#dev-general | HelpChat | Page 367

half harness Mar 23, 2021, 10:18 PM

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lemme uh practice yk 🙂

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i just hopped on

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 10:18 PM

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well

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lets practice togethr

half harness Mar 23, 2021, 10:19 PM

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plz no

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 10:19 PM

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dud

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Im not even that good

half harness Mar 23, 2021, 10:19 PM

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cmonnn

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just 5 mins

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ok

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fine

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🙂

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lets duel

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 10:19 PM

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I played like gold rank skywars as highest

half harness Mar 23, 2021, 10:19 PM

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wait

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did we duel before?

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or no

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 10:19 PM

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ye

half harness Mar 23, 2021, 10:19 PM

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oh

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 10:19 PM

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that'll be good practice

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dont you think?

half harness Mar 23, 2021, 10:19 PM

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steel heart that'll be good practice

ok

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NOO

cinder flare Mar 23, 2021, 10:20 PM

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ohhh shit it's getting real

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this youtube vid im watching just said "it's time to get functional"

half harness Mar 23, 2021, 10:21 PM

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CONCLURE WHY_ _

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I TOLD I JUST GOT ONNNN_ _

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 10:21 PM

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cinder flare this youtube vid im watching just said "it's time to get *functional*"

lmfao

half harness Mar 23, 2021, 10:21 PM

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NOOO

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NOT THIS

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NOOO

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 10:21 PM

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yes

sweet cipher Mar 23, 2021, 10:21 PM

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You chose bow duels right?

half harness Mar 23, 2021, 10:22 PM

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no

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something worse

sweet cipher Mar 23, 2021, 10:22 PM

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Well everything is worse than bow duels

half harness Mar 23, 2021, 10:34 PM

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I DID IT

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I didn't get to say bye 😢

winter iron Mar 23, 2021, 10:40 PM

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if im getting data from sql and turning it into json, makes sense to just use mongodb instead right

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 10:41 PM

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yeah Ig

winter iron Mar 23, 2021, 10:41 PM

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time to learn mongo

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🙂

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 10:41 PM

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or just split the data up

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like use relational tables

winter iron Mar 23, 2021, 10:41 PM

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    {
        "modelData": 100,
        "name": "This is the models name",
        "author": "SenseiJu",
        "modelType": "HELMET"
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im storing this

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the only thing that "could" change

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is the name

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just gonna be a shit ton of these blocks

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 10:42 PM

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idk not a pro db guy

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but I know you often talk about scalability

winter iron Mar 23, 2021, 10:42 PM

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may as well use mongo, havnt before and will be nice to leanr too

forest pecan Mar 23, 2021, 10:46 PM

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someone gotta enforce xy in #development man

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lol

cinder flare Mar 23, 2021, 10:49 PM

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winter iron may as well use mongo, havnt before and will be nice to leanr too

well the purpose of SQL and Mongo are not the same

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SQL thinks about data in terms of tables and being able to write queries connecting them with the relations they have, hence relational database

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Mongo thinks about things in terms of documents

winter iron Mar 23, 2021, 10:51 PM

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ik, i dont think my above use case requires me to use sql

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 10:51 PM

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someone said mongo is just good for logs

winter iron Mar 23, 2021, 10:51 PM

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i mean i could

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 10:51 PM

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starmism would you say so too?

winter iron Mar 23, 2021, 10:51 PM

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but ill just be transfering from sql -> json

cinder flare Mar 23, 2021, 10:51 PM

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steel heart starmism would you say so too?

i mean they're both good for logs, you're just kinda not utilizing sql to its full potential with an unrelated series of tables

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 10:51 PM

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well yeah

ocean quartz Mar 23, 2021, 10:51 PM

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winter iron but ill just be transfering from sql -> json

Use an ORM

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 10:52 PM

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but only reason I would chose mongo is cuz speed if what I heard is correct

cinder flare Mar 23, 2021, 10:52 PM

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oh I mean yeah it's pretty fast, but connecting a bunch of different tables of data with statements in sql can be much faster if they're complicated

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It's really just about how you think about and model the data

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relational db's are best when you have lots of relations that are easy to model with relations and that you can leverage when writing queries

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 10:53 PM

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yeah

winter iron Mar 23, 2021, 10:54 PM

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for my use case, im litteraly just getting the json data and dumping it else where so sql is not really required

cinder flare Mar 23, 2021, 10:54 PM

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yeah you're not working with very relational data lol

winter iron Mar 23, 2021, 10:54 PM

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not at all

cinder flare Mar 23, 2021, 10:54 PM

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relational db's are like the OOP of databases lmao

winter iron Mar 23, 2021, 10:54 PM

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ill be using sql for user accounts n shit

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but for what i need with my example, its pointless

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anyone ever used a kotlin mongodb framework?

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i see kmongo

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 11:05 PM

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https://github.com/fluidsonic/fluid-mongo

GitHub

fluidsonic/fluid-mongo

Kotlin coroutine support for MongoDB built on top of the official Reactive Streams Java Driver - fluidsonic/fluid-mongo

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mbv this

prisma wave Mar 23, 2021, 11:06 PM

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Man kotlin users really can't use anything without a "native support"

winter iron Mar 23, 2021, 11:06 PM

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if its there why not

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🙂

prisma wave Mar 23, 2021, 11:06 PM

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"uhhh does anyone know where I can find kotlin bindings for spigot 1.11.2?"

dawn hinge Mar 23, 2021, 11:07 PM

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Why 1.11?

winter iron Mar 23, 2021, 11:07 PM

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@prisma wave I can imagine you using Haskell frameworks in Kotlin tbh

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 11:07 PM

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lol

prisma wave Mar 23, 2021, 11:07 PM

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If it was possible I'd love to

winter iron Mar 23, 2021, 11:07 PM

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xd

prisma wave Mar 23, 2021, 11:07 PM

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dawn hinge Why 1.11?

