you can if you know commands
#dev-general
cinder flare
I've lived my whole life using only IJ commands
jovial warren
starmism
cinder flare
works great! you can check out, push to different branches, do diffs visually, it's beautiful
yes?
jovial warren
tags may or may not be working
quiet depot
I mean it's functional
jovial warren
after I totally copied from Minestom
hot hull
Anyone wanna tell me how to edit a tablist using TAB?
hallow crane
NO CLUE
cinder flare
tags may or may not be working
๐ฎ
jovial warren
hot hull
Using the API might I say
Can't seem to find anything related yako, expect for the player UUID
jovial warren
this 8 space indent is painful to look at
ocean quartz
Git Kraken > IJ Git & CLI
jovial warren
Git Kraken > IJ Git & CLI
CLI on top
stay mad
static zealot
it's ugly af compared to gitkraken
I don't disagree but I'd prefer to learn the commands rn. It makes life so much easier
cinder flare
tags may or may not be working
quiet depot
that literally makes no sense
jovial warren
I suppose I am pretty much a Linux guru so ya know
ocean quartz
CLI on top
stay mad
Masochism is a choice
quiet depot
there's not a single universe where commands are considered easier than an intuitive gui
jovial warren
me and the command line are good friends
static zealot
there's not a single universe where commands are considered easier than an intui...
easier meaning I don't have to open another app
cinder flare
there's not a single universe where commands are considered easier than an intui...
homecicle, navigating through FileZilla is significantly slower than using cd and fuzzy tab completion
static zealot
just to make a commit and push it
cinder flare
If you get good at linux commands, you can be much faster than a GUI
static zealot
when I can do all that in 2 commands
jovial warren
truth
static zealot
git commit -m "Message" and git push
quiet depot
I just use ij integration
quiet depot
but for basically anything else, gitkraken or ij will be much faster than cli
static zealot
yeah but idk how to set the branch to which it pushes
quiet depot
gitkraken?
jovial warren
git pull remote local
quiet depot
or ij
jovial warren
git fetch remote
cinder flare
it gives you a little GUI in IJ
static zealot
ij
cinder flare
at the top of a commit
quiet depot
bottom right corner
cinder flare
you choose the repo
quiet depot
there's a button
onyx loom
congrats on being able to remember a billion commands bardy
jovial warren
these are basically all the commans you need
quiet depot
yeah no
static zealot
yes I have this: https://i.imgur.com/k7POeyI.png
cinder flare
oh I dunno about git CLI commands, but the rest of linux slaps lol
jovial warren
and maybe git rebase
static zealot
but it pushes to main
jovial warren
and git merge
static zealot
not to development
jovial warren
git checkout local
where local is the name of the local branch
or git checkout remote/branch iirc for remote checkouts
onyx loom
pretty sure ur in the minority here bardy
jovial warren
didn't say I wasn't
ocean quartz
Lmao
onyx loom
isnt it funny that when GUIs came in place of CLIs the popularity of computers exploded ๐
jovial warren
yeah because like 80% of computer users are noobs
cinder flare
GUI's have a significantly easier learning curve, but also a pretty low skill ceiling
hot hull
all you noobs using GUIs for everything <:doge_ahaha:713567681738965002>
Boutta use the GUI on my missile guidance system you hoe
cinder flare
CLI's have a higher learning curve, but the skill ceiling is very high
onyx loom
๐คฃ
jovial warren
GUI's have a significantly easier learning curve, but also a pretty low skill ce...
truth
onyx loom
aim that shit right at bardys house frosty
ocean quartz
CLI's have a higher learning curve, but the skill ceiling is very high
Doesn't make it better
cinder flare
I never said it was
Just that you can become much quicker using CLI than you possibly can with a GUI
jovial warren
Boutta use the GUI on my missile guidance system you hoe
jovial warren
Doesn't make it better
no but it has more things
jovial warren
and you can do more with it
static zealot
I mean I still preffer to write 10 words then press 10 buttons for some reason
onyx loom
yes please frosty!
cinder flare
Don't need to if I bomb the entire UK
Bro Hitler already tried that smh
hot hull
Lmao
ocean quartz
no but it has more things
You can do everything in Git Kraken as you can with CLI
jovial warren
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
ocean quartz
Nice argument
jovial warren
lol
okay, maybe Git Kraken and Git CLI tie here
in most cases though, CLIs have many, many more features than GUIs could even wish they had
static zealot
I mean still. why would I open 2 apps to do something I can do in just 1? That's my whole reasoning for using commands
or at least learning them for now
jovial warren
also, never know when you might need to use commands
like on a server
you don't see people going up to their Linux VPS' and clicking on a screen do you
no, you use SSH
and command line
ocean quartz
Those are completely different things though
jovial warren
because it's much more lightweight and can handle slower internet speeds
in terms of Git though, guess it's what you're used to
you think Git Kraken is better because you're used to it
I think the CLI is better because I'm used to it
static zealot
git kraken is easy to use and understand true.
