dev-general

[quiet depot]

best way to learn is to dive in

which is exactly what I did with docdex

[cinder flare]

oh so it's kinda like when IJ indexes stuff

makes it zoom

[quiet depot]

I’d never used mongo or even looked at it properly prior to docdex

[cinder flare]

okay now to come up with a cool idea that uses mongo

[oblique heath]

i believe mongo is used whenever you have to store a lot of data

[cinder flare]

I mean, same as RDBs

[oblique heath]

not quite

rdbs are relational

mongo is not

[hot hull]

Make a replay system, serialize the server every tick

[cinder flare]

yeah so they store lots of interconnected data

[hot hull]

There's your data

[cinder flare]

mongo just stores a ton of unrelated data

lmao Frosty

[oblique heath]

ye

so if you don't need relations

and need a boost in speed

[cinder flare]

ah Isee

[quiet depot]

even with this in mind, you’re still meant to use a consistent schematic in mongo

although you don’t have to

[cinder flare]

yeah I presumed so

[oblique heath]

isn't the selling point of mongo it's flexibility

[cinder flare]

though surely Mongo is very good at serializing/deserializing objects quite easily right?

since it's JSON and all that

[oblique heath]

it's great for json

[cinder flare]

cause mapping an object to a SQL database is kinda funky

[oblique heath]

it also has a great capacity to search through string values

so if you want to pattern match or look for keywords

it's nice for that, i think

[quiet depot]

I mean since it’s json it’s naturally going to be easier to convert to ur objects

mongo has a java lib for it

[cinder flare]

awe yeah I knew it

[quiet depot]

there’s like 2 mongo livs

libs

one is a full on orm iirc and the other is a bit more manual

I went the more manual route

[cinder flare]

is there an advantage to that?

[quiet depot]

dunno

[oblique heath]

true developers use documents instead of classes everywhere in their app, so that they never have to mess around with converting them when inserting to mongodb 😎

[quiet depot]

I went the manual route because i wanted to create my own orm

wait no that was for the mysql bit not mongo

idk why I went manual, can’t remember

[cinder flare]

lol

[oblique heath]

i feel like it'd be more exciting to use docker than to use mongo in a project

if you're just making a project for the sake of using one of those

[quiet depot]

u can use both

mongo in the app itself

docker in devops

[cinder flare]

yeah exactly

any other tech I should throw in the mix?

[oblique heath]

well if you're using docker

[quiet depot]

redis

[oblique heath]

go all the way and use k8s

[cinder flare]

yeah I wanted to use redis

what's the difference

[oblique heath]

k8s orchestrates

[cinder flare]

I don't really know much about kubernetes or docker

[quiet depot]

you can use redis to have communication between different instances of the app for communication I think

redis is also a cache so you can try use that functionality

[oblique heath]

k8s gives you easy access to actually deploy and manipulate launched docker containers

docker alone can't exactly do much programatically

[cinder flare]

oh I see they're a combo

[oblique heath]

ye

[quiet depot]

btw if you’re getting into docker

would like to introduce you to lemmotresto, our chief docker expert

[oblique heath]

😮

[cinder flare]

oooh!

[oblique heath]

as far as other tech goes

you're gonna be working in java right?

[cinder flare]

I presume so. It's the language I am most comfortable with by far

Though I strive everyday to get better at Kotlin lol

[oblique heath]

you can try making artifacts and pushing them to a maven repo

not that it's much to do with the actual project but

[cinder flare]

oh dang that would actually be very good to learn

maybe jenkins too

[oblique heath]

yeah

all that ci stuff

[cinder flare]

wow why do I know nothing lol

[quiet depot]

jenkins is old fashioned

you might be better off learning github actions

[oblique heath]

github actions yucky

[cinder flare]

but that's not self-hosted :(

[oblique heath]

^

[quiet depot]

well that's not strictly true

https://docs.github.com/en/actions/hosting-your-own-runners/about-self-hosted-runners

[cinder flare]

well there's no reason to self host runners

you can just use the provided ones at that point

[quiet depot]

it's actually dangerous to do so iirc

security issues on public repos I think

[cinder flare]

dangerous to host your own?

[quiet depot]

yeah

[cinder flare]

ah makes sense

[quiet depot]

it's because people can execute code in your runner via pull requests on public repos

[cinder flare]

it runs your runner on other people's forks?

[oblique heath]

are there settings to prevent pull requests being run?

[quiet depot]

no but if you have a workflow that checks prs, when they pr back to your main repo, the workflow will execute using your runner

yes ivan you can simply not have a workflow for prs

[oblique heath]

ah

[quiet depot]

https://docs.github.com/en/actions/hosting-your-own-runners/about-self-hosted-runners#self-hosted-runner-security-with-public-repositories

do you have a vps capable of running a repo and jenkins star?

[hot hull]

This can be a record class right?

[quiet depot]

yes

probably

[cinder flare]

i mean I have free credits lol

[oblique heath]

🖐️

how similar is jenkins to github actions

[cinder flare]

record class?

[oblique heath]

because i have never used either but also feel that i should start on that soon

[cinder flare]

well they're both CI, so presumably they're quite similar

[quiet depot]

don't think they're similar at all

use wise

sure they can produce the same results but to get to that stage, the process is completely different

[hot hull]

wait records are java 16 or 15?

[quiet depot]

15

[hot hull]

Why does it not exist then

[quiet depot]

try 16

[cinder flare]

lmao

[quiet depot]

records are actually 14

have you set your language level?

[hot hull]

bruh what, yea I have it set to 15

[quiet depot]

you might have to enable preview features or something

[hot hull]

ah it's 16 language level

sheesh just found out why the initial perlin method didn't work

forgot a /2

[cinder flare]

aw Frosty no!

you've fallen victim to one of the classic blunders!

