dev-general

[frigid badge]

@distant sun are you using ktor?

[distant sun]

Exposed

[frigid badge]

ah

[regal gale]

I'm just wondering if dnSpy can decompile Java or not

[jovial warren]

just set the new values

[distant sun]

any idea if I need to call commit() ?

[jovial warren]

e.g. ```kotlin
val playerEntity = PlayerEntity.find { PlayersTable.uuid eq uuid }
playerEntity.name = "New name"
commit() // not actually sure if this is required or not, but I like to use it

[distant sun]

ok

    fun hasAccount(uuid: UUID): Boolean {
        return transaction(database) {
            UserEntity.find { UsersTable.gameId eq uuid.toString() }.firstOrNull() != null
        }
    }```
Better way of doing this?

[lunar cypress]

p sure exposed has a uuid type

just a side note

[distant sun]

I know Johnny but I manipulate a database that is not created by me and gameId is a varchar(191)

[hot hull]

:kek:

[winter iron]

varchar(191)

so random

[unkempt tangle]

Did you know

Square Enix took Final Fantasy 7 and made a battle royal out of it

No kidding

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orsHm-1nIBI

[regal gale]

Sir this is #dev-general

[onyx loom]

Sir this is #dev-general

[half harness]

Sir this is #dev-general

[forest pecan]

Sir this is #dev-general

[static zealot]

Sir this is [REDACTED] sent from China

[hot hull]

Sir this is #dev-general

[half harness]

I saw that 👀

[static zealot]

yeah but they redacted it 😦

smh China

[half harness]

🙄

[steel heart]

Mad sus

[prisma wave]

Sir this is #dev-general

[obtuse gale]

https://c.tenor.com/Hk1_kHEWKk8AAAAM/vsauce-michael.gif

[stuck harbor]

man

rust

👌

[onyx loom]

shush

[stuck harbor]

i wanna make a minigame server, using geezer so its cross-platform, and all the plugins are made in clojure

that would be very funny

too many threads

[lunar cypress]

@prisma wave any resources you can recommend for writing standalone gradle plugins?

[prisma wave]

nothing in particular

the official documentation is decent

[stuck harbor]

lein :)))

[prisma wave]

i sorta just trial and error-ed it

[hot hull]

When in doubt, stack will help you out

[stuck harbor]

man i was testing a plugin earlier

oh my that stack overflow error cause gson was like noh plugin must die

it couldn't understand the location variable

so i just set it as transient :)))

and disabled the location functionality

the best solution to any problem

[hot hull]

Might I remind everyone that the dude who decided Enum#valueOf should throw an exception if none match, is a fucking retard, Thank you very much.

[half harness]

😂

[forest pecan]

https://pulsebeat02.github.io/MinecraftMediaLibrary/

[half harness]

?

[forest pecan]

meh or nah

the theme

[hot hull]

Disgusting

[forest pecan]

need to find better ones

lmao

[hot hull]

Anyone wanna judge this readme https://paste.helpch.at/zecuzekozu.coffeescript

[jovial warren]

looks good to me

[jovial warren]

anyone here ever broken something more by adding on to it btw?

[steel heart]

yes

it tends to happen a lot

[jovial warren]

lemme show you this lol

without sending an update light packet for the chunk

with the update light packet

[obtuse gale]

Lol just don't make air opaque

You doofus

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/uhfw.gif

also, wanna see the hacks.exe I used to make the light update packet even function?

https://paste.helpch.at/ogiwefiqec.coffeescript

lol

[stuck harbor]

dont use a hacky solution in lower level systems

use a good one instead

[jovial warren]

making Krypton is basically shoot first, ask questions later lol

a.k.a make it work first, fix it up later

[hot hull]

aka most larger projects

1. Make code
2. Clean code
3. make code work again
4. ???
5. Profit

So I need to design a company from scratch for a class, any tips?

[steel heart]

Pull the Civil Software Engineer card and make it enterprisy as hell

[ocean quartz]

Sounds like you're in for another bukkit

[stuck harbor]

man

bardy make a good api

with clojure support

like goood clojure support

[hot hull]

iwanio, I will shove that clojure support so far up the place where the sun don't shine

[stuck harbor]

man

sadge

but my threads

[hot hull]

make clojure compile to java

[stuck harbor]

mah threads

[prisma wave]

it literally does?

[hot hull]

You don't need your threads

Even better then

[stuck harbor]

