I do enjoy gitkraken tbh
#dev-general
stuck harbor
half harness
idek what it is
ocean quartz
Gitkraken is awesome
stuck harbor
mhm
half harness
whats it do?
stuck harbor
git
onyx loom
what does gitkraken offer over hub?
half harness
🤨
stuck harbor
eh idk just google it
forest pecan
most of the stuff there expires after 6 months or smthing
at least for the domains and some other programs
stuck harbor
mmm
half harness
bOrInG
ocean quartz
Github desktop is awful, things don't work well, the ui sucks, it's very confusing
stuck harbor
it's an API
forest pecan
you probably will never use them
frigid badge
google it
stuck harbor
eh idk I just use phpmyadmin
half harness
🤷
frigid badge
phpmyadmin sucks ass
forest pecan
lol
stuck harbor
phpmyadmin sucks ass
:(
stuck harbor
building from private repos
half harness
circle?
stuck harbor
github actions?
stuck harbor
I get ads for circle ci
forest pecan
circleci is insane
half harness
i wish jitpack was on github student thingy 😔
forest pecan
its all free as well
stuck harbor
but github actions is all I need
frigid badge
doubt
stuck harbor
press X
stuck harbor
presses X
frigid badge
it can’t be easier
since you have to connect circleci, you need an account etc while with gh actions all you need is to place a yaml file in your repo
frigid badge
you do that for every public pipeline service
forest pecan
it provides better analytics and more reliable than gh actions
frigid badge
but gh having it integrated is easier than using a third party service
sure it might be better than gh actions (idk since I haven’t used circleci). But it won’t be easier to setup
forest pecan
Eh i mean i just connect and i just add a config and its done
half harness
prob never gonna use unity but i have unity student plan if I will
forest pecan
and connecting isn't too long tho
forest pecan
does gitlab have something similar to gh actions?
frigid badge
All I’m saying is that your argument is incorrect since it cannot be easier than gh actions
frigid badge
does gitlab have something similar to gh actions?
I think it does
frigid badge
All I’m saying is that your argument is incorrect since it cannot be easier than...
talking only about the setup
prisma wave
isn't gitlab's main selling point that it's git + ci in 1 place?
hot hull
Lemmo, where my feature list
prisma wave
although that doesn't apply so much nowadays lol
frigid badge
@hot hull hmm?
hot hull
Mobcoins
frigid badge
uh
hot hull
I need features list cause I lazy
half harness
i just realized i shared my serial key
fringe mountain
Can i nice guy help me out in #general-plugins please : $
half harness
can u like delete it from logs 😄 pls
hot hull
My dissapointment is immesureable and my day is ruined
forest pecan
i just realized i shared my serial key
LMAO
hot hull
@fringe mountain No
fringe mountain
;-;
forest pecan
Can i nice guy help me out in <#164280494874165248> please : $
we are less gonna help u if u ask here to get help somewhere else lol
hot hull
No can do dkim
half harness
oh
next thing I know it says "Currently this serial key is activated on 1 computer(s)"
fringe mountain
👍
hot hull
Hippity hoppity your ssh key is now my property
forest pecan
dkim when are you going to show us your social security number?
half harness
dkim when are you going to show us your social security number?
dw ill do that tmr
forest pecan
frigid badge
@half harness If isn’t in the logs as far as I can see on mobile
stuck harbor
I want ur gpg and ssh keys
forest pecan
give me your ip address
hot hull
Gpg?
forest pecan
let me ddos you
frigid badge
0.0.0.0
hot hull
Pulse, sure lemme dm
stuck harbor
127.0.0.2!
frigid badge
lmao
hot hull
Boutta get ddosed
stuck harbor
meh my IP is just on the internet
hot hull
I mean I'll show you mine as well if you want
forest pecan
lol
stuck harbor
I reboot my router all the time to stop getting poofed
forest pecan
yea
hot hull
Mine traces back to the actual data center if you check the location, so it looks like I'm gaming from the isp 😎
forest pecan
yo dkim mind if you could host a server at port 25565 on your ip? I got a surprise
jkjkjkkjjk
lol
stuck harbor
I need a good IRC bouncer tbh
forest pecan
slovenia -> slow
forest pecan
o lol
half harness
something called iNsPeCt eLeMeNt
obtuse gale
k
hot hull
@forest pecan Did you just insult slovenia you lil shit
forest pecan
yes
stuck harbor
react all the way baybee
steel heart
is it better?
