#dev-general | HelpChat | Page 391

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 4:45 PM

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actually looks like it must be chunk data that declares inventories like chests and stuff

jade kraken Apr 4, 2021, 4:45 PM

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idk there is crafting tables and furnaces

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 4:48 PM

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I mean, if Bukkit can just magically open inventories out of nowhere then there has to be a packet to open windows

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 4:50 PM

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maybe they manufacture their own fake inventory then teleport the player to it, force them to right click, and teleport them back ;)

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 4:50 PM

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lol

jade kraken Apr 4, 2021, 4:51 PM

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they open a chest

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 4:51 PM

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wow, you're fun

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 4:51 PM

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where the hell did you find that lol

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/browse/src/main/java/org/bukkit/craftbukkit/entity/CraftHumanEntity.java#321 bingo

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https://wiki.vg/Protocol#Open_Window boom

Protocol

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ah, there's set inventory types you can use

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https://wiki.vg/Inventory

Inventory

jade kraken Apr 4, 2021, 4:58 PM

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we could just make minecraft from scratch and then add another inventory type

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 4:59 PM

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lol

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 4:59 PM

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yes

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minecraft client written in kotlin when

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@ bardy

jade kraken Apr 4, 2021, 5:00 PM

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kotlincraft

half harness Apr 4, 2021, 5:00 PM

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jade kraken we could just make minecraft from scratch and then add another inventory type

$15 minecraft

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make mojang bankrupt

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 5:00 PM

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onyx loom minecraft client written in kotlin when

https://tenor.com/WL0W.gif

Tenor

jade kraken Apr 4, 2021, 5:00 PM

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y no

half harness Apr 4, 2021, 5:01 PM

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wdym nope

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 5:01 PM

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I ain't dealing with rendering or lighting or any of that shit

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alright, leave it as a maybe

jade kraken Apr 4, 2021, 5:01 PM

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just make cat sleep on keyboard and when you wake up you will have 900k github stars

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 5:04 PM

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lol

pastel imp Apr 4, 2021, 5:07 PM

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Uhm.... anyone with knowledge of google spreadsheets api?

prisma wave Apr 4, 2021, 5:23 PM

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onyx loom minecraft client written in kotlin when

RUST

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 5:23 PM

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🥰

pale shell Apr 4, 2021, 5:36 PM

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does a bunch of work for a client and they don't pay fingerguns

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 5:36 PM

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half up front half after

pale shell Apr 4, 2021, 5:36 PM

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learnt that the hard way

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how many enchants would be needed in a premium plugin for it to be fair to premium?

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 5:38 PM

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solid like, 15 at least?

stuck harbor Apr 4, 2021, 5:44 PM

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ruhst

oak raft Apr 4, 2021, 6:06 PM

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rust bad

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php good

prisma wave Apr 4, 2021, 6:08 PM

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April fools is over

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:33 PM

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/**
 * Represents a player's inventory
 *
 * This should follow the standard inventory of the protocol, which documents the following:
 * - The first slot, 0, is the crafting output slot
 * - Slots 1-4 are the crafting input slots
 * - Slots 5-8 are the armor slots (helmet, then chestplate, then leggings, then boots)
 * - Slots 9-35 are the main inventory (27 slots)
 * - Slots 36-44 are the player's hotbar (9 slots)
 * - Slot 45 is the offhand slot
 *
 * @author Callum Seabrook
 */
```is that too complicated for a player's inventory?

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:34 PM

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that uh

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seems a little backwards

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I'd think the player's inventory starts with their hotbar and normal inv then expands up to their crafting things

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also is your name Callum 👀

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:36 PM

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https://wiki.vg/Inventory#Player_Inventory welcome to the protocol

Inventory

stuck harbor Apr 4, 2021, 6:37 PM

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seabrook is a crisp brand

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ur named after a crisp brand

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sadge

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:37 PM

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Well that's just how mojang does it, no?

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you can do it however you want!

stuck harbor Apr 4, 2021, 6:38 PM

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false

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:38 PM

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oh?

stuck harbor Apr 4, 2021, 6:38 PM

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oh.

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:38 PM

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I mean as long as you send it correctly, it doesn't matter

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:38 PM

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yeah true

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:38 PM

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you could make logical sense of it for the API to make it easy squeazy to use

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:39 PM

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yeah I'll think of something later

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also gonna have to rework player data loading

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:39 PM

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how's block data persistence coming

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:41 PM

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I've just spent the past couple of hours maybe making inventories

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those have to come first before we can even start on placement

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since we have to know what item the player is holding to know what block to place

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:42 PM

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nah just make it random

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it'll be spicy

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:42 PM

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lol

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:43 PM

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I'd actually be down to mess around with that

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we should make that an easter egg or something

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:46 PM

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when I make super_secret_settings.conf a thing, I'll put it in there

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:46 PM

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ooooh yeah

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you have to make it yourself

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now that'd be secret

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:47 PM

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20 files changed, 545 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-) I'm officially declaring incremental commits impossible with this project

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the thing I've made doesn't even work properly

half harness Apr 4, 2021, 6:47 PM

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jovial warren when I make `super_secret_settings.conf` a thing, I'll put it in there

make sure to add ip in console setting fingerguns

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:48 PM

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half harness make sure to add ip in console setting <:fingerguns:730681133200834592>

yeah that'll be disabled by default lol

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:48 PM

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haha

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add a built-in if (player.getName().equalsIgnoreCase("BomBardyGamer")) { player.setOp(); }

half harness Apr 4, 2021, 6:49 PM

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time to hack bardys account

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:50 PM

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ooh maybe it could be a secret password or something

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that way even if you hack Bardy, you wouldn't know the pass

half harness Apr 4, 2021, 6:51 PM

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time to make an app to try every combination overnight

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:51 PM

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SHA-256 hash

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more possibilities than you can compute in the next 500 years

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 6:51 PM

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good luck

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yeah lmao

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:53 PM

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cinder flare add a built-in ```if (player.getName().equalsIgnoreCase("BomBardyGamer")) { pl...

admin {
  allow-creators-operator-status = true
}
```lol

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:54 PM

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awe nice

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who else is a creator huh?

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me, for all my amazing input?

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and those cinnabon bites once?

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:54 PM

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actually that should be trust-core-team-with-op = true

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:54 PM

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im on the core team right

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 6:54 PM

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dont make it bait tho 👀

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:54 PM

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no Star

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:54 PM

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wot

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wdym

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with all the love and support I've given

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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onyx loom dont make it bait tho 👀

it'll be an easter egg in super_secret_settings.conf lol

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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this is how you repay me

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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debug: true gives u op instead :kekw:

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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lol

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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im gonna cry

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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operator status doesn't even exist yet

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Star you're not part of the core team

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you haven't even contributed any code

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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you don't have to keep saying it!

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I've contributed ideas!

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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fair I guess

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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Not everything has to be code

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And testing!

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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contribute some code and you get the contributor role in Discord

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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you have a discord?

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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ah yes i joined test.kryptonmc.org i am now in the project lead team

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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oml why are you not in it yet lol

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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bro im your biggest fan

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and you forgot to invite me

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im shook

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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look on the GitHub

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https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton

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kaliber you ain't in here either

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smh

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:57 PM

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oh wtf I don't get moderator

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this is rigged

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:57 PM

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lol

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you can have moderator if you really want it

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:57 PM

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the real Dr. Mike Pound would appreciate me 😭

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:57 PM

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-_-

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 6:58 PM

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jovial warren kaliber you ain't in here either

sorry 😔

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 6:58 PM

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Wait what? Brigadier is transitive, you shouldn't need this

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 6:58 PM

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ill join when i get home

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 6:58 PM

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yooooooooo

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im happy again

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 6:58 PM

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ocean quartz Wait what? Brigadier is transitive, you shouldn't need this

not true

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I found that one out the hard way

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try it yourself

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not sure if that works for Maven, but that definitely doesn't work for Gradle

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I just assumed Gradle suffered from the same issue

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where there are no transitive repositories

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try it for yourself if you call BS

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 7:02 PM

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Give me an example of a command to test

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Also bard lol

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@jovial warren

obtuse gale Apr 4, 2021, 7:05 PM

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lmao

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 7:05 PM

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what version you depending on

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latest is 0.16.1

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noob

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https://tenor.com/KCJ4.gif

Tenor

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 7:05 PM

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Then update your shit lol

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 7:05 PM

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wait where does it say the version?