[hot hull]

@old wyvern See this would be nice for the renderer

3D ofc tho

[obtuse gale]

@hot hull @quiet depot for reference 👀 https://advancedweb.hu/a-categorized-list-of-all-java-and-jvm-features-since-jdk-8-to-16/

That's quite an awesome way of putting everything

No

[hot hull]

It's 9am

[obtuse gale]

It's almost 4 am and I'm going nowhere

Maybe

Probably

But I don't care enough about my health anyway

[quiet depot]

sleep is for the weak

@obtuse gale they're missing the only jep that matters

the only jep that ever mattered

enhanced class redefinition

[obtuse gale]

oh what's that one about

Yo that seems v cool

Too bad it says

Status Closed / Withdrawn

lol

[quiet depot]

yeah 😦

[unkempt tangle]

I made it! I decompiled their lua scripts

[cinder flare]

is that not what you had before

[unkempt tangle]

Noñ

?

[cinder flare]

oh it seems very similar

from my cursory glance lol

did you guys know Oracle makes restaurant POS and KDS systems?

https://www.oracle.com/industries/food-beverage/restaurant-pos-systems/kitchen-display-systems/

[echo nexus]

how should i store player data

locally

[cinder flare]

What kind of player data?

[old wyvern]

Sure

No, the second part are the return types

[hot hull]

pog

[cinder flare]

now that's pretty good Frosty!

[echo nexus]

uuid -> location[]

[hot hull]

made them all y 1 cause I need my fps lmao

[cinder flare]

Hashmap

or do you mean persistent?

[echo nexus]

i mean flat file

[hot hull]

efe, what area of coding you looking at, as in what kind of things are you willing to code

[cinder flare]

Oh I mean, SQL if you know how to use it works nicely

I guess MongoDB maybe?

There's a lot of storage solutions lol

If you're desperate, you could use a yaml config

but thats 😬

[hot hull]

pathfinding?

[cinder flare]

ooh A* is really cool!

[hot hull]

If so, make an AI and give it to a zombie, then watch it dominate the world

mmorpg?

[cinder flare]

pve gamemodes? hmm

yeah ig like hypixel skyblock but efe edition?

oh?

[hot hull]

forget hypixel exists, thank you

[cinder flare]

but the dev blogs are so cool!

oh my god

that's almost as many hours as I have in Garry's Mod

I think you're an addict efe

[hot hull]

I still don't get why this fucks the fps so much

[cinder flare]

i mean i skip class to sleep sometimes

though im in uni and attendance is not mandatory

[echo nexus]

yeah im just storing it temp, and mysql is giving me a hard time

[unkempt tangle]

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a4EPdp1_460svwm.webm

[cinder flare]

follow any JDBC tutorials?

[hot hull]

If you don't need persistency, why use a db

[cinder flare]

well no they do

that's why they're flatfiling it lol

[cinder flare]

though if you already have the SQL written, consider SQLite! A flatfile that uses SQL

i mean, it's versus other players

though 99% of gamemodes are

that's uh, kinda what tends to make multiplayer games fun lol

then only support 1.16

problem solved

then cps doesn't matter? lmao

well you're not gonna get far by avoiding the biggest part of this game lol

hypixel players?

[hot hull]

I was gonna "cache" values for this renderer, but I don't think that'll fix any of my fps issues, anyone got any recommendations for a java 3d rendering lib

[cinder flare]

oh I didn't even realize there was other data besides the yellow haha

[hot hull]

second highest being hypixel china?

[cinder flare]

use raw OpenGL and C++ 😉

[hot hull]

Star, my lack of brain cells might get in the way of that

[cinder flare]

I kinda did it with my poing

though in 2 dimensions to be fair

[dawn hinge]

Hypixel china doesn't exist anymore btw

[cinder flare]

SFML kinda cute tho

[dawn hinge]

Wrong reply

[cinder flare]

wrong reply lol

[dawn hinge]

Smh

[ruby crater]

org.bukkit.entity.Player#sendBlockChange

@Deprecated
void sendBlockChange(@NotNull Location loc, @NotNull Material material, byte data)```

Deprecation Message:

Magic value

Description:

Send a block change. This fakes a block change packet for a user at a certain location. This will not actually change the world in any way.

Parameters:

loc - The location of the changed block
material - The new block
data - The block data

Page 1 • Requested by: efefury • spigot

[hot hull]

wanna link code Star

[cinder flare]

my poing?

[hot hull]

Yes Star

[cinder flare]

https://github.com/Starmism/Poing

poing!

void sendBlockChange(Location loc, BlockData block)

that's not deprecated

the args you have is

[unkempt tangle]

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/av5y2Eq_460svwm.webm

[cinder flare]

it's a block

[ruby crater]

org.bukkit.Material

public enum Material
extends Enum<Material>
implements Keyed```
Material has 1 extensions, 1 implementations, 28 methods, 5 all implementations, and  1542 fields.

Description:

An enum of all material IDs accepted by the official server and client

Requested by: efefury • spigot

[cinder flare]

no not maerial

and no it extends an Enum

of itself as the type

generics go brrr

it means it gets to override the Enum class methods?

as far as I can tell

awe nice level 34

cause it's a generic

you gotta specify what type

https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/13/docs/api/java.base/java/lang/Enum.html?is-external=true

make bedwars

the gauntlet of every true hypixel player

make a better one than dkim

that'll prove you're a good coder

wtf ew

skywars sucks

bedwars is where it's at

yikes

[hot hull]

Why would you need nms

[cinder flare]

to uh

net the minecraft server or whatever

that's uh, kinda static abuse?

just do DI

uih

for what

[old wyvern]

No

[cinder flare]

yeah probably

[old wyvern]

What does it actually include?

[cinder flare]

considering constructors are things you put in classes to make instances of them lol

[old wyvern]

core seems more like a module bame

What part do you consider that?

GameObjects?

Events?

