is this supposed to be an intersection
#dev-general
lunar cypress
I had it so early
prisma wave
is this supposed to be an intersection
|| yes ||
lunar cypress
but got lost in syntax errors
prisma wave
i think so
somber tulip
Can I retire the round or something i fucked up
prisma wave
just close the tab ig
old wyvern
Nope
prisma wave
not that much
lunar cypress
Isn't $ just "right associative"
sudden cape
retainAll here I come
prisma wave
as long as it doesn't take 3 minutes or something you're probably fine
old wyvern
Isn't $ just "right associative"
Yea but the resultant expressions work the same
Apparently F# users prefer right pipe tho
atleast according to a few stackoverflow posts
prisma wave
yeah right pipe is definitely used more
it reads more naturally
map |> filter |> reduce rather than reduce <| filter <| map
somber tulip
I should've done this with a languge i know properly
somber tulip
I cannot convert an integer array to a "4 6 8" type thing
lunar cypress
`map |> filter |> reduce` rather than `reduce <| filter <| map`
honestly for purely composing functions rather than "piping" an input through at the same time I prefer the latter
sudden cape
somber tulip
fuck sake scala
prisma wave
wrong type?
lunar cypress
what's firstPair?
sudden cape
an integer array
prisma wave
honestly for purely composing functions rather than "piping" an input through at...
i guess that comes down to personal preference
for composition it might be better
lunar cypress
I've seen too much linear algebra I suppose
sudden cape
Cannot infer type arguments for HashSet<>
i'm missing something
plainly stupid here
and i hate it
lunar cypress
exam in 2 weeks monkaW
prisma wave
but to represent something similar to streams i greatly prefer |>
old wyvern
i'm missing something
what's firstPair?
old wyvern
yea just saw
prisma wave
it's probably trying to make a List<int[]>
prisma wave
yeah
sudden cape
you reckon it's parsing that as an int[] as the first parameter
ugh that would suck
ok
prisma wave
probably
sudden cape
guess i'm writing my own thing to convert this then
sudden cape
yeah fair
sudden cape
KEK
okay time ran out
well
i did use retainAll but the spacing at the end of the output fucked me
wait i could have substringed
prisma wave
Huh?
sudden cape
set has a retainAll function
prisma wave
Ik that
old wyvern
Share code
sudden cape
and then there was a trailing space
prisma wave
Oh
sudden cape
after the last number
prisma wave
String.join ?
prisma wave
Oh well
prisma wave
1 more?
prisma wave
this code bad
You never write clean code in COC lol
prisma wave
You just hack stuff together
sudden cape
i just allocated too much
like for example
i converted to an integer array
and then to a set
i could have skipped converting to an integer array completely
just gone to a set
old wyvern
bm join
prisma wave
1 sec
final lichen
.....
lunar cypress
anyone else?
prisma wave
mobile tho
final lichen
.
prisma wave
lol
sudden cape
so mad the caps bot stopped you
final lichen
Please explain to me why you do that unnecessary ...
final lichen
When did you write that lol
sudden cape
it was for a code challenge we just did
final lichen
kekw
prisma wave
uhh
sudden cape
you should join one
final lichen
ugliest code competition?
prisma wave
this is unbelievably easy
lunar cypress
wtf?
sudden cape
@final lichen join one
forest pecan
code clash?
prisma wave
yes
forest pecan
invite
final lichen
ok which one
forest pecan
sudden cape
yes code clash
prisma wave
this is the easiest one ever
old wyvern
dammit bm
lunar cypress
OH
old wyvern
tf is this xD
sudden cape
ig wait for them to be done
prisma wave
lmao
sudden cape
kevin is a bit of a monster
prisma wave
yeah this one won't take long lol
lunar cypress
how am i supposed to know
final lichen
kevin is a bit of a monster
yeah I become a monster when you write that weird double allocating thing
old wyvern
I am absolutely lost
forest pecan
wat
prisma wave
experiment with the relations between input and output yugi
thats usually what i do
like divide, multiply etc to try and find a link
lunar cypress
it doesn't have an obvious test case
prisma wave
yeah it's kinda obscure
prisma wave
but really easy once you realise
old wyvern
this
prisma wave
lmao
sudden cape
also how do you guys bare writing those ugly ass languages
prisma wave
also how do you guys bare writing those ugly ass languages
WHAT did you just say
sudden cape
read again
forest pecan
that super opinionated xD
sudden cape
if you want to
prisma wave
i am FURIOUS
sudden cape
they look ugly asf kek
forest pecan
if you want ugly, look at R
sudden cape
so many syntax weirdies
prisma wave
your opinion is WRONG
forest pecan
ffs
prisma wave
😂
sudden cape
idk the syntax looks so weird
sudden cape
clojure yeah
sudden cape
cause you are used to one language
cap
prisma wave
clojure is very different
sudden cape
i just tend to write code in languages that have a market
sudden cape
so ones that don't look like they're made by a crazed maniac
prisma wave
i just tend to write code in languages that have a market
such as clojure f# and haskell?
