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jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:16 PM

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first of all, how tf can you program with a fucking 8 space indent

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 5:16 PM

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Oh god

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:17 PM

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tell him he can't code for shit

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Where do people learn to code

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 5:17 PM

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🌚

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 5:17 PM

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That actually forms an arrow

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:17 PM

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https://github.com/Baktus79/GPTeleport/blob/master/src/main/java/no/vestlandetmc/gpteleport/handlers/MessageHandler.java#L41 very nice

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not like that's called from the main class or anything

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Like bruh all my plugins from the start were all copied from a fucking 5$ udemy course, and were still 100 times better than this

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:17 PM

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lol

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imagine copying shit

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doge_ahaha

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 5:18 PM

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Shut yo ass up

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:18 PM

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https://tenor.com/sju8.gif

Tenor

Homer disappearing into bush - The SImpsons

▶ Play video

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 5:18 PM

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If you're not having fun then why do it?

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:18 PM

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because the outcome will be rewarding lol

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 5:18 PM

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internal dread

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 5:19 PM

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Meh, coding is more fun than the outcome

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 5:19 PM

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agreed matt

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:19 PM

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working with Anvil is gonna be a pain in the ass, but when it works, it'll be amazing

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 5:19 PM

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I mean if you code like the dude that made GPTeleport, then I can see why it's not fun yea

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 5:19 PM

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That's why i never finish any plugin

distant sun Feb 22, 2021, 5:20 PM

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^

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relatable

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:22 PM

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same lol

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 5:22 PM

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@obtuse gale

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:22 PM

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KEKW

obtuse gale Feb 22, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Yes

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That's me lol

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I low-key think C++ is a language everyone should learn

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Agree yeah

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 5:24 PM

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have you ever heard of rust?

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we dont need to learn c++ anymore

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mozilla saved us

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:25 PM

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obtuse gale I low-key think C++ is a language everyone should learn

https://tenor.com/uhfw.gif

Tenor

nick young

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C++ is in an ew category of it's own

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std::cout << "Hello World!"

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like wtf is that

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 5:27 PM

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have u tried cpp before

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 5:27 PM

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it's no putStrLn "hello world"

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:27 PM

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lol

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 5:27 PM

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Have you tried a rope before?

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:28 PM

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lol

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 5:28 PM

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hot hull Have you tried a rope before?

https://tenor.com/view/hanging-clown-funny-hanging-by-a-small-tree-gif-11998591

Tenor

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Still growing

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:29 PM

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also, anyone here know about how mineshafts work? because I thought I knew, but after reading the wiki, apparently I don't

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since when did mineshafts have starting rooms lol

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 5:30 PM

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You should integrate Scholtes' procedural dungeons into it

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:30 PM

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procedural dungeons?

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 5:30 PM

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mineshafts, but 400 times awesomer

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:31 PM

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I'm not interested in world generation yet lol

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I just need to know how they can work so I can read them

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 5:31 PM

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I mean you've no choice even if you were, mine will be done in a couple of months, if you squint on one eye

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:32 PM

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I'll probably have made my own world gen system by then lol

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Don't you fucking dare

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:32 PM

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fingerguns

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 5:32 PM

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What I need is if you could send me the default decompiled world gen

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Thanks

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:33 PM

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I could tell you how to deobfuscate and decompile it yourself lol

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also, which mappings do you want? client or server?

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Sure that works too, but not today cause I'm gonna go

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server probably

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:34 PM

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https://launcher.mojang.com/v1/objects/41285beda6d251d190f2bf33beadd4fee187df7a/server.txt

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also, wtf Mojang: https://i.imgur.com/nVe76WY.png

Imgur

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entrances my ass

obtuse gale Feb 22, 2021, 5:37 PM

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jovial warren `std::cout << "Hello World!"`

That's not the only way to write to an output stream so joke's on you lol
It's not about the syntax but about what the language lets you do and what you are able to achieve with it
It's also about learning how things work and why

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:37 PM

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if I wanted to learn about how things work and why, I'd learn assembly, not C++

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or C

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 5:39 PM

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because C++ and C are wildly different

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assembly isn't gonna teach you much more than C would

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once you know the instructions it's just unnecessarily verbose

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:39 PM

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true

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 5:39 PM

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jovial warren like wtf is that

operator overloading?

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 5:40 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 5:40 PM

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imagine if c++ had >>=

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 5:41 PM

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😮

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Does c++ allow defining new operators as well?

obtuse gale Feb 22, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Sort of, not quite, but yes

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 5:42 PM

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hmm seems google says no

obtuse gale Feb 22, 2021, 5:42 PM

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You can define new operators with strings (like how you can use us and ms for microseconds and milliseconds with std::chrono)

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But not operators with symbols

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 5:43 PM

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ah, so would those be usable similar to keywords then?

obtuse gale Feb 22, 2021, 5:43 PM

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what

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 5:44 PM

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As in would those require any additional quotes or something at use site?

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Or just those?

obtuse gale Feb 22, 2021, 5:45 PM

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I don't remember tbh lol

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 5:45 PM

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ah

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ill try googling

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😮 seems 1000ms would be valid
https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/chrono/operator""ms

operator%22%22ms

obtuse gale Feb 22, 2021, 5:46 PM

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%22%22

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Amazing www

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operator "" suffix-identifier
That's the name I guess lol

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Aah here it is

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https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/user_literal

user literal

unkempt tangle Feb 22, 2021, 5:48 PM

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I'm using brave(chrome) for awhile now. But I frankly say firefox is running better.

surreal quarry Feb 22, 2021, 5:49 PM

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objectively wrong

unkempt tangle Feb 22, 2021, 5:49 PM

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My opinion is based on subjective expieriences.

surreal quarry Feb 22, 2021, 5:49 PM

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which means its objectively wrong

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https://tenor.com/Agkx.gif

Tenor

unkempt tangle Feb 22, 2021, 5:49 PM

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Many times the browser acts like you enabled motion blur

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Even moving tabs are laggy shit

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In compare of speed. There are no difference.

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I am better off with ff with performance.

steel heart Feb 22, 2021, 5:56 PM

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?learn-java

compact perchBOT Feb 22, 2021, 5:56 PM

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FAQ Answer:

Oracle Docs:
You should start with this, breeze through this(skipping stuff that doesn't seem relevant like bitwise operators), then hit this.
They're the first three from this larger thing which you should definitely go through overall. But those three should be enough for slightly better understanding of what is happening here without feeling like a huge time sink.
That one is a small part of this larger site wherein "Essential Java Classes" and "Collections" also have good useful stuff

Online Courses:
If you want some free online courses, you can find them on Coursera. Yes they are paid but you can chose to take them for free with the only disadvantage being the fact that you don't get a certificate at the end. Some of the best courses can be found Here.
You can also take a look at Udemy but from what I've seen most of those courses are paid.

Other services:
Some other cool services that will help you learn java are SoloLearn and JetBrains Academy.

As you can see there are plenty of good ways to learn as long as you're willing to invest the time. Have fun learning!

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:02 PM

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okay, I don't know whether I'm being stupid, but in terms of village farms, would anyone have a clue what "ViDF" could be short for?

surreal quarry Feb 22, 2021, 6:03 PM

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Village Dumb Farmer

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:03 PM

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lol

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 6:10 PM

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Villager in da farm

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:11 PM

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also, wanna see something btw?

surreal quarry Feb 22, 2021, 6:11 PM

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perhaps

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:11 PM

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https://ci.kryptonmc.org/job/Krypton/

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Krypton CI reveal pog

surreal quarry Feb 22, 2021, 6:12 PM

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krypton domain reveal

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pog

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:12 PM

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that as well lol

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latest build somehow succeeded

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so now you can download and run the jar for yourself

surreal quarry Feb 22, 2021, 6:12 PM

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pog

obtuse gale Feb 22, 2021, 6:12 PM

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That's no good 😰

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:13 PM

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wdym?

obtuse gale Feb 22, 2021, 6:16 PM

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I can run this in prod 🌝

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:16 PM

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indeed you can

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it does pretty much fuck all atm though so gl

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currently working on structures (for Anvil r/w, world gen is a long way off)

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https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Chunk_format take a look at this joke

frigid badge Feb 22, 2021, 6:17 PM

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docker?

