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old wyvern
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Smack may just be designed worse than even bukkit

quiet depot
cinder flare
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sounds like a worse-designed bukkit

old wyvern
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Every damn module has no thought for anything else

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A lot of them ignore connection settings from the main module

quiet depot
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da heck is xmpp

old wyvern
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extensible messaging and presence protocol

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Whatsapp uses a modified version of smack apparently

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But holy shit

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This is annoying to use

stuck harbor
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s m a c c

old wyvern
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companion object {
        @JvmStatic
        val ELEMENT = "filedata"
        @JvmStatic
        val NAMESPACE = "*****:filedata"
}

Imagine having to use this on a kotlin-first platform 🥲

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And mind you

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those variable names

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are enforced

stuck harbor
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wha

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how rude

old wyvern
cinder flare
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what color scheme is that?

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it's kinda cute

old wyvern
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Vuesion

hot hull
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Fellas

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Hocon for gui configuration, yes or no

half harness
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yaml

winter iron
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json

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ini

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XML

hot hull
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dkim, you say yaml one more fucking time

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And I'm asking this as a serious question, so if you've no clue what hocon even is heck out

winter iron
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If your making it so other people will use it

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i would say yaml

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since it makes it easier for them to use

forest pecan
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please dont use XML tho

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lol

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that shit is fucking bloated af

hot hull
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Yaml is hideous for gui construction

forest pecan
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json is great

hot hull
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No comments tho

surreal quarry
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{
“comment”: “Comments here”
}

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you just have to be creative

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smh

hot hull
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smh James

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arrow go brr

surreal quarry
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yikes

half harness
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wot

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wait u have to be a booster to be in cubes ping?

quiet depot
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no

half harness
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lol it was a long time ago

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|| someone dmed me the command ||

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"And I cant he asked clicking on it" wdym by this

quiet depot
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cube has sent it in public channels previously

regal gale
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Is that purpose or mistake lol

quiet depot
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on purpose

regal gale
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Oh

half harness
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if it was mistake he'd never have any members in it

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i forgot the cmd

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lol

regal gale
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Sure

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The hell man

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Stupid barry

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It's =||[redacted]||

tropic cypress
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How much of Java do we need to know to write a plugin?

stuck harbor
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all of it, hopefully

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to write a really good one

tropic cypress
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hmm

stuck harbor
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well 'all' of it

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basically

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?learn-java

compact perchBOT
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FAQ Answer:

Oracle Docs:
You should start with this, breeze through this(skipping stuff that doesn't seem relevant like bitwise operators), then hit this.
They're the first three from this larger thing which you should definitely go through overall. But those three should be enough for slightly better understanding of what is happening here without feeling like a huge time sink.
That one is a small part of this larger site wherein "Essential Java Classes" and "Collections" also have good useful stuff

Online Courses:
If you want some free online courses, you can find them on Coursera. Yes they are paid but you can chose to take them for free with the only disadvantage being the fact that you don't get a certificate at the end. Some of the best courses can be found Here.
You can also take a look at Udemy but from what I've seen most of those courses are paid.

Other services:
Some other cool services that will help you learn java are SoloLearn, W3Schools and JetBrains Academy.

As you can see there are plenty of good ways to learn as long as you're willing to invest the time. Have fun learning!

tropic cypress
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ok

stuck harbor
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that

tropic cypress
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thx

ocean quartz
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Gold morning, beautiful people

hot hull
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Tis 5 pm

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It is a beautiful day tho

frail glade
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Lmao

ocean quartz
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Oi it's 3pm and i just woke up so it's morning!

hot hull
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4pm*

ocean quartz
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3:51 is still 3

half harness
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10:51 :)

onyx loom
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perfect time to be waking up matt!

ocean quartz
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Hell yeah

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The sun should be going down soon don't have to worry about any of this "sun light" problem

sweet cipher
onyx loom
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who needs vitamin D am i right

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the only light source ull be getting is from the RGB keyboard 😎

forest pecan
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it has a built in console, arguments section, version selector and it will run the command shit for u

obtuse gale
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:o

cinder flare
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Now that's pretty cool, problem being I will never willingly run build tools again when I can just download paper in one click 🙂

obtuse gale
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legit

cinder flare
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It said that to me when I tried to edit BetterJails lmao

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I was like "that's a sign"

obtuse gale
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lmfao

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this is towny 👀

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JetBrains wants people to move to gradle

cinder flare
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Nah it happened to me with gradle too

hot hull
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It gives that warning for any repo

lunar cypress
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It's even worse with gradle

obtuse gale
forest pecan
cinder flare
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I feel like that warning is useless because I'm always going to click yes because it will always be a repo I just cloned

obtuse gale
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How is it I haven't come across this until now lol

sweet cipher
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It looks kind of cool

forest pecan
cinder flare
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That macos jump scared me

forest pecan
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lmao

jovial warren
cinder flare
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What is it written in?