forest pecan
bruh market languages rn will die later
new ones always appear
when you finish learning one, another rises
somber tulip
well i found out i really need to work on learning scala
sudden cape
well
lunar cypress
i just tend to write code in languages that have a market
ok there are easier ways to say that u hate yourself brother
sudden cape
not sure if you know
prisma wave
lmfao
ocean quartz
<@!180369172046413824>
Hmm? Wasn't here so kinda lost in the conversation xD
forest pecan
XD
old wyvern
Hmm? Wasn't here so kinda lost in the conversation xD
Clash matt
forest pecan
ok there are easier ways to say that u hate yourself brother
made my day ❤️
prisma wave
well i found out i really need to work on learning scala
you dont need much scala knowledge for this lmao
ocean quartz
Ah, can't right now sorry
forest pecan
clash
sudden cape
ok there are easier ways to say that u hate yourself brother
i do but
sudden cape
that's not the point :(
old wyvern
Oh alrighty 👍
prisma wave
java has been around for a hot minute
so has haskell :)
somber tulip
you dont need much scala knowledge for this lmao
Yea but I'm there waiting for tab complete for methods on each variable bec i don't know / remember them
prisma wave
ah rip
old wyvern
Haskell has been around since before Java I think
sudden cape
yeah but haskell's market is just a tad smaller than that of java
somber tulip
and I'm in general stoopid at this stuff
prisma wave
yeah i think it has
sudden cape
mhm
prisma wave
yeah but haskell's market is just a tad smaller than that of java
a bit
sudden cape
it has
final lichen
Idriz hates me because I write C all day
prisma wave
but it's not totally obscure by any means
lunar cypress
clojure also passed 15 years now
prisma wave
nice
old wyvern
wow
sudden cape
@final lichen do i send the meme
prisma wave
haskell is used by facebook
forest pecan
Idriz hates me because I write C all day
i bow down to you
final lichen
I'm the king of old languages
forest pecan
lmao
sudden cape
i can't send images
prisma wave
clojure is used in loads of places
f# is probably used somewhere
discord uses elixir
sudden cape
lunar cypress
F# is fairly popular as an alternative to c#
prisma wave
lmao
prisma wave
F# is fairly popular as an alternative to c#
an upgrade*
somber tulip
How do you make one of those games? Like to practice by myself or something?
final lichen
"meMoRY wAs NoT meANt tO Be AcCEsSeD DirECtLy"
forest pecan
ah yes, lazy fucks cause they cant handle memory theirselves
prisma wave
How do you make one of those games? Like to practice by myself or something?
there's a practice tab
forest pecan
sudden cape
ah yes, lazy fucks cause they cant handle memory theirselves
but it gave us WINDOWS
prisma wave
final lichen
stop typing new and start typing malloc
somber tulip
ah yeah, cheers
prisma wave
have you ever heard of rust?
final lichen
also start typing free
sudden cape
stop typing new and start typing malloc
malloc(sizeof(your mom))
old wyvern
Idriz hates me because I write C all day
final lichen
^
sudden cape
out of memory
prisma wave
rust is a new up and coming language that is going to revolutionise the way we write low level code
sudden cape
KEK
sudden cape
rust is a new up and coming language that is going to revolutionise the way we w...
replace rust with any language
final lichen
rust's syntax annoys me
lunar cypress
was this the original meme? because I just remembered it and its great
prisma wave
was this the original meme? because I just remembered it and its great
i think so lmao
final lichen
I'd really rather write C++ and use the tools that exist (and my own brain) to avoid the pitfalls
lunar cypress
rust's syntax isn't particularly obscure
final lichen
joined it
old wyvern
these guys love obscure syntax for some reason
"idk french, sounds obscure"
final lichen
how does this work exactly
prisma wave
these guys love obscure syntax for some reason
yeah rust isn't that different to C or java or something in terms of syntax
sudden cape
"idk french, sounds obscure"
idk man that isn't a good analogy
the syntax of clojure is real weird
prisma wave
these guys love obscure syntax for some reason
whats obscure about $ <$> >>= . >@> <- (a:b) ??
forest pecan
what about brainfuck
prisma wave
lisp good
final lichen
Should I pick C and do the whole thing with as few branches as possible @sudden cape
old wyvern
how does this work exactly
There are 3 modes, fastest, shortest, and reverse
Fastest:- well... solve the pastest
Shortest... well yea
Reverse... They give you the input and output, you gotta produce that
forest pecan
anyone forget about brainfuck
prisma wave
ofc not
distant sun
Meh @prisma wave
old wyvern
Sounds like an mlp, but going by the history of questions, probably not it
prisma wave
this question is awful
sudden cape
@final lichen solve it or i will malloc(sizeof(your mom)) on prod
it'll crash our servers aha ha
sudden cape
what language
final lichen
I did it in java
lunar cypress
two tests keep failing and adk why
sudden cape
I did it in java
ATTA BOY
final lichen
my solution only added 13 lines to the base code
lunar cypress
lol
I didn't change anything and when I ran a previously successful test again it failed
final lichen
lol
prisma wave
Beautiful, isn't it?