Then decide that first

[cinder flare]

oof

Yugi really telling you to map out your whole plugin shcema

oh yikes

you'll need some multiworld shit going on

[quiet depot]

dis is not static abuse

[old wyvern]

If it contains the main game entry points, a good package name would just be game

[quiet depot]

ur not abusing static by doing that

[cinder flare]

well DI is better, certainly?

[quiet depot]

doesn't really make a difference for your javaplugin instance imo

[cinder flare]

correction: efe vaguely throwing out ideas for an actual good plugin

[quiet depot]

star generally yes, di is better

but in this very specific case there's not much reason to use di over a static instance getter

especially when using a static getter is so much easier

[cinder flare]

saves you a line in every class

[steel heart]

But even so? Wouldn’t it be a more unit testable approach (yea you probably also need MockBukkit)

[quiet depot]

most people don't write unit tests

bukkit is hard to write unit tests for

[steel heart]

Yeah that’s true I guess

Yep

[cinder flare]

uh

I mean are you actually gonna check the status?

usually you just log if it fails

[steel heart]

I’d wrap the if statement with curly braces efe but else I guess nice

[cinder flare]

and nothing if it succeeds

yeah what he said

[quiet depot]

u should flip those conditions around

have the -1 first

[cinder flare]

is the -1 even necessary?

surely the size of a collection can never be negative 1

[steel heart]

Oh so in principle that variable may be -1 or 1?

If that’s the case maybe a boolean is better suited

[cinder flare]

ok

so what about boolean

yeahj

efe you literally read a boolean from your config

why would you not assign it to a boolean

[quiet depot]

lel

[distant sun]

Collections size cant be lower than 0

[cinder flare]

also turns out it's a boolean lol

[steel heart]

Idk if any other dev does this but I use enums with 2 elements/constants instead of boolean many times.

[cinder flare]

that uh, sounds like a waste unless you plan on adding more options down the road?

[steel heart]

Its more cause of readability

[cinder flare]

is your boolean name not readable?

[steel heart]

Lol

Do I sound like the victim now?

[cinder flare]

lol

boolean isVictim = true;

enum victimStatus {
  IS_VICTIM,
  NOT_VICTIM
};

[distant sun]

:))

[steel heart]

[quiet depot]

Not that specifically, but I do often make enums with only 2 constants because adding stuff in the future

then I go and use a switch on it

and ij has a little rant at me saying I should use an if

[distant sun]

So if I have an arena for an event (50x100 blocks or smth) with 40+ players there, is there any way to lower the impact to the client and/or server that many players in a single area will have?

[quiet depot]

what kind of event is it?

[distant sun]

Was thinking about making them semi transparent

[quiet depot]

can't see that changing anything

do all players need to see each other?

you could just make it so they can only see a limited amount of people

don't think 40 players is going to stress the client much though?

[cinder flare]

yeah honestly

40 players will stress the network connection more than anything

[distant sun]

https://youtu.be/rLrAB9qHVr0

[distant sun]

Hmm, how would this be achieved?

[cinder flare]

i mean, LOS detection sounds like the easiest one

obviously packet editing is required

[distant sun]

Los?

[cinder flare]

line of sight

though to render only a certain number of players will require a reason for hiding them

so if you only want like the 5 nearest players, might be worth it to give them like blindness or something

[steel heart]

Maybe you could use something like potion effects

[cinder flare]

it still sends packets, which would still stress connections

[steel heart]

Minecraft /teams command maybe

[cinder flare]

does that allow you to hide players?

I thought it just did names

[steel heart]

Or would that also send packets even tho you’d essentially hide players

Hmm yeah I don’t remember tbf

[cinder flare]

hmmm yeah seems like you're gonna need to get some packet stuff to stop packets from being sent

[distant sun]

Wont LOS require a constant check?

[cinder flare]

i mean, you can do like every few ticks

and it's just some maths

i dunno, it's what video game renderers do lol

I don't see why you would have a single server mode boolean when you could just set max-games to 1

[distant sun]

gameLimit = boolean ? 1 : max-games;

[cinder flare]

yeah?

so if you want single server mode, just set max games to 1

[quiet depot]

I thought about LOS but the problem is people can turn their heads very fast

[cinder flare]

very true, the minecraft server tick system was probably not intended for this kind of stuff

maybe just radius then?

i dunno

[quiet depot]

that's why I just recommended hiding random players

[cinder flare]

random players lmao

what if it's a guy right behind you

[quiet depot]

well he can't see you either

make sure it's synchronised

[cinder flare]

that would be so weird

[quiet depot]

you wouldn't know

[cinder flare]

i guess not, but then it's like you're not even in the same server as them

you'd see people getting attacked by nothing lol

[quiet depot]

no you wouldn't

it's all synced

you'd have groups of players that could see each other

[cinder flare]

well doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a big deathmatch?

[quiet depot]

didn't realise it was a deathmatch

[distant sun]

It doesnt

[cinder flare]

i presumed it was im not sure

[quiet depot]

gaby can you give a quick summary of the event

don't want to watch a vid

[distant sun]

So I can split the players in groups of ten and hide each group from the others?

[cinder flare]

oh yeah that would be an excellent idea if you can do it without messing the game up

[old wyvern]

Or you could setup a party system

People in the same party can see each other

You cant see epeople from other partys

[cinder flare]

well that would work if you're not supposed to like fight random people

[old wyvern]

Oh it's pvp?

[quiet depot]

we don't know

[cinder flare]

nobody knows except Gaby

[old wyvern]

Oh

[cinder flare]

and he's writing a 5 paragraph essay right now

[old wyvern]

xD

[quiet depot]

5 paragraphs

[distant sun]

It consist of an arena with two regions, one for O (true) and one for X (false). Players get asked a question and have like 10 seconds to go the the area for X or for O and those who choosed the wrong answer get removed from the event.

