dev-general

[prisma wave]

aren't clojure lists O(n) lookup as well?

[onyx loom]

epic johnny

[lunar cypress]

no clojure vectors aren't

[onyx loom]

what can i say, my pc best pc (totally)

[static zealot]

Worst thing: malware xD

[old wyvern]

This should've been the language selection... but... its something

[lunar cypress]

They should be O(log n)

[ocean quartz]

What are you using for benchmarking, Johnny?

[lunar cypress]

jmh

[prisma wave]

Oh wow

That's quite impressive then

[prisma wave]

That looks great

[ocean quartz]

Tyty

[lunar cypress]

But I'll have to investigate there because it shouldn't be able to get much simpler than arraylist lookup

Anyone more experienced with python data science stuff and can recommend a library to graph data + a quickstart?

[prisma wave]

Matplotlib is supposed to be good

[lunar cypress]

something is seriously wrong with ArrayList

the results get more absurd

Removing 1M elements takes 20 (!) seconds

[onyx loom]

🥶

[lunar cypress]

while for the persistent ones it's around 1 second

can't be right

[humble silo]

were you debugging while checking that?

[lunar cypress]

this is definitely an outlier though

[old wyvern]

Lookup as in fetching value at a index right?

[lunar cypress]

gotta run that again

[lunar cypress]

yes

[old wyvern]

Wow

But

That makes no sense

How is java managing to be slower

[onyx loom]

lmao

[lunar cypress]

what java version btw kaliber?

[onyx loom]

should be running on 11

[oak raft]

should I learn clojure before kotlin

[old wyvern]

Yes!

[onyx loom]

yeah 11

[old wyvern]

Also

Learn Haskell

[oak raft]

all before kotlin?

[old wyvern]

Yes

Kotlin is evil

[onyx loom]

openjdk too if thats of any note to u johnny, probably not

[oak raft]

Ok! 👍

[lunar cypress]

I have no idea

[prisma wave]

Yes

[lunar cypress]

let me see if I consume the results correctly

[prisma wave]

Clojure is an interesting language

[onyx loom]

clojure is faster than java :kek:

[prisma wave]

Yep

[old wyvern]

Wait

[oak raft]

Once elara comes out I'm dropping everything to learn that though, obviously.

[old wyvern]

How many elements was it with?

The initial test you posted the result of

1M elemn?

[prisma wave]

When the dynamically typed language outperforms java

[lunar cypress]

Idk what your pc did to get 20 seconds with barely any error in that 1 java benchmark but there definitely went something wrong there

[old wyvern]

sadge

[onyx loom]

ill run it again tomorrow johnny if u want

the more the merrier right

[prisma wave]

I'll run on my VPS if you want

[lunar cypress]

Yes, but not before I investigate in some places

[prisma wave]

Okay

[lunar cypress]

Your VPS probably has shit single core performance like mine

[old wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-holmes-ant-detective-gif-3467179

[onyx loom]

all for science 😎

[prisma wave]

Probably but worth a try

[lunar cypress]

If you want you can run the one outlier in isolation

[prisma wave]

I've also got an Azure VPS with a dual core Xeon

Can't remember which one

[onyx loom]

yea can do that then

[oblique heath]

x5670 😎

[lunar cypress]

includes.set(listOf("JavaRemoval.benchmarkArrayList"))
you can put that in the jmh block in build.gradle.kts

see if the result is still 20 seconds

for addition clojure's vector is pretty much on par with ArrayList

[prisma wave]

Impressive

[lunar cypress]

it seems the other collections are the places where Java clearly outperforms the others

well, apart from stacks and queues

[prisma wave]

Are vectors roughly equivalent to a TreeSet?

[lunar cypress]

no, they're the ArrayList equivalent

[prisma wave]

Oh right

But implemented as a tree

[lunar cypress]

yeah, for structure sharing

the other results look about what I anticipated

[steel heart]

any field that is mutated across more than one thread should in principle be volatile?

[lunar cypress]

kotlin's persistent collections are fast too though, holy cow

[prisma wave]

Kotlin... Good?

[oblique heath]

does anybody have any thoughts on how i should handle this:

I have a master server and some slave servers which the master deploys.

• I can send messages from master <-> slave using server sockets
  • each slave has a specific open port that the master keeps track of, used for master -> slave
• the master has an ID for each slave but the slaves don't know it

I need the slaves to know their own id, but they take a random amount of time to spin up so I don't think I can just send them a message as soon as I create them.

[half harness]

yes

[prisma wave]

get them to send a request to the master asking for their ID once they startup?

Idk if that's a good practice or not

But

[oblique heath]

i would like to do that but the issue is the master needs them to identify themselves

[old wyvern]

How many elements john?

[oblique heath]

the only way it knows which slave messages it is if they send their ID

[lunar cypress]

1M

well, + 1000 technically

[onyx loom]

im sensing something is wrong here

[prisma wave]

How are the IDs allocated

[oblique heath]

well I use the player uuid which the slave belongs to, as well as a number for the index of the slave for that player

[lunar cypress]

does the console say anything?

[old wyvern]

Maybe theres some compile time optimization, otherwise very odd that o(logn) manages to execute faster than o(1)

[oblique heath]

each slave has a specific open port that the master keeps track of over which the master can send them messages

[lunar cypress]

You can take a look at the code, I've tried to circumvent all optimisations that obfuscate the result that I'm aware of

[onyx loom]

ok yeah this is better, i was running it through IJ instead of console

[old wyvern]

Alrighty

[prisma wave]

So how would slave 1 differ to slave 2? Because if there's no difference you could just keep a queue of "uuids to allocate" and do it first-come first-serve

[oblique heath]

each slave is a player's server

i need player A to get his own server every time

[hot hull]

Oh y'all got slaves?

