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#dev-general
unkempt tangle
surreal quarry
idk about unprofessional but a lot of servers don't like to show them lol
surreal quarry
if its a shitty anticheat yea
anticheats shouldn't have ways for regular users to bypass
half harness
since some clients have settings for different anticheats like Spartan, NCP, AAC, Matrix, etc
obtuse gale
How many have settings for Watchdog 🌚
half harness
sOmEtHiNg cAlLed
- imperfect
- reporting
- staff
- you'll eventually get banned 🙂
obtuse gale
By watchdog* so you can ditch staff lol
surreal quarry
does fortune apply to blocks?
half harness
but idk why it's not dropping an ingot
surreal quarry
why would it drop an ingot
half harness
oh
old wyvern
smelt it lol
surreal quarry
you gotta smelt iron
surreal quarry
you could write a plugin so you dont have to though 
surreal quarry
i would assume just things that drop the minerals or whatever. like diamonds, coal, etc
old wyvern
Diamonds, Lapis, Coal, Redstone
surreal quarry
write a plugin to change it
old wyvern
Probably even gravel if on shovel I guess
surreal quarry
might do wood as well if on an axe
old wyvern
Really?
half harness
🤨
half harness
i just mined a diamond ore with a diamond shovel to see if it would drop multiple diamonds
it dropped none 🤣
i forgot
that u need iron pick
half harness
lol
diamond pick with fortune + gravel = a lot of flint
now
diamond pick with fortune + wood = ?
a lot of wood
obtuse gale
Fortune also works on crops
obtuse gale
diamond pick with fortune + wood = ?
lol no
distant sun
and leaves iirc
obtuse gale
And the nether gold ores since they drop nuggets
obtuse gale
Today I found out about local classes
They seem useful but I don't see myself actually using them, I'd use nested classes or just full blown classes instead lol
surreal quarry
what if you wanna use the local class in some other situation too
then you gotta refactor
obtuse gale
like I get the point, it's like an anonymous class but a teeny tiny bit more "extended" and you can use it as many times as you want
but I think I would use a nested class for that
idk
old wyvern
But a nested class would hold a reference to the parent class's instance tho
old wyvern
true
jovial warren
when you spend ages scratching your head wondering why this happens https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807398319293726730/807758301365403688/unknown.png
and then you look at this:
regal gale
:))
jovial warren
just to confirm my sanity hasn't just disappeared out the window, that will only be instantiated once won't it, since it's kinda static
somber tulip
If I wanted to, I could run scala code on a minecraft server right? I mean it all compiles to the same JVM. I don’t mean using any of the bukkit code, just for stuff like analysing a file quickly or running some logic? (Just asking because I am also learning scala and may be a good way to improve) I don’t see much reason why it wouldn’t but also I see a lot of resources implementing their own scala builder for plugins
jovial warren
I'm using Kotlin and that's a JVM language
and that runs perfectly fine
so if Scala is interoperable with Java (which I believe it is), then no reason why it won't work
Kotlin better though xD
old wyvern
Yea bm already did that once
ocean quartz
Use Kotlin 👀
somber tulip
Alright, I’ll try see if I can get it running tomorrow but just wanted to have a quick check. And it probably is but Uni teaches us scalaaa 😉
jovial warren
using constant time values btw is a bad idea isn't it
what I did will only instantiate it once throughout it's entire runtime I think
old wyvern
somber tulip
Oh sweet
old wyvern
using constant time values btw is a bad idea isn't it
Use a property bard
smoky summit
If any developers are available I'd appreciate if they could give me their input on if certain plugins I'm paying to have complete are overpriced or suited.
jovial warren
go for it
old wyvern
property?
Yea
rn you have
val TIME_NOW = LocalDateTime.now()
switch that to
val TIME_NOW
get() = LocalDateTime.now()
ocean quartz
Lmao
old wyvern
lol
jovial warren
I've spent 5 fucking days on this donkey code whack plugin that somehow works and it's still got these sorts of stupid bugs in it
smoky summit
go for it
$150 USD for a queue system, pretty standard, has most features that all queue plugins have. Connects to Luckperms databases to sort rank priorities on a per-realm basis.
old wyvern
define standard
smoky summit
define standard
Allows you to queue for realms with ranked users being given priority over unranked. The higher the rank the greater priority given. Able to /queue pause or increase/decrease the rate of which players join with /queue speed <queue> <ppm>
oak coyote
If it’s made fully custom then the price is your decision
jovial warren
someone please flame me for this
oak coyote
It’s typically more than public
compact perchBOT
jovial warren
wow
jovial warren
bytebin good paste.helpch.at bad
oak coyote
private val gui = Gui(plugin.gui.rows, plugin.gui.title.colourise())
I like the amount of public variables this contains
It’s sexy
ocean quartz
bytebin good paste.helpch.at bad
Light theme lol
ocean quartz
Yes, bad
smoky summit
Is 7-8 hours a reasonable timeframe to have it be complete?
oak coyote
No?
jovial warren
that's ridiculous
jovial warren
few days?