[quiet depot]

this man is writing a novel

a 2 sentence novel

[old wyvern]

Party

[cinder flare]

yeah that took a lot longer than the amount of content I presumed there'd be lol

[distant sun]

Im on phone su

[cinder flare]

that's like block party on uh

hive?

[distant sun]

Negative

[cinder flare]

i mean similar concept

you go to a series of blocks

instead of giving you a color, it asks you a question lol

[distant sun]

I guess

[old wyvern]

Thi is trivia I think

[cinder flare]

well yeah then you could totally do the party thing

[quiet depot]

yeah in that case gaby, my idea would work or parties

but 10 is low

I don't think 40 would even lag your client

[distant sun]

I work on a clan system but is not done, will implement this when it is

[cinder flare]

yeah honestly, 40 isn't bad at all

plus then you get to see people flock to a side

[distant sun]

Will see how it goes without hiding them

[quiet depot]

do a test with lambdaattack

see if 40 players lags

[cinder flare]

is uhhhh... is this open source?

[old wyvern]

No its for the dutch server I think

[cinder flare]

oh very sad

[distant sun]

dutch?

[quiet depot]

gaby is very dutch

yes

[old wyvern]

Uh

Portugeese?

I forgot

[distant sun]

Yugi ..

[quiet depot]

look at the flag

[old wyvern]

Soz

😂

Spanish?

[quiet depot]

look at the flag

copy it

paste it into google

[old wyvern]

Idk what that flag is

[cinder flare]

Romania?

[old wyvern]

😫

Ohh

[cinder flare]

it just shows as RO to me

[old wyvern]

Yea

That

[quiet depot]

basically dutch

[distant sun]

Ye the flag works only on mobile

[old wyvern]

😂

[cinder flare]

is this for royalsaga.net?

[old wyvern]

Yes

[cinder flare]

ah very cool

[quiet depot]

||woah im gonna hack ur server kid||

[distant sun]

Im mostly worried about the server itself @quiet depot last night we had the weekly giveall event and well .. 75 players got us down to 8tps :))

[old wyvern]

💀

[quiet depot]

this sounds like an oof

[cinder flare]

oh my god how

[old wyvern]

Switch to kronos

[distant sun]

@quiet depot fix the timezone smh

[old wyvern]

🥲

[quiet depot]

you fix it

what's even wrong with it

[old wyvern]

Btw piggy

[cinder flare]

i think the problem is ubuntu here

[distant sun]

One hour behins :((

[old wyvern]

Linux and windows times seem to conflict

[distant sun]

Behind

[quiet depot]

gaby it's set t your timezone

[cinder flare]

yes they do

[quiet depot]

what's your timezone

[distant sun]

The console shows the wrong time

[old wyvern]

Fixing on neither sides work

[quiet depot]

lol

[old wyvern]

🥲

[cinder flare]

you need to set one of them to use the others time

[distant sun]

But anything related to time form the panel works

[cinder flare]

are you using arch yugi?

[old wyvern]

Manjaro

[cinder flare]

ah perfect

[distant sun]

Gmt+2

[quiet depot]

this is a server, not a hobbyist's pc

we use real operating systems

[cinder flare]

if it's a server, you use Debian lol

ubuntu big dumb

[quiet depot]

pf

[old wyvern]

😂

[quiet depot]

no

you be hating on ubuntu but canonical is basically solely responsible for linux's popularity these days

[distant sun]

8tps doesnt feel like 8tps but still xd

[cinder flare]

bruh

canonical bad company

same with red hat

the only purity in this world is Debian and Arch

[quiet depot]

no

[cinder flare]

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/System_time#utc-in-microsoft-windows

scroll down to the windows thing

and it'll coordinate

[quiet depot]

gaby I'm pretty sure your timezone issue stems from the fact that your servers are all in docker containers

and they might be using their own timezones

and god that just sounds like so much effort to fix

[hot hull]

Yugi,

[cinder flare]

i am liking the look of that!

though make sure you do your meshes so you don't render like all bazillion of those unused sides

[hot hull]

meh

[distant sun]

:((

nice frosty

[hot hull]

It's ran by some lib Yugi used, and the performance is just non existant, so I mean kek

[cinder flare]

oh lol

maybe performance could be better? 👀

[hot hull]

will have to be, but certainly not if it's written in java

[cinder flare]

oof my poor java boi

[distant sun]

fps = 60;

[jovial warren]

👀

[jovial warren]

fps = 9001;

it's over 9000

[distant sun]

while (true) fps += fps;

[cinder flare]

damn exponential fps

[hot hull]

it generates the entire thing every time you move, hence why it's so inefficient

need to probably cache already generated stuff

[distant sun]

you mean double negation?

[jovial warren]

lol

[cinder flare]

you know when you minus a negative and its positive

it's inverting an inversion

[hot hull]

Don't think I'm able to check if the block is visible with this tho to not draw it

[cinder flare]

well you can just check if it has air on a side

and add that side to the mesh

and only draw those ones

[jovial warren]

as my year 7 maths teacher said, if a bad thing happens to a bad person that's a good thing 🥲

[hot hull]

Not how this works Star kek

[cinder flare]

wot

just check if it has a block on that side

and if it does, don't draw it

[old wyvern]

But if a bad thing happening to a bad person is a good thing, its a good thing happening to the bad person which is a bad thing which is a bad thing happening to a bad person which is a good thing....

https://tenor.com/view/xzibit-meme-gif-13033573

[steel heart]

No

Pls

Why

[jovial warren]

lol

[prisma wave]

Hmm do I apply for support role

On the one hand I would be able to see when dkim deletes his messages

[cinder flare]

lmao

[prisma wave]

On the other hand I wouldn't be able to shitpost in showcase anymore

[hot hull]

I improved performance a ton, however

[steel heart]

[steel heart]

Super duper quality

[hot hull]

oh wow sharex doesn't actually recognize the image stutter kek

It's blinking rapidly

[prisma wave]

That looks cool

[steel heart]

But nice thing

Very satisfying

[prisma wave]

Would be much faster in rust

[hot hull]

It would be much faster in any other language

[steel heart]

Haskell

[hot hull]

however I sm0ll brain so

[cinder flare]

yeah why'd I have to get so used to java

it's ruining my game dev prospects

[steel heart]

Java game dev tho

[cinder flare]

minecraft?