Where does one get one

[oblique heath]

heck yea

[prisma wave]

Hmm

[hot hull]

You making a master -> slave relationship?

[prisma wave]

Can't the slave store its own id somewhere

[hot hull]

Wouldn't that make the most sense?

[prisma wave]

And if you're creating a new one, give it an id to store

[oblique heath]

i was thinking I could try to pass the ID in on creation of the slave, because that makes the most sense yeah

[prisma wave]

Seems like the best way

[oblique heath]

but i'll have to get a little... weird

i think

like, to the degree of having to put a text file into the slave's directory when launching it

[prisma wave]

if id is stored somewhere:
tell master what id is
else:
ask master for a new id # this implies it's a new instance with no user specific data

[oblique heath]

actually now that i think about it

putting a text file wouldn't be that bad

maybe...

[prisma wave]

I can kinda see why github want to discourage "master", this is getting a bit weird 👀

"please give me a new id master"

[hot hull]

How is that weird

[old wyvern]

Lol

[oblique heath]

all of my slaves have user specific data from the moment they're created

[hot hull]

We back in the ancient times

[oblique heath]

since i bind a specific world directory to them via docker

[prisma wave]

Hmm

just create them with the id then?

If you're using docker pass the id as an environment variable or something

[old wyvern]

Are you planning to have the slave provide its own id to the master?

[oblique heath]

yeah further down the line

when the slave talks to the master it needs to give it's id

is how i have it set up

[oblique heath]

this is a very good idea

[old wyvern]

There would be an issue with that tho

[oblique heath]

i have no idea how to use environment variables right now, so i'll need to look into that

actually wait

[old wyvern]

Can the player modify the slaves source? What if you receive a request from some other machine with the id of one of your slaves?

[oblique heath]

the way i have it set up is a request to the server consists of an action, and the target of the action

so whatever ID is passed in is what the server acts on, essentially

[old wyvern]

Yes but so anyone can act as any other slave

[oblique heath]

it's a bit less orthagonal than that but thats the gist

yes

i suppose

[old wyvern]

Isnt that a vulnerability?

[oblique heath]

why would it be

[old wyvern]

Because then the point of an identity is lost

Wouldnt you want some form of authorization instead?

[oblique heath]

well there's no risk of using an identity maliciously

these are all servers running in a private network

[old wyvern]

So it accepts only internal connections?

[oblique heath]

yeah

[old wyvern]

Alright

[oblique heath]

not to mention my messaging service uses RSA keys so you'd need that in order to send a valid message in the first place

[onyx loom]

ok even here it doesnt do anything 🥲

it is running it tho so im really confused as to why its taking so long, its taking 10-30% of cpu

[lunar cypress]

[onyx loom]

and yes i did add the includes.set(blah blah) in jmh block

[half harness]

Any good scoreboard library? the one i currently use doesn't appear to work :/

[lunar cypress]

It should at least tell you what it's doing currently

are you up to date with the remote?

[onyx loom]

yeah i remember seeing that when i first ran it earlier

ah if u just updated then probably not

ill try that then

[lunar cypress]

I didn't change anything special

[onyx loom]

better than nothing

[lunar cypress]

oh wtf

did I forget to update the plugin version?

[onyx loom]

🥲

[lunar cypress]

Or did I accidentally revert it

[oblique heath]

do you know how i'd get the environment variable from within a java plugin

[lunar cypress]

Apparently I actually forgot it

[oblique heath]

is it a bona fide environment variable?

[lunar cypress]

I actually forgot it

pull again kali

[prisma wave]

System.getenv or something

https://twitter.com/ash2x3/status/1384986537167892483?s=19

Rust good

I would like to see java do this

[oblique heath]

😮

[onyx loom]

working now johnny lmao

[lunar cypress]

