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cinder flare
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clip poopy coder

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๐Ÿ’ฉ

old wyvern
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Is dc os?

prisma wave
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I don't think the point of wayland is speed

quiet depot
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his newer plugins are considerably better

onyx loom
old wyvern
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Oh

cinder flare
old wyvern
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Lol

quiet depot
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unfortunately 11 weeks of school starts for me tomorrow

old wyvern
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Rip

cinder flare
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starts???

onyx loom
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๐Ÿ˜ฉ

cinder flare
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bro i have two weeks and I'm free for 4 months

pale shell
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piggy you have schooL?

old wyvern
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๐Ÿฅฒ

quiet depot
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just had a two week holiday star

old wyvern
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I havent had a break since last August half

quiet depot
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we get our holidays throughout the year, 2 weeks between each term, then 6 weeks at the end

pale shell
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i swear youre like 24 piggy

cinder flare
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when's the fucking end

quiet depot
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christmas

cinder flare
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what

old wyvern
cinder flare
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your semesters aren't centered around summer?

quiet depot
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idiot

prisma wave
quiet depot
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lol

cinder flare
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did you just call me an idiot wtf

quiet depot
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sorry for calling you an idiot but cmon

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hemispheres

pale shell
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bm, do you have to come to mainland to do your exams? kekw

cinder flare
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cmon??

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oh I see

old wyvern
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Come on

quiet depot
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lol

cinder flare
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snowy in summer

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hmm

quiet depot
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well I don't actually get snow where I live but yes

old wyvern
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cmon

old wyvern
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Simon

pale shell
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aussies are weird

old wyvern
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Simon Peyton

prisma wave
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Simon

pale shell
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Simon

cinder flare
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yeah I think the problem is australia

old wyvern
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Simon Peyton Jones

quiet depot
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i always read that as simon peyote jones

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whole different meaning

old wyvern
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xD

cinder flare
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that's what he was on when he invented haskell

quiet depot
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probably

old wyvern
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lol

quiet depot
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but yeah star

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still centered around summer

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we just have summer at a different time

cinder flare
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yeah that makes sense

old wyvern
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I just realized

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Stars nick

cinder flare
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just very confusing to think about for me lol

old wyvern
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Is valid elara

cinder flare
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cause I'm almost done!

quiet depot
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imo it makes more sense

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school starts at the beginning of the year and ends at the end of the year

cinder flare
quiet depot
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unlike for you it starts in the middle and ends in the middle of next year

old wyvern
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๐Ÿ˜Œ

prisma wave
cinder flare
prisma wave
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oh I guess

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if m i s m are variables or whatever

cinder flare
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so the halfway point is still the end of the year

old wyvern
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Was atleast, not sure if it still will be

cinder flare
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we just have a nice hole in the middle

old wyvern
onyx loom
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valid javascript too ๐Ÿ˜Œ

old wyvern
cinder flare
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of the year!

old wyvern
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xD

quiet depot
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I think I also get study breaks

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where you like get two weeks off during exams

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not sure yet

cinder flare
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oh

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we don't have those

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we just have one week of fall break and one week of spring break

quiet depot
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that's such an oof

cinder flare
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then like 3/4 weeks off in christmas time

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well we don't actually have classes during finals

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if that's what you're referring to

quiet depot
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no clue

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american terminology eludes me

cinder flare
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the final exams

quiet depot
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"finals" specifically

cinder flare
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are called finals

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last week of the semester

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we don't have actual classes, just final exams

quiet depot
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year 12 over here ends in term 3, then you come back and keep doing exams when they're scheduled

cinder flare
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wtf

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yeah once you finish high school, you get the summer off obviously

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then you start in like fall semester of uni if you're going

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then 4 week break

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then spring semester of uni

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the tests are independent

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and per class

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whatever they want them to be actually!

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so like my web dev final is a group project where we barely have to do anything

quiet depot
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how many subjects are you doing at any one time in uni?

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like how many units

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I think that's the word

cinder flare
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i have 5 classes on average

quiet depot
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and 1 of those is a gen ed?

cinder flare
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doesn't have to be

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you can do whatever you want

quiet depot
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right

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over here I think it's 4

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and obviously no gen ed

cinder flare
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you just have a list of classes that you must complete by the time you do 8 semesters to get your degree

quiet depot
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oh

cinder flare
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like im not taking any gen eds this semester

quiet depot
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anyone crazy do it all in one semester?

cinder flare
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you can only take 21 credit hours if you're insane

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each class is worth ~3 credit hours

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some classes, like calc are every single day so it's worth 4 credit hours

old wyvern
cinder flare
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and some classes like science have "labs", which are basically additional classes that you have to take the same semester you're taking that science class

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so really you can only do 7 classes max a semester

old wyvern
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Unless you pick a lot of 1 credit courses ?

cinder flare
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there are like, no 2 credit courses

old wyvern
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xD

cinder flare
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there are only like 3 1 credit courses

old wyvern
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We have a few here

quiet depot
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seeing as you were talking about scholarships earlier, I took a look at my uni's scholarships

cinder flare
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they're usually easy online classes that have no work load

quiet depot
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we definitely don't have anything like you do

cinder flare
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wdym

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like merit based?

quiet depot
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wym merit based?

