dev-general

[distant sun]

yea ignore that

[unkempt tangle]

Senpai wanna play now ;c?

[static zealot]

hey you're getting there.

FrozenGenerator soon™️ ?

[regal gale]

Helix-shaped particles 👀

I need that in my life

This is a helix-shape

Need you to code a particle plugin like that for me 👀

[half harness]

ohhhh math?

that doesn't seem easy xD

[obtuse gale]

that does seem easy lol

[static zealot]

easy

[half harness]

maybe

¯_(ツ)_/¯

wot

[static zealot]

here math: https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Helix.html

easy math

[half harness]

oh

[static zealot]

some cos and sin math ezz

[regal gale]

Also, ik it's easy

But here's a challenge

[unkempt tangle]

https://bukkit.org/threads/1-8-particle-lesson-1-helix-spiral.408264/

[static zealot]

oh look its already done ^ xD

[half harness]

xD

[regal gale]

Make it so that helix will shrink when the laser launch from initial shot, and then shrink it only if touch the finishing point

[old wyvern]

Make some form of non euclidean geometric illusion

[static zealot]

who wants to be my successor?

[old wyvern]

successor to what?

[static zealot]

you'll take over my github account after you die

[old wyvern]

uh sure

xD

[static zealot]

after I die

fuck

[regal gale]

Lmao

[static zealot]

well seems like its sooner than I thought

good bye

[old wyvern]

😮

[hot hull]

Ain't nobody give you permission to leave bitch

Current progress: https://paste.helpch.at/libikuriko.java

I don't want to, I am making it

[unkempt tangle]

Oh gosh

Painful job

[hot hull]

Not really

[unkempt tangle]

Just go ahead and help OTG dev

[hot hull]

No clue who that is

[static zealot]

that's the dev of the plugin OTG

[hot hull]

link

[static zealot]

OpenTerainGneration I think its called

just search

[unkempt tangle]

https://github.com/PG85/OpenTerrainGenerator

He is porting everything to 1.16

[hot hull]

ew he uses eclipse

efe, trying to have a 3d generator done before 1.17 drops so I can adjust it for that then

[hot hull]

meh

[jovial warren]

https://wiki.vg/Protocol#Tags would anyone have a clue what numeric ID is meant to mean here?

(e.g. https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Tag the enderman_holdable tag gives this list: https://i.imgur.com/rZLLRKI.png)

[hot hull]

So it takes 13 sec ish to generate a 10kx10k world, any bets on how long it takes for a 100kx100k

[oak raft]

40 seconds

[regal gale]

Around 45s, I think

[jovial warren]

if the length/width has increased by a factor of 10, the area has increased by 10^2, so I'm saying 1300 seconds

[hot hull]

Which is what like 20 min?

[jovial warren]

21.6 recurring minutes

[hot hull]

damn, was close

[jovial warren]

what was it?

[hot hull]

No I mean the 20min

[jovial warren]

ah

[hot hull]

Trying to make it so positive values are more rough so we can see some mountains

Will start genning it afterwards

Also I lied it wasn't a 10kx10k, it was a 5k world

[oak raft]

-_-

imagine lying

[half harness]

imagine imagining

[hot hull]

Yea my bad, completelly forgot I was diving it by 2

but I mean let's see how long this one takes

[regal gale]

200k 😬

[hot hull]

that'll be a 100kx100k world

[regal gale]

I mean, yeah

But still

[hot hull]

Didn't see this, so kek

[regal gale]

I also forgot your function is dividing by 2

[hot hull]

Now we wait

[steel heart]

frosty pls not premium

or at least open source

[hot hull]

Welp

java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space

Conclure, OS Free

[steel heart]

aye

[onyx loom]

bro just get 1tb of ram

[old wyvern]

What are you keeping in memory my guy

Wait are you doing this on a server or just testing?

[hot hull]

pregening rn Yugi

not sure what you mean by that

dedi go brrrr

[old wyvern]

as in some sort of debugger client?

[hot hull]

nah legit generating into a server

[old wyvern]

ah

[hot hull]

Why?

[old wyvern]

Overhead from other server activities

vs just your generator's data in memory

[hot hull]

Done (41.140s)! For help, type "help"
around 4-5 of those seconds are the other server startup stuff

[old wyvern]

lol

[hot hull]

I need to stop pregening it, but that fucks everything up

[half harness]

https://github.com/dkim19375/dkim19375Core/blob/master/src/main/java/me/dkim19375/dkim19375core/external/UpdateChecker.java
Any suggestions? I haven't tested this yet, will this work?

wot

[static zealot]

wot?

[half harness]

u said

Suggestion: Please delete

[steel heart]

external?

[static zealot]

did I?

[half harness]

;-;

[hot hull]

!

[half harness]

lmao

[hot hull]

get exposed

[static zealot]

I think that's a lie

[half harness]

"external" classes are things that require a dependency like Vault... idk why I put the update checker in external tbh 😂

it's been a while since I updated this

Example url to put in constructor: https://api.github.com/repos/dkim19375/dkim19375Core/releases/latest

[half harness]

Suggestions are appreciated ❤️

[unkempt tangle]

dafuq

[half harness]

wot

[hot hull]

Who knew that running 2.5 bilion calculations took time

Using 24gb of ram, ramming the cpu to the max

pog https://op65n.tech/i/2021-02-10-16-16-14.png

[regal gale]

Damn

[static zealot]

you liar!!! I found the original.

[hot hull]

damn that's a scam

[half harness]

lmao

[static zealot]

how dare you say I said something I never said when you said it?

[half harness]

inspect element? 👀

[hot hull]

photoshop

[half harness]

y photoshop

inspect element easier

[distant sun]

who the fuck uses mvdw api ...

