021, 1:10 PM

#

thonking

forest pecan Apr 26, 2021, 1:10 PM

#

static zealot https://i.imgur.com/AJwyXiy.png

💔

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:10 PM

#

forest pecan 💔

? 😢

forest pecan Apr 26, 2021, 1:10 PM

#

🥲

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:11 PM

#

🥲

#

oh no

#

I lost my smiling_face_with_3_tears

#

😭

#

well guess I'm stuck with Thank You Blitz! lmao

oak raft Apr 26, 2021, 1:21 PM

#

rip

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:22 PM

#

oak raft rip

I like it tho

#

and also its like that for a reason

oak raft Apr 26, 2021, 1:22 PM

#

Why

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:22 PM

#

wull show you later

oak raft Apr 26, 2021, 1:22 PM

#

alright

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:23 PM

#

https://imgur.com/gallery/AXRqZtU

Imgur

So many questions

▶ Play video

#

wtf happened here?

#

how did that pole get in the car?

#

did it grow? Or did the car jump and fell in it?

#

or tf

oak raft Apr 26, 2021, 1:24 PM

#

the car drove up a ramp and slammed down onto the pole

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 1:25 PM

#

the side of the marvel movies they don't want you to see

oak raft Apr 26, 2021, 1:25 PM

#

turns out the pole was stronger than the car and that happened 🙂

pale shell Apr 26, 2021, 1:26 PM

#

static zealot wtf happened here?

I happened

ocean quartz Apr 26, 2021, 1:29 PM

#

Barry doesn't seem to like Johnny, that's the second time it doesn't add the voting

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:30 PM

#

@oak raft here you go: https://imgur.com/a/a57KPgp

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 1:30 PM

#

I have it blocked, that's why

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:30 PM

#

its a galery Remence open the link

ocean quartz Apr 26, 2021, 1:31 PM

#

Ah okay that makes sense

oak raft Apr 26, 2021, 1:31 PM

#

so Sushid00 was the one to start it

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:31 PM

#

well no

#

there's more

#

I'm just to lazy

#

lmao

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:31 PM

#

lunar cypress I have it blocked, that's why

Why would you block barry? 😢

ocean quartz Apr 26, 2021, 1:32 PM

#

Blitz what is the command to ask Barry to add the voting?

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:32 PM

#

oak raft so Sushid00 was the one to start it

also there are a lot older ones in there than 14/04/2021

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:32 PM

#

ocean quartz Blitz what is the command to ask Barry to add the voting?

its a reaction :poll: but you can't do it in #showcase

ocean quartz Apr 26, 2021, 1:32 PM

#

Ah

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 1:32 PM

#

static zealot Why would you block barry? 😢

because it won't stop pinging me for things I don't care about

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:32 PM

#

bcz you can't add reactions

ocean quartz Apr 26, 2021, 1:32 PM

#

Sad

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:32 PM

#

lunar cypress because it won't stop pinging me for things I don't care about

what? It only pings for level up

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 1:32 PM

#

yes exactly

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:32 PM

#

and at the rate you talk its probably very rare

compact perchBOT Apr 26, 2021, 1:33 PM

#

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:33 PM

#

=xp 234343108773412864

compact perchBOT Apr 26, 2021, 1:33 PM

#

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 1:33 PM

#

30 pings dodged in a year

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:33 PM

#

lunar cypress 30 pings dodged in a year

Please get 69420

#

I beg you

#

I didn't get my 69 666,666 but you can get 69,420!!

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 1:34 PM

#

this is like the second time I've ever seen my xp

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:34 PM

#

oak raft so Sushid00 was the one to start it

Should I put that as my STATUS? xD

oak raft Apr 26, 2021, 1:34 PM

#

static zealot Should I put that as my STATUS? xD

YES!

