try guess what that does without compiling it
#dev-general
quiet depot
static zealot
lmao
vast pilot
MySentenceWasBrokeInBetween.exe
prisma wave
hot hull
try guess what that does without compiling it
Cures depression?
oak coyote
I hope so
prisma wave
try guess what that does without compiling it
im gonna guess hello world
oak coyote
I need that in my life
hot hull
Damn, I need to compile and run that shit fast
quiet depot
yeah bm it's just a hello world
probably should've done something a bit less obvious
prisma wave
System.out was kinda a giveaway
quiet depot
it's brainfuck compiled to java
prisma wave
o lmao
hot hull
How is that hello world tho
oak coyote
What did that to the file?
quiet depot
lol
quiet depot
it's beautiful in a way
prisma wave
How is that hello world tho
o.write(m[p]);
o.flush();```
every character loaded into `m`, p increments and runs that each timeim guessing
quiet depot
that this brainfuck to java converter does it better than most obfuscators
oak coyote
It is, how bad is obfuscation for performance in that regard
quiet depot
not really noticeable
oak coyote
😱
quiet depot
i mean this code would take much longer than a System.out.println("Hello World!") to execute
but we're talking about minuscule amounts of time
oak coyote
You have to tell me what which one you used
quiet depot
it's a brainfuck to java converter jerry
unless you want to write in brainfuck this isn't a viable option
oak coyote
Dam mosey it is
static zealot
brainfuck that sounds like its going to fuck with my brain
quiet depot
this is the original code ++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<.+++.------.--------.>>+.>++.
prisma wave
beautiful
static zealot
oh lmao
oak coyote
That is cute
quiet depot
yeah i've been experimenting with brainfuck
that helloworld is from the wiki
but I made my own little thing that prints "h" and a newline
it's actually considerably easier than I thought it would be
all ig h and a newline isn't overly hard
static zealot
-[--->+<]>-.[---->+++++<]>-.+.++++++++++.+[---->+<]>+++.-[--->++<]>-.++++++++++.+[---->+<]>+++.[-->+++++++<]>.++.-------------.[--->+<]>---..+++++.-[---->+<]>++.+[->+++<]>.++++++++++++..---.[-->+<]>--------.++[--->++<]>.++++[->++<]>.-------.+++++++.-------.+++++++.-------.+++++++.-------.+++++++.-------.+++++++.-------.+[--->++<]>++.++[--->++<]>.+++[->++<]>.[++>-------<]>.+[->+++<]>+.++++++++.-[++>---<]>+.--[->++++<]>+.----------.++++++.```fyi this brainfuck to java converter is also written in brainfuck lol
that's some dedication
static zealot
lmao
quiet depot
doesn't just compile to java
compiles to c, ruby, go, tcl, java
and 386 linux executables
forest pecan
is it fair to make it so that my jar is obsfucated but the code is open source to make people who decompile look like dumbasses
lol
hot hull
Will be annoying to help with issues but I mean that's fair
remote goblet
its more work
people who decompile are dumbasses anyway but eh
decompiles minecraft code
forest pecan
lmao
static zealot
vast pilot
.
jovial warren
@prisma wave any ideas why depending on PDM 0.0.32 gives me PDM runtime 0.0.30?
static zealot
are you sure about that
jovial warren
I'm saying in the compileClasspath list it says 0.0.30
jovial warren
very
jovial warren
prisma wave
the gradle plugin has about 30 different hacks so im not surprised something broke
jovial warren
lol
prisma wave
try now
jovial warren
might take a minute or two to fully deploy to Gradle
oh also, is it only the runtime and common-lib that get published to your repo?
might have to clear the cache for this for it to work
prisma wave
oh also, is it only the runtime and common-lib that get published to your repo?
yes
i only redeployed the plugin
the others dont matter
prisma wave
odd
jovial warren
does Gradle even let you force override like that?
steel heart
Cmd reminds me of FactionsUUID or smtng
remote goblet
thats just how i name all my packages 
dont bully me
prisma wave
<@!266973575225933824> works now btw, cheers Alex
de rien
old wyvern
👀
jovial warren
right
signal tinsel
Can I use github actions to automatically compile?