stuck harbor
imo
steel heart
justify :[
stuck harbor
good
steel heart
isnt angular oop styled?
ocean quartz
React is pretty nice
surreal quarry
create-react-kotlin-app
prisma wave
isnt angular oop styled?
yea afaik
forest pecan
@half harness you better not be watching those codedred tutorials
half harness
um
half harness
well i wont be using eclipse anymore
half harness
with intellij ultimate 😄
forest pecan
well its basically free if you are a stduent
half harness
the first tutorial had 100k views but a Main.java
the horrible main.java
half harness
😐
half harness
it has to be a faq
forest pecan
yo
half harness
or blitz
forest pecan
who wants to play the ping pong game?
half harness
@forest pecan
forest pecan
@half harness
half harness
@forest pecan ||ima get muted for this||
forest pecan
@half harness || me 2||
half harness
@forest pecan ||oh well, it was fun while it lasted||
forest pecan
@half harness || its ok||
steel heart
y u hate urself lol
half harness
🤣
forest pecan
@steel heart ||gae||
half harness
wot is dat
half harness
i should be this server admin
steel heart
pulse
eager fern
what is going on
steel heart
teach him
half harness
terfs!
forest pecan
wat lol
steel heart
!?
eager fern
?
half harness
terfs u should add ?main
forest pecan
<333
half harness
yes
forest pecan
pls
steel heart
lol
half harness
Terfs has left the chat
forest pecan
okfoppasf
forest pecan
half harness
🙀
forest pecan
steel heart
helpchat admins be like
forest pecan
Terfs:
Piggy: 🥓
Funny: 🧊
Hotel? Trivago
steel heart
prisma wave
P(x) : x == gay
P(gae) -> false
is that prolog?
steel heart
predicate wanna be
steel heart
yes, the unsimilarities are caused by keyboard
prisma wave
source file or compiled file?
steel heart
die tonce then
obtuse gale
obtuse gale
lmao
steel heart
dfihupsa
obtuse gale
aspuhifd
obtuse gale
forest pecan
steel heart
lol
forest pecan
lmao
steel heart
forest pecan
obtuse gale
steel heart
old wyvern
like will i lose anything
Nope
obtuse gale
why would you uninstall ij
half harness
and get intellij ultimate
obtuse gale
hmm... sus
half harness
._.
I just said-
so that i dont accidentily open community 😄
uhhhh how do i activate
nvm
how do I import settings?
:c
nooo
does uninstall delete theme
:C
time to spend the next hour configuring
also src isn't showing in project
the file is there tho
and these buttons
arghhh
anyone know how to reduce the size of that
and also make the src show
I fixed the second issue, but the super big thingy is driving me crazy
welp i just made tab height 16 and it worked
whats a profiler 👀
obtuse gale
obtuse gale
2 spaces yeah
surreal quarry
I know kotlin has like private get / private set, is there anything like private modify or private mutate
I'm working on a Hologram thing and the pages are stored in a MutableList<HologramPage>, but adding to that has some more logic than simply using the list.add method, so i wanna make sure people can't modify it, but they should be able to access the data.
would it be better to make it a var with a private setter and just a List as opposed to a MutableList
old wyvern
define a separate property that provides a immutable list instead
old wyvern
👍
obtuse gale
👎
hallow crane
quiet depot
no shit
do you have a vps?
or server of any sort?
someone told me about http://reposilite.com/ recently
it looks nice
forest pecan
You can actually host a maven repo on github i think?