Why not

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Best version obviously

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 11:08 PM

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why, why not

half harness Mar 23, 2021, 11:08 PM

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prisma wave "uhhh does anyone know where I can find kotlin bindings for spigot 1.11.2?"

imagine not using 1.11.1

surreal quarry Mar 23, 2021, 11:08 PM

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java 11 and 1.11 work the best together

forest pecan Mar 23, 2021, 11:08 PM

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Hotlin

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 11:08 PM

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kotlin karens surely take over the world

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rip

dawn hinge Mar 23, 2021, 11:08 PM

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surreal quarry java 11 and 1.11 work the best together

Makes sense

surreal quarry Mar 23, 2021, 11:08 PM

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Haslkin vs Kotell

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pick your fighter

prisma wave Mar 23, 2021, 11:09 PM

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I would use fancy languages a lot more if I actually had a use for them

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Can't write spigot plugins in any of them

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Best you can get is scala

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 11:09 PM

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why not

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just do it

prisma wave Mar 23, 2021, 11:09 PM

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And Scala is... Scala

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 11:09 PM

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scala is nice

prisma wave Mar 23, 2021, 11:09 PM

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Meh

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 11:09 PM

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Ig

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also assembly is worth learning?

quiet depot Mar 23, 2021, 11:10 PM

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100%

prisma wave Mar 23, 2021, 11:10 PM

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Uh

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Probably not unless you have an actual use for it

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 11:11 PM

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I have been thinking about it for quite a while and cant make up my mind rly

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it would be for deeper learning purposes then

prisma wave Mar 23, 2021, 11:11 PM

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Yeah I guess

quiet depot Mar 23, 2021, 11:11 PM

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isn’t there lot’s of assembly langs

prisma wave Mar 23, 2021, 11:11 PM

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yeah

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 11:11 PM

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ye

prisma wave Mar 23, 2021, 11:12 PM

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RISC could be fun to learn

quiet depot Mar 23, 2021, 11:12 PM

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and useful

prisma wave Mar 23, 2021, 11:12 PM

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Yeah

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Program a raspberry pi or something

quiet depot Mar 23, 2021, 11:12 PM

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not where i was going but sure

cinder flare Mar 23, 2021, 11:12 PM

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learn some x86_64 and make some shitty viruses

quiet depot Mar 23, 2021, 11:12 PM

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is risc the same as riscv?

cinder flare Mar 23, 2021, 11:13 PM

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RISC-V is an implementation of RISC

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basically there's two schools of thought when it comes to CPU instructions

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CISC for complicated instruction set where each instruction could do like 10 different things to get one result

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and RISC where every single instruction only takes one clock cycle, so it doesn't do really complicated stuff for you

forest pecan Mar 23, 2021, 11:14 PM

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cinder flare learn some x86_64 and make some shitty viruses

yo

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i made malware

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go check it out

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lol

surreal quarry Mar 23, 2021, 11:16 PM

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ill download it

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 11:16 PM

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also this trend with removing prefix on methods like just
value(var)
instead of setValue(var)
any opinions?

ocean quartz Mar 23, 2021, 11:18 PM

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Don't like it, breaks Kotlin's property conversion

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 11:18 PM

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hmm I see

cinder flare Mar 23, 2021, 11:19 PM

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ocean quartz Don't like it, breaks Kotlin's property conversion

and properties are so nice i hate getters and setters in java

ocean quartz Mar 23, 2021, 11:20 PM

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Yeah, for example on the paper update that adds Adventure, the event is message() since there is no get Kotlin can't do just message

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 11:20 PM

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oh so paper breaks kotlin interoparability sort of?

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:20 PM

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add an extension

quiet depot Mar 23, 2021, 11:21 PM

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make a pr

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:21 PM

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Speaking of which

quiet depot Mar 23, 2021, 11:21 PM

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docdex pr where u at

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:21 PM

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I screwed a pr up relly bad

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The dude asked me to rebase to another branch

ocean quartz Mar 23, 2021, 11:21 PM

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quiet depot make a pr

Nah, it's on purpose, Adventure is entirely written like that

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:21 PM

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And well, I did

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but

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xD

quiet depot Mar 23, 2021, 11:22 PM

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matt, make a pr to adventure perhaps

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:22 PM

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https://github.com/igniterealtime/Smack/pull/466

GitHub

Added proxy support for XEP-0363 by Vshnv · Pull Request #466 · ign...

HttpFileUploadManager did not use proxy info from connection to open the connection. Changed it so it uses the proxy info from the XMPP connection config to connect through the specified proxy wher...

quiet depot Mar 23, 2021, 11:22 PM

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make a new module called kotlin-api which just has a fuck load of extensions

half harness Mar 23, 2021, 11:22 PM

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intellij doesn't like color thonking

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usually it recolors after a second

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:22 PM

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I think ill have to just close the pr and redo unless i wanna die in the further oceans of git commands

half harness Mar 23, 2021, 11:22 PM

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but this time its not

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😦

quiet depot Mar 23, 2021, 11:23 PM

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half harness intellij doesn't like color <:thonking:379541184697204736>

it’s racist

half harness Mar 23, 2021, 11:23 PM

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😑

surreal quarry Mar 23, 2021, 11:23 PM

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its raceless

ocean quartz Mar 23, 2021, 11:23 PM

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There already is an extra-kotlin module, doesn't add much
But it's more of an inconvenience than a problem

half harness Mar 23, 2021, 11:23 PM

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this is so annoyinggg

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:23 PM

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btw matt

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slimjar has begun

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even if only barely

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🥲

ocean quartz Mar 23, 2021, 11:23 PM

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What is Slimjar? xD

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:23 PM

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pdm remake hopefully

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https://github.com/Vshnv/slimjar

GitHub

Vshnv/slimjar

Contribute to Vshnv/slimjar development by creating an account on GitHub.

ocean quartz Mar 23, 2021, 11:24 PM

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Oh it changed name
Ayy I wanna contribute

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:24 PM

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Please do xD

ocean quartz Mar 23, 2021, 11:25 PM

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Do you have a todo list or something?

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:25 PM

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Ill have to set it up

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will do tmr

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Kind of have a rough plan

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Gotta tear open pdm a bit more for more specifics

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 11:26 PM

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I can pr also

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:26 PM

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lit!

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 11:26 PM

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but if its java then Ig

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:26 PM

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lg?

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 11:26 PM

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I guess

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:26 PM

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yea its in Java

stuck harbor Mar 23, 2021, 11:26 PM

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ew

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 11:26 PM

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I barely know kotlin apart from () -> Unit

stuck harbor Mar 23, 2021, 11:26 PM

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I'll PR some clojure :))

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:26 PM

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Sure

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idm

stuck harbor Mar 23, 2021, 11:27 PM

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hehehe

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mwhahahahahaaha

ocean quartz Mar 23, 2021, 11:27 PM

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Let's mix match every jvm language

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:27 PM

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uh

stuck harbor Mar 23, 2021, 11:27 PM

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scala?

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:27 PM

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Maybe in the gradle plugin

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Not in the main part

stuck harbor Mar 23, 2021, 11:27 PM

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quercus?

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:27 PM

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coz dependency size

ocean quartz Mar 23, 2021, 11:27 PM

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Just kidding xD
Is the plugin going to be written in Java?

