#dev-general
jovial warren
prisma wave
Emotions are impure
quiet depot
wat
jovial warren
I'm looking to create a tool that can download Minecraft server and the mappings, deobfuscate using the mappings, decompile and then apply some Git patches to fix up decompilation errors and give local variables and parameter names meaning
quiet depot
i know nothing i iz bad dev
unkempt tangle
Senpai
jovial warren
Ik there's tools to do the first two
unkempt tangle
I love how you indent your YAML
prisma wave
thanks
jovial warren
Also, build tools applies Spigot mappings and Spigot patches
quiet depot
separately
jovial warren
I want to apply Mojang mappings and my own patches
quiet depot
build off buildtools
jovial warren
Yeah might not be a bad idea
unkempt tangle
How hard would it be to make server-side application, if you have raw script codes to interpret the protocols?
prisma wave
what
jovial warren
I know https://github.com/HeartPattern/MC-Remapper exists for the mappings, and then CFR for the decompilation, all I need is a tool that can apply patches lol
And I want it to be one simple command
E.g. ./patcher run (or patcher run on Windows)
Maybe I could also generate some sort of Gradle project from the sources as well
So you can just take one script and run it to download the obfuscated JAR, deobfuscate it with the mappings, decompile it to source files, apply patches that fix up decompilation errors and add some Gradle stuff, then move the packages into the correct folder, remove everything that's obtained from dependencies, and then allow you to build and run it
Now that would be cool, don't you think?
quiet depot
i think so but this isn’t my area so idk
jovial warren
Ah fair
This may or may not mean that I've now gotta learn bash, batch and git patches 🥲
onyx loom
dieded
obtuse gale
well I believe that image is a joke
you see
it's made with comic sans
something doesn't add up...
onyx loom
🤨
half harness
lol
unkempt tangle
Oh yus
onyx loom
unkempt tangle
hot hull
Staffn't
obtuse gale
why :C
half harness
😮
hot hull
Resigned, if you can call it that
obtuse gale
hm :\
hot hull
Resigned, how do you get fired from a voluntary position
obtuse gale
onyx loom
why ☹️
half harness
Resigned, how do you get fired from a voluntary position
why
jovial warren
Resigned, how do you get fired from a voluntary position
why
hot hull
Sheesh why everyone so nosy, just cba to be support anymore aka now I can finally be banned
onyx loom
😾
hot hull
Just ruined my entire week cause I saw someone I didn't want to see
forest pecan
Just ruined my entire week cause I saw someone I didn't want to see
who
onyx loom
you
oak raft
now we can ping frosty 😈
onyx loom
yeah about that
forest pecan
Lmfao
sweet cipher
Frosty doesn’t need to be support now that they can sell their bedwars plugin for millions of dollars
oak coyote
Ez stonks
ocean quartz
Resigned, if you can call it that
hot hull
Doesn't matter
I mean I was on the chopping block anyways, so either this or eventual demotion
onyx loom
why so
obtuse gale
frosty❤️uwu
onyx loom
uve been really helpful in recent times frosty :kek:
hot hull
You've any idea how many rules I've broke recently? :kek:
oak raft
You've any idea how many rules I've broke recently? :kek:
go on... 🗒️ 🖊️
tawny peak
You've any idea how many rules I've broke recently? :kek:
like?
half harness
#827055635052888075 why do people post requests with budgets in request-free
half harness
and then there are other people that post like $100 budget in #827055634586271775 and #827055635052888075
like what?!?!
forest pecan
because people are even more stupid
look at this request in #827055634586271775 lol
[Service] Server Advertising
[Request] If you know effective ways to get customers please get in touch, I currently need serious promotion staff
[Budget] $1.00-3000.00
"Hey, can you advertise for me"
"Sure! What's your budget"
"Hmm.. either a buck or 3 grand"
forest pecan
lol
half harness
lol
prisma wave
probably
forest pecan
i havent seen any docs about it
half harness
is there any "preview" of DyeColor colors?
