#dev-general | HelpChat | Page 346

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 5:27 PM

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It's a thread that keeps updating after a quantity of time

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 5:27 PM

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not bad

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 5:27 PM

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I'm not sure if It's efficient

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 5:27 PM

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player_list though breaks conventions btw

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 5:27 PM

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oh, thanks! :)

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It does?

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 5:28 PM

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yeah, variables should be camelCase

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e.g. playerList

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 5:28 PM

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ah, I see

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thanks, I'll remember that

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 5:29 PM

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and just wanna get you out of bad habits now if I can, naming variables things like p and loc doesn't look very nice imo, and isn't always the best for readability

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 5:33 PM

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oh, ok!

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also! The plugin is working! :D

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 5:34 PM

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good good

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 5:34 PM

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however, I guess It's a bit unfair for a challenge, since the column gets destroyed instantly, haha

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I'll try to do a timer, so the blocks can dissapear one at a time, at a fast pace

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do you guys know if java has a function like "sleep()"

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that is, It stops the thread for a couple miliseconds and then continue?

errant geyser Mar 13, 2021, 5:36 PM

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Thread.sleep, though it is blocking obviously

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 5:37 PM

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oh, It makes sense

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so, if my thread is supposed to execute every 5 seconds

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but the thread itself takes 8 seconds to execute

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it wont work as I intended, right?

old wyvern Mar 13, 2021, 5:37 PM

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mhm

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Check the differences in time

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 5:38 PM

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yeah, yeah, no prob

half harness Mar 13, 2021, 5:44 PM

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also make sure you're running that async

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or else or gonna crash ur mc server 👀

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 5:47 PM

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wait

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idk what you mean

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do I call the thread in async?

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BukkitTask taskPrincipal = new BlockMisser(this).runTaskTimer(this, 0L, 10L);

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mine is currently like this

half harness Mar 13, 2021, 5:50 PM

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wot

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I'm talking about Thread.sleep()

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 5:51 PM

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oooh

half harness Mar 13, 2021, 5:51 PM

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you don't want to sleep the main thread (use BukkitScheduler)

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 5:51 PM

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all right, thanks

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 5:52 PM

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yeah never sleep the main thread

oblique heath Mar 13, 2021, 5:52 PM

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^

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 5:52 PM

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cause spigot is shite

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and runs most stuff in 1 thread

half harness Mar 13, 2021, 5:52 PM

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paper kite all right, thanks

so like ```java
Bukkit.getScheduler(this, () -> {
System.out.println("hi");
}, 20L);

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 5:52 PM

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for some bloody rasin

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mmm lambda

oblique heath Mar 13, 2021, 5:52 PM

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a lot of games run their logic on one thread

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 5:52 PM

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games

oblique heath Mar 13, 2021, 5:52 PM

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yes

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 5:52 PM

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just use goroutines

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ffs

errant geyser Mar 13, 2021, 5:53 PM

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goroutines I can't comprende but they are seggc

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 5:53 PM

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they are beyond mere human comprehension

limpid lynx Mar 13, 2021, 5:54 PM

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Good evening does anyone mind just helping me out quickly about litebans material?

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 5:57 PM

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https://dontasktoask.com

Don't ask to ask, just ask

limpid lynx Mar 13, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Noted

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Im currently getting an error on line 430 for the argument foreach() just wondering if there was a fix for this?

hot hull Mar 13, 2021, 5:59 PM

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Is this a development question or?

limpid lynx Mar 13, 2021, 6:00 PM

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not currently but was going to bring up after my appoligies!

hot hull Mar 13, 2021, 6:06 PM

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#general-plugins

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@ocean quartz I found why it wasn't granting the format properly, you forgot a . in the permission, it's triumphchat.chatformatdefault

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:17 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/bqCSeA8.png boi we got console input working

Imgur

hot hull Mar 13, 2021, 6:18 PM

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That #4 :moan:

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:18 PM

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lol

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the command scope has 8 threads backing it

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it seems to pick them in order

static zealot Mar 13, 2021, 6:18 PM

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Frosty please keep your calm and do not, i repeat: DO NOT open #816184749752188958

dawn hinge Mar 13, 2021, 6:19 PM

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Omg

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:19 PM

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Frosty open #816184749752188958

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https://tenor.com/ta7T.gif

Tenor

ocean quartz Mar 13, 2021, 6:19 PM

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hot hull <@!180369172046413824> I found why it wasn't granting the format properly, you f...

Weird, because i gave the dot

dawn hinge Mar 13, 2021, 6:19 PM

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I should have listened

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:20 PM

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oh btw, is +1ing another post allowed in that channel?

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because someone did it

static zealot Mar 13, 2021, 6:20 PM

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nah. asked for removal

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waiting for someone that actually has access to do it

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:20 PM

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you can't yeet messages?

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wow

static zealot Mar 13, 2021, 6:20 PM

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I'm not a moderator

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according to FunnyCube only Trusted roles are moderators

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:21 PM

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also, tell them to delete the other request whilst they're at it KEKW

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that latest abomination lol

static zealot Mar 13, 2021, 6:21 PM

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other request?

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oh you mean the latest service offer?

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:21 PM

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yeah

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I don't wanna spoil it for those who haven't already lost faith in humanity from this server xD

surreal quarry Mar 13, 2021, 6:22 PM

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lmao

forest pecan Mar 13, 2021, 6:22 PM

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i feel like the terrible plugin is at the point where it has so much stuff that isn't even worth calling terrible because its impressive how its not just shitty

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but how much it breaks the server

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lmao

onyx loom Mar 13, 2021, 6:23 PM

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🙂

static zealot Mar 13, 2021, 6:24 PM

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yeah I guess we made it do terrible things but not with terrible code

forest pecan Mar 13, 2021, 6:24 PM

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we're literally using reflection to get the server

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i dont think a beginner even knows how to do that

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xD

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:24 PM

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oh btw, are event priorities a good idea to add?

static zealot Mar 13, 2021, 6:25 PM

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we should have just made it in Sk**** xD

forest pecan Mar 13, 2021, 6:25 PM

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static zealot we should have just made it in Sk\*\*\*\* xD

omg yes

forest pecan Mar 13, 2021, 6:25 PM

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jovial warren oh btw, are event priorities a good idea to add?

yeah for formatting

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:25 PM

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formatting?

static zealot Mar 13, 2021, 6:25 PM

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also I keep saying we but all I did is tell people that they moved when they move xD

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:26 PM

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actually, wouldn't priorities compromise the extensibility of the event manager? since it would know about its listeners

hot hull Mar 13, 2021, 6:26 PM

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ocean quartz Weird, because i gave the dot

debug and see what that prints out

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:33 PM

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still trying to figure out how to write a file to META-INF in Gradle

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actually hold on a minute

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okay yeah I'm officially stupid

hot hull Mar 13, 2021, 6:38 PM

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Took you long enough to figure that out smh

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:40 PM

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took me long enough to figure out that I just had to make a folder in src/main/resources called META-INF and put the file in there yeah

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oh btw, logging to files is now a thing

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oh also, would anyone know why it still seems to create the data folder in the root directory rather than in the plugins folder when I use File(pluginsFolder, description.name) (where pluginsFolder is File(ROOT_FOLDER, "plugins") and ROOT_FOLDER is Path.of("").toAbsolutePath().toFile())

forest pecan Mar 13, 2021, 6:48 PM

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Path.of("").toAbsolutePath().toFile()

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😢

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:48 PM

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it's really weird, since it's able to create that directory and walk it just fine, but it still seems to create the folder relative to the root rather than the plugins folder

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:48 PM

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forest pecan `Path.of("").toAbsolutePath().toFile()`

what's wrong with that lol

forest pecan Mar 13, 2021, 6:48 PM

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looks so wrong idk lol

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:48 PM

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I mean, yes, it's a bit messy, but it works lol

fierce jewel Mar 13, 2021, 6:52 PM

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anyone have plugin for open door with right click ?