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:28 PM

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Yes

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as much as possible

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The gradle plugin can be written in kotlin ig

ocean quartz Mar 23, 2021, 11:28 PM

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That's the one I meant ;p

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:28 PM

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Yes we can do kotlin

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 11:28 PM

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kotlin dsl ? 😮

ocean quartz Mar 23, 2021, 11:28 PM

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I have some experience on Gradle plugins

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:28 PM

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Awesome. yea the triumph one right?

ocean quartz Mar 23, 2021, 11:28 PM

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Yeah

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:29 PM

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ill try to set up an org tmr and set up the todo

ocean quartz Mar 23, 2021, 11:29 PM

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Nice

old wyvern Mar 23, 2021, 11:29 PM

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Awesome

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anyway

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gn

ocean quartz Mar 23, 2021, 11:29 PM

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Night!

steel heart Mar 23, 2021, 11:29 PM

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gn

forest pecan Mar 23, 2021, 11:34 PM

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Yugi is going to need setup like loading shit tho

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for dependency loading

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rip

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:06 AM

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gradle gang woo

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im still learning :)

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don't ask me the practical difference between compileOnly implementation and api

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also wow peep the #816184744797929522 , that is one easy plugin

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 12:07 AM

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that is one easy plugin that already exists 100 times on spigot

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:08 AM

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but shh, he's willing to pay $10!

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that could get me a copy of whatever paid plugin I said I didn't have like 3 days ago to Matt

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bruh my gradle hittin me with NO-SOURCE

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:14 AM

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Starmism you still struggling to switch that plugin to gradle? lmao

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:14 AM

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yes!

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i did a few things in the mean time

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:14 AM

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if I were you, I'd just make a new project and copy the files

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over

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:14 AM

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okay yeah that's kinda a good idea

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:14 AM

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like directly from folder to folder

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no need to do it in IJ

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:18 AM

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gradle doesn't know where the source is?

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hmmm

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 12:20 AM

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Wdym?

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 12:20 AM

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im getting close to 1000 commits on gh

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:20 AM

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> Task :processResources NO-SOURCE
> Task :classes UP-TO-DATE
> Task :customCleanUp UP-TO-DATE
> Task :shadowJar```

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 12:21 AM

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That's normal

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:22 AM

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it is?

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it took < a second

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 12:22 AM

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Yeah gradle is speedy

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:22 AM

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jar does not contain plugin.yml 😠

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 12:23 AM

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Is it in the resources folder?

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:23 AM

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there is no resources folder wtf

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ah yes the directory was messed up good catch

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see now it took time

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ooh and an error!

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what's compile group: 'io.puharesource.mc', name: 'TitleManager', version: '2.2.0' in kotlin syntax

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is it not compileOnly("io.puharesource.mc:TitleManager:2.3.1")

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 12:28 AM

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Yeah it is

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:28 AM

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is maven { name 'Puharesource' url 'https://repo.puha.io/repo/' }

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not maven("https://repo.puha.io/repo/")

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 12:28 AM

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It is too

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:28 AM

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then why can't gradle find it 😦

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:29 AM

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what gradle do you use?

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:30 AM

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uh gradle? what types are there

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:30 AM

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kotlin or groovy ?

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:30 AM

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kts

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https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/titlemanager.1049/

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

TitleManager

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this is the plugin

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 12:31 AM

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The repo is probably down

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:31 AM

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well fuck what can I do lol

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 12:31 AM

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There is no 2.3.1 https://repo.puha.io/repo/io/puharesource/mc/TitleManager/

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:31 AM

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download the plugin if the api is included

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oh yeah what Matt said

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:32 AM

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oh wtf

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:32 AM

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yeah

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:32 AM

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hmmm

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:32 AM

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they say 2.2.0

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on spigot as well

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:32 AM

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but the plugin version goes up to 2.3.3

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:32 AM

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version is repo version not plugin version

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:32 AM

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and the one in this guys' eclipse was 2.3.1 lol

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:32 AM

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they don't need to be the same

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:32 AM

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fuckk okay i didn't know there was a difference

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:32 AM

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he probably just used the plugin jar then

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:32 AM

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ya presumably

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:32 AM

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bcz he didn't use maven

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:32 AM

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you guys are the best tysm

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:32 AM

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or gradle

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you should PR btw.

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to that guy

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after you finish

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just added gradle out of nowhere lmao

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:33 AM

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haha

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maybe that's why nobody contributed

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they have to go through this hsit

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 12:33 AM

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Well he probably forgot to upload the new versions to his repo

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:34 AM

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you could probably add that in the gradle, no?

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:35 AM

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you can use the plugin jar in gradle too

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but its not nice

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bcz other will have to download the jar to build

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from code

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:35 AM

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yeah i had to do it for another project

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:36 AM

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its easy just not nice lmao

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:36 AM

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how do you import from the top level package?

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https://i.imgur.com/bbNVQJo.png

Imgur

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:36 AM

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btw who here made a bot with JDA? I forgot. Can I get a link to github?

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:36 AM

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how do I get access to Money from a command

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:36 AM

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ugh

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why did you put all that in java?

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you should've made a new package

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and move them all in that one

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:36 AM

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that's what gradle told me to do 😦

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:36 AM

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I know his was like this

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:36 AM

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okay ill do it ty boss

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 12:37 AM

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static zealot btw who here made a bot with JDA? I forgot. Can I get a link to github?

I can add you to my private repo, but it's a mess

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:37 AM

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i made a bot that counts in sql

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:37 AM

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oh ty. I just need to see something. I think it was BBG btw

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:37 AM

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https://github.com/Starmism/HorizonAI

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:37 AM

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need to find a message from him to see his github

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 12:38 AM

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Blitz what is your gh?

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:39 AM

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BlitzOffline

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 12:39 AM

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https://github.com/ipsk/Kipp/invitations

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:39 AM

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its on my profile tho isn't it?

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did I set it private?

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on my profile or something

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 12:39 AM

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Too lazy to check

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:39 AM

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ah ok

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no worries. and ty

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:39 AM

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ocean quartz https://github.com/ipsk/Kipp/invitations

closed source 👀

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:40 AM

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shh

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we all have things to hide

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:40 AM

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wow

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:40 AM

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like code that's a mess

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lmao

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:40 AM

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time to close source all my repos

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:40 AM

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I preffer to hide my bad code than get flamed for it

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:40 AM

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hmm

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:40 AM

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even tho it might be old

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:40 AM

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that sounds familiar

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very familiar

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 12:40 AM

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half harness closed source 👀

Yes, it's a personal bot, and wasn't even complete

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:42 AM

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plugin.yml should be under /src/main/resources/plugin.yml yes?

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:42 AM

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cinder flare `plugin.yml` should be under `/src/main/resources/plugin.yml` yes?

yes

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:43 AM

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then why is it not in my jar 😠

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:44 AM

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cinder flare then why is it not in my jar 😠

how are you building ur jar

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:44 AM

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gradle shadowjar

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using the same setup as my other plugin that works

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:45 AM

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can I see the project tree?