obtuse gale
the mc fandom probably
half harness
https://github.com/dkim19375/Bedwars/blob/master/plugin/src/main/kotlin/me/dkim19375/bedwars/plugin/enumclass/Team.kt
I put DyeColors in my Team enum.. but the colors are a lot darker than expected (when doing String.formatWithColors, in the Team.kt file)
real pagoda
hey wut is the name of javasciprtengine of graalvm
half harness
for example, the blue team is showing up as dark blue
even though the dye color is light blue
and the red is dark red
should i just add another field in my enum for ChatColor?
obtuse gale
why are you using extension functions... on your own team class
half harness
no idea
obtuse gale
just make them part of the class..?
onyx loom
lmao
hot hull
🎵 I wonder why, I wonder how 🎵
obtuse gale
@half harness the legacySection serializer doesn't serialize hex colors apparently (it picks the nearest legacy color)
use the builder and use the useUnusualRepeatedXPattern or whatever that's called
half harness
but i thought it would go to the nearest chatcolor
ocean quartz
useStupidPattern
half harness
also does 1.8 support hex?
obtuse gale
...
ocean quartz
No lol
ocean quartz
NamedTextColor is all you need for older versions
half harness
isn't that adventure stuff
obtuse gale
you are already using adventure aren't you
half harness
well yes im using it for the titles
and for converting dyecolor to chatcolor
my brain just didn't think of making a chatcolor field
lol
obtuse gale
holy
ocean quartz
Well yes but actually no
forest pecan
Well yes but actually no
half harness
:p
obtuse gale
if you're using the string to send as a message just use adventure...
plus if it's rgb and a 1.16+ client is seeing it, it'll be sent as with rgb
for older clients it'll be downsampled
ocean quartz
That's why you write for latest and add support for older not the other way around
half harness
i wanted a hypixel-like bedwars plugin for 1.8
it already exists for 1.16 - sorta
but 1.8 is more pvp friendly
obtuse gale
dkim what are you using the "formatted" string for
obtuse gale
just... use components.......?
oak raft
That's why you write for latest and add support for older not the other way arou...
but if you don't like older versions, don't support them 
obtuse gale
yeah we do that already lol
ocean quartz
^
Was talking specifically for dkim
hot hull
So when we banning all 1.8 users?
obtuse gale
at midnight
hot hull
Ngl I kinda like this pink color
half harness
That's why you write for latest and add support for older not the other way arou...
imo writing for lower versions is better, because deprecated stuff usually works anyways, so there are less things to worry about when bringing to 1.16
hot hull
No lol
ocean quartz
Me too, I'm sad i hate the ugly orange while at the beautiful pink tier
obtuse gale
dkim living in the past
half harness
:)
ocean quartz
imo writing for lower versions is better, because deprecated stuff usually works...
Yeah that doesn't make any sense
oak raft
yeah we do that already lol
🥲 no you weren't supposed to do that
half harness
i started with bedrock edition, and in bedrock, theres no hit delay, which is why when i started using java, i preferred 1.8 (for pvp and minigames, ofc i used latest version for other stuff)
forest pecan
fuck bedrock
half harness
🥲
obtuse gale
bedrock kinda whack tho
half harness
their anticheat is 🥶
forest pecan
lol
obtuse gale
snow layers don't break when you remove the block below them
they fall
snow layers fall when breaking the block below
obtuse gale
my dad works for mojang
vouch
half harness
my message took so long to delete
forest pecan
my mom works at microsoft
half harness
aaaa
ocean quartz
Oh yeah true Dkim, you should go play bedrock, that way you can play latest and still have the boring pvp
half harness
i dont have access to bedrock anymore
(which is why i switched to 1.8 and java)
actually
i started with 1.16
for a while
then I saw youtubers block their sword
and i asked my friend how they did that
forest pecan
lol
half harness
and they told me to use 1.8
forest pecan
ur friend is a brainwasher
half harness
since then, ive been using 1.8 99.9% of the time
obtuse gale
how depressing
ocean quartz
That's a very tragic story
half harness
😔
half harness
viarewind
ocean quartz
It's like a full story of a man descending into madness
real pagoda
when will javascript support java 15 ? or event 16 and 17
obtuse gale
It's like a full story of a man descending into madness
the comedian
forest pecan
viarewind <:fingerguns:730681133200834592>
thats like saying to use tape to fix up a broken vase instead of buying a new one
lol
obtuse gale
when will javascript support java 15 ? or event 16 and 17
17 ain't even out yet lmao
ocean quartz
when will javascript support java 15 ? or event 16 and 17
Wut?
