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half harness Mar 24, 2021, 3:43 PM

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i thought it was like a big pen

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lol

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 3:43 PM

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Never ever seen that in my life

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 3:43 PM

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oh is that the thing you see in like cartoons and stuff

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 3:43 PM

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until smoke came out

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 3:43 PM

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Yeah we don't have those over here

lunar cypress Mar 24, 2021, 3:43 PM

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you put water flavour and coal there and then smoke the vapor

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 3:43 PM

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weird

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 3:43 PM

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wot

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 3:44 PM

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lunar cypress you put water flavour and coal there and then smoke the vapor

Germans are fucking weird

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Jesus

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 3:44 PM

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YES

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 3:44 PM

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lol

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 3:44 PM

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prisma wave ***__YES__***

COOL

lunar cypress Mar 24, 2021, 3:44 PM

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I haven't seen it much elsewhere though that's true

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 3:44 PM

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Yea that's not german I don't think

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 3:44 PM

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 3:44 PM

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prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 3:44 PM

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THANKS

lunar cypress Mar 24, 2021, 3:44 PM

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In Germany you have bars for these at every corner

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 3:45 PM

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prisma wave ***__THANKS__***

NP

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oops

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 3:45 PM

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jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 3:45 PM

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My parents just said they recognise it

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They know it as a shisha

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Or a bong

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F

frail glade Mar 24, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Happy Birthday!

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 3:46 PM

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Afternoon Glare

lunar cypress Mar 24, 2021, 3:46 PM

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shisha fucks your lungs even more than regular cigarettes

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 3:46 PM

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Will you guys hate me if i do @NotNull final instead of final @NotNull

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 3:47 PM

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https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/player-hold-item-event.496932/
Imagine how dissapointed they are with this response

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 3:48 PM

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IntelliJ

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Lol

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 3:50 PM

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aw why

lunar cypress Mar 24, 2021, 3:50 PM

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he's right though

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 3:50 PM

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what did ivan say

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 3:51 PM

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i said "what is that IDE? notepad++++?"

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 3:51 PM

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lol

lunar cypress Mar 24, 2021, 3:51 PM

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there's a difference between not accepting other opinions and saying right off the bat that you aren't interested in arguments about IDEs

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 3:51 PM

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notepad--

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 3:52 PM

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what's he saying

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fair enough 😥

lunar cypress Mar 24, 2021, 3:54 PM

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he's tired of people telling him to use another IDE because they provide no sufficient reason for him to switch

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he's used to Netbeans and likes it

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 3:56 PM

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show code

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 3:57 PM

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And likely all these comments he's, getting will make it even less likely he'll ever switch
Annoying someone into changing isn't a good strategy

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 3:57 PM

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frail glade Happy Birthday!

Thank you!

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 3:57 PM

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HAPPY BORTH

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 3:57 PM

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THANK

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 3:58 PM

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lol

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right, I'm home now @hot hull

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gonna fix the JAR issues

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 3:59 PM

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question to anyone whos fucked around with cross server management, or managing sub servers in general, it should be done by the "parenting" server correct

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 3:59 PM

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are talking mc servers

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 3:59 PM

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ie.
Lobby
-> Arena 1
-> Arena 2

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Yes, we are in a mc discord after all

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 3:59 PM

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i think that's not an ideal way to do it

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i'm actually dealing with this right now, and all of my current management is happening in bungee

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lobby bad because what if you want more than one lobby

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same applies to bungee fyi, so you'd probably want an entirely separate management instance going separate from the MC servers

lunar cypress Mar 24, 2021, 4:01 PM

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looks pascal-ish

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:01 PM

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Ivan, elaboration is what I require

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 4:01 PM

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some dodgy language

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:01 PM

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what specifically do you want me to elaborate on 😮

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:01 PM

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Imagine coding in german lmao

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 4:01 PM

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FFS

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:02 PM

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I know it's not

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 4:02 PM

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fucking terminal console appender depends on a different version of Log4j 2

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:02 PM

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oblique heath what specifically do you want me to elaborate on 😮

How one would approach this all together, let me explain the end goal first

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:02 PM

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okay

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 4:02 PM

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and apparently you can get those issues with multiple Log4J versions on the classpath

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because apparently Gradle can't figure out that shading 2 different versions of the same dependency is a bad idea

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fml

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 4:06 PM

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Maybe pascal or Delphi

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:06 PM

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jovial warren because apparently Gradle can't figure out that shading 2 different versions of ...

guess you'll just have to manually unzip the jar and delete the dependency every time 🤷‍♂️

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 4:06 PM

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Possibly Ada

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An ancient procedural language

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 4:06 PM

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oblique heath guess you'll just have to manually unzip the jar and delete the dependency every...

you know exclude exists right?

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:06 PM

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(/s)

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:07 PM

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So let's say I've got multiple arena instances

- Arena 1,
- Arena 2,
- Arena 3

Their creation and management (resetting the world, clearing data etc), should be handled by a single parent server (or just a single input point in general),

Then there's lobby instances (one for an example)

- Lobby 1

The creation of it should also be managed by the parent, however the lobby itself should handle the joining of arenas, (if there's multiple lobbies, that might be a little scuffed so will probably be have to be done differently),

Now the question is, what/how one would have a single entry point for all this, and with what/through what should that entry point be handled.
(Since you said using a MC server for this isn't really ideal, what would be an appropriate thing for this)

lunar cypress Mar 24, 2021, 4:07 PM

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quick google search says ada

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:07 PM

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hot hull So let's say I've got multiple arena instances ``` - Arena 1, - Arena 2, - Arena...

well first i guess i want you to clarify

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Do correct me on anything stupid I said in there cursed_fingerguns

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:08 PM

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each arena is a separate server instance right

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not just a separate world on the same server

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Indeed

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:08 PM

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okay

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and you're using docker for this right

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Would be ideal since scaling wouldn't be an issue

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Not using anything yet, but that could be a possibility yes

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:09 PM

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if you're not using it yet you definitely should

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:09 PM

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||Lemmo is gonna love me if I use docker||

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:09 PM

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docker can make the whole 'creation and management' part really simple

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as far as writing code goes, at least

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or more specifically docker swarm / k8s will make that easy

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:10 PM

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I don't care if it's simple or hard, I just need something which is reliable, and optimal for such a use case

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:10 PM

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docker orchestration is optimal

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if you use k8s you can deploy the arenas across multiple physical machines with ease

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now you do have several choices when it comes to where you put the 'brains'

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 4:11 PM

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Yeah the extension suggests Ada

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:11 PM

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as you said one potential option is the lobby server

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i think that's silly because you can very easily decide to have more than one lobby down the line

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:11 PM

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However that becomes an issue if there's multiple lobbies

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:11 PM

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bingo

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the next obvious choice is to have the brain running in the bungee instance

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:12 PM

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But that also poses an issue if there's multiple machines no?

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:12 PM

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that's what i'm doing and it'll probably be good for as long as you're using one bungee

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why is that

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:12 PM

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Well as you said, multiple bungees

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:12 PM

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right yes once you have multiple bungees it might be a problem

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 4:13 PM

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2021-03-24 16:12:31,992 main DEBUG null null initializing configuration XmlConfiguration[location=jar:file:/C:/Users/callu/IdeaProjects/MineKraft/server/build/libs/Krypton-0.14.jar!/log4j2.xml] lol

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ffs

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:13 PM

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if you think you'll get to the point where you will have more than one bungee

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(wow)

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 4:13 PM

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why does Log4J just not like JAR files

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:13 PM

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Might as well make it as scalable as possible from the scratch no?