final lichen
nah I like my little for loop better
final lichen
how is a for loop not pure
lunar cypress
oh wow
prisma wave
Your solution has (🤢) state
final lichen
my solution works
lunar cypress
laziness messed me up lol
prisma wave
So does mine
lunar cypress
yep, ok, remember not to defer reads next time
final lichen
"state" I store the inputs, run through them all with a for loop, and then print out the result... It does functionally the same thing as whatever that map/reduce thing does except it explicitly declares what it's doing rather than hiding addition behind a function call.
prisma wave
abstraction is good
lunar cypress
actually, the opposite is the case
prisma wave
yeah lol
lunar cypress
but let's not have this discussion right now
sudden cape
"abstraction is good"
prisma wave
my solution is much more explicit than imperative logic
final lichen
who abstracts a for loop... sorry what?
prisma wave
lol
im possibly not qualified to talk about this
but declarative logic is a lot more explicit than a big for loop with lots of control flow
old wyvern
There we go
sudden cape
you're not arguing about a for loop
final lichen
you have the exact same amount of control flow, it's just hidden behind function calls. In fact, it's more control flow.
lunar cypress
imperative code is about the "how": declare a counter, check condition, increment. declarative code is about the "what": what are the transformations that are applied to the flow of data
prisma wave
^
final lichen
u += w[i+1] * x[i];
that's the "what"
prisma wave
no it's not
sudden cape
is it not
old wyvern
Thats the how
forest pecan
This was my solution
class Solution {
private static boolean gay;
public static void main(String args[]) {
System.out.println("FLOATING POINT NUMBERS ARE GAY AF");
gay = true;
gay();
}
public static void gay() {
while (gay) {
gay();
}
}
}
lol
final lichen
lmfao
lunar cypress
sure, you need to know what map and reduce mean but once you have that you can express pretty much anything with it without worrying about problems that are not actually part of what you're trying to solve
final lichen
how is looping not a part of solving this problem
I honestly do not understand this
this is too big brain for me
sudden cape
you're doing the same thing
old wyvern
you're just abstracting it behind 25 gigs of standard libraries
huh?
forest pecan
reading two lines at once 
final lichen
I did it without one "standard library" function call
old wyvern
I did it without one "standard library" function call
And?
final lichen
(and I coded it minutes faster clapjam)
prisma wave
declarative languages don't care about the "how" (i.e loops, control flow, etc), imperative languages are all about writing the "how"
forest pecan
someone get another clash open
final lichen
I'll do this one in C
prisma wave
hmm ok
old wyvern
Cube needs to add the clash of code thing to barry 
prisma wave
rewrite barry in haskell
old wyvern
rewrite barry in haskell
Yes!
old wyvern
And a role
Yes again!
forest pecan
Big boy
old wyvern
oh god xD
final lichen
I'm going to get called dumb for writing a for loop, watch lol
forest pecan
lmao
sudden cape
LOL
prisma wave
nobody called you dumb lol
old wyvern
^
final lichen
I know I'm joking around
lunar cypress
how is looping not a part of solving this problem
Well, we have different philosophies here. But the problem statement was just about "you have these weights, you have these inputs, you multiply them together", no mention of a loop or an algorithm
prisma wave
^^
sudden cape
did ya solve it without a loop?
old wyvern
Yes
prisma wave
technically yes
sudden cape
ok so
final lichen
technically no, you didn't... those functions interally are just loops
lunar cypress
And from my experience it holds true that declarative languages are better at expressing "what" your program/algorithm actually does rather than obscuring it through implementation detail
sudden cape
what did you do
old wyvern
technically no, you didn't... those functions interally are just loops
Abstractions
old wyvern
what did you do
Recursion
sudden cape
did you invoke map or reduce at any point
old wyvern
Yes
prisma wave
yes
forest pecan
just start
forest pecan
pls lol
prisma wave
what did you do
there will be loops somewhere under the abstraction, yeah. but by the same logic, Java code uses malloc because it's used in the internals
sudden cape
mk
final lichen
huh?
lunar cypress
technically no, you didn't... those functions interally are just loops
and in the end, everything is executed as the same instructions on a cpu
old wyvern
Its about how the idea is presented, not how its executed
prisma wave
yeah
sudden cape
so
final lichen
and in the end, everything is executed as the same instructions on a cpu
that's actually not true
function calls have overhead
(and don't say the compiler optimizes it out because it doesn't always)
prisma wave
depends on the language
lunar cypress
I'm not talking about performance or that everything runs in exactly the same way...
old wyvern
That was not intended towards that kev
sudden cape
which language doesn't have function invocation overhead
that's interesting actually
lunar cypress
what I'm saying is that when I run two things on my computer they use the same language at the lowest level
prisma wave
yeah, declarative languages are just another layer of abstraction over assembly
final lichen
Then why is some code written in C usually faster than the same code written in one of these abstracted languages
lunar cypress
that's a quote to be framed lmao
lunar cypress
Then why is some code written in C usually faster than the same code written in ...
who are you arguing against?
old wyvern
Then why is some code written in C usually faster than the same code written in ...