half harness
i used to play bedrock bedwars & eggwars all the time
forest pecan
i used to play bedrock bedwars & eggwars all the time
eggwars is much easier than bedwars
real pagoda
the javascript expansion
hot hull
Me too, I'm sad i hate the ugly orange while at the beautiful pink tier
Resign, easy stonks ||don't actually tho||
ocean quartz
Oh lol, might have been a better question for #placeholder-api
forest pecan
Frosty did the admins hate you
real pagoda
Oh lol, might have been a better question for <#573429521554866178>
already have no solution there
ocean quartz
Then I shall never resign
half harness
🥺
half harness
cause eggwars you just tap once
also the bedrock pvp community is a lot.. noobier than java lol
i won like most of the games in bedrock, meanwhile i have like 11% winrate in bedwars in hypixel
forest pecan
you are playing on pc?
half harness
yes
forest pecan
lmfao
half harness
bedrock has no blocking 😦
ocean quartz
also the bedrock pvp community is a lot.. noobier than java lol
Prolly because the pvp system is very noob friendly
half harness
also
bedrock bridge
wtf
you can literally sprint and jump
and hold right click
and bridge
ig it makes mobile users easier to bridge
forest pecan
you cant do that on mobile stoopid
lol
on mobile you have to tap each block manually
forest pecan
mhm
forest pecan
lol
half harness
although since bedrock anticheats suck u can just zoooom
oh
wanna know a fun fact
ocean quartz
You act like Java's anticheats are good
half harness
okay matt is here
ocean quartz
I'm always here
ocean quartz
Yeah sure
real pagoda
where can i submit javascript placeholder ?
half harness
without OP
i remember in an anarchy server, i used to just give myself diamond armor lvl 32k
forest pecan
it wasnt a backdoor
half harness
forest pecan
i dont think?
half harness
you sure?
forest pecan
Yeah. It's unknown i think how the person managed to get into hausemaster's account
but they somehow did it, got barrier blocks, and everything
forest pecan
they did?
forest pecan
oh it was a backdoor
half harness
and thats how most backdoors work in mc servers
forest pecan
The second major backdoor of 2b2t occurred during December of 2013. The backdoor involved iTristan and Pyrobyte designing a plugin to block access to the nether roof. The backdoor has two major features, the ability to spawn hacked items such as player heads and 32K weapons, and allowed travel on the nether roof if the player was riding a horse.
They also used it to get to the world border. The 2b2t Arms Race, was a time period in 2b2t history that lasted for 3 years, from December of 2013 during the First Valkyrian Period and ended in the spring of 2016, during the Pre-Hype Period, right before The Age of Hype. This event was a large scale search for the ominous super weapons created by Pyrobyte and iTristan during the second backdoor of 2b2t.
yea
forest pecan
By the way, @tranquil crane could I use how you managed to provide block highlights (debug information) for an animation in my library? I will provide the proper credits.
oh wait
you stole it from https://github.com/ArtFect/BlockHighlight
lol
/**
- Happily stolen from <a href="https://github.com/ArtFect/BlockHighlight">ArtFect's BlockHighlight</a>
*/
xD
ocean quartz
Welcome to open source
forest pecan
oh lmfao
hot hull
The wonders of OS
quiet depot
@lunar cypress i7-7700K 32GB DDR4-3200
pro tip to any linux users, use LVM from the start
jesus fuck migrating to LVM might just be the hardest thing I've ever had to do
hot hull
You smell good
hot hull
This discord feels weird now not having all those smexy channels kek
forest pecan
welcome to the non gang
hot hull
You do realize support doesn't have any smexy perms right?
onyx loom
some non staff can already see that, not gonna name names tho 🌚
half harness
🥲
jovial warren
some non staff can already see that, not gonna name names tho 🌚
special kids
tawny peak
special kids
13+
jovial warren
lol
forest pecan
some non staff can already see that, not gonna name names tho 🌚
helpful role people?