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ss

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:45 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/hJPlyGP.png

Imgur

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:46 AM

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👀

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:46 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:46 AM

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hmm it looks right

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:46 AM

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cinder flare ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

is this ur server 👀

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:46 AM

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that's strange

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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no its for a random guy who wanted a placeholder of money with no commas

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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um

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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and im forcing myself to learn gradle

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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u should rename ur package-

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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why?

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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but he's going to PR

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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it should always be unique

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oh

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ohhh

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this is a PR?

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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yeah im just modifying a guys code

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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yeah

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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ah okay

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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i didn't write this shit myself lmao

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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then that guy should rename his package 👀

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but dw about all that stuff

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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ugh

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that guy

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had no package

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lmao

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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what

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:48 AM

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he wasn't using gradle or anything

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yeah

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he had no src

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no nothing

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:48 AM

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yeah I just copied from his eclipse thing

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 12:48 AM

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he was using eclipse

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:48 AM

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oh

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:48 AM

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https://paste.helpch.at/icidebojec.js

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there's the build.gradle.kts

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https://paste.helpch.at/nosogoyadi.sql

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:/

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:50 AM

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cinder flare :/

what happens if u unzip jar

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:50 AM

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it has plugin.yml there

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https://i.imgur.com/JJEVOSS.png

Imgur

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:50 AM

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then plugin.yml is invalid

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:50 AM

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why it say file not found then 😠

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:51 AM

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iirc if it says "does not contain" it either means
a) its invalid
b) its not there

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weird

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:51 AM

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mmk mk

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:51 AM

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send me plugin.yml

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:51 AM

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https://paste.helpch.at/amosuruhef.sql

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 12:51 AM

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You don't need this

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:51 AM

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oh sick okay

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 12:52 AM

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And what is this?

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:52 AM

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i have no clue, someone here gave it to me

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i said "help i use maven and not gradle" and someone said "okay here's a default template"

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:53 AM

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version: 1.16.4

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in plugin.yml

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:53 AM

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that was his version bro

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:53 AM

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lmao

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:53 AM

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this was the same plugin.yml that worked apparently

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:54 AM

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does Money extend JavaPlugin?

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:54 AM

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yes

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 12:54 AM

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huh

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odd

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:54 AM

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everything about this plugin is odd lmao

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 12:56 AM

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Try this https://paste.helpch.at/vucuyezovi.makefile

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 12:58 AM

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awe nice that worked

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man i wish i knew gradle lol

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awe nice I did it

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:02 AM

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cinder flare awe nice that worked

Ugh is Money the main class? I forgot

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 1:02 AM

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You learn with time
Took me a while to get used to it
And now getting used to kts

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:02 AM

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static zealot Ugh is `Money` the main class? I forgot

yea lmao

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oh blitz you already opened a PR lmao

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ooh and you included it as an int? that's pretty funky. is that for cross-plugin compatability?

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:04 AM

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huh?

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I added 2 new placeholders

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that's why

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%.._balance% which is just the double it gets, %..._balance_Fixed% which fixes it (I just made it an int) and %..._balance_commas% which returns the old thing %..._balance% used to return

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but I think I messed up the casting of double to int

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not sure

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I didn't even open it in IJ

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I just edited the file on github

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lmao

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:06 AM

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okay I'll replicate what you did but also ensure it works, then do a pr adding gradle lmao

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:06 AM

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yeah

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I'll just close mine

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:06 AM

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I just added %economybank_balance_nfr% for no format lol

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:06 AM

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saying that someone is making it better

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name it balance

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:06 AM

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gotta have that backwards compatability eh>

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:06 AM

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and add formatted_ for commas one

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and fixed

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for no commas, and int

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:07 AM

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cinder flare gotta have that backwards compatability eh>

what backwards compatibility?

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 1:07 AM

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Blitz I need a suggestion

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:07 AM

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the expansion is in the jar so its not needed

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:07 AM

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i dunno lol, so it doesn't mess up anyone who was using it before

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:07 AM

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dw about that

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just do it

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:07 AM

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well it'll unformat everyone's placeholders haha

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:07 AM

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rename it

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:07 AM

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okay

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sure lol

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:07 AM

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oh I see what you mean

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well dw about that

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lmaooo

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:07 AM

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ocean quartz Blitz I need a suggestion

what type of suggestion?

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 1:09 AM

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static zealot what type of suggestion?

How do you think I should handle nicknames on my chat plugin? Basically the issue is that if I do /nick <r:.5>Matt for example from essentials, in chat it will look great using the placeholder %player_displayname% but everywhere else like essentials list, it'll look raw
Examples, chat:

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List:

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:11 AM

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oh damn that's a good question. I'd say you make your own expansion in the plugin if you add stuff like /nick. And make your own placeholder and instead of Player#setDisplayName you do what essentials I think does and just set it in your own file

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and set the dispaly name

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using old colors

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legacy colors*

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or you could set the dispaly name to use the essentials hex formatting but idk if that works in /list tho

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This is the best way I can think about doing it

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 1:13 AM

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Yeah that's what i thought too 😫

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:13 AM

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and I think legacy colors in setDisplayName is best

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so it works with everything else

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and just use the library that converts hex to the closest legacy

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I guess

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:14 AM

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I love the raw

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:14 AM

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but that will suck when they use Essentials's /nick or other plugin's /nick command

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:14 AM

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nah just only support 1.16 and up and use hex

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 1:14 AM

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cinder flare I love the ***raw***

I am very expressive

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:14 AM

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yeah

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but other plugins

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won't use the same formattingh

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 1:15 AM

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im sorry, but 1 million interations is no way in hell 30 nanoseconds right? Cause someone said that in #development

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:15 AM

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it looks bad raw

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 1:15 AM

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cinder flare I love the ***raw***

😏 😉

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:15 AM

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forest pecan im sorry, but 1 million interations is no way in hell 30 nanoseconds right? Caus...

ugh I'd say it could take that.

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 1:16 AM

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no chance

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:16 AM

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never worked with speeds tho

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so I can't really say

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like usually I just use seconds

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with this laptop lmao

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oh I just tested a for loop and it took 5514500 .idk what System#nanoTime is tho so that sucks lmao

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it takes 3 milisecs for me

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~ 3 at least

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:21 AM

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blitz how did you return an int in a method that returns String?

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or did you mean just round it to the nearest full int

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:21 AM

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I did parse it as a string after

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no you should floor it

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not nearest

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doesn't casting a double like 1.4424 to an int in java make it 1 ?