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:13 PM

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true

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in that case i'd say just make a completely independent jar

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and run it by itself, connected to all the backends and all the proxies

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that gives you the best scaleability because you still have room to shard that one jar in the future depending on how you design it

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:15 PM

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mhm

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:15 PM

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so yeah thats what you want to do as far as the structure goes

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oh having an independent server for just management is also nice because it's kind of like a microservice

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so that's an instant cool factor

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:16 PM

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probably also performance through the roof

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:17 PM

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yeah since there's no extra overhead on bungee or on spigot

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definitely a plus

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so at that point you just need to find a good way to have everything communicate

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:17 PM

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Bardy suggested RabbitMQ

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:17 PM

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i'm sure you can use redis for that, i personally use java sockets to some moderate success

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 4:18 PM

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right, fucking finally fixed the issue with the console

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:18 PM

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i've never heard of rabbitMQ but i'm sure it'd work too

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you have a lot of options

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 4:18 PM

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Log4J's Log4J2Plugins.dat file wasn't getting combined with TerminalConsoleAppender's

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:18 PM

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you can even make a REST api for the management server or something

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 4:19 PM

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but luckily, shadow has a transformer to deal with that

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:19 PM

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oblique heath you can even make a REST api for the management server or something

No clue how I'd even go about doing that kek

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:19 PM

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actually a rest api / communication method would probably be needed for every server, not just the management server

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so maybe something simpler is better

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:20 PM

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well I mean data would be sql, and communication would just be to inform the sub servers/parent of the state of things

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 4:20 PM

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anyone know if you can work on two separate branches at once in Git without committing changes?

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:20 PM

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Does that make sense?

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:20 PM

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yeah you'd keep all your data in an SQL db for sure

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but you want to be able to give your spigot / bungee servers instructions

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 4:21 PM

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jovial warren anyone know if you can work on two separate branches at once in Git without comm...

If you're editing a branch and change to another once you get back to the branch it'll still have the changes you made iirc

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:22 PM

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i will say you probably want to only connect to the SQL db through the management server

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or at least not through every single backend

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because that's a lot of connections

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 4:22 PM

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ocean quartz If you're editing a branch and change to another once you get back to the branch...

yeah ik

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looking into a solution where apparently, you can create a new work dir that caches the changes on a certain branch

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:23 PM

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Forwarding the info to the management server and then storing it would probably be ideal then

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:23 PM

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yeah, that's what i'm doing right now

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:23 PM

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Now to actually try and figure out how to do any of these things :kek:

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:23 PM

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xd good luck

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:24 PM

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I've got no experience when it comes to docker, so we'll see how it goes kek

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 4:24 PM

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if kubernetes turns out to be too intimidating you can try docker swarm

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both can do the basic orchestration stuff you need

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but k8s is more powerful, popular, and has more cloud support

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but also scarier

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 4:26 PM

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gonna do the hack of just creating two separate projects lol

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 4:26 PM

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oblique heath but also scarier

Only thing I'm scared of is human interaction, so I'll be fine fingerguns

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 4:40 PM

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fixed btw

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https://ci.kryptonmc.org/job/Krypton/ wait for this to finish and download that

tranquil crane Mar 24, 2021, 4:44 PM

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jovial warren anyone know if you can work on two separate branches at once in Git without comm...

You can use a git stash before you switch branches then pop it when you switch back I guess

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 4:44 PM

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yeah that works too

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 5:31 PM

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@oblique heath My head already be hurting from just reading on kubernetes :kek:

heady birch Mar 24, 2021, 5:43 PM

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how In maven

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nevermind

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u were too slow

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 5:44 PM

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you are sick in the head

heady birch Mar 24, 2021, 5:44 PM

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I pressed maven

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it is too late to change

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to gradle

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 5:45 PM

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untrue

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 5:45 PM

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gradle init: exists

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 5:45 PM

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Niall

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My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

heady birch Mar 24, 2021, 5:46 PM

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Not sure about you but i am not fond of 'compiler hacks'

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 5:47 PM

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kotlin and maven, next ull find out hes using eclipse

heady birch Mar 24, 2021, 5:47 PM

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nope

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intellij and the LATEST java

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some would say it is the latest available

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just as the tremendous James Gosling intended

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 5:47 PM

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Latest being 11 or 16?

heady birch Mar 24, 2021, 5:47 PM

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16

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 5:48 PM

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Good.

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 5:48 PM

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17 prerelease or nothing

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 5:48 PM

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smh BM

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 5:48 PM

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🥴

heady birch Mar 24, 2021, 5:48 PM

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Does JDK 17 exist

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17 being the seventeenth release

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 5:48 PM

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yes

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in early access

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only a SLOWPOKE would use 16

heady birch Mar 24, 2021, 5:49 PM

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src/main/java/Main.kt 😄

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 5:49 PM

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😩

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 5:52 PM

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oh god

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 5:52 PM

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are there any gains to targeting a higher jvm version on kotlin other than optimisations?

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 5:52 PM

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Not really

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Compatibility or optimisations

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 5:52 PM

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11 - best of both worlds 😄

heady birch Mar 24, 2021, 5:54 PM

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If I TARGET JVM 8 But compile with JDK 16 can I run on JRE 8?

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 5:54 PM

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Time for windows reset. See you on the other side

heady birch Mar 24, 2021, 5:56 PM

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Class 'kotlin.reflect.KClass' is compiled by a pre-release version of Kotlin and cannot be loaded by this version of the compiler

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 6:00 PM

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what would be proper package naming for the parent, and for the children

heady birch Mar 24, 2021, 6:01 PM

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?

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I can suggest:
+-- parent
+-- child

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 6:02 PM

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imma just go with source and receiver for now

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 6:04 PM

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heady birch If I TARGET JVM 8 But compile with JDK 16 can I run on JRE 8?

Yes

heady birch Mar 24, 2021, 6:04 PM

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"For every 1 java bug fixed. 3 Kotlin ones appear"

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 6:06 PM

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heady birch src/main/java/Main.kt 😄

is Main a good class name (not for plugins)

heady birch Mar 24, 2021, 6:07 PM

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some would say it is not

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I like to think of it as a good name

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one of the best

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and I know alot of java names

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 6:07 PM

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ok

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thx

heady birch Mar 24, 2021, 6:07 PM

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There is probably a better one lol

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What is the name of your program

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 6:08 PM

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idk

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just curious

heady birch Mar 24, 2021, 6:08 PM

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IdkBootstrap

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IdkApp

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something like that maybe

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 6:08 PM

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ok

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 6:13 PM

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@jovial warren I like how velocity handles initialization, (using an initialize event)

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ie.

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 6:15 PM

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yeah idk about that personally

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I don't really like it tbh

urban solar Mar 24, 2021, 6:19 PM

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bombardy can I get some support please

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 6:20 PM

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what with?

urban solar Mar 24, 2021, 6:20 PM

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#placeholder-api

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 6:20 PM

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just because you came in here to ask instead of being patient and waiting for someone to answer you in there, no

urban solar Mar 24, 2021, 6:21 PM

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I can't be patient, because people are waiting

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 6:22 PM

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well unfortunately for you, the staff here are volunteers, who dedicate their time off their own back to answer support queries

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 6:22 PM

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yeah nah

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 6:22 PM

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Bardy is not support
Even if people are support, they are volunteers
Wait patiently and don't randomly ask in other channels

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 6:22 PM

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also, it's PlaceholderAPI, you don't pay for it, so you aren't entitled to premium support

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 6:22 PM

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obtuse gale 1. Bardy is not support 2. Even if people are support, they are volunteers 3. Wa...

^

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https://paste.helpch.at/yiqoviyima.cpp can anyone think of how to convert this to Kotlin btw?

urban solar Mar 24, 2021, 6:23 PM

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.. forget it

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I'll download them manually

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 6:23 PM

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urban solar bombardy can I get some support please

https://wiki.bristermitten.me/Common-PAPI-Issues

Common PAPI Issues

This guide talks about Common PAPI Issues

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 6:23 PM

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since you can't have assignments in a while

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 6:23 PM

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whoops

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 6:23 PM

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good job.