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like on academic achievement?

cinder flare
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yeah

quiet depot
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yeah there's those

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the difference is fiscal

cinder flare
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like I got my scholarship cause I got a 3.9 GPA and a 33 on the ACT

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oh I see

hot hull
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3.9

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pathetic

cinder flare
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well isn't college not a bazillion dollars?

quiet depot
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is that low?

cinder flare
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the max is 4.0

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lmao

quiet depot
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star it's about 30k for a degree I think

hot hull
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oh kek

old wyvern
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Gpa out of 4

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Americans

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God

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๐Ÿฅฒ

cinder flare
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Well A = 4.0, B = 3.0, C = 2.0, D = 1.0, and F = 0

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that's how you calculate

hot hull
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How much % do you need on a test to get an A?

old wyvern
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Thats feels so wrong

quiet depot
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A in all of your classes?

ocean quartz
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30k for a degree holy

cinder flare
cinder flare
quiet depot
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OOF

cinder flare
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and in high school you take 8 classes

hot hull
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here an A is around 88% or above

cinder flare
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and you average them out

quiet depot
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A is usually 75% or 80% here

cinder flare
hot hull
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Yes

old wyvern
hot hull
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It's actually funny how low some places have it as

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You need atleast 50% to not get an F here

cinder flare
quiet depot
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50%+ is a C

cinder flare
hot hull
cinder flare
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you need a 94% to get an A here

quiet depot
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maybe we mark harder

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or maybe it's just easier over here

cinder flare
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maybe but holy cow

hot hull
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nah, your education system is just dumb

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Same as americas, but that's another story

cinder flare
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hey

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im not poor so it doesn't affect me!

quiet depot
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frosty I'd rather this than pay like 80% of my income as tax

cinder flare
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๐Ÿ‘€

hot hull
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Fair enough lmao

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Atleast it's not 5k to ride the weewoo wagon

quiet depot
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star europeans get a bunch of "free" shit because their taxes are astronomically high

cinder flare
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hey my country could pay for like, 100% of college if we cut back on our military budget by like, 1/3

hot hull
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22% tax is on buying groceries

cinder flare
hot hull
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It's higher for paychecks, not sure what exact % tho

ocean quartz
old wyvern
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Wut

cinder flare
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we already do it with Kindergarten through High School

old wyvern
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God

onyx loom
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jesus

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ours is 20%

old wyvern
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1/5 as taxes

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Thats cruel

cinder flare
hot hull
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It's actually not bad considering what you get in return

cinder flare
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6% gang nice

onyx loom
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Health

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care

ocean quartz
cinder flare
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:(

hot hull
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You broke a leg? That'll be 160k :kek:

cinder flare
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i have insurance

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it's only like, half of my total money

old wyvern
hot hull
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I love seeing those bills which have like 80k just for the bed cause you stayed a few nights in the hospital

serene cave
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Hello

cinder flare
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oh no the taxes summoned our overlord

serene cave
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Did anyone say taxes

quiet depot
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GST tax over here (which is added onto a lot of foods, but not all) is 10%

ocean quartz
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My father in law had to stay in the hospital for 2 days, with insurance, it costed 22k, he could have flied to here got treated and fly back and it'd still cost him less than half

old wyvern
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No tax life

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๐Ÿ˜Œ

serene cave
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I'm raising taxes in the US by 50%

onyx loom
serene cave
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I need to pay for my private jet

cinder flare
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but what do we get?

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oh

serene cave
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you get less money

ocean quartz
quiet depot
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trump what about american's debt

cinder flare
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man this is the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe even ever

quiet depot
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37th from the bottom more like

cinder flare
serene cave
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we don't care about american debt

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trump care

cinder flare
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you get good shit if you can afford to pay for it

serene cave
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it cares for trump

ocean quartz
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Lmao

cinder flare
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if not, sucks to be you

old wyvern
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Vote trump

serene cave
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sucks to not be trump ig

quiet depot
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trump did you buy dogecoin

old wyvern
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Et

serene cave
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trump care best

cinder flare
ocean quartz
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Treatment is a dlc in the US

serene cave
old wyvern
cinder flare
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a legendary $200!