(:gen-class
``` right?

[prisma wave]

mhm

[dusky drum]

anyone knows python3 and can help me why function (sort) like doesnt sort my text?

[stuck harbor]

what

be specific

[half harness]

and give the code

we can't help you if you just say "my function doesn't work" ;-;

[stuck harbor]

python is interpreted so it's just like the opposite of rust when it comes to errors

[dusky drum]

i did this:

and it just gave me the same as input

[stuck harbor]

mm well

what library is sorted from?

[dusky drum]

idk its default python library no need to import anything.

[stuck harbor]

ah it's in the std

[hot hull]

Oh you got std's, yikes

[dusky drum]

?

[stuck harbor]

standard library, not sexually transmitted disease, frosty

we call them STIs here

sexually transmitted infections

less ambiguous

[dusky drum]

... i restarted pc and it started working great...

[stuck harbor]

that's python for ya

2/10

beginners should learn rust

[dusky drum]

well i do know python pretty well but never ever came across something like this.

[jovial warren]

yeah but the difference between Krypton and Bukkit is that I will actually fix the code

[hot hull]

@old wyvern

[jovial warren]

😐

I fixed the issue with lighting

I was fucking putting the bits in the wrong order

because yet again, I don't know how to read

😔

[static zealot]

oh

[hot hull]

Don't feel too bad, I can't read either

I need to fish ;C

[obtuse gale]

How's jogging going so far?

[hot hull]

Haven't jogged today, my legs hurt from yesterday still

Will probs go either tommorrow or the day after

[onyx loom]

fatty

[obtuse gale]

Oof

[hot hull]

Did you just call me fatty

[onyx loom]

yes

what u gonna do about it

[hot hull]

Eat chocolate

[onyx loom]

o give me some

[hot hull]

It's rice chocolate :))

Also no, you called me a fatty

[onyx loom]

nothing wrong with that

[hot hull]

Fishing

It's small tho, just like my brain

Okay a bit better

[ocean quartz]

Sir this is #dev-general

[half harness]

lol

[forest pecan]

@half harness are you making an anticheat

lol

[static zealot]

Sir this is [REDACTED]

fuck man... china again

[half harness]

no

[forest pecan]

o

[half harness]

im not making an anticheat

[hot hull]

Correct channel

[forest pecan]

Sir this is [REDACTED] protests

damn it

China why

[static zealot]

man China is [REDACTED]

[obtuse gale]

This is off-topic for devs

[forest pecan]

Fefo is [REDACTED]

[obtuse gale]

Indeed

*gets banned*

[half harness]

should I?

[forest pecan]

no

lmao

[half harness]

ok

[obtuse gale]

Lmao

[forest pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/reject-modernity-return-to-monke-monke-gif-19167526

[half harness]

im just preventing wall scaling

[static zealot]

lets [REDACTED]

oh you know what

time for VPN

ok here

lets invade China

[forest pecan]

i love to have [REDACTED]

fuck

[static zealot]

VPN time Pulse

[unkempt tangle]

Is there a mod that refill automatically furnaces nearby?

[static zealot]

China can suck my balls

[half harness]

mod?

[forest pecan]

Connecting to ExpressVPN

.

..

[unkempt tangle]

yes

[forest pecan]

...

....

[half harness]

#minecraft

[static zealot]

..... ?

[forest pecan]

Connected to ExpressVPN Sucesfully

[unkempt tangle]

Dont adveise me anywhere

I am right right tehre I want to be

[static zealot]

n3w0rk go away. we don't want you. you didn't make us proud

[forest pecan]

^

you disgrace n3w0rk

[static zealot]

you tried to stole some candy? what are you? poor?

[forest pecan]

robbery

[unkempt tangle]

you're*

[forest pecan]

we must give the death penalty

[static zealot]

you don't talk like that with mine and Pulse's son

[forest pecan]

lol

[static zealot]

that's what I thought

for the past 3 days I've kept feeling like I want to punch something very hard. like a wall

[half harness]

wtf

[static zealot]

but I think dkim will be good enough for this

[half harness]

WTF

#off-topic

[static zealot]

I've been listening to Linkin Park, MGK, Distrubed, 30s to Mars and some others

[half harness]

what are those?

artists?

[static zealot]

please listen. especially to the first 2 if you never did

[half harness]

ok

so they're artists

[static zealot]

well artists and groups

of artists

[forest pecan]

Stop the audiop

ban

ban

lol

[onyx loom]

Sir this is #dev-general

[forest pecan]

Sir this is [REDACTED]

wht the fuck

[static zealot]

wait pulse?

[forest pecan]

china passed vpn?

[static zealot]

oh noo

[forest pecan]

fuck

[static zealot]

oh noo

sound the alarms

[forest pecan]

i hear missiles

[static zealot]

China is taking over

[forest pecan]

damn it

[static zealot]

fuck [REDACTED]

[forest pecan]

F

[static zealot]

nooo

[half harness]

ez

[forest pecan]

wait

imma do that too

[obtuse gale]

HAHAHA

[forest pecan]

one sec

[static zealot]

omg

lets do that to China

China sucks

ok it worked

fuck yeah

[forest pecan]

AWW YEA

[static zealot]

it was this easy? if only I knew

[forest pecan]

Lol yea

[unkempt tangle]

Everyone obeys china's regulations.

[static zealot]

We don't

[half harness]

oh what is it now

[static zealot]

China can eat mustard

[static zealot]

he said you're a trash can

I wouldn't open it

you'll get very mad

[half harness]

im assuming he said something along the lines of "Everyone loves china"

[static zealot]

no

he said exactly this:

[half harness]

oh

[static zealot]

DKIM CAN SUCK MY ASS, he's a trash can and eats all the trash I throw at him

[half harness]

im opening it

[static zealot]

idk why he said the first part

[half harness]

lies

it doesn't even have the edited tag

[static zealot]

IDK what to tell you man

https://i.imgur.com/boFwJCE.png

maybe china redacted it for you

China really is taking over

[half harness]

inspect element 🙄

[half harness]

lol

[hot hull]

So I'm fishing, and..

Interesting

[onyx loom]

ok

u love to see it

[ocean quartz]

1.4.31

[prisma wave]

Hate to see it

Get that awful plugin off my device

[half harness]

i thought u said u like kotlin

brister mitten 😢

[jovial warren]

no he hates it now

[onyx loom]

no

[jovial warren]

because he somehow thinks that Elara, Haskell, F#, whatever kinda functional languages he's moved on to now are somehow better

[half harness]

ill do whatever brister says 😤

[jovial warren]

Kotlin good Java bad

that's a fact

[ocean quartz]

BM hates and loves a different language every day

[jovial warren]

efe stfu

[steel heart]

not true

[prisma wave]

am I wrong?

[jovial warren]

what do you know efe

fuck all

I bet you haven't even tried it

[half harness]

what