Why is Assembly ussually faster than whats written in C or Java?
sudden cape
depends on who's writing it
old wyvern
Same in this case as well
sudden cape
i think comparing writing machine code to inlining function calls is a little misleading
sudden cape
kekw
forest pecan
bruh
theres negatives
and theres also invalid integers
you have to keep track off
lol
final lichen
I hate this caps bot lo
that's so dumb
"invalid integers" me:
for (int i = 1; i < strlen(s); i++) {
out += s[i] - '0';
}
printf("%d\n", (s[0] - '0') * out);``` try {
Integer.parseInt(s);
} catch (NumberFormatException e) {
System.out.println("INVALID");
return;
}
lunar cypress
that was not very good
final lichen
that was annoying and stupid
forest pecan
life is
prisma wave
this sucks
final lichen
sighs ok... I should probably get back to making a multithreaded matrix multiplication algorithm...
final lichen
It's for a HPC class
I have to multiply two 10k square matrices together
and I have to do it the fastest
old wyvern
welp
final lichen
The naive approach takes about 20 seconds, my singlethreaded optimized approach takes about 3 seconds, and I have a plan to get it down to about 0.2 seconds
final lichen
See y'all later ig
forest pecan
gn
winter iron
Yo anyone know my animations on mobile are laggy for my website, domain is senseiju.me
so you can see what i mean
winter iron
if u load it up on ur phone
idk why for me
it seems laggy
and choppy
on the animations
not as smooth as on desktop
half harness
Is it suspicious if a java dev with 6 years of exp has no projects on github?
since this person is asking to be on this dev team
but doesn't have any public projects
they said they only did private work
final lichen
not by itself, I have about 10 years of experience but don't have much on my public github
reef maple
Hi,
At the moment I use many NBTdatas* on the item.
I would like to ask what is the perfect way to store many datas on an itemstack, especially because it often need to do checks on it (custom stats), data changes (custom dura).
sweet cipher
Hi,
At the moment I use many NBTdatas* on the item.
I would like to ask what i...
If you are using 1.14+ you can use PersistentDataContainers
hot heron
OPA/rego is jank af
forest pecan
I finally did it bois https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/why-you-shouldnt-name-your-main-plugin-class-main.493289/
Finally
i dont have to copy and paste my big ass paragraph
lol
small fern
moved this message sorry about that
small fern
its not really a request, I would also be making plugins for it and it would be more of a long term project. should i still put it in those channels?
small fern
alright ill re-send it there lol
weary epoch
@runic willow I didn't know u where here
hot hull
@old wyvern Have you gotten any work done? So I know if I should wait for you to push before I play around with it
reef maple
If you are using 1.14+ you can use PersistentDataContainers
I am 1.9 to 1.16
hot hull
Disgusting.
old wyvern
My changes are isolated to the renderer module rn
hot hull
Ah okay gucci
quaint isle
How would an epic programmer get rid off the repetition here?
if (Bukkit.getPlayer(args[0]) != null) {
Player targetPlayer = Bukkit.getPlayer(args[0]);
// Logic
}
final Player player = Bukkit.getPlayer(args[0]);
if (player == null) {
return;
}
// Logic
Oh I didn't know I can just assign it to a variable if it's null. Time to try that, thanky! 🙃
jovial warren
[status]
max_players = 20
[status.motd]
text = "Krypton is a Minecraft server written in Kotlin!"
color = "#9403fc"
[status.motd.formatting]
bold = true
italic = true
```that doesn't look bad for optional component MOTDs right? (if `motd` is a string it just gets interpreted as text)huh?
jovial warren
I wanna support using components instead of really annoying and outdated colour codes
so that will be turned into a chat component from Komponent and then that gets sent to the client as JSON
since JSON chat components are supported in MOTDs
hot hull
Well yea but then it's a bitch to configure a longer string with multiple formatting types
jovial warren
kinda true I guess
so what should I do instead? legacy codes just for this?
and then turn those legacy codes into a component internally?
hot hull
idk
hot hull
Not a complete fan of adventure but sure
distant sun
```toml
[status]
max_players = 20
[status.motd]
text = "Krypton is a Minecra...
horrible config format
hot hull
How dare you not like toml
prisma wave
how can toml be bad if rust uses it !!
prisma wave
you have no evidence
lunar cypress
Furthermore, you can't determine the run time of an algorithm exactly. Sometimes, perhaps, you could in principle, but you're too dumb.
my professor is just roasting us in his script
prisma wave
harsh lol
lunar cypress
ok, tbf, it sounds worse in English
old wyvern
MeTh LaB
lunar cypress
"you" is used like "one"
old wyvern
What is MatLab used for btw?
lunar cypress
academic shit
hot hull
Absolutely disgusting
lunar cypress
running calculations, plotting functions and so on are its main uses I think
old wyvern
Like what kind of academic stuff? My class just went from computer vision to matlab without any explanation
She was like "today we start matlab" and has been going over random functions and shit
without explaining tf we are using this for
old wyvern
running calculations, plotting functions and so on are its main uses I think
oh
uh
I guess it has image processing libraries or something?
