I assume so
#dev-general
quiet depot
was enroute to land in vancouver
old wyvern
ik what it is kali xD we had a section about it in a class, I just wanted to know if it was visible at all times
old wyvern
was enroute to land in vancouver
Wheres vancouver btw?
quiet depot
Some of these particles precipitate into the lower atmosphere continuously, and the aurorae are thus normally present at all times, although they may not always be visible (due to limited intensity and the obscuring effect of daylight).
old wyvern
europe?
quiet depot
canada lol
feral kiln
lol
ocean quartz
But the earth is flat?!?!
old wyvern
^^^!!!
onyx loom
🌚
feral kiln
But the earth is flat?!?!
yep
onyx loom
ik what it is kali xD we had a section about it in a class, I just wanted to kno...
always good to revise 🌚
i never knew fully how it works myself, just knew it was smth to do with magnetic fields
feral kiln
But the earth is flat?!?!
and dinosaur got tossed away when the earth got hit by astroid LOL
quiet depot
https://tenor.com/view/flat-earth-flat-earth-flache-erde-conspiracy-gif-15585011
idk about that one chief
that area of lighting looks a bit small
old wyvern
🥲
quiet depot
yugi do you get sunsets where you live?
quiet depot
well if you live on the east coast of a country, you can't see the sunet
ocean quartz
quiet depot
if you leave on the west coast, you can't see a sunrise
feral kiln
i guess you are the right person
quiet depot
wat
old wyvern
I meant at the horizon
feral kiln
Not sure about sunrise, but can def see sunset
wtf
old wyvern
xD
onyx loom
yugi stroke
old wyvern
Uh
forest pecan
draw one
old wyvern
Fix what?
onyx loom
😂
quiet depot
ah okie
old wyvern
Not sure about sunrise, but can def see sunset
There we go
quiet depot
do sunsets look the same area?
onyx loom
wake up at 5am in the morning and find out for us please yugi 🙂
quiet depot
everyone here always talks about "beautiful sunsets" like they don't look the same elsewhere
old wyvern
Lemme see if I have a photo on my phone
quiet depot
this is the kind of sunset I get where I live
hot hull
Fairly simplistic but I like, just need to make the images same size somehow https://github.com/Frcsty
old wyvern
Wow
forest pecan
i would post a picture but it has my face in it
old wyvern
That looks much much better
quiet depot
it doesn't always look like that
ocean quartz
I like it Frosty
quiet depot
but it's definitely not uncommon to look like that
hot hull
this is the kind of sunset I get where I live
Oh damn that's beautiful
hot hull
I like it Frosty
need to add some more context for op65n organization in it, might be even nicer then
steel heart
Pig lives in paradise :0
quiet depot
yeah
ours never looks like that
we always get red in the sky like in the pic before
hot hull
Pig lives in paradise :0
If you count out the spiders and all the other creatures wanting to devour you yes
forest pecan
I think I've seen Conclure's face before.
but he seen mine
so equal trade
lol
he changed his instagram pfp tho
to his dog
onyx loom
classic
pig, that sunset 😳
so much good in the world and most of us here have probably never seen anything like it 😔
forest pecan
cause its australia
onyx loom
speaking in general too
ocean quartz
the spiders can be stepped on
If you see them
prisma wave
Wait are we posting pictures of where we live
quiet depot
quick horror story:
I walked outside the other night to get something from the outside fridge, no shoes. As I was walking along, I felt something under my foot, and it stuck. "I swear to god if it's a fucking spider". Didn't actually expect it to legitimately be one, expected it to just be maybe some plant matter or something, so just kept walking along, then scraped it off once I got inside the shed, squatted down, and there it was, a tiny little furry fuck of a spider.
onyx loom
das cool
prisma wave
very cool
quiet depot
how do you live in a place like that and have guys that'll shank you on the bus
that's my thought
prisma wave
lmao
quiet depot
looks too posh for shit like that
onyx loom
quick horror story:
I walked outside the other night to get something from the o...