[prisma wave]

Hmm

[cinder flare]

what other games are written in java lol

[steel heart]

Uh

[prisma wave]

I guess papi would count

[hot hull]

MC's rendering engine is written in what?

[prisma wave]

LWJGL

[hot hull]

my brain borked

[prisma wave]

or OpenGL

[cinder flare]

yeah definitely LWJGL

[prisma wave]

Yeah

[hot hull]

OpenGL would probably be the way to go no?

[prisma wave]

Which is just an OpenGL wrapper

[steel heart]

Isn’t that like natively implemented (with C++ or smtng)

[prisma wave]

For what

[hot hull]

renderer

[onyx loom]

not worth it 🙁

[prisma wave]

hmm maybe

[onyx loom]

we need the shitpost for best of helpchat

[prisma wave]

OpenGL is quite complex but yeah

[hot hull]

cause as soon as I start adding more terrain variation, and actually scale it up it'll shit itself with this

[cinder flare]

oooh you get a lot with LWJGL

[prisma wave]

I'm sure they wouldn't mind a bit of shitposting from support staff

[cinder flare]

OpenGL, OpenCL, OpenAL, GLFW, Vulkan

[steel heart]

It’s quite nice the way mojang actually abstracts it if you’ve worked with modding

[hot hull]

I've not

Gonna try LWJGL and see how it goes

[steel heart]

Pog

[hot hull]

I'll be back in a bit when I need help, kbye

[prisma wave]

it's quite interesting

[cinder flare]

have fun!

wear your helmet!

[prisma wave]

you're pretty much writing C code in java

[steel heart]

Bbcode

[jovial warren]

idk why but I thought I would apply for support lol

[hot hull]

I mean I'm support and I support noone :dab:

[jovial warren]

gonna press a big fat X there and doubt I'm getting in but ya know, worth a go

[jovial warren]

lol

[cinder flare]

that's why they're hiring more

Blitz can only help so many people

[steel heart]

Lol

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/xvWW.gif

[steel heart]

He’s da man in the plugin help channels

[onyx loom]

bardy have fun with the random people dming and pinging u 💀

[jovial warren]

did Blitz rename himself btw?

[hot hull]

I've had a lot more brain cells since I stopped helping people in there

[cinder flare]

turn off dm's 🧠

[steel heart]

turn off computer

[onyx loom]

lmao frosty same

[prisma wave]

Plugin help channels are horrendous

[jovial warren]

turn off life https://tenor.com/view/mind-blown-head-explode-amazing-shocking-wow-gif-19681784

[onyx loom]

general plugins is pain only

[prisma wave]

Terrifying places

[cinder flare]

someone's gotta toil through the pain

[steel heart]

[cinder flare]

some people just need it explained to them what placeholders are, ya know?

[prisma wave]

Are u fucking with me or ?

[jovial warren]

oh btw, BM, I got something for you

[steel heart]

Hence why you shouldn’t look up my history on the server

[jovial warren]

recently went through and documented the server-side of Krypton, I want you to make sure that I've done the author tags correctly

https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton/pull/21

[pallid gale]

someone found the real truth

[jovial warren]

wait what is that?

look

👀

okay that is actually fucking cool

[jovial warren]

🥲

[onyx loom]

yes new embed

[jovial warren]

146 files changed in 8 commits

🥲

[prisma wave]

Looks fine

Idrc about specific files

[jovial warren]

I tried to base it off of the really accurately named Git Blame

[steel heart]

Ngl I tried spring and it’s not that bad

[jovial warren]

and I say really accurately named because it tells you who to blame something on if it goes wrong lol

[jovial warren]

yeah it's really good

[onyx loom]

just blame it all on bm

[jovial warren]

https://github.com/BomBardyGamer/BardyBot I made a bot using it

[onyx loom]

it was his project

[jovial warren]

oh actually, wanna see what BM said in Krypton when I talked about the good old days when server only did a few things

[hot hull]

I'm a professional already

[onyx loom]

pog frosty

[prisma wave]

amazing

[onyx loom]

thats epic

[jovial warren]

https://i.imgur.com/VvpL3YZ.png

https://i.imgur.com/A6EZccI.png

[onyx loom]

i heard google are hiring frosty

[prisma wave]

[hot hull]

google is too low level for me

[jovial warren]

lol

[prisma wave]

Rust OpenGL

[onyx loom]

u might wanna take the chance with those skills

[jovial warren]

that reminds me

thinking of adding a GUI to Krypton at some point

[hot hull]

ngl this actually looks hella nice

[jovial warren]

optional ofc, and disabled by default I think

no annoying java -jar Krypton.jar nogui

[prisma wave]

https://c.tenor.com/YV4LtXo110gAAAAM/youre-your.gif

[onyx loom]

what 😂

[prisma wave]

*you're

[onyx loom]

ok buddy

[jovial warren]

java -jar Krypton.jar --idiot-mode enables the GUI 😎

[steel heart]

👍👍👍

[onyx loom]

not worth the time bardy

[prisma wave]

#development message

*you're

[onyx loom]

i heard 0% use the gui on spigot

[cinder flare]

web control???