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:53 PM

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what?

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I swear right click to open door is a vanilla feature lol

fierce jewel Mar 13, 2021, 6:53 PM

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iron door*

hot hull Mar 13, 2021, 6:53 PM

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That's how you make an motd :kek:

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:54 PM

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hot hull That's how you make an motd :kek:

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

distant sun Mar 13, 2021, 6:54 PM

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ok ..

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:54 PM

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unicode characters

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nah I'm messing lol

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it looks good

hot hull Mar 13, 2021, 6:54 PM

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second line is what matters

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 6:54 PM

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lol i love unicode

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69/666

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thonking

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:54 PM

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hot hull second line is what matters

wait did you find a way to change the MOTD on refresh?

hot hull Mar 13, 2021, 6:54 PM

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actual player count

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 6:54 PM

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man good

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i despise fake player counts

hot hull Mar 13, 2021, 6:54 PM

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I mean can't you just use the ping event for that?

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 6:54 PM

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just lying

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ffs

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:55 PM

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hot hull I mean can't you just use the ping event for that?

probably

forest pecan Mar 13, 2021, 6:56 PM

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Sir this is #dev-general

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:56 PM

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Sir this is #dev-general

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 6:56 PM

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Sir this is #off-topic

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 6:56 PM

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https://tenor.com/uhfw.gif

Tenor

nick young

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heady birch Mar 13, 2021, 7:05 PM

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I think event priorities are pretty important

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 7:11 PM

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yeah they are, not sure how I would do them though

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update with command dispatching has just been rolled out btw

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 7:17 PM

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heady birch I think event priorities are pretty important

also, there isn't even any events yet anyway lol

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probably gonna add those now

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@prisma wave you know a way of doing event priorities with my current reactive setup? or are they pretty much impossible because I have no record of the listeners

tropic cypress Mar 13, 2021, 7:19 PM

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Is that channel true for asking an error about building a server software?

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 7:19 PM

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what?

tropic cypress Mar 13, 2021, 7:20 PM

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what what

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Let me explain

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 7:20 PM

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please do 🙂

tropic cypress Mar 13, 2021, 7:20 PM

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I downloaded a GitHub repo or something else, I don't know what are you calling that

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than it says "download maven and git" in that page

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I did

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than it said "use ./sportpaper build" to build that server software

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so I did

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and I got an error

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 7:21 PM

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what is the error?

tropic cypress Mar 13, 2021, 7:21 PM

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https://srcb.in/yEt5j1O6Yw

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that's

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 7:22 PM

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liking the Linux 👌

tropic cypress Mar 13, 2021, 7:23 PM

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what

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 7:23 PM

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okay, so it's looking for things that don't exist

tropic cypress Mar 13, 2021, 7:23 PM

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hmm

prisma wave Mar 13, 2021, 7:23 PM

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jovial warren <@!266973575225933824> you know a way of doing event priorities with my current ...

Priorities don't really make sense if everything is immutable?

tropic cypress Mar 13, 2021, 7:23 PM

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yes I decided that too

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 7:23 PM

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prisma wave Priorities don't really make sense if everything is immutable?

very valid point (@heady birch)

old wyvern Mar 13, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Bukkit priorities be like: Oh? You're supposed to be of high priority? Go to the back of the queue, PEASANT!

dawn hinge Mar 13, 2021, 7:24 PM

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Lmao

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 7:24 PM

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KEKW

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Bukkit team be like:

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https://tenor.com/oZZh.gif

Tenor

Huh

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tropic cypress Mar 13, 2021, 7:24 PM

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so what should I do 😄

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 7:25 PM

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tropic cypress so what should I do 😄

make sure you're cloning it properly I would say

tropic cypress Mar 13, 2021, 7:25 PM

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I just did 😐

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 9:19 PM

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oh btw, anyone got any idea how I should do cancellable events?

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since atm, isCancelled is mutable (it's @Volatile)

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should I store the event and then check if it's been cancelled after I call it?

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though that could cause race conditions, since multiple plugins could receive the event from the flow at the same time and write different values

lunar cypress Mar 13, 2021, 9:54 PM

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yeah no with that model there is no way to await plugins' responses to events

prisma wave Mar 13, 2021, 9:54 PM

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Volatile avoids race conditions

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afaik

lunar cypress Mar 13, 2021, 9:54 PM

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volatile does not avoid race conditions at all

prisma wave Mar 13, 2021, 9:54 PM

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Oh nvm I forgot what a race condition is lol

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 9:55 PM

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uhhh

lunar cypress Mar 13, 2021, 9:55 PM

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it prevents threads from interleaving and ensures a before and after relation on a field

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 9:55 PM

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vroom vroom

lunar cypress Mar 13, 2021, 9:55 PM

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The race condition here is in the design

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you'll have to find a different way to handle this

prisma wave Mar 13, 2021, 9:55 PM

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Yeah

lunar cypress Mar 13, 2021, 9:58 PM

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the problem is that there is no coordination anymore

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and to coordinate you have to take time into account

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Take some time to think this through

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What does it mean to receive an event in a minecraft server and what does it mean to cancel it?

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Well, what you have, in essence, is actually two different, separate actions

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the server receives the event
the server sends a response in some way to realise the effects

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now, if everything is asynchronous and we use Flow, we can't just put the plugin inbetween and have it be responsible for both ends

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You somehow need to make an extra, synchronous hook, maybe separate

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 11:00 PM

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yo, I'm trying to get the entity that was damaged, using the event "entity damaged by entity"

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I know how to get the damager

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how can I get the damaged?

old wyvern Mar 13, 2021, 11:00 PM

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getEntity afaik

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 11:00 PM

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oh, nice

ruby craterBOT Mar 13, 2021, 11:02 PM

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org.bukkit.event.entity.EntityEvent#getEntity

@NotNull
public Entity getEntity()```

Description:

Returns the Entity involved in this event

Returns:

Entity who is involved in this event

regal gale Mar 13, 2021, 11:03 PM

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d;spigot EntityDamageByEntityEvent#getEntity

ruby craterBOT Mar 13, 2021, 11:03 PM

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org.bukkit.event.entity.EntityEvent#getEntity

@NotNull
public Entity getEntity()```

Description:

Returns the Entity involved in this event

Returns:

Entity who is involved in this event

regal gale Mar 13, 2021, 11:03 PM

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There

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EntityDamageByEntityEvent extends EntityEvent, so that method can be used

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 11:04 PM

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I see

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thank you, I'll try using It

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all right, It works!

oblique heath Mar 13, 2021, 11:15 PM

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hello humans

forest pecan Mar 13, 2021, 11:16 PM

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hello homo sapien

oblique heath Mar 13, 2021, 11:17 PM

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any nginx gurus out there to tell me what i'm doing wrong here?
the goal is to display an image when someone visits https://example.com

server {
        listen 443 ssl;
        server_name ~^example.com;

        ssl_certificate          /etc/nginx/ssl/example.com.cert;
        ssl_certificate_key      /etc/nginx/ssl/example.com.key;

        location / {
            try_files /data/test.jpg =404;
        }
     }

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the /data/test.jpg exists in that location, and ssl works

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 11:22 PM

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do u own example.com?

oblique heath Mar 13, 2021, 11:23 PM

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i own the site that i am actually trying to display the image on