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:17 PM

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it will support Docker

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I'll make a docker file later lol

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unless you wanna make one for me 🙂

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it's only gotta download OpenJDK 11 and run a JAR

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give it a working dir though, so you can inject worlds and shit

frigid badge Feb 22, 2021, 6:20 PM

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it's incredibly simple

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inject?

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lol

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:21 PM

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I mean shove stuff in a folder and have it be available to a container

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what's it called

frigid badge Feb 22, 2021, 6:21 PM

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volumes

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:21 PM

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volumes? mounts?

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that's the one

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oh also, still looking for world donations btw if anyone has one

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preferably a massive one with a lot of different structures generated

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just not ones that take up half my drive please 🙂

hallow crane Feb 22, 2021, 6:37 PM

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is adventure in paper?

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 6:37 PM

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Was merged into master yesteday

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:38 PM

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yeah is now

hallow crane Feb 22, 2021, 6:38 PM

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oh, I still need to shade tho

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not in 1.8

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:38 PM

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1.16.5+ though

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yeah

hallow crane Feb 22, 2021, 6:38 PM

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or spigot

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or bukkit

obtuse gale Feb 22, 2021, 6:38 PM

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And everything related to md5's components is deprecated :kekw:

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:38 PM

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about time

hallow crane Feb 22, 2021, 6:38 PM

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doesn't really effect me then

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still need to shade

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:38 PM

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yeah

obtuse gale Feb 22, 2021, 6:39 PM

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And relocate 🌝

hallow crane Feb 22, 2021, 6:39 PM

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yea

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obv

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I have experience with issues like that lmfao

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:40 PM

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never got those issues somehow

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maybe because I don't really make public Spigot plugins that often

hallow crane Feb 22, 2021, 6:40 PM

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yeah.

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:40 PM

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I know what the issue is though

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I haven't worked on a Spigot plugin in days now lol

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been working on Krypton too much

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https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton

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formally known as MineKraft

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actually works btw

hallow crane Feb 22, 2021, 6:43 PM

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developer api?

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:43 PM

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not yet, bloody hell we ain't that far yet xD

hallow crane Feb 22, 2021, 6:43 PM

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not viable

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:43 PM

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there will be one though

hallow crane Feb 22, 2021, 6:43 PM

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there's only villager and player entity

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ur gonna have to update every version that's gonna suck

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:44 PM

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currently, you can join a world with a cube of stone, move around and see other players

hallow crane Feb 22, 2021, 6:44 PM

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chat?

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:44 PM

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yeah

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you can download and test it out for yourself at the new CI https://ci.kryptonmc.org/job/Krypton if you want

hallow crane Feb 22, 2021, 6:45 PM

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id rather compile

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:45 PM

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fair

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also, only works from JAR btw for the moment, due to limitations with reading the tag files that I haven't solved yet

hallow crane Feb 22, 2021, 6:46 PM

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is there adventure chat

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:46 PM

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not yet

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uses my own stupidly lightweight, most likely useless chat component library called Komponent (I know, so original)

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we will use Adventure in the future though

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natively

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 6:49 PM

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https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeFTmvjt/

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:50 PM

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god damn you Frosty xD

forest pecan Feb 22, 2021, 6:50 PM

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imagine using tiktok still tho

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lol

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:50 PM

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ikr

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Frosty shut incoming

forest pecan Feb 22, 2021, 6:50 PM

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it was okay when it started but now

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shut

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:51 PM

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currently working on support for Anvil yako (not the inventory, the other one)

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 6:51 PM

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Pulse

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But did you fucking watch it

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:51 PM

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I mean, can't relate ngl

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 6:52 PM

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i thought it was smth else on her face at first 🌚

forest pecan Feb 22, 2021, 6:52 PM

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its relatable to my grandparents

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lol

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:55 PM

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I wonder how much 1.17 is going to change the protocol lol

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because that's gonna be fun

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 6:56 PM

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fingerguns

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 6:56 PM

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jovial warren I wonder how much 1.17 is going to change the protocol lol

Your sanity go brrrr when that happens

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 6:57 PM

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as I'll likely be the one having to do all the work for it, yes, yes it will

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who knows, maybe we'll have a proper team by then

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or maybe BM will start actually doing shit xD

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:01 PM

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type Player =
{ Name: string
Location: Location }

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:01 PM

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if it was that easy, everyone would do it

static zealot Feb 22, 2021, 7:01 PM

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just to make sure in kotlin I have a forEach. to add a continue I'd use return@forEach ?

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:01 PM

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yes

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:01 PM

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jovial warren if it was that easy, everyone would do it

you are just using the wrong language

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it is easy in actually modern languages

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:02 PM

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stfu before I actually find where you live

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 7:02 PM

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👁️

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:02 PM

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Kotlin is a modern language

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 7:02 PM

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but like

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elara

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rust

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haskell?

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:02 PM

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kotlin isn't modern

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it lacks many modern features

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no pattern matching

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no monads

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 7:02 PM

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Kotlin is so 2016, all my homies use Elara

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:02 PM

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^

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:02 PM

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no memory safety

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no pure functions

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:03 PM

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shut it

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Kotlin bad, Haskell good, Elara good, F# good

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:03 PM

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that's not helpful

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:03 PM

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im not wrong

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u are just stuck in the past

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:03 PM

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maybe, but that is not helpful

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 7:03 PM

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get with the times bardy

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 7:03 PM

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V good

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:03 PM

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we are not rewriting Krypton in a different language and that is final**.**

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:03 PM

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time to move into the 21st century 🙂

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:03 PM

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We are helping you switch

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dw

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Modernizing

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:03 PM

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jovial warren we are not rewriting Krypton in a different language and that is final**.**

Is that a challenge I see

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 7:03 PM

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jovial warren we are not rewriting Krypton in a different language and that is final**.**

Do it in web assembly

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:04 PM

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Time for Krypkell

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:04 PM

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old wyvern Is that a challenge I see

it's a fact

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:04 PM

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rust compiles to wasm 🙂

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 7:04 PM

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^

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Found out yesterday that Kotlin does too

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:04 PM

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o

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:04 PM

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jovial warren it's a fact

Maybe, maybe not

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:04 PM

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ok who wants to help me make a minecraft server in f# or haskell

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:04 PM

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In in

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 7:04 PM

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lol

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:04 PM

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Im in*

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:04 PM

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great

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:04 PM

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xD

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Bois xD

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:04 PM

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how about you pull the finger out and actually start contributing to your project?

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 7:04 PM

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F#pton

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:05 PM

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LMAO

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:05 PM

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i am busy

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:05 PM

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fair enough

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 7:05 PM

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Haspryton

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:05 PM

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however im sure i could take time out of my schedule to using an actually modern language 🙂

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 7:05 PM

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prisma wave i am busy

busy with these already-late commissions? 🥲

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:05 PM

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xD

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:05 PM

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onyx loom busy with these already-late commissions? 🥲

maybe

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:05 PM

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prisma wave however im sure i could take time out of my schedule to using an actually modern...

as I said, Kotlin is a modern language

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:05 PM

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elaborate

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what modern features does it have

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 7:06 PM

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prisma wave ok who wants to help me make a minecraft server in f# or haskell

If only you'd put that enthusiasm in PDM 🙄

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:06 PM

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define "modern"

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 7:06 PM

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ocean quartz If only you'd put that enthusiasm in PDM 🙄

the unloved child 😔

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:06 PM

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ocean quartz If only you'd put that enthusiasm in PDM 🙄

it's not written in a "modern" language you see, so BM doesn't care about it wesmart

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 7:06 PM

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Sadly 😦

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:06 PM

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Does it have a bind operator? Is it built around Monads? Does it have a kleisli composition?