takes incredibly long for me too

@Benchmark
public void benchmarkArrayList(ArrayListState state) {
    state.arrayList.remove(randomIndex(state.arrayList.size()));
}
```this is literally it

It's called 1M times

[onyx loom]

all iterations were 20s each wtf

[lunar cypress]

arraylist what are you doing

[onyx loom]

its having a stroke

all of the time

deformed

[lunar cypress]

lmao my server takes 110 seconds each iteration

[onyx loom]

pain

[lunar cypress]

Oh I see why

I think

remove performs an array copy every time

[onyx loom]

o wth????

[lunar cypress]

Of all the elements that come after the index

[obtuse gale]

Why

[lunar cypress]

So that's a juicer with 1M elements

[obtuse gale]

That's so fucking dumb

[onyx loom]

lmfao

[obtuse gale]

That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard

No cap

[lunar cypress]

for shifting

[obtuse gale]

On arbitrary indexes or sequentially?

[lunar cypress]

random indices

[obtuse gale]

Ah okay it makes sense now lol

[lunar cypress]

Idk what the persistent equivalents do but they're more than 20 times faster

[onyx loom]

bruh

[prisma wave]

Clojure is just better

Undeniable

[onyx loom]

clearly

and kotlin 🥺

[lunar cypress]

wait kotlin removal is missing

for vectors

Oh no

probably errors somewhere

[onyx loom]

that mightve been the failed test then ig

[lunar cypress]

thought I'd caught them all

[onyx loom]

@lunar cypress

[lunar cypress]

The kotlin one is unresponsive for me

Idk what it's doing

[onyx loom]

this is quite interesting

[lunar cypress]

Ok can you try KotlinRemoval.benchmarkVector in isolation? Do you get any response?

For me it's stuck in warmup it seems

this may be one reason why this is taking so long

probably times out after 10 minutes... for 45 iterations....

wait no that can't be

probably over after the first one

[onyx loom]

ill leave it running while i have my dinner, hopefully it works

[lunar cypress]

It's copying too much lmao

[sweet cipher]

How do I add a dependency to a plugin with gradle and have it compile with it?

[ocean quartz]

Set the dependency as implementation and use the shadow plugin

[half harness]

implementation & shadowJar

[sweet cipher]

Oh Matt you are here, its for mf-gui lol

I tried that, and it says the class is not found

[half harness]

did you shade and relocate?

and use gradle shadowJar

[sweet cipher]

I'll show what I did

[ocean quartz]

Yeah make sure you're building with shadowJar

Also i am always here

[half harness]

no u aren't

[ocean quartz]

always

[old wyvern]

oh btw matt, any progress with the gradle plugin?

[half harness]

smh

also is the gradle plugin compat with build.gradle?

[ocean quartz]

Oh, uh, hmm, going to do that now
may or may not have forgotten many times

[sweet cipher]

repositories {
  mavenCentral()
}

dependencies {
    implementation "me.mattstudios.utils:matt-framework-gui:2.0.2"
}

apply plugin: 'com.github.johnrengelman.shadow'

shadowJar {
    relocate 'me.mattstudios.mfgui', 'me.masterofthefish'
}

[old wyvern]

xD

[half harness]

show us entire build.gradle

also, relocate it to like me.masterofthefish.mfgui

[ocean quartz]

And how are you building it?

[sweet cipher]

gradle jar

[sweet cipher]

I tried that

[ocean quartz]

That's the issue

[sweet cipher]

Oh

[ocean quartz]

You need to do gradle shadowJar

[sweet cipher]

ohh

Thank you

[onyx loom]

@lunar cypress this is totally fine right? LUL

[sweet cipher]

I've barely used gradle lol

[half harness]

:p

[onyx loom]

yeah kotlin one must be borked

[sweet cipher]

Thank you

[lunar cypress]

oof

I think if we want results for kotlin we need to adjust some things

[onyx loom]

just maybe 🥲

[lunar cypress]

I think something else is definitely wrong though, it can't just be the bad implementation

https://github.com/Kotlin/kotlinx.collections.immutable/blob/master/core/commonMain/src/implementations/immutableList/PersistentVector.kt#L147

can it?

[ocean quartz]

Codacy and the passive aggressive smile

[onyx loom]

🥲

[obtuse gale]

c:

[onyx loom]

that looks like its gonna be hella slow johnny, but it should atleast run yeah

[lunar cypress]

kotlin gets baby treatment

[ocean quartz]

Use explicit scoping instead of the default package private level
But I want it to be package private 😩

[lunar cypress]

50k removals instead of 1M?

🥲

[onyx loom]

lmao sounds good enough

[lunar cypress]

But that's bad because we can't properly compare it to the others anymore

[old wyvern]

Make all of them 50k

[lunar cypress]

idk how representative that is

still taking ages with 50k removals 🥲

jfc

90 seconds

nah man

[onyx loom]

it works with 50k?

[lunar cypress]

I think Kotlin's gotta sit this one out

yeah

You can try by changing the global constants in Global.java

But if the difference is that huge it will render the results practically useless

Well I guess there technically are only Kotlin, Java and PColl for this one

[old wyvern]

It is with the normal kotlin collections?

Or the persistent ones?

[onyx loom]

persistent

[lunar cypress]

persistent

[old wyvern]

oh

[prisma wave]

should've guessed

kotlin bad

[onyx loom]

lmao

2 seconds per 50k removals with kotlin removal 🥶

that is god awful

[prisma wave]

😡

[onyx loom]

Benchmark                      Mode  Cnt     Score    Error  Units
KotlinRemoval.benchmarkVector    ss   30  2311.979 ▒ 12.612  ms/op```

[lunar cypress]

include PCollectionsRemoval.benchmarkVector and JavaRemoval.benchmarkArrayList as well lol

God damn kotlin really has to fix this function

[old wyvern]

Um

What should we use for normal discord emotes?

Like 🇸

in bots

The normal format used for the server specific ones dont seem to work

msg @compact perch

[boreal needle]

you need the raw unicode

[onyx loom]

johnny its not letting me run it with that ☹️

[old wyvern]

ah

[obtuse gale]

Kotlin bad :)

[onyx loom]

no

[boreal needle]

