but you've somehow got time to help me make it worse 
#dev-general
errant geyser
Doesn't take long to make a python script opening each file and inserting random strings in places they don't belong
jovial warren
if you did that in level.dat, Adventure would probably complain because it wouldn't be able to parse the NBT data lol
but if it can parse the NBT data, anything added won't break it
since the server only gives a fuck about very specific things
forest pecan
⚙️ Development General - Not configuration help - More relaxed area to discuss development topics
jovial warren
-_-
jovial warren
and how does this relate to anything we've been saying? lol
errant geyser
I wonder if Caddy v2 configuration counts under that rule
errant geyser
since the server only gives a fuck about very specific things
I meant doing it to the actual kotlin files too
jovial warren
Caddy v2 is literally a piece of piss
jovial warren
I meant doing it to the actual kotlin files too
yeah that's not called making it worse, that's called literally completely breaking it
jovial warren
lol
forest pecan
blame it on them
errant geyser
Well, I'm thinking of updating, since either I'm doing something wrong (far more likely) or Caddy v1 doesn't let you have multiple reverse proxies per subdomain, it keeps redirecting me, although only if I proxy the port used for http requests to my mail server 🤔 If I proxy 443 it just says that it can't process a http request or smth
forest pecan
is it javamail?
errant geyser
nein
jovial warren
wait a minute... why tf are you reverse proxying mail?
how many brain cells do you have?
it's a web server
also, what happened to you just using Prevarinite Mail lol
errant geyser
because it uses 443 and 80, and I kinda need those for my actual web pages. So I set docker to use 380 for 80 for this container, and 3443 for 443, then I'm going to reverse proxy those to my subdomain, and it should all work
Or at least that was the plan
Until it blew up in my face
jovial warren
please don't tell me that you're running SMTP through 443
obtuse gale
im eating crackers
gimme
jovial warren
or SMTPS through 443
errant geyser
No, that's 25
errant geyser
jovial warren
oh you're one of those
errant geyser
Unfortunately
jovial warren
cheating by using one of these "mail works out of the box" systems smh
errant geyser
Modoboa just didn't work, and I don't have the patience or time to manually configure postfix, dovecot and whatever else
jovial warren
imagine not having a friend who literally set up Postfix and Dovecot from just man pages
errant geyser
Yeah unfortunately none of my friends are capable of that
jovial warren
actually I kinda also configured Postfix and Dovecot from man pages as well
since I had to make tweaks to make my setup work in the distributed environment I run it in (I have Postfix and Dovecot on separate servers)
errant geyser
yeah I'm just trying to make caddy, haste server and iRedMail not hate each other
Which is proving to be quite difficult
If I do it for 380, it just dies
I don't have the brain power for this
Ima leave it until tomorrow
jovial warren
when do you ever have any brain power 
unkempt tangle
errant geyser
when do you ever have any brain power <:fingerguns:730681133200834592>
I had enough brain power to get it to sort of work, then nuke it and use their docker instead
If I turn off caddy it works, but thats not very good, so uh, yeah.
frigid badge
what's your configuration
old wyvern
😮
forest pecan
ocean quartz
old wyvern
steel heart
errant geyser
what's your configuration
Docker: the same as on iRedMail/dockerized GH, with 80 and 443 replaced with 380 and 3443 for the host port, because I couldn't think of anything else.
Caddy:
mail.katsumag.me {
proxy / localhost:380 {
transparent
}
proxy / localhost:3443 {
transparent
}
}```
static zealot
static zealot
why is google cloud ui so bad? Or is it just mee?
prisma wave
i don't think it's that bad
half harness
lol i just spent like 5 minutes figuring out why i had classnotfoundexception when starting server in my plugin... package was me.dkim1375.coolplugin and not me.dkim19375.coolplugin 🤦
static zealot
idk I really want to host this bot but idk what vps is good enough for like not 10$/mo. Like is the OVH starter good? I was looking ad VPS prices few days ago but forgot everything I found xD
static zealot
I think I'll go with that one for 1 month. I'll have to learn to set it up tho
fuck that'll be so much pain
half harness
wot are u doing
static zealot
also I assume I chose distribution and application not just distribution ?
ocean quartz
lol i just spent like 5 minutes figuring out why i had classnotfoundexception wh...