[jovial warren]

might add RCON for that

[jovial warren]

more like -1%

[cinder flare]

a web control panel would be very cute

[jovial warren]

could make a Pterodactyl egg

[cinder flare]

maybe you can make the next pterodactyl

oh yeah lol

[prisma wave]

Recreating the wheel is a traditionally good idea

[steel heart]

Such pioneering

[cinder flare]

i bet pterodactyl isn't written in kotlin

[jovial warren]

PHP 🤢

[prisma wave]

The Daemon is in Go though 🤤

[jovial warren]

used to be in JS

[stuck harbor]

so they went from JS to PHP?

good

thats the correct move

[cinder flare]

oh dang I keep hearing things about GO

should i try it

[stuck harbor]

go is good

[steel heart]

Pokémon Go

[stuck harbor]

ive been considering making a restful api

in go

[prisma wave]

"if you want to use an imperative languages, don't. If you have to use an imperative language, use Go or Rust"

• Mother Mary

[steel heart]

It’s a quote so it’s objectively true

I shall trash java

[cinder flare]

dude working with JavaScript and Google's APIs made me want to go back to Java so much

[old wyvern]

Elm

😌

[jovial warren]

https://imgflip.com/i/561slr

[old wyvern]

Rambda

😌

[old wyvern]

Yes!

[cinder flare]

not knowing what types things are and not knowing what methods you can do to things until runtime is infuriating

[old wyvern]

Star, give elm a try, its very easy

[prisma wave]

typescript

[cinder flare]

and even if I used elm, the API is in javascript

I did use typescript

[hot hull]

sheesh

[old wyvern]

The compiler is much better than haskell at telling you what to do

[prisma wave]

except everything is const 🙂

[hot hull]

we got vsync in this bish

[cinder flare]

but it doesn't give me types

[steel heart]

Lol

[old wyvern]

Did you rewrite the rendered frost?

[cinder flare]

like the way you interact with this API is by defining 5 functions

[old wyvern]

Which API is it star?

[steel heart]

[cinder flare]

Google Data Studio Connector

https://github.com/Starmism/fireeyeAPI

look at this shit

[steel heart]

Holy shit

Never seen so long switches

[cinder flare]

well you need a case per column

and there happened to be 65 columns

[steel heart]

Lmao

[hot hull]

doing it rn Yugi

[old wyvern]

What in the

https://github.com/Starmism/fireeyeAPI/blob/master/Connector.ts

[cinder flare]

yup

that's how you gotta do it

gotta define the schema, then gotta define the data

also they use plain Objects as maps, and fields are accessed using bracket notation

[old wyvern]

A lot of it seems to be repeated

[cinder flare]

it's unique, I assure you

one of those thiccy switches is for defining the schema

and the other is for actually retrieving the data

[old wyvern]

Why not just define an object with properties for each case in a separate file

then import it

[cinder flare]

becuase

[old wyvern]

and insteadof switching

fetch the right one

[cinder flare]

you can't in Google Apps Script

[old wyvern]

wdym?

[cinder flare]

this is just a fancy way of writing Google Apps Script code

see the instructions?

[old wyvern]

Lemme check

[cinder flare]

it uses clasp to upload it and then it reformats it back down to shitty javascript

also this is what the like 3 tutorials I read said to do

so I just did it

[steel heart]

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-shia-la-beouf-do-it-gif-4531935

[old wyvern]

That switch just feels like a complete mess

[cinder flare]

I mean I completely agree

[old wyvern]

Why wouldnt the object approach work btw?

[cinder flare]

you can't import things in Google Apps Script

[steel heart]

Damn

[cinder flare]

also I don't really see the point

making a new object for each type is no different than having a switch

[old wyvern]

You wouldnt need to create a new object

[cinder flare]

I'd still need something to map the strings I'm given to objects

that's what you just said, no?

[old wyvern]

You would only need to write the "builder" logic once

[old wyvern]

No star

I meant keeping a singel instance of an object like a configuration

Even a json files does well

Would you be able to import json files in it?

[cinder flare]

not that I know of

I mean I need to specify types and methods for each thing

That doesn't really store well in JSON

[old wyvern]

hmm

[cinder flare]

I see what you're trying to go for in combining the switches into one

but they do separate things that can't really be combined

plus it's already done and I already got clout from it

it might be the reason I get a development internship this summer 😉

[steel heart]

So I mean nice

[cinder flare]

exact;y

who cares about google apps script code anymore

[old wyvern]

Im not sure I understand

They seem to just differ in Id and names

[cinder flare]

they differ in functionality

[steel heart]

Yeah well let me copy ur nicely written readme thank you

[cinder flare]

yeah my dad typed it up in google docs and I formatted it into Markdown lol

[steel heart]

[cinder flare]

see he does marketing and I do development

we're a perfect team!

[steel heart]

Man my dad does like uh well tbf Idk

Java issues

Tbf just anonymously instantiate efe lol

[cinder flare]

what if the whole world is just anonymously instantiated

[steel heart]

[old wyvern]

for example lets take a small segment

        case 'LogonTrackerVersion':
            fields
                .newDimension()
                .setId('LogonTrackerVersion')
                .setName('LogonTracker Version')
                .setType(dsTypes.NUMBER);
            break;
        case 'ProcessTrackerStatus':
            fields
                .newDimension()
                .setId('ProcessTrackerStatus')
                .setName('ProcessTracker Status')
                .setType(dsTypes.TEXT);
            break;
        case 'ProcessTrackerVersion':
            fields
                .newDimension()
                .setId('ProcessTrackerVersion')
                .setName('ProcessTracker Version')
                .setType(dsTypes.NUMBER);

we can shift it to..

var configuration = {
    'LogonTrackerVersion' : {
          'id'   : 'LogonTrackerVersion',
          'name' : 'LogonTracker Version',
          'type' : dsTypes.NUMBER,
     },
    'ProcessTrackerStatus' : {
          'id'   : 'ProcessTrackerStatus',
          'name' : 'ProcessTracker Status',
          'type' : dsTypes.TEXT,
     },
    'ProcessTrackerVersion' : {
          'id'   : 'ProcessTrackerVersion',
          'name' : 'ProcessTracker Version',
          'type' : dsTypes.NUMBER,
     },
}
...
let section = configuration[fieldID]
fields
  .newDimension()
   .setId(section.id)
   .setName(section.name)
   .setType(section.type);

Would this not work?