its shitty but it gets the job done
obtuse gale
public abstract class BaseController<T, S extends JpaRepository<T, Long>> {
private final S repo;
public BaseController(S repo) {
this.repo = repo;
}
@GetMapping
public List<T> getAll() {
return repo.findAll();
}
@GetMapping("/{id}")
public Optional<T> findById(@PathVariable("id") Long id) {
return repo.findById(id);
}
}
@RestController
@RequestMapping("/api/users")
public class UserController extends BaseController<User, UserRepository> {
public UserController(UserRepository repo) {
super(repo);
}
}
Is this the best way to do this ?
obtuse gale
Whats the purpose of DTOs?
obtuse gale
Im looking at this at the minute, and just trying to work out which strategy would be best if I want a User which is just a standard user, and then a StaffMember user which is just a User with more info, and id easily need to be able to promote Users to StaffMembers so idk
https://thorben-janssen.com/complete-guide-inheritance-strategies-jpa-hibernate/
hot hull
How should one approach a decompiling of my own jar which I've temporarily (hopefully) lost source to
I there even any point since it'll be a fucking mess, or should I just rewrite from scratch (was about 25 hours on the current progress)
quiet depot
@hot hull for the best results possible you'll want to use a mix of CFR and Procyon
I recommend running the entire thing through CFR first, and anything that doesn't look quite right, use proycon
It may be tempting to just run the entire thing through proycon, don't do that
cfr in general is a much better decompiler, but both have their strengths and weaknesses, which is why you use them together
and in the future, use git
hot hull
I was going to yes, legit that was what I was doing when the pc shat itself
I'm kind of tempted into just starting from scratch cause there's a few things I wanna approach differently
quiet depot
then do that
hot hull
I even documented the code ;C
quiet depot
should've used git from the start
obtuse gale
hello i need help[
what use https://thorben-janssen.com/complete-guide-inheritance-strategies-jpa-hibernate/
so that I can have a User object as well as a StaffMember object where I can easily promote users to staff and StaffMember is just User with more details
hot hull
huh?
hot hull
latest mc dev sets it as 5.6.1
ew
Tell me the idea and I can help you perhaps 
bruh you seriously gonna copy all my plugins or what
signal tinsel
Ok, so
I've got a broken HP school computer I guess
It doesn't wanna boot
I'm 99% sure the hard drive is broken or corrupt lol
Anything I could do to test, without actually taking out the hard drive
obtuse gale
well not if the CPU is fucked or something lol
obtuse gale
take it to the IT guys if ur at school lol
signal tinsel
Yeah the teacher is calling it
But I'm always the first go-to because I'm better than our it
And everyone knows that lol
gusty fulcrum
Obviously not that good 😉 can you enter the bios?
quiet depot
drop the computer
if the hdd wasn't corrupted before
it will be now
strong magnet will also do the trick
then you can be 100% sure instead of 99% sure
old wyvern
old wyvern
take it to the IT guys if ur at school lol
"Did you try turning it off and on?"
old wyvern
kotlin dsl?
hot hull
No, I misstyped the version
obtuse gale
piggy ur smart do u know what i should use?
quiet depot
I typically opt for recreating the components I need from spring manually, versus just using spring, I may not be the right person to ask
obtuse gale
wdym
obtuse gale
ah
signal tinsel
drop the computer
I asked if I could
prisma wave
Seems like you should be using composition instead of inheritance aj
What extra details do staff members have?
obtuse gale
wdym composition
they have relations with other objects'
as well as some other smaller information (Strings etc)
prisma wave
A StaffMember contains a User, rather than a StaffMember is a User
obtuse gale
hm
oh yeah I guess that makes more sense
how do relations work with REST APIs?
Like how will spring do it by itself
prisma wave
Wdym?
obtuse gale
So say I have like a
@OneToOne
private User user;
what will it show when i get the user and display it
prisma wave
it converts it to JSON iirc
obtuse gale
so it will show the user object? It wont just show the ID or something
prisma wave
yeah
obtuse gale
aight
next question lol
How does one store messages from like a support ticket thing
like do i have a row per message?
bruh
IJ generated the setters/getters differently
old wyvern
wdym?
obtuse gale
oh im just dumb
hot hull
A phat middle finger to plib
[10:05:13 INFO]: > Source: com.comphenix.protocol.injector.netty.ProtocolInjector@37370112
[10:05:13 INFO]: - Identifier: a1b72b20-97e0-476e-8a78-db9c9dcf93a4,
[10:05:13 INFO]: - Message: Players online: 1 - World time: 8:00 PM
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[10:05:13 INFO]: - Identifier: a1b72b20-97e0-476e-8a78-db9c9dcf93a4,
[10:05:13 INFO]: - Message: You have no new mail.