Not only it's ugly but having numbers in packages is confusing af
prisma wave
^
prisma wave
also I assume I chose `distribution and application` not just distribution ?
context?
prisma wave
uh
prisma wave
oh right
static zealot
I guess Ubuntu? https://i.imgur.com/gPN4kIV.png
static zealot
and they got the 20.10 version. nice
well I guess I'll just give it a try. not going to buy that nitro anymore
static zealot
so much to learn 😦
prisma wave
docker is pretty simple too
you could do it without if u want
but docker is great
rather than setting up the environment (eg gradle, jdk etc) on every machine, it's just 1 command
static zealot
I mean I've only used like 4 commands in linux ever and those were given to me by piggy
lmao
prisma wave
lol
oblique heath
i think the absolute easiest way to get the bot going on linux is to just use tmux or screen to run it detached
quiet depot
@static zealot should’ve chosen 20.04
it’s lts
also, yes, they will require your id eventually
finally
quiet depot
you wanted their cheapest cos
vps*
because the most expensive is overkill for a bot
what does your bot do?
static zealot
well I have something similar to #816184744797929522 it checks for some things in messages and if its right it adds a +1 and -1 as a reaction if not deletes it sends warning. also few commands
quiet depot
that’s nice
static zealot
I found a dedi to upgrade to but turned out they were out of stock
maybe that one would've worked
oh nvm I wonder if I can cancel if I didn't pay yet
quiet depot
if you haven’t paid and you want to cancel, then just don’t pay
static zealot
oh will it auto-cancel? k then
static zealot
the vps. I thought it didn't create the order. wanted to switch to 20.04
quiet depot
lol you can switch after
static zealot
oh well... xD
hearty pendant
Hi, I have one and very big problem. The %statistic_time_played% stopped refreshing. Idk why, when I write just this command /papi parse me %statistic_time_played% the time is always the same. I tried to restart server, nothing help. My server is on Paper 1.16.5
hearty pendant
Wtf?
oak raft
?
hearty pendant
For what is this link?
oak raft
click it
hearty pendant
I need to write it here right?
oak raft
write it there
forest pecan
Yo
i found my dream job
$30-$40/hr
damn that isn't too bad tho ngl
for a pay
ocean quartz
Decided to give gradle kts a try and omg I had never seen a build.gradle without warnings and grayed out stuff 🥺
obtuse gale
My favorite moment with gradle groovy dsl was when it was literally just all error red.. literally all of it, and it still built fine lmao
hot hull
Just refresh gradle
hot hull
Fixes stuff like 99% of the time for me
hot hull
:))
old wyvern
<@!235475470806679554> Have you played around with renderer yet?
Just started
hot hull
I got kicked out of the lobby on the final stage of the boss, I'm sadge ;C
old wyvern
lol
hot hull
Just started
Let me know if you need design input, cause you know, I pro designer
old wyvern
👍 👍
jovial warren
@static zealot you're using OVH? noice
didn't know you were over 18 lol
actually I think the human verification where you have to send in a copy of your driving license, passport, or a bank statement within the last 3 months to prove you're 18 is just a UK thing
distant sun
Security++
jovial warren
lol
hot hull
I don't think I've ever had to prove my age on a site before
jovial warren
banking?
actually you probably set that up face to face in a branch
and I set mine up over Barclays mobile banking
hot hull
Imagine setting that up through the interwebs
jovial warren
lol
also, I'm really tempted to add player list header footer to Krypton and put some text on top and underneath the tab list lol
PacketOutPlayerListHeaderAndFooter what a packet name lol
jovial warren
ah yeah, I would have, if I hadn't got my mum's permission to use her details lol
somehow, if you say to stripe that you're a 38 year old woman, they won't question it lol
quiet depot
no need to use parents details on stripe
jovial warren
there is if you're 16 and you're signing up for Stripe Connect for GitHub Sponsors lol
quiet depot
oh
that's a division of stripe connect
pretty sure it's called stripe connect custom
jovial warren
yeah it's literally the only Stripe account you must be 18 for
quiet depot
it's the only kind of stripe connect account (there's 3) that requires you to be 18+
jovial warren
https://github.com/sponsors/BomBardyGamer got it setup though in the end
also had to sign a tax form under my name and my national insurance number (basically the UK equivalent of a social security number, but you get it when you're 16, and it's what legally entitles you to work and pay income tax)
quiet depot
yeah I've gone through that too
I did that all last year in an attempt to mitigate paypal from eventually killing my account
assumed if I became a business I could legally use it
jovial warren
yeah iirc, you can use PayPal at 16 if you own a business and use a business account
also, on another note, I kinda feel like a bit of a dick for putting my Patreon and GitHub sponsor in Krypton's FUNDING.yml lol
I mean, I am kinda head dev though so
also also, added support for Epoll and KQueue the other day into Krypton, until I realised that they only work on Linux and FreeBSD and that Windows doesn't have a native IO system so I still use NIO lol
but it'll be very useful for Linux and FreeBSD
since Epoll is rapid iirc
oh btw, @prisma wave , https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton/blob/master/src/main/kotlin/org/kryptonmc/krypton/channel/NettyProcess.kt#L32 purpose.exe not found
please explain what that's for 🙂
hot hull
:why:
val f
jovial warren
yeah I'm changing that now lol
old wyvern
unknown ejabberd module: mod_hello_world. Did you mean mod_disco_opt?