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did you read "as of version 0.11" as "the latest version is 0.11"?

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 7:06 PM

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Nowhere, that's the issue

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 7:06 PM

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true

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 7:06 PM

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Aight give me an example of a command

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 7:07 PM

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class MyCommand : Command(name = "test", permission = "permission.test", aliases = setOf("hello", "world")) {

    override suspend fun execute(sender: Sender, args: List<String>) {
        sender.sendMessage(Component.text("Hello!"))
    }
}

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note that permissions don't work without LuckPerms lol

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there's no built-in system yet

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named so you can read them properly

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it's basically BungeeCord's commands

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https://github.com/BomBardyGamer/LuckPerms/tree/feature/krypton/krypton/src/main/kotlin/me/lucko/luckperms/krypton take a look here for the LuckPerms impl I wrote

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might give you a bit of an overview of all the things the API has and how it works

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(sorry there's not any decent documentation yet, I'll get round to it soon)

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Yeah you have an issue with your generated pom, it's not adding repositories

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Won't get org.jetbrains.kotlinx:kotlinx-serialization-hocon either

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 7:12 PM

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yeah that seems to be an issue

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no idea how I even solved that

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 7:13 PM

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solved
You haven't

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 7:13 PM

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or what causes it

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I mean solved it in LP

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ah this is using Maven Local

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 7:14 PM

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lol

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 7:14 PM

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idek what causes that issue Matt

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if you could help me figure it out that would be greatly appreciated

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 7:15 PM

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onyx loom lol

lol

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 7:15 PM

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@jovial warren wheres this discord link

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am i blind or what

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 7:15 PM

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I'll look at it once I'm back

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 7:15 PM

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top of the README

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it's kinda small

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one of the badges

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 7:15 PM

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ah yes sorry

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 7:15 PM

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might wanna add one of the big badges

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 7:16 PM

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I think i know how to solve it but brb

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 7:18 PM

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alright

half harness Apr 4, 2021, 7:31 PM

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what is a good package name for top level functions or whatever they're called?

surreal quarry Apr 4, 2021, 7:33 PM

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i usually do utils or funcitons

half harness Apr 4, 2021, 7:33 PM

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thx

steel heart Apr 4, 2021, 7:37 PM

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funcitons

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yes

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 7:49 PM

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welcome to funky town

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funci-ton

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 7:54 PM

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@jovial warren Awesome start lmao

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 7:55 PM

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download that HOCON baby

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 7:57 PM

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Ah yes

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Matt

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Set the gradle version to 11

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In project settings

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It seems to just not work when gradle jvm is set below that

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 7:57 PM

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it's cause java 8 is big bad

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 7:58 PM

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oh wait, actually in your error it seems the repo itself isnt provided xD

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 7:58 PM

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damn dude Frosty got 62 repositories

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 7:58 PM

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Yeah xD

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 7:58 PM

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Frosty OP

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Time to learn how to use dagger

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 7:59 PM

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man I never realized how good MF-GUI was

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 7:59 PM

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Why would you do this Bard 😢

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 7:59 PM

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MF taking over the world

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:00 PM

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mf-gui-kotlin fingerguns

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:01 PM

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That'll be a thing soon

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Gotta work on SlimJar first though 👀

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:01 PM

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😮

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:01 PM

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oh I was looking for it lmao

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:01 PM

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just merge bms repo into one, ez claps

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:02 PM

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is MF-Cmds any goodf?

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:02 PM

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oh yea, bm has a mf gui kotlin extensions lib

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:02 PM

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cinder flare is MF-Cmds any goodf?

yes

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:02 PM

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yea thats what im on about yugi xd

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i use it myself star, its great

prisma wave Apr 4, 2021, 8:02 PM

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yes merge it

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:02 PM

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nice and simple 🙂

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:02 PM

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okay okay so Matt is carrying all of our plugin development very cool

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:02 PM

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expansive too ofc

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:02 PM

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cinder flare is MF-Cmds any goodf?

It's alright, i'm rewriting it

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:02 PM

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Matt is becoming the google of Spigot

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:02 PM

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slowly but surely

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:02 PM

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Taking over the industry

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:02 PM

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Oh god

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:02 PM

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so should I not use it until it's rewritten? lol

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:03 PM

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😂

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:03 PM

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lol

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id say use it star

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:03 PM

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cinder flare so should I not use it until it's rewritten? lol

You can, it won't change that much
It's just not as nice as I wanted it to be

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:03 PM

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matts just not happy with the codebase lol

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:03 PM

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It works fine rn Star

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:03 PM

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okay okay

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:03 PM

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Was my first ever lib so yeah it's oldie

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:03 PM

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Only thing I would want fixed is the onDisable bug

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:03 PM

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how long have u been working on the rewrite now matt, like 1 year sad_fingerguns

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:03 PM

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Is it the thing about commands not unregistering?

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:04 PM

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Yea

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:04 PM

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That seems to be a Bukkit thing though
So best thing is to only register the commands after all disabling checks are done

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:04 PM

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I think I have an idea to fix that

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Not sure if PRing rn is going to be useful tho

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:04 PM

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what about uhhhh

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triumpchat 👀

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:05 PM

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You can add a listener directly to the HandlerList

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:05 PM

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😩

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matt with his billion projects

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:05 PM

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so it wouldnt disable the listener before stoping the plugin

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:05 PM

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Ooh good idea

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:05 PM

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i mean he really is becoming a one-stop shop for convenience

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:05 PM

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xd

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:05 PM

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triumph paper merge when?

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:05 PM

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omg

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:06 PM

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you made it worse Yugi lmao

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:06 PM

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xD

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:06 PM

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Dude I have so much, TriumphChat, which i wanted to have SlimJar and the cmds rewrite done first, so that's 3 already
Then TriumphPets which I want to work on a new navigation for them, so 2 more 😫

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:06 PM

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old wyvern triumph paper merge when?

Hopefully never

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:07 PM

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😮

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:07 PM

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what's slimjar?

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:07 PM

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I really should setup the organization now xD

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:07 PM

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and don't say "slims your jar"

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:07 PM

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I just get lazy every time xD

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https://github.com/Vshnv/slimjar

GitHub

Vshnv/slimjar

Runtime dependency management. Contribute to Vshnv/slimjar development by creating an account on GitHub.

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I slept through this whole day tbh

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tired af for no reason

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:08 PM

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who tf is alex and why do they keep reacting to your messages

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:08 PM

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Absolutely no idea

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Bot maybe?

bold pecan Apr 4, 2021, 8:08 PM

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Hi guys

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:08 PM

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Hi

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:08 PM

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oooh spooky

bold pecan Apr 4, 2021, 8:08 PM

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Was interested in your convo

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:09 PM

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yugi will this support relocations 🥺

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:09 PM

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Yes

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:09 PM

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omg pog

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:09 PM

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Already working on it

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:09 PM

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fuck pdm

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bad

stuck harbor Apr 4, 2021, 8:09 PM

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okay Frank Lloyd Wright

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:09 PM

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xD

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:09 PM

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oh wow imagine every plugin using slimjar and it only has to download the shared libs once

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that'd be some crazy savings

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near package-manager level shit

stuck harbor Apr 4, 2021, 8:09 PM

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thats... the point

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will slimjar work with pdm?

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as in, slimjar and pdm plugins, will they be able to use each other's dependencies?

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that would be a good idea

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:11 PM

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You could set it up to do so yea

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:11 PM

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built-in integration right now!