nice 😂
kill the fuckers
onyx loom
how do you live in a place like that and have guys that'll shank you on the bus
thatll be london, liverpool and birmingham sir
quiet depot
nothing a drop kick can't fix bm
prisma wave
lol
ocean quartz
Manchester 🌚
prisma wave
Tempting
onyx loom
ah how could i forget manchester
quiet depot
my scottish engineering teacher threatens us with drop kicks daily
onyx loom
altho i dont think its as bad as liverpool, birmingham
quiet depot
literally 120kg
onyx loom
lmao
quiet depot
basically eddie hall but short
onyx loom
gym lad
ocean quartz
London was pretty chill when I went there, but then again i only stayed for 2 days xD
quiet depot
that's the thing
he's only got one lung
he can't go to the gym
yet he's huge
it's not fat either
quiet depot
yeah ig
boreal needle
does anyone have any weird/old format javadocs they can throw at me
ocean quartz
Oh god
prisma wave
maven 2 
ocean quartz
Is that Java 6 docs or something?
boreal needle
im trying to write a web scraper for the fun of it
quiet depot
older I think matt
boreal needle
this is bloody hard
ocean quartz
Damn
boreal needle
yes i have
quiet depot
docdex supports all versions of javadocs above the one spigot 1.5 uses
obtuse gale
Pig has every javadoc that's ever existed
boreal needle
github stalking time :D
ocean quartz
Actually it seems to be 6 https://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/
old wyvern
old wyvern
I coud only find this piggy
quiet depot
that doesn't look too bad yugi
onyx loom
nice
boreal needle
how the hell does this thing work piggy
old wyvern
Thats not from here
boreal needle
where should i look
old wyvern
Thats from India
quiet depot
that's pretty similar to one we'd get here on average
old wyvern
at my uni
quiet depot
lucyy docdex is a very complicated project
but
app/.../documentation/index/.../popuators
something like that
boreal needle
ah alright thanks
quiet depot
look for a file called WebCrawlPopulator
that's where the magic starts
and before you judge me
would like to go back to the
"scraping isn't the hard bit, making it clean is"
obtuse gale
Lol
prisma wave
pretty
quiet depot
bm did u see the one I posted earlier?
obtuse gale
youve seen what my code is like
And you got the role 
quiet depot
I think of myself more like a machine learning algorithm rather than knowing what i'm doing
from trial and error I've discovered what works
boreal needle
oooooh idea
pale shell
@old wyvern os? #showcase message
boreal needle
i was kinda hoping to use js for this but i can switch
prisma wave
bm did u see the one I posted earlier?
oh my god
quiet depot
I didn't go that route though because not all javadocs are attainable from source
prisma wave
no way that's real
quiet depot
that pic isn't mine
from google images
but I've seen loads of sunsets like that here
they're relatively common
old wyvern
<@!235475470806679554> os? https://discord.com/channels/164280494874165248/45227...
Yes
prisma wave
that is amazing
pale shell
sunset?
prisma wave
<@!235475470806679554> os? https://discord.com/channels/164280494874165248/45227...
Guess what language
pale shell
java
old wyvern
😌
quiet depot
vancouver is beautiful in an entirely different way
pale shell
had ?
onyx loom
yes !
quiet depot
well
the city itself aint beautiful by any means
but the nature is fucking awesome in that area
and the city don't look too bad if you look at it from afar
onyx loom
absolutely
pale shell
i got a question for ya'll
ocean quartz
Huh i guess there are some pretty sunset images on google from where I live
onyx loom
😳
prisma wave
https://github.com/Vshnv/hasklash/tree/rewrite
100% Haskell 😌
onyx loom
when we going portugal guys
old wyvern
100% Haskell 😌
😌
pale shell
wtf is up with this overrated language of haskell
old wyvern
Underrated*
quiet depot
kaliber we don't really have mountains where I live
so canada for me was a huge shock
pale shell
over*
onyx loom
lmao
pale shell
piggy whats it like for you
quiet depot
when, where
pale shell
like where you live
ocean quartz
This one is also nice, shows the cliffs a bit more
pale shell
is it a city or wut
onyx loom
o wtf
quiet depot
I live in the greater metropolitan area of perth
onyx loom
dahek happened to those cliffs 
ocean quartz
Erosion
quiet depot
perth is a relatively small cbd
but the entire city of perth is like the biggest city in the world
size wise
population definitely not
onyx loom
wow, congrats on passing ur geography test matt 🌚
ocean quartz
Lmao
pale shell
so you live bottom left?