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:36 PM

#

Internet is gone 😢

#

oh its back

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:36 PM

#

oak raft YES!

done. Thank You Blitz! 🙏

oak raft Apr 26, 2021, 1:37 PM

#

🙏

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:37 PM

#

😢 https://i.imgur.com/VOutLrS.png

Imgur

oak raft Apr 26, 2021, 1:37 PM

#

blessed

#

rippp

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:37 PM

#

@wheat spire can u ask me to delete another message and give me nitro for it? xD

#

😢 https://i.imgur.com/s1aEA50.png

Imgur

ocean quartz Apr 26, 2021, 1:42 PM

#

Free nitro? Sign me in

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 1:43 PM

#

it was last month for me xD

#

all I had to do is delete 2 messages and ping funnycube

compact perchBOT Apr 26, 2021, 2:57 PM

#

Help Menu:

Various Commands for Barry.

󠀠󠀠󠀠=Help General

• General Bot/Guild Commands

=Help Misc

• Miscellaneous Commands

=Help Level

• XP and Level Commands

=Reaction Help

• ChatReaction Help

oak cypressBOT Apr 26, 2021, 2:57 PM

#

@obtuse gale, Help menu!

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:01 PM

#

No

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:01 PM

#

BM how far have you progressed with PDM 2.0?

oak raft Apr 26, 2021, 3:01 PM

#

im here too 🙂

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:02 PM

#

I've been at school all day

half harness Apr 26, 2021, 3:02 PM

#

im here too 🙂

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:02 PM

#

Pas du tout

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:02 PM

#

oh yeah, didn't you stop last night

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:02 PM

#

half harness im here too 🙂

Haskell time?

oak raft Apr 26, 2021, 3:02 PM

#

prisma wave Pas du tout

es que vous francais?

half harness Apr 26, 2021, 3:02 PM

#

prisma wave Haskell time?

uhh gimme a few minutes maybe

oak raft Apr 26, 2021, 3:03 PM

#

prisma wave Haskell time?

qui qui

half harness Apr 26, 2021, 3:03 PM

#

Bonjour = only word i know

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:04 PM

#

oak raft es que vous francais?

Il est évident que tu n'es pas

#

but no

#

speak a bit tho

oak raft Apr 26, 2021, 3:04 PM

#

prisma wave Il est évident que tu n'es pas

||shhh they'll never know||

#

I dropped french in grade 10 🥲

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:04 PM

#

half harness uhh gimme a few minutes maybe

Yes

half harness Apr 26, 2021, 3:05 PM

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😔

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:06 PM

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What

frail glade Apr 26, 2021, 3:27 PM

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👋

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 3:27 PM

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hello mr. admin

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:34 PM

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hello glare

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come and join the fun in #off-topic

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this idiot thinks he can make a GCDC (garbage collector data collector) that hooks into SQL that's more optimised than HotSpot's GC

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:35 PM

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he can't

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I can

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:38 PM

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@lunar cypress https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452279708856614912/836240801956495380/plot.png what does this all mean btw?

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sorry, new to benchmarking lol

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:38 PM

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graphs

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:38 PM

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yeah I got that part BM

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:38 PM

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PCollections bad, Kotlin bad, clojure good

forest pecan Apr 26, 2021, 3:38 PM

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seems like performance for adding/removal/lookup on data structures

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 3:38 PM

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you don't know how to... read... graphs?

forest pecan Apr 26, 2021, 3:39 PM

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lol

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 3:39 PM

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forest pecan seems like performance for adding/removal/lookup on data structures

(less is better)^

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 3:39 PM

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charts?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:39 PM

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so PCollections sucks ass then

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and plain old Java triumphs?

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 3:39 PM

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Well, that is an oversimplification

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:39 PM

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I swear your results showed that Kotlin sucks ass

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 3:39 PM

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this data is already very simplified

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The collections kotlin does have aren't that bad

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:40 PM

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jovial warren I swear your results showed that Kotlin sucks ass

We don't need a benchmark to tell us that

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:40 PM

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also how tf can you benchmark additions and removals for immutable collections

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 3:40 PM

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Its vectors actually beat java ArrayLists as you can see

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:40 PM

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jovial warren also how tf can you benchmark additions and removals for immutable collections

Copying...?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:40 PM

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good point

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 3:41 PM

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Also, one thing you have to hand to PCollections: it is the only library whose list removal benchmark didn't produce horrendous results

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Hence why you don't see any others there

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:41 PM

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Oh I thought the others were too miniscule

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 3:42 PM

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Java took ~20 seconds, Clojure doesn't have indexed-based removal on vectors and Kotlin's didn't even terminate (well, it did for piggy, but it took > 200 seconds)

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:42 PM

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Yikes

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:42 PM

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I swear this takes like 4 hours to run

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 3:42 PM

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yes it does

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 3:42 PM

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yup

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:42 PM

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Clojure on top everywhere else tho

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 3:42 PM

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yo @hot hull why didn't you set up github actions for Tags?