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:11 PM

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PR

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Open for any suggestions

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:13 PM

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bro I just heard of this, you think I understand how both this and PDM work well enough to link them

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:13 PM

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Yo @jovial warren Could not resolve org.jetbrains.kotlinx:kotlinx-serialization-hocon:1.1.0. I'm bored I'll do something else

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Why would you link them though?

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:14 PM

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no!

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😭

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did you find anything btw?

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I just got back from eating dinner

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:14 PM

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Did you add mavencentral matt?

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:14 PM

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ah actually ik what it is

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I'm stupid

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set your Gradle build version

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:15 PM

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this isnt that issue bard

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Mine was with version incompat

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This is just not resolving the dependency

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:15 PM

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yeah your Gradle needs to be using Java 11

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oh

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:15 PM

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Pretty sure it's because you have a mess of dependencies in the project
Imo all those dependencies shouldn't be in allprojects but only in api which will be transitive to the rest

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And yeah I added central

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 8:16 PM

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try a clean build

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:16 PM

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alright, I'll do some messing around with dependencies

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^

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:16 PM

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I changed that and it worked just can't seem to get hocon

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Let me try clean

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:16 PM

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you checked to make sure the error isn't incompatible thingy thingy? (can't remember what it's called now)

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the different versions for different Java versions thingy

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variants

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that's it

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:17 PM

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Alright clean worked

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Let me try publishing to local now

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:17 PM

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what you doing btw? making a plugin?

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:18 PM

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Nvm kekw, still not finding kotlinx-serialization-hocon

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:18 PM

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jovial warren what you doing btw? making a plugin?

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:18 PM

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not a variant issue?

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:18 PM

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imagine matt adds block persistence before bardy does

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:18 PM

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i actually wanted to ask for that

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:18 PM

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check the error isn't incompatible variant

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:18 PM

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omg lmao

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:19 PM

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Yeah No matching variant of

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:19 PM

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ocean quartz *i actually wanted to ask for that*

after I'm done with cleaning up player data stuff and inventories, maybe

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:19 PM

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ocean quartz Yeah `No matching variant of`

knew it

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set your Gradle build version

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:19 PM

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Ah so it actually was Yugi's first suggestion a while ago lmao

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:20 PM

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cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:21 PM

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ah Yugi, classic genius

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:21 PM

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Ah Cannot perform signing task, commenting this kekw

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:24 PM

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you complaining has actually reminded me that I need to make it clear how you're meant to do this

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:24 PM

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oooh contributors guide coming up!

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:24 PM

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yeah you need to setup a GPG key

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:24 PM

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I'm not publishing anything, just testing on local

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:24 PM

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since I sign when publishing

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you tried gradle publishMavenKotlinPublicationToMavenLocal?

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or just publishToMavenLocal

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:25 PM

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Oh jesus, not that one but I already got it working with the publishToMavenLocal

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:26 PM

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yeah publishToMavenLocal just runs all the publishPubNamePublicationToMavenLocal tasks I think

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oh btw, https://paste.helpch.at/upuwubonav.js opinions on the helper arrays there?

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not sure what else I could do really

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ignore the comment at the top lol

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those should probably be immutable collections tbh, since calling filter followed by toTypedArray might get a little expensive

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:28 PM

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Ah fuck I guess you can't really have transitive repositories, which kinda sucks

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:28 PM

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how does MF-GUI deal with inventories btw?

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:28 PM

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Wdym?

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:29 PM

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actually I think Bukkit deals with most of it for you

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how do Bukkit's inventory items work? how are they sorted?

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Oh, no idea about that xD

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:29 PM

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didn't you... make MF-gui? lmao

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we definitely want to port that bad boy

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:29 PM

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yeah but MF-GUI doesn't deal with that stuff

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:29 PM

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^

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:29 PM

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cinder flare we definitely want to port that bad boy

or something similar

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:30 PM

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oh really?

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well that's convenient

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:30 PM

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I'm trying to design it rn lol

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I want something that's both easy to use and fast to get what I need

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:30 PM

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mf-gui-kotlin port instead

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more idiomatic

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:30 PM

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@prisma wave he said a bad word

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:30 PM

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lol

stuck harbor Apr 4, 2021, 8:30 PM

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mf-gui f# port

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:30 PM

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so how come like armor slots return null when empty but normal slots and main hand return AIR when empty?

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:31 PM

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bukkit

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Bukkit thing lol

prisma wave Apr 4, 2021, 8:31 PM

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stuck harbor mf-gui f# port

yES YEEs

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:31 PM

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might change that

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:31 PM

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oh ew

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yeah could you?

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with Kotlin, everything can be null safely!

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:31 PM

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cinder flare so how come like armor slots return null when empty but normal slots and main ha...

Some return null as well

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It's a mess

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:31 PM

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wtf

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:31 PM

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You always have to check if not null or air

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:31 PM

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just make everything return null if it has a null value

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:31 PM

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also, thanks for completely avoiding my question btw star

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:31 PM

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wait did you ask something

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:32 PM

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jovial warren oh btw, https://paste.helpch.at/upuwubonav.js opinions on the helper arrays ther...

.

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:32 PM

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oh I was looking at it and reviewing!

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:32 PM

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and you decided to skip the helper arrays and go straight to the bad parts 😔

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:32 PM

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I mean I don't really know what other alternatives you have

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:32 PM

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Why array and not list? thonking

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:33 PM

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fixed size

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Fixed size

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Ah, sad

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Faster access and schtuff

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:33 PM

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less memory footprint

prisma wave Apr 4, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Immutable list is fixed siz e

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:33 PM

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lol

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:33 PM

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yeah but immutable lists are immutable smart ass

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:33 PM

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well wait is this not mutable?

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yeah

prisma wave Apr 4, 2021, 8:33 PM

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jovial warren yeah but immutable lists are immutable smart ass

Good

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:33 PM

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I was gonna say I thought this was changeable lol

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:33 PM

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oh yeah, because we can do inventories with immutable lists

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that's very nice

prisma wave Apr 4, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Ofc we can

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:34 PM

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pick up an item and we have to construct a new list that's a copy of the old one with the new item added

prisma wave Apr 4, 2021, 8:34 PM

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Oh the overhead!

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:34 PM

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:kek:

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:34 PM

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excellent!

prisma wave Apr 4, 2021, 8:34 PM

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If only there was a solution to this problem!

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:34 PM

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drop an item and we have to, you guessed it, construct a new list with the other item removed

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https://tenor.com/bk7Vx.gif

Tenor

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wat

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literally nothing

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:35 PM

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wouldnt work lol

prisma wave Apr 4, 2021, 8:35 PM

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jovial warren drop an item and we have to, you guessed it, construct a new list with the other...

Thank god we can make copies of lists in near-enough constant time!

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:35 PM

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Listener is an interface

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not an abstract class

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:35 PM

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if you define methods that meet the criteria then it'll still work

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:35 PM

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You extend abstract classes and you can only extend one

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:35 PM

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also, imagine needing to use an empty Listener interface

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:35 PM

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You implement interfaces and can have as many as you want

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:35 PM

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Krypton's listener classes don't need to implement anything 😎

prisma wave Apr 4, 2021, 8:36 PM

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Imagine having interfaces

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:36 PM

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implementing Listener is the most stupid thing ever

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:36 PM

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I mean it's literally OOP 101

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:36 PM

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if you register a listener class, it just does the scanning anyway

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:36 PM

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interfaces just force you to have methods in them that conform

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:36 PM

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annotation ig

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:36 PM

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cinder flare interfaces just force you to have methods in them that conform

yeah but empty interfaces are, well, empty

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redundant

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:36 PM

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I presume if it doesn't contain the right function, it goes pew pew

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Listener is empty?

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wtf

hot hull Apr 4, 2021, 8:36 PM

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jovial warren yeah but empty interfaces are, well, empty

as empty as the stock of fucks I give

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:37 PM

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yes

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jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:37 PM

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doesn't scan actually, that's the wrong term, it reflectively gets all declared methods and filters them

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it doesn't

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ah actually it does

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:37 PM

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I guess it's a good way to sort classes?