quiet depot
yes
prisma wave
Not my picture but this is pretty close to where I live
ocean quartz
Do you mean where they are in the first pic I sent? A bit to the left
obtuse gale
Not my picture but this is pretty close to where I live
Photoshop 100
pale shell
bm did i tell you btw
obtuse gale
This one is also nice, shows the cliffs a bit more
Photoshop 200
prisma wave
Photoshop 100
might be, hard to tell with random google images
pale shell
I'm gonna be moving from UK 😄
ocean quartz
@onyx loom the left side of the first image is where the cliffs start
prisma wave
To where
prisma wave
Yikes
pale shell
It's my life
quiet depot
go up north i rekon
onyx loom
thats super cool matt
quiet depot
so u can go to canada too
pale shell
quiet depot
well that looks like florida
quiet depot
very far away from my suggestion
onyx loom
florida 🤣
ocean quartz
Lmao
onyx loom
boys
prisma wave
hey guys romanticism here
prisma wave
🥲
quiet depot
I'd love to move to canada
onyx loom
actually thats just 1 car, the other car has a different number plate
soooo u wanna go florida
hot hull
Finished the design now, I think it looks aight
quiet depot
link
hot hull
prisma wave
come to isle of wight
pale shell
i been
pale shell
It was boring.
prisma wave
no it wasnt
prisma wave
exactly
pale shell
where's your local John Lewis then bm
pale shell
exactly
prisma wave
overrated
pale shell
no
prisma wave
actually we might have one
pale shell
no you don't
prisma wave
no nvm
pale shell
Hey bm, gonna go to the Isle of Wight University?
prisma wave
pale shell
bm, can you climb a mountain locally?
prisma wave
issues bad
pale shell
look at that arrow at the top lol
prisma wave
bm, can you climb a mountain locally?
theres a big hill that's almost a mountain
hot hull
That only counts publci repo commits
pale shell
but it doesn't classify as a mountin tho
old wyvern
It counts private as well frost
prisma wave
it's close enough
hot hull
It doesn't Yugi
hot hull
I've been at 500 for over a year
old wyvern
Ah
quiet depot
yes it does frosty, you've set it to be "include_all_commits"
old wyvern
Rip
quiet depot
if it's not counting them then you need to enable it in github settings
hot hull
If it only does master then that'd make sense
onyx loom
cant get any issues if ur code is perfect 🌚
pale shell
bm isle of weight is on a list for the worst places to live in uk
prisma wave
bm isle of weight is on a list for the worst places to live in uk
what
ocean quartz
How do you have total commits? Mine is only 2021
prisma wave
yorkshire 🤢
pale shell
suprised my city isn't on the worst
ocean quartz
Ah found it
onyx loom
checked another website, i wasnt even in top 50 somehow, lol
ocean quartz
I need to be more active on GH
prisma wave
satisfaction here is 35/35
pale shell
proof
hot hull
I mean most of my branches are named development
prisma wave
100/100 many would say
quiet depot
bm what de do u use?
pale shell
de
quiet depot
desktop environment
pale shell
i3?
quiet depot
plasma is almost wayland ready
pale shell
how many pc's you got bm
quiet depot
people think it's gonna be ready this year
prisma wave
how many pc's you got bm
2
pale shell
why
prisma wave
2 houses
quiet depot
2 is a good number
pale shell
but eclipse only needs 1 pc
hot hull
I have 3
prisma wave
plasma is almost wayland ready
That's good, once nvidia drivers work it should be pretty much perfect
hot hull
If you count the ones from 1970's
quiet depot
I have 1 permanent pc at home, and my laptop which I use for travel & school
hot hull
:))
quiet depot
nah bm there's a bunch of other breaking bugs they have to fix
nvidia is on that list
forest pecan
how many commits
quiet depot
wat pulse
prisma wave
nvidia is the biggest thing surely
quiet depot
I just want to switch to wayland because someone told me it'll be possible to move my notifications to my right monitor with it
forest pecan
gh
prisma wave
and then other apps can slowly add compatibility
prisma wave
ah rip
only issue with wayland so far seems to be jetbrains apps requiring a environment variable to be set
and also you cant drag and drop channels/servers in discord which is a bit weird
jovial warren
hey anyone here know how easy it is to make a custom scripting language?