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 3:42 PM

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took me exactly 3 hours 51min iirc

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:43 PM

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might just leave it in the background

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:43 PM

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I'd like to see the clojure haters argue with facts!

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:43 PM

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how exactly does JMH work btw?

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because I kinda wanna start using it for some stuff

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:43 PM

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Run stuff, record time

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Ez

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:43 PM

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more complicated than that though

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 3:43 PM

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static zealot yo <@!307160296714403851> why didn't you set up github actions for Tags?

effort?

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 3:43 PM

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prisma wave Clojure on top everywhere else tho

Clojure has the best persistent maps (except lookup) and its vectors are also pretty good, definitely

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 3:44 PM

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hot hull effort?

Ah. Was just amazed that you set up an entire ReadMe. Also I never set Actions so idk how easy it is to set up xD

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:44 PM

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I wonder how it compares to other languages

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:44 PM

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static zealot Ah. Was just amazed that you set up an entire ReadMe. Also I never set Actions s...

it's ez

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 3:44 PM

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Neither

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:44 PM

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Does Scala have persistent structures?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:44 PM

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it's all YAML

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 3:44 PM

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jovial warren it's ez

looks not that hard yeah

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from what I've seen in the past 2 minutes

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 3:44 PM

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I would conclude from this that Clojure and Kotlin are more or less on par though

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:44 PM

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https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton/blob/master/.github/workflows/test_build.yml this is the test build that Krypton uses ~~that I totally didn't steal from Adventure~~

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 3:44 PM

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At least in those categories

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Clojure also has a lot of data structures that kotlin doesn't provide

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queues and sorted sets/maps

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Idk how accurate any benchmark would be but it would be interesting to compare clojure to F#/Haskell

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Especially the latter is pretty important imo, but none of the others have them

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:45 PM

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And maybe elixir

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:46 PM

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prisma wave Idk how accurate any benchmark would be but it would be interesting to compare c...

I think the latter two being native may make that ever so slightly biased towards them

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also wouldn't be predictable

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:46 PM

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F# isn't entirely native

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Just like C# isn't

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:46 PM

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I guess you could see how they perform on different platforms

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 3:46 PM

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those benchmarks are really made for micro operations and therefore you can't change the entire environment and still expect to get comparable results

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:46 PM

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Yeah

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:47 PM

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I should do some Krypton benchmarking lol

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 3:47 PM

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no

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:47 PM

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The haskell compiler in particular does a crap ton of optimizations that clojure probably doesn't/can't too

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:47 PM

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also, ETA 2h lol

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Ryzen on top

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 3:47 PM

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To compare general performance you'd need to make a macro benchmark by implementing and stress testing the same application in two langs or something

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:47 PM

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Yeah

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Could be a cool exercise

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 3:48 PM

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And that would still be pretty vague, but that's what's done to compare web frameworks across langs

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 3:48 PM

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easy to set up they said 😢 https://i.imgur.com/sTlK6YV.png

Imgur

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:48 PM

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static zealot easy to set up they said 😢 https://i.imgur.com/sTlK6YV.png

show

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 3:48 PM

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gradle.yml

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cursed

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:48 PM

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show your config

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 3:48 PM

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its just the default :))))

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oh wait gradlew is the same thing as gradle ?