[jovial warren]

Kotlin

you mug

[prisma wave]

Lmao you're the guy saying F# and Haskell are trash

Having never used them

[steel heart]

haskell is good

[onyx loom]

lol

[jovial warren]

fair enough

[onyx loom]

thjis is true

[steel heart]

it was so simple to make fizzbuzz in it

[jovial warren]

I didn't say they were bad BM

I just can't agree they are better than Kotlin

imo

[onyx loom]

bardy i hope ull be joining us for the weekly language tryouts starting march 1st

[half harness]

is kotlin that bad

efe

[prisma wave]

how can you not agree if you know nothing about them?

[obtuse gale]

Dogshit

[jovial warren]

I know small amounts about them BM

[half harness]

should i stop using kotlin

[prisma wave]

Not enough to make an informed decision

F# is multi-paradigm for example, it can do everything kotlin can

[half harness]

i tried yesterday

for an hour O_O

[jovial warren]

and also, I can't agree with you that something is better than something else if the latter I've been using for about half a year now and the former I've never used

[onyx loom]

if u like the language use it, form ur own opinions, not by anyone else

[prisma wave]

You can't say it's worse either

[jovial warren]

no, I can't

[steel heart]

F#, Clojure and Haskell are good for smaller processes I guess but then OOP and imperative programming is more epic

[half harness]

but i need support, if no one uses kotlin, im gonna die

[jovial warren]

but I can say that I personally prefer Kotlin

[steel heart]

mutability,
no thread safety,
side effects

ah so many pros

[half harness]

false

[jovial warren]

dkim wtf

[prisma wave]

Obviously the "X good Y bad" is a joke, but I can at least say I have an informed opinion

[steel heart]

same

[jovial warren]

you took the words out of my mouth haha

[half harness]

what

[prisma wave]

Rather than saying X good Y bad based on looking at Y for 5 minutes

[steel heart]

javascript is bad

[jovial warren]

fair enough

[steel heart]

a formed and objective opinion

[jovial warren]

efe is right

[half harness]

ok

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/uhfw.gif

[steel heart]

efe your xp should be reset

why not yours

[prisma wave]

Machine code is still a language

[jovial warren]

efe you should just be yeeted

[steel heart]

all the sins

[steel heart]

dkim is dkim

[half harness]

WHAT

NO

NO

DONTTTTTTTTTTTTTT_ _

[jovial warren]

you think Java superior to Kotlin efe

wtf

how

[steel heart]

I mean it kinda is bbg

[prisma wave]

How about we make a rule

[jovial warren]

Conclure stfu

[prisma wave]

You can't say X > Y unless you've used both X and Y for at least 2 months

Why not?

[half harness]

but Y > X

[onyx loom]

does the "no IDE arguments" rule apply here

[prisma wave]

only because you're not used to it

[onyx loom]

or just #development

[jovial warren]

I have used both Java and Kotlin for at least 2 months, and I can say that Kotlin is objectively superior to Java in every way

[jovial warren]

no

[prisma wave]

Almost every way

[jovial warren]

yeah almost

[lunar cypress]

My pc crashed right after i sent that emote

[jovial warren]

Java reflection is vastly superior, I can agree there

[onyx loom]

dkim why do u always delete ur messages

[jovial warren]

but pretty much everything else

[lunar cypress]

I think it's sending me a message

[jovial warren]

Kotlin > Java

[prisma wave]

false

[half harness]

thats so

big

[jovial warren]

@lunar cypress what kinda OS you running? Windows?

[prisma wave]

No I

No u*

lol

[jovial warren]

efe just stfu

[onyx loom]

lol great nick

[prisma wave]

ty

[jovial warren]

nobody wants to hear your useless opinions

[steel heart]

JavaSkript

[onyx loom]

shame that fc is gonna remove it 🌚

[prisma wave]

Not based?

[jovial warren]

and also objectively wrong opinions

lol

[steel heart]

java > kotlin cant disagree on that one

[prisma wave]

If he does he can catch these hands

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/uhfw.gif

[prisma wave]

😊

[jovial warren]

shut
the
fuck
up
you
weird
human
being

[forest pecan]

I hit the jackpot

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/Is9k.gif

[half harness]

i only have 100 karma

[onyx loom]

bardy u have really strong opinions on this

[jovial warren]

on what?

[onyx loom]

and ur opinions seems to rely on kotlin good java bad

[jovial warren]

I have strong opinions on a lot of things

[onyx loom]

.

[lunar cypress]

course

[half harness]

lmao

[jovial warren]

I'm an opinionated person, that's part of who I am Kali

[half harness]

i need xp

[jovial warren]

not your OS, you didn't make it

there's no way you'd be capable of creating an OS

[onyx loom]

🥲

[jovial warren]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[prisma wave]

the so called "free thinkers" when someone says kotlin is bad

[jovial warren]

must I repeat myself again?

I am Autistic

[prisma wave]

🥰

[old wyvern]

Kotlin bad Haskell good

[jovial warren]

I struggle to understand jokes

ffs

well fuck you too then

[prisma wave]

Truth over lies

facts over fiction

[old wyvern]

[half harness]

😳

[steel heart]

justify why kotlin is good

or better than java

[forest pecan]

Cause it has K and Kock

[half harness]

i gtg

[prisma wave]

"hur dur the syntax is cleaner more productive"

[forest pecan]

dkim how old are you

lol

[jovial warren]

right then, here we go

[half harness]

[forest pecan]

lmao actually?

[steel heart]

yo best argument

[forest pecan]

lol

xD

[prisma wave]

type inference for variables only is great!

[half harness]

...

[forest pecan]

dkim

i think

you are 13

[old wyvern]

It must be the vaccinness!!! \s

[half harness]

😮

[forest pecan]

did i guess right

lol

[old wyvern]

dkim is 52

[forest pecan]

hes old af

[jovial warren]

• extension functions
• expression functions
• inlining
• reduction of boilerplate (data classes, etc.)

[old wyvern]

Old man

[forest pecan]

old

[half harness]

anyways gtg

feel free to discuss my age

[forest pecan]

🧓

[prisma wave]

look at the investments.... Andrey Breslav creating vaccines and 5g towers... Coincidence????

[jovial warren]

that's just the 4 I can think of off the top of my head

[forest pecan]

🧓 🧓 🧓 🧓 🧓

[half harness]

no im not that old

[old wyvern]

😮

[forest pecan]

🧓 🧓 🧓 🧓 🧓

[half harness]

wtfff

[forest pecan]

Dkim 🧓 🧓 🧓 🧓 🧓

[half harness]

yes i am 1

how did you know

anyways gtg

byeee

[onyx loom]

when bardy doesnt even mention null safety :clojuremoon:

[forest pecan]

dkim stop being 🧓

[jovial warren]

oh yeah, that too

[old wyvern]