jovial warren
and I'm just generally more comfortable with the CLI anyway
since mice are annoying
keyboard > mouse
smoky forge
Onscreen keyboard >
static zealot
I mean here is just personal opinion
ocean quartz
You don't need a mouse 
onyx loom
bro how u gonna drag click while god bridging in minecraft with a keyboard tho?????
ocean quartz
Omg good point!
half harness
wot
ocean quartz
Someone mentions anything 1.ass related, dkim: "My time has come"
jovial warren
bro how u gonna drag click while god bridging in minecraft with a keyboard tho??...
keybinds
also, fuck your god bridging
jovial warren
Minecraft is NOT a PvP game!
onyx loom
real deep
static zealot
I love this server. So many useless arguments. Its just perfect
ocean quartz
__Minecraft is ***NOT*** a PvP game!__
Wdym? I can do 20cps! It's great!
hallow crane
Bro IJ 2021 has a live multi person coding environment
so ppl can code together
wtf
hot hull
Oh god
hallow crane
this gonnoa be cool
hot hull
Can't wait to get 50 people in a single session and try to make a plugin
static zealot
Bro IJ 2021 has a live multi person coding environment
pretty sure that's just ultimate edition
static zealot
and I think it was there for a while wasn't it?
I remember Matt talking about it before
hallow crane
I had ultimate and I haven't had it in 2020 versions and below
It did exist yeah
but now its integrated into the ide
no IJ plugins needed
static zealot
ah
hallow crane
And they fixed the bug where when you try to add a class the context menu opens off screen
onyx loom
Can't wait to get 50 people in a single session and try to make a plugin
new HCCCE project ๐ณ
ocean quartz
It's been integrated since 2020.3.1 iirc
hot hull
This doesn't seem to read any file, just fails on every one, any clue?
hot hull
Ah I'm an idiot, forgot to include the dir for the file path
hallow crane
the name should have all the slashes too like C:\Users\Frosty\Projects\Java\Plugins\School\Plugins\Minecraft\Projects\Project\
jovial warren
this is why we want the stack trace
always print your stack traces when debugging lol
hallow crane
There's not really a need for a stacktrace
static zealot
Ah I'm an idiot, forgot to include the dir for the file path
yes you are
prisma wave
Being able to print the actual exception would be nice
hallow crane
we good w this
prisma wave
Even if you want it user friendly
hot hull
Nah already figured it out lmao
hallow crane
How did it break gradle
prisma wave
gradle doesn't work with j16
ocean quartz
Gradle doesn't support it yet
static zealot
just moved to 16
prisma wave
Yet
static zealot
15*
jovial warren
Java 16 is great... until you realise it breaks half of your dependencies that try to reflectively access JDK internals
lol
which, luckily for me, hasn't been the case so far
though I do use Java 11 actually, not 16
onyx loom
whats new with 16 btw?
prisma wave
sealed classes iirc
jovial warren
because you don't really need to use 16 if you're writing in Kotlin
hallow crane
IJ runs off of the java 11 runtime so I switched to that
prisma wave
And instanceof pattern matching
jovial warren
it basically adds nothing
jovial warren
since Kotlin will run just fine all the way back to Java 6 with its features lol
jovial warren
Kotlin
onyx loom
thank.
prisma wave
since Kotlin will run just fine all the way back to Java 6 with its features lol
static interface methods ๐
jovial warren
yeah Java's kinda been looking at Kotlin and going https://tenor.com/view/holyshit-jurassic-park-alan-grant-sam-neil-shocked-gif-5399511
jovial warren
static interface methods ๐
apart from those
but not very many interfaces have static methods
prisma wave
it's enough to be a problem
jovial warren
except for in Adventure, in which it basically seems to be kashike's convention
ocean quartz
Static methods in interfaces are actually pretty nice
hallow crane
Is gnome or unity better for UI in ubuntu?
hallow crane
Kubuntu is for pussies
prisma wave
shut up
hallow crane
actually untrue
jovial warren
yako why don't you upgrade to Arch ๐
jovial warren
or Gentoo 
prisma wave
You use arch btw?
jovial warren
where you literally have to manually compile the OS on your local machine
jovial warren
You use arch btw?
well, I use a lot more Windows these days, but yes, I have an Arch system
hallow crane
I heard solus is good
jovial warren
I like to think I'm that kind of Linux power user
even though half of the time I don't have the foggiest idea what I'm doing
obtuse gale
@jovial warren Do you mind if I DMs you?