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:06 PM

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^^^

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 7:06 PM

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@prisma wave Rewrite PDM in haskell

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:07 PM

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would that even work?

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:07 PM

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maybe

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JNI

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that could be cool

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:07 PM

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Etalang

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:07 PM

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also, I swear Haskell isn't designed for the JVM

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:07 PM

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https://eta-lang.org/

Eta Programming Language - Haskell on the JVM

Eta is a simple, compact and powerful programming language to build scalable systems on the JVM. It is a dialect of Haskell on the JVM.

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:07 PM

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😮

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 7:07 PM

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There are jvm "ports"

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:07 PM

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o haskell is faster than java

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:07 PM

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Also seems haskell can have impure code if needed 🥲

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:07 PM

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i didnt realise

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that's good

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:08 PM

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not on the JVM though

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:08 PM

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and

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jvm overrated

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does the jvm have pure functions?

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:08 PM

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on a real note I think its pretty close bm

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:08 PM

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https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/fastest/haskell.html

Haskell GHC vs Java - Which programs are fastest? | Computer Langua...

Haskell GHC Java - Which programs are fastest?

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 7:08 PM

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Let's make our own JVM in rust

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:08 PM

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Java's greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:08 PM

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not sure this is 100% accurate but

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:08 PM

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ocean quartz Let's make our own JVM in rust

yes!!!

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 7:08 PM

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With blackjack and hookers

stuck harbor Feb 22, 2021, 7:08 PM

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yes

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:09 PM

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Yea it if look overall its pretty balanced around bm

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:09 PM

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I was just about to say that you finally produced an idea that isn't stupid, but you ruined it Matt

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:09 PM

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ocean quartz Let's make our own JVM in rust

😮

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:09 PM

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jvm in haskell

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that only allows pure functions

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:09 PM

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Lets make java with pointers 🥲

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 7:09 PM

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Creating a JVM in Java, that runs on an existing JVM thonking

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:10 PM

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sounds like a great idea wdym

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:10 PM

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prisma wave that only allows pure functions

That liftIO tho 🥲

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:10 PM

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JVM in Kotlin/Native

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:10 PM

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liftIO should be hung

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This should absolutely not be a thing

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:10 PM

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sadly side effects are necessary

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 7:10 PM

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ocean quartz Creating a JVM in Java, that runs on an existing JVM <:thonking:3795411846972047...

great idea, when we starting?

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:10 PM

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converting IO to Maybe Monads

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:10 PM

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Monads?

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:10 PM

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wot

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:10 PM

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prisma wave sadly side effects are necessary

😫

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

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prisma wave wot

It converts an IO monad to a Maybe Monad

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

#

how

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is it always Just?

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

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Depends

#

if the IO failed it would be Nothing I assume

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

#

o

#

sounds messy

#

but there's probably some use for that

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

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Let me actually confirm this

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:12 PM

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prisma wave but there's probably some use for that

Yes its kinda required to be used in the discord-haskell package it seems

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It uses that to send messages without having to deal with a IO result type

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:12 PM

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hmm

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 7:12 PM

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onyx loom great idea, when we starting?

Already did

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:12 PM

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shouldnt it be IO ()

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 7:12 PM

#

o

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:12 PM

#

o

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 7:13 PM

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Joking btw

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:13 PM

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prisma wave shouldnt it be `IO ()`

wdym?

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 7:13 PM

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Though i think it'd be fun to write a jvm in rust

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:14 PM

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also from the definition it seem it doesnt neccesarily have to be Maybe

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 7:14 PM

#

JustVM

forest pecan Feb 22, 2021, 7:14 PM

#

🥴

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:14 PM

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it's an IO action that returns nothing

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returning a Maybe seems weird

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 7:14 PM

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RVM

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:14 PM

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liftIO :: IO a -> m aSource

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:15 PM

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prisma wave it's an IO action that returns nothing

yes, but I mean, it seems to work

#

Let me show you an example

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 7:16 PM

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old wyvern Does it have a bind operator? Is it built around Monads? Does it have a kleisli ...

Excuse me sir, that was a lot of giberish you just said

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:16 PM

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readMaybe:: Maybe String
readMaybe = do
      res <- liftIO getLine
      res

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:16 PM

#

unironically i dont think there's a huge amount of benefit of building a JVM in rust

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:16 PM

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hot hull Excuse me sir, that was a lot of giberish you just said

It isnt tho xD

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:16 PM

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i dont know much about this but i think most of the data is too dynamic that the lifetime checking and stuff would actually get in the way

lunar cypress Feb 22, 2021, 7:17 PM

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And I get shit on for using fancy words...

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:17 PM

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lmao

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:17 PM

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xD

#

I mean you actually do tho

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:17 PM

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old wyvern ```haskell readMaybe:: Maybe String readMaybe = do res <- liftIO getLine ...

🤔

steel heart Feb 22, 2021, 7:18 PM

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(λx.λy.(λz.(λx.z x) (λy.z y)) (x y))

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:52 PM

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++++++++
[
    >++++
    [
        >++
        >+++
        >+++
        >+
        <<<<-
    ]
    >+
    >+
    >-
    >>+
    [<]

    <-
]

>>.
>---.
+++++++..+++.
>>.
<-.
<.
+++.------.--------.
>>+.
>++.

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now that is a modern language

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:52 PM

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looks vaguely similar to haskell

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:52 PM

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don't ask how long it took me to remove the comments xD

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:53 PM

#

prisma wave looks vaguely similar to haskell

KEKW

#

seems legit

#

that's brainfuck btw, for those of you who don't know

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:53 PM

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<- <. and >>+ could be haskell operators

#

the first one is

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:54 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

love how that code could be compressed into just ++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<.+++.------.--------.>>+.>++.

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 7:56 PM

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readability bardy

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very important, thats why its spaces out 😌

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:56 PM

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https://tenor.com/8x3U.gif

Tenor

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 7:56 PM

#

except

#

https://tenor.com/view/joke-missed-over-your-head-gif-8604199

Tenor

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:57 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/joke-stickfigure-not-affected-gif-14391548

Tenor

lunar cypress Feb 22, 2021, 7:57 PM

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bardy I think you're lost

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 7:57 PM

#

prisma wave 🤔

yea?

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:57 PM

#

wat

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 7:57 PM

#

what does <- do on a Maybe?

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:58 PM

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lunar cypress bardy I think you're lost

you think I'm ever not completely insane when I'm in this chat for extended periods of time? doge_ahaha

obtuse gale Feb 22, 2021, 7:58 PM

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jovial warren don't ask how long it took me to remove the comments xD

Just remove [^+\-\<\>\[\]\.,]

#

Ez

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:58 PM

#

ez program with just comments

#

nice one Fefo

#

don't even

obtuse gale Feb 22, 2021, 7:58 PM

#

Wdym just comments?

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:59 PM

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that will literally remove all the commands

obtuse gale Feb 22, 2021, 7:59 PM

#

That matches everything that is not an instruction

#

Note the ^

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 7:59 PM

#

oh yeah, it does

#

see what I said

#

insane

obtuse gale Feb 22, 2021, 7:59 PM

#

Lol

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:00 PM

#

on a completely random note, I can't tell whether me having so much to do that I don't sit there and wait for a response to messages anymore is a good thing or a bad thing lol

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 8:01 PM

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jovial warren you think I'm ever **not** completely insane when I'm in this chat for extended ...

is this supposed to mean something

#

care to elucidate

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:01 PM

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stop using big words that I then have to Google ffs

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:02 PM

#

monads

#

functors

#

monoids

#

type classes

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:02 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/wHxy2KH.png the amount of times I've seen this now ffs

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:02 PM

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higher kinded types

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:02 PM

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stfu

#

I will actually bury you alive Alex

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:02 PM

#

ok

#

bury me in monads 🥰

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:02 PM

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ffs

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:03 PM

#

referential transparency

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:03 PM

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enough

#

god

#

damn

#

you

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 8:03 PM

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prisma wave what does `<-` do on a Maybe?

