bcz request was bad
#dev-general
static zealot
regal gale
It's still not enough compared to what I talked about lol
unkempt tangle
regal gale
Sir this is #dev-general
unkempt tangle
Then tell me where is the send random voiceclips
static zealot
Sir this is #dev-general
half harness
Then tell me where is the send random voiceclips
static zealot
probably in Chat Chat
regal gale
Aw man... i left there 🥲
static zealot
oh want invite?
steel heart
#dev-general more like why haskell is good
steel heart
regal gale
@steel heart i'ma end u
old wyvern
regal gale
half harness
its dead tho
what is dead?
static zealot
Just a chat chat
half harness
what is chat chat
regal gale
Just a simple chat chat land
half harness
-.-
errant geyser
Like help chat, but not
static zealot
oh no my neon 404 is broken 😦
half harness
discord invite? 
half harness
;-; ok
static zealot
my neon 404 thooo 😢 https://i.imgur.com/SuaTePD.png
its gone
its broken
its
shit
regal gale
Also, the game I was talking about was Yandere Simulator
If you know her
😂
If someone still hasn't figured, there are a lot of memes that cited their code on reddit + people on yt started explaining codes
static zealot
hmm can you go back on github? Like 2 commits back or something?
like from the page itself not using commands
oh I can create branch from a commit
and then merge that one to the main lmao
or maybe not
lavish notch
hmm can you go back on github? Like 2 commits back or something?
That's what branches are for, no?
static zealot
well bcz master is newer and has all the things the old branch has I can't pr it into master
static zealot
bcz that's what I did
and I made a new branch from that commit
and then I tried pr-ing the new branch onto the main one
but doesn't let me
old wyvern
You want to revert commits?
static zealot
and I don't know how to use commands
.
I don't even know how to connect to a repo using commands
lmao
old wyvern
You just use it in the ij terminal or command window
old wyvern
It does
old wyvern
yes
static zealot
actually its way longer if you click on it but it takes the first 7
old wyvern
wdym?
static zealot
this is full string https://i.imgur.com/zqMeCYu.png this is shortened version https://i.imgur.com/3g3tsph.png
old wyvern
use the full one
static zealot
oh I ussed the short one lmao. and it worked
well I think it did
do I need to push now?
static zealot
it asks me to pull first but if I pull it will just go back to the newest one won't it?
ah I had to force push it
git push --force
thanks
old wyvern
lol
static zealot
my neon page works again
old wyvern
Dont think you had to force push tho, but I might be wrong here
static zealot
it just sent an error saying I have to pull first if I didn't force
old wyvern
weird
static zealot
maybe I typed something wrong idk
lunar cypress
No this is correct
hot hull
kek
dusky drum
no idea why thism happens XD
regal gale
What's your argument on that packet lol
dusky drum
welp i figuret out i have to send seperate packet to cancel item velocity for some reason, and i also found that i dont know how to get datawatcher object to gravity on 1.8...
unkempt tangle
does anyone know how airships detect their altitude?
stuck harbor
does anyone know how airships detect their altitude?
Sir this is #dev-general
quiet depot
@compact perch what channel is this
compact perchBOT
@quiet depot, Sir this is #dev-general
stuck harbor
barry is correct there
unkempt tangle
May I wanna know how to develop such technology on my own?
stuck harbor
but this isn't an aviation channel
quiet depot
n3w0rk there’s a little man who drops down a rule from the plane and measures how far it goes till he feels it can’t go any further
keen orbit
thx
unkempt tangle
Like boats with their rope and knots?
stuck harbor
ofc
unkempt tangle
Hmm.. There are rising some doubts
unkempt tangle
Haven't seen such a huge ruler
quiet depot
no the little man just pulls it up a little bit
and are you stupid?
the earth isn’t flat it’s just not not flat
unkempt tangle
quiet depot
4head
jovial warren
lol
jovial warren
12:58:33.062 DefaultDispatcher-worker-1 Server DEBUG NioEventLoopGroup is the chosen one quality lol
astral quiver
Hey folks, anyone that knows minecraft protocol?
the packet id is a varint by the specification, but currently I'm only seeing a Byte from it
I want to know if anyone knows if the packet id uses this varint currently
like, I don't new packets that need more the one byte to represent its ID
obtuse gale
Just wondering, what are your opinions on Python? Is it a good language to use?
prisma wave
I don't hate it
It's not my favourite language tho, although many people like it
Very easy to learn
obtuse gale
yeah
ocean quartz
Personally don't like the syntax, but it's a very useful language and very easy to learn too
ocean quartz
Hey folks, anyone that knows minecraft protocol?