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and a common $10k

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very sad

serene cave
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trump care is the best care!

old wyvern
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Epic $50k

onyx loom
# ocean quartz Ranked 37th in the world

ah, it all makes sense now
one of the factors for ranking healthcare ๐Ÿฅฒ
The fairness and equity on the delivery of healthcare in a way that poor households donโ€™t carry with a higher expense than they can afford.

old wyvern
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Trump care package

cinder flare
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no no no, the higher the rarity the less debt you get

half harness
serene cave
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Yes because it

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cares for trump

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trump care

cinder flare
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that's not even a factor bro

hot hull
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Also price of insulin is also a kek

quiet depot
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murica spends like 800 bil on military right?

half harness
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hi piggy

quiet depot
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aus spends like 30 bil oof

prisma wave
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Hello trump

serene cave
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Hello Bridget Monad

old wyvern
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Hello trump

cinder flare
hot hull
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Piggy, stupidity is what that's called

old wyvern
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God

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I cant type

half harness
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why does no one use stickers ๐Ÿ˜”

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only glare does

cinder flare
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cause they're fucking huge

serene cave
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Because you're poor

quiet depot
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because they cost money don't they?

cinder flare
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they're like embeds

half harness
old wyvern
half harness
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r u talking about stickers

old wyvern
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Because they look shit

onyx loom
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but if they dont pay 800 bil into the military world war 3 will happen !!!

quiet depot
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yes stickers

onyx loom
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and lose !!!

quiet depot
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don't stickers cost money

old wyvern
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Like look at that

half harness
quiet depot
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cube said they cost money

half harness
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no

old wyvern
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One package is free piggy

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There are paid ones

quiet depot
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idek how to use stickers

half harness
old wyvern
hot hull
serene cave
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I have removed stickers

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in my country

half harness
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im in america though

serene cave
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they are too ugly

half harness
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and i have stickers

old wyvern
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Get on a vpn, activate stickers, then youll get it

half harness
serene cave
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that means you are an illegal immigrant

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lets export you to mexico

half harness
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imagine not putting code in console

half harness
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to get perm stickers

serene cave
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dkim

half harness
serene cave
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please aboard the bus

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we are sending you back to your homeland

old wyvern
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Fortrump

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Trumpnite

cinder flare
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Very sad, Donald Trump does not have embed perms

quiet depot
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is SAT the same thing as gpa star?

cinder flare
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no

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SAT and ACT are standardized tests

serene cave
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piggy give me embed perms

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i am donalod

quiet depot
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just trying to understand this table

serene cave
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i am the president of the united states of america

quiet depot
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and I'm supreme leader #4 of HelpChat

serene cave
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so give me embed because i am the president of the united states of america

quiet depot
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my dad literally owns microsoft i will get your minecraft account banned kid

serene cave
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fuck

cinder flare
# quiet depot just trying to understand this table

okay so in order we have IB -> International Baccalaureate classes, which are basically like weird AP classes that are harder? (not really sure how to count them), then we have SAT scores combined with GPA's, 1600 is the best you can get so 1440 is pretty high. Next is ACT score which is out of 36, I think only like 5% of people get a 31 or better?, then we have AP score, which are essentially classes that are taught like college classes and you take a test at the end of the year and get a score from 0-4, 4 being the best possible.

quiet depot
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i see

cinder flare
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I dunno why it only shows the GPA and SATs together

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in certain parts of the country, such as my own, we use the ACT and your GPA to calculate scholarships

quiet depot
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are scholarships guaranteed?

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over here I think they're just luck of the draw

cinder flare
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wdym

lean elbow
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can i paste code here cus i need help with code i have been trying to finish for like a week

quiet depot
serene cave
lean elbow
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ok ty

quiet depot
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thanks donnie

serene cave
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slow

cinder flare
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merit-based scholarships are chosen essentially out of the best people that apply

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so like a mixture of all those factors

serene cave
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piggy ur so slow

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smh

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donnie was faster

lean elbow
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donnie haha

cinder flare
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and you need to keep a certain uni GPA usually to keep your scholarship

quiet depot
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i don't think i'm gonna be able to get a scholarship

cinder flare
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all the other ones are essentially just random yeah

serene cave
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i will give you one

cinder flare
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oh nice

quiet depot
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donald if i come to the us i'm taking your room in the whitehouse

serene cave
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i will give you a small loan of a million dollars

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๐Ÿ˜…

forest pecan
cinder flare
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what in the

regal gale
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What a legend

forest pecan
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lol

regal gale
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That dude's E-ing on nearly all the language codes exist on earth

forest pecan
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Yeah

cinder flare
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I've got the full gauntlet of productivity open bois

prisma wave
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those new icons are hot

distant sun
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ikr

cinder flare
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the office ones or the adobe ones?

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cause I honestly miss the old adobe ones

static zealot
cinder flare
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very true

pale shell
cinder flare
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luckily you only have to look at it for like, half a second every once in a while

static zealot
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half a second if you have a good pc

cinder flare
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oh no

static zealot
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I have to spend 5 seconds looking at it

cinder flare
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now that is pain

pale shell
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idk how ya'll on 2021

ocean quartz
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I also miss the old one

pale shell
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i set the shortcut to 2021 and it loads 2020

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omg i can't type

cinder flare
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just uninstall the old one?

pale shell
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cant you keep it?

cinder flare
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why would you

ocean quartz
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Tbh cs2 had the best logo

cinder flare
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what app is that?

ocean quartz
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Photoshop

cinder flare
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no fucking way

ocean quartz
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Youngins

obtuse gale
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i need help with DeluxeMenus

pale shell
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thonking matt

ocean quartz
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Yeah?

cinder flare
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I quite like the newest two

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though CS3 was not bad

pale shell
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I didn't know they were like that

cinder flare
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actually neither was CS6

ocean quartz
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First time i used photoshop was v7