forest pecan
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java

forest pecan
jovial warren
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lol

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I couldn't not

forest pecan
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i used swing

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i didnt bother making anything pretty tho

jovial warren
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time for another hotline bling

lunar cypress
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I think you don't want "Xmx" twice there

jovial warren
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no idea how tf you noticed that

forest pecan
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oh

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oops

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gui mistake

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hahahaha

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thanks for pointing that out lmao

jovial warren
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also, is it just me or is caching one of the most useful and amazing features to be invented in the world of computing

cinder flare
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Yeah it kinda slaps dude

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Especially for SQL queries and such

jovial warren
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and chunk data fingerguns

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actually no, world data

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caching chunk data kinda works but kinda also doesn't

cinder flare
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Did you finally figure out how to cache those json bois?

jovial warren
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nope

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haven't even bothered with fixing tags yet

cinder flare
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Shit bro do I gotta make a hot PR

jovial warren
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if you have a solution, go for it

cinder flare
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We talked about it for like, an hour yesterday

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Your brain was just too funky to implement it lol

jovial warren
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lol

forest pecan
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Hey! I got an idea! Don't shame people with static abuse! Instead, say not to use singleton abuse! Sounds more professional = less shame 😄

onyx loom
half harness
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singletons aren't the only form of static thonking

forest pecan
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lmao its a joke

half harness
forest pecan
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well there is like two types of static abuse

steel heart
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static would be lit if java would let us use inheritance with it

forest pecan
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the method type

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and the instance type

steel heart
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the class type also

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class Main {
  static class Runnable1 implements Lol {}
}
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etc

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tho

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I

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g

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its good

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as opposed to inner classes

forest pecan
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yea

steel heart
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anyways

forest pecan
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well i only would use it for like builders

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anyways

steel heart
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I am still waiting for

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static inheritance

jovial warren
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wait what

steel heart
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yeah

forest pecan
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do you guys encapsulate static fields?

steel heart
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its gonna be in java version 3248372489278

jovial warren
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static classes can't inherit from other classes?

forest pecan
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lol

steel heart
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hm ?

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if they extend a class they can or what

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I mean like static methods

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@Override
public static void run() {

}

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or smtng

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guess it wont ever be a thing

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it would certainly break something else

forest pecan
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do you guys encapsulate static fields tho?

jovial warren
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haven't had one of these in a while

steel heart
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pulse depends

forest pecan
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like make them private and final

steel heart
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if its contants no

forest pecan
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and make getter

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oh

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is it fine if i do?

steel heart
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yeah

forest pecan
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ok

steel heart
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its better to encapsulate than to not I guess

forest pecan
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cause i just like it better using getter methods

steel heart
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and also we have Collections.EMPTY_LIST vs Collections.emptyList() where the latter 99% of the times would be nicer due to type inference

forest pecan
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Yeah

ocean quartz
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@steel heart Do you mean inheritance like this?
Where the object inherits from the another class and it becomes "static"

steel heart
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hmm can u translate that to java pls lol

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class Test {
void hello() {}
}

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would that be it?

ocean quartz
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Similar to this, there isn't really a direct equivalent

public class Test {
  void hello() {}
}

public class Object extends Test {
  private Object() {}
}

// Statically calls hello
Object.hello();
steel heart
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oh okay

cinder flare
jovial warren
steel heart
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hmm well to be fair I don't really know exactly how it would work but I just came up with in on a whim maybe being able to override static methods and so on but that would come with another generation of problems

jovial warren
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it's one of those "I've reported your account on Steam for illegal purchases, please contact this totally legitimate support team member on Discord" scams

cinder flare
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Oh never seen one

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I thought someone like force pushed to the Krypton master branch or something lol

jovial warren
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instantly unfriends

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lol

cinder flare
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Nice

onyx loom
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shouldve put a tinyurl or remove embed

jovial warren
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lol

half harness
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how does hypixel make like colored beds?

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even when its a 1.7 server

jovial warren
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  1. not necessarily a 1.7 server
  2. packets
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you know how ViaVersion actually works right?

ocean quartz
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Ah yes the hitbox is perfect, good job matt

jovial warren
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lol

cinder flare
half harness
jovial warren
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ViaVersion does packet translation

half harness
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wait so if i send like 1.16 packets

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to 1.16 client

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it'll work?