Tbh @jovial warren might know it pretty well at this point xD
prisma wave
Isn't CPython just python?
old wyvern
Python compiled to C I think
prisma wave
That's Cython
old wyvern
Oh?
prisma wave
Afaik
jovial warren
@astral quiver what you struggling with?
jovial warren
the packet id is a varint by the specification, but currently I'm only seeing a ...
you know how a varint works?
the value will be a different amount of bytes depending on it's size
e.g. if the varint is between 0-255 (-128-127 for signed), it'll be one byte long
eternal compass
Does anyone here know how to generate images on the fly with NodeJs/Electron? (I know how to do it with a node webserver, but not electron)
jovial warren
if it's between 256-65535 (+-256 < x < +-32767 for signed), it'll be 2 bytes
etc. etc.
you get the idea lol
also, what you making btw?
if you want a reference of how you actually implement that in code, see https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton/blob/master/src/main/kotlin/org/kryptonmc/krypton/extension/bytebufs.kt#L36 and the function below it
and feel free to steal anything else you might want from that code btw if you're doing Minecraft protocol stuff
obtuse gale
does anybody know how to make a plugin that gives a user op when they join (uuid based)
half harness
does anybody know how to make a plugin that gives a user op when they join (uuid...
that isn't a very good idea
obtuse gale
why?
old wyvern
prisma wave
Self ops bad
obtuse gale
i know
jovial warren
just manually give them OP when they join?
jovial warren
the list of OPs is saved in a file, so you won't have to re-op players every time they join
half harness
^
jovial warren
Tbh <@266294134116057089> might know it pretty well at this point xD
I'd like to think so lol
half harness
how do I fix intellij giving a billion warnings in build.gradle 🤔
i dont want to invalidate cache & restart 😫
since i have like a billion dependencies
jovial warren
how do I fix intellij giving a billion warnings in build.gradle 🤔
by not being trash
half harness
._.
onyx loom
classic invalidate
old wyvern
and..... ij just crashed 🙂
onyx loom
i bet eclipse doesnt crash!
stuck harbor
ew
onyx loom
giygh
astral quiver
the value will be a different amount of bytes depending on it's size
I know how its works, packet id uses VarInt, but, currently, I think there is no amount of packets that require more then one byte
So, you can use a function that reads var int to read packet id
or just readByte
and should work
What I'm trying to understand is that if minecraft currently have any packet that have a ID that is bigger then one byte
jovial warren
no it doesn't
I would still read it as a varint though, just in case that changes in the future
what you making btw @astral quiver?
also, anyone here up to give me a hand designing the start of Krypton's API btw?
astral quiver
what you making btw <@!167430668089819136>?
adding more apis do kt-mc-packet
astral quiver
I would still read it as a varint though, just in case that changes in the futur...
was what I did
but to increase performance and decrease memory allocation, I did this:
jovial warren
nice
half harness
What is the difference between a serverbound and a clientbound packet?
WOAH
TIER 5
jovial warren
think about it
forest pecan
lol
half harness
uh
jovial warren
they go to the client
half harness
i dont know if it's client -> server or server -> client
jovial warren
and serverbound packets go to the server
half harness
ok
half harness
would I be able to use the serverbound Handshake protocol to get the protocol version of the user?
idk what handshaking is
half harness
lol
jovial warren
handshaking is basically a way for a client to say hello to a server
half harness
oh
jovial warren
and a server to say hello back
astral quiver
why just: send by server + send by client
jovial warren
it's a way to establish a connection to someone else
astral quiver
much much much simpler to understand
half harness
does it "say hello" when the player pings the server or joining?
jovial warren
the handshake packet in Mojang code is called ServerboundHelloPacket, so I'll let you figure that one out
half harness
lol
jovial warren
actually trying to get you to read something is like telling a baby to not touch something because it's hot
just doesn't happen
jovial warren
The TCP protocol also does handshaking
yeah TCP has it's own handshake
basically, handshaking is when a client says hello to a server
and generally, the intention of a handshake is to establish a connection
in TLS for example, handshakes are used to establish an encrypted connection
TCP's handshake is to establish that you and the server are both alive and receiving packets correctly
also, thinking about Krypton's API, events are gonna be a real pain, since a lot of Krypton is async
half harness
oof
steel heart
Make it joinable so we can make it sync also
Or smtng
Actually that would be a problem
But yeah forcing async isn’t nice
jovial warren
chunk loading is done on an IO dispatcher coroutine, and so is sending the packets to other connected players when you join the server (e.g. spawn player, chat, etc.)
still actually debating whether I like Sponge or not
actually Sponge 8 is far from done so that's kinda out of the question, might use some of it as a reference though
astral quiver
also, thinking about Krypton's API, events are gonna be a real pain, since a lot...