Kotlin: The Conspiracy - Directed by Andrey Breslav, Produced by JetBrains

[prisma wave]

• meh
• double meh (kotlin's look ugly)
• the JVM does that already lol
• records :slight_smile:

[old wyvern]

Wanna know where the Brains come from in JetBrains????? From Brainwash !!!!!!

[prisma wave]

Ever heard of Optional and @NotNull? That's what I thought

[onyx loom]

ikr

imagine needing null safety at a language level 🤣

[forest pecan]

Our IDE's was secretly steeling our credit card information OMEGALUL

[onyx loom]

Optional >>

[prisma wave]

Imagine

[forest pecan]

[jovial warren]

#4 that's not the only reduction of boilerplate Kotlin provides

[old wyvern]

Jetbrains evil corp

[prisma wave]

It's a big part

[forest pecan]

JetBrains Wash Corp.

[steel heart]

• extension functions are nice
• expression functions are nice but its really not something that makes kotlin advantageous in my opinion
• inlining, its nice to a certain extent Idk if this includes inferring types but that's annoying
• it reduces too much boilerplate, the setter getter thing in kotlin feels similar to lombok which I don't prefer

[prisma wave]

Records, new helper functions, type inference. Modern java is pretty much as productive as Kotlin

[old wyvern]

Imagine calling your language nullsafe and allowing types that could be null but not represented as their null types 😫 Type!

[compact perch]

📋 Your paste, PulseBeat_02

https://paste.helpch.at/numinevoje

A member of staff has requested I move your message to a paste,
Most likely beacause it contains a config/error/code snippet.

[forest pecan]

smh

smh

dkim you are back

[prisma wave]

🤣 🤡

[forest pecan]

👴

@half harness 👴

[steel heart]

kotlin creates boilerplate if you want to avoid type inference which is not nice

[prisma wave]

Kotlin dies if there even a tiny bit of ambiguity

[half harness]

intellij has lombok button

[forest pecan]

kotlin doesnt die

you die

[jovial warren]

Lombok ew

[forest pecan]

gross

[prisma wave]

It's so insecure it has to generate null checks for @NotNull variables 🤡

[forest pecan]

disgusting

subhuman

insecure

[half harness]

ok i gtg again

[jovial warren]

Lombok is a nasty compiler hack

[forest pecan]

?plsnolombok

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

Why is Lombok bad?

• It's a compiler hack - the Java compiler isn't designed to modify code, so it can cause difficult to debug errors, or worse
• It requires an IDE plugin, so unless you've properly configured Maven, Gradle and your IDE, you'll get hundreds of compilation errors. This process takes time too, it's not easy
• Lombok'd code won't show in Javadocs
• The code generation is often unpredictable and difficult to debug, and often you'll have to do it "the hard way" anyway
• Java is supposed to be explicit, Lombok hides a lot of key functionality into a subtle annotation which can be easy to miss
• While IDEs support it with a plugin, it's usually more difficult to find specific things, like usages of a getter because they don't exist in the source code
• Finally, Lombok'd bytecode doesn't match the source code, so it causes a pretty annoying warning in IntelliJ

Requested by: PulseBeat_02 • plsnolombok

[jovial warren]

it's code generation at compile time

[old wyvern]

Also does kotlin requires you type the return type if using a block, guess where that isnt a problem??

Ill give you a hint

it starts with Has

[prisma wave]

🥲

[old wyvern]

And ends with kell!!

[ocean quartz]

Elara!

[jovial warren]

fun fact about Lombok btw: JetBrains actually remade the Lombok IntelliJ plugin themselves, since the original plugin would literally break every update

[prisma wave]

Also true!

[steel heart]

kotlin does not really solve the lombok problem just adds it natively

[prisma wave]

Imagine having curly brackets in your language

[onyx loom]

kotlin is just another compiler hack

[jovial warren]

yeah I wish it was able to do what Scala does in terms of type inference

[onyx loom]

it compiles to jvm, compiler hack

[prisma wave]

imagine having to specify parameter types

Couldn't be F#

[forest pecan]

what if kotlin == lombok

[onyx loom]

basically yes pulse

[forest pecan]

it is tho

like the getters

nope

[jovial warren]

imagine replacing curly brackets with things like:

• |
• $
• <>
• []
  and other ugly characters

[forest pecan]

setters

nope

[half harness]

wait

[prisma wave]

None of those replace curly brackets

[half harness]

do kotlin getters/setters show in javadocs?

[old wyvern]

They dont lmao

[onyx loom]

why would they

[jovial warren]

Kotlin has it's own documentation format

[onyx loom]

well actually, kotlin has their own docs

yeah

KDocs

[static zealot]

https://i.imgur.com/k0r23JX.png ♥️

[old wyvern]

None of them have any corelation to what braces do

[jovial warren]

if you choose to generate Javadocs, Kotlin will generate documentation from the Java equivalent of the Kotlin code

[jovial warren]

ew what are those ugly mattstudios libraries

xD

[static zealot]

shh

[jovial warren]

don't kill me pls Matt

[onyx loom]

🥶

mattstudios with his monopoly

[old wyvern]

mf libraries

[static zealot]

I'm sorry bombardy but this will be the last day you can say anything. do it now please before your time runs out

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/uhfw.gif

[prisma wave]

Imagine needing horrible nested brackets when you could just use >> / $ / |>

[old wyvern]

Imagine having impure code

[onyx loom]

couldnt be haskell

[old wyvern]

Imagine having monads but no monadic operators

[prisma wave]

🤡

Wait

[static zealot]

imagine imagining ...

[prisma wave]

Aren't nullable types technically a monad? I guess apart from return

?. is sort of the equivalent of >>=

[old wyvern]

hmm I guess yea

[half harness]

imagine imagining imagining 🙄

[lunar cypress]

I recall a beautiful discussion I had with someone about this a year ago

I think it's more intuitive and beneficial to view T? as an actual union of T and {null} rather than a Monad

[lunar cypress]

hold on, nvm, it was a different question

[half harness]

why is it 10 now

1. kotlin good
2. kotlin epic
3. kotlin awesome
4. kotlin superior
5. java bad

lol

[onyx loom]

i just learnt about when so ill say when

[old wyvern]

Why so?

[prisma wave]

Yeah I don't really think of it as a Monad

But I'm still not 100% sure what a Monad is, so

[old wyvern]

The only reason I can think of for that is that you can "set" a type of T to that

[half harness]

public static <T> Class<T> test(Class<T> clazz) {
    return clazz;
}
```what is the kotlin version of this