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👀

jovial warren
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it takes a 1.7 packet, turns it into something 1.16 understands, and sends it to 1.16

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oml dkim

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you didn't know that?

half harness
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uh

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i thought that the server

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would like throw an error

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because it didn't recognize that packet

jovial warren
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you know the client understands any packets that it's programmed to understand right?

half harness
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or something

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what if i sent 1.16 packet to 1.8 client?

jovial warren
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your best bet is to send the raw data though

jovial warren
half harness
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raw data?

half harness
jovial warren
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binary
data

half harness
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error?
crash?

jovial warren
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it'll throw an error in the log if you have the debug level shown

half harness
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oh

obtuse gale
half harness
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ooo

jovial warren
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I've seen it happen with Krypton too many times before lol

half harness
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so if i were to make a colored beds plugin

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for 1.8

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(1.16 client ofc)

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how would i do that?

jovial warren
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even if you send a 1.16 packet, if the client doesn't like it, it'll spit it right back out

jovial warren
half harness
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so if i use protocollib

cinder flare
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Just tell it to send the 1.16 version of the packet to the 1.16 clients

jovial warren
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you know how client-server works right?

half harness
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sorta

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eh

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not really

jovial warren
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did you do computer science at school?

half harness
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lol

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no not yet

jovial warren
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or are you doing it

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wdym not yet? how old are you? 10?

half harness
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._.

cinder flare
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Lmao

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Dkim is 7 confirmed

jovial warren
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lol

cinder flare
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That's why he wouldn't talk!

jovial warren
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I mean, with some of the things he comes out with, that's not a very far fetched guess starmism

half harness
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to be fair

cinder flare
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Haha

half harness
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about a year ago

jovial warren
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what

cinder flare
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About than?

half harness
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i wasn't even interested in computers much

sweet cipher
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That edit made it less readable lol

half harness
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oh

jovial warren
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why would you edit your sentence to make it not make sense

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ffs dkim

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brains

half harness
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lol

jovial warren
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oh I've got the perfect meme for this

half harness
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the codedred tutorial is what made me be interested in computers

jovial warren
half harness
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i started coding plugins

jovial warren
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that brings me right back to the Sx days

half harness
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👀

cinder flare
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What's up with Sx anyways who was he? All I hear are people being sad or whatever

obtuse gale
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and entitled bitch

jovial warren
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pretty much

half harness
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from the little info i was given he was some rude smart person

obtuse gale
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thankfully someone I didn't get to know

cinder flare
obtuse gale
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and cute

half harness
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👀

cinder flare
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👀

jovial warren
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he was a proper smart ass who thought he knew it all (and in some cases he actually did tbf)

cinder flare
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What happened to him?

jovial warren
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had a falling out with clip

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and clip banned him

cinder flare
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Oh jeez

jovial warren
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I mean, he kinda deserved it, he forced out a PAPI update that removed loads of deprecated API methods that broke a shit ton of expansions

ocean quartz
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Cube banned, Clip actually left the server

jovial warren
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oh yeah

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I wonder if we'll ever see the return of sx

cinder flare
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I mean, deprecated things are bound to be removed

jovial warren
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yeah but these were methods that had been in the API for ages, and this was released as a patch release

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I mean, clip was pretty naive tbh to just kinda let him get on with it

ocean quartz
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Doubt it
He got kicked from Paper after that then he unfriended everyone and disappeared

jovial warren
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not surprised he got kicked out of Paper

cinder flare
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He worked on paper? Wow

hot hull
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I'm surprised how you're still in here

obtuse gale
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people get kicked from the paper server for any reason lmao

hot hull
half harness
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woah

obtuse gale
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I know some who got kicked for discussing politics in the politics channel

half harness
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i left to check a ping from different server

onyx loom
jovial warren
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Paper is weird

half harness
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and i read that matt said "Cube banned, clip left"

obtuse gale
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lol

old wyvern
ocean quartz
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I definitely know what I am doing, i promise

old wyvern
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For kotlin propaganda

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😂

jovial warren
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Paper's general chat is like a tight friendship circle that hates outsiders

onyx loom
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😫

ocean quartz
cinder flare
cinder flare
jovial warren
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yeah but we welcomed you

obtuse gale
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well but you were accepted

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we do accept outsiders

jovial warren
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^

obtuse gale
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sometimes 🙂

cinder flare
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Nah I was a sleeper

jovial warren
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we just don't like idiots

cinder flare
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Look at my history

onyx loom
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@...

old wyvern
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Are they really that unwelcoming?

jovial warren
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and when I say idiots, I don't mean dkim kind of idiot, I mean the idiot who comes in here asking for support with plugins

old wyvern
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Dude

cinder flare
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Lmao

jovial warren
old wyvern
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Thats not even a joke now, that was just rude

jovial warren
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jk dkim ily ❤️

half harness
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dkim kind of idiot
I didn't know I had my own type of 'idiot' thonking

old wyvern
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Lol

half harness
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lol

jovial warren
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lol

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omfg

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look at the Paper logo

cinder flare
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Oh shit, bardy boutta be sxtanna'd and banned from the server for being mean lmao

jovial warren
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speaking of Paper

half harness
obtuse gale
old wyvern
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Ah

jovial warren
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what the actual fuck

obtuse gale
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unless you do like I do and idk I just have a few of them added as friend lmao

jovial warren
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wait ik why

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look what day it is

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what day is it tomorrow

half harness
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hey look

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im popular now

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😤

cinder flare
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😊

ocean quartz
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Dude wtf, what part of an entity that controls the hitbox thonking

old wyvern
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BoundingBox or something matt

jovial warren
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OMFG haha

onyx loom
jovial warren
half harness
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wheres da embed