[half harness]

you do

😛

[hot hull]

Why maven Gaby

[distant sun]

is a project from github

[hot hull]

gradle init

[half harness]

i have a question

[compact perch]

There is no time to wait! Ask your question @half harness!

[half harness]

What is the purpose of the version in gradle: project.version?

[static zealot]

you think? then try it.

[half harness]

._ .
Just copy and paste frostys avatar url

then just replace Blitz with Frosty

[static zealot]

false

[half harness]

wot

wdym false

[half harness]

i can't try it bc my computer so laggy that it freezes when i open up inspect element

plus

i dont have access to logs

[hot hull]

8 minutes down, like 15 to go

[static zealot]

why you pinging me frosty? https://i.imgur.com/ZRwLPGg.png

[oak raft]

how do u get that pikachu

[half harness]

false

[hot hull]

IJ allows you to set a bg image

Can you two stop with the incriminating evidence

[static zealot]

Frosty do you mind me just copying your FrozenActions and renaming them to BlitzActions and saying they're made by me? xD

[half harness]

[hot hull]

Sure, idc Blitz

They need a rewrite anyways

[static zealot]

k thanks

yeah

I know

but better than nothing

[half harness]

DkimActions

[hot hull]

Would this be an okay ish way of multithreading or? (Using SERVICE#submit with a runnable)

[half harness]

soon™️

BukkitScheduler#runTaskAsync

[hot hull]

dkim, fuck no

[half harness]

why

[onyx loom]

coroutines or nothing

(joke)

[hot hull]

The calculations don't use the bukkit api (apart from the current generator implementation which will get changed)

[half harness]

anyone have any tips to make intellij not make my computer unusable?

it makes my computer laggy

[old wyvern]

16 threads wont be helpful

[onyx loom]

get a new pc

[steel heart]

Frosty cached thread pool?

[old wyvern]

How many cores does your cpu have?

[half harness]

idk

[steel heart]

or a work stealing one maybe

[old wyvern]

Check your parallelism value

[hot hull]

Executors.newCachedThreadPool(new ThreadFactoryBuilder().setDaemon(true).build());

[old wyvern]

any more than that is decreased performance

[hot hull]

This what I'm looking for, or?

[steel heart]

daemon is for background tasks

[hot hull]

I've no idea what I should be using with this

[half harness]

4

[old wyvern]

What dkim?

[steel heart]

it may be good to set the name format

[distant sun]

https://i.imgur.com/eyHIgik.png web material file icons, cute

[oak coyote]

8 threads yummy

[steel heart]

and set the uncaught exception handler frosty

[old wyvern]

I was refering to frosty

[steel heart]

but daemon is prolly not what u want

[half harness]

😔

🤪

[unkempt tangle]

Anyone

[oak coyote]

but yeah your computer clocking at 1.1Ghz

[unkempt tangle]

wanna play with me ;c

[regal gale]

Should always also notice about the single-thread Minecraft gave to us 👀

[old wyvern]

16 threads with 8 cores = lesser execution time and more context switching

[distant sun]

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/atom-file-icons-web/pljfkbaipkidhmaljaaakibigbcmmpnc

[half harness]

im busy 😦

[oak coyote]

might be the reason

[onyx loom]

1.1ghz in 2021 😬

[half harness]

😅

[oak coyote]

@half harness you only clock at 1.1Ghz so that is your issue

[half harness]

its a laptop

[oak coyote]

yeah ik

but in comparison i'm clocking at 5.1GHz

[half harness]

WHAT

[onyx loom]

lol

[half harness]

I didn't know my cpu was that bad 😦

[unkempt tangle]

mr 20fps

[oak coyote]

it's just laptops

[hot hull]

Anything else?

[half harness]

lmao

[steel heart]

yes

[oak coyote]

they can't go high speeds due to literally melting if they did xD

[steel heart]

the name format should include the format argument

[half harness]

and I thought 3ghz was high

[steel heart]

"terrain-generator-%d"

or smtng

and uncaught exception handler -> lambda > anonymous instantiation

also Idk what exactly you do, but you may want to use a work stealing pool (ForkJoinPool)

[half harness]

is it good to use final methods?

[oak coyote]

i do it cause it's habit

[steel heart]

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/essential/concurrency/forkjoin.html

read here frosty

[oak coyote]

i don't know if it makes much of a difference

[steel heart]

if it suits you or not

[half harness]

what happened to your old profile picture

[surreal quarry]

think it just means that the method can't be overridden

[oak coyote]

I changed it

[steel heart]

final is nice

[half harness]

oh

[regal gale]

final everything

[oak coyote]

i final everything that should be final

[surreal quarry]

use it unless you need to override the method

[half harness]

time to have the word final on clipboard

xD

[surreal quarry]

vim macros

[steel heart]

coding with vim

nice

[half harness]

i code on github.com

[surreal quarry]

i code on paper

then scan it as a pdf

convert pdf to text

[oak coyote]

i code in notepad

[surreal quarry]

compile manually

[oak coyote]

yeah

[old wyvern]

I code on punch cards 🙂

[surreal quarry]

imagine letting some "computer" compile your code for you

[half harness]

i gen all project files in intellij then code in github sometimes 🙂

[hot hull]

Takes 5 sec for a 50k world now

[steel heart]

pog

[hot hull]

issue is that the generation is fucked cause async

[surreal quarry]

wdym

[steel heart]

maybe reflect the server thread

[steel heart]

and then run the runnables on it bypassing timings etc

[hot hull]

Since each thread uses a different generator, meaning it doesn't know the previous value I'd presume

[old wyvern]

Why is that noise so smooth

Are you using a single noise generator frost?

[hot hull]

Yes

[surreal quarry]

just dont do it async

[old wyvern]

Might want to superposition multiple ones

Theres blog about all this but I dont have the link rn, should be relatively easy to find on google

[hot hull]

James, it took 17min for a 50k world sync, and 5 sec when multithreading

[regal gale]

#dev-general message

[surreal quarry]

consider using sync

thanks

[hot hull]

No.