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or is gradlew just for kotlin gradle

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 3:49 PM

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no

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gradlew is the gradle wrapper

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it downloads and delegates to the gradle version specified in the project

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gradle is the global binary you may or may not have installed

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 3:50 PM

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oh there's a wiki page for all this shit. I should probably read

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:50 PM

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cabalw build

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:51 PM

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name: "Build"

on:
  push: {}

jobs:
  build:
    strategy:
      matrix:
        os: ["ubuntu-latest", "windows-latest"]
    runs-on: "${{ matrix.os }}"
    steps:
      - name: "checkout repository"
        uses: "actions/checkout@v2"
      - name: "setup jdk 11"
        uses: "actions/setup-java@v1"
        with:
          java-version: "11"
      - name: "build"
        run: "./gradlew build"
```ez

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 3:51 PM

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ebt build

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:51 PM

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so true

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:51 PM

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funny how I use actions for test builds and Jenkins for master builds

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 3:51 PM

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now that I think about it... I've set the target version as java 8 in gradle I think xD

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:51 PM

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mainly because Jenkins can archive your artifacts and shit

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but actions is better for just spawning up

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 3:52 PM

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yeah I did

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:52 PM

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used to use Travis with BardyBot, but actions on top

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 3:52 PM

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java-version: '11' would it be 8 or would it be 1.8 ?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:53 PM

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this is where the entire specification for this in the GitHub docs may come in handy lol

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 3:53 PM

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yeah the docs don't help

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:54 PM

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my ass

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 3:55 PM

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https://wiki.haskell.org/Merely_monadic

Merely monadic

gusty glen Apr 26, 2021, 3:56 PM

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how many times have you seen that many nested for and if loops

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ocean quartz Apr 26, 2021, 3:56 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/eyes-burning-my-eyes-spongebob-gif-5183364

Tenor

eyes

▶ Play video

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 3:56 PM

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gusty glen

too many times

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try both Blitz

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 3:59 PM

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jovial warren try both Blitz

found this https://github.com/actions/setup-java#Usage its 8 apparently

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:02 PM

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gj

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 4:03 PM

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jovial warren gj

name: Java CI with Gradle

on:
  push:
    branches: [ main ]
  pull_request:
    branches: [ main ]

jobs:
  build:

    runs-on: ubuntu-latest

    steps:
    - uses: actions/checkout@v2
    - name: Set up JDK 8
      uses: actions/setup-java@v2
      with:
        java-version: '8'
        distribution: 'adopt'
    - name: Grant execute permission for gradlew
      run: chmod +x gradlew
    - name: Build with Gradle
      run: ./gradlew build``` this the shit I have rn and its still failing

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:03 PM

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any error?

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 4:04 PM

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checking rn

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:04 PM

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also, make sure @ and + aren't misinterpreted as tokens

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 4:04 PM

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oh shit I think I found it

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:04 PM

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and other strange characters, like / or .

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this is why I always quote my string values

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you can't trust that YAML won't misinterpret it or complain about it

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e.g. it interprets NO as false, which actually caused a huge exploit in Ruby on Rails

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 4:05 PM

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nah the error is from the project itself. I might have not uploaded locale to github

scarlet garden Apr 26, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Hello, good morning, I am looking for a java programmer to make me a minecraft plugin, please answer me,

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 4:05 PM

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#827055635052888075 / #827055634586271775

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:06 PM

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actually nvm, it was the direct representations of objects that caused a bug in Ruby on Rails

boreal needle Apr 26, 2021, 4:08 PM

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is anyone good at naming stuff

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what do i call a thing that's a child node in a command tree

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 4:08 PM

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leaf

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or wait

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branch

steel heart Apr 26, 2021, 4:08 PM

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AbstractSubCommandNodeChildren

boreal needle Apr 26, 2021, 4:09 PM

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actually wait

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doesnt brigadier work like this

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can i just use brigadier

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does brigadier work in bukkit?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:10 PM

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yes

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well, it can

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https://github.com/lucko/commodore

GitHub

lucko/commodore

Utility for using Minecraft's 1.13 'brigadier' library in Bukkit plugins. - lucko/commodore

boreal needle Apr 26, 2021, 4:11 PM

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how did i not know that this existed

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i love it

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:12 PM

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chunkCache::class.java.getDeclaredMethod("cache").apply { isAccessible = true }(chunkCache)::class.java.simpleName talk about whack lol

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that allows me to retrieve the internal cache that backs my chunk cache lol

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just to see what it is

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reflection is fun 🥲

frail glade Apr 26, 2021, 4:13 PM

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So what's new with SlimJar today, Matt?

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 4:13 PM

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.javaClass

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:13 PM

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prisma wave .javaClass

ah yeah, that exists 🥲

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 4:14 PM

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imagine retaining types after compilation

ocean quartz Apr 26, 2021, 4:15 PM

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frail glade So what's new with SlimJar today, Matt?

Have yet to start working on it 🥲
Though can already map all dependencies into JSON and add to the jar, now we need to figure how to proxy the jars so we don't constantly get from central

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:17 PM

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Scripton soon™️ btw lol

frail glade Apr 26, 2021, 4:18 PM

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Can you not just have it grab from their initial repositories in the gradle build script?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:18 PM

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plugin TestPlugin {

    initialize {
        command TestCommand
    }
}

command TestCommand {

    exec reply(text("Hello World!"))
}
```*may or may not have just came up with that just now* lol