oak coyote
And that is just pure work time
ocean quartz
Send the source code of deluxe queue and done
smoky summit
Not 7-8 hours in one day straight, 7-8 hours of work total across several days
oak coyote
But we don’t work 24/7
old wyvern
Send the source code of deluxe queue and done
jovial warren
lol
deluxequeues is open-source
I'm gonna be working on my own free and open-source standalone queue server using RabbitMQ soon
smoky summit
I'm surprised prices are so inflated considering development charges at a reasonable price (for known/advanced developers)
$20/h
jovial warren
developers charge stupid prices sometimes
but they know they can, since the people they're charging are too incompetent to know how easy it is to do what they're doing half of the time
smoky summit
Right
ocean quartz
Prices are definitely not inflated, if you really think about it prices are very cheap
People will charge something like $50 for like 15+ hours of work while a normal developer would make that in 1 hour
half harness
meanwhile I do 50+ hours of work for $10 or less 😢
ocean quartz
Exactly, spigot devs are very underpaid
jovial warren
well, I can't really say shit now actually, since the guy I work for sponsored me on Patreon at the £10/month tier (highest tier) as a thank you
ocean quartz
Yup
jovial warren
I just don't program for the money
oak coyote
Do you I do?
jovial warren
money's not something that interests me all that much, it's just kinda there, and it pays for things, nothing more
half harness
the money makes me procastinate :p
jovial warren
same
I get motivated because I love programming, not because I'm getting paid for it
half harness
*meanwhile I do 50+ hours of work for $10 or less* 😢
not like I even ask for too much imo ._.
smoky summit
Prices are definitely not inflated, if you really think about it prices are very...
Right, and that all makes sense. However $150-$170 for a queue system no matter how advanced just seems off to me. Of course if several other developers gave me the same pricing I'd assume it was suited.
half harness
ill do the same thing for $15
jovial warren
lol
oak coyote
If it’s good then it’s your choice
half harness
maybe $10
oak coyote
Ignore dkim he undercharges due to quality 😱
smoky summit
Interesting lol
oak coyote
😂
half harness
theres two types of people
- People that do it all for the cash
- People that do it because they enjoy coding
- People that dont know
oak coyote
- Those who do it for fun, but still recognise their time is valuable
half harness
im so bad at time management
sometimes i work on the same plugin for 6+ hours a day for 2 weeks straight
to get $10 🙂
ocean quartz
Right, and that all makes sense. However $150-$170 for a queue system no matter ...
Most developers will do anything for cheap, I am not saying the person is over charging or undercharging, what I am saying is that most people under charge
Most "clients" won't pay enough because they think "it's just for a game"
You can find people that do web design for like $50 on fiverr but if you contact a company it'll be very expensive, it's something similar to that
Imo $150 is pretty reasonable for a plugin like that, you may think it's simple, but it goes much deeper than that
At the end of the day it's your choice to accept or not
half harness
wait
oak coyote
I’d probably charge about that much for a plugin that is custom and complex like that
regal gale
I always find the price based on value and complexity of the plugin as developer
half harness
is @smoky summit the dev or client?
ocean quartz
Like, let's think about it, I could do if for you for $50 or i could sell it on spigot for $20, if 3 people buy it I already made more than I would doing a commission
regal gale
Get gansta until someone willing to request to make whole skyblock for 1000$ 
half harness
lol
ocean quartz
Imo prices should be based on time, if it's complex it'll take more time, if it's not it won't
regal gale
That happened many times in #805698761442590730 already lol
smoky summit
Most developers will do anything for cheap, I am not saying the person is over c...
I'll definetly accept if its reasonable, I personally can't judge it myself since I'm not a developer. I'm also aware that quality developers/development have higher price tags but it translates into having a better codebase with much better performance generally.
smoky summit
But one of the things planned to be made is a custom skyblock core, and based on how prices are now that would probably cost at least 500-1000 which really seems like its being pushed (at least to me).
regal gale
Also, there're instances where people ultimately raise the price up because of the length taken
oak coyote
If you trust the developer and feel it’s worth it then it’s a good decision
regal gale
I'd rather not do it and claim it my own lol
half harness
||offtopic so ill put in this spoiler but i just godbridged 22 blocks pog||
regal gale
It's close to dev-relating anyway, so it's good
half harness
oh i have question
regal gale
Also
but I just godbridged 22 blocks pog
Who asked :thonking:
oak coyote
Packets based yep
ocean quartz
Nay
half harness
half harness
Packets based yep
what packet?
regal gale
"Nay"?
half harness
nay = no
oak coyote
Neigh
regal gale
Nein
Also, packet doesn't even sent when interacting on air without anything in hand (right click)
ocean quartz
And it's constantly sending packets so figuring if it's holding or not is almost impossible, hence why i said nay
half harness
hm
so theres no way to detect when a player stops holding right click?
bc i can use playerinteractevent for pressing it
but idk about un-pressing it
obtuse gale
Also, packet doesn't even sent when interacting on air without anything in hand ...