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:22 AM

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well that would be 1

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:22 AM

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yeah

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so balance_fixed

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:23 AM

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Math.floor that bad boy?

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:23 AM

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wait 1.67232 would become 2?

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with casting?

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:23 AM

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I have no clue let me check

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:23 AM

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if yes then yeah floor it

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I can check too

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let me make a scratch file

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:24 AM

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cinder flare I have no clue let me check

Oh I think the problem is I was casting a Double to int not a double

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that makes sense

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:25 AM

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It seems like Math#round rounds to either the nearest int or double

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:25 AM

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yeah

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you need to floor it

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that's what I'm saying

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:25 AM

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oh do I not want it to be rounded?

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:25 AM

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nope

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bcz what if he has 450.7$ but he's checking for 451$ the placeholder would say he has it

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but in fact he does not

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he has a bit more over 450

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but not 451

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:26 AM

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oh shoot that's a very solid point

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:26 AM

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and yeah parsing a double to int does floor it

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it basically just removes the part after .

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including it

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but the problem is that he uses Double

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not double

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:26 AM

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return String.valueOf(Math.floor(bal));

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:27 AM

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yeah but also fix it

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:27 AM

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wait waht

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:27 AM

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Math.floor(bal).toFixed(0)

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I think

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:27 AM

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what does fixed do?

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:27 AM

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bcz we don't want it to be a double

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:27 AM

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oh removes the decimal?

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:27 AM

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well with 0

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it lets 0 decimals

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with 1 it lets 1

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wait

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idk if toFixed

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is a thing in java

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tho lmao

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:28 AM

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yeah doesn't seem to be lmao

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well math.floor makes it an int

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:28 AM

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I tihnk it is Double#setPrecision

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wait it does?

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:28 AM

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yea

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returns the nearest int or long

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:28 AM

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it does not tho https://i.imgur.com/wfCUFll.png

Imgur

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:28 AM

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oh fuck it don't

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i was looking at round lmao

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sheeet

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what if I just cast it to an int?

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cause it'll only have .0 after it

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 1:29 AM

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cinder flare what if I just cast it to an int?

that is not the same as flooring though

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:29 AM

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well do both

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it's floored

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then cast that resulting double to an int

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 1:29 AM

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> Configure project :
Project : => no module-info.java found

Anyone know how to fix this? (Gradle)

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:29 AM

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should just chop off the .0's eh?

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:30 AM

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yeah

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 1:30 AM

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flooring will round towards negative infinity, casting to int is just removing the decimals (effectively rounding to 0)

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:30 AM

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I think it is

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:30 AM

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obtuse gale flooring will round towards negative infinity, casting to int is just removing t...

yeah i know lmao

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:30 AM

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Double#longValue()

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you can't cast Double to int tho

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in java

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 1:30 AM

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but they give you different numbers depending on the sign

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:30 AM

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can you?

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:31 AM

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Double#intValue

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 1:31 AM

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static zealot can you?

yeah you can

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:31 AM

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obtuse gale but they give you different numbers depending on the sign

wtf are you talking about

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:31 AM

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oh damn I was looking for a way to cast it so bad

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 1:31 AM

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cinder flare wtf are you talking about

I'm talking about flooring vs casting to int

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:31 AM

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we're not doing that

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we're flooring

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:31 AM

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just do return String.valueOf(Double.intValue(Math.floor(bal))); @cinder flare

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for the fixed placeholder

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:32 AM

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well hold on boss

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:32 AM

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?

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:32 AM

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Math#floor returns a normal double

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:32 AM

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oh xD

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then cast it

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:32 AM

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and Double#intValue ain't a static method lmao

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:32 AM

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lmao

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:32 AM

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great, mission accomplished gang

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 1:32 AM

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just (int) Math.floor(bal)

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:33 AM

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return String.valueOf((int) Math.floor(bal));

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:33 AM

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got it guys

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:33 AM

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btw give me link to your github project before you PR. to see the placeholders

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:33 AM

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oh shit yeah I gotta fork it don't I

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can I rebase my new work on a fork easily?

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I guess just copy paste eh

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:34 AM

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hmm you'll have to delete all the old files tho

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and then post the new ones

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:34 AM

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fucking oof

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:34 AM

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idk how to do it using commands so you'll probably either have to learn

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or manually

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:34 AM

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lets goooo

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:35 AM

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delete using website

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:35 AM

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im learning so much from a random ass plugin lol

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:35 AM

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cinder flare lets goooo

does it work?

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oh nvm

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thank you IJ Error: Invalid or corrupt jarfile C:\Users\---\Desktop\Projects\AlphaBot\build\libs\AlphaBot.jar this is very helpful

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and now it works!!??!!??

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:44 AM

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All placeholders work! :)

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:44 AM

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nice

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:44 AM

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ah the old censored name

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are you saying your real name isn't Blitz?

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:44 AM

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no

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:44 AM

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🤔

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:45 AM

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it just uses an email of mine

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bcz windows stupid

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:45 AM

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ah yes I can attest to that

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:45 AM

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and instead of setting up the folder as my username it did it as my email

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 1:45 AM

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I thought your name was BlitzZzZzZ <Surname that i don't know>

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:45 AM

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idk if I can just change the folder name

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 1:45 AM

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Sad

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:45 AM

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or would that just break a lot of stuff

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bcz I have 2 users and mine is administrator

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Oh apparently you can

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a bit complicated but possible

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 1:47 AM

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cinder flare ah the old censored name

It's not censored

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His real name actually is ---

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 1:48 AM

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sshhhh

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I really thought I can keep it a secret

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and make them think the oposit e

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:50 AM

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oh no!

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turns out this mans was running 1.8

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and jdk 11 is not supported lol

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 1:50 AM

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how depressing

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:50 AM

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so now recompiling for jdk 8

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🙃

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 1:50 AM

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you can run 1.8.8 on Java 11 though

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:51 AM

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not paper

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 1:51 AM

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Spigot?

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I'm sure it should work

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:51 AM

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i dunno he's using paper and it said they didn't support it

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 1:51 AM

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ah

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it works though

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:51 AM

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that's what I thoguht

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 1:51 AM

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it literally works

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:51 AM

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bro I dunno

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 1:51 AM

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I do

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:54 AM

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that's just what he said

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 1:54 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I can run 1.8.8 on Java 11 on both windows and linux so it's also not an OS thing

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:55 AM

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well no yeah it's some of his plugins

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conflict

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 1:55 AM

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do I smell heavy reflection hacks?