Clearly a typo 🙃 , those are so similar
prisma wave
im sure that was used at some point
jovial warren
commit history time is it?
not in initial commit
nope, none of your commits after that use it lol
prisma wave
🥲
jovial warren
ah I see where it's meant to be used
the boss group is meant to be the parent group and then the worker group is meant to be the child group
looks like somebody didn't fully read the Netty user guide lol
right, time to make that change and test
watch it just break
surprisingly, still actually works
also, survival seems to work, but there's no death or slowdown or entities or infinite worlds yet lol
prisma wave
looks like somebody didn't fully read the Netty user guide lol
i didn't read it at all
jovial warren
lol
also, asynchronous user authentication test #1
haven't got very high hopes for this, but it might work
kotlin.UninitializedPropertyAccessException: lateinit property profile has not been initialized what did I tell ya
also, btw, got localised join and leave messages now
okay I think I've found my new favourite locale
Shakespearian English is a thing lol
errant geyser
noice
distant sun
gaem
static zealot
<@!444552204158763016> you're using OVH? noice
yeah. the 3.5$ vps only tho. to host my discord bot
also yeah I'm 19
jovial warren
nice
hot hull
@old wyvern I pushed some stuff, do pull so you don't have to rebase later
static zealot
btw in Kotlin its fine if my util classes are just called Name not NameUtil right? I remember BM or someone saying this.
static zealot
kk. thanks
jovial warren
I like using camelCase for my files that contain extension functions
hot hull
ew
jovial warren
though generally, the files are just one word, so they're all lower case
e.g. bytebufs.kt
metadata.kt
utils.kt
if it doesn't contain a class, it shouldn't be PascalCase imo, since it's easy to get confused
old wyvern
bard
jovial warren
what
old wyvern
<@!235475470806679554> I pushed some stuff, do pull so you don't have to rebase ...
Alrighty
prisma wave
if it doesn't contain a class, it shouldn't be PascalCase imo, since it's easy t...
the convention said otherwise, although Sx did a similar thing
jovial warren
yeah I got that convention from Frederikam lol
jovial warren
ctrl + c is supposed to kill the currently attached process right?
it will perform a SIGTERM if you press it once, and a SIGKILL if you press it more than once
iirc
distant sun
Is there any documentation (with examples hopefully) on the bukkit conversion api?
old wyvern
I tried pressing it multiple times now it seems to make terminal act weird
like commands dotn return their results
jovial warren
@quiet depot might be able to confirm this
since I think he knows more about Linux than I do
jovial warren
yeah some terminals can bug out after Ctrl+C I think
old wyvern
yea reloging seems to be a fix it but its kind of annoying to have to relog everytime
jovial warren
which terminal you using?
old wyvern
ssh w/ PuTTy
jovial warren
ah, yeah wouldn't be surprised if PuTTy broke from a Ctrl+C
static zealot
yo will plugins made with java 8 work on java 11? Or is there something special you need to do?
jovial warren
also, use Bitvise btw
old wyvern
Ill check that out
jovial warren
prisma wave
yo will plugins made with java 8 work on java 11? Or is there something special ...
yeah they should work fine
static zealot
oh ok ty
jovial warren
yo will plugins made with java 8 work on java 11? Or is there something special ...
the JVM is backwards compatible, but not forwards compatible
so you can run a program compiled with an old version on a new JVM, but not the other way around (for what I would think are very obvious reasons)
static zealot
so I should use 11 and say it should compile on 1.8?
jovial warren
I would just say fuck Java 8 lol
Java 8 is only really required for 1.12 and below
1.13+ is fully Java 11 compatible iirc
jovial warren
eh, fair I guess
cater for these idiots who still think that 1.8 is somehow a good version
static zealot
but I can just use 11 and compile it to 8 right?
old wyvern
Yes
jovial warren
yes
old wyvern
set target to 8 in your build file
static zealot
this? yml compileKotlin { kotlinOptions.jvmTarget = JavaVersion.VERSION_1_8
I assume ?
jovial warren
compileKotlin {
kotlinOptions.jvmTarget = '1.8'
}
```yeah that or thisYes
hot hull
If its a public plugin, might be worth it to compile to Java 8
latest or nothing
prisma wave
unless u have legacy support just compile to 11
encourage people to hurry up and update
List.of 🤤
old wyvern
I mean, realistically, people are most likely to avoid the extra hassle of updating for that single plugin. The same as they have been avoiding it til now
prisma wave
yeah well i'd like to see them avoid paper 1.17
old wyvern
🤷
jovial warren
if every plugin just dropped support for 1.8 completely, you wouldn't be able to make servers for 1.8 anymore lol
but that won't happen
and also, a lot of MCM plugins are still 1.8, and good luck getting them to move
old wyvern
but that won't happen
Yea
It may happen at some point after the new paper changes
but not immediately
and seems hes using kotlin so not sure hes missing out on much
Is there any difference* in kotlin stdlib between those java versions?