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 6:23 PM

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?

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 6:24 PM

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jovial warren https://paste.helpch.at/yiqoviyima.cpp can anyone think of how to convert this t...

copy paste 🙂

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 6:24 PM

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actually, lemme give that a try for once

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 6:24 PM

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urban solar .. forget it

I mean we owe you nothing

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 6:24 PM

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let's see if IntelliJ's Java to Kotlin converter can actually be useful

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 6:24 PM

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jovial warren let's see if IntelliJ's Java to Kotlin converter can actually be useful

TimingHandler last; might mess it up a bit

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 6:24 PM

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Recursion

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your stack should be a persistent data structure which you copy with the elements popped

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🙂

urban solar Mar 24, 2021, 6:25 PM

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Please do not ping me, as I didn't ping anyone

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 6:25 PM

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half harness `TimingHandler last;` might mess it up a bit

it's not that

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 6:25 PM

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it was a reply-

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 6:25 PM

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urban solar Please do not ping me, as I didn't ping anyone

wow, pinging, such a big deal amirite guys

urban solar Mar 24, 2021, 6:25 PM

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Doesn't matter, it's still a ping

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 6:25 PM

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Did my link help you?

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 6:25 PM

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@jovial warren

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 6:25 PM

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what dkim

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lol

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 6:25 PM

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hi

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 6:25 PM

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hello

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 6:25 PM

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hows ur day going

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 6:25 PM

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not bad

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wbu

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 6:26 PM

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good

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i just took a test

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and didn't even know

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 6:26 PM

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#off-topic lol

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 6:26 PM

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there was going to be a test

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ok

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lol

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Another one!!!

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Last minute gang

frail glade Mar 24, 2021, 6:46 PM

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Says late

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 6:48 PM

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I'm gonna start sending this to people who have closed source plugins

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forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 6:49 PM

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hot hull I'm gonna start sending this to people who have closed source plugins

good thing i just open sourced my project today

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 6:50 PM

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Good thing you did

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 7:22 PM

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yoooo kotlin karens so does kotlin have some sort of static inheritance or whatever idk companion inheritance maybe

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just like the concept that'd be

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 7:22 PM

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Companions can inherit

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But there's no forced inheritance

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 7:24 PM

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Something I thought was kinda weird at first but it's pretty cool

class MainClass {
  companion object : AnotherInterface
}

Where the companion is an implementation but the "parent" class isn't

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:27 PM

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why is the code for aikar's timings so whack

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 7:27 PM

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how do timings even work?!

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:28 PM

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some whacky unpublished code

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that uses a lot of static abuse

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 7:28 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/eGvA5cy.png I've never had so many elses before 🤢

Imgur

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:28 PM

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and when I say a lot I mean a fucking shit ton

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 7:28 PM

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bruh

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:28 PM

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lemme show you

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 7:29 PM

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dkim deliberately codes horrible code?

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:29 PM

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https://github.com/SpongePowered/Sponge/tree/api-8/src/main/java/org/spongepowered/common/relocate/co/aikar/timings

GitHub

SpongePowered/Sponge

The SpongeAPI implementation targeting vanilla Minecraft and 3rd party platforms. - SpongePowered/Sponge

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 7:29 PM

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steel heart dkim deliberately codes horrible code?

theres no workaround

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:29 PM

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just feast your eyes upon that

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every class is just filled with static abuse

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 7:29 PM

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theres always a workaround

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 7:29 PM

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half harness theres no workaround

Wdym? There is no workaround that you know about
Send the entire code

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:29 PM

#

I know the workaround I want to choose

#

figure out how the timings works by myself and write the entire code from scratch

#

not using aikar's existing code

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 7:30 PM

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ocean quartz Wdym? There is no workaround that you know about Send the entire code

uh

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 7:30 PM

#

half harness theres no workaround

I might be a meanie now but you sound like the n3w0rk guy now

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 7:30 PM

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i dont want to get bullied :c

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 7:30 PM

#

steel heart I might be a meanie now but you sound like the n3w0rk guy now

what

#

what am i doing

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 7:30 PM

#

when do we ever bully you 🤔

#

bullying is mean!

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 7:30 PM

#

half harness i dont want to get bullied :c

We'll bully even more if you don't send

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 7:30 PM

#

how

#

what will you bully me about

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 7:31 PM

#

About those horrible elses you have there

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 7:31 PM

#

u know that project that u privated after i looked at it 👀

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 7:31 PM

#

https://paste.helpch.at/pefokapaka.bash

#

oh wait

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:32 PM

#

actually, maybe copying aikar's code is just the way it's meant to be

#

screw it

#

static abuse it is

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 7:33 PM

#

lol

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 7:33 PM

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Oi Dkim, never do this lol

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 7:33 PM

#

whats wrong with it?

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 7:33 PM

#

method(
  param1,
  param2
)

Never

method(param1,
  param2)

#

Wtf

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 7:34 PM

#

oh

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 7:34 PM

#

lol dkim chose the latter?

#

Big_Brain

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 7:34 PM

#

but

#

ok

#

i wont question

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 7:34 PM

#

no its fine

#

just

lunar cypress Mar 24, 2021, 7:34 PM

#

this is ok imo

#

it just gets confusing with nested method calls

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 7:34 PM

#

I guess it's just somewhat counter intuitive for me

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 7:34 PM

#

It's very confusing though, makes it look like the code has bad indentation

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:34 PM

#

now, who to copy from 🤔

lunar cypress Mar 24, 2021, 7:34 PM

#

I disagree

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:35 PM

#

Sponge or Nukkit

#

or Paper

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 7:35 PM

#

paper

lunar cypress Mar 24, 2021, 7:35 PM

#

nukkit is a cesspool from what I've seen

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:35 PM

#

I'm trying to implement aikar's timings btw Johnny

#

just as context

#

but the code for it isn't published anywhere

#

and it's horrid

#

and yes, Nukkit already looks like a cesspit

#

I think the API and server are combined into one

#

anyway, copy from Sponge or Paper then

#

screw it, copying from Paper

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 7:37 PM

#

frail glade Says late

yes, but it closes right after that time

frail glade Mar 24, 2021, 7:37 PM

#

Still says late.

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:37 PM

#

though Paper loves exposing literally all of the backend for timings

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 7:37 PM

#

Yea ofc xD

#

Last minute

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 7:38 PM

#

ok but yugi have u ever been 4 days late

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 7:38 PM

#

I get marks as long as I make the submission

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 7:38 PM

#

onyx loom ok but yugi have u ever been 4 days late

🥲

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 7:38 PM

#

@ me rn

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 7:38 PM

#

#

@onyx loom There we go

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 7:39 PM

#

🥲

#

5 months late lmao

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 7:39 PM

#

FUCK i forgot to go to my conference i was supposed to have with the teacher

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 7:39 PM

#

lmao

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 7:39 PM

#

my grade report has it as 'missing' now

#

FUCK

#

FUCK

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 7:39 PM

#

onyx loom 5 months late lmao

Yea that semester is over

#

so.. yea

#

xD

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 7:39 PM

#

FUCKKKK

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 7:40 PM

#

F

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 7:40 PM

#

L

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 7:40 PM

#

I got an 89 ON MY ESSAY

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 7:40 PM

#

someones definitely getting muted

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 7:40 PM

#

shoot

#

yea

#

thx for the reminder

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 7:40 PM

#

🤣

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 7:40 PM

#

🙂

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 7:40 PM

#

I gotta make a game and submti for review in less than 48 hours

#

🙂

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 7:41 PM

#

forest pecan I got an 89 ON MY ESSAY

out of how much?

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 7:41 PM

#

100 prob

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 7:41 PM

#

Oh isnt that good?