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 11:23 PM

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just use an index.html and have a body that is just an image tag

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that would be much easier

oblique heath Mar 13, 2021, 11:23 PM

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;-;

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 11:23 PM

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really

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much easier, and much more sensible

oblique heath Mar 13, 2021, 11:23 PM

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well i suppose that's what i'll end up doing

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but is there not a way to have it straight up display the image, without an html file

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 11:25 PM

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I'm sure that is

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but to be frank

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that would be odd

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u can just do a normal nginx config

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and in the default pages list thingy

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but the image b4 the others

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so it prioritises that

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I cant tell ya how specifically

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I forgot lol

oblique heath Mar 13, 2021, 11:26 PM

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xd all good, i'll look into default pages

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thank you 😄

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(and i'll probably still end up using the index.html)

stuck harbor Mar 13, 2021, 11:26 PM

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lol yeah

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but the standard index.html implementation

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u can adapt that

oblique heath Mar 13, 2021, 11:33 PM

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i.. set the image as the index.html

 root /data/;
 index test.jpg;

victory is mine!!1

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 11:39 PM

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yo

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I'm trying to create a task, like this:

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BukkitTask taskPrincipal = new coolDownHealWeapon(this).runTaskTimer(this, 0L, 10L);

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however, I'm not on the main class

forest pecan Mar 13, 2021, 11:40 PM

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coolDownHealWeapon

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naming conventions

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 11:40 PM

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Isn't it right?

forest pecan Mar 13, 2021, 11:40 PM

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CoolDownHealWeapon

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upper camel case for variables

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for class names its different

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all words are capitlized

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 11:40 PM

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oh, makes sense

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but, for my problem, how should I pass the parameter for the construction? I assume that, because I passed "this", I'm passing a variable which is an object of my class

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However, It's giving me an error, on "this", that says: "Required type: Plugin, Provided: Protetor"

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Protetor is my class name

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I don't really understand why It requires "Plugin", since on my constructor, I have a Protetor

ocean quartz Mar 13, 2021, 11:44 PM

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You'll need your plugin's instance, so you'll need to use dependency injection to get it

forest pecan Mar 13, 2021, 11:44 PM

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^

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when you use this, you are referring to a current instance of the current class

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it doesn't point to the actual Plugin instance you need

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therefore

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?di

compact perchBOT Mar 13, 2021, 11:45 PM

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FAQ Answer:

Dependency Injection
Dependency Injection is a way of providing objects with the objects they need ("dependencies"). This is usually done with a constructor, but can also be done for individual methods
Read more here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependency_injection

Dependency Injection in Java:
https://paste.helpch.at/yijawupoju.java

Dependency Injection in Kotlin:
https://paste.helpch.at/esogakutod.kt

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 11:45 PM

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oh

forest pecan Mar 13, 2021, 11:45 PM

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use the variable for the constructor

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 11:46 PM

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so, instead of this particular object, I need to pass a Plugin instance, that is, an instance of my main class?

forest pecan Mar 13, 2021, 11:47 PM

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yes

ocean quartz Mar 13, 2021, 11:47 PM

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Yes an instance of the main class

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 11:47 PM

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oh, I see. In my last plugin, I also used this, but on my main class, so It worked

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now that makes sense

forest pecan Mar 13, 2021, 11:47 PM

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Yeah

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 11:47 PM

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thanks!

forest pecan Mar 13, 2021, 11:47 PM

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cause your main class extends JavaPlugin

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 11:48 PM

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ooooh

forest pecan Mar 13, 2021, 11:48 PM

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and that has Plugin as parent

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so you can refer this

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in that case

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 11:48 PM

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I see

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I'll try to apply it, thanks again you two

ocean quartz Mar 13, 2021, 11:48 PM

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Also #development is the support channel ;p

paper kite Mar 13, 2021, 11:48 PM

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wait... oh

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I have been using the wrong one

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well then, sorry

ocean quartz Mar 13, 2021, 11:49 PM

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It's alright ;p

jovial warren Mar 13, 2021, 11:57 PM

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think I finally figured out what's up with the plugins folder whack

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for some reason, it seems to be null when load is called (called inside of a forEach inside of the apply block)

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okay yeah, maybe rule #1 of using apply is to not use the field from a function that's called within the apply block

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 12:14 AM

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ocean quartz It's alright ;p

'til it's not 🔫

half harness Mar 14, 2021, 12:15 AM

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fefo

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help me

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plz

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 12:15 AM

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I can't help if you don't tell me what you need help with

half harness Mar 14, 2021, 12:15 AM

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obtuse gale I can't help if you don't tell me what you need help with

is it possible to remove suggestions

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so like instead of it being bob fefo /kill it's ```
fefo
/kill

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 12:16 AM

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Yes

half harness Mar 14, 2021, 12:16 AM

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oooooooooooooo

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how?

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 12:17 AM

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If I'm not mistaken there is even a tab complete event

half harness Mar 14, 2021, 12:17 AM

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obtuse gale If I'm not mistaken there is even a tab complete event

wait

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what about like this:

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 12:17 AM

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d;methods spigot TabCompleteEvent

ruby craterBOT Mar 14, 2021, 12:17 AM

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org.bukkit.event.server.TabCompleteEvent

Methods:

org.bukkit.event.server.TabCompleteEvent#getBuffer
org.bukkit.event.server.TabCompleteEvent#getSender
org.bukkit.event.server.TabCompleteEvent#getHandlerList
org.bukkit.event.server.TabCompleteEvent#setCompletions
org.bukkit.event.server.TabCompleteEvent#setCancelled
org.bukkit.event.server.TabCompleteEvent#getHandlers
org.bukkit.event.server.TabCompleteEvent#TabCompleteEvent
org.bukkit.event.server.TabCompleteEvent#isCancelled
org.bukkit.event.server.TabCompleteEvent#getCompletions```