https://github.com/AnIdiotsGuide/discordjs-bot-guide/blob/master/coding-guides/using-emojis.md#reacting-with-emojis seems relevant

[onyx loom]

pcollections and java bad

[obtuse gale]

Minor details

Same thing

[lunar cypress]

wdym

[onyx loom]

    includes.set(listOf(
        "KotlinRemoval.benchmarkVector",
        "PCollectionsRemoval.benchmarkVector",
        "JavaRemoval.benchmarkArrayList"
    ))```

https://paste.helpch.at/conocafoyu.js

am i stoopid or what

[lunar cypress]

verbosity.set("EXTRA")

it's time

oof

wtf is it doing

Excluding: com.github.johnnyjayjay.benchmarks.pcoll.PCollectionsRemoval.benchmarkVector, does not match PCollectionsRemoval.benchmarkVector,JavaRemoval.benchmarkArrayList,KotlinRemoval.benchmarkVector ???

Does it concatenate the includes??

[onyx loom]

lmao

[jovial warren]

unicode characters

[lunar cypress]

put an | between them instead, single string

[jovial warren]

they get converted automatically by Discord to their respective emotes

[unkempt tangle]

Anyone have experience with protobuf?

[old wyvern]

Yea got it bard

[jovial warren]

also, initial pass on fixing block breaking is out btw 🙂

[prisma wave]

😮

FRS?

[old wyvern]

Fastest, Reverse, Shortest

[prisma wave]

oh nice!

[lunar cypress]

i feel like this might get annoying for more experienced users, maybe you can add a command to set everything immediately

[old wyvern]

yes there is one

Using the quick flag sets to defaults and starts the game

[lunar cypress]

slash command? poggers

[old wyvern]

sadly discord-haskell doesnt suppourt it

and the author said he isnt adding it

[lunar cypress]

lol

[prisma wave]

you could do it "The Hard Way™️"

[lunar cypress]

btw

[old wyvern]

Yea, maybe later, should be a easy switch

[lunar cypress]

new discord interactions with buttons dropped apparently

[old wyvern]

There we go

[onyx loom]

Benchmark                                          Mode  Cnt     Score    Error  Units
c.g.j.b.java.JavaRemoval.benchmarkArrayList          ss   30    48.370 ▒  0.602  ms/op
c.g.j.b.kotlin.KotlinRemoval.benchmarkVector         ss   30  2335.234 ▒ 25.243  ms/op
c.g.j.b.pcoll.PCollectionsRemoval.benchmarkVector    ss   30    31.560 ▒  2.741  ms/op

what in the fuck kotlin

[old wyvern]

posted wrong ss before

[lunar cypress]

lol holy cow

[onyx loom]

thats 50k ops still btw

[jovial warren]

wait what's this?

[lunar cypress]

kotlin persistent collections

[jovial warren]

show me the way to this repository

[visual lava]

Does anyone know why in chat deluxe chat shows the place holder as %player% etc

[lunar cypress]

https://github.com/johnnyjayjay/persistent-data-structures-benchmark

[jovial warren]

take a star

[onyx loom]

bardy arent u using kotlin collections lib in krypton too? 😬

[jovial warren]

not persistent collections, no

[onyx loom]

ah k

[old wyvern]

https://wiki.bristermitten.me/deluxe-chat-shows-the-place-holder-as-%player%

[jovial warren]

if you mean kotlinx.collections.immutable

[onyx loom]

i do mean that yes

[obtuse gale]

is discord having a stroke with embeds or something?

[onyx loom]

yes 🥲

discord is dying

[old wyvern]

Persistent collections are a part of kotlinx.collections.immutable

[jovial warren]

yeah ik

[hot hull]

Yugi

[old wyvern]

Yea?

[hot hull]

Suggest that to be included into barry

[obtuse gale]

lol

[jovial warren]

I really gotta learn how JMH works lol

[hot hull]

Ofc other languages as well but yea

[onyx loom]

this looks pretty cool bardy cant lie

[old wyvern]

It suppourts all languages frost

I actually gave cube a js lib for this

But he's busy

[hot hull]

Bardy, quick question, how far/what stage is the plugin part of krypton at?

[onyx loom]

FJ to krypton when

[jovial warren]

ETA 2 hours

[old wyvern]

@quiet depot Could we get hasklash on here after update?

[jovial warren]

🥲

[jovial warren]

it's growing with the server

you can make plugins that send commands and stuff

[hot hull]

I want to debug/benchmark some plugins and krypton would be nice since I can add some methods to print execution time if I can access the current ticking plugins execution task

[jovial warren]

wdym by that last part?

[hot hull]

Issue is I'd have to convert the existing one to krypton, which is yikes

[lunar cypress]

theoretically they could run an instance themselves through the barry token if they don't want your bot

[old wyvern]

Yea that works

I dont really have a instance running myself tbh

[onyx loom]

yugi put hacks in the bot

[old wyvern]

the one on dev den is hosted on bms vps

[hot hull]

Basically I want to see how long an execution takes when a plugins task is ticked, if that makes any sense whatsoever

[jovial warren]

idk what you mean by "current ticking plugin's execution task"

[jovial warren]

ah right

Krypton doesn't have a sync scheduler btw

[steel heart]

=clash

[old wyvern]

Its not here conc

[hot hull]

Ah, not of much use then I presume

[old wyvern]

I can invite you to the test server if you want tho

lol

[dawn hinge]

It'll work eventually con

[jovial warren]

what exactly do you want to test?

there's an async scheduler that is backed by an SES

[hot hull]

Execution time for all tasks within a plugin

[jovial warren]

can Bukkit do that?

[hot hull]

Without actually adding it to each plugin individually myself

No clue

[jovial warren]

yeah I doubt anything can do that

since how would you measure that?

[hot hull]

No clue man

[hot hull]

Gonna make something better, and actually useful, might port to krypton eventually

And no, not world gen, something else

[jovial warren]

FJ is one of the rare plugins that might actually work in Krypton

since Krypton has a join event

called at a weird time though, and no way yet to set the actual message sent lol

[hot hull]

Code is on gh if you want to test kek

[jovial warren]

maybe I should add a way to do that

[hot hull]

I go now, one more day