SharedFlow
Do you folks are using kt-mc-packet at Krypton ?
jovial warren
nah
astral quiver
I'm backing working on it
jovial warren
I think Krypton was made before kt-mc-packet was a thing
astral quiver
yeh, I know
jovial warren
and I'd rather not rewrite the backend to use it tbh
astral quiver
the major problem now is that some minecraft packets are dynamic, is not the same thing one a flag in the middle is true or false
jovial warren
yeah their structure changes based on the content, which is frustrating
obtuse gale
For example the tab complete packet 
obtuse gale
getWhatever will "give you" all "whatever" variables that are in the packet indexed
So if you do getIntegers().read(0) that will read the first integer in the packet
getIntegers().write(3, 69420) will set the 3rd int to 69420
half harness
just a random example: https://wiki.vg/Protocol#Player_Digging
How would I get the face being hit? (the Face field)
jovial warren
wise man once said there's no such thing as a stupid question, just a stupid idiot asking the question I guess
half harness
jovial warren
also, what do you want to do? listen for when the packet arrives?
jovial warren
literally an example of that in the README
jovial warren
you probably want PacketType.Play.Client.PLAYER_DIGGING I guess? if that's what it's called
half harness
https://wiki.vg/Protocol#Vehicle_Move_.28serverbound.29
To get the yaw, would I do getFloats().read(0) or getFloats().read(3)?
._.
anyone know?
jovial warren
oh btw, I've decided that I actually kinda like Sponge, and that implementing Sponge is gonna be far easier than designing my own API
I will still add some extensions and stuff to make it easier to use in Kotlin, but for the most part, it'll be Sponge
obtuse gale
https://wiki.vg/Protocol#Vehicle_Move_.28serverbound.29
To get the yaw, would I...
So if you do getIntegers().read(0) that will read the first integer in the packet
getIntegers().write(3, 69420) will set the 3rd int to 69420
obtuse gale
It's a bit overwhelming at first and sometimes you have to use reflection of your own but yeah it does make things hella easier
timber oak
Does people usually make a class for Listeners or a package for them?
timber oak
single responsibility principle
in classes?
old wyvern
We make functions!
OOP bad FP good!
stuck harbor
mmmhm
prisma wave
true!
prisma wave
in classes?
?
old wyvern
Nah man, we do it in the break time
timber oak
What do you mean with the principle
old wyvern
Look up SOLID
stuck harbor
abstraction
onyx loom
?solid
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
old wyvern
abs
old wyvern
Polymorphic functions 🤤
prisma wave
parametric polymorphism 🤤
onyx loom
shut
timber oak
So in single responsibility principle it's just however you define one responsibility? Since a responsibility could be to just have all Listeners. Could also be a class per listener though?
prisma wave
where you draw the line depends
steel heart
SRP imagine
timber oak
where you draw the line depends
Yeah, that's what I mean
obtuse gale
am i allowed to ask a question not related to placeholder?
steel heart
I code everything in one class (:
old wyvern
Basically divide it into the smallest units possible that can independently exist
prisma wave
^^ however, you might have 2 event handlers in the same class if they handle the same thing (eg death event + quit event for leaving a minigame)
timber oak
Basically divide it into the smallest units possible that can independently exis...
Well not really though. Because then I'd have only one method per class?
old wyvern
Not true
obtuse gale
take it as a yes then
timber oak
I see what you mean, I just have to know where to make a new class and when to just keep using the same
old wyvern
A class might need to listen to multiple events for its Unit functionality
obtuse gale
ok i have commandnpc how do i get my npc to run a mvtp though console to tp the player that clicked the npc to the correct world
prisma wave
old wyvern
fpprank 🥲
prisma wave
wasnt feeling it today 🥲
old wyvern
xD
prisma wave
feel free to do it yourself lol
old wyvern
forgot the link
prisma wave
🙂
old wyvern
Ah there we go
onyx loom
first thing i see on the link 👀
prisma wave
he haunts me
old wyvern
yes, YT keeps recommending that
prisma wave
yeah it was pretty quiet lol
timber oak
What is the use of making classes for Listeners only? Like I'm making a GUI rn but why not just create the GUI in the same class as the event?
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
stuck harbor
altho that link
steel heart
How unfortunate I don’t follow a single one of them
stuck harbor
While these principles can apply to various programming languages, the sample code contained in this article will use PHP.
stuck harbor
ive been learning PHP cause i need to make a portfolio website
and i only know wordpress sadge
steel heart
Rip
old wyvern
What is the use of making classes for Listeners only? Like I'm making a GUI rn b...
Separation of Concerns.
You do not want to end up with spaghetti where you make changes somewhere and that change then causes further issues in many more places.
Isolating specific logic means you can make considerable changes to it without having to modify more than you absolutely need to .
onyx loom
steel heart
And ofc that class should have an abstract implementation and an interface
old wyvern
Nah man, what we need is a AbstractClassFactory and generate everything
self writing program
!!!
steel heart
Lmao
old wyvern
Take that Siri!
steel heart
We need a factory for that class as well
old wyvern
AbstractFactoryFactory#recursivelyCreate(AbstractClassFactory.class)
steel heart
LMAOOOOO
steel heart
Lmao thanks for showing me
old wyvern
What in the...
timber oak
Separation of Concerns.
You do not want to end up with spaghetti where you make...
So for making a GUI I'd have one class for as Listener for the event and another one for configuring the GUI?