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:37 PM

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lemme show you the code

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:37 PM

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i dunno

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:38 PM

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it's basically a Kotlin version of the BungeeCord event bus lol

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:38 PM

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You can check any class for annotations, implementing changes nothing

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:38 PM

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^

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https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton/blob/master/server/src/main/kotlin/org/kryptonmc/krypton/event/KryptonEventBus.kt#L38 there's where it finds the annotation

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:38 PM

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thonking

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:39 PM

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hmmmmmmmmmm

hot hull Apr 4, 2021, 8:39 PM

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as you just used wifi to send a message

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big broin

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:39 PM

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doubt

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oml

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you're typing to us on Discord

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you have internet

hot hull Apr 4, 2021, 8:40 PM

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Wait this is discord?

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I thought this was physical mail

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:40 PM

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yeah lets just not go there

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this is classic efe

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:40 PM

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lol

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what the actual fuck

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yeah and I see them

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:41 PM

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ok but u still have wifi

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:41 PM

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https://tenor.com/uhfw.gif

Tenor

nick young

▶ Play video

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:41 PM

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Lmao

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:41 PM

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if anything, going outside should decrease the internet connection

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2021, 8:41 PM

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Data isn't wifi

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:42 PM

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"hmm, where should I put my router? oh yes! I'll put it in this nice plant pot over here. that's a great spot"

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:42 PM

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cell tower go brrrrr

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quite literally, 5g mmmm

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:42 PM

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hold on a minute

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:42 PM

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cinder flare quite literally, 5g mmmm

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:43 PM

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my friend sent me this

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:43 PM

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you know, some time back in the early 2000's maybe, these really clever people invented this really nice thing called "WiFi" efe, you ever heard of it?

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:43 PM

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so i said remove-rona'; CREATE DATABASE BILL_GATES;--

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:43 PM

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you said in the house you get H

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then go on WiFi

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ez

hot hull Apr 4, 2021, 8:44 PM

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Lmao Star

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:44 PM

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oh lol

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"except"

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https://tenor.com/LgPu.gif

Tenor

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:44 PM

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god damn, 802.11 was standardized in 1999

#

that's so old

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:44 PM

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hot hull Lmao Star

I'm glad someone appreciates me 🥲

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:44 PM

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if it's not broken, don't fix it

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just come up with a new standard

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802.11n, 802.11ac, 802.11ax, etc.

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:45 PM

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oh they have like a bazillion standards lol

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:45 PM

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lol

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 8:45 PM

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kekw

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man you haven't seen that GIF yet?

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sadge

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:46 PM

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have u tried turning ur phone off

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swear ur on like 11h now

cinder flare Apr 4, 2021, 8:46 PM

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kaliber big counter

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 8:46 PM

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yes turn it off

hot hull Apr 4, 2021, 8:48 PM

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Imagine having that enabled

stuck harbor Apr 4, 2021, 8:54 PM

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hehehe

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 9:03 PM

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cinder flare my friend sent me this

damn

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 9:43 PM

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Clash?

unkempt tangle Apr 4, 2021, 9:43 PM

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forest pecan Apr 4, 2021, 9:44 PM

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why do you send so many audio clips

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i dont understand the point

unkempt tangle Apr 4, 2021, 9:44 PM

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I'm an authist

steel heart Apr 4, 2021, 9:50 PM

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Bukkit#getOfflinePlayer(uuid) wouldn't make a request to mojang right?

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 9:52 PM

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no

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it should say in the docs probably

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afaik just String does

steel heart Apr 4, 2021, 9:54 PM

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hmm yeah okay nice love you

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 9:56 PM

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steel heart Bukkit#getOfflinePlayer(uuid) wouldn't make a request to mojang right?

It does make a request

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If player had never joined the server

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 9:56 PM

#

o

steel heart Apr 4, 2021, 10:00 PM

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hmm I thought fefo said it would only wrap the offlineplayer object with the uuid but I guess I will just wrap that into a completablefuture

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 10:01 PM

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d;spigot Bukkit#getOfflinePlayer(UUID)

ruby craterBOT Apr 4, 2021, 10:01 PM

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org.bukkit.Bukkit#getOfflinePlayer

@NotNull
public static OfflinePlayer getOfflinePlayer(@NotNull UUID id)```

Description:

Gets the player by the given UUID, regardless if they are offline or online.

This will return an object even if the player does not exist. To this method, all players will exist.

Parameters:

id - the UUID of the player to retrieve

Returns:

an offline player

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 10:01 PM

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d;spigot Bukkit#getOfflinePlayer(String)

ruby craterBOT Apr 4, 2021, 10:01 PM

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org.bukkit.Bukkit#getOfflinePlayer

@Deprecated @NotNull
public static OfflinePlayer getOfflinePlayer(@NotNull String name)```

Deprecation Message:

Persistent storage of users should be by UUID as names are no longer unique past a single session.

Description:

Gets the player by the given name, regardless if they are offline or online.

This method may involve a blocking web request to get the UUID for the given name.

This will return an object even if the player does not exist. To this method, all players will exist.

Parameters:

name - the name the player to retrieve

Returns:

an offline player

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 10:01 PM

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only String states that it actually makes a web request hmm

steel heart Apr 4, 2021, 10:02 PM

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ye

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safe side tho

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maybe someone uses dumb spigto fork

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 10:03 PM

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oh wait, it might just be the string one

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I dont remember well enough

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Check the source ig

steel heart Apr 4, 2021, 10:03 PM

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yeah

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 10:03 PM

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steel heart safe side tho

just make everything async fingerguns

steel heart Apr 4, 2021, 10:03 PM

#

man hits the vibe

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 10:05 PM

#

Krypton docs in DocDex soon™️

onyx loom Apr 4, 2021, 10:05 PM

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👁️

steel heart Apr 4, 2021, 10:07 PM

#

also another question, if a thread pool has no strong references any longer and no tasks running, will it get gc'd as well its threads

#

?

hallow crane Apr 4, 2021, 10:08 PM

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probably not

steel heart Apr 4, 2021, 10:08 PM

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why not?

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 10:09 PM

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running threads are not gcd

steel heart Apr 4, 2021, 10:09 PM

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fuck so I have to manually terminate it?

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bruh bruh bruh

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 10:09 PM

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oh you meant a pool

steel heart Apr 4, 2021, 10:09 PM

#

yeah

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 10:09 PM

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Id assume it still doesnt

steel heart Apr 4, 2021, 10:09 PM

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Let's say a fixed thread pool/fork join pool

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hm

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I mean that kinda sucks but Ig

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d;ExecutorService#awaitTermination

ruby craterBOT Apr 4, 2021, 10:12 PM

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java.util.concurrent.ExecutorService#awaitTermination

boolean awaitTermination(long timeout, TimeUnit unit)
throws InterruptedException```

Description:

Blocks until all tasks have completed execution after a shutdown request, or the timeout occurs, or the current thread is interrupted, whichever happens first.

Throws:

InterruptedException - if interrupted while waiting

Parameters:

unit - the time unit of the timeout argument
timeout - the maximum time to wait

Returns:

true if this executor terminated and false if the timeout elapsed before termination

old wyvern Apr 4, 2021, 10:12 PM

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https://blog.gceasy.io/2015/11/09/memory-leak-in-java-executor/

GC easy - Universal Java GC Log Analyser

GCeasy Team

MEMORY LEAK IN JAVA EXECUTOR!

I was surprised to witness the Java Executor behavior, which caused “java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: unable to create new native thread” in our application. I would like to share my surprise (i.e. prob…

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https://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/util/concurrent/ExecutorService.html#shutdown()

steel heart Apr 4, 2021, 10:12 PM

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d;ExecutorService#shutdownNow

ruby craterBOT Apr 4, 2021, 10:12 PM

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java.util.concurrent.ExecutorService#shutdownNow

List<Runnable> shutdownNow()
throws SecurityException```

Description:

Attempts to stop all actively executing tasks, halts the processing of waiting tasks, and returns a list of the tasks that were awaiting execution.