[onyx loom]

what is it frosty

i cba to check

[jovial warren]

is it actually in Kotlin?

[hot hull]

Yes

[jovial warren]

I thought you converted it back

[hot hull]

Idk, can't remember

[jovial warren]

also, the testing for plugins has been very, very minimal

and when I say that, I mean I made a test plugin once to test a few basic things and that's it

haven't tested block updating yet

or like 99% of the rest of the API

on that note actually, if anyone fancies trying out the API, be my guest, I could do with some test subjects xD

[hot hull]

If it doesn't work, blame the user

[jovial warren]

exactly

[prisma wave]

https://img.bristermitten.me/chrome_YV5hnDefZG.png

not bad

[onyx loom]

ooo

stonks

[static zealot]

oh hell yeah @onyx loom I got banned 30 minutes xD

switching it here so I don't break the chain

[onyx loom]

didnt ask

[static zealot]

well I didn't ask either (if you asked)

[onyx loom]

o

fat uno reverse card there

[kind lantern]

can anyone help me with smth
it isnt exactly mc related tho

[obtuse gale]

depends

what is it

[old wyvern]

ayyy

[kind lantern]

discord related

can i dm u it

[obtuse gale]

no

[kind lantern]

ok

[obtuse gale]

what is it

[kind lantern]

LOL

so

[static zealot]

Let's not forget what our purpose in life is. To make Frosty a powerful man: #dev-general message

[kind lantern]

my main discord account got the verification thing

but i dont have a phone

number

i was wondering if someone could verify it for me

[obtuse gale]

uh I really doubt anyone with more than 3 brain cells will give their phone number to a complete stranger lol

[kind lantern]

rip

is there another way

[onyx loom]

what is with people coming in here and asking this

[obtuse gale]

idk

seems to be a recurring theme

[onyx loom]

yup

[fallen ruin]

Does anyone here know datapacks?

[obtuse gale]

what about them?

[fallen ruin]

I need help getting a scoreboard to work

tellraw @a [{"text":"TNS Sapling Counter sucessfully loaded!","color":"aqua"}]

team add default
scoreboard objectives add current_sb dummy

scoreboard objectives add SaplingsPlanted minecraft.used:oak_sapling 
scoreboard objectives add SaplingsPlanted minecraft.used:birch_sapling
scoreboard objectives add SaplingsPlanted minecraft.used:acacia_sapling
scoreboard objectives add SaplingsPlanted minecraft.used:jungle_sapling
scoreboard objectives add SaplingsPlanted minecraft.used:spruce_sapling
scoreboard objectives add SaplingsPlanted minecraft.used:dark_oak_sapling

scoreboard objectives add .SaplingsPlanted trigger


execute if entity @a[scores={.SaplingsPlanted=1..}] run scoreboard objectives setdisplay sidebar SaplingsPlanted

execute if score value current_sb matches ..-1 run scoreboard players set value current_sb -1```

I am trying to get one point added to the user if they place a sapling

[obtuse gale]

hm

tbh you might be better off asking in #minecraft lol or in the fabric or minecraft discords themselves, I personally doubt many people in here know that well enough

[dawn hinge]

I was thinking about giving prim my phone number, he left so nvm

[boreal needle]

youve been going for quite a while there conclure

do i need to brace myself

[steel heart]

Okay I need big brain help now.

Let's assume I make a combat log system which works like this:
People have the ability to pvp each other. Once someone pvp another player they both get into a combat status where they should not log out (if they do they lose their inventory). The combat status will be lasting for around 30 seconds. During that time the player who has it will not be able to go /spawn etc.

To implement it I thought about using epoch time and then compare between two different timestamps. Which would work good. Now let's say I want to also add a countdown on a sidebar scoreboard which would display how long time it's left till the combat status runs out. Of course in this case I would have to actually add some sort of repeating task. But then here's the two alternatives I could go with:

1. I only use the repeating task for the combat status and then keep the time comparison implementation to check whether the player is actually in combat status.

2. I don't use the time comparison implementation and instead we store a boolean for each player (or like in a set). Then whenever the player enters pvp we add them to the set and also start our repeating task. Once our repeating task is done, it will be responsible for removing the player from the combat status set. So here we would delegate all the work to that repeating task instead of depending on time comparison.

jesus

why did I write so much

[boreal needle]

it reading time

could you run a repeating task with a countdown builtin to it thatll disable itself and take them out of pvp mode when it hits 0

[steel heart]

yeah that would be option 2

[boreal needle]

oh yeah

imo that would work better

im not exactly reliable tho

[steel heart]

yeah it would remove awkwardness I guess

[half harness]

cba reading options, just make it a Set<UUID>, and in PlayerDeathEvent and PlayerQuitEvent check if the player is on the set, if it is, remove, and on quit, clear inventory.
When combat logged, make a BukkitScheduler#runTaskLater for 600 ticks, if the player is in the set, then "un-combat log", if not, then do nothing

oh for the countdown

[steel heart]

thats option 2 as well

[half harness]

you can make it a Map<UUID, Long>

okay

then option 2

[steel heart]

yeah but basically dont use time comparison

[boreal needle]

ayy i made a suggestion that might be actually somewhat correct for once

:D

[half harness]

you said repeating task in option 2

[steel heart]

yeah

[half harness]

do you mean runTaskTimer?

why timer?

[steel heart]

yes its a repeating task/ rescheduling task

[half harness]

actually you can just do Map<UUID, Map.Entry<Long, BukkitTask>>

then cancel task if player leaves and stuff