half harness Mar 14, 2021, 12:17 AM

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 kill
 killl
 killll
/kil
```into ```
 kill
 killl
/kil

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all the events only support the argument tab completers

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 12:19 AM

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I don't think those (command names) are in the tab complete event, but you can listen to PlayerCommandSendEvent if you want to change which commands clients can see (doesn't mean they won't be able to run the command, if they have perms it will work)

static zealot Mar 14, 2021, 1:27 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/JWUWSY5.png

Imgur

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Soon™️ community is expanding every day

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 2:22 AM

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If I have a plugin as a jar that i made that i loss the source code, can I convert that back into kotlin source code?

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Or do I somehow have to manage to edit the decompiuled kotlinj cod

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 2:26 AM

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you could try inputting the decompiled java into intellij

half harness Mar 14, 2021, 2:50 AM

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obtuse gale If I have a plugin as a jar that i made that i loss the source code, can I conve...

ur doomed

oblique heath Mar 14, 2021, 3:54 AM

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i think i have officially broken discord image embeds

half harness Mar 14, 2021, 3:55 AM

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uh

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wot

oblique heath Mar 14, 2021, 3:55 AM

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click on that

half harness Mar 14, 2021, 3:55 AM

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thonking

oblique heath Mar 14, 2021, 3:55 AM

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zoom in on it

half harness Mar 14, 2021, 3:55 AM

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how

oblique heath Mar 14, 2021, 3:55 AM

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lmao

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try visiting that link too

half harness Mar 14, 2021, 3:57 AM

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.jfif?

oblique heath Mar 14, 2021, 3:57 AM

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jfif is just a jpg

hot heron Mar 14, 2021, 6:50 AM

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half harness ``` kill killl killll /kil ```into ``` kill killl /kil ```

You get this figured out?

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 7:22 AM

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obtuse gale If I have a plugin as a jar that i made that i loss the source code, can I conve...

Rip

hot hull Mar 14, 2021, 7:24 AM

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Aj had the same thing happen to me on the old pc, took 14 hours to remake it but was worth it in the end

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 7:29 AM

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Do anyone here know how to make something like #showcase?

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Pirate one

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What it use?

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 9:40 AM

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https://twitter.com/thingskatedid/status/1370862460735868928?s=19

Kate (@thingskatedid)

int a[3];

What kind of data structure is this?
That's right, it's an array. It goes in the array hole.

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What the hell

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 9:42 AM

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lmao

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 9:46 AM

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The last two are just pure evil

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Btw i've tried benchmarking the persistent collections and I've found out that it doesn't make much sense when my CPU reaches its limit in any benchmark lol

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I need someone with a more potent cpu to execute these

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 9:51 AM

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I can try

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send what you want benchmarked

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 9:58 AM

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so far it's just two very small benchmarks, but I just wanna see if you'd get other results

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https://github.com/JohnnyJayJay/persistent-data-structures-benchmark

GitHub

JohnnyJayJay/persistent-data-structures-benchmark

A benchmark of different persistent data structures across JVM libraries and languages - JohnnyJayJay/persistent-data-structures-benchmark

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clone & ./gradlew jmh

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 9:58 AM

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Alrighty, one min

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 9:58 AM

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i'll give it a run too

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get some variation going on

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 9:59 AM

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might take a while, haven't configured much (it's probably not representative of the actual performance right now)

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 9:59 AM

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should I be closing other stuff before running this?

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 10:00 AM

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maybe

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depends on how much your machine can handle

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:00 AM

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I assume it'll be fine

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lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 10:01 AM

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I hope it will be fine for you lol

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if not I definitely need to adjust some settings

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:01 AM

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only things I've got open that'd be using cpu is discord & chrome (quite a few tabs, but only one is doing anything, youtube is playing a vid)

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 10:02 AM

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thanks for helping me out, appreciate it

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I'll be gone for an hour or two now

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:03 AM

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aight

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how long does this take on your machine?

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its been running for about 4 mins now

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 10:03 AM

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18 mins

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:03 AM

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oh okie

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 10:04 AM

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5 forks, each 5 iterations (+ warmup) with probably millions of method calls each

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:04 AM

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wonder if it would go faster if I was using oracle jdk

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 10:04 AM

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you should be able to see the current progress in build/jmh/results.txt

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:04 AM

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Oh wow that's a big benchmark lol

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 10:05 AM

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yeah lol it's the default settings

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:05 AM

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it's on fork 3

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 10:05 AM

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I will adjust this more because it's probably not the right fit for this

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:05 AM

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You gonna add the kotlin impl too?

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:06 AM

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johnny before you go, just wait for this to finish, should be done in a few mins

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:07 AM

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clojure might actually be faster here no?

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:07 AM

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bm I think he's using kotlin and clojure

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I saw both being downloaded by gradle when I ran it

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haven't actually looked at any of the code tho

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:07 AM

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And it’s gone.

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:07 AM

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the kotlin might just be for the buildscript or something

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The source is just clojure + java

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 10:08 AM

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So far I only have clojure vs default java collections

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:08 AM

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the variation in these iterations is huge

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:08 AM

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Oh no you're depending on kotlin, just not using it

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Right

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 10:08 AM

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And only list/vec and only adding

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:08 AM

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yeah

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:08 AM

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Ok I was wondering why ij was showing every class as not found

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 10:09 AM

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This was just the initial test to see if it even runs

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:09 AM

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for somereason ti thought this used the haskell sdk xD

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:09 AM

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lmao

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:09 AM

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Is Javascripts easy?

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:09 AM

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yes

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:09 AM

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Yep

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:09 AM

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I learn Javascripts from Mimo apps

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:09 AM

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oh for fuck sakes

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I thought it was done

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turns out that was only one benchmark

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:09 AM

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Why?

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:09 AM

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not talking to you lyzen

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:10 AM

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Ouhh okey

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:10 AM

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They are doing benchmarks

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For fun

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 10:10 AM

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quiet depot the variation in these iterations is huge

Yeah, I don't know why that is but I presume in clojure's case there's increasingly more work with larger structures

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:10 AM

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obtuse gale I learn Javascripts from Mimo apps

Bad thing or no?

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:10 AM

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obtuse gale Is Javascripts easy?

Easier than most languages

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:10 AM

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Doesn’t matter how you learn

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As long as you learn what you need

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:10 AM

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prisma wave Easier than most languages

Really? I learn about Var.. & Console.log()

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Still new actually

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:10 AM

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Some are better or worse

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:11 AM

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My personal opinion is that JS and Python are the 2 easiest "mainstream" languages

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:11 AM

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Any language with “var” is naturally an easier language

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:11 AM

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Most people would probably agree

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:11 AM

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mhm

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:11 AM

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I’d agree with that

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:11 AM

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oak coyote Any language with “var” is naturally an easier language

Ouhh

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:11 AM

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Not as easy to learn as Elara tho

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dw

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 10:11 AM

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oak coyote Any language with “var” is naturally an easier language

Java has var :)

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:11 AM

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it's also worth noting that the two easiest mainstream languages, are also arguably the worst languages ever design wise (except perhaps php)

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:11 AM

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But do you ever use it 😂😂

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:12 AM

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yeah you mean dynamically typed languages

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 10:12 AM

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Yeah actually

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:12 AM

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old wyvern Not as easy to learn as Elara tho

Monads are famously easy to learn 🥲

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:12 AM

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Thanks for the info

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:12 AM

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bm do u understand monads

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:12 AM

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My target is to be awesome Javascripter

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:12 AM

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B

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:12 AM

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thanks to you lot i've been getting fp vids in my recommended

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:12 AM

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quiet depot bm do u understand monads

Barely

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I have a vague idea of what they are

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:13 AM

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prisma wave Monads are famously easy to learn 🥲

Deffo

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:13 AM

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quiet depot thanks to you lot i've been getting fp vids in my recommended

Amazing!

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:13 AM

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Javascripts can make a games?

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:13 AM

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Join the gang!

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:13 AM

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no

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and yes lyzen

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:13 AM

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Ditch Java

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:13 AM

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Damn

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:13 AM

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java best lang

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:13 AM

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Ditch impurity

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:14 AM

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Imma do hack gui