[half harness]

is it possible to know if my code is async or not? (Such as putting all code in a runnable, then running two bukkit tasks - one async, one async)

[surreal quarry]

some things have an isAsync method

[steel heart]

well

[surreal quarry]

depends where you are

[steel heart]

^

[half harness]

just a runnable

[old wyvern]

Impure code bug

Wouldnt have happened in haskell 😌

[hot hull]

Elaborate more on that

[half harness]

final Runnable r = () -> { stuff(); }

[old wyvern]

State mutation

[steel heart]

dkim depending on where the runnable runs it may be sync or async in respect to other operations

[hot hull]

This is the current code
https://paste.helpch.at/vosomitufu.java

[distant sun]

v2.4.5 getters, v2.5.6 public fields

[half harness]

final Runnable r = () -> { stuff(); }
Bukkit.getScheduler.runTaskTimer(r, i forget what params);
Bukkit.getScheduler.runTaskTimerAsynchrously(r, i forget what params);

[static zealot]

frosty you may not need it you may not want it but this was a cool series I watched a while ago about terrain generation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbpMiKiSKm8&list=PLFt_AvWsXl0eBW2EiBtl_sxmDtSgZBxB3 I don't remember a lot from it but I remeber it being pretty good.

[steel heart]

oh dkim

[static zealot]

but a lot of videos so you might not want to waste that much time

[steel heart]

thats async/sync to the main threead

or server thread rather

[half harness]

yes

[oak coyote]

@distant sun Why break encapsulation?

[steel heart]

its probably not beneficial

[distant sun]

stop asking me these questions ffs

IS NOT MY CODE

[steel heart]

if the getter and setter only act like vessels to a state of the object then they're pretty much redundant

[static zealot]

@hot hull

[hot hull]

I saw the message yea

[static zealot]

oh sorry xD

[hot hull]

I watched this a while back

[steel heart]

now ofc encapsulation is still beneficial as you can substitute the actual state beneath

[hot hull]

Might actually follow it

[static zealot]

ah ok then. yeah I remember it being very nice but I don't remember a lot of what was said lmao

[hot hull]

I watched a few university courses on noise, kind of forgot everything already

[jovial warren]

lol

[hot hull]

This dude is an absolute legend tho

[jovial warren]

you talking about Iridium?

yeah I've told Peaches about this 100 times over by now

[hot hull]

You said 21min for 100k world, took 17min for a 50k world, didn't have enough memory for 100k singlethreaded

[distant sun]

yes

[steel heart]

its nice

public fields do be lit

[half harness]

how do I detect?

[jovial warren]

you can blame das for that

[steel heart]

BukkitTask#isAsync

iirc

or

[half harness]

then how do I get the bukkittask from the runnable ;-;

[steel heart]

use Consumer<? super BukkitTask>

[jovial warren]

runTaskTimer returns a BukkitTask iirc

[steel heart]

if a runnable is passed ye

[jovial warren]

and so does runTaskTimerAsynchronously

[steel heart]

it returns void if a consumer of bukkit task is passed

[half harness]

is there a way to use like Threads or smth to see if its on main thread?

[surreal quarry]

dkim you should know if its async or not

[steel heart]

what

[surreal quarry]

look at the method you use

[half harness]

im curious

[steel heart]

in worst case catch the main thread

[surreal quarry]

if you use a method that is named blahBlahAsync it implies that it runs async

[steel heart]

then use

Thread == thread

[half harness]

oh

ok

[jovial warren]

Bukkit.isPrimaryThread()

[half harness]

d;spigot Bukkit#isprimarythread

[ruby crater]

org.bukkit.Bukkit#isPrimaryThread

public static boolean isPrimaryThread()```

Description:

Checks the current thread against the expected primary thread for the server.

Note: this method should not be used to indicate the current synchronized state of the runtime. A current thread matching the main thread indicates that it is synchronized, but a mismatch does not preclude the same assumption.

Returns:

true if the current thread matches the expected primary thread, false otherwise

Requested by: dkim19375 • spigot

[hot hull]

2 minutes in and I'm already crying by this terminology

[half harness]

ooo

[jovial warren]

also, whoever's idea it was at Mojang to release the ProGuard mappings for all versions 1.15+ is a literal god

[steel heart]

idk

but it is phenomenal

[jovial warren]

it means that I can steal look at how Mojang does it and put something into MineKraft

[steel heart]

big brain

[surreal quarry]

MineKraft

is that

kotlin

minecraft

[jovial warren]

maybe

[surreal quarry]

very interesting

[jovial warren]

https://github.com/knightzmc/MineKraft

[half harness]

oh

so thats how u got the name

[jovial warren]

indeed it is

[half harness]