hallow crane
im looking for a beautiful desktop environment
not really functional
as long as its ubuntu
onyx loom
windows
jovial warren
I use Arch with i3 lol
ocean quartz
Yeah if you're looking for something nice looking I don't think ubuntu is the way lmao
cinder flare
I use Arch with i3 lol
I used arch with i3-gaps until I realized it was bad for 3 monitors, so I swapped to KDE Plasma
jovial warren
I mean, at least it's better than Manjaro
prisma wave
im looking for a beautiful desktop environment
Literally kubuntu
cinder flare
manjaro is literally arch but they already made a pretty DE for you
jovial warren
Manjaro puts the Linux community to shame
hallow crane
kde is getting popular
jovial warren
it keeps packages behind for a week for seemingly no reason
cinder flare
A week? lmao
hallow crane
KDE Neon??
cinder flare
try Debian
jovial warren
and the AUR is just as bad as Arch's
cinder flare
wait a few years for new packages
cinder flare
and the AUR is just as bad as Arch's
As BAD???
jovial warren
it literally has nothing in terms of features over Arch
prisma wave
and the AUR is just as bad as Arch's
?? The AUR is good????
cinder flare
it's literally just Arch but with a pre-built DE
and apparently a weekly release schedule?
jovial warren
you know the AUR is notorious for having packages that break every other update right?
cinder flare
Bardy it's called being bleeding edge
prisma wave
right, so that's not a Manjaro issue
cinder flare
Presuming you're using Arch, I would think you'd know that
prisma wave
Fixed release is probably better for that as it's more stable anyway
spring canyon
AUR didn't break for me even once
jovial warren
Fixed release is probably better for that as it's more stable anyway
???????
cinder flare
As long as you're installing the right packages, the AUR is amazing
spring canyon
Fixed release is probably better for that as it's more stable anyway
That's why I like manjaro
cinder flare
I mean if it delays package updates by a week, you're less likely to get buggy packages that are fixed on day 1
That's literally the definition of stability
and why distros like Debian delay package updates for years
jovial warren
I mean if it delays package updates by a week, you're less likely to get buggy p...
but it's been shown that the Manjaro team pretty much do nothing in that week
jovial warren
that's why I said for seemingly no reason
cinder flare
You give the package maintainers more time to fix their packages
That's the whole point in delaying ever
prisma wave
???????
if there is an update that breaks another package, waiting a week allows other packages time to update...
cinder flare
And you're mad that AUR breaks when you're literally on the bleeding edge?
I'm so confused
jovial warren
if there is an update that breaks another package, waiting a week allows other p...
true I guess
jovial warren
And you're mad that AUR breaks when you're *literally* on the bleeding edge?
not what I mean
nor what I said
cinder flare
you know the AUR is notorious for having packages that break every other update ...
.
prisma wave
Manjaro is not more stable than Arch
tfw the product that updates less frequently is less stable than the bleeding edge product
jovial warren
I'm trying to say that Manjaro basically has nothing over Arch other than a preinstalled desktop environment
cinder flare
Oh yes that is literally its entire purpose
prisma wave
yeah that's literally the point
prisma wave
Arch without the convoluted setup
cinder flare
sounds like something you can change
hallow crane
JetBrains now has Space, the alternative to GitHub with free CI/CD
spring canyon
JetBrains now has Space, the alternative to GitHub with free CI/CD
"now"
hallow crane
Its newly free
jovial warren
they should just brand it as "Manjaro - Arch without the setup hassle"
hallow crane
Integrated with the IDEs
jovial warren
because that's all it is
spring canyon
It has been free for months
jovial warren
other than that, it literally has nothing over Arch
prisma wave
they should just brand it as "Manjaro - Arch without the setup hassle"
That's... Pretty much what they are doing?
cinder flare
That's... Pretty much what they are doing?
yeah lol
they aren't really claiming more
prisma wave
other than that, it literally has nothing over Arch
So what does Arch have over Manjaro?
prisma wave
freedom and openness
buzzwords
cinder flare
you are free to do whatever you want to Manjaro as well lol
jovial warren
you can basically do what you want
cinder flare
you can uninstall KDE if you'd like
jovial warren
fair
cinder flare
and manually update your packages every single day if you want
prisma wave
living on the edge
Which you've admitted is unstable and breaks regularly, how's that a benefit exactly?
cinder flare
this is such a stupid discussion lol
jovial warren
but if you're going to uninstall KDE then you might as well have just installed real Arch in the first place anyway
cinder flare
it's like comparing Ubuntu and Kubuntu
hallow crane
bro you are an Arch simp
prisma wave
but if you're going to uninstall KDE then you might as well have just installed ...