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:14 AM

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Embrace the pureness

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:14 AM

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Jk jk

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:14 AM

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(lets ignore liftIO for now :))

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:14 AM

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lyzen when I said yes I meant little web games

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:14 AM

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Some hacked clients are coded in JS

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:14 AM

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quiet depot lyzen when I said yes I meant little web games

Ouhh..

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:14 AM

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APL is among the easiest programming languages to learn

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:14 AM

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Most are C++ or C#

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:14 AM

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are you talking about minecraft jerry?

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:14 AM

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Normalise functional game frameworks

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:14 AM

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To make games use C++?

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:14 AM

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or other games

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:14 AM

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And then the rest are typically Java

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:14 AM

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obtuse gale To make games use C++?

Usually yes

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:14 AM

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yeah desktop games are usually c++ lyzen

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:15 AM

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Thanks

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:15 AM

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9 times out of 10 it's c++

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:15 AM

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or c#

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:15 AM

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Ehh kinda just hacked clients as a whole

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:15 AM

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You guys are aweome

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:15 AM

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CPU utilization jumping around

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lmao

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:15 AM

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jerry minecraft hacked clients are pretty much all java

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:15 AM

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Not the ^ ghost ones

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They are typically not java to hide them better

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As of course most developers know java

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:15 AM

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sounds rather counter intuitive

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:16 AM

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piggy

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:16 AM

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I mean for hiding sure

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:16 AM

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Did it end?

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:16 AM

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but why are you hiding it?

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no

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still going

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:16 AM

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Ghost clients...

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:16 AM

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lmao

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:16 AM

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So... After I learned about Javascripts.. Is it same to use it for Scripts or Denizen plugin?

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:16 AM

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oak coyote They are typically not java to hide them better

do you have a source / example for that?

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:16 AM

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did yours finish?

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:16 AM

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Nope

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I just started like a minute ago

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:16 AM

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what's the purpose of a ghost client? Is it for client side anti cheats?

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:16 AM

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I might have source to some around

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:16 AM

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I didn't think anyone actually played on servers that used those

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:16 AM

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screensharing I think

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:16 AM

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quiet depot what's the purpose of a ghost client? Is it for client side anti cheats?

minor hacks

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:16 AM

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idk it's dumb

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:16 AM

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wtf

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:17 AM

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obtuse gale So... After I learned about Javascripts.. Is it same to use it for Scripts or De...

thonking1

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:17 AM

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what hacked client doesn't have a keybind that disables it

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literally every hacked client ever has that

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:17 AM

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You realise screensharing is a thing in those places

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:17 AM

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Basically gives you a slight unnoticable advantage and make the UI look like a vanilla client so people dont easily understand

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:17 AM

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obtuse gale So... After I learned about Javascripts.. Is it same to use it for Scripts or De...

thonking1

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:18 AM

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obtuse gale So... After I learned about Javascripts.. Is it same to use it for Scripts or De...

I suggest you try: https://www.haskell.org/

Haskell Language

The Haskell purely functional programming language home page.

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:18 AM

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quiet depot what hacked client doesn't have a keybind that disables it

that won’t work you will still have Strings

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:18 AM

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wym?

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:18 AM

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Strings from process hacker can be used to detect its residue

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:18 AM

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old wyvern I suggest you try: https://www.haskell.org/

Thank you alert fingerguns

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:18 AM

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what does that sentence mean

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what is a process hacker

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:19 AM

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An SS tool

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Well not really meant for it

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But good for it

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:19 AM

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god people need to get a life

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:19 AM

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you will still have Strings What?

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:19 AM

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Basically yeah

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:19 AM

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code

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:20 AM

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ok

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still not sure what a process hacker is

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it's an ss tool, what does it do?

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:20 AM

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It’s just a tool

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:20 AM

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oh hey my thing finished

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:20 AM

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https://processhacker.sourceforge.io/

Overview - Process Hacker

Process Hacker, A free, powerful, multi-purpose tool that helps you monitor system resources, debug software and detect malware.

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:20 AM

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Not necessarily for SSing

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It’s purpose of creation was different

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:20 AM

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uhh

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:20 AM

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But it’s good at it

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:20 AM

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Eh

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:21 AM

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this would only detect your ghost clients

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it's impossible for something like this to detect a proper java client, because they're literally part of the game

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:21 AM

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Is that not the exact same info you would get from the task manager 🙂

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:21 AM

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whereas a ghost client is a separate executable

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:21 AM

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You also have lastactivityviewer

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:21 AM

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Yeah this doesn't make sense

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:21 AM

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And a few other methods

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:21 AM

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Bruh

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:21 AM

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It’s a crazy community

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:21 AM

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Ghost client bad, Ghost processor good

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:22 AM

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I’ll tell you that

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:22 AM

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god it's like script kiddies developed the perfect formula for catching a hacker, by mixing together a bunch of shit they've got no understanding of

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:22 AM

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Yeah it’s odd

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:22 AM

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these people need to go outside

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:22 AM

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and make a career change

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obviously IT isn't their forte

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:22 AM

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They have started to create dedicated SS tools if you really want to say that

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:22 AM

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I open my pc and connect a circuit board that MaKes be SuPeR KeTonE InduCed AdredaLinE DestrCtin Bridge with 250K CPS in a block game

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🙂

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:22 AM

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It’s odd

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:23 AM

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aight

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yugi how do I view these results

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:23 AM

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old wyvern I open my pc and connect a circuit board that MaKes be SuPeR KeTonE InduCed Adre...

Imagine the server trying to process that many packets per second

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:24 AM

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We use STRONGLY typed immutable JAVAScript frameworks to ensure your ULTRA KB hacks are 100% UNDETECTABLE

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:24 AM

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i bet the people doing the ss shit are the kind of people that use a vpn to improve ping

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:24 AM

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Lmao

oak coyote Mar 14, 2021, 10:24 AM

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They do use vpns typically

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It’s an odd community

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:24 AM

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quiet depot yugi how do I view these results

Uh not sure, more info might be here https://github.com/melix/jmh-gradle-plugin

GitHub

melix/jmh-gradle-plugin

Integrates the JMH benchmarking framework with Gradle - melix/jmh-gradle-plugin

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:25 AM

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like the results.txt file had easy to understand stuff

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then when the task finished it got converted to some bytecode I don't understand

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:25 AM

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huh

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:25 AM

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oak coyote Imagine the server trying to process that many packets per second

Nah man, It takes over the server

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I run the server now

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:25 AM

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📎 results.txt

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:25 AM

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😎

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:26 AM

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surely the server would just disconnect you if you sent that much data

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:26 AM

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Java good? 😮

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:26 AM

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🥲

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:26 AM

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By 4k ns??

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NO!!!

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:26 AM

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Pretty impressive for clojure considering

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I wonder how java linkedlist would compare

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:27 AM

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Didnt the test include the kotlin persistent collections implementation??

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:27 AM

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Don't think so

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:27 AM

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ah

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:30 AM

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I think my results got corrupted

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gonna try running it again

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:30 AM

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wdym?

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:30 AM

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well

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there aren't any results

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:30 AM

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Where were the results btw?

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oh?

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:30 AM

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build/results/jmh

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:30 AM