in case they rejoin

and the task is still in queue

[steel heart]

yeah though as of now I might go with a boolean per player or smtng

[half harness]

why not just runTaskLater

once

for 600 ticks later

[steel heart]

I'm implementing a visual countdown

[half harness]

placeholderapi?

[steel heart]

?

[half harness]

or ur own scoreboard

[steel heart]

uh my own lol

[half harness]

oh

[steel heart]

u want source?

lol

(its priv so I will have to inv u)

[half harness]

uh

[steel heart]

I am warning you

but ye

lol

[half harness]

👀

warning? 👀

[steel heart]

Sensitive programmers are recommended to not accept this invitation

[half harness]

o

source for the code in general, or the scoreboard source?

[steel heart]

all classes then

idk can u even share like a package only

[half harness]

no i meant like the sharing reason

like r u sharing so i can see scoreboard or the combat log

👀

[steel heart]

uh

[half harness]

lol

[steel heart]

I thought of sharing gh repo

[half harness]

i need scoreboard lib 😩

[prisma wave]

ok

[steel heart]

Kiteboard has an api I think

then we have spigot apis scoreboard interface

works fairly decent

[half harness]

isn't Kiteboard a plugin?

[steel heart]

ye

also api

[half harness]

i dont want to force users to use a specific scoreboard plugin ;-;

[steel heart]

true I guess

[ocean quartz]

O

[half harness]

rip Niall

[obtuse gale]

I mean it isn't that much different than making them with commands lol it's super reflective (in the sense that it's almost a 1:1 with cmds)

[half harness]

@ocean quartz

[steel heart]

lmao very true

[obtuse gale]

It's a bit eh though

[steel heart]

https://github.com/TigerHix/ScoreboardLib dkim

[half harness]

hm

i swear I've seen this before

[obtuse gale]

TigerHix hmm

Sounds familiar

[steel heart]

you know him?

[half harness]

does it support 1.8?

probably does

[ocean quartz]

Might not, that's very old

[half harness]

extremely outdated

[ocean quartz]

Oh wait

[half harness]

lol

[steel heart]

https://github.com/MinusKube/Netherboard found this

[half harness]

woah

[steel heart]

well else just ask Matt to do it

[forest pecan]

lol look at my computer science exam requirements

this is too funny

"No Penalty"

[steel heart]

lol

[half harness]

;-;

[forest pecan]

"= instead of == and vice versa"

[ocean quartz]

Dkim to a 6yo repository "extremely outdated"
Dkim to 1.8 (7yo) "Best version ever!!"

[steel heart]

ok oof dkim

[steel heart]

lolol

[half harness]

🥲

[obtuse gale]

How does that result in no penalty....

[forest pecan]

that aint a library or an api

thats a plugin

[half harness]

oh wait

it can be shaded

apparently

[forest pecan]

idk lmao

[obtuse gale]

That is literally a cause of bugs

[half harness]

jeez

stop spamming

[obtuse gale]

Lol did he get muted?

[forest pecan]

strangely, the exam is stricter about multiple choice

[half harness]

no

[forest pecan]

He did

LMAO

[half harness]

WIAT

LMAO

@obtuse gale

LOL

HE DID

[forest pecan]

He can't see this channel

lol

It's okay. We've all been there before

🥲

[ocean quartz]

Smh

[half harness]

🥲

i forgot why i got muted

oh wait yea

it was in #voice-talk

[forest pecan]

my mute wasn't even on purpose lmao

i used a command accidently

in the wrong channel

and discord wasnt registering the sending message

i was like wtf lmao

[steel heart]

lol

remember when efe got muted

[obtuse gale]

Yeah like right now

[half harness]

hes muted rn

[ocean quartz]

@obtuse gale Smh

Talk

[half harness]

well

not anymore

[obtuse gale]

Lol

[steel heart]

lol

[half harness]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/816438583631020052.png?v=1

[heady birch]

?

[forest pecan]

wait how did he get unmuted

@ocean quartz did you tell a mod

to unmute

[obtuse gale]

This kid is gonna get himself banned from discord...

[ocean quartz]

Sorry Niall I didn't mean to ping you, was trying to do @Niall because they were talking about Kiteboard

[ocean quartz]

Yes

[forest pecan]

Lemmo?

Gaby?

lol

[ocean quartz]

Robi

[heady birch]

No problemo

[forest pecan]

Oh

weirdchamp

lol

i dont see him in here often

[obtuse gale]

Well did you?

[half harness]

maven repo down

too old

[obtuse gale]

Why am I not surprised

[lunar cypress]

@old wyvern how big was your manjaro image on your boot device?

wtf

[forest pecan]

doesnt codemc provide free maven hosting

[lunar cypress]

I don't want to be dark blue

[obtuse gale]

Yooo

You evolved

[half harness]

big boi now

[obtuse gale]

I liked the T3 color :(

??

[steel heart]

@half harness

challenge

code a scoreboard lib

[half harness]

.

[steel heart]

no fr

easy fame

dkims awesome scoreboard

[forest pecan]

or code a media library

/s

[onyx loom]

mf-scoreboard

[forest pecan]

dkim-scoreboard

[half harness]

why did plusOne go to

[obtuse gale]

@ocean quartz 🌝

[steel heart]

mf-bukkit

when?

[onyx loom]

😳

[half harness]

wait

https://github.com/TigerHix/ScoreboardLib/ can't i just build this myself

[ocean quartz]

no
I make libs based on things I'd use, doubt i'd ever use scoreboards, they are pretty annoying lol

[onyx loom]

kek

[obtuse gale]

Lol

[jovial warren]

https://imgflip.com/i/56r5cf

[forest pecan]

they are annoying cause they flash

right

[steel heart]

[forest pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/who-tf-asked-nasas-radar-dish-who-asked-nobody-asked-gif-17675657

lol

[ocean quartz]

No, they are just awkward, who likes playing with a giant thing on the right size, it feels out of place

[jovial warren]

stfu pulse nobody asked you to talk lol

[forest pecan]

lmao

[half harness]

its not giant

maybe if ur gui scale is on auto

then yea

[steel heart]

👀

[half harness]

but no one plays with that

[jovial warren]

what is wrong with Bukkit's scoreboard system btw?

[half harness]

everythings huge

[jovial warren]