jovial warren
shush you use TODO() in kotlin
imagine not using TODO
signal tinsel
If so, how
jovial warren
if you have Pro I think so
remote goblet
Imagine using a function that intentionally throws an error 
seems dumb to me
ever thought about remembering to do something
jovial warren
ever thought about forgetting
TODO gives you a helpful reminder that you've forgotten to implement something
old wyvern
I'd buy pro for that tbh
Student dev pack
jovial warren
^
jovial warren
if you're like 13+ and at school you can get it
remote goblet
i got it yesterday
signal tinsel
I don't have a school email
jovial warren
even if your school isn't on the list and doesn't have a domain ending in .edu
obtuse gale
Ripp
jovial warren
my school's domain ends in .co.uk and I still got it lol
signal tinsel
Anyway
signal tinsel
I don't think you need github pro to auto compile using actions
remote goblet
yeah but like
jovial warren
you don't need it, but you get quite a strict limit without it
remote goblet
free access to intellij ultimate, goland, clion, data grip, php storm, pycharm, webstorm, ect 
jovial warren
also, imagine having private repos amirite
signal tinsel
What's the limit
signal tinsel
also, *imagine having private repos amirite*
Yeah I know lmao
jovial warren
oh also, another reason for using Linux
signal tinsel
Considering I only need to compile on the main branch, and I work on a development branch
jovial warren
Linux has a minute multiplier of 1, so for every minute on Linux it's a minute on GitHub Actions
for Windows it's x2
and for MacOS, x10
jovial warren
jovial warren
signal tinsel
That's why I came for help
jovial warren
I don't use it, so I couldn't tell you really
signal tinsel
.........
jovial warren
just read the links I sent
half harness
lol
jovial warren
it's really not rocket science, trust me
signal tinsel
I'm aware
surreal quarry
bruh i just realized that when i updated nexus, i never stopped the autostart from my previous one, so every time i start my server, i end up starting 2 instances of nexus
im so stupid lmfao
surreal quarry
init.d i believe
jovial warren
init.d old
surreal quarry
yea but its what their docs tell you to use so
surreal quarry
i am now xD
surreal quarry
ye
half harness
I just got lectured to use public fields instead of getters and setters 😳
onyx loom
now is a great time to correct ur tutor then
remote goblet
couldn't this be replaced with cachedShowTypes.putIfAbsent 
half harness
now is a great time to correct ur tutor then
what should i tell him
remote goblet
they're objectively wrong
half harness
ill copy and paste
onyx loom
well why do u think public fields is a wrong idea dkim
surreal quarry
couldn't this be replaced with cachedShowTypes.putIfAbsent <:thonk:6081785680353...
looks like it
half harness
also iirc it "clones" or something, so u have to use methods to modify vars
onyx loom
theres no point u coming to this discord to say something ur tutor has said wrong if u dont know why
half harness
i wanted to see which was correct, if I should use getters/setters or not
remote goblet
your tutor wasn't but why weren't they
surreal quarry
also iirc it "clones" or something, so u have to use methods to modify vars
you might be thinking of pass by value vs pass by reference or something but that wouldn't really affect anything differently if you used public vs private + get/setters
surreal quarry
you would still be able to modify the value
regal gale
L
onyx loom
no
half harness
like for example ```java
plugin.someVariable.anotherVariable = "str";
not now 😅
surreal quarry
A
half harness
plugin.getSomeVariable().setAnotherVariable("str");
```which one better?well what language is this
remote goblet
looks like js to me
onyx loom
lol
half harness
that wouldn't do anything
the first one?
surreal quarry
the second one, but you edited it now lol
regal gale
Well... on second thought, GDScript from Godot looked quite the same format as Python...
regal gale
?
surreal quarry
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11071407/advantage-of-set-and-get-methods-vs-public-variable heres a SO post on your exact question dkim
surreal quarry
use context bruh
half harness
SO
surreal quarry
i sent you a StackOverflow link
surreal quarry
and said this is a SO post
regal gale
Anyway, you can most likely tell by the function format: function e(): pass
I'm into this 👀
prisma wave
couldn't this be replaced with cachedShowTypes.putIfAbsent <:thonk:6081785680353...