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ah alrighty

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:31 AM

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there's a results.txt file but it's just bytecode

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:31 AM

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weird

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🙂

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Also, did IJ start to just casually consume more RAM in newer versions?

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Seems it takes like 1.5 to 2gb on idle for me rn

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:33 AM

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1.5 - 2gb sounds about right

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do you have the memory indicator turned on in ij?

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:33 AM

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Nope

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What is that?

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:33 AM

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it indicates memory usage

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:33 AM

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ah

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:33 AM

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wot de fuck

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:33 AM

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oh the benchmark ended

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:34 AM

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my ij license expired

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:34 AM

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welp, I mean reappling should take less than a day to be accepted with them so

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:34 AM

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Yeah you have to renew it every year iirc

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:35 AM

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@lunar cypress ```
Benchmark Mode Cnt Score Error Units
ClojureCollections.benchmarkVec avgt 18 138092.658 ± 111312.453 ns/op
JavaCollections.benchmarkArrayList avgt 25 27507.548 ± 17950.582 ns/op

😮

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😮

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:35 AM

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oh wow

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:35 AM

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tf

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xD

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:35 AM

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ez flex

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:35 AM

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What is that?

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:36 AM

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report for a subject I do at school

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:36 AM

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Ah

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:36 AM

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rank is out of a cohort of 27

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only been at school for like 7 weeks so doesn't really mean anything

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:36 AM

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gj man

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You're in year 12 right?

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:37 AM

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somewhere around there

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:37 AM

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mm

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 10:50 AM

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@old wyvern memory indicator

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:52 AM

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Where to view my Server?

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If it Lag or not?

hot hull Mar 14, 2021, 10:53 AM

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what version

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:53 AM

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Me?

hot hull Mar 14, 2021, 10:53 AM

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Yes

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:53 AM

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quiet depot <@!235475470806679554> memory indicator

ah

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So I assume task manager is showing the allocated memory and ij is showing whats actually being used of that?

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:54 AM

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1.16.5@hot hull

hot hull Mar 14, 2021, 10:54 AM

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then it lag

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:54 AM

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obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:54 AM

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Why is it so?

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What the best? Paper? Yatopia? Purpur?

hot hull Mar 14, 2021, 10:55 AM

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Paper, never used purpur, so no clue what it fixes/adds

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:55 AM

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Ouhh

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I used paper and people always said Yatopia is guud

hot hull Mar 14, 2021, 10:56 AM

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Forget Yatopia exists btw, complete abomination

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:56 AM

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I used Paper since 2018

dawn hinge Mar 14, 2021, 10:56 AM

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I heard purpur offers more performance but it's not as stable as paper

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:56 AM

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🥲

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:56 AM

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Yea I reember glare saying purpur is nice

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:57 AM

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For me Paper is the best Software for the Server

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:57 AM

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Altho when I first saw it my impression was just "The dude make a fork for just entity mounts?!"

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Tuinity is great btw

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:57 AM

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Really?

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:57 AM

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Yea

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:58 AM

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Okey

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:58 AM

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prisma wave

What in the bloody fuck happened on my laptop xD

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100k ns

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:58 AM

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lmao

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:58 AM

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Do you mind if we are friend? @old wyvern, @prisma wave, @hot hull &@quiet depot?

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 10:59 AM

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uh

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Sure but why lol

hot hull Mar 14, 2021, 10:59 AM

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I do mind, who u

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:59 AM

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Cool fingerguns

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:59 AM

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hot hull I do mind, who u

Someone that want to learn about Javascripts

hot hull Mar 14, 2021, 10:59 AM

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ew

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 10:59 AM

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Sure man

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 10:59 AM

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I am not a bad people btw

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I am 17

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:00 AM

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All you'll get from Frosty is shit lol

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 11:00 AM

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There

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 11:00 AM

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Elm > javascript

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:00 AM

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Surprised that "jump off a cliff" hasn't come out yet lol

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 11:01 AM

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Lol

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:01 AM

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hot hull ew

You're ew lol

dawn hinge Mar 14, 2021, 11:01 AM

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Yeah 😄 👍

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 11:01 AM

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Haskell > JS 🙂

hot hull Mar 14, 2021, 11:01 AM

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Bardy

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go cliff jumping

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fingerguns

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 11:02 AM

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@dawn hinge Do you mind?

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:02 AM

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Make me Frosty

dawn hinge Mar 14, 2021, 11:02 AM

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Not at all

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 11:02 AM

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Aw

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 11:03 AM

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wtf

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 11:04 AM

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Wait.. wtf

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:04 AM

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Oml

hot hull Mar 14, 2021, 11:05 AM

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jovial warren Make me Frosty

I wanna go skydiving sad_fingerguns

obtuse gale Mar 14, 2021, 11:05 AM

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reversed_fingerguns

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:06 AM

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hot hull I wanna go skydiving <:sad_fingerguns:737200358694060123>

Might make the world a better place fingerguns

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I'm messing lol

hot hull Mar 14, 2021, 11:07 AM

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oh wow

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but nah seriously, I wanna go skydiving at some point

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 11:11 AM

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quiet depot

thanks, that seems to confirm my expectations

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 11:12 AM

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i ran it again, not at my pc rn tho, will check soon to see if the new results are scuffed

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 11:12 AM

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I got similar proportions to BM, so his machine probably bottlenecked it as well

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 11:12 AM

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wait are those results that I uploaded usable for you?

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How did you read them?

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 11:13 AM

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Mine were weirder john

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Benchmark                           Mode  Cnt       Score        Error  Units
ClojureCollections.benchmarkVec     avgt   18  138092.658 ± 111312.453  ns/op
JavaCollections.benchmarkArrayList  avgt   25   27507.548 ±  17950.582  ns/op

💀

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 11:13 AM

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well "usable" in this scope, yeah

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 11:13 AM

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they’re corrupted right?

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 11:14 AM

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how so?

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 11:14 AM

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it’s bytecode

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and most of it is zeros

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 11:14 AM

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oh, idk what the zeros are, but the data at the top is the result

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 11:14 AM

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lunar cypress I got similar proportions to BM, so his machine probably bottlenecked it as well

yeah i was at full CPU most of the way through that

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 11:14 AM

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old wyvern ``` Benchmark Mode Cnt Score Error Unit...

that is very interesting

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RAM limitations?

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 11:15 AM

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wdym?

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I had ij open if that affects this ig

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RAM wasnt full

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CPU was at 100% for some time tho

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the process was using like 6gb ram I think

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:16 AM

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Wait what's this?

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 11:17 AM

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a benchmark of persistent collections

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 11:17 AM

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running on my vps atm

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 11:17 AM

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old wyvern wdym?

I don't really see where the huge gap comes from

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 11:18 AM

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Yea same

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 11:18 AM

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although it's weird that cnt is only 18

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should be 25

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 11:19 AM

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Then again, it reported an error of 100K+ so maybe* a certain operation or something just spiked for a small amount of time which affected the final results

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Whats cnt?

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 11:20 AM

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sample count

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in this case it uses everything

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so 5 forks * 5 iterations

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 11:21 AM

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ah

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 11:23 AM

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Ok great, I think I'll write a proper benchmark perhaps even using bfs as the test

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with a kotlin, clojure and java implementation

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:28 AM

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Ooh

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Can I run it when I get home?

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I wanna see how it benchmarks on my Ryzen 7 3700X 32 GB RAM semi monster machine lol

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 11:28 AM

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Subtle flex

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:29 AM

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Big flex now

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xD

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Oh also, thinking about performance, you know there's actually a legitimate reason why running a Minecraft server on Windows is bad

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 11:31 AM

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Yes, its not written in Haskell

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 11:31 AM

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Too much mutablility

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:31 AM

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Windows doesn't have native IO, unlike Linux, Mac and FreeBSD

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 11:31 AM

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prisma wave Too much mutablility

^

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 11:31 AM

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classic windows

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:31 AM

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So you use NIO on Windows

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 11:32 AM

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What windows needs is IO String s!

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:32 AM