lunar cypress
probably
old wyvern
🙃
dry coral
steel heart
Ye
old wyvern
Why lol
jovial warren
horrible config format
[server]
ip = "0.0.0.0" # The IP for the server to bind to. 0.0.0.0 means listen on all interfaces
port = 25565 # The port for the server to bind to. Defaults to 25565
online_mode = true
compression_threshold = 256
use_native_transport = true
[status]
motd = ""
max_players = 20
[world]
name = "hardcore"
gamemode = "survival"
difficulty = "normal"
hardcore = false
view_distance = 10
```how dis badI dont like that it doesn't use space for indent =/
steel heart
jovial warren
spaces make YAML too much like arrow code
also, spaces are optional
so you can still use spaces, it's just not required
iirc
steel heart
Feels like that would nullify the point of using toml
jovial warren
yeah putting spaces in there would
old wyvern
That same* thing exists in toml too right? for sub nodes
reef maple
If you are using 1.14+ you can use PersistentDataContainers
Under 1.14, is it possible AND useful to use a serialized class as ItemNbt ? If I want the plugin can be used from 1.9 to 1.16 and future
jovial warren
Not a complete fan of adventure but sure
why not btw?
jovial warren
Under 1.14, is it possible AND useful to use a serialized class as ItemNbt ? If ...
custom NBT isn't saved before 1.14, I think that's what they're saying
old wyvern
That same* thing exists in toml too right? for sub nodes
oh wait nvm, false
allowed but not required
reef maple
so what can we save before ? only strings / numbers etc ?
jovial warren
no custom NBT will save before 1.14
reef maple
Ooh alright
jovial warren
dis why old versions bad
reef maple
So my plugin can actually work only 1.14+
jovial warren
unless you persist the NBT yourself then yes
obtuse gale
```toml
[server]
ip = "0.0.0.0" # The IP for the server to bind to. 0.0.0.0 mean...
Imagine not using minified JSON
{"server":{"compression_threshold":256,"ip":"0.0.0.0","online_mode":true,"port":25565,"use_native_transport":true},"status":{"max_players":20,"motd":""},"world":{"difficulty":"normal","gamemode":"survival","hardcore":false,"name":"hardcore","view_distance":10}}
ew json
obtuse gale
Beautiful
old wyvern
Imagine not using ELON
reef maple
Aight
obtuse gale
no custom NBT will save before 1.14
That's false...
half harness
lol
obtuse gale
If you get and modify the NBTCompounds directly that will work just fine...
Because that's literally the only way you can access them lol
jovial warren
```json
{"server":{"compression_threshold":256,"ip":"0.0.0.0","online_mode":true...
easy to serialise, a fucking pain in the ass to read
errant geyser
How does Docker work? Does it create its own little virtual environment? If so, how does editing files work?
jovial warren
Docker is basically a lightweight virtual machine environment
each container is it's own machine
but I'm not sure if Docker uses the system kernel or it gives each container it's own kernel
errant geyser
ok cool
sweet cipher
Under 1.14, is it possible AND useful to use a serialized class as ItemNbt ? If ...
You could serialize it, you could maybe make an inferface, then check if the server is in 1.14 or below use NBT and if not use persistent data containers. I’m not sure how well serializing would work, I know you can add bytes though.
reef maple
Alright, thanks
sweet cipher
What type of object do you need to serialize on an item stack?
reef maple
Some stats (arrays of : int, floats, Strings)
because my items have stats based on equipment location, what player class/archetype can use, current durability / maximum durability... All of that custom so it does not use the defaults minecraft stats like durability, damages, attack speed...
sweet cipher
You could have a map somewhere of the name of each item, then it’s stats, and just store the name of the item on the object, and you can store the damage on the item also.
forest pecan
what lol
reef maple
I used it but I want that damages can be physical, magical, distant, plus they are used with some character stats, not standalone.
The items can be improved with crystals that change some stats and can be renamed.
I have a map, but it is for the items to give to players in their basic form
gilded granite
honestly at this point its weirder if my code works the first time than it not working
ocean quartz
That moment when you stop and look at your code for a few minutes and all you can think is "why the fuck did i do this"
surreal quarry
lmao
half harness
lmao
onyx loom
is that mf-cmds i see
ocean quartz
Wondering how i can add sub sub commands
Was thinking about having each sub command have children list, but sounds too complicated
static zealot
why is my brain so bad at everything 😦
onyx loom
have u tried getting a bigger brain
static zealot
no.