public class main extends JavaPlugin implements CommandExecutor, TabCompleter, Listener
```:)

[jovial warren]

get out

[onyx loom]

ima shoot u

[surreal quarry]

pain

[jovial warren]

what a surprise that the Notchian server is one of those with a util class very helpfully named Util

[half harness]

lol

[jovial warren]

love how this shows how wrong the Bukkit team were in their naming that makes actual logical sense

definitely wrong to think Notch has more than about 3 brain cells functioning at any given time

also, if they're releasing ProGuard mappings, why don't they just open-source the whole lot? lol

or at least, the server

[steel heart]

Notch wasn’t particularly experienced in coding

[jovial warren]

I can tell

[half harness]

lol

[steel heart]

Thought he did start the creation of minecraft

But maybe

No

[half harness]

no?

[steel heart]

It’s sus

[jovial warren]

maybe they could've, idk, rewritten it all from scratch?

[surreal quarry]

you're sus

[jovial warren]

they've got the time and resources to do so now

[half harness]

purple is sus

[steel heart]

They have rewritten major parts ever since?

[jovial warren]

probably

[ocean quartz]

MineKraft sounds so much like a famous book from a famous Austrian painter

[prisma wave]

🥲

[jovial warren]

omfg lol

[hot hull]

It reminds me of something else, but that's a yikes

[jovial warren]

say it

[hot hull]

Some german thing that was popular a while back

pog

I wanna make a cleaner renderer for world generation, should I do that or nah?

[jovial warren]

make something that works and open-source it so I can steal it and use it in MineKraft

[hot hull]

Bardy most of the stuff I've been making for the past year is OS

Even some of the commissions

[old wyvern]

Skript? xD

[hot hull]

nono I meant a german place

[jovial warren]

https://i.imgur.com/dA790GU.png that's not caused by what I think it is is it

[old wyvern]

ah

[hot hull]

The name sounds german

[jovial warren]

it's not due to... relocation

but it can't be

actually it can be

actually it can't be

[prisma wave]

🥲

[jovial warren]

I'm using PDM, and both my projects depend on the same version

[half harness]

._ .

[hot hull]

efe, a better thing to say is come over I wanna break your kneecaps

[half harness]

lol

[jovial warren]

https://i.imgur.com/aRmxWqy.png

https://i.imgur.com/NMDpMrJ.png

[half harness]

lol I thought you said pls ban im not joking

😳

how do u make github repositories not public?

[prisma wave]

dont

🙂

[half harness]

;-;

[jovial warren]

you make a repo, and you select that option that says "private"

[half harness]

noo like

an existing repo

[jovial warren]

or you click the little cog that is for settings

and you go to the danger zone area

[half harness]

danger zone 😳

[jovial warren]

and you click the thing that totally doesn't clearly say "change repository visibility"

[half harness]

😅

[jovial warren]

it's dangerous if you use things you can only get with public repos

[half harness]

oh

[jovial warren]

it'll tell you why it's dangerous when you click it

[half harness]

ok

thx

[jovial warren]

yw

[half harness]

code scanning?

[jovial warren]

imagine blanking out the repo name

[half harness]

lol

[jovial warren]

wonder which one of these you're making private

[half harness]

👀

[stuck harbor]

dkim19375/porndownloads

[half harness]

😳

[stuck harbor]

that's the repo

[jovial warren]

[half harness]

lol

[jovial warren]

gotta be a decent name length if you blanked out that much

[half harness]

uh

i gtg

afk

[jovial warren]

lol

[stuck harbor]

mhm sure u do

[half harness]

;-;

[stuck harbor]

:)

[half harness]

oh wait

afk

[prisma wave]

what

what foul thing is this

an array of functions * b?

[old wyvern]

f sharp?

[prisma wave]

yeah

just trying to figure out wtf this error means lol

[jovial warren]

ah not a bad language

actually readable

unlike cough Clojure cough

[old wyvern]

Looks like its a tuple of a function array and some generic type?

[prisma wave]

yeah i think i fixed it

[old wyvern]

ah

[prisma wave]

i think it was something to do with currying / 2 parameters

currying it seems to work

[old wyvern]

ah

[jovial warren]

currying?

[old wyvern]

function currying

partial application

[jovial warren]

currying sounds like the sort of word I'd expect to find in a scam document lol

[old wyvern]

if you have a function f(a,b)

f(a) returns a function that takes b to give the actual result

[lunar cypress]

What part of ∀f ∃g (f (x,y) = (g x) y) did you not understand?

[old wyvern]

let f(x,y) = x * y

let g(x) = f(2)

repeat(10, g)

Heres an example in elara 🙂

[prisma wave]

🙂

[prisma wave]

how embarassing

[old wyvern]

Atrocious

[prisma wave]

it's beautiful

[old wyvern]

[onyx loom]

😂

[jovial warren]

wow

[prisma wave]

now i need to make it not show up in discord

they'll never see it coming

[jovial warren]

where you putting that?

[prisma wave]

on my website

[jovial warren]

oh you're gonna paste that as an answer in #general-plugins aren't you

[prisma wave]

it'll be like https://wiki.bristermitten.me/deluxemenus-1-16-setup-guide

no

[onyx loom]

can we get a link to it pinned in this channel too 🙂

[prisma wave]

just whenever people use the wrong channel

off they go

🙂

[jovial warren]

[onyx loom]

👀

[jovial warren]

ffs fix your fucking SSL Alex

god damn it

it's not rocket science

[onyx loom]

[prisma wave]

that subdomain doesnt even exist lol

thats probably why

smh

[onyx loom]

i jsut clicked ur link

[jovial warren]

certbot certonly --dns-cloudflare --dns-cloudflare-credentials certbot/cloudflare.ini -d wiki.bristermitten.me ez

and anyone who uses Cloudflare DNS and doesn't use the Cloudflare DNS module for Certbot is an idiot

[prisma wave]

i use certbot

but

theres literally nothing configured for that subdomain

yet

[old wyvern]

bm

[prisma wave]

i told you

[old wyvern]

make it DOMAIN/help/<some-query> and let all those routes be pointed to haskell

🙂

[prisma wave]

lmao

[old wyvern]

so we can make many such ones

[prisma wave]

ive got it setup for a random functional language

so

yeah yeah

[onyx loom]

lmao

[prisma wave]

it will accept any route

[old wyvern]

awesome

[prisma wave]

and redirect to a random functional language

🙂

oh ive got elm twice

lol

[old wyvern]

💯

lol

[prisma wave]

elara soon

[old wyvern]

Add elara repo\

[onyx loom]

no clojure

i guess thats not fully functional

[prisma wave]

AAAH i

ifrogot clojure

[onyx loom]

lol

🙂

[lunar cypress]

literally clojure oppression

[prisma wave]

sorry

typo

pretty sure the second elm was supposed to be clojure

[onyx loom]

[prisma wave]

also are dotnet apps supposed to build to .dll files?

that doesnt seem right

[onyx loom]

elm
clojure
very similar

[lunar cypress]

well if you build them as a library for a windows target yes

[prisma wave]

huh

not sure why it's building for windows

and working

since im on linux

anyway i need to dockerize this

[frigid badge]

yes

🙂

[surreal quarry]

what is going on here

[hot hull]

Anyone wanna help me a tad

I need an inverse lerp function for java, x y and a 2d float array of the values

[onyx loom]

a what what

[jovial warren]

you talking about lerp(a, b, t) = a + t * (b - a)?

the linear interpolation function

[hot hull]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Mathf.InverseLerp.html

I just need that in java

Imma just make it myself

[jovial warren]

https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/UnityCsReference/blob/master/Runtime/Export/Math/Mathf.cs#L369

[hot hull]

ah so I need clamp as well

I smell a long chain on features to implement

[old wyvern]

nope

that function doesnt reference any other functions

[hot hull]

okay just clamp then

[old wyvern]

yup

[hot hull]

neat

Don't bother, already got it

[jovial warren]

public static float inverseLerp(float a, float b, float value) {
    if (a != b) {
        return clamp((value - a) / (b - a));
    } else {
        return 0.0f;
    }
}

public static float clamp(float value) {
    if (value < 0.0f) {
        return 0.0f;
    } else if (value > 1.0f) {
        return 1.0f;
    } else {
        return value;
    }
}

[hot hull]

wHeRe ArE tHe FiNaLs

[jovial warren]

I don't generally tend to use final unless it's better to or I have to, since it just introduces more boilerplate that I can't be fuckin' assed to write

[onyx loom]

😩

[jovial warren]

[old wyvern]

inverseLerp a b value
                    | a == b = 0.0
                    | otherwise = min 1.0 (max 0.0 value)

[jovial warren]

what the fuck is that

[old wyvern]

Haskell 🙂

[jovial warren]

leave

[prisma wave]

looks good!

[onyx loom]

truly

[jovial warren]

def inverseLerp(a, b, value):
    if a != b:
        return clamp((value - a) / (b - a))
    else:
        return 0

def clamp(value):
    if value < 0:
        return 0
    elif value > 1:
        return 1
    else:
        return value

[onyx loom]

disgusting

[prisma wave]

let inverseLerp a b value = 
  if a = b then 0.0
  else max 0.0 value |> min 1.0 

[onyx loom]

thats liek 50 more chars than haskell

[prisma wave]

probably a more idiomatic way of doing that

[lunar cypress]

your functions do different things

[prisma wave]

i copied yugi's

let clamp value =
  match value with
  | 0.0 when value < 0.0
  | 1.0 when value > 1.0
  | _ -> value

that's kinda hot

[onyx loom]

😳

[prisma wave]

nvm doesnt compile 🥲

[onyx loom]

lol

[surreal quarry]

lol

[jovial warren]

compile?

I thought that was Elara

[prisma wave]

nah that's poorly written f#

[subtle lynx]

I'm really starting to hate everything

I've been struggling with knowing whether static is okay or not since I started learning Java
Some people are like nO yoU caN't UsE sTaTiC! NEVER! OBJECT ORIENTED PRINCIPLES SAY THAT STATIC VARIABLES SHOULD BURN IN HELL
And a bunch of other stuff is like "yo if static is easier and requires you to jump through less hoops and is easier to read, it's cool yo"

[half harness]

static is useful if done correctly

[prisma wave]

let pattern pred x = if pred x then Some () else None
let (|Negative|_|) = pattern ((<) 0)
let (|MoreThan1|_|) = pattern ((>) 1)

let clamp value =
    match value with
    | Negative -> 0.0
    | MoreThan1 -> 1.0
    | _ -> float value
``` i did it