jovial warren
new Paper changes? you talking about them completely dropping support for Java 8?
jovial warren
Is there any difference* in kotlin stdlib between those java versions?
not really lol
old wyvern
new Paper changes? you talking about them completely dropping support for Java 8...
yes
jovial warren
I still build with 11 though because I want to encourage everyone to just leave 8 to rot away in the grave it's buried in
old wyvern
😂
prisma wave
yeah if ur using kotlin there's not much reason to not support 8
jovial warren
it's been a good LTS version for years, but it doesn't get any updates any more
hot hull
You know what would encourage people to update, if via shit got discontinued
latest client or nada bitch
jovial warren
if ViaRewind got discontinued, nobody would be able to support 1.8 anymore
hot hull
Exactly
jovial warren
I mean, I think that ViaVersion is a great plugin, but ViaBackwards is a bit of a hack, and ViaRewind, well, that's literally the hackiest of hacks
and ViaRewind breaks a lot of things
prisma wave
latest or nothing
lunar cypress
it's been a good LTS version for years, but it doesn't get any updates any more
It does though?
jovial warren
e.g. on a server that I'm a developer on, our factions server (running 1.12) had some issues on launch with 1.8 clients getting told they were cobwebs lol
jovial warren
It does though?
if you count paid extended support then I guess
old wyvern
1.8 clients getting told they were cobwebs
Wait what?
jovial warren
actually, apparently, they're still providing free public updates for it
jovial warren
```1.8 clients getting told they were cobwebs```
Wait what?
we have some lilypads at spawn and ViaRewind told 1.8 they were cobwebs lol
old wyvern
oh, you didnt mention lilypads there earlier xD
jovial warren
yeah ik, I'm a bit small brain sometimes lol
jovial warren
yeah they were getting substituted for cobwebs and players were getting stuck in them
hot hull
❤️
jovial warren
Frosty jump off a cliff
hot hull
omw
jovial warren
lol
hot hull
yes
old wyvern
🙃
jovial warren
you didn't know that?
quiet depot
that’s what I used to use when I was on windows
old wyvern
Didnt notice xD
jovial warren
it's basically a lightweight version of mingw iirc
old wyvern
I have been using putty for a while now for this
hot hull
Alacritty best
jovial warren
yeah Alacritty best terminal
quiet depot
cli ssh client is the best client
lunar cypress
windows has ssh even without git bash
jovial warren
anyone who uses xterm or i3-sensible-terminal, feel free to depart this channel
quiet depot
can u access it in cmd or only powershell?
prisma wave
i use kitty terminal
lunar cypress
can u access it in cmd or only powershell?
both
quiet depot
o
jovial warren
wait what
old wyvern
oh yea
jovial warren
oml he's right
prisma wave
windows isn't entirely illiterate
jovial warren
okay that's actually amazing
I wish Windows had a command-line text editor though 😦
prisma wave
just use WSL
jovial warren
yeah I have WSL Arch, but it's kinda broken atm lol
old wyvern
edit
quiet depot
the terminal i used on windows had nano
stuck harbor
just use linux tho
jovial warren
I should really just use my fully functioning Arch Linux system
quiet depot
i think it was just the full mingw64
errant geyser
I had to use WSL2 to actually get anything to work
stuck harbor
docker on anything is a pain in the ass to use lol**
jovial warren
also, enabling the hypervisor makes VirtualBox not work, which is also fun
old wyvern
installs vim
lunar cypress
bash -c "nano file" works for me but I'd also appreciate a built in editor
jovial warren
I'd be surprised if that worked in plain ol' command prompt
old wyvern
I'd be surprised if that worked in plain ol' command prompt
which?
lunar cypress
do you actually still have edit yugi?
lunar cypress
it's a 16 bit app lul
stuck harbor
16 bit man
I used to run a 32 bit workstation until a few years ago
that was such a good system
lasted my entire life
prisma wave
lmfao
errant geyser
also, enabling the hypervisor makes VirtualBox not work, which is also fun
You have to use another version of it, and enable the hypervisor platform and stuff. I got it to work in the end, just whatever that app is that emulates an Android phone wouldn't work for me. Aaand then I tried to install a Manjaro VM which wouldn't work unless I disabled it all so eh
prisma wave
bluestacks
errant geyser
thats it
jovial warren
repl.it good for when your school wants to be dick heads and say "you program in Python or you can go fuck yourself", but IntelliJ superior
stuck harbor
lol
lunar cypress
`bash -c "nano file"`
it does provided your wsl distro has nano installed
jovial warren
Python's default IDE? you mean PyScripter?
because that's what we're forced to use
and I've asked the IT department at least 3 or 4 times for IntelliJ and they won't give it to me
old wyvern
JuPy*Ter NoTeBoOk
errant geyser
Python's default IDE? you mean PyScripter?