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:41 PM

#

actually, no

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 7:41 PM

#

lol

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:41 PM

#

I'm better than Paper and Sponge

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 7:41 PM

#

Wha?

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 7:41 PM

#

thonking

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 7:41 PM

#

well

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:41 PM

#

lol ik that sounds a bit random

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 7:41 PM

#

my la grade is a 96

#

now

#

🥲

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 7:42 PM

#

Ah

#

welp

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:42 PM

#

I'm trying to implement aikar's timings into Krypton Yugi

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 7:42 PM

#

gl

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:42 PM

#

but it's a fucking mess

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 7:42 PM

#

gl bard

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:42 PM

#

like literally a mess on top of a mess on top of a mess

#

is that a "I've seen that shit and ik what it's like" or a "I've done that shit and ik what it's like" gl

#

I'm gonna search through the PHP code and stuff to see if I can find what and how it works

#

then try and implement it for myself

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 7:45 PM

#

um what? xD

#

Its just a casual good luck

#

Dont overthink it bruh lol

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 7:45 PM

#

lol

#

looks like it's all JSON

#

this should be easy

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

Warnings I hate in Intellij:

Unused warning - hate it for making libraries/apis
Inverting warning - hate it cause you may want to use it sometime later

...

#

what else

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

just suppress it

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

Unused return value

#

Dkim no

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

No

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

y

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

You can turn them off

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

lmao

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

but they're useful

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

Then don't suppress them

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

maybe not the inverted one

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

i dont wanna see that in a library

#

like gson

#

lmfao

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

lol

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

they use @PublicApi

#

i think

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

forest pecan i dont wanna see that in a library

The user won't see it though

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

yea true

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

It's for you that are building it

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 8:08 PM

#

dkim i think your brain cells decreased by 1

#

dkim is at 2 braincells now

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 8:08 PM

#

mill

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 8:08 PM

#

man you were smart for once

#

yesterday

#

telling bardy something useful

#

but now

#

it decreased

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 8:08 PM

#

lol

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 8:09 PM

#

Dkim in the inside: 🥲

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:11 PM

#

hot hull <@!344545054737694720> My head already be hurting from just reading on kubernete...

🥲

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 8:12 PM

#

forest pecan Dkim in the inside: 🥲

me in the inside: 😭

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:34 PM

#

https://github.com/SpongePowered/Sponge/tree/api-8/src/main/java/org/spongepowered/common/relocate/co/aikar/timings can anyone give me a hand on the best way to avoid static abuse implementing something like this?

GitHub

SpongePowered/Sponge

The SpongeAPI implementation targeting vanilla Minecraft and 3rd party platforms. - SpongePowered/Sponge

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 8:35 PM

#

Ask Masked, and do the opposite of what he says

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:35 PM

#

who?

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 8:36 PM

#

Search Masked in #development

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 8:36 PM

#

TimingsPls lmao

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 8:36 PM

#

Lol

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:36 PM

#

lol

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:36 PM

#

ocean quartz `TimingsPls` lmao

that was probably kashike's doing

#

let me show you the static abuse I want to avoid

#

https://github.com/SpongePowered/SpongeAPI/blob/api-8/src/main/java/co/aikar/timings/Timings.java
https://github.com/SpongePowered/Sponge/blob/api-8/src/main/java/org/spongepowered/common/relocate/co/aikar/timings/TimingsManager.java

#

also, Sponge uses an IAbstractSpongeTimingsFactoryBean here

#

and I don't want factories in Krypton

#

or statics

dawn hinge Mar 24, 2021, 8:41 PM

#

FactoryBean?

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:41 PM

#

yeah I'm taking the piss

#

point is: factories in Kotlin big ew

#

I wanna do all of this with DI and proper instances

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 8:42 PM

#

[5:41 PM] BomBardyGamer: point is: blah blah Kotlin big ew

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:42 PM

#

-_-

#

https://i.imgur.com/GIFrFpV.png do not twist my words

Imgur

#

https://tenor.com/view/biatch-bitch-upset-annoyed-mad-gif-13479436

Tenor

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 8:44 PM

#

lol

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:44 PM

#

trying to think of how I want to actually do the DI though

#

since this is so riddled with static abuse

#

actually, the sponge one doesn't seem to be

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 8:45 PM

#

a little static abuse wont hurt 🙂

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:45 PM

#

https://tenor.com/WL0W.gif

Tenor

#

I will NOT let Krypton travel down the same path as Bukkit

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 8:45 PM

#

dawn hinge Factory*Bean*?

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:46 PM

#

🤣

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 8:46 PM

#

heinz beans

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 8:46 PM

#

Heinz Beinz

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 8:46 PM

#

is heinz not just uK?

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 8:46 PM

#

Lol no

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 8:46 PM

#

o interesting

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:46 PM

#

why have I only just noticed that Heinz think they're cool by spelling "Beans" "Beanz"?

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 8:47 PM

#

Nice ketchup brand

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 8:47 PM

#

ive always thought heinz was uk for no reason whatsoever

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:47 PM

#

same

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 8:47 PM

#

seen it here too, was pretty shocked lol

dawn hinge Mar 24, 2021, 8:47 PM

#

ocean quartz

Really...

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 8:47 PM

#

It's a bean factory!

dawn hinge Mar 24, 2021, 8:48 PM

#

angry_fingerguns

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:48 PM

#

man

#

this is such a pain

dawn hinge Mar 24, 2021, 8:48 PM

#

Just do it Bardy

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:49 PM

#

it means you are stupid in Spanish xD

#

nah I'm kidding, it means today at

#

or, today to the

#

bien, gracias

#

y tu?

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 8:49 PM

#

lmao

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:49 PM

#

fuck you too https://tenor.com/view/biatch-bitch-upset-annoyed-mad-gif-13479436

Tenor

#

yes

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 8:50 PM

#

puta is more like whore but yeah

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:50 PM

#

yeah

#

anyway, can someone help pls

#

I need to make this less staticy

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 8:52 PM

#

I mean that does make sense (except for the question mark lol)

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 8:52 PM

#

Mama, just killed a man

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 8:53 PM

#

ispkspis

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:53 PM

#

at this point, I might just say fuck timings and just not support it

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 8:53 PM

#

Isn't Spark better?

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 8:53 PM

#

spark tho

#

yea

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:54 PM

#

if aikar and his cronies wanna keep it all secretly between them then screw them too

#

yeah I'll use spark I guess

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 8:54 PM

#

Lichthund

#

Ye

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:55 PM

#

wait how do you know that

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 8:56 PM

#

please educate me
who is mini
and why does this matter

#

for hypixel i assume?

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 8:57 PM

#

No idea who those are

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 8:57 PM

#

yup

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:57 PM

#

oh btw, it's probably worth adding events to the ticking right?

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 8:58 PM

#

these people need to get a job

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 8:58 PM

#

Like tick start and tick end?

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:58 PM

#

yeah

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 8:58 PM

#

/s before anyone tries any funny business

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 8:58 PM

#

jovial warren yeah

If I ever used it I would like it lol

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:31 PM

#

well then

#

your wish is my command

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 9:32 PM

#

There wouldn't be any harm in doing it right?