ocean quartz Apr 26, 2021, 4:21 PM

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frail glade Can you not just have it grab from their initial repositories in the gradle buil...

I can but it's not a good idea, since some will be from central and not a personal repository, so it needs to be proxied, at least that's what I was told
One annoying thing is that I need to check on every repository for the jar, gradle doesn't give me the direct link

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:21 PM

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me and BM still gotta come up with a solution to modules blocking reflection lol

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gotta tick these boxes:

performant
works out of the box
doesn't require any elaborate hacks

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 4:23 PM

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but pdm always does all of those !!!

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:23 PM

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not for modules

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 4:23 PM

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🙄

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:23 PM

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Java 9's modules give us an issue trying to use URL class loader reflection

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 4:23 PM

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p.s: it does 0 of those

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:24 PM

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maybe we can specialise and directly access the class loader of the plugin and load that way

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still gives us the issue of how we're going to access addURL though

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maybe we can process with annotations

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and just use jar in jar anyway

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e.g. ```java
@PDMInject
public class MyPlugin extends JavaPlugin {

public void onEnable() {
    // whatever lol
}

}

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or just @PDM maybe

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then the jar in jar class loader can load that class

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 4:28 PM

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yo @jovial warren but does the action thing only test if it can build? Bcz I can't seem to find a link to download the build or something like that

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 4:28 PM

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onyx loom p.s: it does 0 of those

Not true

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:28 PM

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wdym download the build?

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 4:28 PM

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(true)

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 4:29 PM

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prisma wave Not true

true

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:29 PM

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if you want to get the artifacts from the build, you have to publish them to packages

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 4:29 PM

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jovial warren well, it can

That doesn't work as a command framework, it's just for sending the tree to the client

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:29 PM

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true I guess

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dis why Krypton good Bukkit bad

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 4:30 PM

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@boreal needle check any of my repos if you wish to use brig as a cmd framework on Bukkit

boreal needle Apr 26, 2021, 4:30 PM

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ooh i will do

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i need that fancy syntax highlighting

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 4:31 PM

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Well for that there are two ways actually

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3

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:31 PM

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@prisma wave you got any ideas yet btw about how we can actually solve the modules issue?

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I mean, maybe a good idea to identify the actual problem first

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 4:31 PM

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monad

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:31 PM

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anyone got a record of the bug anywhere?

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 4:31 PM

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But the actual usage of brig as a cmd framework doesn't include the colorful tree sending thing

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 4:32 PM

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what bug

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:32 PM

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doesn't Java 16 break PDM?

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 4:32 PM

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oh maybe

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idk

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havent tried

ocean quartz Apr 26, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Monads should fix that

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:32 PM

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lemme try

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 4:33 PM

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yep

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 4:34 PM

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What doesn't break PDM :kek:

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 4:36 PM

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idk lmao

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:37 PM

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BM

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pdm latest version

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go

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Could not find paper-api-1.16.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar (com.destroystokyo.paper:paper-api:1.16.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:20210409.232303-163). why does this keep happening to me

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Gradle just doesn't like snapshots

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(it's right, that version doesn't exist, but it's picking the wrong one)

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idk what's up with my Gradle

ocean quartz Apr 26, 2021, 4:39 PM

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jovial warren `Could not find paper-api-1.16.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar (com.destroystokyo.paper:pape...