onyx loom
BD 🥶
forest pecan
huh
oblique heath
say, when Bukkit.shutdown() is called
does that happen immediately or does it give a chance for the tick it was called during to finish
hot hull
I'd presume waits for the tick to finish
oblique heath
nice
static zealot
dw @hot hull. We will still make you the most powerful man in this discord! #dev-general message
static zealot
already did
onyx loom
no can do
half harness
😮
onyx loom
<@!234343108773412864> i7-7700K 32GB DDR4-3200
im looking at ur results just out of interest, and ur results vary a lot from mine
like anything my cpu sucks at, urs excels in, anything urs sucks at, mine excels
quiet depot
same can be said for gpus too
like ik amd cards outperform the new nvidia cards at lower resolutions
onyx loom
yeah
quiet depot
the 3000 series cards’ power only comes out at high res
obtuse gale
wat
hot hull
can use curse words
static zealot
oh ?
hot hull
can't
onyx loom
frosty wants staff back now 🌚
static zealot
ok good. bcz rules say you can
or at least they did. RN I'm to blind to see where it said that
ocean quartz
I did not know there were blocked words ;o
onyx loom
c word
obtuse gale
cumbersome?
onyx loom
yes
oblique heath
charizard
static zealot
Well fuck
half harness
I did not know there were blocked words ;o
e word
aka eggplant
obtuse gale
contemporary
obtuse gale
O
hot hull
Wait what
jovial warren
trying to decide whether author tags are a good idea or not
onyx loom
itll just be all ur name, whats the point kek
jovial warren
since on the one hand, it allows contributors to be recognised for their work, but on the other, it can get very complicated when some code is edited by 10 different people, and suddenly, before you know it, you have 10 different author tags on one class
this is for Krypton btw
just doing a huge refactor rn
like every single file will be edited guaranteed kinda refactor
onyx loom
have 1 author tag - if u contribute over 50% of the code in that class, u get the tag 🌚
jovial warren
have 1 author tag - if u contribute over 50% of the code in that class, u get th...
lol
onyx loom
i promise that wont get messy at all
static zealot
Wait what
he's probably using some special white space
in the middle or something
or the no space space
jovial warren
also, I swear I'm gonna get murdered for doing a massive refactor all in one commit
maybe Git can help me with that
half harness
dont get bluescreened in the middle of it 🙂
lunar cypress
<@!234343108773412864> i7-7700K 32GB DDR4-3200
I appreciate it
I passed my LA exam pog
hot hull
LA?
lunar cypress
Linear Algebra
obtuse gale
Nah, Johnny gon to Los Angeles
gusty glen
what Is rabbit mq used for, mostly
prisma wave
Messaging 
gusty glen
would you mind please explain in more details
hot hull
Messaging
tranquil crane
By the way, <@!189580580990615553> could I use how you managed to provide block ...
MIT license babyyyyyy
forest pecan
lmao
hot hull
scuzzi what gradle?
steel heart
happened to me as well
ocean quartz
scuzzi what gradle?
Use Gradle kts
hot hull
nein
ocean quartz
Sadge
steel heart
finally someone who doesn't despise it
static zealot
despise what? Gradle KTS? Most people here switched to kts
hot hull
One day Matt
steel heart
despise what? Gradle KTS? Most people here switched to kts
that happened when?
hot hull
Yes, but some of the code in here just makes me wanna kek
static zealot
that happened when?
idk/ probably BM again. But yeah most switched to KTS
steel heart
Let's not get too excited now, I mean we all do dodo stuff
ok good cuz groovy/gradle is horrific
onyx loom
groovy good
static zealot
customisable guis for what?
steel heart
because you get stupid ass warnings
onyx loom
just u
steel heart
scuzzi what gradle?
lol just look
onyx loom
🥲
static zealot
yeah I never had problems with groovy and when I had some random issues I just refreshed and it always worked
onyx loom
this
steel heart
I like when it also doesn't give me random warnings but yeah I guess else it's fine
half harness
despise what? Gradle KTS? Most people here switched to kts
imagine using kts smh
steel heart
imagine not smh
half harness
ah
static zealot
BM as well I think
half harness
okay
static zealot
some people switched but not everyone
onyx loom
id like to see kts write compileOnly without using 2 extra chars!