[old wyvern]

But since kotlin seems to generally associate assignment with setters, im not sure thats enough of a reason

Unless theres some other reason to think so?

[prisma wave]

fun <T> test(clazz: Class<T>) : Class<T> {
    return clazz
}

[half harness]

how do I set return value?

[prisma wave]

Ohh yeah that won't compile

Fixed

[half harness]

ok

kotlin 😍

[prisma wave]

The syntax is good wdym

[half harness]

this is not worth $10

[prisma wave]

Not exclusively

But I think the syntax is nice

Oh lol

[prisma wave]

Yes it is

[half harness]

no its not

[prisma wave]

I have a crippling addiction to currying

[half harness]

what

[prisma wave]

Lol

Partial application of a function

It's so good

[old wyvern]

Time for kotlin++ ?

[prisma wave]

Yes

Kotlin currying would be AMAZING

[old wyvern]

kotlin#

[onyx loom]

there is yes

[prisma wave]

Yes, but you don't need it most of the time

It's just for interop

Eg if you're working with both and need to make sure it's just "plain old static"

[lunar cypress]

because it is more natural due to the definition of nullable types. They're not a wrapper for T, but a completely separate type. You can define it to be a monad to some degree, but that definition would be superimposed

[half harness]

since kotlin compiles to jvm stuff bytecode stuff what if u decompiled kt code?