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._.

obtuse gale
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it has no embed

old wyvern
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Gone

cinder flare
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Paper looking kinda cute...

cinder flare
obtuse gale
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you know who else looking cute?

ocean quartz
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They should keep that

half harness
jovial warren
hot hull
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papers icon is amazing

cinder flare
obtuse gale
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👁️

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I just realized that my eye looks even more feminine when the whole pic is colored

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people were right lmao

cinder flare
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Drunk Adora lookin kinda cute haha

prisma wave
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new eye pic scares me

cinder flare
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It feels much more realistic

obtuse gale
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gee I like it

jovial warren
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who's eye even is that lol

obtuse gale
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wow

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hurt

cinder flare
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I presume theirs lol

obtuse gale
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yes indeed

jovial warren
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lol

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is that actually your eye

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why would you put your own eye in a profile picture

ocean quartz
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Maybe he is an eye

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You never know

obtuse gale
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Why would you but a B on an orange background as pfp

cinder flare
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Why would you put the letter b on an orange background for your profile picture? Hmmm?

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Oh shit

obtuse gale
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lmao

ocean quartz
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Ayy fixed

cinder flare
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That still doesn't look great matt lol

ocean quartz
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Doesn't have to, as long as it doesn't die because the hitbox is in the ground it works for me

obtuse gale
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minutes later Bardy has his eye as discord pfp

half harness
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lol

cinder flare
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I mean it'd be pretty funny

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Though I do like how everyone has a very unique style of pfp

half harness
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lol

cinder flare
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Dkim your fucking spoiler is so hard to click on mobile

half harness
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i put it for a long time

cinder flare
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I still didn't see it

half harness
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my pfp history (iirc):

  1. default discord
  2. invisible
  3. current - mc
ocean quartz
cinder flare
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Wait which one am i

ocean quartz
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Disney lmao

half harness
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Wait which one am i

obtuse gale
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lol I read "disney weeb"

ocean quartz
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Fefo, commas are important!

obtuse gale
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comas are important

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give me one

cinder flare
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Bro She-Ra is made by dreamworks not Disney

half harness
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yay star

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u reacted

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lol the amount of times i say 👀

obtuse gale
cinder flare
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I did not know that was what that was called lol

ocean quartz
static zealot
half harness
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||is it possible to run java code without java installed||

cinder flare
half harness
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wait what

obtuse gale
cinder flare
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Yeah like gradlew but for Java!

static zealot
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fefo?

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tier 5 looks bad on you

cinder flare
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👀

static zealot
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also ey has changed

obtuse gale
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yeah ik

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I should be 6

obtuse gale
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coloured

static zealot
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eye*

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fuck

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more details

obtuse gale
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no don't fuck eye

static zealot
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:))))

half harness
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11 hours until april

cinder flare
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More like 13.25

static zealot
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man I got access to my dedi back but my ptero wings won't start. This mf really hates me

obtuse gale
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10.13

cinder flare
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How much you pay for that bad boy?

static zealot
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for the dedi? idk. I think its like 100/3 mo or something like that

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I don't pay for it. I can't afford it lmao. my brother doese

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does*

oak raft
cinder flare
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100/3? What does that mean

oak raft
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how many of u knew about this

cinder flare
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They announced it lol

oak raft
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o_o

cinder flare
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It's in the discord developer portal or whatever it is

static zealot
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100$

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I always talk in $. even tho I don't use it

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lmao

cinder flare
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Oh $100 quarterly

static zealot
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yeah what you said

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I think

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but I should check

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lmao

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2 seconds

cinder flare
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Wait are you bri ish

static zealot
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no

olive lion
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pastebin is outdated woo

jovial warren
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rushed API

oak raft
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why bad

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eh

static zealot
oak raft
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if it works it works

jovial warren
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JDA doesn't have them for a reason

olive lion
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no I mean

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disord added cool thing

oak raft
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well its not like its done right?

static zealot
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ahh that thing

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idk.