IDLE
We're forced to use it too. We used to have PyC but I found a way to get into the other network drives we weren't supposed to have access to with it. They didn't like that.
stuck harbor
what the
how does windows operate then
u need to get that sysadmin fired dude
u cant even use vsc
or sublime text
or vim!
also jetbrains has pycharm for python, i think its intellij based with extra python features, like clion or goland
jovial warren
yeah I also asked for Notepad++ like 3 years ago, didn't get it
surprise surprise
so I'm stuck with PyScripter and Notepad
hot hull
my sysadmin is so bad that he literally blocks all EXE files from running
Tell em to go fuck himself, "education" my ass, using outdated shit
quiet depot
sounds like it may have some negative effects on your ability to ask for things in the future
jovial warren
they kinda don't like me because I'm smarter than them
and because I've "hacked" the systems multiple times
hot hull
Go complain to management, education should give you the best possible accessories, not some outdated shit
hot hull
Write a complaint, get others to complain as well
jovial warren
this is the problem with British schools
hot hull
If you have a shit ton of students complaining they're gonna have to do something about it
jovial warren
the teachers are allowed to live on this high horse, where they believe they are somehow "superior" to students
old wyvern
flashbacks of turboc++
jovial warren
if a teacher says something, it's very hard to contest what they say
because they will believe the teacher over the student, even if the student is right
I've complained about it being unfair for years, but nothing will ever get done about it
until I actually become a teacher myself, then I might actually have a voice
we have "democratic" things like student voice and the student council, but they can't really do shit on quite a few matters
but it's still an autocracy at it's heart, since that's how schools work
there are people in charge and everyone else is a peasant
prisma wave
yes education facilities should implement anarcho-communism
hot hull
Bardy, get more people to complain, right now you're the only one I'd presume so they kind of have no benefit in listening to you, whereas if you have an entire class complaining, they will have to atleast consider it
jovial warren
yeah but I'm in the sort of "the one kid who is actually competent at IT" kinda classes
old wyvern
jovial warren
I can program better than the teacher
not even kidding, all he does is just teach us workbooks given to him by the exam board
I know more than he does
hot hull
Well yea, that's what he's paid to do
jovial warren
also, my parents hate him lol
also, https://paste.helpch.at/xiwuxobedu.sql this is why I hate old versions -_-
lunar cypress
yes education facilities should implement anarcho-communism
hell yeah
jovial warren
lol
flat egret
Hello everyone, a friend of mine made a custom plugin for in my server, but how can I change the config? Is it via eclipse or? Want to change the name and stuff, and to change the command itself.
flat egret
No he didnt, I'll ask him to send it then. 😄 , if he sends it I can convert it into eclipse or?
hot hull
No..
stuck harbor
ew eclipse
jovial warren
you can change the config.yml with a text editor
forest pecan
or did they not
jovial warren
config.yml is for configuring the plugin when it's running on a server, not for use to program
stuck harbor
this dude u gotta speak clearly speak to us
hot hull
You don't need an IDE to edit a config file
jovial warren
^
flat egret
Kk, thanks.
jovial warren
yw
hot hull
Go to the plugins folder on your server, open config.yml, edit it, save it and reload the plugin
Or restart the server if it doesn't have a reload command
flat egret
Alright, thanks.
jovial warren
Krypton 0.8 is now out btw guys
big refactor
it should now kick you if you're using a version that's behind or infront of the server
and I put the emphasis on should because I only tested it with 1.13 lol
obtuse gale
should
jovial warren
also, more people should get involved 🙂
hot hull
effort
hot hull
I'd rather contemplate sudoku with world gen
prisma wave
Id get involved if it was in a more modern language
stuck harbor
like clojure?
jovial warren
circlejerking aside BM, you'd get involved if you weren't busy with A-levels
stuck harbor
man a levels are easy u only got 3 subjects man
stuck harbor
/s btw
jovial warren
I have 1 open commission that I'm meant to be doing that I'm not lol
I was given a month to do it from like the 11th last month and I've done fuck all
old wyvern
Maybe talking about that in a public channel is not the best way to go
jovial warren
I'll probably resign from the services team I've gone back to for the second time, since I'm just not motivated by payment
yeah idrc about it tbh Yugi
old wyvern
Would just be rude if the client reads that
hot hull
When you tell them how much experience you have and they just stop responding :sad:
stuck harbor
man commissions are funny cause u have to write it in java
old wyvern
Nah man
hot hull
BM and iwanio, can you two shut the hell up with your "modern" languages
stuck harbor
;)
old wyvern
Elara gonna take all this by storm
prisma wave
no
hot hull
Noone gives a shit
old wyvern
by ElaraStorm I mean
prisma wave
How is f# going
hot hull
Slowly
prisma wave
🥲
jovial warren
Would just be rude if the client reads that
true
stuck harbor
that's an oof
jovial warren
but I doubt they will
prisma wave
Have u discovered the beauty of |> yet
somber tulip
Krypton 0.8 is now out btw guys
What did i do wrong lol https://paste.helpch.at/losameyesa.sql
stuck harbor
I'm gonna have to learn typescript and react now :(
hot hull
Have u discovered the beauty of `|>` yet
I've not done anything today yet, had classes till like an hour ago
jovial warren
What did i do wrong lol https://paste.helpch.at/losameyesa.sql
you gotta provide it with -Dkrypton.world.dir=/C:/Users/some-user/path/to/world/dir, sorry I'm aware that's not clear in the README lol
also, it only works with specific worlds atm
somber tulip
ah okay, so I have to have the world pre generated currently?