[prisma wave]

It would look like slightly weird java

[half harness]

ez kotlin -> java convertor

[prisma wave]

: MyClass()

Other than that, yes

[prisma wave]

Decompiled code looks awful in every language

[half harness]

o

[prisma wave]

Oh yeah you need that too

Haven't used kotlin in a while, kinda lackin

Uh

What are you asking

That looks fine

[onyx loom]

just use class PersonTwo(blkah bla bla)?

uh wat

[prisma wave]

I think so

[ocean quartz]

This is what decompiled Kotlin looks like

[prisma wave]

Any

[onyx loom]

u wouldnt need .equals
toString would work on most objects afaik
probably?
probably?

[half harness]

O_o

[prisma wave]

They all still exist, yes

[half harness]

how do i make constructor in kotlin

[old wyvern]

They're not a wrapper for T, but a completely separate type
They are wrappers in a sense tho, they work* similar to how an Optional<T> would work as a type. Even tho they compile down to an annotation, other implementation of similar features like in C# which compiler there nullable types to actual Optionals.
definition would be superimposed
Im not sure I understand, superimposed by what?

[onyx loom]

class Blah (val name: String)

[half harness]

no i did not

[lunar cypress]

Im not sure I understand, superimposed by what?
by you
https://kotlinlang.org/spec/type-system.html#nullable-types

[prisma wave]

what about it?

That works

oh yeah

Ofc

[half harness]

how do i use streams in kotlin

[prisma wave]

Everything in the java standard library exists

[prisma wave]

Exactly the same way you do in java

[onyx loom]

kotlin has better functions than streams

[prisma wave]

Indeed

[onyx loom]

so theyre basically not needed

[prisma wave]

You don't use streams much

[ocean quartz]

class ClassName(private val plugin: JavaPlugin)

Equivalent to

public class ClassName {
  private final JavaPlugin plugin;
  public ClassName(final JavaPlugin plugin) {
    this.plugin = plugin;
  }
}

[onyx loom]

much better

[ocean quartz]

Kotlin's aren't streams

[half harness]

ic, thx 🙂

[onyx loom]

basically equivalent tho right matt

or atleast closest equivalent

[ocean quartz]

Equivalent but very different

[prisma wave]

Kotlin doesn't really use streams unless you actually want parallelism

the first one

[ocean quartz]

A kotlin "stream" will compile into a normal loop
While java will be functional stuff

[prisma wave]

Kotlin Sequences are very close in functionality to streams

Ugly and not very idiomatic but yeah

[ocean quartz]

I'll smack you for that

[prisma wave]

Yugi btw we probably need lazy sequences

[half harness]

whats bad about JvmStatic

[prisma wave]

In elara

[half harness]

how do I create a singleton in kotlin?

[steel heart]

whats lazy sequence

[ocean quartz]

You don't need it

[prisma wave]

Unless you need interop, it's unnecessary and kinda ugly

[lunar cypress]

if you are talking about sequences, kotlin's equivalent to Java's streams, that is incorrect

[prisma wave]

Like a list but lazy, you can process infinite data and stuff

Streams are lazy

[half harness]

now SWITCh

[prisma wave]

object

[old wyvern]

True

[ocean quartz]

Yes, that's why i was telling them that kotlin's aren't streams, they were referring to normal things like filter, map without sequence

[steel heart]

WOW java no have?

[prisma wave]

Streams are lazy sequences

Most FP langs just have them baked into the language

[steel heart]

oh

[lunar cypress]

boring video

they just run the shutdown command

local server

plugin probably

no

calling shutdown as a subprocess

not even bsod

[prisma wave]

sounds pretty impure

[lunar cypress]

we talked about it here a while ago

no

[jovial warren]

lol

[hot hull]

😮

@old wyvern

[obtuse gale]

Sir this is #dev-general

[hot hull]

sthu

[forest pecan]

Sir no configuration help allowed in #dev-general

[stuck harbor]

Sir this is #memes

[old wyvern]

😮

[obtuse gale]

A lot

[stuck harbor]

a lot

what

[obtuse gale]

Lol

[stuck harbor]

2 a.u

:)

those are actual numbers efe

[obtuse gale]

What kind of "data" though? Bytes?

[onyx loom]

they are actual numbers 🙂

2 astronomical units 🙂

[stuck harbor]

not astronomical units

the other meaning of au

[onyx loom]

2 australias 🙂

[stuck harbor]

noh

[obtuse gale]

I don't think there is any hard limit though

Just what the server can handle

[stuck harbor]

efe it depends what encoding it uses

well unicode is fucking massive

literally massive standard

man efe

google it

man

A?

u mean 10?

A is hex for 10

iirc

or 11

derp

half

half a byte

wait

the number 10, or 10?

oh just the letter A

1 byte

01000001 is lowercase a

well no

compression efe

and header data

and overhead, the bane of assembly developers

and js devs are like what's ram

no efe

that's not how this works

[onyx loom]

what was the unit u were thinking of

[stuck harbor]

I think I got the acronym wrong

but it's like a unit which has no defined meaning

no efe

chunks are a few KiB each

[obtuse gale]

I mean it will grow if there is a shit ton of data in it

[stuck harbor]

u wrong

idk how chunks are stored

probably as 'object'

they are probably stored as block objects

pffffff

objects are bad

mc shoulda used an ECS from the start

fuckin' notch using OOP

:)

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/uhfw.gif

how are you measuring that?

in one chunk?