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I still like some paste bins

oak raft
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its still being worked on?

static zealot
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over that

jovial warren
olive lion
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text boxes and expansions

cinder flare
prisma wave
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🙄

static zealot
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bcz I like to have the text one one screen and discord chat on the other

prisma wave
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Can't catch a break these days

static zealot
prisma wave
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every kotlin user and their mum's reinvented the wheel at least once

jovial warren
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might actually switch to Kord tbh

static zealot
jovial warren
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it actually looks very good

cinder flare
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Wtf is ron

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Like ron Swanson?

onyx loom
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romanian currency

static zealot
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my country's currency smh. The greatest currency to have ever existed. It is also called leu which literally means lion. bcz our currency is king. smh no it sucks but yeah

cinder flare
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Oh I see

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Are you guys not in the EU?

static zealot
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we are

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but not everyone in eu

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uses euro

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smh

onyx loom
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uneducated americans if u ask me

cinder flare
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I thought everyone except bri ain did

half harness
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me too

static zealot
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czech republic has their own currency as well for example.

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just some countries do.

cinder flare
onyx loom
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denmark too

static zealot
cinder flare
onyx loom
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i think sweden does too

static zealot
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yeah

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quite a few countries

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have their own currency

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and I kinda like it. Because if a country's economy collapses and it uses euro, the whole euro value will fucking collapse. well I think at least. not sure xD

cinder flare
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That's literally what happened to Greece lol

onyx loom
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hmm surprised by poland

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whats the polish currency?

cinder flare
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Oof bri ain still listed as EU

onyx loom
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we still technically are i think

prisma wave
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🥲

onyx loom
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were in the transition phase afaik

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brexit news has been dead for so long i dont even know whats happening anymore

static zealot
cinder flare
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I know what the Peruvian currency is

static zealot
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I think it has a weird char in it

prisma wave
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Remember shamima begum? Me neiher

jovial warren
onyx loom
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😂😂

jovial warren
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we ended that at the end of last year

onyx loom
#

she got rejected did t she

prisma wave
#

Probably

#

Idk

jovial warren
#

what kind of rock you been living under

#

I heard she actually got re-allowed

prisma wave
#

Brexit and Covid kinda made her irrelevant

cinder flare
#

Fucking who

onyx loom
#

nah shamima popped up like last month

#

denied im pretty sure

onyx loom
ocean quartz
onyx loom
#

smth like that

cinder flare
#

Oh nice

#

Sounds like an upstanding bri ish citizen

prisma wave
#

Isis been real quiet since fortnite came out tho

onyx loom
#

🤨

#

they been busy cranking those 90s

static zealot
onyx loom
#

yikes

cinder flare
#

Fucking what

#

250 euro per year?

static zealot
#

per mo lmao

#

month*

ocean quartz
#

Changing to euro was a huge thing when my country did, i wasn't here but they said it made the economy bloom a lot

cinder flare
#

Salary definitely means per year

static zealot
#

no it doesn't

obtuse gale
#

It varies from country to country

onyx loom
#

new eye

#

wait no its just colourised

obtuse gale
#

Why yes

forest pecan
#

fefo wtf

#

lol

cinder flare
#

"Often expressed as an annual sum"

ocean quartz
static zealot
#

:)))

onyx loom
#

lol

static zealot
#

fucking americans

#

they thing everything has to be like they want it

cinder flare
#

I've never heard anyone say salary for not a year

jovial warren
#

what

ocean quartz
#

Only americans do

obtuse gale
#

Well now you have

static zealot
#

yeah

cinder flare
#

Weirdos smh

jovial warren
#

I've heard hourly, weekly, monthly and yearly salaries

#

you can't live only getting paid once a year

ocean quartz
#

I remember someone was like, my salary is 50k and i was like holy shit you make that much in a month

cinder flare
#

Yeah but you use salary to talk about how much you make over a year

cinder flare
#

You can also express your earnings as hourly

#

But you don't call it a salary

jovial warren
#

we wouldn't really say salary there though

#

I'd just say "I make 50 grand a year"

stuck harbor
#

I just say '----- per month'

static zealot
cinder flare
#

Hardly anyone says per week or per month lol

static zealot
#

even the states calculates the minimum salary per month

ocean quartz
#

Salary for most countries is a monthly pay, anything else you would specify

static zealot
#

which is about 281.74

#

euros

stuck harbor
#

lol america uses the Webster dicctionary and everyone else uses the Oxford dicctionary

#

thems the rules

jovial warren
#

wait the US pays per year?

ocean quartz
#

Another difference, US uses minimum wage as per hour basis, while we use it as monthly

onyx loom
#

oh god seriously

half harness
#

dicctionary

cinder flare
#

No lol

jovial warren
#

99% of salaries in the UK are per month

stuck harbor
#

oui

cinder flare
#

That's just how you express how much you make

jovial warren
#

and probably around the world as well

onyx loom
#

iwanio thats literally just america trying to "distance themselves from the world"

stuck harbor
#

lol yeah

cinder flare
#

You usually get paid on a bi-weekly basis

stuck harbor
#

what

#

the fuck

onyx loom
#

what

#

since when

static zealot
#

US sucks man.

jovial warren
#

what the fuck

stuck harbor
#

u get paid twice a week?