???
jovial warren
Which you've admitted is unstable and breaks regularly, how's that a benefit exa...
the AUR is unstable and breaks regularly
prisma wave
exactly
obtuse gale
bro you are an Arch simp
jovial warren
Arch's main repository is actually surprisingly stable
prisma wave
the AUR is unstable and breaks regularly
So Manjaro and Arch are even on that front
prisma wave
Therefore "living on the edge" isn't a benefit
jovial warren
bro you are an Arch simp
lol
jovial warren
Therefore "living on the edge" isn't a benefit
fair
cinder flare
yeah bardy you might want to cease while you're "ahead"? not really ahead
might just want to stop digging yourself further down lol
jovial warren
my point is that all Manjaro has over Arch is a fancy desktop environment and preinstalled setup
that's it
cinder flare
okay?
jovial warren
fine, if you prefer that, go for it I guess
prisma wave
That sounds like a flat upgrade
cinder flare
okay?
ocean quartz
Therefore "living on the edge" isn't a benefit
That's the best way to live!
prisma wave
yeah bardy you might want to cease while you're "ahead"? not really ahead
Literally an upgrade
Oh whoops wrong reply
cinder flare
I mean I enjoyed manually setting up my Arch stuff
So not really an upgrade necessarily for some people
It just makes Arch more accessible
jovial warren
I mean, I suppose I basically consider myself a Linux guru so ya know
no wonder I love Arch
and Manjaro just looks like someone took Arch and tried to turn it into Ubuntu to me
jovial warren
it's Arch with an installer
cinder flare
bardy your opinions are so confusing
prisma wave
Right, because Manjaro is just arch with a DE. Apart from the easy setup, preinstalled utilities, driver support (which is outstanding, automatically installs all drivers in 1 click / command), and to top it all off you get a 100% functional DE as well
old wyvern
Any luck with fixing the Tags bard?
prisma wave
But sure arch is better because "freedom"
cinder flare
he said maybe
jovial warren
the driver support is just BS
cinder flare
and I reacted with a happy gif
cinder flare
so it better be true
jovial warren
Any luck with fixing the Tags bard?
yes
jovial warren
may or may not have involved copying Minestom
old wyvern
xD
cinder flare
99% of drivers are built into the Linux kernel
lmao try running an nvidia graphics card and games with proton without those drivers
cinder flare
quite the hassle
old wyvern
Or maybe a few classes
jovial warren
one for installation, the other for automatic setup
prisma wave
Manjaro Hardware Manager auto installs all GPU, network and audio drivers necessary
jovial warren
alright fair enough
let's settle this
you think Manjaro is better
I think Arch is better
done
old wyvern
Manjaro Hardware Manager auto installs all GPU, network and audio drivers necess...
๐ฎ
prisma wave
yeah but I have evidence for my claim, yours is just opinion based
jovial warren
I like being able to control the system I'm using lol
prisma wave
as if you can't do that on manjaro
jovial warren
pretend like I know what I'm doing
and in terms of Linux OS' anyway, I live on the edge lol
old wyvern
Do all nvidea cards have proper linux drivers?
jovial warren
also, which OS is more popular I ask
prisma wave
Oh dear
jovial warren
Arch by a very far margin
prisma wave
That sounds like the Vox Populi fallacy
jovial warren
also, https://itsfoss.com/manjaro-vs-arch-linux/ this article literally says that they target different people
surreal quarry
manjaro is arch based, why not go for the easier setup
jovial warren
I think Manjaro is for the people who like it easy
surreal quarry
you still get the benefit of the AUR
old wyvern
I think Manjaro is for the people who like it easy
Whats wrong with having something be easy?
Is that not the point of everything?
surreal quarry
the AUR is a huge benefit
jovial warren
Whats wrong with having something be easy?
didn't say there was a problem
surreal quarry
of arch based
static zealot
OMG. How have I never thought about Collection ifEmpty {} until now
jovial warren
just saying I prefer the DIY way
ocean quartz
Whats wrong with having something be easy?
He's a masochist
old wyvern
xD
obtuse gale
Chill salty boy
cinder flare
manjaro is arch based, why not go for the easier setup
I personally quite enjoyed setting up Arch for myself and learning more about my system, but I definitely can see why you would want an easy installer
old wyvern
DIY time, time to execute discord on a human brain
jovial warren
right, let's settle this once and for all
Arch and Manjaro are aimed at different kinds of users, meaning it's like comparing apples to oranges at this point
hallow crane
sexy logo
cinder flare
Bardy is just the hardcore representation of the bad people in the Arch community
jovial warren
so they can't be compared
surreal quarry
i mean iโve installed it once. itโs cool to do it once, but it sucks to do it over and over
cinder flare
He's literally an elitist lol
hallow crane
no
surreal quarry
if you reinstall frequently, manjaro is much nicer
prisma wave
i mean iโve installed it once. itโs cool to do it once, but it sucks to do it ov...