[cinder flare]

you also need to know the metric vs dimension thing

but I mean I guess? doesn't really save too much code

[old wyvern]

The* point was to reduce the repeating part

[cinder flare]

the word case?

[old wyvern]

no the repeating builders in the cases

[cinder flare]

i mean what difference does it make

[old wyvern]

Also yea I didnt notice the metric thing

[cinder flare]

that's essentially the same thing

[old wyvern]

Shortens the use site mostly

[cinder flare]

just stored in weird javascript object map instead of copied a lil

[old wyvern]

Easier to manage

[cinder flare]

i guess?

[old wyvern]

🤷

[cinder flare]

would it eliminate the absolutely massive array I have that it iterates through?

cause that'd be interesting

oh shit wait

could I also add the other switch statement property in there somehow

oh damn this is getting interesting

[old wyvern]

wdym?

[cinder flare]

you know the other switch statement that tells it how to format it

[old wyvern]

You could probably throw in a construction function for creating the metric/dimension thing

[cinder flare]

surely I could implement that into this thiccy object?

[old wyvern]

Which one star?

line no. plz

[cinder flare]

starting 528

the other switch statement

[gusty fulcrum]

is there any downsides to using NBT data on items?

[old wyvern]

oh god

Yea probably

[hot hull]

k so now I need to draw an image of my terrain, and then update the image to the buffer

How hard can that be

[cinder flare]

oh but I can only define string: string pairs eh

not actual like methods

[old wyvern]

wdym?

[cinder flare]

in the object thing?

[old wyvern]

You can have functions inside js objects

yes

[cinder flare]

i can only declare maps right?

i mean per map object

i can put functions inside of each separate one?

[old wyvern]

Yes

[steel heart]

Yeah I mean a downside can be that it is stored persistently

[cinder flare]

woah woah

gimme a code sample

[old wyvern]

Of a function in a js object?

[cinder flare]

like, combine the two switch statements like you did above for just the one

[old wyvern]

Lemme see

[cinder flare]

one ultimate class that holds all relevant information

[gusty fulcrum]

but will it actually cause any performance issues?

[old wyvern]

I feel like it might still look weird

Maybe map it to actual functions

Gimme a moment

[cinder flare]

god yugi if you can save me you'd be a true hero

like if you can map a string key to a function

[hot hull]

Oh yea we're back at libgdx

[cinder flare]

i bet that's possible right? javascript is really janky

[steel heart]

If we assume they’re stored persistently that means it writes and reads IO at some point (takes some performance altho insignificant) and nevertheless can it be corrupted also

[old wyvern]

https://paste.helpch.at/gacaliyibu.ts

This would be the one with inline function there

[cinder flare]

can I not put it inside the other one?

[gusty fulcrum]

Okay thank you

[old wyvern]

But id recommend writing the functions separately and just mapping there so the functions dont look horrible

[old wyvern]

wdym?

[cinder flare]

var configuration = {
    'LogonTrackerVersion' : {
          'id'   : 'LogonTrackerVersion',
          'name' : 'LogonTracker Version',
          'type' : dsTypes.NUMBER,
     },
    'ProcessTrackerStatus' : {
          'id'   : 'ProcessTrackerStatus',
          'name' : 'ProcessTracker Status',
          'type' : dsTypes.TEXT,
     },
    'ProcessTrackerVersion' : {
          'id'   : 'ProcessTrackerVersion',
          'name' : 'ProcessTracker Version',
          'type' : dsTypes.NUMBER,
     },```

can I not put those functions in that

[old wyvern]

Are those fiedl id's the same?

[cinder flare]

yes

[old wyvern]

They look different

I cant find LogonTrackerVersion in the other switch

[cinder flare]

Line 644

[old wyvern]

on alrighty

[cinder flare]

it is literally copy pasted

[old wyvern]

Thn just add another field to it

[cinder flare]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

this might be good

cause 99% of these are one liners anyways

and I can just add squiggly brackets surely?

'hostName' : (entity) => {
  entity['hostname']
}

[old wyvern]

https://paste.helpch.at/oqupayeham.coffeescript

yes

You can have them be multiline

You can even use the normal function syntax

But I recommend just sticking with the lambda syntax

[cinder flare]

i do like lambdas

god damn Yugi you're the best

thanks so much

[old wyvern]

There might be some difference with what it captures for this tho

I dont remember well

Try that out somewhere first maybe

I think I read somewhere that the capture is different

[old wyvern]

😇

[cinder flare]

oh shoot it doesn't take the overarching boi as this?

hmmm

best way to embed the dimension vs metric?

just make a boolean and call two separate methods in the builder?

https://i.imgur.com/j6Ur24f.png

also it uses the right this as far as I can tell

[old wyvern]

Yea a factory function basically

[cinder flare]

okay so I don't know what that is

[old wyvern]

Give a few mins

Having lunch

[cinder flare]

okay sick tysm

[jovial warren]

anyone know if there's an easy way to do wildcards with curl or wget? trying to make a script to download the Krypton JAR, but it's named Krypton-VERSION.jar, and there's no way for my script to be able to figure out the version without already knowing it

[cinder flare]

you can literally do wildcards in bash

[jovial warren]

I need them in curl

since I need to download a file from the web

[cinder flare]

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/479900-how-do-i-use-wildcards-for-curl-upload

just write a basic script for it!

[jovial warren]

yeah that won't work here

since this isn't a standard directory listing

[cinder flare]

surely there's a way to get the directory listing of a web server

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4496182/getting-directory-listing-over-http/4503248

[jovial warren]

I wonder if Jenkins' API allows me to query all artifacts from a build

[cinder flare]

oh probably

you want to download the latest one I presume?

try http://example.com/jenkins/job/my-job/lastBuild

[jovial warren]

dw I got this

[old wyvern]

https://paste.helpch.at/ewafekaqex.ts

That should be it

just call build on any parameter then

[cinder flare]

could I not just... put that inline?