But then if I decide to make a second GUI do I then make two new classes again?
because then I'd end up with tons of classes
old wyvern
If that GUI is different from the first, yes. Ideally tho, if you are working with a lot of these, you'd build a minor internal GUI library or more likely use the pre-existing ones.
lunar cypress
I do not know
I thought it was a joke at first
It's literally just replacing methods with constructors
old wyvern
Yea I think its a joke
prisma wave
The irony is
On the "reasoning" page they say true Objects should represent real life entities
And then...
onyx loom
wym this is great
gonna try it out rn
cant wait to transform my code into this beauty! 😍
hot hull
Ew
dawn hinge
My eyes 
old wyvern
prisma wave
Lmao
surreal quarry
that is hideous kaliber
hot hull
Someone get this dude some glasses and a bag of brain cells
Took a lot of energy to come up with that!
onyx loom
wouldve been better if he turned the sout into an object too
prisma wave
new Print
onyx loom
yes please
onyx loom
new System 🙂
surreal quarry
new
old wyvern
new new new
prisma wave
Ok but when is new Variable(String.class, "s") coming
old wyvern
new (new (new NewFactory()))
surreal quarry
thats a great idea
static zealot
I love me some new new new new new new new new new new. The newest new
surreal quarry
Variable<T>
prisma wave
N.java
old wyvern
Variable<T>
No generics bad, Use only objects please!
surreal quarry
NewFactoryFactory
static zealot
I also love using deprecated events because the new ones are broken
surreal quarry
sounds like a personal issue
onyx loom
sounds like a you problem
prisma wave
Sounds like you're not using enough OOP
static zealot
I love functional programming
old wyvern
NewLang
helloworld:
New New neW new new new New nEW New
neW New nEW new neW New nEW
neW New nEW new NEW neW New nEW
neW New nEW new New nEW nEW
NEW new new new NeW neW new new new new new
new
static zealot
I don't know if I like this
surreal quarry
why not??!?!?!?!?
onyx loom
modern
half harness
making a forge mod is impossible 😭
onyx loom
is it tho 🤔
hot hull
Wat
obtuse gale
for you lol
onyx loom
smh
static zealot
yes
half harness
what can i do
static zealot
kill myself
static zealot
😕
obtuse gale
6
half harness
How do I fix the project's gradle settings?
because I still have a gigabyte or ram left before it says "out of memory"
stuck harbor
sadge
old wyvern
Clash ?
stuck harbor
yawn sure
old wyvern
anyone else?
stuck harbor
there should be a clash role to ping
stuck harbor
sure
static zealot
shall I ping?
xD
@old wyvern @steel heart @half harness @obtuse gale @onyx loom @ocean quartz @hot hull @prisma wave @jovial warren @stuck harbor @forest pecan wanna join?
stuck harbor
jesus this one rn
half harness
im busy trying to get this thing to work
stuck harbor
its mad
old wyvern
ayyy xD
old wyvern
im busy trying to get this thing to work
It wont, now join!!!
xD
but holy shit
this question
static zealot
well I gotta go take a shit. see you in 2 hours
obtuse gale
lol
onyx loom
what is with blitz and 2 hour poops
stuck harbor
2? those are paultry numbers
half harness
👀 it's been 11 minutes and it hasn't ran out of memory
half harness
1.5gb free memory
why does it take 15+ minutes to decompile mc
also the red x scares me
steel heart
<@!235475470806679554> <@!299969655915806741> <@!521485088995672084> <@456226...
BLITZ STOP
surreal quarry
he really forgot me in the mass ping smh my head
surreal quarry
this is why we need COC role
steel heart
Yep
steel heart
Fabric or forge?
half harness
forge
steel heart
Please die
half harness
...
hot hull
Please die
Gladly
stuck harbor
https://godotengine.org/article/why-isnt-godot-ecs-based-game-engine you tell me, juan
obtuse gale
steel heart
I concur
onyx loom
are we going to talk about compact mode
onyx loom
questionable behaviour
steel heart
Albeit iOS does not have it which is a shame
half harness
so I finished the setupDecompWorkspace stuff but it's as if nothing happened...
it still compiles
forest pecan
stuck harbor
stonks
stuck harbor
well I think I can guess
forest pecan
lol
forest pecan
cap
stuck harbor
perhaps
half harness
why is mod development so hard
why can't it just be like spigot, just run buildtools, add the dependency, done
steel heart
It’s nice but forge is a mess
surreal quarry
L
steel heart
Therefore fabric
half harness
then you make it
._.
forest pecan
nah but like serious
half harness
nothing is working 😭
forest pecan
it cant get easier prolly
steel heart
👏 f a b r i c 👏
ocean quartz
nothing is working 😭
Welcome to forge
jovial warren
why is mod development so hard
it's not all that hard lol
timber oak
How are nametags created? Since armor stands are so slow I can't really see why you would use those for it.