ocean quartz
BM as well I think
BM doesn't
onyx loom
kts switch was just a thing that started it on its own afaik
steel heart
id like to see kts write compileOnly without using 2 extra chars!
bruh
onyx loom
ik bardy and johnny were using it way before everyone else
ocean quartz
I went for it because was tired of the warnings from Groovy
static zealot
ah alright
ocean quartz
ik bardy and johnny were using it way before everyone else
Bardy wasn't, just Johnny, Bardy switched very recently
static zealot
well I was thinking of switching but I don't even know how to use groovy fully yet lmao
onyx loom
noooo that cant be true matt. i remember like a year ago everyone was bullying bardy for using kts
steel heart
yeah he did use it back in the days
ocean quartz
Also I wanna see Groovy do maven("https://repoLink") instead maven { url = "https://repoLink" }
prisma wave
RRRRRRRRR
static zealot
idk I like =
prisma wave
RRRRRR
static zealot
url =
onyx loom
sir id like to inform u that u are
1: adding an extra =
2: using "" (🤢 🤮) instead of '' (😍)
ocean quartz
Ew single quotes
ocean quartz
' is for chars, that's common knowledge duh
onyx loom
not in groovy!
ocean quartz
Groovy can die!
prisma wave
groovy is groovy
onyx loom
u can die!
ocean quartz
True
onyx loom
wait can i join in?
hot hull
u can die!
I sure hope I do
hot hull
yup
prisma wave
@everyone
loud gyroBOT
The 'everyone' mention is disabled so you can't annoy people.
prisma wave
just making sure 🙂
onyx loom
interesting.
hot hull
u got a death wish or something?
Yes
static zealot
😮
obtuse gale
Fefo kinda started it
well I guess I did lmao
pale shell
man the dev of UPC is actually such a cool guy. He will actually listen to requests.
I ask him to put some methods into the API and within hours it's in and on spigot
pale shell
he's gonna get some $$$ soon as a thank you 
unkempt tangle
hollow needle
how can i make role categories in discord?
surreal quarry
use the hex color of dark mode
hollow needle
use the hex color of dark mode
and wht bot?
surreal quarry
what?
hollow needle
which bot
surreal quarry
if you’re talking about the thing helpchat has, it has nothing to do with a bot
just change the role color to the dark mode hex color
hollow needle
well i'm new in discord so can u help me make it pls
onyx loom
?hidden-roles
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
surreal quarry
yea that
hollow needle
ok
surreal quarry
didn’t know there was a faq
prisma wave
is that oblivion
static zealot
java -version
-bash: /usr/bin/java: No such file or directory
``` Someone help me 😢 😢tried installing libc6-i386
and @steel heart pls shut up. I don't want to hear your stupid voice ||jk||
steel heart
ok thanks for your support
half harness
voice reveal 👀
steel heart
ye
half harness
did u look in #voice-talk
steel heart
nope
half harness
😔
static zealot
I might have installed Krypton instead of Paper xD https://i.imgur.com/Xr8MOax.png
obtuse gale
lol
jovial warren
I might have installed Krypton instead of Paper xD https://i.imgur.com/Xr8MOax.p...
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
static zealot
huh?
old wyvern
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
Burnt
forest pecan
?
static zealot
I don't hear you @jovial warren if you're saying anything. I muted everyone just the bot. bcz you guys took the bot as a prisoner 😢
jovial warren
I don't hear you <@!266294134116057089> if you're saying anything. I muted every...
lol
old wyvern
Single commit hell again?
forest pecan
LMAO
static zealot
who the fuck was that?
forest pecan
its a clarinet
static zealot
everyone's muted now so idk
old wyvern
Are you actually playing it or, just playing from some audio?
obtuse gale
because?
old wyvern
Nice
forest pecan
lol
humble silo
I want to hear Jazz
old wyvern
Doesnt sound like it tho
old wyvern
Too clear to be from an instrument
obtuse gale
mk
humble silo
blues
forest pecan
Yea
humble silo
i think you missed a note
forest pecan
Yeah
humble silo
1 3b 4 #4 5 7b
old wyvern
Does the clarinet play normal musical notes or is there any variation from other instruments?