Same as on IO

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:03 PM

#

you know what? if you can't beat 'em, join 'em I suppose

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 8:04 PM

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shorthand for handing with a bind in a do

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:04 PM

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so it's binding to the identity function?

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:04 PM

#

Kotlin good Java bad Haskell bad Clojure bad Elara bad OCaml bad F# bad

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:04 PM

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false

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 8:04 PM

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false

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:04 PM

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true

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:05 PM

#

new rule: if you've never used a language you're not allowed to call it good or bad

frail glade Feb 22, 2021, 8:05 PM

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3dthink

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:05 PM

#

Glare!

#

welcome back to whatever the fuck this has become

frail glade Feb 22, 2021, 8:05 PM

#

runs

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

excuse me

half harness Feb 22, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

lol

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

KEKW

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

not my fault u cant keep up with the times and these GREAT languages 🙂

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

where do you think you're going?

#

get your ass back here

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

old wyvern ```haskell readMaybe:: Maybe String readMaybe = do res <- liftIO getLine ...

afaik that's equivalent to ```hs
(liftIO getLine) >>= \res -> res

Right?

lunar cypress Feb 22, 2021, 8:06 PM

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keeping up with the times... haskell...

unkempt tangle Feb 22, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

What is a smithing table do?

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

yes

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

unkempt tangle What is a smithing table do?

https://tenor.com/LgPu.gif

Tenor

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

Isn't Haskell older than java

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

older yet still modern

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

yes!!

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

AHEAD of its TIMES

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

TRULY

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

prisma wave Isn't Haskell older than java

stable release was 2010 dumbass

#

older than Java my ass

unkempt tangle Feb 22, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

what is this good for https://i.imgur.com/9asbsws.png

#

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

Java was around in the 90's

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

jovial warren stable release was 2010 dumbass

#

🙂

obtuse gale Feb 22, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

if i wanted to start a server, what all would i need?

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

first appeared lol

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

#minecraft

lunar cypress Feb 22, 2021, 8:08 PM

#

haskell's first stable release was in 2010 and other jokes to tell your colleagues

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:08 PM

#

also, it's mx + c not mx + b

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:08 PM

#

The TALENTED people really spent 20 years making sure their language was PERFECT before releasing it

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:08 PM

#

more like they spent years trying to make a language and failed several times over

obtuse gale Feb 22, 2021, 8:08 PM

#

obtuse gale if i wanted to start a server, what all would i need?

i'd like to keep my budget within 2k-ish

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:09 PM

#

#minecraft

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 8:09 PM

#

prisma wave The TALENTED people really spent 20 years making sure their language was PERFECT...

kotlin 🤣 releasing it before it was ready in like 5 years 🤣 🤡

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:09 PM

#

Or #805698761442590730

unkempt tangle Feb 22, 2021, 8:09 PM

#

Senpai

#

I moved to bitwarden

#

It's great

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:09 PM

#

you're never clear

#

who tf is senpai

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:09 PM

#

onyx loom kotlin 🤣 releasing it before it was ready in like 5 years 🤣 🤡

🤡 RUSHED and UNSTABLE language

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:10 PM

#

not now it isn't

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:10 PM

#

It is

#

Unironically

#

Lots of experimental APIs and deprecation

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:10 PM

#

I guess that's true

#

most of the experimental API works completely fine though so I don't get why it's experimental

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:11 PM

#

Because they're in testing

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:11 PM

#

I think they kinda just use it as an excuse to be able to change anything they want

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:11 PM

#

well yeah

#

They're experimental

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:12 PM

#

it's like "if we change it and we break your shit, we told you it could break at any time 🙂"

frigid badge Feb 22, 2021, 8:12 PM

#

y'all really have no life

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 8:12 PM

#

no u

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:12 PM

#

very true lemmo

#

I mean, I got Krypton shit I should be doing tbh

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:12 PM

#

jovial warren it's like "if we change it and we break your shit, we told you it could break at...

Yeah, that's the point?

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:13 PM

#

that's what I'm saying

#

also, https://i.imgur.com/JHZYVYD.png 😦

Imgur

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 8:21 PM

#

frigid badge y'all really have no life

Imagine saying that in a block game discord

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 8:21 PM

#

this is true

#

ur also here lemmo, which means u also have no life 🌚

hot hull Feb 22, 2021, 8:21 PM

#

R3kt

frigid badge Feb 22, 2021, 8:21 PM

#

Never said I had fingerguns

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 8:21 PM

#

Who needs a life anyways

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 8:21 PM

#

lol

frigid badge Feb 22, 2021, 8:22 PM

#

says the engaged man

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 8:22 PM

#

shhhh

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:22 PM

#

lol

#

this is where developers with no life come to hang out, circlejerk, do other shit, and most of the time have fun lol

half harness Feb 22, 2021, 8:24 PM

#

👀

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:24 PM

#

it's not circlejerk if it's true

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:24 PM

#

why is that of interest to you dkim

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 8:24 PM

#

🤨

half harness Feb 22, 2021, 8:24 PM

#

o my

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:24 PM

#

o my

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:25 PM

#

o my indeed

stuck harbor Feb 22, 2021, 8:25 PM

#

guess who is setting up clojure and neovim?

#

defo not this guy

#

totally not

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 8:25 PM

#

i dont get the point in this dkim

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:25 PM

#

stuck harbor guess who is setting up clojure and ***neovim***?

wow!!

surreal quarry Feb 22, 2021, 8:25 PM

#

half harness o my

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:25 PM

#

KEKW

half harness Feb 22, 2021, 8:25 PM

#

🙄

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:25 PM

#

You're clearly a clever chap @stuck harbor

stuck harbor Feb 22, 2021, 8:25 PM

#

yep very 100%

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 8:25 PM

#

This one is better

surreal quarry Feb 22, 2021, 8:25 PM

#

lol

half harness Feb 22, 2021, 8:26 PM

#

i dont know

#

funny number

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:27 PM

#

https://i.imgur.com/c3HNhDZ.png

Imgur

#

🥲

lunar cypress Feb 22, 2021, 8:29 PM

#

#

people change

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:29 PM

#

KEKW

half harness Feb 22, 2021, 8:29 PM

#

lol

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:29 PM

#

lmao

half harness Feb 22, 2021, 8:29 PM

#

oh jeez

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:29 PM

#

Character development

lunar cypress Feb 22, 2021, 8:29 PM

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU-xNHDrgeY

YouTube

Justin Kuritzkes

People Change

You're not the guy I used to know.
https://static.macmillan.com/static/holt/famous-people/
My book, Famous People, is out now!

▶ Play video

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 8:30 PM

#

why does he remind me of the guy from flushed away

#

his voice

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 8:31 PM

#

lunar cypress https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU-xNHDrgeY

In a perfect world, men like me would not exist

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 8:32 PM

#

dont say that matt 😦

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 8:32 PM

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl3H4vMqYNo

YouTube

Justin Kuritzkes

In a Perfect World

Variations on a theme.
https://static.macmillan.com/static/holt/famous-people/
My book, Famous People, is out now!