errant geyser
Idk if this is a decent method anymore but the last time I did that I mounted the smallest magma cube to a player and used its name tag
It was barely above the regular height
timber oak
Some of you in here might have an idea of my plugin knowledge so how good is it compared to that I started a month ago? Am I like decent or? Honest opinion
surreal quarry
iirc you started learning java a month ago right
timber oak
Iirc?
surreal quarry
if i remember correctly
timber oak
No, I’ve used it a bit before
Maybe like a month totally
Idk
Before starting on plugins
surreal quarry
well anyways, you are still a beginner (as am I)
java itself is huge and takes years to learn (and even then you are still learning more about it every day)
the spigot api is also a relatively complex api (and poorly made in many cases)
it wouldn't make sense to be very good with any of it in that short of a period of time. you have improved since day 1 i would guess, but there is still a lot more to learn
timber oak
Alright, so would you say I’m improving fast or slow or whatever?
surreal quarry
no clue, i have a terrible memory lol
you're probably around where i was at a month or so
timber oak
Alright, just feel like this is more complicated than how I thought it was. But I guess most people think that then
For example DI
That was so confusing to begin with
Still kinda is but getting better
half harness
before u try using DI
you should probably learn more about how instances and constructors work
and static too
(dont use static)
but you should learn about it
yk what i mean?
surreal quarry
i did it the hard way and learned java while i was learning plugins. I would say i didn't really understand DI for a while, i sort of just recognized the patterns of passing instances of classes to one another. You'll understand it eventually. Reading online can be very helpful. theres good articles and SO answers about these things all over the place
half harness
i didn't know what overriding did until a loooooooooong time past i started learning lol
surreal quarry
static is ok to use in certain cases
half harness
ik
surreal quarry
stateless things
steel heart
I use static everywhere
surreal quarry
indeed
half harness
ms edge is mean
steel heart
It makes my code minimal, less lines
half harness
no
timber oak
i did it the hard way and learned java while i was learning plugins. I would say...
Kinda doing it the same way. I was working on java for a while but then it got boring and I needed projects to work on. Therefore I started on plugins. So I still need to learn a lot about java
half harness
JDA
timber oak
But I mostly learn java through making plugins
half harness
JDA > spigot
steel heart
Discord4j > jda
half harness
🙄
steel heart
I don’t make the fax
half harness
anything > spigot
half harness
lol i just saw this in another discord
surreal quarry
Lmao
steel heart
Lol
half harness
my response:
timber oak
Why not just always avoid using static?
half harness
Why not just always avoid using static?
some things have no point in not being static
for example util methods
surreal quarry
it is very useful to have static for stateless things
half harness
theres no point of it having its own instance
so it's static
it might be confusing 😕
ocean quartz
Why not just always avoid using static?
Static has a use, the issue is that people use it wrong
half harness
^
timber oak
But I cannot access static methods and classes from non-static ones?
half harness
you can
surreal quarry
you can't call non-static methods in static methods
half harness
hm
surreal quarry
but you can call static in non-static
half harness
i have an example
surreal quarry
actually thats not always true
ocean quartz
You can instantiate things in static methods which allows you to call non static members from the instance
timber oak
you can't call non-static methods in static methods
Wait I couldn’t though
surreal quarry
if you pass an instance as a parameter you can
surreal quarry
you can't do something like this
class ... {
static void blah() { other(); }
void other() { ... }
}```Like, earlier today I was testing out DI in standard java. You cannot use it in the main method though? Since it’s static
I couldn’t figure out how to do it at least
quiet depot
sure you can
surreal quarry
you can do something like this
surreal quarry
lol
quiet depot
was typing it out on phone
timber oak
Ohhh so that’s actually what I did In my main class in the plugin
timber oak
I did need it to get access to other classes though?
surreal quarry
oh well you were creating an instance of a class in your onEnable i think
thats a bit different than this
timber oak
Aren’t you doing that here?
surreal quarry
not exactly. in a regular java application, your entry point is in a static context, so you would usually have 2 classes. a launcher and a main class. the launcher's only purpose is to create the main class and call any sort of initialization methods that main class has (if its not done in the constructor)
the point of this is to take your app from a static context to a non-static context. when make a new ReportBot() then call #start(), it gives the app a non-static entry point.
you can think of that start as if it was the onEnable of a plugin. its a non-static entry point
timber oak
Hmmm, but what you were showing above just created an object of another class though right?
surreal quarry
it did
i created a new instance of ReportBot and called the start method in that class
timber oak
I learned about creating objects when I was learning java. But not about how to make constructors make new objects or whatever it does
Not sure what constructors do yet. Like how they actually give access to the methods in the class
surreal quarry
in a minecraft plugin, you don't worry about that step. the spigot api takes your plugin, and uses reflection to call your plugins onEnable
steel heart
https://github.com/derp-development/Derpio I also have an example here (:
surreal quarry
Not sure what constructors do yet. Like how they actually give access to the met...