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Especially with Kryptin as well, since Krypton supports KQueue (Mac/FreeBSD), Epoll (Linux) and IO Uring (Linux 5.2+)

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Vanilla supports Epoll, so it's still better to use Linux

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But with Krypton, it'll run much faster on Linux, then faster on Mac/FreeBSD, then (comparatively) slow on Windows

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 11:34 AM

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old wyvern What windows needs is `IO String `s!

Microsoft monad 🥰

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:34 AM

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Lol

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 11:34 AM

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edge :: Microsoft Chrome

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:34 AM

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What if Windows was a monad

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😮

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 11:35 AM

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Maybe it is

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 11:35 AM

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Maybe you are

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:35 AM

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Maybe

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 11:35 AM

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jovial warren Maybe

lmao

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:35 AM

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Oh btw, does Elara have monads?

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 11:35 AM

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Maybe

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:35 AM

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old wyvern lmao

That was a response to BM lol

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 11:35 AM

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xd

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 11:35 AM

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jovial warren That was a response to BM lol

Thats not it bard

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Maybe

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:36 AM

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Lol

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 11:36 AM

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https://hackage.haskell.org/package/base-4.14.1.0/docs/Data-Maybe.html

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🙂

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 11:36 AM

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jovial warren Oh btw, does Elara have monads?

Just ()

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 11:36 AM

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You live in the matrix that is Haskell

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:36 AM

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Lol

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 11:36 AM

#

prisma wave Just ()

Ooo

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 11:44 AM

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jovial warren I wanna see how it benchmarks on my Ryzen 7 3700X 32 GB RAM semi monster machine...

5800x 🥱

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 12:29 PM

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winter iron 5800x 🥱

Even bigger flex

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What's the 5800X like? Because I think the 3700X is already stupid enough

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 12:38 PM

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ark at max settings is using about 17%

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cpu

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 12:38 PM

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because ark is the pinnacle of optimized software

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 12:38 PM

#

yes

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 12:38 PM

#

graphics settings don't really impact cpu usage all that much

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 12:39 PM

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thats just the game i am on rn

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other than that

#

watch dogs legion runs smooth as fuck

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 12:39 PM

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quiet depot because ark is the pinnacle of optimized software

Lol

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 12:39 PM

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run it through docdex, see how long it takes to index

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d;info

ruby craterBOT Mar 14, 2021, 12:39 PM

#

DocDex | Info

Website | Github | Invite

DocDex (Documentation Index) is a bot developed using JDA and Java 11, which can display information on javadoc objects, from a fuzzy query.

Creator

PiggyPiglet#5609

Servers

20 (37,447 Users)

Javadocs

93 (Default: jdk)

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 12:39 PM

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93 javadocs

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 12:39 PM

#

how do i do

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 12:39 PM

#

lots of effort

#

probably not worth it

#

it'll use 100% on all cores though

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 12:39 PM

#

sounds good to me

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 12:39 PM

#

93 Javadocs + 1 KDoc soon™️

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 12:39 PM

#

93 docs 🥱

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 12:40 PM

#

with a 5800X there is no useful information that you can get from games anymore

#

a 3600 can handle almost any game already

#

the rest is up to the gpu

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 12:40 PM

#

im running a 3080 with it too, i bought an entirely new pc cause i had a amd fx 8350 and 1070

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and it just wasnt enough

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to do anything

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 12:40 PM

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a 1070 is still a decent gpu

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 12:40 PM

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shit kept freezing tryna build jars

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ye

#

its the cpu

#

so outdated

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 12:41 PM

#

3080

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jesus

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 12:41 PM

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but to get a new cpu i need a new motherboard ram etc

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 12:41 PM

#

ye

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 12:41 PM

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so i just went all out with new build

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 12:41 PM

#

do you at least play in 4k

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 12:41 PM

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no

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i dont got a 4k monitor

#

LOLLLLLL

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 12:41 PM

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wasted lmao

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 12:41 PM

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lol i have a 2080ti and I don't play in 4k either

#

1920x1080 monitor

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 12:41 PM

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What does DocDex use to index Javadocs btw?

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 12:41 PM

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only 60 hz

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 12:41 PM

#

same

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 12:41 PM

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you all are wasting your money holy shit

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 12:41 PM

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nah

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 12:41 PM

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flex is worth it

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 12:42 PM

#

i wanna get a 1440p 144hz

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 12:42 PM

#

@jovial warren jsoup

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 12:42 PM

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but im not too bothered

lunar cypress Mar 14, 2021, 12:42 PM

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winter iron i wanna get a 1440p 144hz

that's like where a 3080 starts to get reasonable

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 12:42 PM

#

ye

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 12:42 PM

#

Would you accept a PR that added support for KDocs and Krypton soon™️?

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 12:42 PM

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or a 4k 120hz

#

🙂

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 12:42 PM

#

yes bardy

winter iron Mar 14, 2021, 12:42 PM

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but im running my os on a hard disk anywyas

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 12:42 PM

#

docdex doesn't just have to be for java

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 12:43 PM

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Time to add hackage suppourt

#

😌

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 12:43 PM

#

although it'd probably need a bit of a redesign

#

nothing major

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 12:43 PM

#

Yeah idm abstracting it a bit more to support more than just Javadocs

quiet depot Mar 14, 2021, 12:44 PM

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it's beta so idc if the api gets fucked over

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 12:44 PM

#

Haha fair enough lol

#

Might have to implement the hackery I did last time for Punishments to get Jenkins to copy KDocs over

#

I had a sed script to replace the reference paths so the CSS and stuff would resolve

#

Or I could just use GitHub Actions to upload to GitHub pages, which won't require any hackery

#

Or something else

half harness Mar 14, 2021, 1:07 PM

#

hot heron You get this figured out?

nope :c

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:13 PM

#

https://i.imgur.com/8BCcAaI.png

Imgur

#

https://i.imgur.com/oYGXADl.png

Imgur

#

https://i.imgur.com/4GGmQFS.png

Imgur

#

god damn it

#

would anyone have any idea about the best way to deal with cancellable events?

#

in my current reactive flow setup

#

I mean, mutability in a highly asynchronous environment, idk what I expected tbh

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:16 PM

#

Suspend the event result execution till all listeners result?

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:17 PM

#

how do I do that?

#

remember that call just emits a value to a flow, and that we have absolutely no clue how many listeners (if any) there are

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:17 PM

#

I assume with async and await from ktx.coroutines

#

Not sure how much flows suppourt coroutines

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:18 PM

#

I mean, they come from kotlinx.coroutines, so I'd assume decently well

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:18 PM

#

Oh you werent using rx*?

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:18 PM

#

rx?

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:18 PM

#

Lemme have a look at what the coroutine flows are

#

one sec

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:18 PM

#

https://kotlinlang.org/docs/flow.html

Kotlin Help

Asynchronous Flow - Help | Kotlin

#

oh btw, fun fact: you can absolutely use coroutines from Java from what I've seen in the code

#

a Continuation is just a glorified callback, and they're not that hard to generate

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:23 PM

#

jovial warren oh btw, fun fact: you can absolutely use coroutines from Java from what I've see...

you can absolutely use coroutines from Java from what I've seen in the code
Thats kinda false. The point of coroutines in kotlin is be able to use sequential style code in place of continuation passing style, if you are just going to write callbacks, thats pretty much equivalent to what you normally do in Java.

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:23 PM

#

yeah

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:23 PM

#

jovial warren https://kotlinlang.org/docs/flow.html

Seems collect is suspending

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:23 PM

#

I'm saying you can

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:23 PM

#

jovial warren I'm saying you can

You can what?

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:23 PM

#

you can technically use coroutines from Java

#

but it's kinda pointless

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:23 PM

#

You are not using "coroutines" in the normal sense tho then

#

Its literally back to callback hell

#

bard

#

What terminal* operation are you using rn?

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:25 PM

#

listen just uses filter, there's no terminal operation there

#

and call uses tryEmit, which gives me nothing

#

maybe @prisma wave can help with this too 🙂

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:27 PM

#

jovial warren `listen` just uses `filter`, there's no terminal operation there

huh?

#

The docs mention that they are lazy

#

The listeners shouldnt run without a terminal operation I assume

#

Are they working rn?

#

@jovial warren

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:29 PM

#

yeah the listeners work

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:29 PM

#

Thats weir

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:29 PM

#

they can use collect

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:29 PM

#

As in the user?

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:29 PM

#

the event currently uses collect, which is terminal

#

but what I'm saying is that how can I know when collect has been called?

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:29 PM

#

collect is a suspend function

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:29 PM

#

yeah

#

hold on, lemme try and explain my confusion

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:30 PM

#

So it should continue only after every listener had made its change?

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:30 PM

#

jovial warren hold on, lemme try and explain my confusion

Alright

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:30 PM

#

https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton/blob/master/server/src/main/kotlin/org/kryptonmc/krypton/event/KryptonEventManager.kt this is the event manager

GitHub

KryptonMC/Krypton

A fast, lightweight Minecraft server written in Kotlin - KryptonMC/Krypton

#

when I emit an event to the shared flow, I have no idea how many (if any) listeners there may be

#

and emit will not suspend and wait for every collector to finish

#

because that's not how flows work

#

they, well, flow

#

oh also, thinking about it, the reason might be because plugins are ran under their own scope

#

well, initialize is, which is the suspending function

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:32 PM

#

is tryEmit an extension?

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:32 PM

#

nope

#

why?

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:32 PM

#

Reading, 1 sec

#

oh right, I think I got its usage wrong

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:33 PM

#

oh actually, I'm really dumb

#

okay I've just seen the comment I should've seen all along

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:34 PM

#

Which is?

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:34 PM

#

https://i.imgur.com/ot0Wd8h.png (SharedFlow docs)

Imgur

#

that's literally exactly what I need

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:35 PM

#

Didnt you say emit wasnt suspending?

#

oh is it just blocking?

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:35 PM

#

I said tryEmit isn't suspending

#

I wasn't aware emit suspended for that reason

#

I know it suspends if there is no buffer space available under a regular buffer config

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 1:36 PM

#

I see

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 1:38 PM

#

right, let's see if this works now

#

https://i.imgur.com/nwMKJMG.png

Imgur

#

https://tenor.com/bhwcm.gif

Tenor

#

and I need to read even better apparently

#

because if I look a few lines up, https://i.imgur.com/HFs6zWN.png

Imgur

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:08 PM

#

ffs why doesn't this work

#

emit suspends until all its subscribers receive it, but that doesn't mean when they collect it I guess?

onyx loom Mar 14, 2021, 2:09 PM

#

grrr

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:09 PM

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

@prisma wave would you have any ideas?

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 2:10 PM

#

Huh?

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:10 PM

#

I need to suspend until every subscriber has collected and processed the emitted event

#

basically, I need cancellable events

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 2:10 PM

#

why

#

ew

#

do cancellation synchronously

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:10 PM

#

wdym?

prisma wave Mar 14, 2021, 2:10 PM

#

all on the same thread, sequentially

#

That way you can actually have priorities, no race conditions, etc

#

Probably the best way

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:11 PM

#

val event = PreLoginEvent(session.profile.name, session.profile.uuid, session.channel.remoteAddress() as InetSocketAddress)
runBlocking { server.eventManager.call(event) }
if (event.isCancelled) {
    session.sendPacket(PacketOutDisconnect(translatable { key("multiplayer.disconnect.kicked") }))
    session.disconnect()
    return
}
```current code for calling pre-login