▶ Play video

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 8:33 PM

#

wtf 😂

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 8:33 PM

#

This guy is awesome

lunar cypress Feb 22, 2021, 8:33 PM

#

you gotta love him

ocean quartz Feb 22, 2021, 8:34 PM

#

First video i saw from him was the potion seller one

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:34 PM

#

that is so cursed

lunar cypress Feb 22, 2021, 8:36 PM

#

ocean quartz First video i saw from him was the potion seller one

that's a classic

#

although I actually hadn't seen that one when I discovered him

heady birch Feb 22, 2021, 8:37 PM

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN8GpyJEB2s

YouTube

J.c

How to handle anxiety!!!

▶ Play video

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 8:37 PM

#

prisma wave afaik that's equivalent to ```hs (liftIO getLine) >>= \res -> res ``` Right?

Yes

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:38 PM

#

Cool

#

Which is also equivalent to >>= id?

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 8:38 PM

#

yes

#

Actually

#

theres a slight difference

#

it would be
liftIO getLine >>= Just . id

#

or liftIO getLine >>= \res -> Just res

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:40 PM

#

wait why

#

Doesn't it need return res?

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 8:40 PM

#

no

#

liftIO should turn that into a Maybe

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:41 PM

#

Aah right

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 8:41 PM

#

Which is why the just

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:41 PM

#

Yeah I see

old wyvern Feb 22, 2021, 8:42 PM

#

if it was without liftIO it could be

getLine >>= return . id

prisma wave Feb 22, 2021, 8:42 PM

#

👍

#

Makes sense now

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 8:47 PM

#

heady birch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN8GpyJEB2s

KEKW

#

oh yeah, that reminds me, there's another plugin to add to the list of plugins that will have support for Krypton when it's finished xD

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 9:00 PM

#

which is

jovial warren Feb 22, 2021, 9:21 PM

#

KiteBoard

#

what else

#

it's Niall lol

onyx loom Feb 22, 2021, 9:26 PM

#

o

surreal quarry Feb 22, 2021, 10:00 PM

#

just spent two hours trying to figure out why my nexus docker container isn't accessible, and i tried making a new volume and it worked, which means i have another few hours of figuring out whats wrong with my old data 🥲

#

or i could just say fuck it lose everything and start over

distant sun Feb 23, 2021, 12:08 AM

#

#prayforjames

#

Btw why do you use James if your name is Jaims xd

surreal quarry Feb 23, 2021, 1:07 AM

#

my name is James

#

I came up with Jaims a while ago for shooter games cause it has "aim" in it lol

#

just never stopped using it

regal gale Feb 23, 2021, 1:40 AM

#

Is Github taking too long to respond, or is it just me?

obtuse gale Feb 23, 2021, 1:41 AM

#

Works fine for me

forest pecan Feb 23, 2021, 2:25 AM

#

you just suck ig

surreal quarry Feb 23, 2021, 2:26 AM

#

any obvious reasons ./gradlew build would work locally but not on jenkins
error on jenkins -> https://paste.jaims.dev/okizucuboz.makefile
build.gradle -> https://paste.jaims.dev/ogigujexoy.cs

forest pecan Feb 23, 2021, 2:26 AM

#

🥲

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 2:39 AM

#

thonking

#

i dont have any java processes

#

;-;

#

well this is annoying

#

any ideas?

surreal quarry Feb 23, 2021, 2:44 AM

#

restart your pc

#

fingerguns

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 2:44 AM

#

nooo

#

it takes forever

#

and half the times it bluescreens

#

then it takes even longer

ocean quartz Feb 23, 2021, 2:45 AM

#

Check on task manager for java process

surreal quarry Feb 23, 2021, 2:45 AM

#

it will fix it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 2:45 AM

#

ocean quartz Check on task manager for java process

i did :c

ocean quartz Feb 23, 2021, 2:45 AM

#

And?

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 2:45 AM

#

i killed them all

#

lol

ocean quartz Feb 23, 2021, 2:45 AM

#

Are you sure it's all?

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 2:45 AM

#

uh

#

i closed java.exe and javaw.exe

ocean quartz Feb 23, 2021, 2:45 AM

#

Search more

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 2:45 AM

#

uhhh

#

but

regal gale Feb 23, 2021, 2:45 AM

#

Kill all what's in Task Manager reversed_fingerguns

surreal quarry Feb 23, 2021, 2:47 AM

#

omg this is so annoying. my project builds perfectly in a docker container, normally on my pc, but not on jenkins 🙂

regal gale Feb 23, 2021, 2:47 AM

#

Anyway so this is rather off-dev, but it's also related to js so I'll ask here: when you use View Page Source in browser, inside <script> tag there are a thousand lines of code which are shorten by ... in tail. How can I actually expand it?

forest pecan Feb 23, 2021, 2:47 AM

#

kill System

regal gale Feb 23, 2021, 2:47 AM

#

I can't even find an option to expand

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 2:48 AM

#

https://www.google.com/search?q=kill+all+java+processes+windows

#

I ran jcmd -l but still, same error message

#

😭 😭 😭

#

ocean quartz Feb 23, 2021, 2:55 AM

#

Just either search for the java one or restart (or log out of your account) your pc

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 2:56 AM

#

im just gonna do 25566 port

#

i have too much stuff open to logout

ocean quartz Feb 23, 2021, 2:56 AM

#

And i thought i was lazy

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 2:56 AM

#

lol

surreal quarry Feb 23, 2021, 2:56 AM

#

now you're gonna be running 2 servers lmao

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 2:57 AM

#

O_O

#

[21:57:07 WARN]: **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
[21:57:07 WARN]: The exception was: java.net.BindException: Address already in use: bind
[21:57:07 WARN]: Perhaps a server is already running on that port?

#

wtf

#

i think its intellij's fault or smth

ocean quartz Feb 23, 2021, 2:57 AM

#

Send a screenshot of your processes

regal gale Feb 23, 2021, 2:57 AM

#

Just restart pc for god sake thonking

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 2:57 AM

#

lol

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 2:57 AM

#

ocean quartz Send a screenshot of your processes

1 sec

#

no java

ocean quartz Feb 23, 2021, 2:58 AM

#

Thanks

surreal quarry Feb 23, 2021, 2:58 AM

#

lmfao

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 2:58 AM

#

idk

surreal quarry Feb 23, 2021, 2:58 AM

#

man sent 2 processes

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 2:58 AM

#

lol

#

what

#

u want me to send whole list

ocean quartz Feb 23, 2021, 2:58 AM

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No java

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 2:58 AM

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lol

surreal quarry Feb 23, 2021, 2:58 AM

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no matt

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 2:58 AM

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theres a lot

surreal quarry Feb 23, 2021, 2:58 AM

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yea

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one of them is the server

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 2:59 AM

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a server running on all ports?

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ill try port 28374

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just random number

ocean quartz Feb 23, 2021, 2:59 AM

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Sort it by ram usage

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 2:59 AM

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lol

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oh it works

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servers up

ocean quartz Feb 23, 2021, 3:00 AM

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Also it wouldn't be a java process if it's a server likely it's a windows command processor

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Unless you're one of those that use the gui

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If so, leave

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 3:00 AM

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i dont

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im looking at the list

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im too lazy to google

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what is this?

surreal quarry Feb 23, 2021, 3:01 AM

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killall -9 java

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smh

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 3:01 AM

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uh

ocean quartz Feb 23, 2021, 3:01 AM

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It's a wmi provider host

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 3:01 AM

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why am I scared to run commands said in this chat

surreal quarry Feb 23, 2021, 3:01 AM

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its not a windows command

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lol

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 3:01 AM

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ok

surreal quarry Feb 23, 2021, 3:02 AM

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but it just kills all java processes

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 3:03 AM

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speaking of ports

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i have a question

compact perchBOT Feb 23, 2021, 3:03 AM

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There is no time to wait! Ask your question @half harness!

surreal quarry Feb 23, 2021, 3:03 AM

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There is no time to wait!

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 3:03 AM

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okkk

surreal quarry Feb 23, 2021, 3:03 AM

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Ask your question!