they don't give access
it sometimes helps to think of a constructor as a very specific method. it can have 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 382 or any number of parameters that you pass it
you pass those params when you do new MyClass(...)
so you are providing the new instance of MyClass with the params ...
those params may be a string, it may be another class, it may be a boolean
thats how you use DI to "give access" to the methods of a specific class
timber oak
But what does actually happen when you parse the class into the constructor as a parameter?
surreal quarry
thats up to you
timber oak
Like why does that “give access” to the methods
surreal quarry
public MyClass(OtherClass clazz) {
}```
this would do absolutely nothing. it doesn't provide you with any of the methods from `OtherClass`
```java
private final OtherClass clazz;
public MyClass(OtherClass clazz) {
this.clazz = clazz; // assign the private value clazz to the clazz passed when the class was created
}
// in methods down here, `this.clazz` or just `clazz` is available because you are in the same class where the private variable was created```
This example does something. It takes the passed `clazz` and assigns it to a variable that the rest of the methods in your class can useAlright damn, I’m saving this message. This is the best explanation I’ve had of DI lol. I’m really tired right now so doesn’t make 100% sense to me right now. But more than ever before lol. What I don’t understand is that you would need to do something in OtherClass for this to work right?
surreal quarry
not exactly. you would need to make an instance of OtherClass at some point so you have something to pass to the constructor
and you would probably want methods or variables in OtherClass
otherwise there’s not really a point of injecting it
timber oak
An instance like this? “OtherClass clazz = new OtherClass();”? Or wdym. Typing this on phone so yeah kinda slow lol
surreal quarry
yea exactly that
timber oak
So which class do you do this in? Lol
surreal quarry
ooh ur blue now
steel heart
timber oak
I’ve used this multiple time before I’m just so tired rn lol
I can’t remember how to use this rn lol
surreal quarry
it can be in any class
timber oak
You make the instance in MyClass in this example right?
surreal quarry
you just need access to it when you make a new MyClass(...)
not in MyClass if you are passing it to MyClass using DI
it is sort of situational where and when you make it though
timber oak
Alright, kinda makes sense to me now. I’m just too tired to understand it rn I think. I’ll read through all this tomorrow again. Thank you very much for taking your time to explain all this!
This really helped me understand it
surreal quarry
yea np
steel heart
James epic carry
timber oak
Oh yeah blue name now lmao
timber oak
James epic carry
Indeed
surreal quarry
James epic carry
need that xp 😤😤
steel heart
jovial warren
Been working on the Krypton API, using the good parts of Bukkit and some of Sponge as a reference
Currently got a somewhat existent API with the stuff to work with players, load and retrieve worlds and chunks, get status info, and create scoreboards. Also got Player inheriting from Adventure's Audience, because native Adventure support good
I may or may not have stolen Bukkit's Vector functions as well lol
The good thing about my vectors though is that they're completely immutable. All operator functions and calculations call copy with the new values, so you can be sure that your vector won't be modified by something else. It also means that things like the vector's length (sqrt(x^2 + y^2 + z^2)) is only calculated once
lunar cypress
It also means that things like the vector's length (sqrt(x^2 + y^2 + z^2)) is only calculated once
how so?
jovial warren
Because you only need to calculate the length once, as it won't change
Since it's immutable
lunar cypress
...sure, but when does it happen
jovial warren
Not sure, it's a val so likely when it's instantiated?
lunar cypress
bad idea
winter iron
calculate when u need it?
jovial warren
Yeah maybe that is a bad idea
lunar cypress
what I would recommend is a private lazy value and a public property that gives you the value of the lazy
lunar cypress
oh yeah you can do something like by lazy I think
Although I've never really understood property delegation
jovial warren
I think the way that works is it'll be calculated lazily but only once, which is exactly what I want
Also, Krypton has three types of positional indicator
You've got Location, which is bound to a world and supports coordinates with fractional precision, and it also supports the two rotational axes pitch and yaw
old wyvern
That doesnt seem like anything new?
jovial warren
You have Vector, which isn't bound to a world, and is essentially just a standard element of vector space. This also supports coordinates with fractional precision
Then you have Position, which isn't world bound either, but does not support coordinates with fractional precision
old wyvern
What would Position represent then if its not bound to a world?
jovial warren
It's things like block and chunk positions
old wyvern
Those should be bound to the world tho?
jovial warren
I know that technically means it should be bound to a world, but it's easier if it isn't
Unless it isn't easier
Actually I might make position bound to a world
The reason it's not in the server is because worlds and chunks are kept separate from one another due to the way they are loaded
old wyvern
Position here just seems like an unnecessary extension to Vector from the above description, i.e, a vector with integer coordinates
jovial warren
Chunks are loaded by loading region files with the RegionManager, and the WorldManager loads world data from level.dat
jovial warren
Position here just seems like an unnecessary extension to Vector from the above ...