somber tulip
Okay cool
somber tulip
Yeah no worries was just checking haha
jovial warren
also, when I say specific worlds, let me explain what I mean
old wyvern
|> best operator
(flip .)🥲
jovial warren
I mean it will only work with worlds that have a 5x5 area of chunks originating from the chunk at 2, 2 where all the sections in those chunks are present and not empty
somber tulip
Okay, do you have an example world I can download and use by any chance?
quiet depot
what gce a level r u getting bm
prisma wave
gce?
quiet depot
idk what they actually are
jovial warren
GCE = General Certificate of Education
half harness
Frosty's working on that
oh so that's why frosty is working on a world gen?
jovial warren
nah you're right Piggy
quiet depot
i just searched up "atar to a level"
stuck harbor
GCE is a level
quiet depot
prisma wave
o idk what that is
stuck harbor
mhm we don't call them GCE
jovial warren
yeah GCE just refers to any educational qualification in the UK
prisma wave
o
quiet depot
right anyway what a level score number thingo r u getting
stuck harbor
u mean grade?
quiet depot
and if u say "idk i haven't got it yet" just look into the future
jovial warren
GCSE is a type of GCE that you gain from completing secondary education, and A-levels are another type of GCE that you gain from completing further education
stuck harbor
whut
stuck harbor
u mean age?
quiet depot
tf
prisma wave
u getting into imperial bm?
cambridge
quiet depot
oh wait i'm blind
stuck harbor
lol nice
quiet depot
it has notes underneath
quiet depot
quiet depot
yeah
prisma wave
uh
quiet depot
cuz in my state when u finish school u get a number that represents your grades for your four best subjects called atar
so they need another arbitrary number to compare it to for international students
stuck harbor
ah
prisma wave
yeah
jovial warren
oh wow
prisma wave
and an EPQ 🥲
jovial warren
you doing further maths?
stuck harbor
I got the option of doing 4 but I wanted a job
prisma wave
yup
quiet depot
is 4 a lot?
jovial warren
I'm doing further maths as well, but I'm only doing 3
stuck harbor
who would do further maths?
prisma wave
normally you do 3
quiet depot
I do 5 atar subjects but idk how comparable these things are
prisma wave
4 is usually too many unless it's maths + further maths
stuck harbor
cs, maths, physics best combo
then u have time to revise and get a job
who needs further maths
quiet depot
flex
prisma wave
further maths is cool
stuck harbor
u would probably fail it
jovial warren
is 4 a lot?
considering the normal amount is 3, and that A-levels contain stupidly high levels of self-study, yes, 4 is generally considered to be a challenge
prisma wave
we learned about bubble sort a few weeks ago 🙃
jovial warren
stuck harbor
man
quiet depot
how many hours bardy
stuck harbor
further maths sounds hard
jovial warren
how many hours bardy
like you do 3 subjects, and you have like 3 lessons of each a week
stuck harbor
so why would u do it if u didnt need it for ur course
prisma wave
so why would u do it if u didnt need it for ur course
personal interest
stuck harbor
a day more like
prisma wave
3-4 lessons per day lol
quiet depot
no i mean how many hours do you need to study per subject per day
or how many are you meant to study for
stuck harbor
a lot
jovial warren
no i mean how many hours do you need to study per subject per day
it's like university, you're meant to know most of the content before you go to the lesson
prisma wave
more than im currently doing 🙃
stuck harbor
but srsly
why would u do further maths when u can do useful things
u need to choose easy subjects
quiet depot
iwanio flex
stuck harbor
so u can get high grades and get into uni
hot hull
Do you need this as a json file, or can I have you just generate a custom object for it, confused about the actual semantics of this or whatever the fuck you'd call it
prisma wave
further maths makes normal maths pretty much free
jovial warren
why would u do further maths when u can do useful things
I swear you insult maths like that again and https://tenor.com/view/ill-find-you-iwill-kill-you-taken-gif-5513044
quiet depot
imagine going to uni and into a cs course where you don't actually need further maths, but u can go up to peeps and be like "bet you didn't do further maths lol, noob"
prisma wave
exactly
old wyvern
What is "further maths"?