yes
half harness
I think it was a mistake to say that lots of experienced people say not to use public vars-
prisma wave
ask whoever's saying public vars are good for their reasoning
half harness
ask whoever's saying public vars are good for their reasoning
🤔
btw I barely even know what encapsulation is
prisma wave
elaborate
half harness
😳
half harness
😳
lunar cypress
Those are literally screenshots of my messages
half harness
half jackal
??
surreal quarry
lmao
steel heart
Isn’t that what exerosis said
lunar cypress
I know, I was joking
half harness
:p
lunar cypress
But I did say the exact same things somewhere else before
half harness
👀 this guy sus
half harness
Isn’t that what exerosis said
- whos exerosis
- im not in dms with him either 👀
steel heart
Johnny is jesus?
half harness
wot
compact perchBOT
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half jackal
but i did
steel heart
Dkim don’t act dumb
half jackal
in #development
surreal quarry
someone will answer if they can help you
don't ask in here for help somewhere else
half harness
Dkim don’t act dumb
i'm not-
Although I will say that the guy mentioned exerosis, but I'm not acting dumb, I don't know who he is ;-;
steel heart
Thought you talked with him the other day
lunar cypress
Conclure your name is triggering me
half harness
Thought you talked with him the other day
o
lunar cypress
It doesn't make sense NotLikeThis
ocean quartz
You're always in really weird places
half harness
lol
steel heart
gtg and afk
steel heart
Lmao
unkempt tangle
Can anyone deobfuscate me a code ;C
forest pecan
what
half harness
what
unkempt tangle
Last line is plain
half harness
Anyone know if its possible to use something like playerinteractevent to make blocking in 1.8 work in a 1.16 server? (Yes, I'm trying to make a 1.16 server with 1.8 combat.... probably will be unsuccessful but I want to get it as close as possible)
unkempt tangle
half harness
:p
forest pecan
who the hell that is skilled enough would even program in those languages
obtuse gale
ur mum
unkempt tangle
lunar cypress
"deobfuscate" without saying what this even is
👍
this just looks like you opened some binary format in a text editor
unkempt tangle
Yes I did
lunar cypress
Yes I did
in case you're not trolling, you can't "deobfuscate" this. you just opened it with the wrong program
unkempt tangle
Then how do I figure out what the right program is?
Each file has actually an header
lunar cypress
you haven't said anything about what the file is
ocean quartz
Would help if you told us what it is
unkempt tangle
A binary that includes translated strings.
lunar cypress
that is not a precise description of the format
unkempt tangle
Johnny the informations you are seeking from me. Is exactly what I am asking you.
lunar cypress
You do have the file though?
unkempt tangle
I wouldnt ask, if I would know the answers.
lunar cypress
You have to know at least what format the file is
usually that isn't hard to find out if you look at the extension
unkempt tangle
bin
lunar cypress
and if you seriously have no idea you'll need to open it in a hex editor and look for clues
unkempt tangle
Also there is an idx file probabbly the index file.
lunar cypress
ok bin is not a standard, where does the file come from
regal gale
...?
lunar cypress
😂 👌
unkempt tangle
I dont know
regal gale
Because that is an alien language, and he wants to study to be an alien 
||that was a joke btw||
unkempt tangle
Why is everyone mean to me 😭
lunar cypress
who's being mean?
unkempt tangle
half harness
heres a better question: Where did you get that file
lunar cypress
I just asked that
unkempt tangle
A friend of mien
lunar cypress
And they don't want to answer
regal gale
Johnny just asked it way back
half harness
welp
unkempt tangle
I was interested too
half harness
we can't really do much...... if we don't know what the file is for
ocean quartz
Still no information about the file lol
unkempt tangle
...
half harness
ask your friend where they got it
regal gale
Here's a better question: Do you even know what you are doing?
half harness
lol
forest pecan
public class HelloWorld {
public static void main(final String[] array) {
float lllllllIlIllIII = HelloWorld.lllI[0];
while (llIll((int)lllllllIlIllIII, HelloWorld.lllI[1])) {
++lllllllIlIllIII;
"".length();
if (" ".length() == (" ".length() << (" ".length() << " ".length()) & ~(" ".length() << (" ".length() << " ".length())))) {
throw null;
}
}
}
}
It's not that hard "translation file for game xy thay i got from x place to do y thing" just explain yourself lol
unkempt tangle
hell no
quiet depot
n3w0rk did they just send that paste alone?