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 1:55 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 2:01 AM

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I think I just deleted my user from windows

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holy shit

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good thing I made a backup huh

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and the restore button doesn't work. great

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 2:06 AM

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lmao

sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 2:10 AM

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Just use the restore restore button button

forest pecan Mar 24, 2021, 2:10 AM

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Just call tech support man

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indian tech support

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sweet cipher Mar 24, 2021, 2:16 AM

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I only have two gifs favorited lol

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Everyone seems to have a ton of pictures

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 2:17 AM

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god windows be the worst

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there's a reason I run WSL lol

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 2:20 AM

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Switch to Linux you pussy

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 2:20 AM

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Exactly!

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Arch/Debian gang is the true way

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@static zealot https://github.com/brunyman/EconomyBank/pull/20

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whenever he gets back lmao

half harness Mar 24, 2021, 3:13 AM

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what looks better: yml Command: help Information: shows help Aliases: h or ```yml
Command: help
Aliases: h
Information: shows help

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(this is what will output if I do /help)

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 3:17 AM

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bottom

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that way you know in a nice order every way to do the command

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Then the bottom can be multi-lined and however long you want

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 4:25 AM

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https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/parametersarenonnullbydefault-annotation.html

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On the wiki but not available on 20.1.0 thonking

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oh

To use the annotation, add the jsr305 library to module dependencies:

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 4:44 AM

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static zealot and the restore button doesn't work. great

It may have took 4 hours and 40 minutes to get everything back

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but its worth it

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now my user folder is named blitz

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lmaooo

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I wonder how many apps will break. So far none but I've only used like 6

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2 hours

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fuck my math is so bad

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 4:45 AM

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My user folder is named vaish

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 4:45 AM

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it used to be my email that I don't even use but on what my microsoft account is made. bcz that's how windows works... lmao instead of taking my username as my username it uses my email

old wyvern Mar 24, 2021, 4:46 AM

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Lol

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 4:46 AM

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old wyvern My user folder is named vaish

mine is User 🥲

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 4:47 AM

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you can change it. Not that hard. just 2 hours and 40 minutes

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it took me

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 4:47 AM

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meh

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 4:47 AM

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but that's bcz my pc is also crashing a lot lately

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also I think there was a better way but I'm not testing it again lmao

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get your daily people

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wait what the fuck?

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why is the daily 2 hours sooner?

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 4:48 AM

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1 hour

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 4:48 AM

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oh 1?

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still why?

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 4:48 AM

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daylight saving

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 4:48 AM

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oh that makes sense lmao. I just thought funnycube decided to move the servers

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btw Barry's Secretary has been offline for a while. Did glare break the servers? :))

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@quick lava how are you?

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wake up

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 4:50 AM

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Stupid Microsoft named my folder the beginning of my email

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 4:50 AM

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ok so first thing that might be broken is my browser. oh nvm

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its back

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 4:50 AM

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ocean quartz Stupid Microsoft named my folder the beginning of my email

mine was the full email lmao

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that's why I spent 2 hours and 40 minutes to change it today

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OH NO

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The cookies are gone https://i.imgur.com/3sxJhHf.png

Imgur

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so are the expansions

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or extensions

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idk what they are called lmao

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oh no 😦 https://i.imgur.com/F9Ox7nk.png

Imgur

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it doesn't know I changed my folder name

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 5:03 AM

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cinder flare <@!444552204158763016> https://github.com/brunyman/EconomyBank/pull/20

just a small thing I just noticed, you named the main package net.craftersland he had it net.craftersland.money

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and also why does "balance_formatted" return the same thing as balance ?

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I thought we agreed that balance will just return the raw balance

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:04 AM

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nah he had the package as net.craftersland as far as I can tell

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Money is the main class

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 5:05 AM

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no he did not

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check the PR commit

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https://i.imgur.com/wsi4wBl.png

Imgur

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:05 AM

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and balance_formatted returns the integer form, which happens to be the same as balance most of the time

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 5:05 AM

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literally every file is marked as deleted

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and then readded

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:05 AM

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oh

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I mean okay, doesn't matter too too much but Ill change it

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 5:06 AM

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afai can see https://i.imgur.com/fsmtOFc.png

Imgur

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there's no difference between those 2

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or am I really that blind?

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other than the sapces

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:06 AM

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commas

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 5:06 AM

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ohh

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ah that makes more sense

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 5:06 AM

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That's one heck of a PR lmao

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:07 AM

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yeah didn't realize the package was messed up lol

ocean quartz Mar 24, 2021, 5:07 AM

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Happens

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:08 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/FGzGktH.png

Imgur

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lmao

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awe too bad git can't tell that I missed a version

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it just has every single file removing everything and readding it lol

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 5:20 AM

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So I think I actually have to maintain a copy of my user file called my old username bcz some apps still look for it

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I think I'll just save what I need and reset windows. I do have a lot of trash on it

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:22 AM

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yeah man, it's a yearly ritual to reset windows and clean that sucker up

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 5:23 AM

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I haven't done it in like 2

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I just hate setting everything back up

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like downloading browser, minecraft, IJ, steam, epic store, git bash, nvidia geforce, sublime text, winscp, and all the others

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lmao

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:25 AM

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see that's why I wrote a powershell script to do most of that for me ;)

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though its a little broken lmao

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 5:25 AM

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😢

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:25 AM

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god I hate powershell

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if only I could use bash

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 5:26 AM

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I should really start putting all my projects on github tho and updating those that are behind

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bcz I will lose them and I'll be so fucking sad

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:26 AM

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yeah man!

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 5:26 AM

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github is just free storage space

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 5:26 AM

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Legit

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 5:26 AM

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cinder flare if only I could use bash

#dev-general message

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:27 AM

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bro

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im lobbying for arch all day

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but arch can't run siege sadly

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 5:28 AM

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I was actually thinking of using 2 OSs but idk.

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 5:28 AM

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Lmao

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:28 AM

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I dual boot

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whenever I need the serious dev enviornment, I swap over to arch

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usually for GUI stuff, like my pong clone

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cause getting that bad boy working in WSL is a painnn

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 5:29 AM

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the problem for me is that it just gets me randomly and if I have to switch every time I want to develop it would be such a pain in the ass

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:29 AM

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i mean yeah that's why I mostly use windows

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 5:29 AM

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cinder flare cause getting that bad boy working in WSL is a painnn

Doesn't it run on SLFM?