But seriously now. I have times when I work on something and my brain just gets blocked from everything and I know the answer is like super super simple I just can't think what it is. Usually if I just get someone and explain them what the problem is out loud my brain just gives me the answer but not all the times
half harness
what is your question
static zealot
I've solved it but it was pretty simple. just had to get a boolean to check something at the start of the operation and another boolean during the operation that changes in a special case and if both are true then stop
ocean quartz
Something like this could work but it's ugly af
/command sub subsub
static zealot
I tried visualising the problem in paint and on paper and that sometimes helps as well but this time I had to say it out loud
static zealot
Something like this could work but it's ugly af
`/command sub subsub`
I mean its not that bad.
what would the alternative be? Like this is pretty ok imo
ocean quartz
No alternative that i can think of
Well, in Kotlin this would look better, but i don't think the function is accessible outside the scope
static zealot
why? I like both just as much. maybe if you'd make the inner class in the first option use @SubCommand it might be better
surreal quarry
yea the first picture you sent doesn’t look bad
onyx loom
create a @SubSubCommand annotation
gilded granite
man do i love it when after spending 5 hours debugging i figure out i forgot 1 semicolon
ocean quartz
create a @SubSubCommand annotation
I'd rather die
onyx loom
🙂
half harness
create a @SubSubCommand annotation
@SubSubSubCommand
static zealot
man do i love it when after spending 5 hours debugging i figure out i forgot 1 s...
That's java guys... xD Kotlin is way better. and will save lifes. It already has.
half harness
saved mine 🙂
onyx loom
theres the daily kotlin circlejerk
half harness
lol
ocean quartz
I mean the IDE should be screaming at you if you forget a semicolon
static zealot
that too ^
half harness
screaming with 1000 errors
static zealot
unless it was in a string or something
half harness
ye
ocean quartz
Takes you exactly to where the issue is
half harness
what theme is that
static zealot
maybe he had a string be split by ; or something and that makes way more sense
his theme
atom dark one
or something
half harness
that's what i use though
half harness
oh
half harness
what colors
static zealot
I can try and see if I can find it. he sent it in #development a while ago.
half harness
thx 🙂
half harness
oh
static zealot
@ocean quartz I assume you don't mind me sending the file here right?
Material UI plugin, theme is Atom one dark, but i have custom color scheme
i just use the font Fira code medium instead
File and Installation Guide:
Go to settings, editor, color scheme, then import
surreal quarry
i use it too
static zealot
welp here you go
surreal quarry
very good
half harness
> Material UI plugin, theme is Atom one dark, but i have custom color scheme
> i...
@half harness thx
half harness
to remind myself later
static zealot
oh I see
makes sense
btw I just made a discord server and made a random channel where I put stuff I need to remember
with links and stuff
might help you as well
oh I forgot about my VPS lmao.
static zealot
yeah I haven't even set up the ssh key yet
half harness
i set it up onmy rpi a long time ago
static zealot
I don't even remember why I stopped and at what point. fuck
ocean quartz
<@!180369172046413824> I assume you don't mind me sending the file here right?
Yeah i don't mind
hot hull
heh
jovial warren
this Mojang code is actually making me want to jump off a cliff
the rabbit trail you have to follow to find what you want is ridiculous
onyx loom
sounds fun
hot hull
chunk.load
jovial warren
-_-
hot hull
duh
onyx loom
he not wrong
jovial warren
atm, I'm just loading them all at once in a spiral to a square area of ((render distance * 2) + 1) ** 2
which er... kinda... almost crashes the client sometimes lol
hot hull
I mean don't load them at once
half harness
wait im confused though, why can't you just load them?
like
can't you just load the nearby chunks
hot hull
spiral pattern sounds probably the best btw Bardy
static zealot
welp I messed something up xD Permission denied (publickey,password).
ocean quartz
load every chunk based of user render distance 🙂
Edits the settings puts in 1000 chunks crashes the server, perfect idea!
half harness
Edits the settings puts in 1000 chunks crashes the server, perfect idea!
what about the number in server.properties? (i forgot the exact name)
or like load 5 chunks in a tick
ocean quartz
That's the one he's doing lol
jovial warren
spiral pattern sounds probably the best btw Bardy
yeah I'm keeping the spiral, I just need to think of how to stagger chunk loading I guess
ocean quartz
One thing Mojang needs to do, specially in 1.17 is to only generate/render a specific distance vertically as well, 16*16*384 will start to be heavy
half harness
384 👀
jovial warren
that's actually something it already does
a chunk is split into sections, 16 of them at the moment (18 for lighting purposes, but we won't go into that), and each section can either be present or, well, not present
and when you send chunk data packets, you send the data for as many sections as you have that have data
ocean quartz
Well it doesn't really matter that it's divided if it'll all generate at the same time
What i am trying to say is that there is no point in keeping -32 active if i am at +286
jovial warren
actually I think ik what you mean, I don't really see the point in that though
jovial warren
Well it doesn't really matter that it's divided if it'll all generate at the sam...
yeah I guess
jovial warren
but that would mean splitting the world up vertically as well, and making chunk loading apply vertically
which would be annoying and complicated to do
ocean quartz
Which would be great performance wise but probably annoying
hot hull
If it were easy people would've done it already
ocean quartz
Because for example if you are in the ground and you look at a mountain you wouldn't be able to see the top
hot hull
Just tell yourself that when you don't wanna do something
jovial warren
not only that matt, but it actually might decrease performance
because every time a chunk is unloaded, you have to send an unload chunk packet for it
so you'll be sending even more packets
which means even more load on the system
hot hull
Interesting problem
jovial warren
and you'll also have to send more chunk data packets, which are fucking huge, so that'll be even worse performance
hot hull
async
jovial warren
async just means things are done at different times, it doesn't mean things are done differently
the same things are still done, they're just done separately
hot hull
shut up
jovial warren
hot hull
Either this dude stupid, or it doesn't
obtuse gale
What's "this dude" saying?