cinder flare
#

Every two weeks

static zealot
#

no iwanio xD

#

every 2 weeks

cinder flare
#

Lmao

stuck harbor
#

and American weeks start on a fucking sunday

jovial warren
#

also, bi-weekly basis? that's called fortnightly

stuck harbor
#

the fuck

ocean quartz
stuck harbor
#

why do american weeks start on sunday

#

insane

jovial warren
#

you get paid fortnightly, not "on a bi-weekly basis"

onyx loom
#

i thought like everyone was paid monthly???

jovial warren
#

nobody says bi-weekly

cinder flare
#

Wdym that's just how it is

ocean quartz
stuck harbor
#

no

#

its Monday here

jovial warren
#

also, who in the world gets paid fortnightly wtf

cinder flare
stuck harbor
#

Sunday is on the weekend

#

not the weekstart

ocean quartz
#

Monday is the first work day, Sunday is the technical first day of the week

jovial warren
#

you either get paid hourly or get paid monthly

stuck harbor
#

no

static zealot
#

everywhere it is Sunday smh

stuck harbor
#

matt thats just false

#

incorrect

static zealot
#

just google it iwanio

stuck harbor
#

my calendars start on a monday

#

thats just how it is

jovial warren
#

oml

onyx loom
#

pretty suree its sunday

jovial warren
#

Europe's first day of the week is Monday

static zealot
#

they are not the first day of the week tho

jovial warren
#

suck it nerds

cinder flare
#

Unless you're not using the Gregorian calendar, your first day is Sunday

jovial warren
#

what the fuck

stuck harbor
#

no

jovial warren
#

no

static zealot
#

BBG not ours. In romania it is Sunday.

onyx loom
#

but monday is just the start of the week because of school/work

ocean quartz
jovial warren
#

Monday is the first day of the week

prisma wave
#

Development general

static zealot
#

but work days start on monday

jovial warren
obtuse gale
onyx loom
#

if u look at churches and stuff im pretty sure they say its sunday

cinder flare
jovial warren
#

yes

stuck harbor
#

it is right

jovial warren
#

because that's normal

cinder flare
#

That's fucked up

#

You're in the minority, even here

obtuse gale
#

Literally every courtney I've visited has Sundays as the first day of the week lol

#

Country*

static zealot
# jovial warren because that's **normal**

In romania Sunday is the first day of the week but every calendar, work, school, everything starts on Monday. and they even teach us its Monday. but legally it is not

obtuse gale
#

Mobile smh

jovial warren
#

yeah maybe we are the minority

ocean quartz
#

No lol over here it's Sunday too

onyx loom
prisma wave
jovial warren
#

you ask anyone in the UK what the first day of the week is and they'll say Monday

sweet cipher
#

Why would it even matter what day it starts?

ocean quartz
#

Sounds like an UK thing to be monday first

static zealot
#

thy do start on monday in UK according to google

cinder flare
jovial warren
#

I mean, school starts on a Monday and you go back to work on a Monday

sweet cipher
#

Put Wednesday first then

jovial warren
#

so it only really makes sense

cinder flare
#

Wtf

jovial warren
#

you don't start your working week on a Sunday and end it on a Thursday do you

ocean quartz
#

We differentiate them

sweet cipher
jovial warren
#

nah us normal human beings just have them as the same thing

ocean quartz
#

Monday is the first business day, sunday is the first week day

cinder flare
obtuse gale
#

In here, a work week or business week is from mon -> fri

sweet cipher
obtuse gale
#

A regular week is just sun -> sat

static zealot
jovial warren
static zealot
#

I know

obtuse gale
cinder flare
#

At least our weeks are right smh

sweet cipher
ocean quartz
#

OMG can we talk about the UK using fucking STONES as weight measurement?

static zealot
onyx loom
#

matt we use metric system legally

static zealot
#

I know how much 20 cm is with my fingers

#

and I can measure things pretty accurately

sweet cipher
jovial warren
onyx loom
#

but culturally with the older generation they say stones more, altho younger generation are starting to say metric units

jovial warren
#

that's just normal to me

obtuse gale
onyx loom
#

we only recently changed to metric (last few decades afaik) so thats why

cinder flare
#

Bri ain is just a fucking weird place that's all I know

ocean quartz
#

I remember asking someone about their weight and they reply with "13 stones"

onyx loom
#

A week is a time unit equal to seven days. It is the standard time period used for cycles of rest days in most parts of the world, mostly alongside—although not strictly part of—the Gregorian calendar.
In many languages, the days of the week are named after classical planets or gods of a pantheon. In English, the names are Monday, Tuesday, Wedne...