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It was awful lmao

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I remember when cc was released, the changes were insane

cinder flare
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CS4 lacked contrast, CS5 was too in your face and 3d, Version 1-5 was a little weird, reminds me of Fefo's pfp, i honestly kinda like the feather icon ngl, it could definitely be modernized and I think I would love it

ocean quartz
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CS5 was in the era that every company thought 3d icons were hot

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Chrome for example

cinder flare
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oh dear god

ocean quartz
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Nah, flat are better

pale shell
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I mean, if it's executed well then it's good.

ocean quartz
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Show me one 3d logo that is good

cinder flare
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I quite like the current generation

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look at all those pretty icons

pale shell
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why's it going downwards?

cinder flare
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because my taskbar is on the right side of my screen

pale shell
cinder flare
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it uses less space

pale shell
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that triggers me

cinder flare
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and vertical space is much more important than horizontal

pale shell
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it uses the same amount of space

cinder flare
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I can see more messages in discord, I can read more of an article at a time

ocean quartz
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I am actually sad, the IJ logo looks so nice on the taskbar, but I can't handle the original taskbar and the small one looks like shit

cinder flare
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It does not, you can fit less icons vertically than horizontally, you know how monitor resolutions are like 1920x1080?

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have you tried a vertical bar matt?

static zealot
cinder flare
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or, what don't you like about the normal taskbar

static zealot
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does this trigger you?

pale shell
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there's no task bar?

cinder flare
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it's on the top lmao

ocean quartz
pale shell
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oh

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that's clean

cinder flare
pale shell
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It blends in with the sky.

cinder flare
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cause I was also mad about the size of the bottom too

static zealot
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well that was the idea. to match the theme

pale shell
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I like it, alot.

static zealot
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I'm thinking of making it a bit more transparent

ocean quartz
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Original

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The way i use

cinder flare
pale shell
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its the same?

static zealot
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ah nice Matt xD

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just make icons smaller

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that's all you need

cinder flare
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yeah you literally can

ocean quartz
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It's smaller, the images are just the same size there

pale shell
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how did you get those different IJ taskbar icons

cinder flare
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no I mean you can make the icons smaller without using the minified taskbar

ocean quartz
cinder flare
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the top one is Ultimate, the bottom one is Community lol

ocean quartz
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The difference is big

cinder flare
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huh

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I feel it'd be too small to see clearly

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One thing I think Windows does have going for it is that it's perfectly balanced

static zealot
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I've gotten used to centered icons and I like it very much. It will be very hard for me to get used with the old ways

cinder flare
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I honestly tend to like the Windows WM more than any on linux

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and I know that's a bold statement lol

ocean quartz
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Windows is pretty nice

static zealot
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also @pale shell I actually don't keep the taskbar at the top. This is how it usually is even tho I like it at the top its very very hard for me to get used to it https://i.imgur.com/iEeo8CN.png

ocean quartz
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But don't let the "linux is the way for productivity" fanboys listen

static zealot
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I still think it looks nice

cinder flare
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but with my wallpaper engine background, my translucent taskbar, icons being cute, the font being right on the system, etc.

static zealot
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it complements the darkness

pale shell
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I mean top looks better to me

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It blends in with the sky

static zealot
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yeah just hard to get used to it

cinder flare
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it really makes a difference working in a pretty environment

pale shell
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gotcha

cinder flare
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I just wish wish wish so bad that Windows had all of the linux backbone

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we've got WSL which is pretty good

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but like, all the way would be a dream come true

static zealot
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even tho the putting an app into task bar animation looks way cleaner when it goes to the top

pale shell
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I don't get how Linux got so popular to be honest.

cinder flare
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or maybe even just port the Windows desktop environment to linux haha

static zealot
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1 sec will make a gif

pale shell
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Windows does stuff better in my person opinion, but I guess other people prefer different systems. But that's ok, we're all unique!

cinder flare
ocean quartz
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This is my wallpaper on the right side

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It's a gif

cinder flare
arctic juniper
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I don't have a wallpaper

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it's just black

cinder flare
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Just the frontend

arctic juniper
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never set it

pale shell
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hm

static zealot
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wait how do you put different wallpapers @ocean quartz ?

pale shell
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I use default windows background

static zealot
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is it an app?

arctic juniper
pale shell
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wall paper engine

cinder flare
static zealot
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oh

pale shell
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my background is from the company who built my pc

ocean quartz
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Yeah wallpaper engine, but you can put different wallpaper on different monitors without it, they just can't be gifs

ocean quartz
pale shell
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i cant be asked to change it because each time it goes back they gotta change it back

static zealot
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oh didn't know that and I've tried with just windows

ocean quartz
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This is my main monitor

pale shell
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how many monitors you got

ocean quartz
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2

arctic juniper
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@ocean quartz got a png of that?

ocean quartz
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I can search just a sec

pale shell
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I keep wanting 3 but idk if it's worth it

arctic juniper
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where do you find these?