This method does not wait for actively executing tasks to terminate. Use awaitTermination to do that.

There are no guarantees beyond best-effort attempts to stop processing actively executing tasks. For example, typical implementations will cancel via Thread.interrupt(), so any task that fails to respond to interrupts may never terminate.

Throws:

SecurityException - if a security manager exists and shutting down this ExecutorService may manipulate threads that the caller is not permitted to modify because it does not hold RuntimePermission("modifyThread"), or the security manager's checkAccess method denies access.

Returns:

list of tasks that never commenced execution

steel heart Apr 4, 2021, 10:12 PM

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maybe that

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d;ExecutorService#shutdown

ruby craterBOT Apr 4, 2021, 10:17 PM

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java.util.concurrent.ExecutorService#shutdown

void shutdown()
throws SecurityException```

Description:

Initiates an orderly shutdown in which previously submitted tasks are executed, but no new tasks will be accepted. Invocation has no additional effect if already shut down.

This method does not wait for previously submitted tasks to complete execution. Use awaitTermination to do that.

Throws:

SecurityException - if a security manager exists and shutting down this ExecutorService may manipulate threads that the caller is not permitted to modify because it does not hold RuntimePermission("modifyThread"), or the security manager's checkAccess method denies access.

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 10:19 PM

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shutdownNow is good if you don't want any more tasks to be ran at all as soon as it's invoked

steel heart Apr 4, 2021, 10:20 PM

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yeah I guess I will call that at the very end of the disabling process

jovial warren Apr 4, 2021, 10:37 PM

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PacketInCreativeInventoryAction what a class name lol

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only a mere 33 characters long

obtuse gale Apr 5, 2021, 12:48 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/shoplifter-shoplifting-shoplifters-when-they-see-a-shop-gif-19529323

Tenor

surreal quarry Apr 5, 2021, 1:12 AM

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Wow, this is so inspirational

glass cloak Apr 5, 2021, 1:21 AM

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                                .setLore(Util.translateListWithPlaceholders(settingsConfig.getStringList("items.balance-note.lore"), new ImmutablePair<>("%value%", String.valueOf(amount)), new ImmutablePair<>("%player%", player.getName())))
                                .setName(settingsConfig.getString("items.balance-note.name"))
                                .build();```

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i hate nbtapi so much

obtuse gale Apr 5, 2021, 1:25 AM

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that looks more like your mess rather than NBT API's lmao

glass cloak Apr 5, 2021, 1:26 AM

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fair enough lol

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but this is all through a wrapper util as well lmao

ocean quartz Apr 5, 2021, 1:45 AM

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Posted in a Java support channel https://sourceb.in/y2V6yB5Nlg

obtuse gale Apr 5, 2021, 1:53 AM

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oh lord

oblique heath Apr 5, 2021, 2:01 AM

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that looks like the kind of thing that would be much nicer recursive

glass cloak Apr 5, 2021, 2:02 AM

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ocean quartz Posted in a Java support channel https://sourceb.in/y2V6yB5Nlg

my eyes are in pain just looking at that

forest pecan Apr 5, 2021, 2:16 AM

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the logic doesn't make any sense

weary epoch Apr 5, 2021, 2:28 AM

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logic = no

surreal quarry Apr 5, 2021, 2:28 AM

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loGnic

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= gone

weary epoch Apr 5, 2021, 2:29 AM

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nah, he don't bite

half harness Apr 5, 2021, 2:45 AM

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the amount of times i almost deleted my whole project - then got saved by intellij local history scares me

#

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 2:45 AM

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hooo boy

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you thought Java type erasure was bad?

ocean quartz Apr 5, 2021, 2:45 AM

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How? @half harness

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 2:45 AM

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TypeScript basically doesn't have any types at runtime lmao

half harness Apr 5, 2021, 2:45 AM

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ocean quartz *How?* <@!521485088995672084>

idk, but it has happened before

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why do i have 149 errors-

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intellij is acting weird

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 2:52 AM

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maybe you're the problem, after that last statement lol

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 6:12 AM

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@ocean quartz Any updates?

static zealot Apr 5, 2021, 9:18 AM

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oh man I love how clip added [BROADCAST] to deluxemenus but didn't register it.

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or whoever did add it

stuck harbor Apr 5, 2021, 10:17 AM

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half harness why do i have 149 errors-

I get that loads when intellij doesn't notice that gradle exists when I have to use intellij

regal gale Apr 5, 2021, 10:38 AM

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Holy god... everything is blurry in c++ for me that I even think this is okay:
if (used[0] == used[1] == used[2]) {

stuck harbor Apr 5, 2021, 10:42 AM

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I mean that ain't great

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but it ain't awful

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 10:45 AM

#

variables

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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@quiet depot a little question about classloaders,
So If I were to add a class file to the jar at runtime and then call loadClass with its fqn, would the application class loader try to load the one I created?

quiet depot Apr 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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yea

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should do

#

wait

#

i might be misunderstanding

#

do you mean that you’ve got a jar, and at runtime, you’re adding a file to the jar itself

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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yes

quiet depot Apr 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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yeah no

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I doubt it’d pick it up

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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Rip

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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enum class ItemType(override val key: NamespacedKey = NamespacedKey(value = name.toLowerCase())) someone please tell me how I can achieve what I want here

quiet depot Apr 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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windows doesn’t allow u to edit the jar while it’s running, and linux does some other funky thing that allows u to edit it but edits don’t actually make any difference

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I’m guessing the entire jar is loaded into memory

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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ohh

quiet depot Apr 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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and file changes aren’t listened for

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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hmm

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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I want to be able to default the value of the key to the name of the enum to lower case, but if I use this.toString() and override toString to give me name.toLowerCase, I get an NPE

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and a secondary constructor just complains as well about name not being initialised yet

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

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jovial warren `enum class ItemType(override val key: NamespacedKey = NamespacedKey(value = nam...

maybe something like this instead

enum class ItemType(keyIn: NamespacedKey? = null) {
  val key = keyIn ?: NamespacedKey(value = name.toLowerCase())
}

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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ah yeah, that'll work

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 12:01 PM

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That's what I call a clean class, opinions? https://paste.helpch.at/usaxuruled.java

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:03 PM

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Pls no

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 12:05 PM

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wdym pls no

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:06 PM

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TaskUtil? Why static set?

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Database.INSTANCE ?

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If we’re in java consider encapsulating your fields and work more object oriented but of course that is subjective

#

Maybe try to make something with a dependency injection framework

#

It surely helps to get a rightful object oriented approach to a certain extent

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 12:11 PM

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hot hull That's what I call a clean class, opinions? https://paste.helpch.at/usaxuruled.j...

Database.masterWorkerID = Thread.currentThread().getId(); this and the static registrables are questionable, otherwise looks fine

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 12:12 PM

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registrebles are constant tho, so that's an invalid questionuity

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:12 PM

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No it’s not

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 12:12 PM

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Not true, they have state related to your plugin class

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:13 PM

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For the record I also advocate to use a ImmutableSet.copyOf then

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 12:19 PM

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TaskUtil?
What bothers you about this so much tho lol

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:20 PM

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Idk why do you create weird utility classes for everything

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What’s the motive

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 12:31 PM

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Why have organized code when you could cram everything into the main class, you right

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:37 PM

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Idk if that’s suppose to be an argument

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:37 PM

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starting to think that maybe a single material enum isn't such a bad idea lol

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since all block types can be represented as items in your inventory

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 12:38 PM

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Big brain Bardy

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Save overheard on objects and all that

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:39 PM

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no, just make it actually work

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:39 PM

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no pls use registry

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:39 PM

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wat

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:39 PM

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pls no enum

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pls

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:40 PM

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wdym

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enum good

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if structured properly

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might also make some handy premade enum sets that group certain things

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:41 PM

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I mean I don't like enums because of the rigidness they sort of provide

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but I guess it's fine

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tho spigot will be migrating from enums to registries

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so thats pog at least

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:42 PM

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wait what?