[old wyvern]

Id say try to avoid using static until you fully understand what it means

[prisma wave]

understand the reasons for both arguments and you'll be able to make your own decisions

^^

[old wyvern]

Dont use it just to get access to something

Think if it actually makes sense for it not to be part of the object

[prisma wave]

it's easy to fall into bad habits with static

[old wyvern]

^

[half harness]

static is useful for constants and utils

[subtle lynx]

okay so I have a player manager class that basically just stores more information about other players. Many other classes need to access player information because it's a minigame plugin, so I used static to access it across the entire plugin but I'm using an instance variable to actually store the information

[old wyvern]

Bad

[subtle lynx]

got it

[half harness]

Bad

[subtle lynx]

I switched that already

[half harness]

ok

if (util || constant) {
    return "good";
}
return "bad";

ez

[subtle lynx]

lol

[onyx loom]

thats not really the best way of looking at static

[half harness]

lol

i knew someone was going to say that

[subtle lynx]

What's the best way to handle a class that has to be accessed by like everything?

[half harness]

DI

[subtle lynx]

pain

okay

[half harness]

its not pain

[subtle lynx]

it is when you have to refactor a bunch of code to use it.

[half harness]

o

rip

[subtle lynx]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

it is what it is.

[half harness]

dont static abuse

[hot hull]

pog

[half harness]

wot is dat

how

[hot hull]

more complex algorithm

[surreal quarry]

nice

[hot hull]

Now I need to figure out how to make an editor in that window so I don't have to keep reopening it

[steel heart]

Pro

[old wyvern]

Hot

[subtle lynx]

I'm not trying to argue with anyone, but I would like to get a straight answer that I can live by
Why is static bad for anything that could change?

[half harness]

Static variables are generally considered bad because they represent global state and are therefore much more difficult to reason about. In particular, they break the assumptions of object-oriented programming. In object-oriented programming, each object has its own state, represented by instance (non-static) variables.