ocean quartz
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Nah, i feel like 3 is too much

ocean quartz
pale shell
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I mean the only reason I'd have 3 is to be like... "look how much money i got" in reality.

cinder flare
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one primary for games and whatever I'm looking at, one for discord, and one for chrome

static zealot
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tell me that the animations for the second one are not cleaner

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even tho they are the same

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lmao

pale shell
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it looks like it's being sucked away

static zealot
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also for me 2 would be enough if both of them would be the size of my main but unfortunately my laptop monitor is almost half the main one

ocean quartz
pale shell
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I need to optimise this code more

static zealot
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bcz I usually either do 2 or 3 things at a time. Discord, Browser (maybe 2 tabs) and IJ or something like that

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so with 2 big ones I'd just split discord and browser

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but I cant' since I use IJ on my main and the other one is small

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I have to tab out every time

pale shell
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I got a question, lets say i was filling an area with fawe but it already had blocks in there will there be a performance difference if i was to not reset if the area is full already?

arctic juniper
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I don't think so

ocean quartz
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Heyo

gusty glen
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is there any performance comparison between fawe, awe and bukkit replace?

arctic juniper
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awe is shittier in my experience

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well, at least was 2 years ago

#

what do you mean by bukkit replace?

static zealot
arctic juniper
#

if you're going it naively it's most likely going to be slower than fawe

arctic juniper
static zealot
#

yeah I can just drag it to the bin I'm just confused lmao xD

ocean quartz
#

What is that?

static zealot
#

or del key yeah

arctic juniper
#

there's cut

static zealot
#

a jpg

#

file

cinder flare
static zealot
#

on my desktop

arctic juniper
#

weird

gusty glen
forest pecan
#

has anyone seen my intellij wallpaper

#

lmao

arctic juniper
ocean quartz
#

Just base WE is more than enough

#

Fawe tends to break things

forest pecan
#

WE only good for intense operations

cinder flare
#

ah the Fefo propaganda

forest pecan
#

@obtuse gale

#

lol

static zealot
ocean quartz
#

I mean it's true

obtuse gale
#

Yeah I'm reading lol

forest pecan
#

lmao

#

@obtuse gale

cinder flare
#

lmao

#

@obtuse gale

ocean quartz
forest pecan
#

lmao

#

@obtuse gale

arctic juniper
obtuse gale
#

๐Ÿฅฒ

cinder flare
#

I thought matt was gonna do it for a sec

forest pecan
#

yeah

cinder flare
#

he let me down ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

ocean quartz
arctic juniper
#

just get a vps and sshfs if you want cloud hosting

ocean quartz
cinder flare
#

that's not spam

forest pecan
#

sir it isnt spam

cinder flare
#

it's called being part of the cool kids

static zealot
# ocean quartz Ew one drive

I activated it by accident since I have windows pro and if I deactivate it breaks every fucking thing because they're in User\OneDrive now instead of just User\ but I'd probably be able to just drag them all to the user directory

ocean quartz
#

I'm fine with not being part of the cool kids

cinder flare
forest pecan
cinder flare
#

is that an ip grabber

arctic juniper
forest pecan
#

so click on it

obtuse gale
gusty glen
ocean quartz
forest pecan
oak raft
cinder flare
#

damn everyone's coming out of the woodworks

static zealot
arctic juniper
#

it's true

gusty glen
cinder flare
#

the Windows backend is terrible

#

decades of technical debt, poor design decisions, poor coding, etc.

cinder flare
#

also it being proprietary and not open source sucks

forest pecan
#

get rick astley merch

cinder flare
#

though I do quite like the desktop environment

ocean quartz
#

Still no good arguments on what's so bad about windows for normal use (not server)

static zealot
#

I've used windows my entire life and I'm fine with it. A lot of apps I have including games don't even work on linux so I'll stay

forest pecan
#

meh i like windows

cinder flare
#

Oh Windows for normal use is just kinda slow ig

forest pecan
#

cool kids play video games

#

(:

cinder flare
#

no reason not to use it for the average person

ocean quartz
#

What is slow on it?

static zealot
#

also if you're going to say you can use command line in linux and its faster... windows has cmd too smh

#

just not the same commands but it also has it

arctic juniper
forest pecan
#

not really

#

lol

cinder flare
forest pecan
#

many game developers only support windows

cinder flare
forest pecan
#

mac maybe in cases

static zealot
#

ugh you don't have to use PowerShell. + If you really want you can get WSL and use ubuntu commands on windows