Yes it does
obtuse gale
There's an Action for PlayerInteractEvent for RIGHT_CLICK_AIR
It's cancelled by default
half harness
fefo
do you know how to detect when a player isn't holding down right click anymore
or
detect when a player is holding down right click
obtuse gale
No clue lol
half harness
😭
old wyvern
There's an Action for PlayerInteractEvent for RIGHT_CLICK_AIR
But not when bare handed I think
obtuse gale
But not when bare handed I think
Yes it does
You can use that to make clickable holograms
But again the event is cancelled by default because the vanilla action is to do nothing
hasty plank
Hey, i purchased VotePlugin, should it be ran alongside another plugin
It's advertised as an all-in-one, but doesnt even seem to have the basic /vote
obtuse gale
So on my website admin page I want to be able to edit each row in the database, but i want a different page from each table
So each page is basically the same it just has different data
how would one do that (react)
old wyvern
Yes it does
Actually, it doesnt. Right click air with no item in hand doesnt send a packet from the client at all
obtuse gale
Pulse, these "videos" don't work cross-platform lmao
obtuse gale
lmao
regal gale
(wrong channel)
obtuse gale
@obtuse gale 🤷 https://imgur.com/a/HeEoqTc (sorry for the double ping uwuwu)
obtuse gale
who was the one who had issues sending sounds with packets?
@hallow crane 'twas you!!!
This is explained in the protocol specification, you need to multiply the sound location by 8, the 24 most significant bits of the integer are the integer part of the location and the 3 least significant bits are the decimal places
tl;dr all you have to do is multiply the coords of where you want the location by 8 and then cast to int, tested about an hour ago, it works just fine like that
That also means that if you don't multiply by 8 the sound location will be "shifted" towards 0;0;0 so it may sound right at 0;0;0 ±1 block
question
answer
hope it helped 10/10
I want my website to have multiple pages for some of my database tables, those pages have like a table of all the rows, and a area to edit the data in it,
So both pages will be the same in functionality, just different tables
Whats the best way to go about this (React)
hot hull
Is hangar planning on having free only os plugins, or can they be closed source? Because it'd be fucking awesome if only os
old wyvern
hangar?
hot hull
Yugi 🤦
hot hull
foss?
quiet depot
free and open source software
hot hull
Thank god
hot hull
Not in it, but yea heard of it
quiet depot
just to connect some dots that stands for minecraft open source software
iirc
they've got essentials and factions and shit
hot hull
Mhm
hot hull
Paper's new plugin platform
old wyvern
Wait what
hot hull
Probably the most accurate description
Bruh I swear to god you've asked this beforr
Before*
old wyvern
So like the spiogt marketplace thing?
hot hull
They'll only be allowing free open sourced plugins on there so not exactly a marketplace
old wyvern
Ahh
empty flint
Have you guys worked with Bungeecord plugins before? Can I build them for Bungee and use them on normal spigot/paper servers or does bungee need a different API that isn't compatible?
hot hull
bungee is a different api
empty flint
So I need to make 2 different plugins if I want to support both?
not sure how that works
steel heart
use bungee.yml as the bungee manifest and then plugin.yml as the spigot manifest. Then have different main classes and yeah pretty much that.
Don’t interfere Bukkit api with bungee api
empty flint
Oh so I can package them in the same jar and bungee will ignore the plugin.yml and bukkit will ignore the bungee.yml?
steel heart
Yeah, bungee reads bungee.yml if one exist, it doesn’t it will try reading plugin.yml
Yes
Die thrice?
empty flint
since I don't have any bungee experience, I'm really not sure if that's sarcasm or not xD
empty flint
Yeah, bungee reads bungee.yml if one exist, it doesn’t it will try reading plugi...
And how are plugins distributed on the bungee network? Do I have the plugin on the bungee hub or on each separate server (or both?)?
steel heart
Well that depends on the usage.
empty flint
oof thank god
steel heart
You’d firmly use bungee plugin to take advantage of retrieving additional information and not to mention utilizing plugin message channels.
Possible some event handling
And global commands
empty flint
and the rest should be handled by the bukkit plugin?
empty flint
got it, so the bungee plugin is only active on the hub I assume and it is sort of like the communication backend for the spigot plugins that are running on the separate servers?
steel heart
That could be one way.
You can think of your bungee plugin as being some sort of mini proxy over the spigot plugins
steel heart
You would use plugin message channels for that
empty flint
so what's a clear example of the purpose of a bungee plugin that can only be done using the bungee plugin?
BungeeCord Plugin Messaging Channel?
empty flint
It doesn't look like you need a bungee plugin for that purpose though
at least not if this is still up to date
steel heart
the "idea" would be that the bungeecord intercept messages from spigot plugins and can the forward it so if one of your spigot plugins would want to talk to another, then it has to go through the bungee
static zealot
yeah but to send messages from one bukkit to another you need to send it thru bungee
you can't just send it bukkit to bukkit
steel heart
or use redis which is objectively superior
Also you can listen for stuff like when a player switches from Server to Server
and not just Connect/Disconnect I believe
yeah
static zealot
yeah that's another thing
empty flint
you can't just send it bukkit to bukkit
right but do you need a bungee plugin for that or does the bungee hub handle that kind of messaging already?
static zealot
also the MOTD
steel heart
Worst case relfect the command map
empty flint
sorry I am not familiar with the terminology. I thought the bungee network has a central hub that is not actually a spigot server
at least that's how it was explained to me
static zealot
bungee is what connects your backend servers together
empty flint
or use redis which is objectively superior
You can use redis across a bungeecord network? Like have two spigot servers use the same redis?
steel heart
yes
w/o using bungee
though it requires an external source
if you do end up using redis, I can suggest lettuce
redis 4 java lib
empty flint
so redis would be an alternative to bungee?
steel heart
yeah
frigid badge
nah
empty flint
lol
frigid badge
incorrect
steel heart
yes it has good pub subs
well if you want info from bungee no I guess
like players online or smtng
empty flint
right, right
copper mason
'gday
I'm getting stuck with attempting to override a vanilla command. Here's a snippet of trying to get any command:
@Override
public boolean onCommand(CommandSender sender, Command command, String label, String[] args)
{
System.out.println("command:" + label);
return super.onCommand(sender, command, label, args);
}
The printline is only called when I run a command native to the plugin I'm working on (e.g. has the correct prefix), and not when running any other command.