I ask again

how are you calculating it?

wait what?

what are you saying here?

it's 2.2MB per chunk

you know that right?

didn't you watch the video?

go to 1:35 in the patched video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNWwYYnNiGw&t=95

"a chunk will refuse to save when the data stored inside of it goes over 2.2 MB"

this is a big pepega moment

look at my words again

read what I quoted again

the chunk itself will refuse to save when the data stored inside of the chunk goes over 2.2 MB

[dawn hinge]

:o?

[forest pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaHZLUWwxfQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scj7ZVrL8zM

[jovial warren]

oh btw, here's something that I feel like I haven't done in a little while: Krypton open testing

[prisma wave]

Sir this is #dev-general

[surreal quarry]

No configuration help

When a client tells you that you need to write in java 🥲

[jovial warren]

🥲

anyone up for Krypton open alpha testing btw?

168.119.171.28:22

[inner umbra]

Krypton?

[surreal quarry]

Minecraft Server in Kotlin

[jovial warren]

custom Minecraft server implementation from scratch in Kotlin

[surreal quarry]

Previously known as MineKraft

[jovial warren]

https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton

[forest pecan]

knew someone would say that

lol

[surreal quarry]

Sir

[jovial warren]

very early alpha, but seems to be at least somewhat working

[forest pecan]

says connection reset by peer

[jovial warren]

okay that was my stupidity

I put the SSH port on the end

remove the port

[forest pecan]

oh

[jovial warren]

168.119.171.28

[jovial warren]

[static zealot]

omg

that's so beautiful

[forest pecan]

lol

[static zealot]

Its like the cauldron with lava

[jovial warren]

blitz join

[static zealot]

under water

with snow on top as well

so you can freez, burn and swim at the same time

can't

rewriting a plugin

[jovial warren]

lol

[static zealot]

been working for 2 days now xD

[jovial warren]

[static zealot]

it was so trash had to delete everything

all I have left from it is a bit of my main class and a command or 2

Hmm I'm making a TypeAdapter for gson and I have a list but JsonObject#addProperty() only allows Boolean, Number, Char and String. how would I add a list as well?

to a jsonobject

[obtuse gale]

You can use Gson#toJsonTree(Object, Type), it returns a JsonElement so you can JsonObject#add(String, JsonElement)

[static zealot]

oh thanks

[onyx loom]

no one will stole it

[half harness]

😂

[forest pecan]

wasnt me that made it

reddit

xD

[hot hull]

So I'm farming experience, and there's a dude playing the banjo

Or however the fuck you spell that

[jovial warren]

so true

[hot hull]

Grow a pair and show ze code

[hot hull]

@old wyvern Invincible catto

[remote goblet]

[hot hull]

I think I might be able to get it to 10k

[jovial warren]

can anyone recommend configuration formats to use for Krypton btw?

tempted to just add some configuration options so that it's more usable

[distant sun]

by formats you mean file types or?

[jovial warren]

yeah

e.g. JSON, YAML, TOML, HOCON, whatever other kinda formats exist lol

[distant sun]

json is ew

[jovial warren]

yeah JSON is really easy to parse but also horrible to write

[hot hull]

Just add support for multiple?

[jovial warren]

I guess

[hot hull]

I might start using toml cause it looks really nice

[jovial warren]

yeah but I'm asking what should I use for the server's config

[distant sun]

yaml or toml

and make it keep comments ffs

so you can find what a setting does without having to open a wiki or whatever

[jovial warren]

if the specification doesn't state it keeps comments (like YAML's doesn't), then it ain't gonna keep comments lol

[distant sun]

yaml can keep comments

[jovial warren]

unless I make my own impl

[distant sun]

is just bukkit implementation which sucks

[hot hull]

yaml can keep comments

[jovial warren]

yeah but the YAML specification doesn't state that comments need to be preserved

no

it's SnakeYAML that doesn't keep comments

because the specification doesn't say you should

[distant sun]

but we do say so

[jovial warren]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[distant sun]

:)

[jovial warren]

I'll make it work I guess

[hot hull]

I mean you can have it keep comments if you use reloadFile instead of saveFile

[jovial warren]

we won't be using SnakeYAML anyway

we're using kotlinx.serialization for everything

[hot hull]

Good

[distant sun]

configurate

[jovial warren]

kotlinx.serialization

what's configurate even like?

[distant sun]

a lib made by sponge

[jovial warren]

if it looks anything like ConfigMe then we ain't having it, since I see no point, and frankly don't like the use of separate configuration classes

I mean, it makes your life easier, but it's pretty pointless

[fluid crag]

Does anyone know how to webhook public repo commits into a channel on discord? (not owned)

[jovial warren]

also, configurate is Java

[jovial warren]

you need to be able to generate Discord webhooks and to set them up on GitHub

read here: https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/228383668-Intro-to-Webhooks

also, Sir this is #dev-general

[hot hull]

ConfigMe is disgusting

[fluid crag]

well isn't my topic relevant

[jovial warren]

yeah I hate how it works

[jovial warren]

no configuration help

[fluid crag]

I'm not asking for config help lol

[hot hull]

It's kind of the right place Bardy

[jovial warren]

ah true

maybe

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hot hull]

4head

[jovial warren]

anyway, just follow that guide

[fluid crag]

also, the repos aren't owned by me so there is no 'settings'