[10:05:13 INFO]: > Source: com.comphenix.protocol.injector.netty.ProtocolInjector@37370112
[10:05:13 INFO]: - Identifier: a1b72b20-97e0-476e-8a78-db9c9dcf93a4,
[10:05:13 INFO]: - Message: [ViaVersion] There is a newer version available: 3.2.1, you're on: 3.2.0
[10:05:19 INFO]: <Frcsty> asd
[10:05:19 INFO]: > Source: com.comphenix.protocol.injector.netty.ProtocolInjector@37370112
[10:05:19 INFO]: - Identifier: a1b72b20-97e0-476e-8a78-db9c9dcf93a4,
[10:05:19 INFO]: - Message: <Frcsty> asd
theyre collapsed
prisma wave
Storing message content?
quiet depot
aj what r u making
obtuse gale
With REST apis is the general idea if you wanna update a field you just redo all the JSON data and send it to the endpoint or would I have multiple endpoints for each bit of data
some system kinda like paypals live chat but a little bit different
but thats not where im up to rn
im still setting up the user system atm
quiet depot
aj u should try making it all from scratch
more fun
unless you care about security or something weird like that
obtuse gale
With REST apis is the general idea if you wanna update a field you just redo all...
im still struggling with the basics of rest apis
prisma wave
Depends what you mean by data
You'd usually have a different endpoint per "entity", which often roughly correlates to jpa entities (afaik)
obtuse gale
aight and then to update say like one field would I have to send the entire lot of json data?
or can I just update one field?
old wyvern
Depends on the type of request
obtuse gale
wdym
old wyvern
Like for a PUT request, you are expected to update the object in its entirety even if only changing a field.
But for a PATCH request, you can just provide a description of the changes to be made
old wyvern
Yea I guess so
steel heart
@quiet depot btw may I ask, is papi3 in need of contributions?
steel heart
okok
hot hull
Is it just me or is plib stupid, I check if the packet is a server packet and it still triggers for when a player sends a message, how does that make sense?
lunar cypress
because there are two packets
client sends packet to server, server sends packet to all other clients
obtuse gale
wait so if
class User{
@MAnyToMany
Set<Ticket>
}
class Ticket{
@ManyToMany
Set<User>
}
If I add a ticket to a user do i then also need to add a user to the ticket object?
or can i just do it to one
prisma wave
you need to update both
winter iron
Why is it that multiverse and essentials teleport break when i have an armor stand as my passenger
can u not teleport with passengers?
obtuse gale
so is this how i have to do it to insert this test data?
All the saving at the bottom is an absolute nightmare
steel heart
@prisma wave kotlin doesn't even have ternary for variable assignment?
steel heart
bruh now I have to mutate my variables
winter iron
Ok, so you cant teleport a player with passengers so how do i get around that
prisma wave
if expressions
steel heart
stupid java
prisma wave
lol
steel heart
Ok, so you cant teleport a player with passengers so how do i get around that
diy :]
get da boat of minecraft
and den travel
stuck harbor
is making plugins in scala a bad idea?
steel heart
its great
steel heart
ok
steel heart
uhm have you looked into multiverse and essential source?
thats weird
unless you set ignoreCancelled to true it should work decenlty
prisma wave
is making plugins in scala a bad idea?
probably not
winter iron
ill try that
prisma wave
apart from the fact that scala is quite a hard language
steel heart
jomboenumset
steel heart
Obviously
stuck harbor
mmm scala looks very nice
steel heart
its juicy
prisma wave
scala is basically kotlin with more functional stuff
stuck harbor
lol
steel heart
Should I re assign my collection field every time and mutate it or clear it and addAll ?