Reason I'm trying this is to overwrite a vanilla command with one of my own. What am I doing wrong?
steel heart
Yes, but I prefer redis pubsubs over simple plugin message channels
frigid badge
sure but it isn’t a bungee replacement
steel heart
yeah sure
thats very basic innit?
@empty flint may I ask what you're going to use a bungee plugin for
yes
what's the exact issue here?
copper mason
They and I want to overwrite a vanilla command
and are failing to do so on our own
so we come here to get help
steel heart
lol okay
copper mason
🙂
steel heart
Do you know anything about reflection?
It might be less or more mandatory to have slight knowledge about it since I think you may have to use it in order to access CommandMap
(Spigot atleast)
Paper does expose it
steel heart
Well yeah the CommandMap is essentially a glorified Map<String,Command>
obtuse gale
I want my website to have multiple pages for some of my database tables, those pages have like a table of all the rows, and a area to edit the data in it,
So both pages will be the same in functionality, just different tables
Whats the best way to go about this (React)
empty flint
<@!119115725469122573> may I ask what you're going to use a bungee plugin for
Basically I would like to make my current spigot plugin work across a whole network, sharing data and communicating between the servers. Ideally host a webserver as well somewhere for a gui (instead of ingame inventory guis), dunno if that's a thing on some central hub or not.
frigid badge
you don’t need to remove it from commandmap
heady birch
since you are using react you must build a whole api and then a seperate web app to connect to the api
copper mason
Paper does expose it
Oh that'd be easier, but we want to support both spigot and paper if possible
frigid badge
any bukkit plugin’s commands has a higher priority than vanilla commands
obtuse gale
since you are using react you must build a whole api and then a seperate web app...
Ive already made the rest api
distant sun
Obvious
static zealot
because you're you..
copper mason
yes
@Override
public boolean onCommand(CommandSender sender, Command command, String label, String[] args)
{
System.out.println("command:" + label);
return super.onCommand(sender, command, label, args);
}
The printline is only called when I run a command native to the plugin I'm working on (e.g. has the correct prefix), and not when running any other command.
Reason I'm trying this is to overwrite a vanilla command with one of my own. What am I doing wrong?
steel heart
Basically I would like to make my current spigot plugin work across a whole netw...
If your only usage is communication, I think redis could replace that.
distant sun
perhaps return true?
steel heart
But
copper mason
perhaps return true?
The super returns true
distant sun
mhm
empty flint
If your only usage is communication, I think redis could replace that.
Well information sharing as well, which means I wouldn't have to code my own player list and server list and such. Would redis have any advantage to bungeecord? Also, didn't you say for redis to work across servers you need something inbetween?
prisma wave
it basically means you can get all classes e.g. commands?
Nah java reflection doesn't do that, it finds stuff from a specific class. Libraries like Classgraph or org.reflections do what you described
steel heart
You need to set it up, that's at most trivial though. But if you want like a common scoreboard, tablist (iirc), global commands, better player connection api etc
then bungee might be a good choice
empty flint
yeah, I think I will go with bungee then
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copper mason
Do I have to somehow register my command...? I'm not sure how to overwrite the command
steel heart
Yeah problem with plugin message channels is that they require a player connection
empty flint
Yeah problem with plugin message channels is that they require a player connecti...
wdy mean?
steel heart
they use player connections to send data
empty flint
So you can't message server-to-server?
steel heart
Yeah
empty flint
is there a way to circumvent that?
steel heart
that's when redis would be the best replacement
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steel heart
yep
static zealot
proxy.getServers
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static zealot
net.md_5.bungee.api.ProxyServer#getServers
distant sun
Is it only me or redis looks easy to use and cool?
static zealot
idk never used redis. xd
empty flint
Sooo for the information exchange on the proxy, one would use bungee but if no player is online, I'd have to resort to some other form of communication?
Doesn't that also mean the communication on bungee depends on the connection the player has to the server, meaning if they play with 300 ping then all the messages go through that delay as well?
steel heart
I'm not sure but it wouldn't surprise me if that's the case
empty flint
well that sounds dumb as shit
redis it is then?
idk
why would they code it like that tho
copper mason
Thanks for nothing I guess
steel heart
yeah I meant the classes in the package ofc lol
https://redis.io/
https://github.com/lettuce-io/lettuce-core
@empty flint might be interested 🙂
empty flint
<https://redis.io/>
<https://github.com/lettuce-io/lettuce-core>
<@!1191157254...
is this lettuce thing something you run on every spigot server then or does the server owner have to install something on a separate server?
copper mason
How do I overwrite a vanilla command,
I cannot capture vanilla commands in my
public boolean onCommand(CommandSender sender, Command command, String label, String[] args)
I can only get the commands with my prefix.