[jovial warren]

stfu I will find out where you live

[hot hull]

I'll dm you the address if you wanna come over

[jovial warren]

well then unfortunately you cannot setup a webhook

you need to have access to settings

[fluid crag]

right, ty for letting me know then

[jovial warren]

I hope you're not working for one of those MC servers where the owner owns the GitHub organisation even though they haven't a clue what they're doing

if you are, I feel sorry for you xD

[fluid crag]

I'm just trying to get commit updates of plugins i use so I can view it all in one channel

[jovial warren]

ah right

yeah that's not really possible unfortunately

unless their servers have channels you can subscribe to

actually, thinking of Discord servers, I should set one up for Krypton lol

[distant sun]

it does not

[jovial warren]

Krypton Discord server is now a thing

someone please remind me on the (advertising? is it advertising?) rules here lol

[hot hull]

It is advertising

[jovial warren]

might just add it to the README and direct ya there xD

[hot hull]

better

[karmic fjord]

is there a way to change items in beacon gui

[hot hull]

Doubtful

It's client sided so I don't think so

[karmic fjord]

client sided huh

weird

I could not find anything on the internet

probaly it is

[hot hull]

Use an RP

[karmic fjord]

RP?

[hot hull]

resource pack

[karmic fjord]

items are not in gui

[hot hull]

hmm

[karmic fjord]

can i use reflection or something like that

[hot hull]

Not how it works

[blazing walrus]

You could probably change the items itself through the rp? Like change the diamond.png?

[hot hull]

That would affect other stuff as well tho

[karmic fjord]

yeah if i change diamond.png all diamonds gonna change

lol

[blazing walrus]

Right

[jovial warren]

https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton updated the README now

[hot hull]

WILL CONTAIN BUGS!

[jovial warren]

well I have to warn people

because I don't want GitHub flooded with issues of people complaining that it doesn't work

[stuck harbor]

man they say geyser isnt production ready

pffffft

[jovial warren]

I mean, compared with Krypton, Geyser is ready for Hypixel use lol

but it's not production ready

[stuck harbor]

lol

bugs shmugs

if ya want a stable game, u wouldn't be playing minecraft

[jovial warren]

good point

[karmic fjord]

lol

[jovial warren]

also, join ze Krypton Discord iwanio 🙂

[stuck harbor]

mmm

[stuck harbor]

k

[hot hull]

:kek: ||https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMej8hPrb/||

[jovial warren]

ffs

what is it with you and TikTok lol

[stuck harbor]

boomer?

[frigid badge]

nah not boomer

I agree with bardy

[stuck harbor]

you are also boomer

[hot hull]

bruh y'all keep complaining about tiktok and Imma start posting PH links

[stuck harbor]

man

[reef maple]

Hi, is it possible for a filewriter to format a json (indentation, etc) instead of put every infos on only one line ?

[stuck harbor]

uhh use gson

and use the setPrettyPrinting() on the gson builder thingy

[reef maple]

Okay. Gson need an import from maven ?

[stuck harbor]

yeah

[prisma wave]

not if you have spigot

it's bundled with spigot

[reef maple]

Oooh nice

[stuck harbor]

oh yeah it is, isnt it

[reef maple]

Alright, thanks ^^

[jovial warren]

okay no let's not

[lunar cypress]

staff team btw

[onyx loom]

im happy with that

as long as its good

[jovial warren]

lol

[hot hull]

"staff team btw" You trully don't get a joke do you

[old wyvern]

🤡

[hot hull]

You're an idiot efe

[obtuse gale]

Lmao

no joke half the people in this server have their sarcasm sensors burnt out

Yeah he was gonna share porn instead lowkey

Well

You just said it

Lmao

[errant geyser]

No proof

[obtuse gale]

O

[hot hull]

kek katsu

Are you dumb?

You do realize it's a nickname

[errant geyser]

oh darn you have access to logs don't you

F

[hot hull]

Yes

[jovial warren]

https://i.imgur.com/ak5eVw6.png

https://i.imgur.com/0739OOZ.png

bruh why's it only receiving light update packets (pw = update light, pt = chunk data)

ffs

right, challenge time

section.palette.sumBy {
    if (it.name.value == "tall_seagrass") return@sumBy 2
    GlobalPalette.PALETTE.getValue(it.name).varIntSize()
}
```tell me what's wrong with that code (ik what the issue is, just want to see if anyone else can figure it out lol)

[prisma wave]

😊

[jovial warren]

also, always love to see it https://i.imgur.com/tK3cXuT.png

https://tenor.com/uyuI.gif

[distant sun]

default IJ theme ??

[jovial warren]

yeah this is on my Kali VM lol

I cba to change the theme of IJ on here, I'm only using IJ for viewing Mojang code

I'm trying to understand how Mojang deals with their registries lol

but when you got bogus classes like BitStorage, it's kinda difficult lol

obviously, what this proves is that obfuscation isn't meant for protecting your code from being understood and replicated, it's to cover up the fact that it's a fucking mess

[spring canyon]

Well, it doesn't have to be a mess

[jovial warren]

true

but obfuscated code often is

[errant geyser]

Hey Bardy why did you archive Octo?

[jovial warren]

because it's kinda old and outdated