I'm working on something and came up with the idea, but I've never done this sort of parsing before
prisma wave
ehh
im not gonna say it's "easy"
but it's not "hard"
the hard bit would be designing it well
jovial warren
all I want is something that can parse something as simple as ```
accessor Unsafe {
field theUnsafe
method getUnsafe()
}
You making Skripton?
prisma wave
what
jovial warren
You making Skripton?
no lol
prisma wave
"accessor"?
prisma wave
i dont understand what that language is doing
jovial warren
it declares a new accessor, which is used to access a specific class' fields and methods
hot hull
You making Skripton?
I hope you break a kneecap
ocean quartz
Same
jovial warren
idk what I should turn it into yet
yeah maybe it is markup
whatever
could make it do compiler code generation 🥲
prisma wave
what would that generate
jovial warren
well the current system I have now is ```kotlin
@Accessor(Unsafe::class)
object UnsafeAccessor {
@JvmField
@Field("theUnsafe")
var instance: Unsafe? = null
}
Why
jovial warren
which is kinda ugly ik, I'll work on improving it later lol
jovial warren
why what
prisma wave
why does this even exist
old wyvern
What is this for?
old wyvern
lol
jovial warren
also got fed up of messy reflection in Krypton's tests
old wyvern
I mean go for it if you want to ig
prisma wave
code generation for 3 lines of reflection 🤨
old wyvern
If you want something easy try a recursive descent parser
jovial warren
what about if you were reflectively accessing many methods and fields BM
prisma wave
then make a reflection utility
jovial warren
You could probably set up a dsl
yeah maybe that's a better idea
old wyvern
I mean
prisma wave
fun getMethod(clazz, name, signature) = clazz.getMethod(name, signature).apply { isAccessible = true }
``` that was hardhttps://paste.helpch.at/ajukoqecos.rb this is the entire code rn lol
prisma wave
what
old wyvern
reflection {
on<Human> {
val name = bind("name")
val human = ....
human.name()
}
}
I was thinking more along the lines of ```kotlin
accessor<Unsafe> {
field("theUnsafe") {
// do things
}
method("getUnsafe") {
// do other things
}
}
sure
prisma wave
maybe
quiet depot
just need you to send a message in the next 10 seconds
prisma wave
ok
old wyvern
Sure
quiet depot
finally managed to get my notifications on my right monitor
old wyvern
Oh
prisma wave
nicee
jovial warren
when you finally realise that you've basically spent your entire weekend on refactoring and unit tests 🥲
gusty glen
time to refactor my first (or second, I can't remember) plugin called MobStatusChange
gusty glen
it's a nice plugin, but the code, oooh, so many statics, I'll yeet them all
jovial warren
and that was a couple of days ago
gusty glen
arrowing intensifies 😨
jovial warren
lol
kinda stuck on what to do with Krypton rn tbh
placing is just kinda fucked
and I've just spent like the last 3-4 days on unit tests and refactoring
forest pecan
theres a ton of stuff to do
old wyvern
I like how theres like 5 conversations going on here concurrently, each with a single participant
jovial warren
it's 6 PM and I'm kinda falling asleep at my desk rn lol
gusty glen
Krypton is a thing?
jovial warren
wdym it's a thing?
gusty glen
Are u guys making the async server for real?
jovial warren
I've been working on Krypton for over two months
gusty glen
no way
jovial warren
forest pecan
Alright imma be honest here. Idk if anything written in Kotlin is going to be optimized or fast lmao
gusty glen
Nobody told me 😦
jovial warren
the "made it work" commit came out on like the 12th Feb
old wyvern
Alright imma be honest here. Idk if anything written in Kotlin is going to be op...