I wanna know so I can fix it in Krypton

[ocean quartz]

Sorry, humongous

[steel heart]

bbg tbf

the javadoccing is terrible

like

[jovial warren]

I've seen it break 100 times over

[steel heart]

d;spigot Scoreboard#registerEntry

[ruby crater]

org.bukkit.scoreboard.Score#getScoreboard

@Nullable
Scoreboard getScoreboard()```

Description:

Gets the scoreboard for the associated objective.

Returns:

the owning objective's scoreboard, or null if it has been unregistered

Page 0 • Requested by: Abow Conclure • spigot

[obtuse gale]

I never had issues with it though

[steel heart]

d;spigot Scoreboard#getEntry

[ruby crater]

org.bukkit.scoreboard.Score#getScore

int getScore()
throws IllegalStateException```

Description:

Gets the current score

Returns:

the current score

Throws:

IllegalStateException - if the associated objective has been unregistered

Page 0 • Requested by: Abow Conclure • spigot

[obtuse gale]

🤷

[steel heart]

wait where is it

[half harness]

takes like a tenth of my screen

[steel heart]

d;spigot Objective#registerEntry

[ruby crater]

org.bukkit.scoreboard.Objective#setRenderType

void setRenderType(@NotNull RenderType renderType)
throws IllegalStateException```

Description:

Sets manner in which this objective will be rendered.

Parameters:

renderType - new render type

Throws:

IllegalStateException - if this objective has been unregistered

Page 0 • Requested by: Abow Conclure • spigot

[steel heart]

here

wait

wat

[forest pecan]

just like my dick

[onyx loom]

ha!

[jovial warren]

I want a way that plugins such as KiteBoard and FeatherBoard could not have to use NMS

[steel heart]

anyways it contains stupid shit like "oh this returns the score" when the method says getScore

I guess no surprise but still annoying as hell

[forest pecan]

do you guys javadoc getters/setters lol

[ocean quartz]

Look how much cluster you have on your screen, giant scoreboard, giant bossbar, giant left thingy that is basically useless

[half harness]

its not giant

[steel heart]

pulse if it needs

[onyx loom]

keystrokes mod kekw

[half harness]

and well yea the memory thing is useless idk why i have it

[ocean quartz]

But it is, you lose like 20% of your screen with just hud

[onyx loom]

i need to see my own key strokes !!!

[forest pecan]

kaliber did you buy every plugin possible

lol

[onyx loom]

eh

[half harness]

lol

[onyx loom]

wym

[forest pecan]

when i see your roles

[half harness]

idea: make Tab, Teams, and Scoreboard be different things

[forest pecan]

i see like 20

[onyx loom]

oh right

[ocean quartz]

Idea: remove scoreboards

[onyx loom]

well ive bought all of clips plugins as i used to have a server

• voteparty

[jovial warren]

also, you can say goodbye to BS like Bukkit.createScoreboard or whatever it is because I think I'm just gonna make all the scoreboard stuff data classes

[half harness]

always confuses me how scoreboards and tabs are the same thing sorta

[forest pecan]

oh lmao

[onyx loom]

im only missing guilds role ☹️

[steel heart]

its actually an instance method ScoreboardManager#getNewScoreboard()

[half harness]

jeez

[onyx loom]

lmfao

[jovial warren]

👀

[steel heart]

BM bruh

my ears

[prisma wave]

❤️

[jovial warren]

Bukkit? instance methods? what are those?

[forest pecan]

that is hilarious

lmaoo

[steel heart]

lmao

[ocean quartz]

Look at that beautiful jaw line

[prisma wave]

what a chad

[lunar cypress]

😮

[steel heart]

though you'd have to call Bukkit.getScoreboardManager() iirc

so still not pog

[jovial warren]

just not true

[prisma wave]

😮

[steel heart]

johnny thats a thing?

[static zealot]

o

[steel heart]

wew

[lunar cypress]

yes

[steel heart]

sheeesh

[onyx loom]

PLEASE why are you trying to DENY the FACTS

[static zealot]

embeds?

or what's that?

[lunar cypress]

nope

[prisma wave]

in denial

[forest pecan]

cause its bardy

lol

[steel heart]

new api feature 😮

[static zealot]

did they actually add buttons? nice

[distant sun]

how

[lunar cypress]

it's "components"

[jovial warren]

wat

how

how are those facts

[lunar cypress]

{"content": "hi",
 "nonsense": true,
"components": [{"type": 1, "components": [{"type": 2, "style": 1, "custom_id": "test", "label": "Test Button"}]}]}```

[onyx loom]

because KRYPTON bad NMS GOOD

[lunar cypress]

https://gist.github.com/thehackerboi69github/1ac37938bafda5bf9bd3cb833d7b93dc also need to do this to see

[jovial warren]

Krypton good NMS bad

that's just facts

[ocean quartz]

You delete the project, change it to gradle and do gradlew shadowJar

[jovial warren]

even if Krypton is trash, at least it's not half obfuscated and filled with inconsistencies that make you go mad

[ocean quartz]

Lol

[steel heart]

ah

[prisma wave]

so it's a sticker?

[lunar cypress]

no

actual button

[prisma wave]

😮

[forest pecan]

Krypton bad Kryptonite good

[onyx loom]

what is nonsense lol

[lunar cypress]

If you click it the bot receives an event

[steel heart]

oo

thats actually useful

[lunar cypress]

oh that was to confirm it only registered correct params lmao

because I wasn't sure initially if this was real

[distant sun]

does jda have that or is a beta feature?

[jovial warren]

what a name lol

[jovial warren]

'tis likely a beta feature

[lunar cypress]

not even beta or alpha

It's live, but completely undocumented

also only available in dev mode

[steel heart]

wait so normal users wont see a thing?

[lunar cypress]

(not the regular dev mode)

so far yes

But they'll likely introduce it officially in the near future

[steel heart]

very nice

[lavish notch]

@lunar cypress Can buttons be made by users or only bot accounts?

[surreal quarry]

buttons 👀

[lavish notch]

@surreal quarry

[surreal quarry]

ooo

sexy

[arctic juniper]

https://i.imgur.com/ky0LJNm.png

[half harness]

how do i fix this...

[half harness]

what file?

[onyx loom]

idk

all of them 🙃

[half harness]