forest pecan
It's normal ig
humble silo
I played clarinet till 8th grade
old wyvern
Like violin requires a shift for the same tones
humble silo
then switched to alto
humble silo
sight read
old wyvern
forest pecan
lmfao
humble silo
@forest pecan I found you the piece of music
I was never able to play this
Transcribe it
random cove
Is there any general minecraft support channel on here?
old wyvern
humble silo
forest pecan
yea
forest pecan
i can play my concerto
old wyvern
Play the spiderman theme
random cove
Haha, two different channels, which is correct
forest pecan
kk lol
obtuse gale
lol
old wyvern
Lol
old wyvern
Play the spiderman theme bitch
humble silo
amazing
old wyvern
😂
old wyvern
Ikr
obtuse gale
did IJ totally remove the possibility of opening the settings window from the main projects page?
old wyvern
🥲
forest pecan
how long have you been playikng?
5 years
old wyvern
Dyum boi
humble silo
dang nice
old wyvern
ClarinetBeat_02
forest pecan
squidward
half harness
lol
humble silo
@forest pecan Go bard, make music to entertain me
old wyvern
@forest pecan
forest pecan
i can play my slow movement
humble silo
go
forest pecan
k lol
old wyvern
Sad pulse sounds
forest pecan
FUck off
static zealot
don't put it on 133%
forest pecan
@static zealot turn it to 700
static zealot
no thanks
humble silo
wow
static zealot
lmao
forest pecan
or else i will do =vol 59
humble silo
ur all so nice
forest pecan
lol
static zealot
I wasn't saying your music is bad ||it is tho|| I was just complaining about the volume smh
old wyvern
=play Im on a horse ksi
forest pecan
🥲
old wyvern
=seek 60
oak cypressBOT
@old wyvern, Seeking!
forest pecan
@obtuse gale what do you think bitch
old wyvern
=vol 292992
oak cypressBOT
@old wyvern, Setting Volume!
jovial warren
=seek 1000
oak cypressBOT
@jovial warren, Seeking!
humble silo
i muted it right before you did that
obtuse gale
holy shit
old wyvern
Lmao
humble silo
@forest pecan I still want Jazz
jovial warren
humble silo
Cannonball aderly on the clarinet
humble silo
welll
jovial warren
you can actually seek over the song length and get rid of the bot
forest pecan
lmao
obtuse gale
<@456226577798135808> what do you think bitch
well idk about wind instruments so I can't really opine 🤡
static zealot
||blaming it on the audio quality 
||
humble silo
Blitz, can you dont some interpretive singing and dancing for us then?
static zealot
nah that's not me
I already did a face reveal
I even stared as the principal character in a movie about me
obtuse gale
sadge
forest pecan
humble silo
Ill watch that too though
forest pecan
is the audio quality much better
old wyvern
Still loading
static zealot
ok this is much better
humble silo
it was cutting out in discord so ya
static zealot
but still don't put it on 133%
forest pecan
lmfao
ocean quartz
Yugi, did you see my ping from yesterday? xD
humble silo
lol what did you drop at the end?
old wyvern
Which one matt?
forest pecan
i was just tapping my phone
static zealot
lmao
forest pecan
and i hit the music stand
old wyvern
I may not have 😅
forest pecan
thats the sound
ocean quartz
static zealot
yo @humble silo here face reveal: https://i.imgur.com/D2yKBTW.png
ocean quartz
This one xD
old wyvern
This one?
ocean quartz
Yeah
humble silo
very impressive 🤣
static zealot
Yeah. I'm very cool you know
old wyvern
Oh so the gradle plugin cant depend on another module??
ocean quartz
Doesn't seem like it
ocean quartz
We can always release the module and implement it in the plugin xD
Yeah it work on another module
humble silo
I love that feature
old wyvern
I think maybe we can just have a relocation module then
ocean quartz
Oh wait no, no module works in the gradle plugin module
old wyvern
Oh
Rip
Ok I guess just copy paste that package in
Why has gradle done this so
Feels like an anti pattern
ocean quartz
I was thinking about just releasing to maven local for now
Or maybe there is a way, i'll search around
old wyvern
But that wont work across dev environments
Everyone will have to deploy to local before usage
Maybe a lib folder with the compiled slimjar?