jovial warren
everyone should start with either C or haskell
I can kinda agree with that
not Haskell, but C yeah
stuck harbor
bof C
jovial warren
learning C will teach you about how things work at the low-level
prisma wave
haskell teaches you about monads
stuck harbor
php teaches you about bad design decisions
steel heart
php devs "It's the programmers fault if the code is bad"
stuck harbor
lol
jovial warren
so true haha
I tried learning x86 assembly the other day, now that language is a nightmare
stuck harbor
nah asm x86 is cool
jovial warren
yeah it's nice, I just couldn't quite grasp it
prisma wave
im not sure if teaching low level languages to beginners is a good idea or not
stuck harbor
well it weeds out people who are just there for the money
jovial warren
it avoids a situation like what I'm in, where I want to learn low-level but it's quite difficult for me to understand how memory management and stuff works
stuck harbor
to do low level software, u have to understand the basics of hardware
onyx loom
^
jovial warren
which I somewhat do, but I just couldn't quite understand the instructions I read yesterday
onyx loom
if u have basic cs knowledge then ig it could be good
prisma wave
it avoids a situation like what I'm in, where I want to learn low-level but it's...
but, understanding it would be even harder if you had absolutely no programming knowledge
stuck harbor
learning the low levels first could help avoid sloppy code
prisma wave
or discourage people from learning at all
stuck harbor
if u are trained from day 1 to be careful about memory use and stuff
jovial warren
but, understanding it would be even harder if you had absolutely no programming ...
true
anyone know any decent x86 assembly tutorials btw that don't look like they haven't been updated since the 90's? (not videos, please xD)
prisma wave
learning the low levels first could help avoid sloppy code
i dont have a source for this, but i would guess low level code is usually messier
stuck harbor
mmm well, it depends how good u are
prisma wave
well
most high level languages are designed to be easier
compare that to some of the lengths you have to go to do simple things in low-level langs
so while low-level gives you a much better understanding of how things work (which you can then apply to high-level), i dont think it affects code quality that much
old wyvern
everyone should start with either C or haskell
Haskell only
forest pecan
I actually found that high level programs are actually much slower than lower level programs more than i thought
like much much more slower
old wyvern
C is 🤮
forest pecan
It is
old wyvern
Monads for life
prisma wave
there is 0 reason to use C++ instead of rust
old wyvern
Exactly, we need a go fund me to teach young kids haskell
This world lacks enlightenment
prisma wave
It should be taught from the age of 5
quiet depot
haskell trash
prisma wave
Start with the basics like recursion and the lambda calculus
prisma wave
haskell trash
Do you have a source for that claim?
old wyvern
Haskell is clearly the overlord language here
quiet depot
i found it in the trash
old wyvern
Haskell is older than java, not sure about cpp
old wyvern
because why would it be in the trash if it wasn't trash
You might have been mistaken
prisma wave
I agree
prisma wave
Rust
old wyvern
Thy haskell resides in ze heavens
prisma wave
hmmm
forest pecan
you can't replace all that code
prisma wave
You can
quiet depot
rm -rf /
forest pecan
lmfao
prisma wave
The UN should hire people to convert C++ code to rust
old wyvern
Interop suppourt in a lot of languages already helps a alot
quiet depot
they should start firing people and hiring more c++ -> rust converters
old wyvern
Go can interop with c/cpp right?
old wyvern
Yup, so slowly but surely we can move away from those and have more abstract but efficient languages
For eg: Elara
prisma wave
Unrelated but you can look at a lot of the native function implementations in goland which is cool
Like assembly
old wyvern
😌
prisma wave
For eg: Elara
So efficient!
old wyvern
Ikr
forest pecan
elara is a moon
old wyvern
Unrelated but you can look at a lot of the native function implementations in go...