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:29 AM

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SFML

static zealot Mar 24, 2021, 5:29 AM

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tho I'm thinking of at least learning to use CMD or git bash if I can

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 5:29 AM

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Yeah whatever lol

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:29 AM

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but I dev C/C++ in WSL

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 5:29 AM

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Ah

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:29 AM

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because clang is a better compiler than MGWV or whatever

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windows really fucked up their C/C++ compiler ecosystem

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 5:30 AM

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Clang is best

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And msvc is really good too though, but it's a pain to set up sometimes

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:30 AM

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nah it's pretty rough

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not LLVM based yikes

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clang is the gradle of C build tools lmao

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 5:31 AM

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It is, but msvc also does things specifically for windows (of fucking course) that delegates to the os directly

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:31 AM

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fuck windows

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all my homies hate windows

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 5:31 AM

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But siege 🥺

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 5:32 AM

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lol dead game

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:32 AM

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no shh

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new season just came out and its pretty nice

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 5:32 AM

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i played a game today and left mid way through

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:32 AM

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well that just means you're a bad person

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 5:32 AM

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im never a bad person!

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:33 AM

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don't tell me it was ranked

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 5:33 AM

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na lol

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:33 AM

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oh phew

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ranked is a whole different game

onyx loom Mar 24, 2021, 5:33 AM

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truly

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horrific scenes there

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 5:33 AM

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it's a lot more fun when you're working as a coordinated team and not just 5 random people who happen to be forced to defend the same site

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bro im kinda tempted to fork that shitty bank plugin, convert it to Kotlin, then improve it substantially

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cause it seems like its kinda dead

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 6:02 AM

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What bank plugin

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 6:02 AM

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That one named "None of your fucking business"

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 6:03 AM

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Oh wow rude

cinder flare Mar 24, 2021, 6:03 AM

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lmao

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 6:03 AM

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ily2

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 6:03 AM

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Fuck you

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 6:03 AM

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When and where

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 6:03 AM

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Fucking knew you were gonna say that

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 6:04 AM

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😉

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 7:13 AM

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I mean who said I wasn't down 😏

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 7:28 AM

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Someone here got information about ssl certificates?

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 7:37 AM

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google fingerguns

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 7:40 AM

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Couldn't able to find about it

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I got a domain from namcheap, transferred to cloudflare.

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Added cname of www

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But www version site dont have ssl

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But non www has it.

obtuse gale Mar 24, 2021, 7:41 AM

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menu_title_update_interval: 20 not working any more on newer versions?

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 7:41 AM

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Sir this is #dev-general

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 7:41 AM

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Shit.

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😅

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Mb

lost forge Mar 24, 2021, 7:45 AM

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Me: adds new feature(s) to plugin
Also Me: can't be bothered testing new features so delays release of said features....

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 7:46 AM

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sm0rt

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 7:47 AM

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That is reasonable

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Testing sucks

lost forge Mar 24, 2021, 7:48 AM

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Specially since one or two of these features aren't exactly small...

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 7:58 AM

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vast pilot I got a domain from namcheap, transferred to cloudflare.

one of cloudflare's tools lets you get an SSL cert when you proxy your site through them

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 7:59 AM

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oblique heath one of cloudflare's tools lets you get an SSL cert when you proxy your site thro...

How

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:00 AM

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go to SSL/TLS

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:00 AM

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Then?

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:00 AM

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then go to Origin Server

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and make a certificate

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:00 AM

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Ok i am making one,still it asks some questions

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RSA OR ECC

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:01 AM

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leave it at RSA 2048

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then enter your hostname, you probably want mydomain.com and *.mydomain.com

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:02 AM

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YES

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:02 AM

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xd

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:02 AM

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It generated,thats all?

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:03 AM

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yeah be sure to copy both of those before you leave the page

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:03 AM

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Where should i use them?

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:03 AM

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once you leave you won't be able to view them again

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you use them as you would any normal SSL certificate

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so if you're using nginx you want to make a file to store each of those in, and then use them in your config

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etc etc

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:04 AM

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Plesk panel

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:04 AM

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never heard of it

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:04 AM

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Cpanel

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Count it as same thing.

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:04 AM

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but i'm sure they have instructions on how to add the certificate

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:04 AM

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Yeah so i need to add these certificate there and boom?

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:04 AM

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yeah basically

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:04 AM

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🤟 Thanks

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:05 AM

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but remember these certificates are only good for connecting to cloudflare

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so if your website is not proxied by cloudflare, they will not work

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:05 AM

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They are

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:06 AM

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then you should be good, good luck 🙂

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:08 AM

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@oblique heath

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.crt file

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It asks that to upload

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:08 AM

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yeah

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:09 AM

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I have txt format

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2 things

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So what's the catch hrte?

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Here*

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:09 AM

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you'll have to generate the crt file using your public and private key

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:09 AM

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Where to do that?

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Bc i have two things.

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What to upload...

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https://helpcenter.gsx.com/hc/en-us/articles/115015887447-Extracting-Certificate-crt-and-PrivateKey-key-from-a-Certificate-pfx-File

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Should i follow this?

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:13 AM

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yeah that looks like it'd work

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you can try following the answers here too:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13732826/convert-pem-to-crt-and-key
they seem pretty similar to that site

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:14 AM

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Plesk is asking only crt

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:14 AM

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right

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:14 AM

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What is private used for then?

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:14 AM

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you put both your public and private key into the same text file

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and then run openssl to convert that into a .crt

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i think

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:15 AM

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Format of putting both things?
Begin
End
Begin
End?

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:15 AM

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yeah

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just make sure you include everything including the -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE----- bits

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:16 AM

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Yeah

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Ok

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Is this possible from mobile?

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txt to crt?

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:17 AM

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i dont think you can do it on mobile

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you'll need to use the openssl command on windows

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(or linux fingerguns )

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:18 AM

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You mean the objectively superior unix command line xD

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:18 AM

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yes

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:19 AM

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totally not a Windows user

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https://tenor.com/oZZh.gif

Tenor

Huh

▶ Play video

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I do have an Arch Linux install on my other drive though

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:20 AM

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The conversation process is bad lol

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Android's are weird

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👀

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:20 AM

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Lol

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Android good iOS bad

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Facts

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:21 AM

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I can argue in terms of satefy of information.

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:22 AM

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i've never tried arch

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i use centos for all my linux needs, and it's perfectly fine

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🥲

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:22 AM

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I like Android because unlike Apple, Google actually cares about developers

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:23 AM

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oblique heath i use centos for all my linux needs, and it's perfectly fine

CentOS was great, Stream sucks though

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IBM killed CentOS

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:24 AM

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Use windows,da best.

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:24 AM

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Stfu you know nothing

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You're not a developer

vast pilot Mar 24, 2021, 8:24 AM

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Yeah yeah.

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I mean i am learning python in my school

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I am developer

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https://c.tenor.com/wjS2sXen8iMAAAAM/stonks-up-stongs.gif

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Embed fail.