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:32 PM

#

nah

#

it's just as simple as calling an event

#

just like always

#

still gotta fix watchdog just randomly making the server go bye byes for no reason

#

it says the last tick time exceeded 60 seconds, but that's literally impossible

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 9:34 PM

#

lol

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:39 PM

#

while (true) {
    lastTickTime = System.currentTimeMillis()
    val tickTime = measureTimeMillis(::tick)
    if (tickTime > 2000L && lastTickTime - lastOverloadWarning >= 15000L) {
        LOGGER.warn("Woah there! Can't keep up! Running ${tickTime}ms (${tickTime / 50} ticks) behind!")
        lastTickTime += tickTime
        lastOverloadWarning = lastTickTime
    }
    lastTickTime += 50L
    eventBus.call(TickEndEvent(tickCount, tickTime, System.nanoTime()))

    if (tickTime < TICK_INTERVAL) delay(TICK_INTERVAL - tickTime)
}
```nothing wrong with that btw is there?

#

the watchdog process watches lastTickTime

#

actually wait a minute

#

while (true) {
    val tickTime = System.currentTimeMillis() - server.lastTickTime
    if (tickTime > tickThreshold) {
        WatchdogProcess.LOGGER.fatal("A single server tick took ${"%.2f".format(Locale.ROOT, tickTime / 1000.0f)} seconds (threshold: $tickThreshold)!")
        WatchdogProcess.LOGGER.fatal("Considering it crashed, shutting down...")
        exitProcess(1)
    }
}
```that's the watchdog code

#

that could get out of sync couldn't it?

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 9:41 PM

#

Is that in a different thread?

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:41 PM

#

could you please use a boolean instead of true

#

lol

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:41 PM

#

sweet cipher Is that in a different thread?

yeah

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:42 PM

#

forest pecan could you please use a boolean instead of true

wdym?

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:42 PM

#

while (running)

#

or smthing

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:42 PM

#

guess I could

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 9:42 PM

#

while(thisBooleanIsTrueBecausePulseWantedMeToUseIt)

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:42 PM

#

but that'll stop anyway

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:42 PM

#

Better control

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:43 PM

#

then I can just set that to false when the shutdown hook gets ran

#

ez

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:43 PM

#

yea

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 9:43 PM

#

Just wondering but how come its in a separate thread?

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:43 PM

#

Exactly

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:43 PM

#

sweet cipher Just wondering but how come its in a separate thread?

because that's what watchdog is for

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:43 PM

#

lol

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 9:43 PM

#

oh

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:43 PM

#

that's not the ticking mechanism

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:43 PM

#

watchdog is not an anticheat it just checks the server's state

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:43 PM

#

watchdog makes sure the server hasn't crashed

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 9:43 PM

#

forest pecan watchdog is not an anticheat it just checks the server's state

I know that

#

Oh wait I'm dumb

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:44 PM

#

if it was on the main thread..

#

lmao

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 9:44 PM

#

Yeah I just realized

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:44 PM

#

if the main thread stops

#

watch dog stops

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 9:44 PM

#

It wouldn't do anything

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:44 PM

#

:kekw:

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 9:44 PM

#

lol

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:45 PM

#

yeah if it was on the main thread it would be useless lol

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:45 PM

#

im not a big fan of exitProcess

#

or that

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 9:45 PM

#

I wish Kotlin had

for {
}
// or
while {
}

Rust has the for one

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:45 PM

#

cause that is not the life cycle of a thread

#

a proper one at least

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:45 PM

#

ocean quartz I wish Kotlin had ```kt for { } // or while { } ``` Rust has the for one

wdym?

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:46 PM

#

like elara

#

lol

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 9:46 PM

#

instead of while true

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:46 PM

#

I use exitProcess btw because I have a runtime hook

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:46 PM

#

Ic

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 9:46 PM

#

Yeah instead of while true

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 9:46 PM

#

for {
  let blah = blah();
  if !blah {
    break;
  }
}```

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:46 PM

#

i just prefer while(boolean) because it is the proper way to exit a thread

#

threads of life cycles and end cycles

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:46 PM

#

Runtime.getRuntime().addShutdownHook(Thread({
    KryptonServer.LOGGER.info("Stopping Krypton...")
    isRunning = false
    KryptonServer.LOGGER.debug("Shutting down scheduler...")
    scheduler.shutdown()
    KryptonServer.LOGGER.info("Shutting down plugins...")
    pluginManager.shutdown()
    KryptonServer.LOGGER.info("Goodbye")
}, "Shutdown Handler"))

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:46 PM

#

and that stuff

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:46 PM

#

that shutdown handler is why I use exitProcess

#

because it avoids me repeating code

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 9:47 PM

#

for {
  blah := blah()
  if blah {
    break
  }
}```

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:47 PM

#

since exiting the JVM will run the hooks anyway

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:48 PM

#

you could make a listener for the boolean

#

but prolly nah

#

cause that adds extra resources

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 9:51 PM

#

How does SRV work?

#

(simply)

#

and would Krypton support it?

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:52 PM

#

whats SRV again

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 9:52 PM

#

dns

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:52 PM

#

its a dns?

#

wot

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 9:52 PM

#

@jovial warren can I run WorldEdit on Krypton?

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 9:52 PM

#

dns record type

#

thingy

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:52 PM

#

oh

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:52 PM

#

obtuse gale <@266294134116057089> can I run WorldEdit on Krypton?

soon™️

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 9:52 PM

#

Hehe

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:52 PM

#

but isnt that bukkit or spigot?

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:52 PM

#

when Krypton has the tools for me to make an implementation for it, I will do so

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:52 PM

#

how can you run it together lol

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 9:53 PM

#

FAWE on krypton? 🤨

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:53 PM

#

https://github.com/EngineHub/WorldEdit

#

WE is multiplatform silly

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:53 PM

#

onyx loom FAWE on krypton? 🤨

that too

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:53 PM

#

onyx loom FAWE on krypton? 🤨

🥲

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 9:53 PM

#

half harness and would Krypton support it?

buuuuuuuuuuump

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:53 PM

#

stfu

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 9:53 PM

#

😦

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:53 PM

#

/s

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 9:53 PM

#

prisma wave ```go for { blah := blah() if blah { break } }```

Closest you can get :kekw:

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:53 PM

#

half harness and would Krypton support it?

yes

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:54 PM

#

ocean quartz Closest you can get :kekw:

is that a function just for a loop?

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:54 PM

#

actually wait

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:54 PM

#

😖

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:54 PM

#

okay I think I'm an idiot

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 9:54 PM

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forest pecan is that a function just for a loop?

Yes

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:54 PM

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val address = buf.readString(255).toInetAddress() because that'll definitely work for most situations

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:54 PM

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🥲

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:55 PM

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totally

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also, https://i.imgur.com/YghcDy3.png

Imgur

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soon™️

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 9:58 PM

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🌚

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 9:59 PM

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I'm not going to support aikar's timings until aikar gets his shit together and gives me at least something to go off of

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 10:07 PM

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ocean quartz Closest you can get :kekw:

kinda cute

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inline tho

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 10:11 PM

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Yeah

eternal compass Mar 24, 2021, 10:19 PM

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https://classic.minecraft.net/?join=3VManZOQJwPne-Po

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join :p

pale shell Mar 24, 2021, 10:26 PM

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it doesn't load @eternal compass

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:27 PM

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forest pecan Warnings I hate in Intellij: Unused warning - hate it for making libraries/apis...

Let me introduce you to Go.... where this is straight up a compilation error 🙂

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 10:30 PM

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I dont get what the difference is between compile and transpile, compile is when u make human readable code into machine code and transpile is just human readable code to human readable code or what?

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 10:30 PM

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i guess so

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:31 PM

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Transpiling means you are "compiling"/"converting" something written in one language to another non-machine language

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 10:31 PM

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converting is probably the better word yeah

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 10:31 PM

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hmm

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btw bms bday today?

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:32 PM

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Yesterday

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 10:32 PM

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yes what a special occasion

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 10:32 PM

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fuck

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 10:32 PM

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in uk its still his bday 😊

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:32 PM

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Ah

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 10:32 PM

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10pm rn

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:32 PM

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Ah

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2 more hours

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 10:32 PM

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@prisma wave congrats afterwards :] Pickaxe

eternal compass Mar 24, 2021, 10:32 PM

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pale shell it doesn't load <@!547890787682222081>

dang, its glitchy

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 10:33 PM

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yes congrats on staying alive bm (for 17 years now?)