[old wyvern]

configuration[id].build()

[cinder flare]

    'primaryIpv4Address' : {
        'dim'   : (fields) => fields.newDimension(),
        'id'    : 'primaryIpv4Address',
        'name'  : 'Primary IPv4 Address',
        'type'  : dsTypes.TEXT,
        'data'  : (entity) => entity[this.id]
    },```

that's what I've been doing

though build is a better name ngl

[old wyvern]

Well youd end up with a lot of unneccessary functions

[cinder flare]

oh I see

[old wyvern]

And refactoring that at some point will be hard

If it all points to the same function, you can just modify that if needed

Wouldnt have been nice if it was possible to keep this file separte tbh xD

[cinder flare]

so i'd do like, configuration[id].build().setId(configuration[id].id).setName(configuration[id].name).setType(configurationId[id].type)

[old wyvern]

Maybe with some compiler

webpack can inline to a single source right?

[cinder flare]

afaik, Google Apps Script just literally copy pastes any code you write in another file into the main one

[stuck harbor]

christ

[old wyvern]

Yes

[cinder flare]

same as C importing

[stuck harbor]

at some point you shouldn't oneline things

[cinder flare]

that's a lot better than what it is now

that won't be one line

[old wyvern]

Yea thats fine

[cinder flare]

it will be prettily indented

[old wyvern]

Only the visible sources clarity matters

[cinder flare]

oh so I can make another file to declare all my shit?

[jovial warren]

hey star

[old wyvern]

Atleast for this, if possible

[jovial warren]

wanna see the script I wrote?

[cinder flare]

yes

ooooh i am hyped Yugi

[old wyvern]

😇

[jovial warren]

#!/bin/bash

BASE_URL="https://ci.kryptonmc.org/job/Krypton/lastSuccessfulBuild"
ARTIFACT=`curl "${BASE_URL}/api/json?tree=artifacts%5BrelativePath%5D" | jq '.artifacts[0].relativePath' | sed 's/"//g'`

curl -o Krypton.jar "${BASE_URL}/artifact/${ARTIFACT}"

[stuck harbor]

hm

not terrible

[cinder flare]

ah now that's pretty nice

[stuck harbor]

I would make the user do it manually cause you are their overlord and you need to assert dominance

make things too easy for the user and they might start thinking for themselves

they might even start to PR

[old wyvern]

ew kypton

🥲

https://tenor.com/view/dr-house-gregory-house-oops-gif-6118887

[stuck harbor]

also i think I see jenkins

[cinder flare]

okay how tf do I import another file in TypeScript

[stuck harbor]

start using go then do that

[old wyvern]

Does google appscript inline it by itself?

[cinder flare]

probably?

[old wyvern]

If not, you might need a compiler beforehand

[cinder flare]

but I need it to know that my other class exists in my IDE

the clasp utility converts it down to GoogleScript

[old wyvern]

Alright

Look into its doc

Most probably either require or import i assume

[cinder flare]

Warning: Apps Script's runtime/execution is different than Node or web browsers. In particular, you cannot use the terms export or require in the same way you would with Node. You cannot use window like in web browsers.

bruh

[old wyvern]

Some posts seem to suggest appscript doesnt require the import statement

Try creating a second file and trying to use variables from it in your main one

https://developers.google.com/apps-script/guides/import-export#features_and_limitations

[cinder flare]

https://github.com/google/clasp/blob/master/docs/typescript.md#modules-exports-and-imports

[jovial warren]

oh btw, Krypton Pterodactyl egg anyone?

[old wyvern]

8th point

[cinder flare]

read my link

I used the exports thing and it's working so nice

[old wyvern]

Oh alright

[cinder flare]

#827055634586271775 message

$1 for an entire minigame server, anyone?

[jovial warren]

lol

[eternal compass]

@jovial warren Will Krypton have a built in anticheat? (Better than vanillas)

[jovial warren]

lol

[eternal compass]

Not a perfect one by an means

But one that stops very blatent things

[jovial warren]

it won't allow invalid packets at all

[eternal compass]

So no forge?

[jovial warren]

doesn't Forge append something to the handshake packet?

I think it puts FML in the address, which will break Krypton completely

[eternal compass]

Uh it might actually

[jovial warren]

I will add support for those null-separated strings though at some point, since I need to for Bungee support

[eternal compass]

But like a max packets setting aswell

[jovial warren]

yeah there will be rate limiting if I can get it to work

[eternal compass]

Cool

And are ticks a thing?

[jovial warren]

yeah

unfortunately

[eternal compass]

:( ok

[jovial warren]

packets aren't handled in ticking though, that's why rate limiting packets/s might be difficult

[cinder flare]

bro calm down, Bardy doesn't even have a fully functioning game yet, let him think about anticheat after it works lol

[eternal compass]

Lol ik, was just wondering

[jovial warren]

lol fair

[eternal compass]

So a low TPS won't make pvp awful?

[jovial warren]

player movement won't be limited by the tick scheduler's speed

[eternal compass]

Nice

[jovial warren]

that's handled asynchronously with the power of Netty

[eternal compass]

ooh

[jovial warren]

no packets will be handled sync generally

they're handled from the Netty thread that calls the handle function

[eternal compass]

Mhm, ok

[jovial warren]

if you've got time I can show you what it's like so far if you want

[eternal compass]

Ok, sure

[jovial warren]

test.kryptonmc.org
1.16.5 pure vanilla

and I just found a bug, yay

[eternal compass]

Ok, gimme a min

windows is updating

😦

[cinder flare]

how do I loop over every item in that object?

[jovial warren]

when you try to make things cleaner and you just break them

[old wyvern]

Use Object.keys or Object.values depending on what you need

Pass your object as an argument

so like