How do I know when a certain vanilla command was ran because that function is not called when any command other than one with my prefix is ran
distant sun
What is lettuce?
distant sun
Aight
steel heart
How do I overwrite a vanilla command,
I cannot capture vanilla commands in my
``...
If you want to capture a command use the PreProcessCommandEvent
I think?
empty flint
@steel heart I will definitely take a look, ty. I think I might actually combine bungee and redis. Use the bungee proxy server as a central server and run the backend logic from there, and then use redis for communication between the more front-endy spigot servers
distant sun
For custom objects you can use gson, right?
steel heart
<@!299969655915806741> I will definitely take a look, ty. I think I might actual...
that'd be smart
copper mason
If you want to capture a command use the PreProcessCommandEvent
I think?
thank you
steel heart
copper mason
public boolean PlayerCommandPreprocessEvent(Player player, String message){
System.out.println("Command: " + message);
return true;
}
Prints nothing. Ever.
static zealot
ugh
copper mason
Sorry if I'm r-word
static zealot
stuck harbor
depends how u use it
remote goblet
It’s a lot of work to make it static
prisma wave
yes?
remote goblet
Or make it non static
Well, it does there
Well for it to access playerInv, playerInv has to be static aswell
stuck harbor
d;paper Inventory#getTitle()
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remote goblet
lmao
stuck harbor
🤷 just look thru all of ur IDEs recommendations
remote goblet
getType will return InventoryType Enum
stuck harbor
gotta love an enum
efe
google 'get title of inventory spigot'
oof
or efe
just use
mf gui
eee
?mf
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FAQ Answer:
stuck harbor
lol
no
weird
so many ways that can fail mmm
doing like 50 operations in one line
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copper mason
https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/using-the-event-api/
[12:33:04 ERROR]: [Iris] Iris v1.3.2 attempted to register an invalid EventHandler method signature "public void com.volmit.iris.manager.command.CommandLocate.PlayerCommandPreprocessEvent(org.bukkit.entity.Player,java.lang.String)" in class com.volmit.iris.manager.command.CommandLocate
You can't pass in your own arguments Coco
stuck harbor
u gotta put ur branding in there
stuck harbor
nought wrong with that
hot hull
Which kinda makes no sense but oh well
copper mason
The event method can only contain the event param
https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/player/PlayerCommandPreprocessEvent.html shows PlayerCommandPreprocessEvent(Player player, String message)
my code:
@EventHandler
public void PlayerCommandPreprocessEvent(Player player, String message){
Bukkit.broadcastMessage("command " + message);
}
@EventHandler
public void onPlayerCommandPreprocess(final PlayerCommandPreprocessEvent event) {
// code
}
we need to use discord as an ide
copper mason
```java
@EventHandler
public void onPlayerCommandPreprocess(final PlayerCommandP...
ah
remote goblet
I hate that video
hot hull
Yes efe, good one
copper mason
thanks
remote goblet
Didn’t wanna see someone being discriminated against and killed 
hot hull
Those are all awesome
remote goblet
He’s a dad now 
static zealot
dk man I feel like you guys are simping to much for that NF guy
remote goblet
Or going to be
hot hull
"that NF guy"
static zealot
no
I'm an interstellar worm
but I am not allowed to tell you that so now I need to kill you all
hot hull
Please do nuke this planet
dawn hinge
Do it
static zealot
oh don't worry its allready in the works. not to much until I'll feed on all your souls
copper mason
@hot hull Thanks, that worked.
I'm still getting the default output for the command as well though, any way to prevent the command from going though, e.g. if someone types /ban it doesn't actually run the default command code?
remote goblet
I feel like you’re all just really late to listening to certain music
dawn hinge
Hurry up then smh
hot hull
Coco, Show me what you have right now
static zealot
barrier
hot hull
Use an RP and make a ban hammer dumbass
copper mason
public void onPlayerCommandPreprocess(final PlayerCommandPreprocessEvent event) {
Bukkit.broadcastMessage("Pog");
}```I mean, fair point frosty
static zealot
yo I don't hate NF. I actually listen to it but people in here actually simp for him. there are some songs I can't even listen to from him but they're like. listen its so good i
hot hull
``` @EventHandler
public void onPlayerCommandPreprocess(final PlayerCommandP...
Check the message given by the event, and cancel if it contains /ban
copper mason
Can you elaborate on cancel?
hot hull
event#setCancelled
static zealot
well I can't disagree with you here.
remote goblet
Yeah you’re all very late to certain artists 
copper mason
event#setCancelled
ty
static zealot
Yeah you’re all very late to certain artists <:mochasit:727929503724339341>
what does that even mean and what artists?
hot hull
I've been listening to nf for like 5+ years now, which is pog
remote goblet
Then you’re fine but efe
Yes sir
Watch this will be a song I listened to Atleast 10 years ago
Okay guaranteed
Yes
What are you doing, choking them to silence???
static zealot
xd
static zealot
Ori idk if I'm late to NF but that's not the thing. for me the vibe matters just as much as the lyrics and when you have just dark vibes its not for me. and that's why I don't like some of NF's music.