prisma wave
not for cs
stuck harbor
u cant win if u dont understand physics
old wyvern
Sounds like something from one of those horror movies
quiet depot
What is "further maths"?
no clue but I'm guessing it's the same as what specialist maths is in aus
prisma wave
What is "further maths"?
just an extra subject that's more detailed / hard maths content
yeah probably
old wyvern
What do you learn in that?
prisma wave
uh
stuck harbor
mafs
quiet depot
year 11 math specialist syllabus https://senior-secondary.scsa.wa.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/576884/Mathematics-Specialist-Y11-Syllabus-AC-ATAR-2020-GD.pdf
stuck harbor
its weird how many universities need high grades in maths for cs
but dont need any cs grades
wut
old wyvern
The requirement for engineering is only science stream + maths here
quiet depot
unis couldn't make money if they did that
jovial warren
but u need physics
no you don't, not for maths, or for CS
old wyvern
Not sure how its there
stuck harbor
man someone tried to convince me to do BTEC game dev
jovial warren
I'm still actually debating whether I want to teach maths or computer science tbh
prisma wave
complex numbers, matrices and linear transformations, more advanced vectors, summation, more advanced calculus, hyperbolic functions, differential equations, lots of stuff
old wyvern
man someone tried to convince me to do BTEC game dev
Do it 🙂
stuck harbor
lol that would be insane
old wyvern
Also its B.Tech*
stuck harbor
BTECs are useless
stuck harbor
Also its B.Tech*
no
quiet depot
complex numbers, matrices and linear transformations, more advanced vectors, sum...
yeah that sounds the exact same as math specialist
old wyvern
Oh you talking about something else?
stuck harbor
🤷
prisma wave
then u also specialise into 2 of further statistics, further pure mathematics, decision mathematics and mechanics
hot hull
Do you need this as a json file, or can I have you just generate a custom object...
@jovial warren
prisma wave
yeah that sounds the exact same as math specialist
there are probably similar things in most places
jovial warren
Do you need this as a json file, or can I have you just generate a custom object...
I need you to be able to give me those values so I can write them as NBT
and also vice versa
old wyvern
We are forced to learn most of that except linear transformations in our th and 12th grades
prisma wave
o lol
old wyvern
Only had linear transformation 2 sems back here
hot hull
So if I provide you with an object containing those values, that's good right?
prisma wave
yeah i think our syllabus is comparatively easier than most countries
jovial warren
yeah provide me with those values and I can handle the r/w
prisma wave
like americans do calculus in like 9th grade
jovial warren
and let me also be able to provide you with those values
old wyvern
What other subjects do you have?
stuck harbor
mafs
old wyvern
yeah i think our syllabus is comparatively easier than most countries
Nah, my country's education is just fucked
prisma wave
o lol
prisma wave
what age is 12th grade?
stuck harbor
205
hot hull
7
prisma wave
oh that's the same age as we do it then
stuck harbor
so thats year 1 6th form
old wyvern
mhm but our choice for subjects is kinda limited
stuck harbor
its not year 12 you cretins
old wyvern
And things are just too competitive here
stuck harbor
school ends at year 11
old wyvern
People care about scoring more than udnerstanding
prisma wave
damn
jovial warren
its not year 12 you cretins
it is year 12 you cretin
jovial warren
prisma wave
thats the most depressing looking building ive ever seen
stuck harbor
or lower sixth and upper sixth
``` cough
stuck harbor
no its only the last one
the first two are tricks
northern ireland doesnt even exist
prisma wave
northern "ireland" 🤢
stuck harbor
'northern' ireland
forest pecan
Sir this is #dev-general
ocean quartz
Why do yall have to complicate things? "1st year of 6th half"
forest pecan
tf
ocean quartz
That's stupid
prisma wave
secondary ends at year 11
you are wrong
stuck harbor
no
forest pecan
wait no more school after 11?
prisma wave
indisputably
forest pecan
so like
stuck harbor
no year 11
forest pecan
no college?
stuck harbor
age 16
prisma wave
stupid
ocean quartz
We just have year 1 to 12, simple as it gets
stuck harbor
after that is 6th form
forest pecan
We have Kindigartan, 1st Grade, 2nd Grade
etc
to 12th Grade
then college
lmao
stuck harbor
we have reception, year 1, year 2, up to year 11
they are called different things for a reason
forest pecan
reception
prisma wave
whats the reason
forest pecan
why is called that
stuck harbor
year 11 is the most you are required to do
prisma wave
not anymore
stuck harbor
wu
prisma wave
u have to be in education until 18
stuck harbor
u can do an internship
most people in my area did internships
at factories and shit
ocean quartz
What grade are you? "Oh I'm 1st year of 6th form second division, combatent captain of the first honorary"
prisma wave
lmfao
stuck harbor
you could just say like "year 5"
or "lower sixth"
man i think its just cause wales is different
cause we have different laws
cause devolution
prisma wave
what a lovely country 🙂
prisma wave
WTF
stuck harbor
doesnt even have its own government
prisma wave
why would you say that
stuck harbor
sucks to suck
stuck harbor
mmmhm
frigid badge
idk why but I keep losing more and more interest every single day
stuck harbor
in what?