Yeah I'll have it be bound to a world
And I can't merge position with location because a location includes pitch and yaw, whereas a position doesn't
old wyvern
mhm, and if you do want a integer bound version, Id say atleast name it for the specific use case, so like BlockPosition instead of Position
old wyvern
And I can't merge position with location because a location includes pitch and y...
Maybe you should separate rotation from location
jovial warren
Yeah but then if I name it that, I'll also have to make a chunk position, which just over complicates things imo
jovial warren
Maybe you should separate rotation from location
Maybe, but location is meant to be used for things like the location of an entity in a world
old wyvern
Yea but then entity could simply add on a Rotation property that takes care of that specific thing
jovial warren
True
I think storing double precision block positions is a bit wasteful though, and that means I'll have to check for that on the backend
Anyway, I got English now :(
See ya
old wyvern
Alright ciao
stuck harbor
bad
unkempt tangle
Nu i guud
stuck harbor
only supports up to 1.12.2 haha
unkempt tangle
Minecraft Java Edition 1.13+ support is under development. Please don't join with 1.13 yet if you want a playable experience
stuck harbor
stonks
unkempt tangle
Even an fair amount of plugins https://forum.cuberite.org/forum-2.html
quiet depot
=plugin lukkit
compact perchBOT
quiet depot
Lul
ironically this is actually the very thing lua is designed for
lua is at its heart, an embedded language
stuck harbor
fuckin' lua
if ur gonna just go over every single programming concept, at least do it like common lisp
stuck harbor
seemingly inactive sadge
astral quiver
Any server implementation already supporting graalvm?
anyone knows?
I don't, Paper maybe?
astral quiver
lua is at its heart, an embedded language
Bukkript >
Someday I got more time to finish the project
There is alot of things to be done
specially with PDM
quiet depot
dev
server impls don't need to support graal
it's kinda like java's scripting engine, but even more usable
gentle coyote
Yo, I am trying to spawn a fake armor stand using ProtocolLib, however, wiki.vg tells me, I should use a 'Spawn Object' packet for Armor Stands (https://wiki.vg/Entity_metadata#Mobs) and references that packet, but there is no documentation about it. So I want to ask you what the most recent way of spawning an armor stand using packets is lol
obtuse gale
@gentle coyote they probably mean that mobs should be spawned with the "Spawn Living Entity" packet and the ones in yellow with the 'regular' "Spawn Entity" one
gentle coyote
Alright. And they also mention to use the Object ID instead the Entity ID. Im quite unsure what to specify for the entity ID when sending the packet if I use the Object ID...
obtuse gale
Probably the object id? Lol no idea
gentle coyote
No, theres a special field for that
jovial warren
Any server implementation already supporting graalvm?
GraalVM is just a JVM
If it runs on HotSpot, it'll run on Graal
unkempt tangle
Can you enchant books or boots for Frost Walker ?
ocean quartz
No .. or can you?
Vsause theme playing
obtuse gale
*proceeds to talk about everything in the universe without actually answering the question*
toxic python
Hey, I've downloaded DeluxeMenus 1.8.0 on my 1.8.8 Spigot Minecraft server and yet it doesn't work. It shows up as red in /pl.
- I do not use /reload
unkempt tangle
Probably a conflict (lack of dependencies, config gone, version incompatibility, config yaml file is wrong)
toxic python
@unkempt tangle Thanks! I've fixed my issue, it required PAPI I didn't know it was a must for PAPI to exist so the plugin would work. Ty.
astral quiver
GraalVM is just a JVM
Yes, but, GraalVM have a good support to create binaries applications
so, is not just a VM
half harness
#bot-commands 🙂
oak coyote
nah i've made L a vowel just to prove a point
ocean quartz
betterdiscord isn't better, 'tis worse
It's against discords TOS
half harness
bAN
stuck harbor
It's against discords TOS
oui
steel heart
I use discordworse
stuck harbor
oops sry ping
hot hull
I never knew PlayerQuitEvent doesn't get called when the server shuts down and the player is kicked
static zealot
oh wait for real?
hot hull
apparently yea
hot hull
tried kicking the players on disable
static zealot
But why not do what you do on quits in onDisable?
hot hull
Because the code which I need executed doesn't get directly called from my main class so it'd be a fuckery to do that
forest pecan
hot hull
mac, ew
hot hull
Do you see my issue
forest pecan
with the oceans?
hot hull
it duplicates the item because it doesn't clear their inv on server shutdown
forest pecan
Oooof
hot hull
Didn't kick you, server did
forest pecan
Lmao
hot hull
This is what I got so far
Still need to change the functional interface abuse
But idc rn
stuck harbor
mmm nice main class
hot hull
very
stuck harbor
very klean
hot hull
need to move the action stuff out
hot hull
be gone
ocean quartz
@hot hull Isn't it supposed to be Registrable? xD
ocean quartz
Wdym both are incorrect?