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 3:04 AM

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how come i have to open my firewall and stuff to let ppl come in my server, but they don't have to open their firewalls?

surreal quarry Feb 23, 2021, 3:04 AM

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i believe their firewall is open by default

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you can block all of your own outgoing traffic, but that wouldn't make much sense

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 3:05 AM

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oh

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so incoming traffic is blocked

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but outgoing is not?

surreal quarry Feb 23, 2021, 3:05 AM

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that's my very basic understanding of it

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 3:05 AM

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alr thx

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🙂

half harness Feb 23, 2021, 3:27 AM

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my intellij is failing me :((

obtuse gale Feb 23, 2021, 5:33 AM

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lol

dawn hinge Feb 23, 2021, 6:48 AM

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fix? #7777

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 7:09 AM

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@old wyvern not to flex, but plenty o'relics

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 7:12 AM

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😮

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 7:12 AM

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I'll farm the bp rn

lavish field Feb 23, 2021, 7:24 AM

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https://prnt.sc/104j2lk

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i still dont get what is wrong
ik its this
but why

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 7:27 AM

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You aren't in the main class scope so you can use this

lavish field Feb 23, 2021, 7:27 AM

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what do i need to do to use it in this class

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 7:29 AM

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you need to pass in your main class instance

lavish field Feb 23, 2021, 7:30 AM

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how

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🥲

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 7:30 AM

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Dependency injection

lavish field Feb 23, 2021, 7:32 AM

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do you know a tutorial

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who teaches Dependency injection

steel heart Feb 23, 2021, 7:32 AM

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Frosty does

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 7:33 AM

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?di

compact perchBOT Feb 23, 2021, 7:33 AM

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FAQ Answer:

Dependency Injection
Dependency Injection is a way of providing objects with the objects they need ("dependencies"). This is usually done with a constructor, but can also be done for individual methods
Read more here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependency_injection

Dependency Injection in Java:
https://paste.helpch.at/yijawupoju.java

Dependency Injection in Kotlin:
https://paste.helpch.at/esogakutod.kt

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 7:33 AM

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Where's dependency injection in haskell :sad:

lavish field Feb 23, 2021, 7:34 AM

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ty

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 7:36 AM

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hot hull Where's dependency injection in haskell :sad:

Partial Application sometimes and other times composition 😌

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 7:36 AM

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bruh I still have no idea what these words mean

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No

lavish field Feb 23, 2021, 7:39 AM

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public void method() {
main.myMethod();
} what is that

steel heart Feb 23, 2021, 7:39 AM

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method invocation

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in method

lavish field Feb 23, 2021, 7:39 AM

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okay.

quiet depot Feb 23, 2021, 7:40 AM

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yugi what's your opinion on mixing functional and oop?

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 7:42 AM

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hot hull bruh I still have no idea what these words mean

Partial application means passing only a few arguments that whats required to return a new function that takes the rest of the arguments to complete the call
for eg:

say :: String -> String -> Integer -> IO ()
say name message time = putStrLn $ intercalate " : " [name, message, time]

Now lets say we need a partially applied version of this that only requires the time stamp, we can do

sayHiToFrosty :: Integer -> IO ()
sayHiToFrosty = say "Frosty" "Hi"

So now you can complete the say call with the new sayHiToFrosty function any number of times, you could assume the first 2 dependencies were "injected".

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 7:47 AM

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quiet depot yugi what's your opinion on mixing functional and oop?

I think it would be nice. That also seems to be what a lot of languages are somewhat going for now, i.e, taking inspiration from fp ideas, with streams and stuff for eg.

quiet depot Feb 23, 2021, 7:49 AM

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did you read the blog post about the history of oop I sent the other day?

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it's an interesting read

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talks a little bit about how well functional and oop go together

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 7:50 AM

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I dont think I read it, was in class. Ill have a read now

quiet depot Feb 23, 2021, 7:50 AM

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https://medium.com/javascript-scene/the-forgotten-history-of-oop-88d71b9b2d9f

Medium

The Forgotten History of OOP

Most of the programming paradigms we use today were first explored mathematically in the 1930s with lambda calculus and the Turing machine…

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might even learn something

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I certainly did

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never even heard of message passing before reading that

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 7:51 AM

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old wyvern Partial application means passing only a few arguments that whats required to re...

I kind of get it, but I'm confused

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 7:51 AM

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quiet depot never even heard of message passing before reading that

yea from the guy who coined OOP right?

quiet depot Feb 23, 2021, 7:51 AM

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yes

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 7:51 AM

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He seems to not like what has currently become of oop

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 7:52 AM

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hot hull I kind of get it, but I'm confused

Which part confused you frost?

quiet depot Feb 23, 2021, 7:52 AM

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yeah he's not overly partial to it, especially c++

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 7:52 AM

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syntax confuses me a shit ton, but I get what you're trynna say

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 7:52 AM

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yea c++ is...well lets just say... a mess. Or atleast seems like a bit. I havent used it enough to tell but from what I've seen, its a bit bloated with features

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 7:53 AM

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hot hull syntax confuses me a shit ton, but I get what you're trynna say

ah, fair

quiet depot Feb 23, 2021, 7:53 AM

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I believe the article mentions java is heading in the right direction, or maybe I read that elsewhere, but I believe java is the better of the two when it comes to their oop impl

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ironically javascript has the impl closest to the original meaning

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 7:53 AM

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Wait really?

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I guess his version of OOP doesnt really care around encapsulation and stuff

quiet depot Feb 23, 2021, 7:54 AM

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oh it does

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 7:54 AM

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Js does allow those tho right?

quiet depot Feb 23, 2021, 7:54 AM

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those?

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 7:54 AM

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as in something like access modifers

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ofc theres exports are stuff when going into node and all

quiet depot Feb 23, 2021, 7:55 AM

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js has access modifiers

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 7:55 AM

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Really?

quiet depot Feb 23, 2021, 7:55 AM

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private, public, protected

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 7:55 AM

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wow I thought it didnt

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lmao

quiet depot Feb 23, 2021, 7:55 AM

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hang on I think google is lying to me

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 7:56 AM

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Yea the first result from google seems to be talking about data hiding with function closures

quiet depot Feb 23, 2021, 7:56 AM

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my first result was this but actually clicking on stuff gave me different answers

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 7:56 AM

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yea but open the page tho

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The followings are the access modifiers in most of the object oriented programs.

Private – Access is limited.
Public – Can be access from anywhere, access is not restricted.
Privileged/Protected – Access is limited to the containing class or types derived from the containing class.

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Thats what was actually in there

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xD

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google extracted it out of context

quiet depot Feb 23, 2021, 7:57 AM

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right anyway

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Because they share so many features in common, I like to say that JavaScript is Smalltalk’s revenge on the world’s misunderstanding of OOP. Both Smalltalk and JavaScript support:

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distant sun Feb 23, 2021, 7:59 AM

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"message passing"?

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 7:59 AM

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distant sun "message passing"?

Yea gab

quiet depot Feb 23, 2021, 8:00 AM

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essentially gaby, u send a message to an object, and then the object will determine what to do with it

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e.g. running a specific piece of code

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 8:00 AM

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OOP was supposed to mean just objects communicating with each other (i.e, message passing) to form a program

quiet depot Feb 23, 2021, 8:00 AM

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java doesn't implement true message passing which is why we're not familiar with it

distant sun Feb 23, 2021, 8:00 AM

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I see

quiet depot Feb 23, 2021, 8:01 AM

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java's idea of message passing is just calling a method with some arguments

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that's not what it's meant to be though

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groovy has a better messaging passing impl afaik

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or it might be scala

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i'm not a professional on this, first time I looked into message passing was yesterday

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 8:02 AM

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Not sure, but scala seems to be slighted hated by both oop users and fp users from the people I've heard from 🥲

prisma wave Feb 23, 2021, 8:50 AM

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Scala is odd

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 8:52 AM

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@hot hull https://i.imgur.com/2XGEqS2.png

Imgur

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😦

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 8:53 AM

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L

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 8:55 AM

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I think he turned off DMs from server members as well

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 8:59 AM

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Imagine not having him added

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 9:04 AM

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has he always had them off?