#

smh

arctic juniper
forest pecan
#

nope

#

those are buggy

cinder flare
forest pecan
#

and they dont always work

#

for all games

cinder flare
#

but that's linux lol

arctic juniper
#

I said most

forest pecan
#

nope not even most

#

lol

gusty glen
arctic juniper
#

you do you

cinder flare
#

Well Pulse, strides are being made by lots of people

forest pecan
#

games are too complex and have too much shit in them

ocean quartz
lunar cypress
ocean quartz
forest pecan
#

Yeah xD

#

same

gusty glen
arctic juniper
ocean quartz
#

Yeah

arctic juniper
cinder flare
forest pecan
#

if people still use harddrive these days

gusty glen
#

I said HD though

forest pecan
#

smh

static zealot
#

yeah windows 10 doesn't take long either @gusty glen and no I'm have HDD

#

bcz of cache

#

or whatever

cinder flare
obtuse gale
cinder flare
#

All I see is Windows 10

static zealot
#

it takes no longer than 15 seconds

#

which I'm absolutely fine with

ocean quartz
oak raft
gusty glen
lunar cypress
forest pecan
#

if you guys are arguing about boot times its stupid af

#

unless its like greater than 30 seconds or a minute

ocean quartz
cinder flare
#

I have literally never heard of that

arctic juniper
#

linux can easily beat windows at boot time, but that's pretty much irrelevant for a user

forest pecan
#

exactly

lunar cypress
#

But I'm still wondering which versions of windows you would recommend for older hardware? The main reason I switched on my laptop was because Windows was practically unusable

forest pecan
#

usable for me

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

lunar cypress
#

wtf is that

cinder flare
#

Linux is astonishingly good at reviving old hardware because it is so light and flexible

gusty glen
#

agreed

cinder flare
#

Windows just wasn't made for that

lunar cypress
arctic juniper
forest pecan
#

i dont have anything super good lmao

cinder flare
static zealot
#

reviving

arctic juniper
#

revive

static zealot
#

implies dying first

lunar cypress
#

I'm not talking about average or "not super good"... I'm talking about bad

cinder flare
#

Reviving in terms of usability

ocean quartz
cinder flare
#

Not in terms of raw hardware

gusty glen
#

Windows on new hardware is fine, you see, but try using windows with 4gb ram

#

and open a game

cinder flare
#

But yes, Windows is very bloated and apps tend to expect to have lots of stuff to work with, so they don't do very well under subpar conditions

#

See: Electron and emulating an entire browser per app

arctic juniper
#

how much ram does windows use on idle?

gusty glen
arctic juniper
static zealot
#

well I mean if you really don't want all the options from windows most can be disabled.

cinder flare
#

Idle isn't a very good measure of performance anyways

forest pecan
#

im at 1% cpu when im idling lmfao

arctic juniper
#

linux is better at managing resources

lunar cypress
#

RAM is definitely one of the main problems

cinder flare
lunar cypress
#

Windows used so much of it on my laptop, I only have 4GB there

arctic juniper
#

it takes less memory to run linux than a java app

forest pecan
#

4gb is small af

#

lmao

gusty glen
lunar cypress
forest pecan
#

arent most like 8-16 now these days

cinder flare
#

hey man, 5 is the average ๐Ÿ˜ข

lunar cypress
#

It's almost like it's exactly what I'm saying

gusty glen
#

depend on the country

ocean quartz
#

Even 8 can be pretty small

forest pecan
#

^

lunar cypress
#

The laptop is a couple years old and I didn't have a lot of money

forest pecan
#

F

cinder flare
#

yeah honestly, you need 16 to be comfortable running multiple apps

ocean quartz
#

Yeah

arctic juniper
#

I'm doing fine with 8

gusty glen
#

on windows at least

cinder flare
forest pecan
#

Can you run intellij, an mc server, a client, and chrome

#

at the same time

#

lol

lunar cypress
#

4GB is clearly not too little if you look at how well Linux runs in comparison

forest pecan
#

but then add apps

#

its going to spike

lunar cypress
#

It's not an excuse for your memory hogging desktop applications

arctic juniper
cinder flare
#

you're missing out man!

arctic juniper
#

right

forest pecan
#

okay star is being overkill with apps lmfao

cinder flare
#

no that is actually what I have open right now for my school project Im doing

forest pecan
#

but you should at least have
intellij, a mc client, chrome, and maybe an mc server

gusty glen
#

why would one have PowerPoint, excel, word, photoshop and steam open at the same time?

forest pecan
#

at least for testing

arctic juniper
#

star why aren't you a const?

cinder flare
#

haskell

#

not javascript

arctic juniper
#

what's up with this server and loving haskell and windows

oak raft
#

AND eclipse ๐Ÿ™‚

forest pecan
#

i dont have that lmfao

#

maybe valorant

#

or league of legends

#

๐Ÿ‘€

cinder flare
oak raft
#

eclipse is a must tho

#

league is meh

forest pecan
#

sometimes i have both valorant and league open

#

lol

#

eclipse no

static zealot
#

Vrganj no one said they love windows. We just don't hate it

forest pecan
#

never

#

wait

#

we forget discord

gusty glen
#

Windows environment is nice

forest pecan
#

wtf

lunar cypress
#

I'm really the last person to hate someone for using windows

forest pecan
#

how can we forget discord

#

lmao

obtuse gale
#

Hate is a strong word ๐Ÿ™‚

lunar cypress
#

but I have practical reasons why I'm switching to Linux

#

And nobody can deny those

oak raft
forest pecan
#

well yea cause your setup is shite

#

lol

arctic juniper
#

I've got an old laptop somewhere with windows, it's pretty new
running like shit on an hdd

lunar cypress
#

Just buy better pc 4Head

forest pecan
#

xD

cinder flare
#

I regularly have Chrome, Discord, Steam, Windows Terminal, IntelliJ, a MariaDB instance, and MC running at the same time

lunar cypress
#

It's your fault windows uses 50% of your ram

#

imagine being poor lmao

forest pecan
#

wheres the image

#

of the just stop being poor

#

the woman

lunar cypress
#

idk

forest pecan
#

soemone get it up

#

lol

arctic juniper
#

why are you using mariadb?