🤷

[prisma wave]

yeah static doesnt fit very well in the OOP paradigm

[half harness]

Static methods mean that they can be called from anywhere. They can be called from a lot of contexts. They have a lot of clients. So, if one class needs some little special behavior to be implemented in a static method, you need to make sure that none of the other clients get broken. So, such reuse simply doesn’t work. I can compare it with my noble (and failed) attempt to compose and reuse microservices. The resulting classes are too generic and completely unmaintainable. This results in the whole system being tightly coupled.

[prisma wave]

it can make messy code that's hard to test and debug

[hot hull]

God it's annoying that main has to be static

[onyx loom]

ikr

🙄

[surreal quarry]

just make a class thats whatever your main class is, call that and then do things from there

boom no static

[onyx loom]

public STATIC void main 🤮

[prisma wave]

pub fn main

[surreal quarry]

fun main

[forest pecan]

bro

its not even inappropiate

its not phub or something

???

[onyx loom]

whats the link

[forest pecan]

ohshitgit.com/

[onyx loom]

haskell.org inappropriate link? 😳

its cus its got shit in the name prob

[forest pecan]

its actually a very useful link tho

[onyx loom]

yup

classic git mistakes

[obtuse gale]

Hahaha that's actually really cool

[onyx loom]

petition for funnycube to whitelist that link

[forest pecan]

^^

[surreal quarry]

what link

👀

[onyx loom]

ohshitgit

[subtle lynx]

I guess it just feels weird having to encapsulate everything in an object when I'm not actually doing much that an object actually benefits me in doing. I suppose that it's really helpful to be able to keep certain methods and variables separate from a giant pool of variables, but I'm not creating items or houses or something like that; I'm writing logic for a minigame that doesn't have any great use for a lot of the features that OOP has to offer, at least as far as I know.

[forest pecan]

that doesnt simply exist and cant be possible

[surreal quarry]

that site isn't evne bad?

[forest pecan]

java is an oop language

[onyx loom]

yeah but shit in the name james

😩

[forest pecan]

is phub blocked

lmao

it has to be

[subtle lynx]

yeah I know

lol

[forest pecan]

imagine if phub wasnt blocked and that was

kekw

xD

[obtuse gale]

Lel

[forest pecan]

i didnt see that but was that phub

lmao

[obtuse gale]

It was lmao

[forest pecan]

xD

[surreal quarry]

fefo banned 2021 confirmed

not clickbait

[onyx loom]

whats wrong with that link? 👀

[forest pecan]

u

[hot hull]

What's a good window ui library

[surreal quarry]

isn't that what like javafx does

or tornadofx

[hot hull]

oh yea forgot about javafx

[half harness]

wot

[hot hull]

@distant sun You played with it before right? Got any public projects using it

[surreal quarry]

yes

[half harness]

[surreal quarry]

pretty nice

never used it before but i might try sometime

[hot hull]

what the heck

[distant sun]

no, sorry

[surreal quarry]

thats tornadofx frosty

[distant sun]

looks interesting

[surreal quarry]

its like a kotlin thing for javafx

[half harness]

🇼 🇭 🇦 🇹 ❓

[hot hull]

nvm I won't

[distant sun]

what can you use for android design instead of xml?

[surreal quarry]

lol

[distant sun]

-.-

xml is gross james

[surreal quarry]

i was saying lol to frosty

[hot hull]

Gaby, most new ide's have visualisation so you don't have to touch xml at all

[distant sun]

that would be great

[ocean quartz]

You can use react for mobile

[distant sun]

not a big fan of js

[surreal quarry]

kotlin-react-native

wonder if that exists lol

[ocean quartz]

Kotlin react

[surreal quarry]

oh yea kotlin multiplatform

pretty sure thats what its for

[ocean quartz]

Kotlin multiplatform works too but kotlin react is different

[surreal quarry]

yea

aren't react and react native different though

[ocean quartz]

Yeah

[hot hull]

Ugly ass buttons

[distant sun]

what are you working on frosty?

[hot hull]

You already know

Didn't you ask that earlier already

[distant sun]

"world generation"

what's up with the ui

[hot hull]

Making a renderer for it

[static zealot]

Idk if I like this. seems like to much water to me

[hot hull]

Not enough water imo

[static zealot]

ugh idk it seems like its all just randomly sprinkled in there.

like it should be more water together same with land.

idk what the scale is there tho but it looks to me like just a bunch of lakes.

[hot hull]

Yea that's why I need a renderer, so I can properly play with the settings

[static zealot]

anyways its a cool project

[hot hull]

yessir

Can't wait to contemplate sudoku when I start with 3d shit

[static zealot]

xD

[unkempt tangle]

Possible to unmute twitch muted segments?

I highly doubt they are harddubly removed.

[dawn hinge]

Not that I'm aware of unfortunately

[forest pecan]

src code? uwu

[lunar cypress]

what?

since when can I not post links

is there a word filter or something?

[static zealot]

ugh

I think there might be some link checking

[surreal quarry]

ye some stuff seems to be filtered

[lunar cypress]

https://bit.ly/2OsBryH

[hot hull]

uwu on github

[static zealot]

on op65n ?

ah yeah

love it. all commits are named pog https://i.imgur.com/Vbyuezd.png

[hot hull]

Yes because pog

[static zealot]

I just name them hello or . or something like that

xD

because I'm bad

[hot hull]

None of the code is also documented, which needs to get documented otherwise It'll be a shit show rq

[forest pecan]

owo

[static zealot]

to much code for me. bye xD

[hot hull]

I need to license it before some dumbass copy pastes and claims as their own

[static zealot]

oh

I think you're to late

I've already done it

sorry

its also lincesed

[hot hull]

I mean I'm not worried about you, you're too lazy to finish it

[static zealot]

lmaoo

the truth hits hard

look guys I'm rich. https://i.imgur.com/zhmNqVB.png

[hot hull]