remote goblet
obtuse gale
I want my website to have multiple pages for some of my database tables, those pages have like a table of all the rows, and a area to edit the data in it,
So both pages will be the same in functionality, just different tables
Whats the best way to go about this (React)
static zealot
poor aj. keeps copy pasting the message xD no help for him today
remote goblet
shush
obtuse gale
yep lol
hot hull
efe, paper
static zealot
idk any backend so I can't help you
hot hull
But again, RP.
remote goblet
hot hull
Gonna start using them when 1.17 drops, the amount of cool shit
static zealot
I've worked like 2 months with Resource packs. I gave up after I kinda got scammed
why??
why does he use wish.com?
remote goblet
Lazy fuck
static zealot
well then don't make your own admin system
lmao
just use litebans
way cheaper, faster and better
like wayy wayy better
remote goblet
Why make your own plugin if you don’t wanna do the work
remote goblet
Make a skyblock plugin
I keep telling people this
Most of you are incapable of making a decent one
But I encourage you to try
It’ll keep you busy
static zealot
oh man I have to go work on this core again. fuck
tranquil crane
Most of you are incapable of making a decent one
me_irl
tranquil crane
no me
copper mason
@hot hull Thank you so much for your help, I managed to make it work.
Much obliged!
static zealot
prisma wave
remote goblet
I will never understand, why in the loving fuck my plugin decides to take up to 12 minutes to compile a jar
static zealot
do you use gradle?
remote goblet
yes
hot hull
Takes some time to start it if you're doing other stuff at the same time
oak coyote
Gradle does appear to have slower compile times than maven
prisma wave
it can depend
gradle is usually much faster but it occasionally seems to have spikes where it takes a long time
regal gale
I think it only happened at first boot for me
lunar cypress
gradle does not have slower compile times, it only takes some additional time initially to start its daemons and some to parse and run the build file
however its task system is a lot more sophisticated and efficient than maven's goals
linear lifecycle? couldn't be gradle 
oak coyote
Yeah I don’t really use gradle enough so I was likely just seeing the first time longer compiles
frigid badge
I want my website to have multiple pages for some of my database tables, those p...
make a component where you can provide fields and data as properties
then just have a view per page where you use that component
remote goblet
no its not because I have something else going on
its that plugin in specific that takes 3-12 minutes
every other plugin takes 300-500ms
prisma wave
damn free money in #805698761442590730
jovial warren
👀
static zealot
is it tho?
jovial warren
imagine undercutting your competitors by saying you'll do it for free though
obtuse gale
Hi
jovial warren
these are the sorts of requests I like to snatch up and avoid people overpaying for lol
static zealot
dw it wasn't that much free money
hot hull
Ah yes because why pay for honest work when a kid with too much time can do it for free!
static zealot
and we wonder why people underpay minecraft devs lmao
hot hull
Because of people like Bardy
static zealot
The request wasn't just a plugin to check PAPI placeholders. he wanted custom placeholders as well.
hot hull
And their 2 brain cells (no offense bardy)
jovial warren
And their 2 brain cells (no offense bardy)
fuck you too
hot hull
<3
static zealot
love you BBG
jovial warren
you know how I am
static zealot
hot hull
With that I mean your viewing position on the matter, not your intellect
static zealot
you know how I am
you should just start completing #805698757411995648 then
jovial warren
yeah I know
static zealot
if you have that much time lmao
jovial warren
lol
hot hull
I was gonna meme on top of that, but that'd be mean
jovial warren
I just don't like the idea of people paying someone for something this easy
especially not $20
static zealot
what's so easy about that?
jovial warren
it's PAPI lol
static zealot
no its not
that's what I'm tellinjg you
I messaged the guy
he wants custom placeholders to get other servers motd
jovial warren
they told me they wanted it for PAPI
jovial warren
let's see if I can make something that works first time lol
static zealot
if it was just PAPI then yes. but he told me that PAPI is not even necessary just custom placeholders at least. PAPI if I want
half harness
whats a good price for around 25 hours of work 👀
jovial warren
just going to ask them to make sure lol
jovial warren
whats a good price for around 25 hours of work 👀
fuck all xD
half harness
😳
static zealot
about a request-paid
static zealot
it got removed dw
static zealot
it was " a good deal "
prisma wave
literally just papi + String#equals for $30
static zealot
someone wanted a plugin that executes commands when some custom placeholders match a value
not true BM
half harness
👀
static zealot
once again
prisma wave
well
static zealot
he wanted custom placeholders
prisma wave
pretty much
jovial warren
this is a bit more complex than that
jovial warren
he wants you to intercept when a placeholder is replaced and run a command if the value of the replacement is a certain value
prisma wave
ah
half harness
still not worth $30
static zealot
every tick
prisma wave
not sure it said that on the request lol
jovial warren
which I believe is pretty much impossible
half harness
😠
jovial warren
it was $20-$30
half harness
whats a good price for around 25 hours of work 👀
any opinions? ||im horrible at pricing||
static zealot
also I was thinking of something else lmao. for some reason I also thought he wants custom types like equals equals ignorecase contains etc.
jovial warren
is it even possible to listen for plugins replacing placeholders?
static zealot
any opinions? ||im horrible at pricing||
you should calculate that. you know how much you've worked in those hours
prisma wave
any opinions? ||im horrible at pricing||
depending on the work $10-$15/hr seems reasonable
static zealot
is it even possible to listen for plugins replacing placeholders?