I hope you're being sarcastic
jovial warren
13th Feb
forest pecan
I hope you're being sarcastic
kinda am and kinda not
old wyvern
wdym
jovial warren
Alright imma be honest here. Idk if anything written in Kotlin is going to be op...
depends on what it is tbh
forest pecan
Yeah
jovial warren
certain things just get fucked up by the compiler
jovial warren
Nobody told me 😦
surprised you haven't noticed in here
old wyvern
I dont think anything ends up with bad performance specifically
jovial warren
since I've spoke about it quite a lot
old wyvern
If anything it unfolds stuff into more performant bytecode
jovial warren
gusty glen
since I've spoke about it quite a lot
I am too excited for it lol! I want to ask you a lot of things!
jovial warren
go for it
old wyvern
"Does it work?"
forest pecan
Yeah no. Kotlin is always going to be just as fast as Java. the only thing that's going to make it faster is just inlining
but you can just do that in Java manually anyways
old wyvern
Kotlin actually does inline a lot of stuff that you wouldnt expect it to
jovial warren
some things work fine, some things are somewhat bugged, some things are completely fucked (block placing) and some things are just not implemented at all
jovial warren
Yeah no. Kotlin is always going to be just as fast as Java. the only thing that'...
not actually always true
there are some things that can perform worse in Kotlin
old wyvern
like?
forest pecan
I didn't want to say that to upset Yugi
gusty glen
what kind of improvements did you already implemented and plan to implement soon™️, specially regarding async processing?
forest pecan
lmao
jovial warren
I believe bit shifts may be one of them, unless the compiler actually turns those into Java operators
old wyvern
Ofc the compiler does
jovial warren
what kind of improvements did you already implemented and plan to implement soon...
async processing? like what kind?
all packets are handled async by Netty
old wyvern
Kotlin only lacks the actual bitwise operators in the language
jovial warren
all commands execute async
quiet depot
1 minute build time efe
old wyvern
It writes the proper bytecode for the opcodes
quiet depot
yikes
gusty glen
well, think in a thing that is processed sync in paper, yes, it can be that thing
jovial warren
events are fired sync, but not on the main thread sync, just synchronous as in with everything else
prisma wave
imagine having b*tecode 🤢
old wyvern
😌
jovial warren
the main thread does pretty much nothing
old wyvern
Couldnt be haskell
jovial warren
ticking is done on the tick scheduler, packets are handled by Netty, etc.
forest pecan
Bytecode feels dumb cause its like a barrier in between assembly and normal java code
lol
quiet depot
i don't like that analogy
jovial warren
might actually do another player benchmark now, thinking about it
old wyvern
Write once, run everywhere!
forest pecan
i actually wouldn't consider it as a barrier tho
prisma wave
If your bytecode isn't the lambda calculus you're doing something wrong
quiet depot
bytecode is more comparable to an interpreted language
quiet depot
but it can be interpreted much faster due to strictness
old wyvern
JIT isnt an interpretter right?
gusty glen
ticking is done on the tick scheduler, packets are handled by Netty, etc.
this is not what I thought it would be, I'll study your code later and (if I understand it) I may start making some PR to convert more things into async processing. But for now, I wanted to tell you a idea I had
jovial warren
actually, thinking of benchmarks, I wonder if I could benchmark load performance with JMH by using Netty's EmbeddedChannel to send and receive data
jovial warren
JIT compiles it to native at runtime, yes
prisma wave
I think it's kinda both
old wyvern
My prof also said java is "Interpretted" once
ocean quartz
Yeah no. Kotlin is always going to be just as fast as Java. the only thing that'...
Kotlin actually beats Java in some things because of their optimization, but loses on some, but 99% of the time is the same performance
However coroutines can make a huge difference for a server
For example Ktor is extremely fast
quiet depot
java isn't interpreted
jovial warren
it goes: source code --javac--> bytecode --JIT--> native code on-demand
quiet depot
java is compiled
old wyvern
mhm
jovial warren
it's kinda both
jovial warren
yeah
quiet depot
ok so ig the difference is that while other interpreters run more like emulators, the jvm actually compiles the bytecode to native instructions?
gusty glen
copying and pasting from another discord
old wyvern
Yea
jovial warren
one lock for each block is gonna come with at least some performance costs
and it won't scale well at all
a lock per chunk is kinda what is done in both vanilla and in Krypton
gusty glen
jovial warren
also, locking and unlocking is a decently costly process iirc, since it has to check if any threads currently hold the lock first on locking
gusty glen
not really, with coroutines it's different
jovial warren
and as I said, a lock per block won't scale
coroutines aren't magic, they don't each have their own locks
gusty glen
and as I said, a lock per block won't scale
how about a lock per chunk?
jovial warren
on the JVM, they're backed by threads
jovial warren
how about a lock per chunk?
kinda what we and vanilla already do
actually I don't, vanilla does though
or, it has a lock per chunk section
old wyvern
oh wait @quiet depot , so from this article (https://julio-falbo.medium.com/understand-jvm-and-jit-compiler-part-1-a94c27d32478), its supposed to interpret most of the time, and compile to native bytecode the parts that are ran frequently
quiet depot
ic
old wyvern
also, locking and unlocking is a decently costly process iirc, since it has to c...