It is the truth tho is it not kek

[static zealot]

it is. xD https://i.imgur.com/vorKajS.png

but my other account tho is pog

[static zealot]

https://i.imgur.com/ODqOiWD.png

[hot hull]

Which is 6,66 usd in case you weren't aware

[static zealot]

frosty you see that It says EUR for my account as well right? xD

I have to keep up with RON, EUR and USD

lmao

[hot hull]

Wanna transfer idk like 600 to me, ktnxbye

[static zealot]

pog I did something good https://i.imgur.com/YqUkjEs.png

[static zealot]

yeah 1 sec let me F5.

oh fuck its all gone

xD

https://i.imgur.com/Nrn3xpb.gif

puff its gone

[unkempt tangle]

can I have 300? :c

I need it for study fee

[static zealot]

yeah sure. let me make it first.

lmao

its 3643 before F5

the actual balance is 43,60 xD

[unkempt tangle]

why is it not transperent ;c

[static zealot]

why not xD

[unkempt tangle]

How can I make quick money ;c

[static zealot]

jump of a building. that's how not to make money.

my discord server is so popular nowadays xD https://i.imgur.com/492GsiN.png

[unkempt tangle]

Let me join

[static zealot]

nah.

no one can join.,

the invite is actually very very public but no one will join any time soon

[static zealot]

looks like a good idea

[prisma wave]

Rust users are being prosecuted

[static zealot]

why?

[unkempt tangle]

cuz they are rusty?

[static zealot]

Rust is life. Rust is love.

Never live without Rust.

[unkempt tangle]

Senpai

wanna play now?

[heady birch]

@lunar cypress Where do you find these? Great to uncover and hear how badly society treats Rust developers.

[lunar cypress]

this one I got from r/rustjerk

[heady birch]

Is that a reddit page

[lunar cypress]

yes

can also recommend r/programmingcirclejerk

[prisma wave]

^

Very good

[heady birch]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazelle

[prisma wave]

Python 3 is able to write excel files and tell Excel to do the calculations. It can also read those files.

Thanks to Microsoft's latest update to Excel, Python 3 on Windows is finally Turing complete!

Finally!!

[unkempt tangle]

Python can do everything

You simply need the right library

[heady birch]

Don't think python has a "safe" library 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[unkempt tangle]

Yeah. I hate it.

[lunar cypress]

wrong. Python3 is literally not turing complete

[unkempt tangle]

Either 2.7 or 3.X

[lunar cypress]

up until the excel update that is

[prisma wave]

microsoft are really revolutionising programming 😌

[static zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-la-noire-cole-phelps-gif-13372170

[lunar cypress]

PepeLaugh oh no no

[static zealot]

I mean that survey is probably just dumb.

like most surveys nowadays

[lunar cypress]

back in the day the surveys were much better

[prisma wave]

83% of rust developers approve of me

[static zealot]

causation vs correlation smh

[prisma wave]

i think most software people are pretty liberal

[heady birch]

38% of participants had previously been charged with aggravated assault, of which 27% was related to promoting the language

[prisma wave]

maybe not some of the older ones

[lunar cypress]

oh hell no

[prisma wave]

lmfao

[lunar cypress]

you know the infamous is-even and is-odd libraries?

Recently I was surprised to find that the guy who wrote those is like the archetype chud

Literally has a trump-2020 github organisation lmfao

[prisma wave]

lmao

[lunar cypress]

but for more famous examples, Robert C Martin is also a republican

ah yeah that's the one lol

[prisma wave]

oh surprising

well

most programmers on twitter are pretty liberal***

but that's just twitter

[lunar cypress]

eh, really depends on whom you follow

on the contrary, actually

[prisma wave]

c users are more conservative

rust and go users are quirky and modern

progressive

[lunar cypress]

I feel like Rust's community is much more open (some people not when it comes to the programming language) but generally yeah

probably because of the policies and infrastructure of the language

[prisma wave]

that is misleading and biased

[lunar cypress]

malloc and free?

[heady birch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSmkqocn0oQ&feature=emb_logo

[prisma wave]

😐

https://wiki.bristermitten.me/guides/deluxemenus-setup-guide

😄

[half harness]

🤣

[prisma wave]

which one did you get

[lunar cypress]

I think you accidentally set up a permanent redirect

or at least sending the response code for one

[prisma wave]

ah

yes i think you're right

[lunar cypress]

yeah you're sending 301

[half harness]

whats that?

is it bad?

[lunar cypress]

should be 307

[half harness]

🤔

[lunar cypress]

because 301 tells the browser that it is permanent

and so it will land in the browser cache

[half harness]

oh

[lunar cypress]

and always redirect to the same page

[prisma wave]

ah right

[half harness]

still only clojure for me

in incognito i get different ones tho

[prisma wave]

yeah

i assume the browser is still caching

i think im sending different codes

[half harness]

uh

how do I delete cache?

[prisma wave]

would the Cache-Control header work?

uh

idk

somewhere in developer tools i think

[half harness]

oh ye

"Disable cache"

i think

well now it works, but I don't want to disable every time 😛

[prisma wave]

yeah ima try and disable it

[half harness]

okay

it works without disabling

[lunar cypress]

302 has been superseded by 307

not up to standard 😡

[prisma wave]

The located assembly's manifest definition does not match the assembly reference. (0x80131040)

aah it was a version incompatibility

not the most descriptive error in the world

but i guess it was a start

[unkempt tangle]

Senpai

play?

[static zealot]

play with me senpai?

[hot hull]

UwU

[unkempt tangle]

Matty

wanna play?