I'm not saying arch is bad, but considering how often I reinstall or break something, reinstalling arch every time gets extremely boring
jovial warren
He's literally an elitist lol
prisma wave
Yeah exactly
old wyvern
bm
prisma wave
manjaro is just the AUR for free
jovial warren
the AUR isn't a benefit lol
prisma wave
Arch is for people who want to seem clever
prisma wave
the AUR isn't a benefit lol
Oh it really is
surreal quarry
tf
cinder flare
oh jesus christ
prisma wave
Oh it REALLY is
surreal quarry
the AUR is great
old wyvern
If I were to install manjaro w/ dual boot, it would handling setting up the drivers and stuff right?
surreal quarry
compared to apt or something
prisma wave
If I were to install manjaro w/ dual boot, it would handling setting up the driv...
Yes
jovial warren
at least APT is stable James
cinder flare
yeah dude pacman and yay vs apt is not even a fair comparison
prisma wave
If I were to install manjaro w/ dual boot, it would handling setting up the driv...
And automatically shrinks the windows partition + sets up grub
jovial warren
at least APT's packages don't break literally every other update
surreal quarry
add-apt-repository ๐ฅฒ
cinder flare
Bardy I do not understand
How you can complain
About unstability
When you're using ARCH
surreal quarry
lmao
jovial warren
true
old wyvern
And automatically shrinks the windows partition + sets up grub
๐ฎ
jovial warren
I mean, at least Arch is more stable than Windows lol
though, that is a very low bar
surreal quarry
ye installers clutch up for dual boot
cinder flare
And automatically shrinks the windows partition + sets up grub
I did mine the hard way lmao, installing systemd-boot because grub kept fucking my windows config
old wyvern
I guess time to move on from vms and install this finally
cinder flare
But I am very content
prisma wave
I did mine the hard way lmao, installing `systemd-boot` because grub kept fuckin...
Sounds painful
old wyvern
I mean, at least Arch is more stable than Windows lol
ease of use tho
prisma wave
arch is for people that want 3 hours of painful setup to get the same outcome as 5 minutes of manjaro setup
jovial warren
Arch is painful, I'll agree, but it's fun to watch it burn sometimes lol
3 hours? lol
cinder flare
arch is for people that want 3 hours of painful setup to get the same outcome as...
only 3? lmao
surreal quarry
i did it once. it was fun, but nothing worked so i had to spend a shit ton of time setting it up further to get it all working
cinder flare
I spent like 5 days getting my dual boot setup to work
surreal quarry
then it wasnโt as fun
cinder flare
And I loved every minute of it
jovial warren
once you reinstall it enough times, you can start to do it in 5 minutes
prisma wave
Probably more than 3 actually
jovial warren
I could install Arch in about 5 or 10 minutes lol
surreal quarry
cap
prisma wave
once you reinstall it enough times, you can start to do it in 5 minutes
So... Steep learning curve good?
surreal quarry
well, vim good
prisma wave
"Yeah man it's fine after the first 30 times!!"
cinder flare
nah I could definitely install arch in like 5 minutes
but yes, it did take me quite a few attempts to get there
jovial warren
once you know where to look on the wiki, you're golden
cinder flare
Again, Arch is not for people who want easy lol
ocean quartz
Harder
cinder flare
It's to understand what like the Manjaro installer is doing when you ru n it
jovial warren
I'm still not going to agree that Manjaro is better, or that Arch is better either
prisma wave
Arch is for people who want to appear clever online for little actual benefit
jovial warren
it's a matter of opinion
cinder flare
Arch is for people who want to appear clever online for little actual benefit
no yeah that's very true, I just personally enjoyed the setup :)
surreal quarry
bardy mad that its facts
prisma wave
"Guys I installed arch!! I can do it in 30 minutes!! Please give me attention"
jovial warren
I mean, I will admit that most people who install Arch are kiddies who like to think they know what they're doing
surreal quarry
r/SelfawareWolves
jovial warren
lol
surreal quarry
lol
prisma wave
I love that sub
surreal quarry
its so funny
jovial warren
right, now we're finally done with comparing operating systems, still trying to figure out what's going on with my chunk data lol
jovial warren
I removed the light updates and the client calculates the lighting itself but the chunks are still cursed (proving it's not a lighting issue lol)
cinder flare
dude I love Apollo
old wyvern
right, now we're finally done with comparing operating systems, still trying to ...
Shouldve written in Haskell ๐
jovial warren
lol
old wyvern
oh btw, ruby coc 2day?
prisma wave
Arch + Vim + Haskell ๐ฉ
old wyvern
Whats that?
surreal quarry
Heaven
cinder flare
it don't work on Nvidia cards yet afaik
cinder flare
though they might've just released a patch not sure
prisma wave
Guess I won't be trying it then!
surreal quarry
i actually have no clue what it is
jaunty maple
I have a problem with InventoryMoveItemEvent
say I have a hopper pointing to a chest
I dont want the items to get sucked in the chest
that works
but I want to remove the item from the source ( the hopper )
but it doesn't work
i tried event.getSource().remove(event.getItem())
old wyvern
Ah
prisma wave
I have a problem with InventoryMoveItemEvent
say I have a hopper pointing to a c...