#

where call calls emit

#

what do I need to change?

hot hull Mar 14, 2021, 2:12 PM

#

ew

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:13 PM

#

idk what else I can really do there

#

idk how I would implement synchronous event stuff into this current event bus

#

you suggesting I just forgo the reactive event bus entirely and just use a regular old event bus?

#

I mean, I can't really think of another way

hot hull Mar 14, 2021, 2:17 PM

#

no clue what a reactive event bus is

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:17 PM

#

it's reactive

#

so when an event comes in, you get it

#

there's no registration BS

#

it all just flows

#

BM

#

help

#

🙂

#

oh also, putting in synchronous events means I'll probably want to step up my current concurrency model a bit

hot hull Mar 14, 2021, 2:27 PM

#

how about you keep both options

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:27 PM

#

idk yet

#

idek how BM thinks I should do synchronous events

#

also, non-cancellable events will still be dispatched async btw, that won't go away

#

for example, HandshakeEvent will be thrown onto a separate coroutine, since there's no reason why that should be cancellable

#

and anyone who may think that there will be an EncryptionResponseEvent:

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https://tenor.com/WL0W.gif

Tenor

dawn hinge Mar 14, 2021, 2:31 PM

#

Ok

forest pecan Mar 14, 2021, 2:34 PM

#

jovial warren https://tenor.com/WL0W.gif

Yes

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 2:34 PM

#

You really love that gif dont you

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:34 PM

#

yeah lol

#

I was thinking of using the Simon Cowell no, but I wasn't even gonna bother looking for the right one

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 2:35 PM

#

idk, that gif just annoys the hell out of me for some reason 🙃

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:36 PM

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

still trying to figure out how I should do these synchronous events BM spoke of

#

could mean the death of the reactive event manager

#

BM

#

Elara bad

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 2:39 PM

#

jovial warren Elara bad

rot in hell

#

🙂

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:39 PM

#

old wyvern rot in hell

somehow that didn't wake him up

#

yet

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 2:39 PM

#

Hes up

#

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:40 PM

#

maybe just ignoring me because it's glaringly obvious and he wants me to figure it out for myself

#

seems legit

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 2:40 PM

#

Or maybe hes busy on someother server?

#

Or just fell asleep with discord on idk

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:40 PM

#

#off-topic

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 2:40 PM

#

#off-topic

#

oh

#

xD

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:40 PM

#

lol

#

BM pls help 🙂

#

how should I do this

#

I need a way to implement synchronous events

#

https://i.imgur.com/fdPNOxc.png god damn you BM

Imgur

#

I suppose I could scrap the reactive event manager entirely and just go with a standard event bus

#

that would work

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whether it would be nice or not though is another story

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 2:43 PM

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If you want to continue with this design maybe you can convert mutation into a request format?

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Like you have events post "Requests" into a channel that you keep receiving and handling

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That should mean only 1 thread would actually be doing any modifications

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:44 PM

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yeah

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I also need to think about preventing Krypton from becoming yet another vanilla

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 2:46 PM

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Minestom

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lol

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:53 PM

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yeah I've seen that

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is Minestom heavily single-threaded?

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I mean, it implements Sponge, so I wouldn't be surprised if it is

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not sure what Sponge is like for multithreaded implementation support though, but I would imagine that it's not all that great, considering it is intended to be used by implementations that both build on to vanilla

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 2:54 PM

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jovial warren is Minestom heavily single-threaded?

No

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Atleast thats what mode told me when we spoke

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:55 PM

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yeah

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 2:55 PM

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You can look through if you want to check I guess

ocean quartz Mar 14, 2021, 2:55 PM

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Don't think sponge has too much multithreading since it also uses vanilla server iirc

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:55 PM

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yeah

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 2:55 PM

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jovial warren I mean, it implements Sponge, so I wouldn't be surprised if it is

huh?

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Dont think it does

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Yup it doesnt

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:56 PM

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oh does it not?

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I swear I saw Sponge in there somewhere

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maybe just me

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 2:56 PM

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They were in talks on something about mixins from sponge or something

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:57 PM

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one of the reasons I didn't go with Sponge, along with it being a complete API (not what I need atm for this project), is that it is one of the worst projects for Kotlin friendliness I have seen

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 2:57 PM

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But im pretty sure they arent a implementation of sponge

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MineStom itself is just a plain API that abstracts away netty

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:57 PM

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ah right

old wyvern Mar 14, 2021, 2:57 PM

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It comes with no features of itself

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They do have a vanila "reimplementation" tho

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They do seem to have a few service meta files about sponge tho

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Dont see anything else from sponge in there tho

jovial warren Mar 14, 2021, 2:59 PM

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yeah

runic flume Mar 14, 2021, 3:00 PM

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Does anyone know a good GitHub Packages alternative. Packages on github are really annoying to work with.
I know jitpack is a thing, although their private repo subscribtions aren't really the cheapest :/