[ocean quartz]

Nope

[unkempt tangle]

I wanna try Witchcraft

Stop playing LoL for a sec

[prisma wave]

that's hot

[hot hull]

No u

[prisma wave]

🥰

[unkempt tangle]

dafuq is dis

[prisma wave]

a masterpiece

[forest pecan]

🥰

oh

nvm

it was blank for my screen for some reason

[somber tulip]

it warms my heart when code that I've not touched in 3+ months stops working... it really does

[ocean quartz]

It's scary

[somber tulip]

😦 MySQL has just stopped allowing my json to be inputted because it's decided today that it won't accept extra ' i think

But, it's fixed itself on one implementation without me touching anything and broken on another!!!?

love it

[unkempt tangle]

Anyone got experience with Unity?

[obtuse pulsar]

My plugin doesn't build with the plugin.yml...

plugins {
    id 'java'
}

group 'bz.ene'
version '1.0-SNAPSHOT'

repositories {
    mavenCentral()
    maven { url = 'https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots' }
    maven { url = 'https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/' }
    maven { url = 'https://repo.codemc.org/repository/maven-public/' }
}

dependencies {
    compileOnly 'org.spigotmc:spigot-api:1.16.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT'
    compileOnly 'de.tr7zw:item-nbt-api-plugin:2.7.1'
}

processResources {
    from(sourceSets.main.resources.srcDirs) {
        expand 'pluginVersion': version
    }
}

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/497874004401586176/809171939889119293/Screenshot_9.png

File structure ^

Why doesn't the plugin.yml get included with the build?

[steel heart]

how do you build?

where is plugin.yml?

[obtuse pulsar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/497874004401586176/809171939889119293/Screenshot_9.png

[steel heart]

.

[obtuse pulsar]

I build as an artifact with intellij

[steel heart]

thats the issue

[obtuse pulsar]

i need build with gradle

lulz

how

how do i build with gradle

[steel heart]

click where the blue arrow is pointing

then build

your out will be in the directory build/libs

[obtuse pulsar]

thx

Unknown dependency NTBAPI.

repositories {
    mavenCentral()
    maven { url = 'https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots' }
    maven { url = 'https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/' }
    maven { url = 'https://repo.codemc.org/repository/maven-public/' }
}

dependencies {
    compileOnly 'org.spigotmc:spigot-api:1.16.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT'
    compileOnly 'de.tr7zw:item-nbt-api-plugin:2.7.1'
}

[steel heart]

declared the repo?

[obtuse pulsar]

I added them in the gradle file..

yeah ^

shouldnt build automatically install it

[half harness]

press ctrl + shift + o just in case

[obtuse pulsar]

where

[half harness]

nvm

[steel heart]

enebz does it say anything more?

[obtuse pulsar]

[22:24:42 ERROR]: Could not load 'plugins\PluginTest-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar' in folder 'plugins'
org.bukkit.plugin.UnknownDependencyException: Unknown dependency NTBAPI. Please download and install NTBAPI to run this plugin.
        at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.loadPlugins(SimplePluginManager.java:272) ~[patched_1.16.5.jar:git-Paper-466]
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_16_R3.CraftServer.loadPlugins(CraftServer.java:388) ~[patched_1.16.5.jar:git-Paper-466]
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_16_R3.CraftServer.reload(CraftServer.java:942) ~[patched_1.16.5.jar:git-Paper-466]
        at org.bukkit.Bukkit.reload(Bukkit.java:708) ~[patched_1.16.5.jar:git-Paper-466]
        at org.bukkit.command.defaults.ReloadCommand.execute(ReloadCommand.java:54) ~[patched_1.16.5.jar:git-Paper-466]
        at org.bukkit.command.SimpleCommandMap.dispatch(SimpleCommandMap.java:159) ~[patched_1.16.5.jar:git-Paper-466]
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_16_R3.CraftServer.dispatchCommand(CraftServer.java:806) ~[patched_1.16.5.jar:git-Paper-466]
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_16_R3.CraftServer.dispatchServerCommand(CraftServer.java:768) ~[patched_1.16.5.jar:git-Paper-466]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R3.DedicatedServer.handleCommandQueue(DedicatedServer.java:411) ~[patched_1.16.5.jar:git-Paper-466]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R3.DedicatedServer.b(DedicatedServer.java:378) ~[patched_1.16.5.jar:git-Paper-466]        at net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R3.MinecraftServer.a(MinecraftServer.java:1209) ~[patched_1.16.5.jar:git-Paper-466]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R3.MinecraftServer.w(MinecraftServer.java:997) ~[patched_1.16.5.jar:git-Paper-466]        at net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R3.MinecraftServer.lambda$a$0(MinecraftServer.java:174) ~[patched_1.16.5.jar:git-Paper-466]
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) [?:1.8.0_251]

[unkempt tangle]

LOL

blind?

[obtuse pulsar]

yes

[static zealot]

Please download and install NTBAPI to run this plugin.

[obtuse pulsar]

as i said i added it to gradle

[static zealot]

it needs the plugin

[obtuse pulsar]

it should do it

yeah .. no shit

[static zealot]

because you didn't shade it in

[unkempt tangle]

no

You dont shade it

[obtuse gale]

you can shade it

but you can also install the plugin

[unkempt tangle]

Thats why you need it in your server too.

[static zealot]

either shade it or download the actual plugin

and install it in the plugins folder with your plugin

[obtuse gale]

or both

[static zealot]

😦

[unkempt tangle]

Shading == it compiles the required classses and put them into your jar file

I dont wanna be one of those jerks just throwing words out

[steel heart]

should prolly relocate then

[unkempt tangle]

no one else then them understands it.

[obtuse pulsar]

shouldnt it shade when i do this:

repositories {
    mavenCentral()
    maven { url = 'https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots' }
    maven { url = 'https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/' }
    maven { url = 'https://repo.codemc.org/repository/maven-public/' }
}

dependencies {
    compileOnly 'org.spigotmc:spigot-api:1.16.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT'
    compileOnly 'de.tr7zw:item-nbt-api-plugin:2.7.1'
}

[steel heart]

nope