forest pecan
XD
lunar cypress
this is probably a dead end, but you can at least try https://www.checkfiletype.com/
quiet depot
or did you just pick a random file
half jackal
i need help
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There is no time to wait! Ask your question @half jackal!
unkempt tangle
There are more files.
unkempt tangle
But they are flagged with _de.bin _en.bin
lunar cypress
though if this is some random binary format nobody knows you'll have to reverse engineer it
unkempt tangle
I thought en is the most interested one
regal gale
??
forest pecan
wait me?
half harness
no
forest pecan
oh
quiet depot
dkim obfuscation isn't a technique unique to java
forest pecan
^^
ocean quartz
he said to deobfuscate... even tho its not a .java file
Other languages obfuscate too lol
regal gale
Yeah
forest pecan
its used in C# and many others
half harness
but we might have to decompile it if its compiled
👀
and im 99% sure theres no decompiler for every language
unkempt tangle
.NET "needs" obfuscating too
quiet depot
n3w0rk if you want a serious answer about what it might be, you need to upload the entire thing
surreal quarry
I have an API, and I have some dependencies for that api as compileOnly because they are provided by my plugin, however this means that when using the API certain types aren't available because they are compileOnly. I have tried api, but that seems to include it in the jar, which I don't want because its unnecessary. Is there anything that would be like compileOnlyApi lol
quiet depot
@surreal quarry you shouldn't need to
explain the situation more clearly
what dependency specifically
where is the dependency coming from
hot hull
Anyone wanna contribute and figure out why it doesn't serialize and deserialize properly? Would appreciate it 
https://github.com/op65n/VaultManager
quiet depot
frosty link the relevant classes
quiet depot
you should really prefer the bukkit scheduler over an executor service for async operations
surreal quarry
My API depends on hololib, a library I created, which contains a class called Hologram. My api has a HologramManager, and some of the methods use the Hologram as params or return types, which means that you can't really do anything with the HologramManager
I think my issue may be that I was applying shadowJar to my api project though, cause i just changed that and it seems to be providing the classes to whatever project uses my api without shading
quiet depot
so you fixed it?
quiet depot
👍
surreal quarry
Ok, I'm back doesn't seem to be working. I am basically wanting to be able to provide access to my dependencies (preferably only in the compile classpath) without them actually having to add the dependency to their pom/build.gradle, and im not sure which "method" for the dependencies (api, compileOnly, implementation, etc)
By doing api and not shading, I get the following in the compile classpath, but only the dev.jaims ones are actually available for use.
surreal quarry
I have a moducore project, which has two modules, the plugin and the api. the plugin shades the api as well as the dependencies the api needs so its available at runtime. Other plugins wishing to use the moducore api, would specify it as provided/compileOnly since its available at runtime
steel heart
Thought api was meant to shade in
surreal quarry
At least thats what im going for
steel heart
Since it’s basically implementation but transitive
quiet depot
use the api keyword in the api subproject james
because when people use the moducore api, they're going to be using compileOnly
so it won't shade in
surreal quarry
oh thats facts
steel heart
compileOnlyApi exist
steel heart
Weird
quiet depot
are you using the java library plugin?
steel heart
What version of gradle and do ya use java library?
surreal quarry
gradle is 6.8 and im not using the java plugin
steel heart
Hm
quiet depot
there's nothing wrong with my approach imo
surreal quarry
i may be misunderstanding, but i have nothing in my plugins block relating to java or java-library
surreal quarry
https://paste.jaims.dev/kivufegutu.cs its a kt project so maybe thats why
surreal quarry
ah ok
quiet depot
that api if statement
surreal quarry
either way i think you're right since they are doing compileOnly, i can just shade these libraries and use api for my api module
quiet depot
don't do that
surreal quarry
better alternative is?
surreal quarry
good call
quiet depot
with kotlin conclure?
surreal quarry
steel heart
"java-library"
surreal quarry
lemme try to add the java-library plugin
stuck harbor
mf msg mmmmm
hot hull
So anyone got any suggestions?
steel heart
For? :0
ocean quartz
mf msg mmmmm
mmmm indead
hot hull
steel heart
Btw frosty what doesn’t work if you can be more specific?
hot hull
Serialization and deserialization
steel heart
What are you serializing?
steel heart
Oo let me see
remote goblet
gotta love code that causes unsupported operation exception
hot hull
Oo let me see
And that was the last we heard of him
steel heart
Yeah
I ate some yummy noodles
Wait
Is this stored as base 64?