forest pecan
#

testing prolly

lunar cypress
#

I always run a phpmyadmin server because I hate myself /s

ocean quartz
#

Same

arctic juniper
#

I repaired my old laptop to use as a mini server

forest pecan
#

phpmyadmin

#

๐Ÿคฎ

arctic juniper
#

it's nice to have things separated

cinder flare
#

oracle bad company

arctic juniper
#

no I'm guessing a sane person would go with postgres or mongo

lunar cypress
#

MariaDB is also bad lol

cinder flare
#

those... aren't the same

arctic juniper
#

I know

cinder flare
#

what's wrong with MariaDB?

#

I quite like relational databases

lunar cypress
#

Then use Postgres

arctic juniper
#

postgres is relational as well

lunar cypress
#

more features

#

and not a MySQL fork

cinder flare
#

I had to use MySQL for a whole semester class

#

so I used MariaDB instead

#

and grew quite fond of it

#

plus postgres has a stupid name

ocean quartz
#

Lmao

arctic juniper
#

you aren't using a superior database because of its name?

cinder flare
#

partially

arctic juniper
#

that makes me wonder, where did it get its name from

#

It was originally named POSTGRES, referring to its origins as a successor to the Ingres database developed at the University of California, Berkeley.

cinder flare
#

apparently it was the second db software at some university?

#

yea

hot hull
#

Oh god

arctic juniper
#

panda

hot hull
#

AsyncChatEvent uses components now, which will break formatting like 99%

arctic juniper
#

it what

static zealot
#

what? You can still use strings can't you?

arctic juniper
#

players can't even send components, can they?

forest pecan
#

?

arctic juniper
#

unless it's like a single text component

ocean quartz
hot hull
#

Means I need to update down the line

static zealot
#

^^^

hot hull
#

Gonna try and get this to work with this

arctic juniper
#

meh I'm glad I don't have to screw with bukkit

ocean quartz
#

You can serialize it back to String Frosty

hot hull
#

I'm aware yea

#

Hoping chat hovers and stuff doesn't get borked

jovial warren
arctic juniper
#

ms teams powerpoint just told me it's temporarily unavailable

jovial warren
#

I guess I get a +1 for effort on that one

#

at least the palette and heightmaps update properly now

arctic juniper
#

how can you live with cat speak

jovial warren
#

I just use it for the memes

hot hull
#

joind teh gaem

jovial warren
#

why is Minecraft such a pain lol

#

for context, that ain't vanilla

#

nor is it a modification of vanilla

hot hull
#

Nah that's you doing dumb shit :p

jovial warren
#

spoke too soon about palettes working

pale shell
#

piggy's debug tutorial is complex thonking

hot hull
#

wdym, that works perfectly

jovial warren
#

not actually sure what I did wrong there

static zealot
#

SkyBlock Server

#

lmao

arctic juniper
#

unloaded chunk, great

static zealot
#

no need for plugins or anything like that lmao

jovial warren
#

and this is why you back up your worlds

#

I've backed this up ever since I added region data persistence

forest pecan
#

krypton more like

static zealot
#

skrypton

hot hull
#

floor in the ground

forest pecan
#

fuckton

#

lol

jovial warren
#

more like fuck you too pulse

static zealot
#

skrpyon I like the sound of that. Sounds a lot like Skript

forest pecan
#

fuck you too bardy โค๏ธ

#

meet up 3 am

#

asap tonigh

jovial warren
#

I do not actually understand what is causing the heightmaps to fuck up like that

ocean quartz
hot hull
#

quick question, do you think having a message prompt sent to staff members in chat sent when a new "variation" of a swear word was said, to confirm if it's a swear word or not and then added to the registry would get annoying or no?

static zealot
#

or maybe Skriiton, Fork of Krypton made in skript? xD

forest pecan
jovial warren
#

why does no one ever take this project at least somewhat seriously ๐Ÿ˜”

static zealot
#

lmao BBG we believe in you but we don't take spigot seriously ...

hot hull
#

I mean it'll be a perm so they can just ask for it to be removed

forest pecan
#

lol

ocean quartz
forest pecan
forest pecan
hot hull
#

Okay now to my second question, how should I store these words, do I just make a db table, then cache at the start, and edit cache, then save, or do I just query every message like a madman

forest pecan
#

make a db

#

theres probably going to be a ton of those words

hot hull
#

Thousands

forest pecan
#

Yeah

#

you need to make the checking process fast

hot hull
#

Yea that shouldn't be a problem

#

since I big brain

forest pecan
#

6head

static zealot
#

what words? what you working on Frosty?