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because in that case then I must've been removed 😦

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also, why we no friends

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doge_ahaha

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Barry good

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 9:14 AM

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God I fucking hate people who extract after 1 round

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 9:14 AM

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lol

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 9:17 AM

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I've opened 10 relics and I still haven't gotten that fucking mirage bp

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 9:19 AM

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wat dis

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 9:21 AM

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WarFrame

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 9:21 AM

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ah right

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@hot hull maybe you just trash

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doge_ahaha

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only bad players blame their team mates for their failure

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https://tenor.com/GwPo.gif

Tenor

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 9:24 AM

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What does that have to do with anything

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 9:25 AM

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hot hull God I fucking hate people who extract after 1 round

looks like you're blaming your team mates to me

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doge_ahaha

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alright, I'll stop bullying you xD

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 9:26 AM

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Blaming them for extracting yea cuz then I can steal their good relic rewards

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I have 3k health and 1k shields, I can solo most shit

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 9:26 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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also, can anyone guess what I'm going to complain about today?

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 9:27 AM

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Haskell?

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 9:27 AM

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ill complain about u in a minute

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 9:27 AM

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https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Chunk_format

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 9:28 AM

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ABSOLUTE BEAUTY

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 9:28 AM

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the fact that future structures are even stored is just ridiculous in itself

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let alone the format they're stored in

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I might have to create my own serialisation system for this

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 9:29 AM

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Do it

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 9:30 AM

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also, gotta love whatever tf this is amirite https://github.com/Kotlin/kotlinx.serialization/blob/master/core/api/kotlinx-serialization-core.api#L6

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"public abstract interface annotation class"

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 9:30 AM

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oh god

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Fuckers extracted after 1 round again

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Goddamn it

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 9:31 AM

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KEKW

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maybe you're just too good

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 9:31 AM

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It's not that I couldn't do it solo, there's 4 objectives to control, and it'd take forever to do it solo

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 9:31 AM

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oh also, guess what btw

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https://github.com/Kotlin/kotlinx.serialization/tree/master/formats

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 9:31 AM

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Cause you know we speedrunning this bitch

prisma wave Feb 23, 2021, 9:31 AM

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"kotlin isn't verbose"

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and other jokes

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 9:31 AM

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kotlinx.serialization is extensible

prisma wave Feb 23, 2021, 9:32 AM

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buzzword

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 9:32 AM

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so I could technically write my own serialiser impl for this

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https://tenor.com/GwPo.gif

Tenor

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oh also BM, guess what else kotlinx.serialization supports

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HOCON
Properties
ProtoBuf
CBOR

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and there are YAML impls

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so I can just write my own NBT impl for this

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 9:35 AM

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Stop saying you can and just do it duh

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 9:35 AM

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I have such a huge brain

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 9:35 AM

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u dont

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 9:35 AM

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Press X to doubt

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 9:36 AM

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ur brain is most likely around the average size of a human being, assuming u are human

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 9:36 AM

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I do have a bigger head than the average person, that is a fact

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doesn't mean I have a bigger brain though

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I'm just much more logical

prisma wave Feb 23, 2021, 9:36 AM

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yeah wheres the ELON implementation

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 9:37 AM

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make an ELON specification first

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in full

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none of this half-assed shit

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thinking if I should bother to make this multiplatform or not

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I'll just make it JVM for now I think

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totally not just going to copy the structure of the JSON serialiser and make it work for NBT

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:27 AM

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[ ()*+=&^%$"/.,|#@;:!`?<>{}\[\]'~\\]now that is what you call a regex

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 10:28 AM

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😬

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:29 AM

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wanna know what that's for?

distant sun Feb 23, 2021, 10:33 AM

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Question, is possible to importa an IDEA project on Eclipse, right?

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 10:34 AM

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:why:

obtuse gale Feb 23, 2021, 10:34 AM

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why

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https://tenor.com/brp2H.gif

Tenor

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:34 AM

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KEKW

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that's called devolving

distant sun Feb 23, 2021, 10:35 AM

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Yes or no, apes

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:35 AM

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yes

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but why

obtuse gale Feb 23, 2021, 10:35 AM

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surely eclipse gets a full rework at some point that actually makes it decent

distant sun Feb 23, 2021, 10:35 AM

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A friend does java this semester and their teacher want to use Eclipse

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:35 AM

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https://tenor.com/Z4Di.gif

Tenor

distant sun Feb 23, 2021, 10:35 AM

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Yeah

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:36 AM

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just tell them "IntelliJ better, so I'm using IntelliJ"

steel heart Feb 23, 2021, 10:36 AM

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Lol

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:36 AM

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man I should be a comp sci teacher lol

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 10:36 AM

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im sure they cant argue with u over which IDE u use

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:36 AM

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exactly

distant sun Feb 23, 2021, 10:37 AM

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I think they can just not accept your submissions.

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:39 AM

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that's not fair though

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just because they use a different IDE and they think they know better

obtuse gale Feb 23, 2021, 10:44 AM

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just convert it to an eclipse project at the last minute

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 10:45 AM

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distant sun Yes or no, apes

Did you just call us apes

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:45 AM

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also, if they reject your assignment because you didn't use a specific tool that is completely personal preference then you can surely report that to the school

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 10:46 AM

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Tell the teacher he's a fucking retard

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:46 AM

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I mean, idk how your system works, but over here, you could get the teacher in trouble for bias I believe (or something like that)

distant sun Feb 23, 2021, 10:48 AM

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Nah he said they can use whatever

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The teacher has light themed eclipse

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:48 AM

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ffs

distant sun Feb 23, 2021, 10:48 AM

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hot hull Did you just call us apes

Esp you :*

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Mine will use code::blocks

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 10:48 AM

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i mean could u imagine a teacher using dark theme

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i couldnt

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:48 AM

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distant sun Mine will use code::blocks

imagine

obtuse gale Feb 23, 2021, 10:49 AM

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unless its in the syllabus surely they cant mark them down on it

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:49 AM

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I mean, at least you get to use Java

obtuse gale Feb 23, 2021, 10:49 AM

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^

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:49 AM

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if I was doing my programming project at school, I'd be forced to use Python with PyScripter

obtuse gale Feb 23, 2021, 10:49 AM

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Im stuck here with VB

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 10:49 AM

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Legit just use advanced shit Gaby, I'm betting he won't know what half the shit does

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 10:49 AM

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at the end of the day ur getting .java files and then a .jar so

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:49 AM

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fucking PyScripter

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barely an IDE

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no completions

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no indexing

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 10:49 AM

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obtuse gale Im stuck here with VB

i feel ur pain

distant sun Feb 23, 2021, 10:49 AM

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:))

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:49 AM

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no dependency management

distant sun Feb 23, 2021, 10:49 AM

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Poor bbg

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 10:49 AM

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i had to do it for my college too

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 10:49 AM

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Imagine having CP at school

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Fucking kek

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 10:49 AM

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distant sun Mine will use code::blocks

🥲

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 10:50 AM

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G code is where it's at

obtuse gale Feb 23, 2021, 10:50 AM

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plus ive got a mac lmao so i have to vnc into my home computer and code with like 4000 ping

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:50 AM

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I've asked for IntelliJ so many times and they just brush it off and don't give a fuck

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 10:50 AM

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Codeblocks gang

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🥲

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:50 AM

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and they block all EXEs so I can't even run a portable version

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 10:50 AM

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AAAAAAAAAAaaa

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white theme

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 10:50 AM

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lol

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 10:50 AM

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Bardy, usb and just transfer it to the pc?