just have a runnable lmao xD
half harness
uh
static zealot
oh wait now that I think about it its not as easy as having a runable
because he wants the commands just once
half harness
i tend to do like $0.50 per hour
static zealot
when its replaced
jovial warren
$10-$15/hr? jesus christ I miss out on a lot
static zealot
not every time lmao
prisma wave
i tend to do like $0.50 per hour
for fixed price same
static zealot
i tend to do like $0.50 per hour
that's a good price.
half harness
i meant
static zealot
xD
prisma wave
if paid hourly i'd usually ask for $15
jovial warren
the person I work for sponsors me on Patreon for £10 a month now for the work I do lol
static zealot
if paid hourly i'd usually ask for $15
yes but like is his time as good as yours? Like you can probably do much more in the same amount of time as dkim. so that's why I think prices should vary from person to person as well
half harness
im still java nub
static zealot
like that's why I like more payment per work not per hour
jovial warren
imagine counting your hours
prisma wave
if it was a commission why didn't you arrange a price in advance lol
static zealot
because I know I can spend 1 hour but others can do the same thing in maybe 30 minutes
also that
you should have TOS and a price set at the beginning
half harness
whats piggys tos
static zealot
piggypiglet.me I think
also I've seen people charge for fixes on their own broken shit.
which kinda sucks.
half harness
👀
half harness
piggypiglet.me I think
can't find it
jovial warren
that's probably the best ToS I've seen in a while
half harness
link?
jovial warren
also, you remember you mentioned that runnable task?
static zealot
Tearms Of sERVICE
jovial warren
blitz
half harness
o
prisma wave
piggypiglet.me I think
dkim you know you can just type that into the search bar right?
half harness
im blind
static zealot
yeah I know it won't work BBG
jovial warren
how would you even do that?
static zealot
said above why
jovial warren
yeah
half harness
dkim you know you can just type that into the search bar right?
i couldn't find the tos
jovial warren
so it's impossible then
static zealot
not just when its changed
jovial warren
what he's asking for is impossible
without changes to PAPI (to have an event fire every time a placeholder is replaced)
static zealot
ah for PAPI yes. for custom ones tho not for all.
prisma wave
nah i think it would be possible
half harness
i have a question
compact perchBOT
There is no time to wait! Ask your question @half harness!
prisma wave
you could make a placeholder that delegates it
static zealot
how? PAPI doesn't fire na event on every placeholder change
prisma wave
wait what's the actual request
static zealot
execute a command
once a placeholder is changed
and matches a value
but just once
static zealot
like you can't just do runnable
it would do it every time
it finds the same value
prisma wave
just add a check lol
static zealot
he wants it only when it changes
prisma wave
store the previous value and compare then
jovial warren
that's literally impossible then
static zealot
yeah I thought about that as well but idk.
prisma wave
im like 80% sure it's possible
jovial warren
without making some hacks.exe like a runnable every tick (that would probably sacrifice performance)
static zealot
well I am sure it is possible and impossible lmao
prisma wave
i dont think the performance hit would be that bad
jovial warren
or changes to PAPI to have an event be fired every time a placeholder is replaced
static zealot
without making some hacks.exe like a runnable every tick (that would probably sa...
yeah if there's many options in config then yteah probably
prisma wave
scoreboard plugins do placeholder parsing every tick afaik
static zealot
but if they're just a few then probably not that bad
half harness
what should I do if this happens: ```
- Give plugin (just a medium sized one... $5 worth)
- They dont respond
- They say they have issues with their pc
- They don't respond for days again
- They ask "How is you?"
- They say they got their paypal banned
lol
half harness
It's just $5... so im not going to go all crazy about it
prisma wave
lol
static zealot
I was thinking of a blacklist. where I would just add people that don't pay or are just crazy or anything and don't work with them in the future lmao
prisma wave
a guy didnt pay me for a $20 plugin when i was like 12, i felt really sad
half harness
lol
static zealot
@hot hull doesn't get paid on a daily basis so you can ask him lmao
static zealot
damn is it bad if I use ConfigMe and Spigot's getConfig? xD
prisma wave
linked lists
prisma wave
usually array
half harness
I'm trying to make "ids" sort of... but currently I just use UUID.random() or whatever the method is 😂
im lazy
static zealot
I need to read the COnfigMe docs 😦 to understand what bean proprieties are. I hate reading 😦
prisma wave
property = field + getter + setter
static zealot
yeah but what's a bean
prisma wave
I'm trying to make "ids" sort of... but currently I just use `UUID.random()` or ...
nothing wrong with that
half harness
but i make the users type the uuid
prisma wave
ah
static zealot
ah so I can just save custom type objects
prisma wave
you can probably use static for that
half harness
just make an integer that increments then
good idea 🤣
half harness
you can probably use static for that
😳
prisma wave
data class Blah(
val id: Long = ++highestId
) {
companion object {
private var highestId = 0
}
init {
highestId = max(id, highestId)
//If we're deserializing something with an ID of eg 6, we need to make sure that highestId compensates for this
}
}
``` i did something like this recentlypretty clever imo
static zealot
hmm I don't like configMe. idk how to get a list of lists xD
half harness
triumphconfig
static zealot
its just updated configme
jovial warren
```kotlin
data class Blah(
val id: Long = ++highestId
) {
companion object {...