Theres no real checking process with other threads afaik, its controlled by a semaphore
jovial warren
Theres no real checking process with other threads afaik, its controlled by a se...
ah
old wyvern
That is atleast what we were taught in case of C, not sure if Java does anything slightly different
Probably not
its supposed to be part of how the os works
gusty glen
I launched 100K coroutines at the same time and my CPU usage was around 40%
jovial warren
I launched 100K coroutines at the same time and my CPU usage was around 40%
yeah that's because you can do that with coroutines
they are backed by threads anyway
jovial warren
the whole point of coroutines is that you can run many subroutines sequentially and the dispatcher can switch context with very minimal overhead
coroutines aren't necessarily concurrent
you can test if they are sequential by using a custom single threaded scope with a counter
old wyvern
runBlocking
prisma wave
gusty glen
still, don't you think the idea has potential?
old wyvern
https://hackage.haskell.org/package/monad-coroutine-0.9.1/docs/Control-Monad-Cor...
😌
Haskell always on top
jovial warren
also, we already use coroutines anyway
prisma wave
Haskell always on top
always
old wyvern
Its adds onto the current thread api apparently to make it easy to use
Its different from kotlin coroutines probably piggy
quiet depot
I never found the current thread api hard to use
people always be complaining about concurrency being difficult in java
prisma wave
coroutines arent threads
prisma wave
different use case
old wyvern
Multiple virtual threads can run on a single OS thread
jovial warren
i don't understand coroutines
right, shall I explain?
quiet depot
no
prisma wave
lol
old wyvern
xD
onyx loom
🤡
old wyvern
oh btw piggy, if you wanted to test out project loom at sometime, theres a dev build already out I think
quiet depot
okie
jovial warren
basically, they are subroutines that can be easily executed from different contexts, and they work well because the dispatcher can switch contexts with next to no overhead
jovial warren
👀
prisma wave
maybe 18 or 19
quiet depot
bardy that sounds like an api I saw in java a while ago
old wyvern
prisma wave
oh maybe then
quiet depot
sout("this is running on main")
async()
sout("this is on another thread")
sync()
sout("this is on main again")```yeah but you need to remember that the dispatcher isn't necessarily switching threads, it's switching contexts
they are completely different things
obtuse gale
I mean the current build of Valhalla is based "on an incomplete build of JDK 14" if I'm not mistaken
old wyvern
Oh really? welp
prisma wave
project lambda
old wyvern
Damn
old wyvern
project lambda
😮
obtuse gale
Look would be great
jovial warren
a single dispatcher can switch between many different contexts (basically glorified thread pools on the JVM) with pretty much 0 overhead
obtuse gale
Loom*
jovial warren
no
jovial warren
noob
onyx loom
assassins creed lol
jovial warren
lol
frail glade
Oooh
jovial warren
valhalla the generic specialisation proposal
prisma wave
weave :: forall s1 s2 s3 m x y z. (Monad m, Functor s1, Functor s2, Functor s3) => PairBinder m -> WeaveStepper s1 s2 s3 m x y z -> Weaver s1 s2 s3 m x y z
"Haskell is confusing" 🙄
quiet depot
and value types bardy
jovial warren
and that
quiet depot
can't forget the value types
obtuse gale
Generic specialization 🤤
frail glade
Kotlin release 1.5 yet?
jovial warren
it could allow you to use primitive types in generics
frail glade
Oop nvm they didn't
ocean quartz
Not yet
frail glade
Ahh it's in RC
onyx loom
soon 😌
old wyvern
Would that generate classes for generics fef?
ocean quartz
New compiler :pog:
frail glade
Would be kinda cool if like SlimJar and Kotlin 1.5 released at the same time.
jovial warren
e.g. List<int>
prisma wave
RIDICULOUS
old wyvern
😮
ocean quartz
SlimJar might be released before
prisma wave
pdm update will be released before slimjar
onyx loom
oh yeah?
old wyvern
😮
ocean quartz
pdm update will be released before slimjar
Do it
onyx loom
whats the update gonna be? Update README.md? :kekw:
old wyvern
SlimJar will defeat the pdm tyrrants
obtuse gale
Would that generate classes for generics fef?