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:26 AM

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Contrary to what seems like semi-popular opinion, development on Windows still sucks ass

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 8:26 AM

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windows doodoo

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:27 AM

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I mean, I only use Windows for convenience

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Might switch everything over to my Arch system soon

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:28 AM

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fortnite on Arch

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is the future

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 8:29 AM

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we need more arch exclusives

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:30 AM

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I swear if you even try to circlejerk cheap man's Arch

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A.k.a Manjaro

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:30 AM

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what's so good about arch

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it feels kinda middle of the road

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if you want to do everything yourself why not just use gentoo

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:30 AM

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The OS that tries (and obviously fails) to turn Arch Linux into a fixed release distro

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:31 AM

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oblique heath if you want to do everything yourself why not just use gentoo

Never used Gentoo

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Arch is literally the barest of bare bones operating systems there is lol

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:31 AM

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i can see how you've never used gentoo

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:31 AM

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Lol

quiet depot Mar 24, 2021, 8:31 AM

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lfs

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is where it’s at

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:32 AM

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Arch gives you the utilities to install packages and comes with all the recommended Linux built in tools and that's it

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 8:32 AM

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jovial warren The OS that tries (and obviously fails) to turn Arch Linux into a fixed release ...

How does it fail

quiet depot Mar 24, 2021, 8:32 AM

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does it have dinosaurs

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 8:33 AM

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You say that a lot but you've never actually said why it's bad

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:33 AM

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prisma wave How does it fail

Because Arch isn't designed to be fixed release

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 8:33 AM

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And?

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You're talking like it's got some terrible flaw

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:33 AM

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Arch updates so often that having it as fixed release gets you insanely out of date, and you just end up reinstalling more often when a new fixed release comes out

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 8:34 AM

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I've never had to do that

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Is that speaking from experience or just guessing?

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:34 AM

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Or you install just as often as other fixed releases and miss out on Arch's continuous stream of updates

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Guessing

quiet depot Mar 24, 2021, 8:35 AM

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ubuntu best os

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:35 AM

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The words "Arch" and "fixed release" just don't go together

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 8:35 AM

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Manjaro isn't arch

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:35 AM

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That's just a fact

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 8:35 AM

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I've only ever had to reinstall out of choice

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 8:35 AM

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quiet depot does it have dinosaurs

dinosaurs where

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 8:35 AM

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So I'm either extremely lucky or that's not true

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:36 AM

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https://www.hadet.dev/Manjaro-Bad/

Don't Install Manjaro

Manjaro markets itself as a new user friendly distribution. It attempts to cater to the the same demographic of users as Mint(a conversation for another time.) and Ubuntu. The Manjaro maintainers are however very bad at doing this at anything deeper than a surface level. This makes the concept fundamentally fall apart.

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Not stable lol

heady birch Mar 24, 2021, 8:37 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunOS 😩

SunOS

SunOS is a Unix-branded operating system developed by Sun Microsystems for their workstation and server computer systems. The SunOS name is usually only used to refer to versions 1.0 to 4.1.4, which were based on BSD, while versions 5.0 and later are based on UNIX System V Release 4, and are marketed under the brand name Solaris.

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:37 AM

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For what Arch is, it's surprisingly one of the most stable Linux distros there is

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I've seen some in the Paper Discord even say that Arch is often more stable than Windows 10

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 8:38 AM

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Can't say I've had any issues with windows 10 so far

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:38 AM

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jovial warren I've seen some in the Paper Discord even say that Arch is often more stable than...

that's a pretty low bar o.O

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:39 AM

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True

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:39 AM

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if you say it constantly gets updates

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:39 AM

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hot hull Can't say I've had any issues with windows 10 so far

Yeah I think Microsoft's finally getting their shit together

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:39 AM

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that's like the opposite of stable to me

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 8:40 AM

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I mean I rarely update windows anyways

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 8:40 AM

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jovial warren https://www.hadet.dev/Manjaro-Bad/

Never experienced any of those issues

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:40 AM

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Fair

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 8:40 AM

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Considering how often I reinstall I don't want to go through the effort of reinstalling arch every time

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Manjaro is perfect for what I need

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 8:41 AM

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Why do you reinstall tho

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:41 AM

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You don't have to reinstall Arch unless something really goes wrong

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 8:41 AM

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I really couldn't care less if some package is a week late to update

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 8:41 AM

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hot hull Why do you reinstall tho

Either I mess something up or get bored

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:41 AM

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hot hull Why do you reinstall tho

fixed release distro

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Lol

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 8:41 AM

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"or get bored"

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go outside smh

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 8:42 AM

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No but like

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:42 AM

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Messing something up is a very common occurrence for Arch

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 8:42 AM

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Just get gud

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:42 AM

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Unless you're a literal guru like me and know how Linux works

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 8:42 AM

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The last mess up was my windows install corrupting

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:42 AM

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And know that doing certain things will break your system

prisma wave Mar 24, 2021, 8:42 AM

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Was easier to just reinstall everything

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:43 AM

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rm -rf /

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:43 AM

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oblique heath `rm -rf /`

rm -rf --no-preserve-root /

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:43 AM

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true

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or rm -rf /* >:)

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:43 AM

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Lol

#

Or just unplug your drive and throw it out your bedroom window fingerguns

quiet depot Mar 24, 2021, 8:44 AM

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@hot hull windows 10 will blue screen eventually

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just takes some time

lost forge Mar 24, 2021, 8:45 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/jhon-cena-windows-update-update-windows-jhon-gif-19395779

Tenor

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:45 AM

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When you make an operating system that people pay for that's less stable than a system that just throws out updates when they come out, you know something is wrong

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:45 AM

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lost forge https://tenor.com/view/jhon-cena-windows-update-update-windows-jhon-gif-19395779

kekw

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 8:46 AM

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jovial warren Or just unplug your drive and throw it out your bedroom window <:fingerguns:7306...

One day I'll record that

jovial warren Mar 24, 2021, 8:46 AM

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hot hull One day I'll record that

Dare you lol

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 8:46 AM

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bet

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:47 AM

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i'll do it

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i have a near-broken 6tb drive

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it's caused me too much pain

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 8:49 AM

#

#

This fucker

quiet depot Mar 24, 2021, 8:49 AM

#

main problems I had with windows were:

excessive idle usage
infrequent blue screens (probably countable on my hands, over a few years)
occasional popup errors (I tried to find a picture, but I can't remember what it's called. Most commonly happened when shutting down)
not cool. linux is cool, windows isn't

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ah found a pic

hot hull Mar 24, 2021, 8:50 AM

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Okay yea the excessive idle usage that I can agree with

oblique heath Mar 24, 2021, 8:50 AM

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terrible legacy GUIs for systems settings / config

heady birch Mar 24, 2021, 8:50 AM

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I wonder if thats a ram issue or something, maybe not if it doesnt happen with linux