Oh ye
Have you done any debugging ?
hot hull
Yes, it prints the serialized string, however when it get's deserialized the inventory is empty, so I'm presuming it's either how it returns the itemstacks, or something linked to that
steel heart
Is FileConfiguration#loadFromString suppose to take a base64 string?
hot hull
I copied what matt did, and his was base64 so idk
steel heart
d;spigot FileConfiguration#loadFromString
ruby craterBOT
steel heart
Hmm kinda sus
I wonder what type of string it takes
But that can be a potential bug factor
forest pecan
glacial halo
Where do i find the latest dev build for deluxe tags and deluxe chat with rgb color support please. thank you.
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
glacial halo
i already did this last year...
half harness
then #deluxechat
glacial halo
half harness
prob better support
glacial halo
what about deluxe tags
half harness
or ask in #general-plugins / #general-plugins-2
glacial halo
right
ocean quartz
or ask in <#164280494874165248> / <#605713478690537472>
Nay, deluxe chat lol
half harness
Nay, deluxe chat lol
wot
old wyvern
#deluxe-chat
onyx loom
lol
ocean quartz
Don't send people to general plugins when there is a channel for it lol
onyx loom
imagine not having deluxechat so u dont know the channel name 
half harness
🤷
half harness
imagine not having deluxechat so u dont know the channel name <:clojuremoon:7450...
🥲
ocean quartz
https://discord.com/channels/164280494874165248/695431668944732270/8073163333059...
Yes but right after you told them to ask in general plugins lol
half harness
;-;
steel heart
imagine not having deluxechat so u dont know the channel name <:clojuremoon:7450...
I use free version, AsyncFakeDeluxeChat
onyx loom
o
obtuse gale
PULSE
RULES
- Don't include yourself in piracy talks or activities, including plugin leaks.
wind patio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSUdOmrd2Wg
just gonna leave this here
steel heart
Bing is bing 
forest pecan
```md
- Don't include yourself in piracy talks or activities, including plugin l...
opijiohuoh
half harness
Anyone know why the src folder isn't generating ;-;
I didn't touch any of the files
tImE tO dElEtE aNd ReGeNeRaTe
yess it worked
idk y
btw is there any reason not to use DCEVM jdk?
I already have it and should I not use it if I'm not hotswapping?
empty flint
@prisma wave Hey, buddy, friendo, amigo... I got another stupid hacky kotlin thing I wanna do and can't and I don't understand why I can't. Mind teaching me a bit, oh prophet of the superior coding language?
forest pecan
tf lol
old wyvern
forest pecan
lmao
old wyvern
lol did you watch his fizzbuzz one? xD
empty flint
This is the issue I don't understand.
Use of enum entry names as types is not allowed, use enum type instead
I have an enum class Foo and am trying to use it as a type for an interface Bar<out T : Foo> so that I can then have a class that implements it Foobar : Bar<Foo.Fooo> or whatever
mellow kestrel
i have a question
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empty flint
Shut up Barry, nobody asked you
mellow kestrel
lol
old wyvern
i have a question
Interesting
mellow kestrel
so i made a server and idk how tf to add a role especially a color role
mellow kestrel
:0
empty flint
Whoops I made a mistake there, @prisma wave. The interface is Bar<out T : Foo> with Foo being an enum. I feel like it should just be Bar<out Foo> though. Not sure. It's been a while
What I don't really get is why it lets me declare the interface without any issue, but I can't actually use it
prisma wave
you can't do that
enum constants aren't types
consider using a sealed class + objects for a similar effect
empty flint
but but but...
my stupid hacky plans
Kinda don't like sealed classes tbh
any other way to do this?
surreal quarry
why do you not like sealed classes lmao
isnt it the exact same except you know all the classes that extend it
prisma wave
yes
empty flint
isnt it the exact same except you know all the classes that extend it
Exactly, so why shouldn't I be able to use enums there, since it's basically the same shit.