hot hull
Registerable sounds better imo
hot hull
could just make it Registry perhaps
hot hull
COnclure why
@ocean quartz btw using mf gui in that, gotta costumise the shit out of it
hot hull
Yus
static zealot
motherf gui
jovial warren
right, it's time to design the command system for Krypton
might somewhat base it off of BungeeCord's command API, since I like the Command(name, permission, aliases)
obtuse gale
I personally prefer the idea of allowing predicates instead of plain strings as permissions
more like a "requirement"
jovial warren
yeah maybe
half harness
wdym
jovial warren
I could accept a Predicate<T> I guess
jovial warren
but that might start to get a bit messy
class MyCommand : Command(name, { it != null }, aliases) {
override fun execute(sender: Sender, args: List<String>)
}
for example
we're definitely not having an annotation-based command system, because I just don't like them all that much tbh
hot hull
If you don't add brigadier command colorization imma be mad
jovial warren
might cheat and have execute provide an Audience lol
hot hull
What's an Audience
obtuse gale
adventure audience
jovial warren
by Adventure documentation, an audience is a receiver of Minecraft media
obtuse gale
If you don't add brigadier command colorization imma be mad
and tooltips!!
jovial warren
"Audience is designed to be a universal interface for any player, command sender, console, or otherwise who can receive text, titles, boss bars, and other Minecraft media"
prisma wave
I could accept a `Predicate<T>` I guess
(T) -> Boolean you uncultured swine
jovial warren
yeah whatever lol
obtuse gale
lol
prisma wave
🤬
jovial warren
also, how would I then do permission checking if I was using predicates?
surreal quarry
it would actually be really nice if it provided an audience bardy
prisma wave
just make Sender implement Audience
jovial warren
there might not even need to be a Sender lol
since Audience covers just about everything I would need
jovial warren
lol
surreal quarry
lmao
prisma wave
wtf
half harness
lol
prisma wave
🤨
half harness
d;lol
prisma wave
since `Audience` covers just about everything I would need
Is that I'm not sure this is true
It can implement Audience but it should probably be a more specialised type
jovial warren
eh, apart from the name of the sender, that's about it
surreal quarry
yea you need a Sender and a Player of some sort, just make them both implement audience in some way
jovial warren
actually Permissible has quite a bit I might need yeah
prisma wave
getName, performCommand, all the permission based stuff
surreal quarry
doesn't have that much
jovial warren
also, how should I do perms btw?
I should probably just stick with string perms tbh, for compatibility
onyx loom
just shove luckperms in the jar
jovial warren
predicates will get a bit messy as well
jovial warren
just shove luckperms in the jar
stfu that's not what I mean you goose
onyx loom
☹️
jovial warren
also, gl getting LuckPerms to work with predicates lol
obtuse gale
predicates will get a bit messy as well
What I meant is that for commands to allow predicates, but having a stringly based permissions system is flexible enough
surreal quarry
you shouldn't have Command take the permission as an argument i dont think
unless its a predicate
obtuse gale
If you're making a stringly based permissions system I myself am gonna write an LP implementation for it
jovial warren
you shouldn't have Command take the permission as an argument i dont think
optionally taking the permission it needs as an argument means I can have it be configurable I guess
jovial warren
If you're making a stringly based permissions system I myself am gonna write an ...
I was already planning on doing that lol
surreal quarry
yea optional would be fine
jovial warren
defaults
surreal quarry
but don't require people to use ur permission thing for commands. i sometiems have multiple perms for a single command depending on subcommands and stuff
obtuse gale
That's why it should take a predicate
jovial warren
yeah I'll just do what bungee does
obtuse gale
D:
surreal quarry
null means no permission
obtuse gale
Strings!! Aargh!
jovial warren
you still have the execute body
jovial warren
null means no permission
fair enough, null it is
also, still thinking of how I want to do plugins
prisma wave
PDM
surreal quarry
relocations when
prisma wave
what I mean is
jovial warren
I really want to use inheritance, but then I would probably need to support DI
surreal quarry
lmao
jovial warren
I do and I don't want to do another Spigot and just instantiate the class myself
prisma wave
don't
jovial warren
that's the easy way
prisma wave
Don't copy bukkit's cesspit of a system
jovial warren
I might add a lightweight DI framework like Koin or Guice in there or something though, that's another option
jovial warren
to... inject... dependencies...
surreal quarry
you don't need a framework for that
jovial warren
no, but it's really nice to have one
surreal quarry
why?
jovial warren
especially with something like Spring, where dependencies come from literally everywhere
prisma wave
Yes use something lightweight such as spring boot
jovial warren
-_-
prisma wave
Maybe a bit of XML configuration too
jovial warren
might use Koin tbh
not sure it's really designed for this kind of stuff though
also, is there really a way I can have the main class not be instantiated by me and yet still get an instance?
ocean quartz
especially with something like Spring, where dependencies come from literally ev...
So you're saying that the framework is useful when you can't organize your shit?
jovial warren
So you're saying that the framework is useful when you can't organize your shit?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
prisma wave
https://github.com/InsertKoinIO/koin
Gross