sweet cipher
#

Maybe we should have no measurements then nobody would argue

static zealot
onyx loom
#

metric system is clearly superior

static zealot
#

but a lot of countries start on Sunday

sweet cipher
static zealot
#

metric system is the best. especially now that it's the same everywhere :)))))

onyx loom
#

except USA and liberia

sweet cipher
#

Yep

onyx loom
#

imperial is fucked

sweet cipher
#

If they say stones they must know pounds

onyx loom
#

none of it makes sense

#

i think 6lbs is 1 stone, but what do i know

jovial warren
prisma wave
#

Bri ish be like "america n is so silly 😫 😫 let me travel 18 yards and 12 miles to confim my height is 5 feet 5 inches and my weight is 11 stone 3 pounds"

cinder flare
#

Metric system is kinda cute, but you'll never get me to use Celsius willingly

jovial warren
#

Matt where do you find these images lol

#

honestly

onyx loom
#

oh god

#

farenehit is worse than imperial

sweet cipher
#

Use kelvin obviously

onyx loom
#

^

static zealot
#

its so easy

cinder flare
#

No Fahrenheit is a better temperature scheme for human beings

ocean quartz
static zealot
#

no its not???

obtuse gale
onyx loom
#

how so

jovial warren
onyx loom
#

0 is freezing point, whats so hard about that

static zealot
#

its better for you Starmism. bcz you know it.

static zealot
obtuse gale
#

Mmmm all those cookies

cinder flare
# static zealot no its not???

The range of temperatures a human experiences in Celcius is between like -10 and 30. The range of temperatures a human experiences in Fahrenheit is like 0-100

static zealot
#

lmaoo

cinder flare
#

Fahrenheit is better for measuring human temperatures than celcius

static zealot
#

Literally last year

#

it was 40

#

or something like that

cinder flare
#

yeah whatever bro

#

point being, you get more precision with fahrenheit

static zealot
#

bcz of global warming

onyx loom
#

?????????

cinder flare
#

30 degrees will never be "hot" to me

static zealot
#

no you don't.

sweet cipher
cinder flare
jovial warren
static zealot
jovial warren
#

you ever heard of it starmism?

cinder flare
onyx loom
#

i heard u can place decimal points by using the "."

jovial warren
#

also, boiling temperature being 100 degrees makes sense

obtuse gale
#

And celsius works fine for everyone else

static zealot
#

I mean what the fuck do I do with precision? if the temperature is 30-40 I know its going to be hot. ..

#

lmao

jovial warren
#

and also freezing temperature being 0 degrees

static zealot
#

I don't care if its 31.42453252

jovial warren
#

rather than like 32

cinder flare
#

oh yeah no I agree it makes more sense for scientific purposes

obtuse gale
cinder flare
#

but for every day usage, it's meaningless

static zealot
#

no its not

cinder flare
#

alright man whatever

#

just saying, I'm down with metric

#

but not celcius

onyx loom
#

yuck

ocean quartz
#

Dude my temperature is currently 310.15K

sweet cipher
onyx loom
#

holy shit thats crazy

jovial warren
onyx loom
#

isnt kelvin based off the coldest thing possible being 0 or smth?

jovial warren
#

obviously, like 99% of the world disagrees with you starmism

prisma wave
#

Yes

static zealot
#

also Kelvin is what scientists use isn't it?

cinder flare
#

99% of the world never got a chance to use fahrenheit

onyx loom
#

yes

jovial warren
onyx loom
#

yeah

jovial warren
#

the coldest an object can possibly get

sweet cipher
#

Like the sun

jovial warren
static zealot
jovial warren
#

the sun is literally the polar opposite of absolute 0

static zealot
#

you missed 2 countries :)))

prisma wave
#

wait is someone talking about numbers? Time for the obligatory overflow joke

obtuse gale
#

Kelvin is clearly superior

#

300 kelvin is room temperature

jovial warren
obtuse gale
#

Period

cinder flare
prisma wave
#

Haha what if Kelvin underflowed haha

sweet cipher
obtuse gale
#

Literally the definition of room temperature is 300 kelvin lol

jovial warren
static zealot
#

like it will go from absolute 0 to absolute 100

#

idk what absoulte 100 is

#

or if it exists

cinder flare
#

Integer.MAX_VALUE

ocean quartz
#

It's currently 291.15K outside

prisma wave
#

jovial warren
#

absolute aleph null more like

old wyvern
#

517282839KKK

static zealot
#

Kelvin.MAX_VALUE

prisma wave
#

ah yes, that vsauce video

jovial warren
#

lol

cinder flare
#

god i love arguments

#

what's my xp at I wonder

static zealot
cinder flare
#

30% bois

old wyvern
#

Same

#

6k more to go

#

Purple

cinder flare
#

nice Blitz

static zealot
#

I'm just 700 xp away from taking second spot in =xp lb

old wyvern
#

Blitz to beat bm? 😮

onyx loom
#

😮

static zealot
#

he's like over 100k

prisma wave
#

My nitro ran out so I'm now stuck at level 75 till the end of time

static zealot
#

xp away

old wyvern
#

😂

static zealot
#

unless we get him banned

jovial warren
#

gonna be behind pig for a bit I think

#

still cracks me up every time I see that peppa pig background on the leader board