;-;

[ocean quartz]

do smaller commits

[lunar cypress]

bots

[lavish notch]

How do I create the buttons through the bot?

[lunar cypress]

it's in the same category as slash commands

I sent an example earlier

need to send it to the create message endpoint

[lavish notch]

Does this have to be done directly with the discord api or is there any wrappers that support it?

[spring canyon]

The feature is very new so it's unlikely that any big wrapper already implemented it

[steel heart]

Imagine if that wasn’t the case lol

[lunar cypress]

probably gonna begin implementing it for discljord soon

[old wyvern]

um

ghost ping?

oh nvm

found the msg

[old wyvern]

I think like 12-14 gbs

Atleast that was the consumed size on the usb

Altho rufus could have partitioned more than it needed, so not fully sure

Wait

no

only 2.6 Gb

[obtuse gale]

There's the "dumb fixes" Fefo

And the "idek what this has anymore" Fefo

[ocean quartz]

Holy
tbh i've been there

[obtuse gale]

actually I believe I have done more

let me find it

[old wyvern]

Holy

Also

dark blue johnny

lol

Fefo be typing a paragraph

[obtuse gale]

I believe this is the commit with the most changes I ever did (basically some sort of rewrite)
5,136 additions and 2,360 deletions. https://github.com/Fefo6644/LuckyCrates/commit/3bbfed773bae9a92bee6b86aa52983cdf265b922

someone shoot me in the face lol

[half harness]

:/ so i just removed VCS and readded, but now its making be commit every file

it completely ignores gitignore

and I already googled

I think my file got corrupted because of my stupid computer bluescreening

😦

how do I get rid of all that from being committed?

[old wyvern]

Add the gitignore to the change list and try commiting

[sweet cipher]

Remove them from your plugin

[half harness]

wdym

it already is

[old wyvern]

The gitignore file

[old wyvern]

Its not selected for commit

It has changes

[half harness]

oh

hm

wait

[lunar cypress]

ok that makes more sense, currently all image flash tools just write like one 140MB file though lol

for me

and idk why

[half harness]

makes me pull

[old wyvern]

Which one did you use?

[half harness]

and it fails

[jovial warren]

oh btw, I'm currently working on doing a major refactor to Krypton, and I was just thinking, if I want to switch to the style where you have no blank lines between the header and the first property (I'm keeping a blank line in there if the first element is a function), should this also apply to enums?

e.g. ```kotlin
enum class MyEnum {
VALUE_ONE,
VALUE_TWO
}

[steel heart]

Ye

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/wqTz.gif

[half harness]

From https://github.com/dkim19375/Bedwars

• branch master -> FETCH_HEAD
  fatal: refusing to merge unrelated histories

I just did git pull https://github.com/dkim19375/Bedwars.git master

[jovial warren]

is your local history different from your remote history?

[half harness]

uh

i have no clue

[lunar cypress]

used the latest image and tried with both rufus and etcher

[half harness]

i just deleted .git

[lunar cypress]

I presume the usb drive is broken somehow

But idk how to fix it

It works normal outside of that

But after flashing it shows up as "Removable usb drive" or something

[old wyvern]

Try formatting it beforehand

[lunar cypress]

Did

[old wyvern]

It does for me as well

Thats fine

That depends on the name you gave in rufus while burning

Did you check if it shows up in the boot menu?

[half harness]

okay

ill just store the files

and then git clone

[lunar cypress]

I did not however I'm pretty certain that one 140MB file can't be valid

[old wyvern]

Where did you see the 140 mb from?

[lunar cypress]

explorer

[old wyvern]

btw when I connected this usb on windows it didnt show me the whole drive

Just part of it

It only shows the whole thing on linux

I assume it has something to do with the filesystem type

[lunar cypress]

oh, maybe

pretty sure it was different for mint though

[half harness]

um

new issue

[old wyvern]

Not really sure, but worth a shot I think

[half harness]

how do i commit my files to github? nothing on the changelist...

[old wyvern]

Is the gitignore file present?

[half harness]

yes

# Project exclude paths
/.gradle/
/.idea/

[old wyvern]

open a terminal in the project directory and do git add .

[half harness]

i did

fatal: not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git

[old wyvern]

huh

Are you sure you did it in the correct directory?

[half harness]

uhh i think so

oh wait

i dont think so

[steel heart]

lmao

[half harness]

now theres a new folder

called Bedwars

ill try pasting it

into the actual project dir

welp

uh

how do i change the git root

[old wyvern]

Bruh

Did you clone into your project directory?

[half harness]

maybe

[obtuse gale]

...

[old wyvern]

🤦‍♂️

[half harness]

what

What

[obtuse gale]

how do you not know

[old wyvern]

cloning creates a directory for the repository

[half harness]

oh

then how do i clone

in the project

thing

[old wyvern]

smh

[half harness]

ok ima try again

so

what do i do

okay

ima delete the dir

um

ok it works now

argh

this was annoying

😦

aw cmon

hauisjkndwasdj

[forest pecan]

dkim u suck

[obtuse gale]

legit

[half harness]

;-;

[forest pecan]

lmfao

[half harness]

now intellij doesn't want to reload gradle

intellij whyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[forest pecan]

u suck

Tofpu ugly bird too

🐦

[dawn hinge]

pulls maven card

[half harness]

ew maven

[dawn hinge]

Pulse

[forest pecan]

Tofpu you are an ugly bird!

[dawn hinge]

That's just harassment at this point

🥲

[forest pecan]

Never

Always ugly!

[dawn hinge]

🙁

[forest pecan]

🙂

[dawn hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/silent-tears-crying-sad-gif-10045699

[forest pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/bigstupidgrin-big-stupid-grin-gif-5520081