Sir this is
cinder flare
It's an alternative to X11
surreal quarry
open source or proprietary ??!??!?!?!
cinder flare
they're both open source
prisma wave
OS ofc
I found out about Sway the other day as an alternative for i3, looks interesting
cinder flare
Wayland just does a lot of nice things, considering it had like 40 years of hindsight
prisma wave
Yeah Wayland is supposedly a lot better
cinder flare
But they're definitely still ironing out the kinks
surreal quarry
every time i do an apt upgrade by nvidia drivers break
cinder flare
lol
jovial warren
Oh somewhat related but has anyone ever used Wayland?
it's meant to be a lot better, but a few apps don't support it yet
cinder flare
bro no
static zealot
COC anyone?
jovial warren
AnyDesk doesn't support Wayland
stuck harbor
man i have wayland and x11 on my system i think
prisma wave
๐ง
cinder flare
most people have both options installed
surreal quarry
seems legit
stuck harbor
or is it qt and x11
cinder flare
I can start KDE in either
jovial warren
I've heard bad things about Wayland though
cinder flare
QT is a software thing that lets you build apps that work on like, every device
stuck harbor
๐
jovial warren
yeah
surreal quarry
yikes
hot hull
I need 3 people to say yes or no
surreal quarry
yes
cinder flare
no
jovial warren
could've sworn I've seen Python QT before
cinder flare
not the primary one lol
surreal quarry
prisma wave
Why not
cinder flare
so you can use Qt in a python app
it's like asking why there's an SQL driver for java
prisma wave
There's gonna be little to no performance decrease
surreal quarry
all valid python code is valid java code, so it makes sense to me
cinder flare
so you can use SQL in java lmao
jovial warren
Python is a notoriously slow language BM
surreal quarry
easy c++ compatibility
prisma wave
Python is a notoriously slow language BM
bruh
jovial warren
Python wasn't designed to be fast
prisma wave
do you know what bindings are
cinder flare
Python is a notoriously slow language BM
yeah but you're doing 99% of the work in C++ and C
jovial warren
ah true
prisma wave
^
jovial warren
good point
cinder flare
I'm losing confidence in Bardy's knowledge with every sentence he writes
First the Manjaro thing, now this
yikes
jovial warren
also, probably should've asked this earlier, but why do you two have php in your name
big ew
PHP bad language
obtuse gale
And you suck, yes
jovial warren
stfu
obtuse gale
No
cinder flare
not too sure, BM did it and he told me to do it and I like BM so I did it
plus I just got Nitro, so I decided to celebrate my newfound powers >:)
surreal quarry
why not
jovial warren
I'm losing confidence in Bardy's knowledge with every sentence he writes
me having arguments about things that are way out of my depth because I somehow believe I'm right is just me being me lol
cinder flare
yeah lol
jovial warren
I know people that could prove you guys wrong about Manjaro
but those people aren't me
cinder flare
wot
surreal quarry
prisma wave
me having arguments about things that are way out of my depth because I somehow ...
Tfw the person who has never used a functional language says functional languages are bad
That seems to happen regularly
surreal quarry
i refuse to be convinced about anything by anyone
jovial warren
i refuse to be convinced about anything by anyone
gl with that one
it's human nature
prisma wave
not too sure, BM did it and he told me to do it and I like BM so I did it
cheers
php good
prisma wave
r/programmerhumor tells me otherwise
reliable source of information
prisma wave
did you know "missing semicolon" is funny?
cinder flare
yeah lol
you somehow started an argument with Bardy though in which he was once again very wrong lol
stuck harbor
when u import libgdx instead of raylib
surreal quarry
did you know "missing semicolon" is funny?
really? Iโm just now hearing about this!!
prisma wave
that sub is literally just "missing semicolon funny php funny javascript bad"
More circlejerk than PCJ
Ironically
cinder flare
that sub is literally just "missing semicolon funny php funny javascript bad"
javascript do be kinda bad tho...
ocean quartz
PHP best language
prisma wave
php is the future of the web
prisma wave
javascript do be kinda bad tho...
JS is fine
stuck harbor
js is the past
prisma wave
It's no Elm tho
stuck harbor
js for old people
kotlin for people in the year 2100
clojurescript for people born in a year beyond human comprehension
cinder flare
i dislike javascript because of its lack of static typing
surreal quarry
typescript
cinder flare
which i know typescript fixes, but still
prisma wave
Consider using elm ๐
surreal quarry
next js + typescript ๐ฉ
ocean quartz
Kotlin JS
old wyvern
Elm 
ocean quartz
Best language
prisma wave
kotlin bad
prisma wave
oh wtf
old wyvern
suspend fun fetchPublicIP() = runCatching {
...