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 10:33 PM

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onyx loom 10pm rn

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:33 PM

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fred that aint even opening

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 10:33 PM

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for me its 6

pale shell Mar 24, 2021, 10:33 PM

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i made bm a gift but he no reply i scared

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 10:33 PM

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pain.

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 10:33 PM

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was it monads?

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:33 PM

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Do be monads

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 10:33 PM

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now thats one hell of a gift

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:33 PM

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yup

pale shell Mar 24, 2021, 10:34 PM

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I painted him a QR code. 😦

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 10:34 PM

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eternal compass https://classic.minecraft.net/?join=3VManZOQJwPne-Po

https://classic.minecraft.net/?join=Pw0fY0SGs5PGAK7R
join :p

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 10:34 PM

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intriguing

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@half harness no work

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bad

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 10:35 PM

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wdym

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im in it tho

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 10:35 PM

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okay and eat pizza

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:36 PM

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Let me introduce to you the "Mitten" monad
It holds values such as "Brister", "bitter", "Elara", "insert party cap emote, cant find it" and more as such. It is usually represented with the value appended with the "Mitten" word

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 10:36 PM

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🥲

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 10:36 PM

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how do i read console again?

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i forgot

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like console output

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 10:36 PM

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scanner of system in

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then call nextline or smtng

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 10:37 PM

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not user input

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:37 PM

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Console.ReadLine

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 10:37 PM

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oh

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:37 PM

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a <- getLine

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getLine >>=

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 10:37 PM

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old wyvern a <- getLine

?

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:37 PM

#

cin

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 10:37 PM

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that is infact java.

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:37 PM

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half harness ?

Haskell 🙂

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 10:37 PM

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System.console().readLine() then mb

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idk

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:38 PM

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Wait was that a serious question?

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 10:38 PM

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yeah dkim questions

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 10:38 PM

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...

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 10:38 PM

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old wyvern Wait was that a serious question?

yes

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?

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:38 PM

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You want to read user input?

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 10:38 PM

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no

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:38 PM

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Or read the output stream?

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 10:38 PM

#

half harness not user input

.

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 10:38 PM

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old wyvern Or read the output stream?

uhh i guess so

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actually

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nvm ive found a better way

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:39 PM

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Alright

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 10:39 PM

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I mean you could add like a log listener

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or whatever its called

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 10:39 PM

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....

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 10:40 PM

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old wyvern Let me introduce you to Go.... where this is straight up a compilation error 🙂

🥲

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 10:41 PM

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y'all ever had to use Alice?

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it's JVM scratch

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and i wanna die

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 10:44 PM

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cinder flare y'all ever had to use Alice?

Sadly

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:44 PM

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half harness ....

Did your solution work?

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 10:44 PM

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And Rebecca or something like that

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 10:44 PM

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old wyvern Did your solution work?

didn't test

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 10:44 PM

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obtuse gale And Rebecca or something like that

never heard of it lmao

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 10:44 PM

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Aight. To confirm, do you want to read from the logger or the actual output stream?

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 10:44 PM

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It's like the same crap

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 10:44 PM

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wanna see my project for this shitty online class

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 10:44 PM

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Literally

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 10:44 PM

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https://lumos.csis.suu.edu/~barkern/CSIS_1000/Intro_to_Computer_Programming.pdf

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 10:45 PM

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Oh my fucking God

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 10:45 PM

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yup

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 10:45 PM

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It has images...

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 10:45 PM

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im over here making full plugins in kotlin and I have to do this shit 🙃

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at least let me use blender lmao

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oh and also the Alice download servers apparently suck because it's going to take 41 minutes to download 1.5GB

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 10:47 PM

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I mean fair enough that really is an intro to programming (mainly the whole flow & logic things), but for dummies lmao

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 10:47 PM

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yeah and I'm in my second semester as a CS Major lol

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 10:47 PM

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Oh what...

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 10:47 PM

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in my other class, I'm talking about QuickSort lmao

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wanna help me with my homework?

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 10:47 PM

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Yee

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Busy tho

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 10:47 PM

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lol

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 10:48 PM

#

8.4 When all keys are equal, what is the running time of
a. Insertion sort
b. Shellsort
c. Mergesort
d. Quicksort

8.5 When the input has been sorted, what is the running time of
a. Insertion sort
b. Shellsort
c. Mergesort
d. Quicksort

8.6 When the input has been sorted in reverse order, what is the running
time of
a. Insertion sort
b. Shellsort
c. Mergesort
d. Quicksort```

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 10:50 PM

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Just put

#

5 seconds

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Boom you're done lmao

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 10:51 PM

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It's in Big Oh notation lmao

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 10:55 PM

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yea its testing you the worst/average/best complexities

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they should've asked you that directy lol

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would've been much easier

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 10:56 PM

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nothing in life is easy lol

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but yeah very true

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 10:57 PM

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ok basically I hjave to make something that when a user clicks on a button it lets them input the dimensions of the shape on the button they pressed
but i want it to be fairly easy for me to add shapes in future
whats the best way to do this? (Windows forms app with VB)

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Radix tho 🤤

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 11:03 PM

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there is a sort thats faster than quicksort in all scenarios

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its called quadsort

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 11:05 PM

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obtuse gale Radix tho 🤤

lol is that the counting sort?

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or is counting sort different

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Oh wait they are different

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counting sort is radix sort but using whole value

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omg

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all my builds passed

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😍

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 11:15 PM

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all my homies like merge sort

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also constructing worst case scenarios for sorting is kinda fun lol

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but I guess yeah the worst case would be 1 2 3 50000 6 3 49999

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 11:17 PM

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bogo sort

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ftw

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 11:17 PM

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awee i like stalin sort

steel heart Mar 24, 2021, 11:18 PM

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lol

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thats a thing?

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 11:18 PM

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https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/add-elements-in-start-to-sort-the-array-variation-of-stalin-sort/#:~:text=Stalin sort (also%20'dictator%20sort,simply%20eliminated%20from%20the%20list.&text=The%20process%20is%20then%20repeated%20until%20the%20list%20is%20sorted.

GeeksforGeeks

Add elements in start to sort the array | Variation of Stalin Sort ...

A Computer Science portal for geeks. It contains well written, well thought and well explained computer science and programming articles, quizzes and practice/competitive programming/company interview Questions.

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yep

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also know as trump sort

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lol

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 11:21 PM

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ayyy

#

trump sort is if you're not sorted, you get fired lol

#

https://i.imgur.com/5HXgYvz.png

Imgur

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fuck

oak coyote Mar 24, 2021, 11:37 PM

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@cinder flare got caught using block coding #lacking

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 11:38 PM

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https://lumos.csis.suu.edu/~barkern/CSIS_1000/Intro_to_Computer_Programming.pdf 😠

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 11:38 PM

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oak coyote <@186255788212355073> got caught using block coding #lacking

haskell too hard, Im reverting to the basics haha

ocean quartz Mar 25, 2021, 12:13 AM

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@old wyvern Did you make the todo? ;p

half harness Mar 25, 2021, 12:17 AM

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how do i fix this?