No I know they are different of course
prisma wave
enum constants aren't individual types
empty flint
The only reason I don't like them is because of OCD reasons. I know it sounds stupid but I really frickin hate that I have to declare them all in one file and then that one file is the only file in the IDE that doesn't have its file ending hidden. It's a mental disorder. I am sick. Don't judge.
prisma wave
whereas objects in a sealed class are
use java sealed classes then lol
except you need java 15 for that 🥲
but i agree, it's kinda messy
but pretty much the same as enums if you do it nested
syntax is very similar
empty flint
like this?
sealed class Foo
object DooDoo : Foo()
object PeePoo : Foo()
object Kevin : Foo()
inside
empty flint
Oh the objects are inside the Foo?
old wyvern
Yea
ocean quartz
Is there any difference between java's sealed classes and kotlin's?
old wyvern
Java sealed classes can be anywhere
The sealed class can declare the classes that can extend it
empty flint
Oh is that so I have to type Foo.DooDoo instead of just DooDoo?
old wyvern
Yes
empty flint
Gotcha
prisma wave
Is there any difference between java's sealed classes and kotlin's?
java also has sealed interfaces, whereas kotlin doesn't
For now
I expect they'll add it once java adds support
ocean quartz
It's added in the 1.5 experimental for 1.4.30
prisma wave
ah noice
onyx loom
kotlin 1.5 
onyx loom
objection
u can make plugins with kotlin
cant with elara (yet)
opinion is subject to change once this is done
empty flint
yeah
they exist tho
just wanted to update you on that in case your info is old
if you knew they were a thing carry on
prisma wave
yup
prisma wave
opinion is subject to change once this is done
opinion will change
empty flint
😄
surreal quarry
Matt is there any way to use the property and get the settings manager that it was assigned in
ocean quartz
There isn't, thought about that but tbh couldn't even think of a way to implement that
surreal quarry
alright
obtuse gale
theUnsafe
forest pecan
regal gale
That's... disorientating
pale crown
Is there a better way of working out how many times a block has had bonemeal used on it other than storing every block that has been bonemealed in a database/yml file?
remote goblet
unlikely
pale crown
Oof
pale crown
Block MetaData goes after server restarts though right?
remote goblet
likely
remote goblet
pale crown
Yeah I’ll try tomorrow
remote goblet
setting somethings meta data value is usually resets
orchid frigate
I'm looking for a dev to help with some plugins for my minecraft server ❤️
surreal quarry
orchid frigate
Thanks
forest pecan
quick question, if i had a for each loop like this:
boolean usingLegacy = false;
final String ver = Bukkit.getVersion();
for (final String str : ImmutableSet.of("1.8", "1.9", "1.10", "1.11", "1.12")) {
if (ver.contains(str)) {
usingLegacy = true;
break;
}
}
Would the ImmutableSet.of("1.8", "1.9", "1.10", "1.11", "1.12") be defined 5 times? or only once
i would think once, but im not sure
ocean quartz
It'll break once it finds one and sets it, so only once
obtuse gale
is ther a staff online pleas
i can not link my spigot account
Stream#anyMatch(Predicate<? super T>)
smh @forest pecan
obtuse gale
final boolean legacy = ImmutableList.of("1.8", "1.9", "1.10", "1.11", "1.12").stream()
.anyMatch(Bukkit.getVersion()::contains);
😍
forest pecan
isnt that super slow
comparatively
cause you are using list
i mean its only 5 elements ig
obtuse gale
why would it be slower because it's a list?
in any case an arraylist is faster than a hashset (or even a linkedhashset) when iterating
forest pecan
im using .contains
which is O(1) for hashset...
but its O(N) for arraylist
oh wait
obtuse gale
you're using contains......... on a string
ocean quartz
isnt that super slow
Yall worry too much about small performance
obtuse gale
Pattern.compile("1\\.(?:8|9|10|11|12)") :kekw:
forest pecan
my dad is willing to make an array of sets rather than a list of sets
although that makes sense
cause in the case i was dealing with.. the performance difference was rather...