static zealot
damn man the OVH tutorials are pretty good
just reseted my VPN followed them and got the ssh key and all that to work pretty fast
half harness
still working on ssh?!
static zealot
well I never got it to work
half harness
i got mine up fairly quickly (and took time to get the java version, but the actual connecting was quick)
i forgot exactly how i set it up tho
was too long ago
static zealot
and just reinstalled it all
now I need to see how I can get the bot on the vps
also idk why I said VPN last time
VPS is what I meant
I've actually tried termius. it has a 14 days free trial only tho
half harness
I've actually tried termius. it has a 14 days free trial only tho
github student dev pack :)))
also how did u see that message
static zealot
well time to become a student
half harness
lmao
static zealot
ugh you didn't insta delete it ...
half harness
yes i did
static zealot
no you didn't
half harness
at least i thoguht id did
half harness
🤦 logs
ocean quartz
Just pay $5k to a university so you don't have to pay $50 to github and get it for free instead
prisma wave
damn man the OVH tutorials are pretty good
DigitalOcean guides are amazing
static zealot
yes
static zealot
well 50$ for github, some for github pages, I save some more for VS Code some more for IJ Ultimate and maybe in the end its all worth it
prisma wave
gui or cli*
static zealot
I'll just do it with commands
jovial warren
CLI
half harness
i prefer gui 😛
jovial warren
CLI superior
half harness
which is why everyone hates me 😔
jovial warren
GUI has too many clicky clicky mouse thingys for me
prisma wave
i prefer gui 😛
only people that don't understand CLI say that
half harness
lol
static zealot
true
prisma wave
Aka smooth brains
obtuse gale
which is why everyone hates me 😔
Oh don't worry though, I hate you for many other reasons
half harness
only people that don't understand CLI say that
with gui you don't really need to understand it 🙂
half harness
Oh don't worry though, I hate you for many other reasons
;-;
half harness
Aka smooth brains
im smooth brain
static zealot
well maybe you should
prisma wave
with gui you don't really need to understand it 🙂
Less productive tho 🙂
static zealot
ugh idk
half harness
Less productive tho 🙂
but easier to use and i like to do the easier way 🙂
static zealot
is it really less productive?
half harness
is it really less productive?
u can run something that can be like 5 buttons with 1 cmd
ig
thats what bm said earlier
prisma wave
git commit -m "msg" is about 30x faster than clicking Git > Commit, Typing in a message > Commit
For example
static zealot
wait BM can you link the docs? can't seem to find them
prisma wave
what docs
half harness
git commit -m "msg" is about 30x faster than clicking Git > Commit, Typing in a ...
something called a Commit & Push button 🙄
half harness
and u still have to type message in cli
prisma wave
something called a Commit & Push button 🙄
lol that still takes 4 clicks
ocean quartz
git commit -m "msg" is about 30x faster than clicking Git > Commit, Typing in a ...
Faster doesn't mean better
prisma wave
Yeah but you can type it immediately
half harness
lol that still takes 4 clicks
4?
half harness
Faster doesn't mean better
👀
jovial warren
one thing that sways me towards CLIs is the fact that typing in a command doesn't make you search for a button that's often hidden and or obscure or not very obvious
prisma wave
Git tab > Commit > click message box > commit and push
static zealot
oh nvm I thought you said it has docs on how to put the bot on vps xD
prisma wave
oh no lol
prisma wave
one thing that sways me towards CLIs is the fact that typing in a command doesn'...
Yes guis are often annoying to navigate
jovial warren
this is why I have an Arch Linux system lol
I don't use it for whatever reason, but I have it
half harness
lol
half harness
idek how sftp works
half harness
is that a VPS running macos?
half harness
no i just copied and pasted from https://termius.com/ lol
prisma wave
🙄
half harness
🤣
half harness
does the image look familiar O_O
half harness
And can you precious "termius" build docker images?
what are docker images
half harness
im not on my pc-
prisma wave
what are docker images
Docker is a set of products that use OS-level virtualization to deliver software in packages called containers. Containers are isolated from one another and bundle their own software, libraries and configuration files; they can communicate with each other through well-defined channels
static zealot
well fuck. I guess I got a vps now. will host the bot later xD
prisma wave
Let me give you an example
What if you made a program that needed jdk 11 to build, and needed some library installed to run
Let's say you wanted to run this program on a different pc
static zealot
wait I need to download java on the vps as well right?
prisma wave
You could install everything it needs on that other pc, but that takes time and effort
Or you can make a docker image for that program, which (sort of) includes everything that program needs to run and can be set up with 1 command
static zealot
or does java 11 come with unbuntu 20.04? I read that somewhere
prisma wave
possibly
static zealot
yeah doesn't
prisma wave
Check java -version
prisma wave
huh?