old wyvern
And have a task always copy builds there
ocean quartz
Hmm let me see if i can make that happen as a module, if not i'll copy for now
old wyvern
Alrighty
static zealot
@jovial warren u listening to Barry? Or can I kick?
humble silo
finally
static zealot
o
jovial warren
nice
humble silo
Dont know what that is but very cool
jovial warren
checkstyle.xml
basically a system that enforces code styles and tells you when you fuck up
humble silo
no
sweet cipher
written from scratch
Scratch best language
humble silo
what is the checkstyle for though
humble silo
Scratch best language
no cap
forest pecan
Scratch best language
yes
obtuse gale
but written from scratch
who would have thought
please tell me more bardy, I don't think I've heard enough 😂
jovial warren
checkstyle is a plugin that you can use to detect errors in code styling
humble silo
I have projects on scratch from 7 or more years ago
jovial warren
to tell people off for writing trash code of course
humble silo
ah perfect, automate code bullying
jovial warren
indeed
jovial warren
actually maybe checkstyle isn't what I want
maybe I want detekt, which works properly for Kotlin
jovial warren
Especially when it screams at you because of a newline
yeah that's a good thing lol
I am very strict about my styling
cinder flare
oh shit bardy's going to enforce his garbage newline policies
jovial warren
you know the new line policy is actually a thing that's very new for me lol
this is the first time I've bothered with it
sweet cipher
You guys are saying your page scrolls vertically and not horizontally?
old wyvern
I dont ussually care for a single newline being somewhere
jovial warren
.editorconfig will piss you off though, if you choose to use it
old wyvern
This guy had it set so there cant be a newline after class defs
jovial warren
because it uses the superior line break after class header
I mean, not having a new line after the header looks fine in Java, but just doesn't really work for Kotlin imo
it just doesn't look good
humble silo
Is it bad to use brackets as formatting? like creating another scope without really a reason besides formatting?
jovial warren
root = true
[*]
charset = utf-8
indent_style = space
indent_size = 4
trim_trailing_whitespace = true
insert_final_newline = true
ij_continuation_indent_size = 8
ij_smart_tabs = true
ij_any_block_brace_style = end_of_line
ij_any_class_brace_style = end_of_line
ij_any_lambda_brace_style = end_of_line
ij_any_method_brace_style = end_of_line
ij_any_blank_lines_after_class_header = 1
ij_any_blank_lines_after_anonymous_class_header = 1
ij_any_blank_lines_after_imports = 1
ij_any_blank_lines_after_package = 1
ij_any_blank_lines_before_package = 0
ij_any_blank_lines_before_imports = 0
ij_any_blank_lines_around_class = 0
ij_any_blank_lines_around_field = 0
ij_any_blank_lines_around_field_in_interface = 2
ij_any_blank_lines_around_method = 2
ij_any_blank_lines_around_method_in_interface = 2
ij_any_blank_lines_before_method_body = 0
ij_any_blank_lines_before_class_end = 0
[*.json]
indent_size = 2
insert_final_newline = false
[*.conf]
indent_size = 2
insert_final_newline = false
[*.xml]
insert_final_newline = false
```here's the editorconfigUssually its bad, yes
humble silo
any reason in particular?
old wyvern
Doesnt really contribute to any usage except being annoying to read
cinder flare
Is it bad to use brackets as formatting? like creating another scope without rea...
wait give an example wdym
humble silo
old wyvern
He means creating a scope
humble silo
like this
cinder flare
what in the jesus christ
jovial warren
ewwwwwwwwww
old wyvern
Thats an init block
cinder flare
why would you ever do that
humble silo
I mean i dont generally do it
old wyvern
Thats used a bit chestly
jovial warren
what in the jesus christ
yeah some people do it
old wyvern
Depends on your usecase
humble silo
wow
cinder flare
you should never do it
jovial warren
I've seen Minestom do it a hell of a lot
old wyvern
I meant in between you methods
jovial warren
and it kills me
old wyvern
Not a good idea to use it there
humble silo
wow
old wyvern
an initializer block is fine depending on your usecase
humble silo
i dont generally like those
old wyvern
mhm
humble silo
but inside a method just as formatting
cinder flare
an initializer block is fine depending on your usecase
that's what constructors are for
humble silo
I would really only do it for static fields but ok
cinder flare
why would you put it in its own scope though
humble silo
just as formatting
cinder flare
it looks fucking awful
humble silo
really?