#

and no, there is no configure button

ocean quartz Mar 25, 2021, 12:18 AM

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Add it to Gradle?

half harness Mar 25, 2021, 12:20 AM

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i already did

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nvm

#

it just disappeared

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okay now its just broken

#

intellij hates me 😦

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 12:20 AM

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invalidate caches and restart ij

half harness Mar 25, 2021, 12:20 AM

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nooo

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maybe

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 12:20 AM

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lol

old wyvern Mar 25, 2021, 12:36 AM

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ocean quartz <@!235475470806679554> Did you make the todo? ;p

Will do in a bit, gotta finish a game for project review for tmr

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💀

ocean quartz Mar 25, 2021, 12:36 AM

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Oh take your time, was just wondering ;p

old wyvern Mar 25, 2021, 12:37 AM

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Alrighty

#

switch (mark)
{
    case int n when n >= 80:
        Console.WriteLine("Grade is A");
        break;

    case int n when n >= 60:
        Console.WriteLine("Grade is B");
        break;

    case int n when n >= 40:
        Console.WriteLine("Grade is C");
        break;

    default:
        Console.WriteLine("Grade is D");
        break;
}
```😮

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 12:47 AM

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is uh.. is that declaring a new int for every case line?

old wyvern Mar 25, 2021, 12:47 AM

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No

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That exists only in the scope of the case I think

#

Just stumbled on this randomly

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 12:48 AM

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so does it reassign the value of mark* to int n?

#

im so confused

old wyvern Mar 25, 2021, 12:48 AM

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No no

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Its like inside that case, mark is called n

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 12:48 AM

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why lol

old wyvern Mar 25, 2021, 12:48 AM

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I assume theres also some form of type matching?

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Maybe like you could switch a base class and handle cases of diff child classes

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 12:49 AM

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ah I see

#

I prefer Kotlin's when, but that's kinda cute

old wyvern Mar 25, 2021, 12:49 AM

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Might wanna confirm that

old wyvern Mar 25, 2021, 12:49 AM

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cinder flare I prefer Kotlin's when, but that's kinda cute

Yea same, but kinda nice ig

sweet cipher Mar 25, 2021, 12:53 AM

#

Has anyone here ever used JavaFX with fxml files with ImageViews?

old wyvern Mar 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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Nope, but might be better if you mentioned the problem itself

sweet cipher Mar 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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Alright

half harness Mar 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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imagine not using scenebuilder

forest pecan Mar 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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i use javafx for my malware

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lol

sweet cipher Mar 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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So, my images won't load, there is no errors or anything, I'll put the code in a paste one sec

old wyvern Mar 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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I have used TornadoFX, just not JavaFX directly

sweet cipher Mar 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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=paste

compact perchBOT Mar 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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HelpChat Paste

Please use a paste service to share configs, errors, code and long logs.
• HelpChat Paste

forest pecan Mar 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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i used javafx for my jumpscares

old wyvern Mar 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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lmao

forest pecan Mar 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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they cant alt f4 out

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lol

old wyvern Mar 25, 2021, 12:56 AM

#

Have you played Scary Maze?

forest pecan Mar 25, 2021, 12:56 AM

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nope

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whats that

old wyvern Mar 25, 2021, 12:56 AM

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Its basically a troll game

forest pecan Mar 25, 2021, 12:56 AM

#

oh

#

ik

#

if you touch the walls, you get jumpscared?

sweet cipher Mar 25, 2021, 12:56 AM

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https://paste.helpch.at/uyababuvuz.xml

old wyvern Mar 25, 2021, 12:56 AM

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When you pass level 3, it shows a jumpscare and starts screaming

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Yea

forest pecan Mar 25, 2021, 12:56 AM

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lmao

old wyvern Mar 25, 2021, 12:56 AM

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I remember doing that on facebook

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God I ran

#

xD

sweet cipher Mar 25, 2021, 12:57 AM

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The images just won't show up

old wyvern Mar 25, 2021, 1:02 AM

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The path is probably incorrect

steel heart Mar 25, 2021, 1:03 AM

#

yugi

#

about slimjar

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wat u need

#

im rdy to pr

old wyvern Mar 25, 2021, 1:04 AM

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Setting up the downloader first

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Ill let you guys know once I setup a proper roadmap

steel heart Mar 25, 2021, 1:04 AM

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okay 😄

sweet cipher Mar 25, 2021, 1:05 AM

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old wyvern The path is probably incorrect

Its the path that it did automatically when I dragged in the image

sweet cipher Mar 25, 2021, 1:59 AM

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I fixed it

clear junco Mar 25, 2021, 3:54 AM

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yo guys i am new to this minecraft deving

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if someone could help from where i could get sources like yt

obtuse gale Mar 25, 2021, 5:14 AM

#

Useful resources:

Java API: https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/11/docs/api/
Basic Java Tutorials: https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/
Online Java Course: https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java/
Object-Oriented programming in Java: https://java-programming.mooc.fi/
Interactive tutorials through projects: https://hi.hyperskill.org/
____________________________________________

Start with this -
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/concepts/index.html
Breeze through this skipping stuff that doesn't seem relevant like bitwise operators-
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/nutsandbolts/index.html
and then hit this
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/javaOO/index.html

They're the first three from this larger thing - https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html
Which you should definitely go through overall. But those three should be enough for slightly better understanding of wtf is happening here without feeling like a huge time sink
That one is a small part of this larger site - https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/index.html
wherein "Essential Java Classes" and "Collections" also have good useful stuff
____________________________________________

For plugins: https://bukkit.gamepedia.com/Plugin_Tutorial

A few challenges you can try and solve: https://github.com/PiggyPiglet/Challenges

Things you want to take a look at when making plugins: https://bukkit.gamepedia.com/Plugin_Tutorial#onEnable.28.29_and_onDisable.28.29
https://bukkit.gamepedia.com/Plugin_Tutorial#Commands
https://bukkit.gamepedia.com/Event_API_Reference

hot hull Mar 25, 2021, 5:23 AM

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@ocean quartz where triumph chat

obtuse gale Mar 25, 2021, 5:23 AM

#

@clear junco there you go ^^ plugin making isn't a fun ride at the park, you have to know how to program (as the official Bukkit page says, it is a necessity), it will take a lot of time to learn if you are not familiar with the concept, way, way more than "just a few weeks", you will go to hell and back in the process especially since Bukkit has its own twists... I know you are all "but I want to make plugins, not 'just learn java'" and in reality it's "but I don't want to read this boring article that takes me 3 minutes to read and 15 to comprehend, I want to spend a whole frustrating week trying to do something without knowing how to"

But after all that's what we are here for, to help you out of this endless hell loop (also #development for dev support)

ocean quartz Mar 25, 2021, 5:23 AM

#

hot hull <@180369172046413824> where triumph chat

Sleeping

hot hull Mar 25, 2021, 5:23 AM

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'tis 6:23 am, time to wake up

ocean quartz Mar 25, 2021, 5:24 AM

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Tis 5:24am time to go sleep

clear junco Mar 25, 2021, 5:24 AM

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@obtuse gale yes sir

hot hull Mar 25, 2021, 5:24 AM

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Yikes

obtuse gale Mar 25, 2021, 5:24 AM

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orange boys

hot hull Mar 25, 2021, 5:27 AM

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If either amazon or microsoft buy discord and I see one fucking ad I'm nuking something

obtuse gale Mar 25, 2021, 5:29 AM

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My house

ocean quartz Mar 25, 2021, 5:30 AM

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Can i visit your house when that happens?

hot hull Mar 25, 2021, 6:26 AM

#

ocean quartz Can i visit your house when that happens?

I'll be there as well, we're gonna have some coffee

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How ew would something like this be

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 6:48 AM

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very pretty actually

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and a very logical way of ordering servers

#

what format is that?

hot hull Mar 25, 2021, 6:48 AM

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hocon

#

https://github.com/lightbend/config#examples-of-hocon

GitHub

lightbend/config

configuration library for JVM languages using HOCON files - lightbend/config

#

very smexy

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 6:49 AM

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do you prefer it over YAML?

hot hull Mar 25, 2021, 6:49 AM

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first time using hocon, so not sure yet

#

yaml is fugly tho

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 6:49 AM

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i think yaml's kinda cute

#

and it's very simple

hot hull Mar 25, 2021, 6:49 AM

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for commissions I use yaml and properties, this is not a commission so testing out new things

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 6:50 AM

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bro you get commissions

#

i wish I were cool

hot hull Mar 25, 2021, 6:51 AM

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stop doubting yourself

#

#816184744797929522 message

#

go do this

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 6:51 AM

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hmm lemme eat my oreo mcflurry first

hot hull Mar 25, 2021, 6:51 AM

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😫

#

organisation on point

#

wdym kek ;C

#

I'm aware, but what's so funny about that 😢

steel heart Mar 25, 2021, 7:18 AM

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UpperCamelCase module names

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😆

hot hull Mar 25, 2021, 7:19 AM

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Could not care less about that

steel heart Mar 25, 2021, 7:19 AM

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Also ur name is Dom