high
i will just say that
and actually
regex is prolly the best anyways lmao
so i will use that
obtuse gale
lol
obtuse gale
an array is a list though...
hallow crane
wat
forest pecan
no im being serious
hallow crane
no
obtuse gale
not a list object
forest pecan
my runtime got reduced by 2 seconds by using an array
hallow crane
oh
forest pecan
compared to an arraylist
obtuse gale
but it's an actual list
hallow crane
u mean a theoretical list
obtuse gale
lol
hallow crane
like 1 2 3 4 5
obtuse gale
yea
hallow crane
java be whack
obtuse gale
I mean the backbone of an ArrayList is literally a primitive array anyway lol
hence the name
hallow crane
True, but its also dynamic sized 🦈
obtuse gale
in case you didn't notice
hallow crane
what
obtuse gale
True, but its also dynamic sized 🦈
eeeh not quite
hallow crane
ArrayLists as a high level object have a dynamic length
hallow crane
But not in reference to their primitives
obtuse gale
well yeah, but the backend array if the size increases gets copied and replaced
hallow crane
obtuse gale
pulse what the hell are you talking about
hallow crane
List<Set<List<Set<Map<Set<List>,List<Set>>>>>>
obtuse gale
ikr
forest pecan
comparing an ArrayList of Set to Array of Set
the difference is huge
one reduced 2 seconds
obtuse gale
why in the world would you hate yourself that much
forest pecan
No
hallow crane
Not that much
forest pecan
im serious
forest pecan
you want proof?
hallow crane
yes
forest pecan
Ok
hallow crane
BS
forest pecan
So while using Array:
obtuse gale
like a Set<>[]?
hallow crane
whatever profiler you're using was designed by a tech camp student in 2012 using eclipse copying code from the IT camp's website program
obtuse gale
LOL
forest pecan
its not eclipse, and im being serious here tho
hallow crane
'serious'
I do big data for a living
sorting of gigabytes of data
optimized algorigthms
Timsort is good look it up
primarily in Java
bogosort = 😩
obtuse gale
unless you're talking about hundreds of thousands of elements, or even possibly millions, 2 seconds is cause of your fried cpu
hallow crane
what is the data
forest pecan
integers
forest pecan
?
hallow crane
straight from the basement of "Dunkin Smith" in 2009 learning python 2.1 from his grandpa's handbook
wait competition?
hallow crane
Like..a website is profiling it
hallow crane
yeah a website
hallow crane
website = server in this context
forest pecan
no they dont grade on the fucking website
they sent it to a machine
and then grade it using jvm
forest pecan
its separated
hallow crane
React.js
forest pecan
and here are the results:
hallow crane
I am gonna be real honest here I am not actually all that interested in this, I have to go do some work and fill out some paperwork
Thanks for the info
forest pecan
im just trying to make a rant here tho
hallow crane
@obtuse gale can take it from here gl
forest pecan
it dissapointed me greatly
obtuse gale
lol
forest pecan
i was thinking it was perhaps arraylist initilization
cause adding the elements
is slow
but yeah thats the results i got...
15 test cases timed out, 5 passed
where test cases 1-5 size is 100,
6-10, 2000
11-20, 10^5
obtuse gale
what's the deal? what you gotta do?
forest pecan
cause i didnt get promoted?
and the solution was using an array of sets?
and i was claiming it to be dumb at first
then i searched it up and realized that indeed arraylist is slow when adding this many
at least for initialization part, when parsing data
i don't think it was a problem with indexes, however, that is O(1)
obtuse gale
I mean primitive arrays are faster, they aren't behind layers of slow calling iterators and methods
obtuse gale
then i searched it up and realized that indeed arraylist is slow when adding thi...
are you reserving the capacity before adding them to the arraylist?
obtuse gale
you stupid bitch
forest pecan
im guessing that is why though
forest pecan
Yeah
forest pecan
Wait actually
i cant
idk how many
im going to add
its a graph
and im reading the data
obtuse gale
what's the actual thing you're doing?