old wyvern
Its not about a separate scope but rather the ordering of fields sometimes
cinder flare
yes?
humble silo
I kinda like it but ok
humble silo
ok i just took it out
cinder flare
I think I hate that more than I hate opening squiggly brackets on a newline
and I didn't think that was possible
cinder flare
omg yes
humble silo
lol ok fine
forest pecan
i wish i could use java 11
humble silo
i love it
cinder flare
i wish i could use java 11
java 15 😎
humble silo
its not that big of a difference
humble silo
like i dont really use var all that often
old wyvern
There are ij plugins that can fold type defs if you want that lol
cinder flare
well it helps a lot when your working with generics
cause typing all of that shit is so annoying
old wyvern
You still have to type the generic out sometimes even with var xD
humble silo
Its becuase im so good at java
humble silo
yes
forest pecan
i get those once in a while
cinder flare
it's just, there's no reason to explicitly type 90% of variables
forest pecan
does spigot delete logs automatically?
cinder flare
like every other language has type inference
forest pecan
or paper?
cinder flare
javascript, typescript, kotlin, ruby, etc.
sweet cipher
I want VAR
How come?
cinder flare
the reasons I just listed
old wyvern
javascript, type inference
forest pecan
V A R
sweet cipher
When should I use var?
cinder flare
yeah true in JS you just don't even get to know the type
humble silo
What is a Mouse over?
old wyvern
Oracle trying their best to be less verbose
😌
cinder flare
sounds like when you move your mouse over something
humble silo
whats the different between that and hover?
cinder flare
hover is when you hold it still for a sec
old wyvern
I mean tbh I do prefer variables without var when reading
humble silo
oh
cinder flare
mouse over is any time you touch it
cinder flare
i mean I quite like reading Kotlin code
you can hover over it if you want to know the type'
old wyvern
I dont always read from an ide, and the hover thing also has a delay
onyx loom
explicitly type the Type 🌚
old wyvern
Yea I do do that where possible
cinder flare
i mean do you have trouble reading Kotlin code?
forest pecan
val star = Star("Star", "minor");
val starsMom = StarSMom("Star's Mom", "not a minor");
star.intercourse(starsMom);
i find it quite easy and you always use val and var
forest pecan
Star you live in alabama right
old wyvern
Yea, I end up having to look through all function calls to find the type
cinder flare
Star you live in alabama right
no and i'm not a minor lol
forest pecan
lmfao
sweet cipher
var<String> string This should be the way it is done, much more concise
onyx loom
sometimes it is annoying reading kotlin from github, i know what yugi means
old wyvern
Even kotlin sometimes recommends specifying the type after the variable
cinder flare
Yea, I end up having to look through all function calls to find the type
really? i tend to not have to find the type that often
its almost always quite obvious
old wyvern
It really helps in large codebases
cinder flare
if you're naming things correctly and all that
sweet cipher
Star you live in alabama right
Utah, even worse
cinder flare
Utah, even worse
what the fuck is wrong with utah
cinder flare
😦
obtuse gale
<3
prisma wave
tah
sweet cipher
It has a u in the name
old wyvern
bm has awoken
prisma wave
hello
old wyvern
Isnt it like 12 in the uk?
prisma wave
11
old wyvern
ah
old wyvern
Yugi has a u
wha
ocean quartz
sometimes it is annoying reading kotlin from github, i know what yugi means
Wait till you try figuring JS 🥲
old wyvern
Wait till you try figuring JS 🥲
Very sad
forest pecan
/s
ocean quartz
Oh god and PHP
sweet cipher
Wait till you try figuring JS 🥲
JavaSkript
old wyvern
Java style is lovely to read, kotlin style is lovely to write*
forest pecan
Yugi isn't indian right lmao
old wyvern
Yugi isn't indian right lmao
I am
old wyvern
lol
sweet cipher
JavaSkript
Combination of the two best languages
half harness
👀