hot hull Mar 25, 2021, 7:19 AM

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No

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Means Home in my language

steel heart Mar 25, 2021, 7:19 AM

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Like document object model

steel heart Mar 25, 2021, 7:19 AM

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hot hull Could not care less about that

I mean it’s a convention still

hot hull Mar 25, 2021, 7:20 AM

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yeye

steel heart Mar 25, 2021, 7:20 AM

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Sure u cane have the folders uppercamelcase I guess but then change the names to kebab case ?

hot hull Mar 25, 2021, 7:20 AM

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Now I want a kebab

steel heart Mar 25, 2021, 7:21 AM

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Gasp

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 8:09 AM

#

Luckily, Krypton natively bundles kotlinx.serialization, so you can very easily add support for a multitude of formats

#

It comes bundled with JSON and HOCON though

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 8:10 AM

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steel heart UpperCamelCase module names

No

#

whatever-this-case-is

#

And because it supports kotlinx.serialization, you can avoid messy code for transforming your configs into objects, since kotlinx.serialization handles that conversion for you

#

Just make a data class and annotate it with @Serializable

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 8:13 AM

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but what about yaml

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 8:13 AM

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Kaml exists

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 8:13 AM

#

ooh?

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 8:13 AM

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It's not official, but it works

#

It's a converter for kotlinx.serialization for YAML

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 8:14 AM

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https://github.com/ISLEcode/KAML

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not that?

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 8:14 AM

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https://github.com/charleskorn/kaml

GitHub

charleskorn/kaml

YAML support for kotlinx.serialization. Contribute to charleskorn/kaml development by creating an account on GitHub.

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And it's promoted as a format serialiser in the official repo

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 8:15 AM

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oooh spicy

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 8:15 AM

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All you gotta do is manually read the files as text

#

Which I may add some helper functions for

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 8:16 AM

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that uh, that sounds like a lot of work

#

yea lol

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 8:16 AM

#

I mean, it's one line

#

FileReader(File(context.folder, "config.yml")).readText()

#

You might wanna use use there actually (basically Kotlin's equivalent of try with resources)

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 8:18 AM

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I do like try with resources

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 8:25 AM

#

I like Kotlin's lambda function for it

#

FileReader(File(context.folder, "config.yml")).use { it.readText() }

#

Since Kotlin doesn't actually have try with resources

#

Mainly because of that lambda function lol

#

Kotlin doesn't need it

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 8:27 AM

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It still takes me a sec to remember that it is a special keyword in Kotlin lol

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 8:28 AM

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It's not a keyword, it's just the implicit name for the receiver parameter in a lambda

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Avoids you writing use { reader -> reader.readText() }

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 8:29 AM

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Well yeah I know, I'm just not used to it is all

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 8:29 AM

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Fair

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Yeah Java gets you into bad habits of being over verbose lol

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It can be difficult to get out of those habits

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 8:33 AM

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yeah man like I love those series of . calls that, in one line, (or many for prettiness) take an array or something and sort it and return an arraylist or something

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those things are super cool

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 8:39 AM

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Yeah the declarative reactivity is amazing

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A.k.a Kotlin's answer to streams

prisma wave Mar 25, 2021, 8:39 AM

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jovial warren `FileReader(File(context.folder, "config.yml")).readText()`

Literally File.readText()

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No need for a reader

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 8:40 AM

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And apparently I don't know Kotlin that well

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 8:40 AM

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👀

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bm big brain

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 8:41 AM

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jovial warren Yeah the declarative reactivity is amazing

that sounds like two keywords you smooshed together

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 8:41 AM

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I mean the filtering and stuff

prisma wave Mar 25, 2021, 8:42 AM

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that's not reactive

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 8:42 AM

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I know lol, it just seems like a buzzword name haha

onyx loom Mar 25, 2021, 8:49 AM

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everything is a buzzword around here

quiet depot Mar 25, 2021, 8:56 AM

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wouldn't say declarative is a buzzword

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reactive definitely is

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 9:01 AM

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yeah I guess that’s not reactive

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oh also, is it worth me adding flat world generation to Krypton just so you can have something generated by default instead of having to copy your own world over?

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 9:04 AM

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oh shit wait can you not reuse the vanilla worldgen code? cause that's gonna suck

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 9:05 AM

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I could look at some of it, but I really have to limit the amount of time I spend looking at Mojang code, so I don’t end up going insane

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also, their world generator is probably also a mess

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 9:07 AM

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but it must be pretty tough to generate a world exactly like how vanilla does it? I'm only now seeing the precarious balance we have that every server utility generates worlds exactly like vanilla

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 9:08 AM

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I plan to make my own world generator from scratch for Krypton

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it’ll be a huge project, but I can do it I think

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 9:16 AM

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catch Krypton in 30 years with a fully redone worldgen system lol

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 9:17 AM

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lol

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the world generator is last on the priority list atm

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 9:17 AM

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ah yes, krypton users will be forced to enjoy their new server in the void >:)

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 9:18 AM

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lol

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 9:18 AM

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got a trello or something? i'd love to keep up to date on the progress of this bad boy if I ever miss a few discord messages in the infinite stream

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 9:18 AM

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nah I’ll make a really simple flat generator

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 9:19 AM

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cinder flare got a trello or something? i'd love to keep up to date on the progress of this b...

got a project board, but I’m a bit behind because I’m pretty lazy and don’t make issues and add things and move them around like I should lol

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 9:19 AM

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bro trello is so satisfying tho

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though I do agree it is better when other people make the boxes for you and you just get to move them

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coming up with them yourself is the hard part

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 9:20 AM

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Trello is alright, but SaaS

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 9:20 AM

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free for indiviuduals, im sure?

hot hull Mar 25, 2021, 9:20 AM

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clickup better

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 9:20 AM

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I need people to make issues on GitHub with suggestions and bugs lol

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 9:20 AM

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and atlassian is kinda cool

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 9:21 AM

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hot hull clickup better

i shall look that up but it sounds cool already

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 9:21 AM

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not sure if I really like Atlassian tbh

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 9:21 AM

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jira kinda slaps

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 9:21 AM

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their services are a bit expensive for what they are

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yeah Jira is an example of a good service that’s just overpriced

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 9:22 AM

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hey man, you can't put a price on reliability and ease of use

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 9:22 AM

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I guess?

cinder flare Mar 25, 2021, 9:22 AM

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why do you think Adobe still exists despite charging way too much

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 9:22 AM

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true

onyx loom Mar 25, 2021, 9:23 AM

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because theres nothing else that fully competes against them lol

steel heart Mar 25, 2021, 9:23 AM

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jovial warren whatever-this-case-is

It’s called kebab case but you didn’t read the entire convo did you?

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 9:23 AM

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onyx loom because theres nothing else that fully competes against them lol

and this

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 9:23 AM

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steel heart It’s called kebab case but you didn’t read the entire convo did you?

probably not lol

unreal briar Mar 25, 2021, 9:23 AM

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For companies Jira is worth it

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Overpriced for consumers doesn't necessarily mean overpriced for businesses

jovial warren Mar 25, 2021, 9:24 AM

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for individuals though and hobbyists making open-source projects, it’s a rip off