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also, define registries

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:42 PM

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uh well pseudo enums

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 12:42 PM

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Oh wow

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Big difference huh

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:42 PM

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well it would allow for generics

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:42 PM

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why would you want generics for materials?

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 12:43 PM

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^

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:43 PM

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these are materials

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we use an enum because they are always constant

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:43 PM

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well if different materials have different properties it can be nicer to have a type for that instead of a thousand boolean methods

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 12:44 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/friends-fighting-girl-fight-cat-fight-gif-14843531

Tenor

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:44 PM

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yeah that'll be done a different way in Krypton

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:44 PM

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sure thing, I am interested

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:44 PM

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the material enum is literally just a way to tell the game "this is what type of block/item this is"

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nothing about the properties of said block or item, that's stored in metadata

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:45 PM

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properties of materials*

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:45 PM

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materials then

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ItemStack holds some form of ItemMeta (I want it to be buildable if it can be, not sure though yet, I'll figure something out)

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 12:46 PM

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Dude why is picking a name the hardest part of plugin development

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:47 PM

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since, let's face it, ```kotlin
val item = ItemStack(Material.OAK_PLANKS, 1)
val meta = item.meta
item.meta = meta.apply { name = Component.text("My custom item name") }

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I mean, I guess that could become ```kotlin
val item = ItemStack(Material.OAK_PLANKS, 1).apply {
meta.name = Component.text("My custom item name")
}

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 12:48 PM

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make an applyMeta thanks

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so you have name = ..

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:))

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:48 PM

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I mean, I could just make them immutable and make you use data class copying

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but not sure what that would be like either

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 12:49 PM

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Sounds like pain to me

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 12:50 PM

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Just yeet out attributes

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ez

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we don't need custom shit anyways

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:50 PM

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could make the meta all data classes

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I mean, what is there to add on the backend?

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maybe NBT deserialisation? but I can do that with extension functions

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:53 PM

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Well, you might think the material enum is just a way to tell what material but it also as of now contains a lot of methods that kind of helps to describe each materials properties. While it works just fine using pseudo enums would be nice as you can use generics and wouldn't be constrained by the limits of a regular enum. In addition it would also increase reusability. Of course this is a subjective matter. Idk if you've checked nms but it also uses pseudo enums/registries I think. Idk what do you think else than just "a way to tell what material"?

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:54 PM

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yeah we use registries on the backend

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they're not generified though

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 12:54 PM

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ya'll still going on about this

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:54 PM

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the only registries we use in Krypton are the official ones from the data generators, which are all JSON lol

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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hmm interesting

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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also, the material enum only describes the type of material

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not anything else

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no properties, no other whack

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no hardness values

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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But how do you know about the properties of certain materials?

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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cinder flare But how do you know about the properties of certain materials?

metadata

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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Well at least for spigot they have lots of methods like isAir, isBlah etc

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:56 PM

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isAir is literally just ```kotlin
if (type == Material.AIR)

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:56 PM

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CAVE_AIR

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and VOID_AIR

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:56 PM

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yeah we don't have that on the API's end

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and I won't show that to the API either

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unless I have to

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then I might

steel heart Apr 5, 2021, 12:56 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 12:57 PM

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I mean that could be usefull for cave generation

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 12:57 PM

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What's the difference

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 12:57 PM

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Have every material define a optional subtype

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🤷

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 12:57 PM

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I presume cave air is just checking if it's surrounded by blocks?

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:58 PM

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idfk how I'm gonna do this

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cave air is just air that's in a cave lol

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 12:58 PM

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Well why is it different lol

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:58 PM

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Mojang

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your guess is as good as mine star

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 12:58 PM

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hot hull I presume cave air is just checking if it's surrounded by blocks?

That's my guess

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 12:59 PM

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probably

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might be used in proto chunks

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 12:59 PM

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doubt it's Y specificated

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 12:59 PM

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Whats the point of it?

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 1:00 PM

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variety

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 1:00 PM

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Damn

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 1:00 PM

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I mean I'm sure they had a valid use for it

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 1:00 PM

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Hopefully

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 1:00 PM

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But it's mojang so you never know lol

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 1:00 PM

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steel heart Idk if that’s suppose to be an argument

good argument

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World#getBlockAt()#setType :p

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 1:05 PM

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also, ez player inventory persistence

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18 files changed

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fuck

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every time

onyx loom Apr 5, 2021, 1:07 PM

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😩

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thats gonna be a decent commit

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 1:08 PM

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didn't actually change that much tbh

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that's just adding inventory persistence and creative inventory action & held item change support

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and fixing up player data not being set if there is no file, which was something I caused when I changed player data loading lol

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 1:11 PM

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Every day we get closer to the real goal: block persistence

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 1:11 PM

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yeah that's not gonna come yet lol

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that'll require changes to the way I handle chunk data

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and the addition of all the blocks

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so yeah, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bs2_rQVCVQ

YouTube

sambrewer2

Simon Cowell No

yes hello the lads i would delete this video but its got 90k views so I can't really anyway subscribe to my main channel and here please that would be very kind

▶ Play video

pale shell Apr 5, 2021, 1:20 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/rxDTbWX.png gradle you ok?

Imgur

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 1:20 PM

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lol

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that's actually normal with larger builds

pale shell Apr 5, 2021, 1:21 PM

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o.O

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 1:21 PM

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you know 1 minute isn't even bad right?

quiet depot Apr 5, 2021, 1:21 PM

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would take 5 mins with maven

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 1:22 PM

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I remember MiniDigger saying that it takes ~45 minutes to apply all the Mojang mappings to Paper with Gradle lol

static zealot Apr 5, 2021, 1:22 PM

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On gitbooks is there any way to put a group inside another group? Can't seem to figure it out so I assume you can't but maybe someone in here knows the secret recipe.

pale shell Apr 5, 2021, 1:22 PM

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45?!

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 1:22 PM

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Would take a nanosecond with ebt

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 1:22 PM

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that's just an example of a huge build task

pale shell Apr 5, 2021, 1:22 PM

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😰

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 1:22 PM

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most builds won't take a minute though

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fresh start is always longer because Gradle has to spawn a fresh daemon

pale shell Apr 5, 2021, 1:26 PM

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odd question with the fawe api is there much of a difference between fastmode(true) and false?

onyx loom Apr 5, 2021, 1:27 PM

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old wyvern Would take a nanosecond with ebt

when is this coming

prisma wave Apr 5, 2021, 1:28 PM

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pale shell odd question with the fawe api is there much of a difference between fastmode(tr...

Fast mode is fast

pale shell Apr 5, 2021, 1:28 PM

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i mean like would you notice the difference? fawe is fast overall no?

prisma wave Apr 5, 2021, 1:28 PM

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Maybe with big pastes

pale shell Apr 5, 2021, 1:29 PM

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you have a feature in fancy pmines i want bm >:L

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but its in coatlin

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 1:34 PM

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Kotlin > Java

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facts

onyx loom Apr 5, 2021, 1:34 PM

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wait really?

pale shell Apr 5, 2021, 1:35 PM

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i'm starting to hate w/e LOL

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if the api was nicer it'll be gucci

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 1:39 PM

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lol

pale shell Apr 5, 2021, 1:43 PM

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it's like "give a pattern" yeah but what you want LuL

prisma wave Apr 5, 2021, 1:45 PM

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jovial warren Kotlin > Java

you sure???

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Haven't heard that one before

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That's a pretty original take

pale shell Apr 5, 2021, 1:45 PM

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bm 😄

onyx loom Apr 5, 2021, 1:45 PM

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controversial opinion

pale shell Apr 5, 2021, 1:45 PM

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you a smart guy, you got any clue how to do patterns

remote goblet Apr 5, 2021, 1:45 PM

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Pattern.from?