hot hull
#

chat filter

static zealot
#

o

hot hull
#

was gonna use AI, but my brain too sm0ll

forest pecan
#

deep learning

static zealot
#

finally working on Toggle?

forest pecan
#

lol

hot hull
#

no lol Blitz

static zealot
#

oh

#

nvm then

hot hull
#

I mean this'll be manual labour deep learning

static zealot
dawn hinge
#

TOS !!

forest pecan
#

u bird

dawn hinge
#

You love birds dont you

forest pecan
#

well

#

i do

#

but

#

ur type

#

is ugly

dawn hinge
#

That's just racist now

hot hull
#

is string checking fast enough, or should I use hashes?

forest pecan
forest pecan
cinder flare
#

strings are big fat and slow

forest pecan
#

String#contains is nastily slow

#

for tons of operations

static zealot
#

also there's no ignore case ๐Ÿ˜ข

hot hull
#

was never gonna use contains so pog

forest pecan
#

yeah

#

good

static zealot
#

regex

forest pecan
#

needs to be a good one tho

#

cause regex isnt always necessarily faster or slower it depends

#

lol

hot hull
#

You think I'll need anything else or nah

forest pecan
#

person who sent it?

hot hull
#

No need

forest pecan
#

o

hot hull
#

Don't need previous recolection of who said what

cinder flare
#

it's like counter strike's overwatch but for swear words lol

#

it gets less annoying as time goes on, eh?

hot hull
#

Yea

#

as more entries get flagged they'll be resolved automatically

cinder flare
#

yeah that's actually a really good idea

#

now you just gotta plug it into a centralized database

forest pecan
#

maybe ai can even do that

hot hull
#

It can, but my brain sm0ll

cinder flare
#

per-server kinda sucks cause it has to build up on each and every server

#

if you crowd source and centralize it, everyone gets the benefits of flagging!

hot hull
#

Yea I'm using a db, I'm not retarded lmao

cinder flare
#

no no no I mean between servers

#

make a hive mind of swear banning

hot hull
#

if it gets banned on a single server it'll get banned everywhere

#

If that's what you mean

cinder flare
#

oh wait really?

#

like across my servers too?

hot hull
#

If you connected to the same db yes

cinder flare
#

no no no I mean universal

#

like that's part of the plugin

#

every instance of it contributes to the global database

static zealot
#

yeah

#

if they're connected to the same db then yeah

hot hull
#

I mean it's a private plugin so :what:

cinder flare
#

god damnit no

hot hull
#

I get what you're trying to say yea

cinder flare
#

blitz I understand how databases work

#

I mean like crowd source every server between people

hot hull
#

I'm not about to give access to my db to random ppl so they can flood it with junk

cinder flare
#

like if I ban a word and Frosty bans a word, it's automatically banned for everyone

#

okay good point

#

but maybe you only give it to trusted people

static zealot
#

nah just ty

#

xD

cinder flare
#

just ty?

hot hull
#

I mean if any of y'all got a server I'll gladly give access to something centralized

cinder flare
#

im just saying, could be super duper cool

forest pecan
#

yeah maybe some central database

#

then everyone contributes

#

then server has a choice to allow some words if they want

cinder flare
#

spread the work around that way you don't start from scratch upon first time running it

hot hull
#

Yea but false positives would be hard to monitor since some people are just retards

cinder flare
#

well that's why you make it check like, three people or something banning it first

forest pecan
#

maybe have some algorithm like a frequency

#

count

#

yeah

cinder flare
#

what

#

you get to say that but not me

forest pecan
#

cockroach

cinder flare
#

anyways, if you distribute it to non-idiots only, you can trust the results even more

hot hull
#

need to figure out how to make this frequency now

cinder flare
#

add a db column called frequency

forest pecan
#

just increment it lol

hot hull
#

Not what I mean

cinder flare
#

or add a table for words not yet approved y et

#

oh lool

#

what is this plugin, anyways?

#

you said it was private?

hot hull
#

chat filter

#

private yes

cinder flare
#

oh that's its only intended purpose

hot hull
#

yes

cinder flare
#

i mean bet bro

#

setup a centralized thing and I'll run it

hot hull
#

could probably find some swear word bots to populate it kek

cinder flare
#

haha

#

just let some of us loose

hot hull
#

what if I just have a central db with the starting words populated, and then you're able to query from it and populate your local db, so you don't have to start from scratch

#

(your local db wouldn't write to the centralized one tho)

static zealot
#

btw I hope that your chat filter will use regex right? I had one that gaby improved a bit on. Maybe can be better but I'll send it 1 sec.

hot hull
#

why regex, ew

cinder flare
#

I still don't see why allowing a certain amount of contributions back wouldn't be a good idea though

hot hull
#

It would, but that's effort of monitoring

cinder flare
#

make a nice website and allow some peeps you trust access

#

a second level of checking

#

if they approve it, it goes in the core db

static zealot
#

bcz of fu.ck you?

#

or fu|ck you

cinder flare
#

i presumed that was the point of the ask an admin thing

#

then they can say "yes that is bad word"