static zealot
#

Vote to ban @prisma wave so I can take #1 on the xp lederboard

prisma wave
#

☹️

static zealot
#

that's a close fight

prisma wave
#

why

#

It should be unanimous

half harness
static zealot
#

yeah

jovial warren
#

there's no way the -1s have actually won that

static zealot
#

we should all +1

onyx loom
#

no

prisma wave
#

this discord would be unbelievably dead without me

static zealot
jovial warren
#

lol

onyx loom
#

no more haskell support 😩

prisma wave
#

🥲

jovial warren
#

that used to be true

static zealot
#

but don't you worry BM I'll take funnycube's spot before you will and I'll ban you

jovial warren
#

but you hardly even talk that often anymore

old wyvern
#

Wtf

old wyvern
#

Yt music free just redeemed itself

prisma wave
jovial warren
#

oml why have I only just realised that #2 and #3 are level 69

static zealot
#

how?

old wyvern
#

Doesnt that require credit card details?

old wyvern
cinder flare
old wyvern
#

I just got a mail that it got activated till april 14th

#

Oh wait

#

April fools maybe

cinder flare
#

I had to click on that bad boy and realize it didn't scroll lmao

static zealot
jovial warren
onyx loom
#

yes

prisma wave
#

no, you want to talk about Kotlin for all eternity

cinder flare
#

yes

prisma wave
#

Apparently

onyx loom
#

lmao this is true

jovial warren
#

because Kotlin is the superior language

old wyvern
#

Ew

onyx loom
#

kotlin has been circlejerked for over a year now

jovial warren
#

that's just a fact of the universe

static zealot
prisma wave
#

🙄

jovial warren
old wyvern
#

Kotlin circlejerk has been over for a long time now

#

😌

cinder flare
static zealot
#

at least pretend that you're like us...

prisma wave
prisma wave
jovial warren
#

no, because Kotlin is still the objectively superior programming language

prisma wave
#

objectively superior by what measures?

old wyvern
#

^

static zealot
sweet cipher
#

Fahrenheit

jovial warren
#

just by facts

obtuse gale
#

O no

#

So*

jovial warren
#

it's a fact of the universe

old wyvern
onyx loom
#

"objective" yet runs on the jvm 🙂

ocean quartz
#

By personal opinionated facts

cinder flare
half harness
prisma wave
#

It should be easy

#

Kinda

static zealot
#

"Kinda"

#

lmao

prisma wave
#

I don't know that much

#

So

old wyvern
#

Bugfree stateless applications vs stateful buggy applications

cinder flare
jovial warren
#

define stateless for me again

prisma wave
#

no state

#

🙂

cinder flare
#

state? never heard of her

jovial warren
#

no properties? variables? fields?

static zealot
#

YOOOOOO

#

I just realised something

old wyvern
#

Those arent state in that sense

jovial warren
#

well they are

prisma wave
#

state is mutability

old wyvern
#

In haskell they are refrentially transparent as well

jovial warren
#

no, that's state that can change BM

#

not state

old wyvern
#

So a binding is equal to just replacement

sweet cipher
#

Like the United States

jovial warren
#

state is just a thing that is a thing

#

worst explanation ever lol

cinder flare
#

well no state by its definition is properties about an object that can change

prisma wave
cinder flare
#

so yeah state = mutability

prisma wave
#

Pretty much

#

Also

old wyvern
#

Mhm

static zealot
#

@jovial warren @old wyvern @jovial warren @cinder flare @prisma wave @half harness @ocean quartz @obtuse gale @obtuse gale @stuck harbor @forest pecan @lunar cypress @hot hull @steel heart @surreal quarry Join COC!!!

prisma wave
#

The main reason you should learn haskell is so you can show off by saying big words like "monad" and "parametric polymorphism"

obtuse gale
#

Can't

#

Cookin

onyx loom
#

staff abuse

prisma wave
#

Later

cinder flare
#

bro I'm just about to take a shower smh

obtuse gale
#

Sexy

surreal quarry
#

staff abuse i agree

static zealot
static zealot
#

yeah me too

cinder flare
#

im just impressed I was before BM lol

prisma wave
#

Everyone cooking nowadays

surreal quarry
#

i do be eating

jovial warren
# static zealot <@!266294134116057089> <@!235475470806679554> <@!266294134116057089> <@!18625...

@static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot @static zealot no

jovial warren
#

lol

jovial warren
static zealot
#

btw you know it only pings once right?\

jovial warren
#

yeah I was taking the piss

prisma wave
#

the world if it pinged twice:

cinder flare
#

uh