static zealot
it just spoon fed me the commands to install java 8,11,13 or 14
prisma wave
meaning it's not installed
static zealot
yeah I know
prisma wave
so yeah just run one of the commands
static zealot
just thought I'd have to google the commands
prisma wave
As long as you remember apt install [program] you can usually just guess it
static zealot
and it can't download java 11 fuck
prisma wave
🙂
frigid badge
don't be stupid and use docker
prisma wave
circlejerk is ok if the product is good :)
frigid badge
you are like a son to me
frigid badge
prisma wave
Whatever that's supposed to mean
errant geyser
I would join the docker circlejerk but I still can't figure out how to edit files inside the container
prisma wave
I'm not sure you should be doing that most of the time
But you can docker inspect it to find the path on the system usually
errant geyser
I need to edit the nginx config to actually give it a proper certificate to hopefully fix the issue I was having yesterday
frigid badge
you make your own image or use a volume
prisma wave
docker fork 🙂
errant geyser
Well I tried using a volume but idk how to get the config it's currently using to change it and then put back in the volume
I literally need to change 2 lines in /etc/nginx/templates/ssl.tmpl
and then do the same for postfix and dovecot, which I'd imagine is slightly more painful
frigid badge
the current config is:
# This file is managed by iRedMail Team <support@iredmail.org> with Ansible,
# please do __NOT__ modify it manually.
#
#ssl on;
ssl_protocols TLSv1.2;
# Fix 'The Logjam Attack'.
ssl_ciphers EECDH+AESGCM:EDH+AESGCM:AES256+EECDH:AES256+EDH;
ssl_prefer_server_ciphers on;
ssl_dhparam /opt/iredmail/ssl/dhparam2048.pem;
# Use a bought SSL cert:
# - https://docs.iredmail.org/use.a.bought.ssl.certificate.html
# Request a free cert from Let's Encrypt:
# - https://docs.iredmail.org/letsencrypt.html
ssl_certificate /opt/iredmail/ssl/combined.pem;
ssl_certificate_key /opt/iredmail/ssl/key.pem;
but afaik it generates it's own certificates on first run
errant geyser
yeah it generates some self signed ones
frigid badge
you shouldn't have to change the certificates
errant geyser
I'm following a tutorial from linuxbabe and it says to change the certificates for nginx, postfix and dovecot to an actual certificate
old wyvern
Whats the LogJam Attack?
jovial warren
yeah use Let's Encrypt certs for that sort of stuff
errant geyser
I just need a mail server that works
frigid badge
to be completely honest even
errant geyser
I've been trying to do this for ages now
frigid badge
don't self host email servers
old wyvern
Why do you need a mail server?
errant geyser
Because my friendos want one for something they're working on
frigid badge
with email you need incredible reliability, and make sure it's not flagged
old wyvern
oh, I mean you could just use gsuite or something if its just for the sake of a domain
frigid badge
which are 2 incredible hard things
old wyvern
o.o
errant geyser
I'd rather move away from GSuite, especially since the thing they're aiming to make is almost a direct replacement for it.
errant geyser
It's just for some friends, nothing big or critical
frigid badge
still you can easily lose receiving email
if your server is not online the email is gone
static zealot
man how do you guys remember all these commands
errant geyser
if your server is not online the email is gone
This is on their own VPS, if they shut it down that's not my problem. They are aware of that
static zealot
oh docker seems pretty cool tho
errant geyser
Lemmo
How are you like this
I've been messing with iredmail for a couple days now, and poste works with no extra setup in about 2 minutes
ocean quartz
Kotlin on Eclipse 😬
hot hull
Yikes
onyx loom
delete this
static zealot
an IJ installation
unreal briar
you really don't want to selfhost email
Not an issue if you can guarantee uptime
been using a selfhosted mail for a year now
i've used it in production, clients mail me through that
aside some minor trouble, it's been fine
ocean quartz
In better news though :pog:
https://twitter.com/kotlin/status/1367129392376393733
prisma wave
Self hosted mail stopped me from getting a job
Contacted these people, they replied and said they were interested, my mail server bigger and I couldnt give them my details
Tragic
old wyvern
Finally ffs xD
Also bm seems I wont be able to use elixir, using it as a direct replacement for the erlang file seems to not work with the erlang module naming, tried it the way elixir does it and that leads to ejabberd not detecting the file
Every piece of info on this is about if you compile ejabberd from the source
I dont have enough knowledge of this eco system to get elixir to work here 🙁
static zealot
to many commands for me 😦
static zealot
oh fuck yeah. Now I really messed up xD Permission denied (publickey).
stuck harbor
meh
stuck harbor
re enable password login
static zealot
how?
stuck harbor
go into the emergency console, most hosts have one of those
static zealot
from where?
stuck harbor
uh I just said
stuck harbor
well there is literally no other way to get in if u disabled password auth
static zealot
yeah as I said I really messed up
stuck harbor
what host do u use?
static zealot
oneprovider