forest pecan
so i cant deifne capacicty
its an undirected graph
where graphs can be repeated to visited other nodes
etc etc
obtuse gale
hm I see
forest pecan
i cant determine capacity if i dont know how the graph size is initialized at first????
which is why im pissed cause this solution should work
the only difference with that and the answer was that it the data structure with array and arraylist
obtuse gale
dance mooves
cringe
forest pecan
dont ask me
lmao
so yea, idk what else i could've used
i was sticking to list, cause, that is good practice
but apparantly dumb bitch competition was like
nonoonno
you fucking non
obtuse gale
lmao
forest pecan
so thats why i was mildly dissapointed
with the performance
lmao
Perhaps another solution i could've made is a Vector[]
however, i didn't know if Vectors were good
as I have never really used them
obtuse gale
Vectors are pretty much deprecated
obtuse gale
yea
forest pecan
they exist
forest pecan
i mean well you know
Vector has little uses cause other data structures
have better functionality
obtuse gale
but I've never used Vector itself other than for a Stack lol
forest pecan
is method recursion slower than iterative with queues and stacks?
obtuse gale
recursion over loops?
forest pecan
i know that queues and stacks have more deep recursive calls compared to method recursion before it goes to stackoverflow
nah like speed/memory wise
obtuse gale
what
obtuse gale
I'm not sure what is it you're asking lol
forest pecan
do you not know how iterative recursion works lol
i think you know it
but never heard of the name
like
Stack<Integer> = ...
stack.push(firstObject);
// while not empty
while (!stack.isEmpty()) {
// Pop off end of stack.
int obj = stack.pop();
// Do stuff.
// Push other objects on the stack as needed.
...
}
I don't see how that is recursive
forest pecan
// Push other objects on the stack as needed.
thats where the recursion like iterative comes in
you add its "children" to the stack
like in recursion, you access them right
in stack, you just add em there
so its not really "recursion" ig
but more like a different form
obtuse gale
I mean that isn't recursive lol
it's just a regular loop with a, maybe "non-specified" if you want to call it like that, exit condition
forest pecan
eh not really cause you still
end up going through all elements
like you know in a tree, you recurse each of the children right after visiting parent
in the method
obtuse gale
that is recursive, yes
forest pecan
Yeah, this is very similar in the sense that for some data structures, adding to it adds to the front
so when you go again in the iteration, you visit that child
and so on
obtuse gale
eeh
obtuse gale
I tend to link recursion to fractal-like "problems"
forest pecan
fractals lol
obtuse gale
well yeah
forest pecan
they are tho
obtuse gale
most fractals are just a recursive function
forest pecan
fractals are recursive
obtuse gale
if not all
what's the exact definition of a fractal
anyway, thing is that they depend upon themselves
that I see as recursion
forest pecan
yea depends on parent
obtuse gale
or a part of something that depends on the same process
forest pecan
infintely grows
until stackoverflow
🤡
i wanna try to see if i were to do it in graphics
wait actually it will eventually get to the point
where pixels arent small enough
to represent
obtuse gale
how can I remove a file from a git server if I pushed the file but I don't want to delete locally?
or rather my question is can I "uncommit" a single file?
stackoverflow is an amazing site
obtuse gale
:bruh:
hot hull
Not my fault it opens all the files you move into it for some fucking reason
And it crashed
obtuse gale
Amazing
hot hull
kek
hot hull
Pray fellas that this works, cause if it does, neato
static zealot
what works?
hot hull
@quiet depot Got any resources explaining clean and proper way of parsing json files?
Also, can I use github as file storage? as in I upload files to github, and then access them in my plugin somehow? Since there's gonna be a lot of files and jar will get big real quick
static zealot
typical day
obtuse gale
😔
static zealot
for me I mean
hot hull
Typical day
quiet depot
<@!181675431362035712> Got any resources explaining clean and proper way of pars...
no
but you've got me
so just ask me questions
static zealot
xd
hot hull
I have this, but it's ew, so I need a cleaner way https://paste.helpch.at/inocosuhid.java
static zealot
and then access them in my plugin somehow?
hot hull
I'll figure that out myself Blitz :p
quiet depot
getParsedChunkPopulatorFile() is this your method?
hot hull
Yes