that looks proper whack
static zealot
tho I'm thinking of updating because I like the @Path annotation
prisma wave
that looks proper whack
quiet
it's pseudocode
and effective
ez incrementing ids with no duplicates
jovial warren
fair
static zealot
is 1.0.1 latest version of trimph-config?
static zealot
yo @ocean quartz need a little help. I added the path annotation but it still takes the first value as the path? https://i.imgur.com/T5k2BYf.png.? I think I'm using 1.0.2-SNAPSHOT
oh wait. there's even 1.0.5 lmao
welp
fuck
obtuse gale
Lmfao
ocean quartz
Blitz wtf, why are you using ConfigMe stuff?
ocean quartz
Doesn't matter the version you don't create a property like that and you don't need jvmstatic
Why do you need a property mapper?
static zealot
yes I know I've changed that.
ocean quartz
Why do you need a property mapper?
ocean quartz
Oh
Where did you even see that?
static zealot
I can't even find it now lmao
jovial warren
@prisma wave going back to my earlier thing about the messaging thingy btw, if I'm publishing a message to every server and waiting to deal with a response from one of them, how can I know when no one has the player?
I ain't using a timeout, since that's going to be super slow
and I'd rather not have every single server send back a response
static zealot
anyways I figured it out. yeah idk why I thought I need that. I forgot lmao.
and Matt I just thought its all same as ConfigMe just change the path in the annotation. I didn't know its Property.create
ocean quartz
I made it a lot different, the property initializer was annoying to use and wouldn't work well in Kotlin
prisma wave
easiest way would be to send a response back from each
jovial warren
fair
static zealot
I made it a lot different, the property initializer was annoying to use and woul...
yeah I didn't know that since there's no documentation I went for an old message you sent but then found out there's 1.0.5 not just 1.0.2 and also decided to go thru triumph chat to see how you used it
ocean quartz
Yeah i need to write that stuff 😫
forest pecan
Just to verify .find() in matcher checks if any ocurrance is found within the string, but .matches() checks if the whole string matches, right?
jovial warren
matches will check if your input matches the given regex
find will give you a match
obtuse gale
matches basically adds ^ and $ and the beginning and end of the pattern so to say
And checks the whole thing
forest pecan
in my case, i want to check if a version is a specific version like it matches 1.8,1.9,1.10,1.11,1.12
and its not guaranteed
that it will always whole thing match cause of sub versions
so would i use .find()?
cause .matches checks the whole thing, and 1.8.9 does not match to 1.8 if its the whole thing
obtuse gale
Yeah sounds like you would use find
forest pecan
Kk sounds good
i was like wtf my regex works wat lol
then i realized it was matches()
lunar cypress
this sounds like you perhaps shouldn't use a regex
forest pecan
well, originally i made an imutableset
of the legacy string versions
then made a loop
but i found that regex could get the job done
lunar cypress
what is it that you want to do exactly
check if one version is higher than another?
forest pecan
No..
hot hull
Just get the server package, split it and get the exact version?
forest pecan
i could do that, but in my case its limited to a specific range of versions
hot hull
Doesn't change the fact
forest pecan
well im using Bukkit.getVersion
and checking if it contains a string
by using regex
im only using the server package thing for nms
hot hull
Bukkit.getServer().getClass().getPackage().getName().split("\.")[3] iirc
Which gives you everything you need
ocean quartz
Bukkit version won't tell you the R version of the server
forest pecan
i dont need that tho
hot hull
Whos that aimed at Pulse
forest pecan
im just checking if the server version is between 1.8-1.13
lol
idc what sub version
it is
hot hull
So then use what I said and just check with that?
ocean quartz
if (Bukkit.isPlebVersion())
forest pecan
Pattern.compile("1\\.(?:8|9|10|11|12)").matcher(ver).find()
where
final String ver = Bukkit.getVersion();
jovial warren
fun Bukkit.isGodVersion() = Bukkit.getServer().javaClass.`package`.name.split("\.")[3].contains("1_8")
```xDlmao
hot hull
You should be shot
hot hull
bardy
jovial warren
unfortunately, we must accept that 1.8 is still widely in use for PvPers
if it wasn't, I wouldn't support 1.8
lunar cypress
Broken record
forest pecan
^
hot hull
You can still not support it
jovial warren
I'd rather support it for now until it drops out of use, then drop it
prisma wave
well
forest pecan
should be a gamerule to enable 1.8 pvp
prisma wave
i was actually pretty surprised yesterday
1.8 is only something like 6% of all servers
i thought it was much bigger
jovial warren
yeah it's going down
forest pecan
including viaversion?
prisma wave
idk
static zealot
@forest pecan show him the ss you sent over a few days ago or whenever xD
from the IS discord
static zealot
the kid
regal gale
I don't think the 6% is actually small lol
jovial warren
Iridium Skyblock will be dropping 1.8-1.12 support soon
prisma wave
I don't think the 6% is actually small lol
it is compared to the like 85% of servers that are on 1.16 variants
forest pecan
jovial warren
well, Iridium Skyblock's getting it's database system rewritten to use ORMLite thanks to me as well
static zealot
@jovial warren ^ do you still want to support 1.8? with guys like that?
prisma wave
ugh
regal gale
Many friends i know still obsessed with 1.8 however