frigid badge
this shit is boring
stuck harbor
what shit?
frigid badge
my job
stuck harbor
what job?
frigid badge
programming
stuck harbor
sadge
prisma wave
burnout 😦
ocean quartz
Lemmo become a famous cod streamer
frigid badge
Lemmo become a famous cod streamer
lmao
frigid badge
I don't have much choice in what languages I use lol
prisma wave
dont
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I am doing so at the moment
stuck harbor
php is not too baad
prisma wave
i understand your pain
old wyvern
Elara to Php compiler??
prisma wave
god no
old wyvern
😂
stuck harbor
:))
frigid badge
I think it's more the fact that I've been working for so long on this one project
and in languages I dislike
stuck harbor
finish it then
frigid badge
I haven't learned anything new in the past year
hot hull
Lemmo I forgot to DM you, expect to hear from me soon
ocean quartz
That's very sucky, I'd be just as bored >.<
frigid badge
I'd rather build like big infrastructure
instead of a shitty as website for some client who doesn't understand
with garbage code everywhere
prisma wave
yea infrastructure is so cool
stuck harbor
in go?
prisma wave
id love to have a practical use for azure or GCP or something
stuck harbor
b
frigid badge
I mean we use azure a lot
frigid badge
but we don't have that big architecture to be honest
frigid badge
it's still expensive as fuck
prisma wave
yeah
prisma wave
kinda crazy how expensive it is
stuck harbor
simple
frigid badge
I've used it before to make a whatsapp knockoff
surreal quarry
firebase looks pretty cool
stuck harbor
fire is based ngl
its a file object 🤢
File file = new File();
something like that
obtuse gale
val file = File(name) :)
stuck harbor
man
obtuse gale
^
quiet depot
We have Kindigartan, 1st Grade, 2nd Grade
kindergarten
obtuse gale
auto file = std::fstream(name);
static zealot
hmm if I have 4 variables (integers) and I want to check if 2 ore more are bigger than 0 what would be the best way to do it? I feel like 1 big if statement or multiple ifs is not the best (well at least how it looks). Kotlin btw
stuck harbor
no
obtuse gale
hmm if I have 4 variables (integers) and I want to check if 2 ore more are bigge...
a for loop?
prisma wave
arrayOf(a, b, c, d).count { it > 0 } >= 2
that
static zealot
ah. idk why I didn't think about that. ty
obtuse gale
depends on what you're wanting to do exactly tho
obtuse gale
mkdirs will also create parent dirs
mkdir needs them to be created
createNewFile requires the parent dirs to be created
prisma wave
FileWriter
stuck harbor
/s btw
prisma wave
or FileOutputStream for something more low level
prisma wave
yeah use that
quiet depot
d;files#write
ruby craterBOT
prisma wave
i always forget Files exists lol
obtuse gale
Burn
quiet depot
what
obtuse gale
if if if if if
prisma wave
arrow code
half harness
take picture of taskbar 👀
frigid badge
imagine using a non default theme
old wyvern
if (if == if) {}
frigid badge
;p
quiet depot
lemmo why don’t u go apply for nl google
stuck harbor
imagine not using gruvbox
old wyvern
if;
if (if, if, if)
}```have u seen the office?
old wyvern
IfLang
frigid badge
or anything high level lol
frigid badge
No I quit school for a reason
stuck harbor
get a computer science phd
frigid badge
In my country you can't just start a degree like that
half harness
invert all those if statements
quiet depot
no there’s this red head chick on the office i can’t remember the name of, she basically just walks in and says she’s the manager, then she becomes the manager
so u should just do that, but with google
stuck harbor
In my country you can't just start a degree like that
then move 😉
obtuse gale
What was that language that only consisted of spaces, tabs and newlines?
quiet depot
should work fine
frigid badge
lmao I'll try
stuck harbor
go to
frigid badge
whitespace @obtuse gale
frigid badge
you first ask consent to the file
old wyvern
Or we take you to court
half harness
😂
frigid badge
exactly
and you can try to catch the exception but that'll throw a SecurityException
old wyvern
sometimes even a DeathSentenceError
stuck harbor
DeathSentenceException
old wyvern
Sorry, no
prisma wave
indentation
old wyvern
You cannot recover from a death sentence sadly
frigid badge
fun fact: to shutdown your application we try to open a file without consent
half harness
-.-
stuck harbor
efe why do u have gradlew.bat open
prisma wave
half harness
efe why do u have gradlew.bat open
lmao
hot hull
@jovial warren What's this exactly, I presume material?
block: The block the layer is made of.
forest pecan
kindergarten
i cant spell lmao