Probably, I don't see how else it would differentiate between the specialization from the "generic template"
jovial warren
through value types, Valhalla aims to bring the semantics of the primitive types and their boxed types closer together, maybe even making them basically indistinguishable
old wyvern
😮
onyx loom
fierce competition in helpchat
quiet depot
does slimjar and pdm have the same goal
jovial warren
and with generic specialization, Valhalla aims to allow for specialization of generic classes and interfaces over primitive types
prisma wave
yes
onyx loom
yes 🥲
prisma wave
exactly the same afaik
old wyvern
Kindof
quiet depot
this is anti open source behaviour
jovial warren
me and BM work on PDM rewrite
prisma wave
come on then
jovial warren
alright then
prisma wave
this is anti open source behaviour
my ego cant allow competition
old wyvern
lmao
jovial warren
what do we need
old wyvern
2 tanks, 3 barracks
quiet depot
i don't allow people to compete with docdex either bm
jovial warren
oh yeah, I need to look back at the proposals
onyx loom
who will get relocations first
prisma wave
pdm rewrite speedrun any%
ocean quartz
who will get relocations first
We already have that xD
quiet depot
bardy alerted me to a guy in minestom who was creating a javadoc bot a little while ago
onyx loom
o
quiet depot
destroyed that man's career
old wyvern
We already have that xD
😌
onyx loom
i was unaware of this matt
prisma wave
get in room 1 BM
do i have to
quiet depot
got my bot invited to their server
onyx loom
thought u guys were still working on it
quiet depot
all his code wasted
jovial warren
do i have to
might make our collaboration better
old wyvern
We have relocations + isolated classloaders
prisma wave
i kinda cba
jovial warren
also we should use this as an excuse to try out the new code collaboration feature in IJ lol
whatever it's called
quiet depot
code with me
old wyvern
Code With Me
old wyvern
🥲
prisma wave
We have relocations + isolated classloaders
yeah well we have bungee support so whose project is really better?
quiet depot
imagine not being platform agnostic
old wyvern
Yes bm?
prisma wave
how do u do maven repo stuff
old wyvern
wdym?
prisma wave
aether?
prisma wave
yes but
quiet depot
what's aether bm
prisma wave
you need transitives and stuff
old wyvern
gradle handles it I think
prisma wave
how
onyx loom
CLEARLY slimjar is just better
prisma wave
NO
quiet depot
I use "org.apache.maven:maven-repository-metadata:3.6.3"
old wyvern
xD
onyx loom
apache
prisma wave
huh
onyx loom
classic
old wyvern
Atleast get the music bot it
old wyvern
transitives work
Yes bm
obtuse gale
Bardy stuck in room1 alone
Classic
prisma wave
i am going to cry
prisma wave
how
quiet depot
what's so hard about transitives
old wyvern
Big team better
prisma wave
pom structure is messy and shit
onyx loom
all of bm's hardwork on pdm is being ruined by slimjar 🤣
ocean quartz
@prisma wave config.incoming.resolutionResult.allDependencies, but I haven't figured it all yet, because it gives me all dependencies, transitive and stuff, but doesn't tell me which needs to be where if you know what I mean, and also repeats a lot
jovial warren
also, BM, Could not find spigot-api-1.16.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar (org.spigotmc:spigot-api:1.16.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:20210319.221438-35). 🥲
it won't sync
prisma wave
<@!266973575225933824> `config.incoming.resolutionResult.allDependencies`, but I...
sounds messy
ocean quartz
It is, still trying to figure it, but at least it gives me the transitive ones
quiet depot
bm this is the official api
prisma wave
gradle api is cringe
jovial warren
can we use superior Kotlin DSL for rewrite pls btw
prisma wave
fine
quiet depot
o aether and that are a bit different
jovial warren
if it would fucking build lol
prisma wave
huh
jovial warren
oh I bet he removed the old ones or something
prisma wave
is that for parsing piggy?