Why does this keep happening to me, I've made my mistakes! Got nowhere to run!

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:39 PM

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stfu that's not helpful Matt

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Bardy

ocean quartz Apr 26, 2021, 4:39 PM

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😦

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 4:39 PM

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that's an issue with latest IJ

#

I'm having the same shit

ocean quartz Apr 26, 2021, 4:40 PM

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Refresh cache

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@jovial warren

hot hull Apr 26, 2021, 4:41 PM

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wait what

#

Never knew that existed

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:45 PM

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me neither

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but it seemed to work

#

hey does anyone here know how I can take a list and add an element at the head instead of the tail?

#

this uses a linked list so that might actually be possible

#

addFirst, that'll be it

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 4:48 PM

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Ofc it's possible

#

Take new head, make a node, link node to previous head

#

O(1) adding clojuremoon

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 4:49 PM

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the benefits of using a linked list over an array list

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because using an array list would require me to move all of the elements up one I think

#

oh my god

#

well, I may or may not have just kinda solved block placing

#

those cubes? gone

#

issue was I wasn't checking to see if air was in the palette, so the only palette block being sent was sand and so the client assumed that all the data was for sand

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 5:07 PM

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speaking of which, I just watched another Algorithms lecture and realised I maybe should have benchmarked some more linked list operations

#

but then again most linked list magic is only possible with mutable ones

uneven vapor Apr 26, 2021, 5:09 PM

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Before you you has see how you made gui some can store items, you think is hard to make something working some can collect items.

But when you has see how is done, is it not to hard.
(I know this need more work, was more proof of concept).
https://paste.helpch.at/amohebuwik.java

half harness Apr 26, 2021, 5:12 PM

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bm

uneven vapor Apr 26, 2021, 5:22 PM

#

the most fun with that code, is it get reset after server restart (you have to save it to a database) 🙂 But use it as it is is and you can troll with your friends (if you have any left after this 😉 ).

prisma wave Apr 26, 2021, 5:23 PM

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half harness bm

?

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 5:26 PM

#

@boreal needle I got something a bit tidied up, nicer from what I have in my other projects (very platform agnostic too), see
https://github.com/Fefo6644/BetterJails/tree/main/common/src/main/java/com/github/fefo6644/betterjails/common/command
https://github.com/Fefo6644/BetterJails/tree/main/bukkit/src/main/java/com/github/fefo6644/betterjails/bukkit/command
@ or DM me if you have any questions 😄

As for the client syntax highlighting you will probably be way better off with lucko/commodore and, more specifically the commodore-file system, it's just super nice to write down the tree in a file like that and it works pretty darn well

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 5:27 PM

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obtuse gale <@!199036109760495616> I got something a bit tidied up, nicer from what I have i...

cc @forest pecan cuz 👀

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 5:34 PM

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@static zealot what u doing 👀

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 5:34 PM

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onyx loom <@!444552204158763016> what u doing 👀

Helping you ||stealing code||

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 5:34 PM

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😂

#

what do u need help with || what u stealing? ||

uneven vapor Apr 26, 2021, 5:35 PM

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ctrl +c and ctrl +v is a coder's best friend 😉

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 5:44 PM

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dont forget about stack overflow

#

ofc, the ctrl c + v comes from stack overflow

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 5:46 PM

#

Speaking of SO, I got an email today with a job offer in it (more of a suggestion, SO sends you offers employers post you might be interested in)

#

I was like "oh shit what will it be"

#

🥲

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 5:46 PM

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lmao

#

elara vm when @ fefo

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 5:47 PM

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uh tomorrow night

#

probs

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 5:47 PM

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ah nice

#

i shall check in with ur progress in that case 🙂

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 5:47 PM

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😄

boreal needle Apr 26, 2021, 5:58 PM

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i just made a rookie mistake

#

reset my laptop

#

without backing up any of my stuff

#

i lost my rhythm heaven fever save :c

oblique heath Apr 26, 2021, 6:06 PM

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📎 lolitdkim.file

#

i have a magical file

#

take the md5 hash of this file

#

and convert that from hex to base 64

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 6:19 PM

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boreal needle without backing up any of my stuff

Classic 🥲
CC @static zealot lul

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 6:19 PM

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don't remind me 😢

#

@onyx loom don't you like Single-expression functions? 🥲

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 6:20 PM

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no

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 6:21 PM

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why? 😢

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 6:21 PM

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brace everything!