}
Thats what I was writing
But kotlin is nagging me for the result type
oh wait
Maybe because its an Inline class
wait no
Other inline classes work
I have no idea
winter iron
I may or may not be high
however
i store user access tokens in browser cookies
right
then just get the cookie from client when i need to authenticate server side
static zealot
cinder flare
is the event over?
pale shell
It's not safe to leave my room due to my cat zooming around so more coding for me! ๐
half harness
i can't find the mappingssssssssssssssss
Download the obfuscation map you need for "Mapping file". Paste the crash report. You can then obtain the deobfuscated crash report for sharing.
obfuscation map = hyperlink to https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Obfuscation_map
but I can't find the mappings on that page
obtuse gale
anyone know the link for mojang obfuscation mappings?
client or server
half harness
client or server
server
obtuse gale
version?
ocean quartz
1.8
obtuse gale
1.16.5 k
obtuse gale
....
half harness
is more user friendly
I've been on it before
but on a different device so i can't look in historyyyyyy
ocean quartz
half harness
๐ซ
static zealot
you mean this? https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Obfuscation_map
obtuse gale
the only official actual website that provides the mappings is the wiki page for each version
ocean quartz
You can also find them in the version.json file in your versions folder
half harness
where u could see spigot and mojang mappings
ocean quartz
You're talking about mini's map viewer?
obtuse gale
yes
ocean quartz
obtuse gale
holy shit dkim
ocean quartz
You go around and around just to get to the very beginning with your questions lol
half harness
;-;
obtuse gale
also known as the xy problem
static zealot
where's z at?
obtuse gale
half harness
lol
ocean quartz
If you have a z problem then you know it's even more fucked
old wyvern
What lead to it being called the "xy" problem?
obtuse gale
beaiouing?
old wyvern
๐ฅฒ
static zealot
?xy
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
old wyvern
ocean quartz
What did you do to Baldi?
static zealot
these colors really make you think that I'm just a Tier I user lmao
static zealot
What did you do to Baldi?
nothing. just killed him
obtuse gale
What lead to it being called the "xy" problem?
dkim first: I need the mappings
we tried to decipher what he wanted but it was not what he actually needed
dkim then: there was this website where u could see spigot and mojang mappings
static zealot
he was very bad at math
obtuse gale
that is the xy problem
ocean quartz
I think he meant like the actual name xD
half harness
best game of 2021
old wyvern
best game of 2021
Magnificent
obtuse gale
Oh no I just meant how it generally ended up being called the xy problem
ah yeah no idea
because "I need X" but you actually needed Y?
idk
old wyvern
ohhh boii
ocean quartz
The term XY problem was implicitly coined by Eric S. Raymond in his text How To Ask Questions The Smart Way when adding "How can I use X to do Y?"
old wyvern
Another war with the ErLang compiler begins
static zealot
because "I need X" but you actually needed Y?
just read website
obtuse gale
there is no way I'm reading a website I just linked
static zealot
why? its pretty good
old wyvern
Yea I read it after blitz linked
prisma wave
best game of 2021
qiudhqiuhqiduhqiudh
static zealot
qtwwtwqtqw, tqtqwqrqwrqw tqtwq?
half harness
why is thinking of minigames so hard
old wyvern
ok... its jsut stuck now
static zealot
why is thinking of minigames so hard
ihgapH aihgpoiagoip aghabohgapoih aghpanogp. akiojgaoiph asgkhio[hihe4hshojn ahgioang hjehgiai0!!!
half harness
;-;
static zealot
speaking BM's language here. smh
ocean quartz
why is thinking of minigames so hard
Creativity
prisma wave
speaking BM's language here. smh
static zealot
ihgapH aihgpoiagoip aghabohgapoih aghpanogp. akiojgaoiph asgkhio[hihe4hshojn ahg...
^
static zealot
qiudhqiuhqiduhqiudh
^
prisma wave
huh?
static zealot
idk. you said some random things and I just decided to do the same and say I'm speaking your language
prisma wave
i say random things?
ocean quartz
He's talking about this #dev-general message
prisma wave
Oh lol
cinder flare
alright bois
my assignment is to create three different JavaScript functions of my choice
what should I make
cinder flare
these are soundin pretty lame
i wanna show off
does javascript have any functional parts to it
can I run Haskell code through JS or smoething
onyx loom
thats what i had to for my js lessons ๐คฃ
cinder flare
onyx loom
half of my class couldnt even do that either
prisma wave
does javascript have any functional parts to it
js is functional
just not purely functional
cinder flare
okay so what wacky shit can I do
forest pecan
functionOne() {
}
functionTwo() {
}
functionThree() {
}
functions are also objects
in js
prisma wave
lambdas
forest pecan
i believe
cinder flare
I mean like what would be some good functions to code that maybe include lambdas?