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i thonk

pale shell Apr 5, 2021, 1:46 PM

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someone sent me this https://paste.helpch.at/ojomesekuj.php but none of the imports work

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like the BlockTypes one

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 1:46 PM

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Elm > Js

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😇

obtuse gale Apr 5, 2021, 1:47 PM

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pale shell someone sent me this https://paste.helpch.at/ojomesekuj.php but none of the impo...

That works perfectly fine, what version are you working with?

prisma wave Apr 5, 2021, 1:47 PM

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old wyvern Elm > Js

True

pale shell Apr 5, 2021, 1:47 PM

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well

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the fawe or w/e?

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p.s @prisma wave why doesn't the modern factory kick in at all

prisma wave Apr 5, 2021, 1:48 PM

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what

pale shell Apr 5, 2021, 1:48 PM

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in the plugin? thonking

prisma wave Apr 5, 2021, 1:49 PM

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because its only used on modern versions?

pale shell Apr 5, 2021, 1:49 PM

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ModernMineFactoryCompat

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 1:49 PM

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prisma wave True

😌

pale shell Apr 5, 2021, 1:49 PM

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e.g 1.12+

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 1:49 PM

#

pale shell Apr 5, 2021, 1:49 PM

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?

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 1:50 PM

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Is that Elm?

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 1:50 PM

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Im def using this over anything else now.

If only I could figure out a good way to apply styling

obtuse gale Apr 5, 2021, 1:50 PM

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No, this is Patrick

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 1:50 PM

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cinder flare Is that Elm?

yea

prisma wave Apr 5, 2021, 1:52 PM

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Kinda cute

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Is that like <| in f#?

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 1:52 PM

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Yea

half harness Apr 5, 2021, 1:53 PM

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intellij is dying on me

prisma wave Apr 5, 2021, 1:53 PM

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Isn't it unnecessary in most of the examples then?

half harness Apr 5, 2021, 1:53 PM

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😫

prisma wave Apr 5, 2021, 1:53 PM

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text <| "fgh" could just be text "fgh"

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 1:53 PM

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I had it because I was using some function calls there earlier

frail glade Apr 5, 2021, 1:53 PM

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half harness Apr 5, 2021, 1:53 PM

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what does this mean-

old wyvern Apr 5, 2021, 1:54 PM

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Replaced it cause I changed that structure ,so jsut replaced that call with the text hence the left pipe xD

ocean quartz Apr 5, 2021, 1:54 PM

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Oh hi Glare

half harness Apr 5, 2021, 1:55 PM

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frail glade

onyx loom Apr 5, 2021, 2:11 PM

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lol https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans

GitHub

JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans

Kotlin Plugin for NetBeans https://kotlinlang.org. Contribute to JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans development by creating an account on GitHub.

ocean quartz Apr 5, 2021, 2:13 PM

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hot hull <@!180369172046413824> Any updates?

On?

frail glade Apr 5, 2021, 2:15 PM

#

So does anyone really know what the new kotlin IR backend does? I see it's going to be the default soon and you can manually enable it for testing.

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 2:16 PM

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https://kotlinlang.org/docs/js-ir-compiler.html

Kotlin Help

Kotlin/JS IR compiler | Kotlin

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it's for Kotlin/JS

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 2:16 PM

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What do you think matt

frail glade Apr 5, 2021, 2:16 PM

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Ahh

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 2:16 PM

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https://kotlinlang.org/docs/whatsnew1430.html or maybe you're right

Kotlin Help

What's new in Kotlin 1.4.30 | Kotlin

frail glade Apr 5, 2021, 2:16 PM

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Yeah pretty sure it's for the JVM as-well.

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Cause I see Kotlin 1.5 is in milestone release and should be going to GA soon.

ocean quartz Apr 5, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Ah, not yet sorry Frosty

frail glade Apr 5, 2021, 2:20 PM

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What's he talking about? 👀

ocean quartz Apr 5, 2021, 2:20 PM

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frail glade So does anyone really know what the new kotlin IR backend does? I see it's going...

Iirc it's a complete rewrite, which should give better compile times and stuff like that

ocean quartz Apr 5, 2021, 2:20 PM

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frail glade What's he talking about? 👀

TriumphChat xD

frail glade Apr 5, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Ahh

#

Looks like ConfigMe isn't really being worked on much anymore.

onyx loom Apr 5, 2021, 2:21 PM

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insert matt config lib here

ocean quartz Apr 5, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Lmao, but yeah that's one of the reasons why i made my fork, I PRed a change to ConfigMe and took them 6 months to release it xD

frail glade Apr 5, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Dear lord.

#

To be fair, I'm in a similar boat. I have like 0 time to do plugins.

onyx loom Apr 5, 2021, 2:23 PM

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😩

ocean quartz Apr 5, 2021, 2:23 PM

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And I have so many things to work on that I end up working on none 😩

frail glade Apr 5, 2021, 2:24 PM

#

I know BM is also in the same boat cause like with PDM, he's been "working" on the relocation support for like 6 months or so.

onyx loom Apr 5, 2021, 2:24 PM

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thonking

ocean quartz Apr 5, 2021, 2:24 PM

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Did you see what me and Yugi have been working on? 👀

onyx loom Apr 5, 2021, 2:24 PM

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has he even started it with that hmmmm

frail glade Apr 5, 2021, 2:24 PM

#

For me, real life has taken over. I'm working my ass off for school + I am in the process of getting a full time internship for the summer.

#

Nope, feel free to share, Matt.

ocean quartz Apr 5, 2021, 2:24 PM

#

https://github.com/Vshnv/slimjar

GitHub

Vshnv/slimjar

Runtime dependency management. Contribute to Vshnv/slimjar development by creating an account on GitHub.

frail glade Apr 5, 2021, 2:25 PM

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Will it support relocation? 👀

ocean quartz Apr 5, 2021, 2:25 PM

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I'm working on the plugin part, working on the relocations right now 👀

frail glade Apr 5, 2021, 2:26 PM

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Plugin being gradle plugin?

ocean quartz Apr 5, 2021, 2:26 PM

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Yeah

frail glade Apr 5, 2021, 2:26 PM

#

Okay cool.

#

I've starred it. Keep me updated. Might be my next thing I use.

ocean quartz Apr 5, 2021, 2:27 PM

#

Nice!
I'm still trying to understand how the jar building works so I can do the relocations on the imports, then hopefully make it so the same relocator can be used to do the relocatiosn at runtime

frail glade Apr 5, 2021, 2:28 PM

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I'm not entirely sure how Luck does it but you might be able to see what he does in the backend for that stuff.

#

God bless, this looks like it will handle transitive too.

ocean quartz Apr 5, 2021, 2:28 PM

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Yeah i am also checking what he does

half harness Apr 5, 2021, 2:30 PM

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half harness what does this mean-

anyone knows?

frail glade Apr 5, 2021, 2:31 PM

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https://github.com/Vshnv/slimjar/blob/master/gradle-plugin/src/main/kotlin/io/github/vshnv/slimjar/task/SlimJar.kt#L10
Nice.

ocean quartz Apr 5, 2021, 2:32 PM

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Didn't mean to commit that, then Yugi made the PR without me knowing xD

frail glade Apr 5, 2021, 2:34 PM

#

Ahh

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:10 PM

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How can I compile a project from Github

#

that has a Makefile ;C

#

@prisma wave

#

welp

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:12 PM

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is it in C?

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:12 PM

#

yea

ocean quartz Apr 5, 2021, 3:12 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/flashback-seasamestreet-gif-10051490

Tenor

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:13 PM

#

No idea how to compile it in combination with gcc ;C

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:13 PM

#

do you have CLion?

#

It'll do it for you like how IJ does Gradle/Maven

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:14 PM

#

and without ?

ocean quartz Apr 5, 2021, 3:14 PM

#

Geany IDE 🥲

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:14 PM

#

do you not have CLion?>

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:14 PM

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nu ;c

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:14 PM

#

are you a student?