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 6:21 PM

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no! 😢

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 6:21 PM

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i would only use expression functions if i was using k&r

#

they just look extremely out of place in an allman project imo

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 6:24 PM

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btw you never got problems with Adventure and PAPI? Specifically PAPI's color translater breaking hex?

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 6:25 PM

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dont think so no

#

i only did minor tests

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 6:26 PM

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I remember Codinq having some major problems with that but Idk if they use Adventure or what

#

with hex I mean

#

Does Adventure even have gradients ?

#

Or are those only added with MiniMessages

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 6:27 PM

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no i think thats more for the libs

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yeah prob

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Gradients are in minimessage parsing, yes

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 6:30 PM

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mf-msg tho

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hello

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 6:30 PM

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xD

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Its cool and all but I personally don't like the discord parser. I prefer the vanilla one

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 6:31 PM

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how brave of u to say that

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 6:31 PM

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"vanilla"..?

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 6:31 PM

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the default one idk how to call it

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the &l

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&m

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&n

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 6:31 PM

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Oh

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Ew

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Ew

static zealot Apr 26, 2021, 6:31 PM

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xD

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 6:31 PM

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B.A.A.S - Don't Repeat Yourself!
You're sending too many duplicate messages.
Barry's Anti Abuse System | v1.4.4

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 6:31 PM

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Don't worry Kali

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I won't

onyx loom Apr 26, 2021, 6:31 PM

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good 😊

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 6:36 PM

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https://paste.helpch.at/xarawaqahe.java okay someone please explain why Java is complaining at line 23 and line 33 here

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(vanilla server code)

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fillOne and fillMany want T and they're getting capture of ? extends Tag, and they also want CollectionTag<T> and they're getting CollectionTag<capture of ? extends Tag>

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 6:44 PM

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Why the wildcard?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 6:45 PM

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well idk what else I could do

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 6:45 PM

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Just.. don't do wildcards?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 6:45 PM

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I tried CollectionTag<Tag>

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 6:45 PM

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CollectionTag<Tag>?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 6:45 PM

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doesn't work

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 6:45 PM

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extends = out = "producer"

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 6:45 PM

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elaborate

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 6:45 PM

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You can't add to a producer

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 6:46 PM

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private static CollectionTag<? extends Tag> createGenericList(byte param_0, byte param_1) {
    if (NbtOps.typesMatch(param_0, param_1, (byte)4)) {
        return new LongArrayTag(new long[0]);
    }
    if (NbtOps.typesMatch(param_0, param_1, (byte)1)) {
        return new ByteArrayTag(new byte[0]);
    }
    if (NbtOps.typesMatch(param_0, param_1, (byte)3)) {
        return new IntArrayTag(new int[0]);
    }
    return new ListTag();
}

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used to return CollectionTag<?>

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and returning CollectionTag<Tag> doesn't work either because of the return types

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because for example, LongArrayTag extends CollectionTag<LongTag>

lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 6:48 PM

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Yeah ok, but I'm not talking about that

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Hold on

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 6:48 PM

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I'm saying that's the reason why we can't have var_0 be a CollectionTag<Tag>

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 6:49 PM

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Why can't you make it return CollectionTag<Tag>?

jovial warren Apr 26, 2021, 6:49 PM

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jovial warren because for example, `LongArrayTag` extends `CollectionTag<LongTag>`

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lunar cypress Apr 26, 2021, 6:49 PM

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Because the things he returns aren't a sub type of that

obtuse gale Apr 26, 2021, 6:49 PM

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It's still a Tag