prisma wave
js has forEach, map, filter etc iirc
cinder flare
okay okay
prisma wave
first class functions too
cinder flare
wait really?
prisma wave
yes
prisma wave
functions are also objects
^
prisma wave
function getFunction() {
return () => console.log(":)");
}
getFunction()();
surprisinly, most of the syntax is actually similar to java except definitions
like loops, conditionals
a lot of stuff is the same
but javascript != java
cinder flare
huh
forest pecan
xD
prisma wave
yea fairly similar
forest pecan
Yeah
cinder flare
maybe my hatred was unfounded for all these years
obtuse gale
a lot of stuff is the same
=== ๐
forest pecan
well thats in kotlin and most frontend langs
obtuse gale
the only reason you'd use === in kotlin is the same reason you'd use == on Java
obtuse gale
^
forest pecan
=== is reference in kotlin
obtuse gale
yes
forest pecan
== is .equals
obtuse gale
mhm
forest pecan
in kotlin
cinder flare
yes exactly
prisma wave
if u really wanna show off make a curry function or something
forest pecan
but for js its the opposite
obtuse gale
but that's not how it works on js
cinder flare
yes exactly
obtuse gale
not at all?
cinder flare
and it's worse in JS
obtuse gale
not really the opposite?
forest pecan
i cant say opposite, but it takes types into consideration
cinder flare
well == tests for any kind of equality, === tests for actual quantitative equality
prisma wave
function curry1(f, a) {
return (b) => f(a, ...b)
}
``` ๐=== is like .equals and == is a clusterfuck no one understands
static zealot
ok lmaooo... https://i.imgur.com/5AXYfI6.png
cinder flare
poor boy
obtuse gale
F
prisma wave
๐ฅฒ
surreal quarry
lol
tranquil crane
why are you blue
forest pecan
why are you blue
tranquil crane
same reason as you
obtuse gale
static zealot
being stupid?
static zealot
smh... this is the first thing I got when I searched cars
and it was for an add
from an add*
vroom vroom
pale shell
has a wonderful idea, then doesn't implement it nor note it down now i forgot and i'm sad ๐ฆ
ocean quartz
So many team ๐คข
prisma wave
team good
static zealot
has a wonderful idea, then doesn't implement it nor note it down now i forgot an...
hehe. Tells himself to backup all his projects, proceeds to factory restore windows without backing them up.
surreal quarry
wdym
forest pecan
like for example for big classes you could add some sort of attribute which adds a builder class that is made inside the class
surreal quarry
builders aren't really a part of kotlin
you just use top level functions like buildString and stuff
surreal quarry
probably xp
forest pecan
oooo
onyx loom
idk how thatll work as its a team event
surreal quarry
for (user in team) { user.addExp(someAmount) }
onyx loom
๐ฉ
forest pecan
lol
surreal quarry
wouldn't be that hard
obtuse gale
val someAmount = String.MAX_VALUE
surreal quarry
someAmount * percentYouContributedToYourTeam
forest pecan
`val someAmount = String.MAX_VALUE`
memoryn't
obtuse gale
lol
forest pecan
wel technically, it would stop at max char array tho
cinder flare
wtf is String.MAX_VALUE anyways lol
obtuse gale
a meme
prisma wave
big
cinder flare
oh okay okay
surreal quarry
bm sent a paste of it
forest pecan
<@!347005619825278976> how big is big ๐
LMAO
prisma wave
<@!347005619825278976> how big is big ๐
very large
forest pecan
i told a girl that
obtuse gale
google it
forest pecan
now she hates me
prisma wave
ah.
cinder flare
now she hates me
i hope for your sake it was like, 3 inches lmao
tropic cypress
there is plugin names and versions etc. in plugin.yml file in plugins, will anything happen if we change the name?
surreal quarry
plugins that depend or soft-depend might not work, new folder, plugins that search for your plugin by name, etc
tropic cypress
hmm
static zealot
also what James said
tropic cypress
will it change the name of the plugin on /plugins?
surreal quarry
yes
cinder flare
Probably not allowed
tropic cypress
sad
obtuse gale
It's like a-zA-Z0-9\-_
cinder flare
mmm regex go brrr
forest pecan
No
surreal quarry
false
lunar cypress
what is you people's terminal emulator of choice
surreal quarry
fake news
tropic cypress
join us
cinder flare
say that again when you see the results lmao
forest pecan
you guys just are salty
tropic cypress
we will win
forest pecan
lol
tulip glade
It's like a-zA-Z0-9\\-_
Or \w
tropic cypress
how can I see