jovial warren
lemme try clearing caches
ocean quartz
gradle api is cringe
It's horribly documented
prisma wave
ikr
quiet depot
i use it for docdex's auto updater
well not that one specifically
I use the repository models
old wyvern
callu
jovial warren
lol
prisma wave
@jovial warren WHERE is my material ui
jovial warren
yeah that's the name Windows picked for me
jovial warren
<@!266294134116057089> WHERE is my material ui
wdym
old wyvern
xD
old wyvern
code with me client is diff from ij I think bm
jovial warren
lol
old wyvern
I dont have ij installed, it ran for me
prisma wave
this is ABYSMAL
old wyvern
onyx loom
someones having fun
prisma wave
OH MY
old wyvern
jovial warren
lol
jovial warren
all I see is just a big long list of "alex joined" followed by "alex left"
old wyvern
lmao
prisma wave
fwofwjhwoiufhwfuwhfuiowhfiwufhw
jovial warren
ffs why are all of your tests failing
old wyvern
Unlike ofc
onyx loom
collaborative coding never works
.
prisma wave
help
obtuse gale
No
prisma wave
i need help
compact perchBOT
There is no time to wait! Ask your question @prisma wave!
jovial warren
what's actually wrong?
obtuse gale
i need help
Is it configuration help?
quiet depot
told u guys
i've tried collaborative coding before
mind you with floobits
it just doesn't work
it's not a good idea
jovial warren
right that's enough of that lol
maybe screen sharing is a better idea
BM get your ass in room 1 rn
hey pig
steel heart
i've tried collaborative coding before
Hmm yeah but for me it’s most because the integration is poor like floobits or code with me
jovial warren
would you have any idea why Gradle is finding a snapshot version of Spigot that doesn't exist?
onyx loom
invalidate cache
jovial warren
oml I tried that 100x over by now Yugi
old wyvern
lol
jovial warren
org.spigotmc:spigot-api:1.16.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:20210319.221438-35
lunar cypress
delete .m2
jovial warren
alright
quiet depot
also delete gradle spigot cache
jovial warren
yeah I just did that
quiet depot
johnny does gradle even download to m2?
waxen sphinx
support needed in #general-plugins
steel heart
Ok
prisma wave
Ok
jovial warren
support needed in <#164280494874165248>
yeah that ain't gonna get you any
jovial warren
delete .m2
did nothing
lunar cypress
johnny does gradle even download to m2?
I believe it does
jovial warren
invalidate caches & restart? did nothing
deleting Spigot caches in .gradle? did nothing
waxen sphinx
there is like 3 ppl that need support in that channel
jovial warren
and? do we look like support staff?
old wyvern
Delete system32
jovial warren
lol
waxen sphinx
johnny does gradle even download to m2?
well 5 secs ago (sorry for the ping)
quiet depot
well 5 secs ago (sorry for the ping)
I haven't used deluxemenus in years
prisma wave
WHAT
quiet depot
since when did that cost money
prisma wave
dude the raw recording was 87MB
i had to compress it
and then
dqiudhqiudh
i wish there was a good sharex alternative on linux
quiet depot
nice quality
prisma wave
BRUH
jovial warren
yeah I use VLC when the very useless films & whatever it is just breaks
prisma wave
WOKRs
forest pecan
vlc is just nice in general
prisma wave
WORKS
forest pecan
no need to shout @prisma wave
forest pecan
ya bish
prisma wave
@jovial warren try code with me again
prisma wave
it does gifs
jovial warren
<@!266294134116057089> try code with me again
alright
prisma wave
maybe videos too
forest pecan
i wish vlc accepted gifs 🥲
ocean quartz
I believe it does
Some of it goes to the .gradle folder inside the module2
quiet depot
there r gif apps on linux
jovial warren
quiet depot
i usually use gifine or obs
prisma wave
that's so much effort tho
quiet depot
yea ik 😦
onyx loom
for some reason i have to use VLC when screen sharing on discord, discord just doesnt pick up my Films & TV app so cant screen share with sound
forest pecan
to be fair, gif is an ass file extension
like how can a gif
be more in bytes
compared to an actual video file
like significantly bigger
onyx loom
well, that would entirely depend on the video file