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:50 AM

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think I've used code::blocks before

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 10:51 AM

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would that even work frosty?

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:51 AM

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hot hull Bardy, usb and just transfer it to the pc?

yeah because that's gonna work when I can't run any EXE files isn't it genius

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 10:51 AM

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yeah

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 10:51 AM

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How the fuck do you run other programs then

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 10:51 AM

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everything on a blacklist prob

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:51 AM

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trusted installed programs

obtuse gale Feb 23, 2021, 10:51 AM

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cant you just take in ur own laptop

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:51 AM

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anything that's not preinstalled you can't sue

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because the sysadmin is an idiot

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 10:51 AM

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Legit tell them to go fuck themselves if they force you to use dumb shit

obtuse gale Feb 23, 2021, 10:52 AM

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thatll go down well

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 10:52 AM

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Like okay dinosaur, you use your 40 year old program

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:52 AM

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why does that get yeeted

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fuck you Barry

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 10:52 AM

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legit the sysadmin is a posh arrogant asshole who's barely liked by his own team

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asshole I'd pressume?

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:53 AM

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maybe

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fucking true though

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 10:53 AM

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yep

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thats the BUZZWORD

obtuse gale Feb 23, 2021, 10:53 AM

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ass hole

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problem solved

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 10:54 AM

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nice one barry

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 10:54 AM

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Only in aussie land
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeYjUGTq/

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 10:54 AM

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Æhole

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 10:54 AM

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lmao

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:55 AM

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hot hull Only in aussie land https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeYjUGTq/

KEKW

obtuse gale Feb 23, 2021, 10:55 AM

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java.lang.UnsupportedOperationException
    at java.base/java.util.Collections$UnmodifiableList.remove(Collections.java:1318)```

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wow

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can I tell that to get fucked somehow or nah

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 10:56 AM

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Show what u doing

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 10:56 AM

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how did u even get that error?

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 10:56 AM

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it's called an UnmodifiableList for a reason

obtuse gale Feb 23, 2021, 10:56 AM

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itemPanel.model.items.clear()

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 10:56 AM

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ah yes

obtuse gale Feb 23, 2021, 10:57 AM

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I know that small snippet is very clear

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and tells you everything im doing

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 10:57 AM

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of course it does

obtuse gale Feb 23, 2021, 10:57 AM

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where model is this val model: CollectionListModel<AdditionalDependency>

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 11:13 AM

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Wow google. Just... wow

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Nullable defaults

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With that we end up with this 🙂

pref.getString("key", "") ?: ""

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 11:16 AM

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whats the point 😂

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whats this for anyway yugi

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 11:18 AM

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you know Spigot has that as well right?

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it's a hack lol

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it means they can return null when the value in the default map is null iirc

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I mean, doesn't make any sense why it should be done like that, but it is lol

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/bukkit/browse/src/main/java/org/bukkit/configuration/MemorySection.java#320

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 11:21 AM

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onyx loom whats this for anyway yugi

wdym?

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 11:23 AM

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jovial warren I mean, doesn't make any sense why it should be done like that, but it is lol

I mean especially bad when google calls kotlin Android's official language 😂

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 11:24 AM

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lol

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also, ```java
StringBuilder var_0 = new StringBuilder(" ");
int var_1 = 0;
for (int var_2 = 0; var_2 < param_0.length(); ++var_2) {
int var_3 = param_0.charAt(var_2);
if (var_3 == 92) {
var_0.append('\');
} else if (var_3 == 34 || var_3 == 39) {
if (var_1 == 0) {
int n = var_1 = var_3 == 34 ? 39 : 34;
}
if (var_1 == var_3) {
var_0.append('\');
}
}
var_0.append((char)var_3);
}
if (var_1 == 0) {
var_1 = 34;
}
var_0.setCharAt(0, (char)var_1);
var_0.append((char)var_1);
return var_0.toString();

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it's the code that Mojang uses to escape any characters that don't match the regex [A-Za-z0-9._+-]+

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I know that can be written better

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 11:25 AM

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If you got the regex you need to use, why do you need to decode it now?

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 11:26 AM

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@old wyvern I got a bp for you, but it's MR 8 again so kek

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 11:26 AM

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old wyvern If you got the regex you need to use, why do you need to decode it now?

wdym?

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 11:27 AM

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hot hull <@!235475470806679554> I got a bp for you, but it's MR 8 again so kek

😂

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 11:27 AM

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jovial warren wdym?

I gotta decode this lol
it's the code that Mojang uses to escape any characters that don't match the regex [A-Za-z0-9._+-]+

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escape any characters that don't match the regex [A-Za-z0-9._+-]+

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 11:29 AM

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yeah but looking at this builder, we don't actually have to escape everything

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we only need to escape 3 characters

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so I was wrong

prisma wave Feb 23, 2021, 11:37 AM

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pretty sure clojure can do this in 1 line

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🙂

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 11:37 AM

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old wyvern wdym?

was asking what api it is, but u said to bardy so nvm

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had a feeling it was android anyway

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 11:39 AM

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ah

tropic mountain Feb 23, 2021, 11:40 AM

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Hey, what's the best site to learn java or free?

prisma wave Feb 23, 2021, 11:40 AM

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sololearn is decent

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 11:41 AM

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https://wiki.bristermitten.me/best-places-to-learn-java

Best Places To Learn Java

This guide talks about Best Places To Learn Java

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what happened to ur tutorials bm 😦

old wyvern Feb 23, 2021, 11:41 AM

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Coursera is nice

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PluralSight is godly

prisma wave Feb 23, 2021, 11:41 AM

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havent had time to work on them

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i havent forgotten

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 11:41 AM

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"excuses"

prisma wave Feb 23, 2021, 11:41 AM

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🥲

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 11:59 AM

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Anyone wanna gimme a design I can use for my portfolio?

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Thanks

prisma wave Feb 23, 2021, 12:00 PM

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no

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 12:00 PM

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I mean what I have right now is already amazing, but it needs to be more informative

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https://frosty.op65n.tech

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 12:01 PM

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damn thatss pretty good

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 12:01 PM

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public static String quoteAndEscape(String text) {
    StringBuilder builder = new StringBuilder(" "); // create new builder to store result
    int quoteChar = 0; // initialise a variable to store the char to quote the result in
    for (int i = 0; i < text.length(); ++i) { // loop through every character of the text
        int currentChar = text.charAt(i); // get the character at the current index
        if (currentChar == 92) { // if the current character is 92 (backslash)
            builder.append('\\'); // append double backslash (appends a single backslash, one of them is to escape the appended backslash)
        } else if (currentChar == 34 || currentChar == 39) { // else if current char is " or '
            if (quoteChar == 0) { // if the quote character is 0
                quoteChar = currentChar == 34 ? 39 : 34; // set the quote char to the opposite of what this char is
            }
            if (quoteChar == currentChar) { // if the quote char is the current char
                builder.append('\\'); // append backslash
            }
        }
        builder.append((char) currentChar); // append current char, escaped or not
    }
    if (quoteChar == 0) { // if quote char is none (didn't find an existing quote)
        quoteChar = 34; // set quote char to "
    }
    builder.setCharAt(0, (char) quoteChar); // put quote char at beginning
    builder.append((char) quoteChar); // add quote char
    return builder.toString(); // return result
}
```in this code (renamed stuff and other what not from the original), won't `setCharAt` down the bottom there set the start char to the quote char, replacing whatever was there before?

hot hull Feb 23, 2021, 12:01 PM

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ikr

onyx loom Feb 23, 2021, 12:02 PM

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@hot hull perfect for u with that AMAZING website

jovial warren Feb 23, 2021, 12:02 PM

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oh wait... well that's hard to spot

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it initialises an SB with a space in it, so it's able to replace the space with the quote char

distant sun Feb 23, 2021, 12:03 PM

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:)