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:15 PM

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Yus

#

But I do not want it

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:15 PM

#

then you can get it for free

#

what

#

why

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:15 PM

#

cuz I just wanna compile a project.

hot hull Apr 5, 2021, 3:15 PM

#

:what:

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:15 PM

#

??

#

just get Clion bro

#

make your life easier

lunar cypress Apr 5, 2021, 3:17 PM

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No instructions on the github page?

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:18 PM

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yeah you probably just need to run make lol

lunar cypress Apr 5, 2021, 3:18 PM

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Tried make build or make install?

#

Or just make yeah

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:18 PM

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make build?

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make is not an available command

lunar cypress Apr 5, 2021, 3:19 PM

#

I take it you're running windows

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:19 PM

#

yeah

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:19 PM

#

oof yeah thats a yikes

#

you're gonna need like MinGW

lunar cypress Apr 5, 2021, 3:19 PM

#

And you want a windows executable

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:19 PM

#

I do have it

#

cmder<3

lunar cypress Apr 5, 2021, 3:20 PM

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Are you running the mingw shell?

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:20 PM

#

no

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:21 PM

#

well that'd do it

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:21 PM

#

#

What do I need ,c

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:21 PM

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open the minGW shell

lunar cypress Apr 5, 2021, 3:22 PM

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You run mingw in your terminal of choice

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:22 PM

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Dont have an shell

lunar cypress Apr 5, 2021, 3:22 PM

#

What

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:22 PM

#

what

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:22 PM

#

#

nope

lunar cypress Apr 5, 2021, 3:23 PM

#

in your terminal

#

what happens when you run mingw

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:23 PM

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probably not in the path

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:23 PM

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C:\MinGW\bin

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no shell associated executable

prisma wave Apr 5, 2021, 3:24 PM

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unkempt tangle that has a Makefile ;C

make 🥲

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:24 PM

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Dont have it

prisma wave Apr 5, 2021, 3:24 PM

#

install it then

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:25 PM

#

#

wat do I need

lunar cypress Apr 5, 2021, 3:25 PM

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I thought you'd already installed it

#

try to get mingw to run first

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:27 PM

#

senpaiiiii

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:33 PM

#

just install linux and use LLVM like a normal boi

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:36 PM

#

are there any good alternative for virtualbox or vmware?

#

Portable

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:39 PM

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virtualbox is free and open source

#

10/10

forest pecan Apr 5, 2021, 3:40 PM

#

its made by oracle

#

right

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:42 PM

#

its a piece of bloatware

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:43 PM

#

it is made by oracle

#

sadly

#

but it is very solid for what it does

#

and you have quite the opinions for someone using Windows lol

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:46 PM

#

Kali is recommendable as distro?

quiet depot Apr 5, 2021, 3:46 PM

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no

#

just use ubuntu

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:47 PM

#

don't use Kali for anything other than security stuff lol

#

it's not very good for much else

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:47 PM

#

Reverse Engineering

#

Should be their tier

quiet depot Apr 5, 2021, 3:48 PM

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pretty sure kali is just a gimmick os

#

for script kiddies

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:48 PM

#

you plan on reverse engineering?

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:48 PM

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yes

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:48 PM

#

it's just ubuntu but it comes with cybersecurity stuff lol

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wtf you know what kali is and you can't figure out how to use a makefile?

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what skillset do you have lol

unkempt tangle Apr 5, 2021, 3:49 PM

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meh

humble silo Apr 5, 2021, 3:53 PM

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I tried C a bit ago and that was ok but C++ was honestly just too much of a pain to learn at all... I got passed pointers and some memory stuff and then trying to figure out the best way to structure a project killed it for me

obtuse gale Apr 5, 2021, 3:56 PM

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I mean pointers and "memory stuff" is also crucial to C

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it's not a C++ realm specific topic

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:58 PM

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it's crucial to every language, most just hide them from you

jovial warren Apr 5, 2021, 3:58 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/R5Wm0oi.png lol

Imgur

obtuse gale Apr 5, 2021, 3:58 PM

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but it isn't something you have to know in every other language to work with it

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 3:59 PM

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it's good to understand how they work though

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gives you a better understanding of programming

obtuse gale Apr 5, 2021, 3:59 PM

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not denying that, but it isn't necessary to know for you to work with the language

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yeah knowing how the CPU operates at the micro instructions level will help you better understand how you can help it with performance by optimizing your code... but is it really necessary for you to know that other than when working with assembly?

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 4:01 PM

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well a lot of stuff you do in other languages works like you're using pointers, you just can't directly access them

obtuse gale Apr 5, 2021, 4:01 PM

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you ain't thinking that with python

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 4:01 PM

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it's much more directly relevant than CPU microinstructions lol

obtuse gale Apr 5, 2021, 4:01 PM

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but it still isn't necessary

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in both C and C++ it's pretty much a must

humble silo Apr 5, 2021, 4:02 PM

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obtuse gale I mean pointers and "memory stuff" is also crucial to C

Oh ya, sorry i was just meant i learned that in C and then was trying to do all of that with OO in C++ and just quit

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It was really interesting to try out and i defintely wanna get back into it but not for a bit probably

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 4:02 PM

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alright Fefo you're right, understanding anything isn't necessary for programming

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all you need to know is how to type eh?

humble silo Apr 5, 2021, 4:02 PM

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Especially since ive never used OpenGL in C and only with LWJGL in java

obtuse gale Apr 5, 2021, 4:03 PM

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you can't tell me you deem it necessary to know how pointers work when you're working with SQL

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 4:03 PM

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oooh I'd try SFML in C++ if you're interested

obtuse gale Apr 5, 2021, 4:03 PM

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or hell, kotlin even

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 4:03 PM

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SQL is not the language we're talking about Fefo

humble silo Apr 5, 2021, 4:03 PM

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obtuse gale you can't tell me you deem it necessary to know how pointers work when you're wo...

I mean ive never used them in SQL

obtuse gale Apr 5, 2021, 4:03 PM

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we are talking about languages in general

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 4:03 PM

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In Kotlin or Java you are literally working with pointers in like linked lists and stuff

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You just can't edit them

obtuse gale Apr 5, 2021, 4:04 PM

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in java or kt you don't need to know about them

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 4:04 PM

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alright Fefo whatever

obtuse gale Apr 5, 2021, 4:04 PM

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you put something in a list and it's there

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 4:04 PM

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i guess not

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you don't need to know anything

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ever

obtuse gale Apr 5, 2021, 4:04 PM

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yeah no

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 4:04 PM

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knowledge is imaginary

obtuse gale Apr 5, 2021, 4:04 PM

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not at all

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I'd rather be on the streets ig

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All I'm saying is that it isn't something you have to know to work with the language

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it's not that you straight up can't program if you don't know them

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does it help? yes absolutely

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but it's not a must

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 4:05 PM

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but it's also good to know

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not much is a must honestly

obtuse gale Apr 5, 2021, 4:06 PM

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cinder flare but it's also *good to know*

yes and I agree with that

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 4:06 PM

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keyboard, if statement

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done

lunar cypress Apr 5, 2021, 4:06 PM

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Knowing C-like pointers doesn't give you any benefit in Java, you only need to understand how reference types work

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 4:07 PM

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They're the same thing

static zealot Apr 5, 2021, 4:07 PM

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is it bad that I made 4 years of C++ and I barely remember anything?

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 4:07 PM

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Just you can't modify java pointers

lunar cypress Apr 5, 2021, 4:07 PM

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No, they are not the exact same thing

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Things that work different and need to be understood differently are precisely not the same

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Well pointers are just memory locations

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and so are named variables for objects

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any reference type is

lunar cypress Apr 5, 2021, 4:08 PM

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No, not in the language

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None of this is specified or important to the language

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 4:09 PM

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wot

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that's literally what reference types are lol

lunar cypress Apr 5, 2021, 4:09 PM

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I feel like you're making the mistake of confusing language and JVM, as many people seem to do here

cinder flare Apr 5, 2021, 4:10 PM

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I mean in the language, when you're making a linked list and you do this.node = this.node.next, you are directly modifying pointers