Wdym?
obtuse gale
^
prisma wave
like if you click certain things in the debugger you can browse the assembly
I think
it looks like assembly
old wyvern
it looks like assembly
O.o
prisma wave
Also unironically haskell's laziness is pretty cool, you can do things like ```haskell
replicateM 5 (putStrLn "hello")
and it works without a lambdanope this throws literally like a huge error
prisma wave
Meanwhile in kotlin you'd need a lambda because it gets eagerly evaluated
old wyvern
Yup, also infinite lists are a thing
obtuse gale
not a stack overflow, just alot of errors
prisma wave
Very fancy
obtuse gale
Im tryna load some test data into my system,this saving method seems really inefficient, am i doing something wrong lol?
obtuse gale
I tried saving one and it was like
something about transient stuff
cant remember exactly lol
forest pecan
nice ticket name
obtuse gale
cheers
bm so are you saying i could like save just the ticket, and because the ticket has a user objefct and a TeamMember object it would save the team member and the user which would then save the service?
object references an unsaved transient instance - save the transient instance before flushing:
this is what it tells me
old wyvern
Show us the def of TeamMember
obtuse gale
looking it up tells me I can add something to my annotations
prisma wave
You probably need to set the cascading settings
obtuse gale
yeah
adding cascade = CascadeType.ALL to the annotations fixed it
Could not write JSON: Infinite recursion (StackOverflowError); 😔
bruh holy shit how wide is this error
look at the size of the lil bar
wait a stack overflows where like a depends on b which depends on a irght?
obtuse gale
I mean my Ticket class has a Set<User> and my USer class has a Set<Ticket> would that be the problem?
prisma wave
probably
half harness
stackoverflow is when the stack overflows
prisma wave
make one or the other transient
prisma wave
stackoverflow is when the stack overflows <:fingerguns:730681133200834592>
yes
pretty much
old wyvern
Theres the transient keyword
obtuse gale
thats a keyword??
old wyvern
😂
obtuse gale
bruh
prisma wave
in kotlin it's @Transient
obtuse gale
er
prisma wave
not sure which you're using
obtuse gale
what if i want it to be serialized .-.
like
if im getting the ticket object i want the set of users
old wyvern
Why do you want both to be serialized?
prisma wave
if you have a cylic reference then you can't serialize both
old wyvern
You can probably have the object turned to some sorr of identifiers for the entities
obtuse gale
but if i have the ticket object then i want it
obtuse gale
tbhI dont even need the ticket object serialized when I get the user
If I only got the ticket ID that would suffice
since 90% of the time i wont even need the tickets themselves
old wyvern
Thats what im saying, spring can probably handle that part for you
obtuse gale
how can I do that
jovial warren
pretty much the only purpose for serialisation is things like file storage afaik
old wyvern
He has a cyclic relationship
obtuse gale
instead of getting the entire ticket object just get the ticket id in the user object
and vice versa
jovial warren
so you have a relational field in the tickets table that points to a user, and then relational fields in the users table that points to tickets?
obtuse gale
ie.
class User{
@ManyToManyh
set<ticket>
}
class Ticket{
@ManytToMany
set><user>
}
response-
user: tickets:["1", "2"]
very messily written lol ^
obtuse gale
so you have a relational field in the tickets table that points to a user, and t...
its a ManyToMany,
jovial warren
exactly what I said isn't that?
obtuse gale
think so lol
so instead of returning the entire ticket object for the user i just want the id, and vice versa
jovial warren
what are you trying to store here?
obtuse gale
tickets, users stuff like that
jovial warren
yeah that's not gonna cut it
jovial warren
what kind of data?
obtuse gale
The users linked to a ticket, the ticket metadata, the staff members assigned to the ticket
jovial warren
right, and what's the purpose of your cyclic reference?
obtuse gale
So that I can get all the users from the ticket, and all the tickets a user has
jovial warren
you can get all the tickets a user has by querying the tickets table and finding all entries where the user ID is the ID of your user in your users table
SELECT COUNT(*) FROM tickets WHERE user_id = some_user_id;
and hwat have a different endpoint for it?
jovial warren
endpoint? what? where does that come into it?
jovial warren
right, we're definitely not on the same page, can you just describe your tables for me please?
obtuse gale
I mean the problem is that when making a request to the endpoint, its responding with the user which is then responding with the ticket which is then responding with the user which is then responding with the ticket and so forth
jovial warren
ah right
obtuse gale
so if instead of responding with the ticket, if i could just respond with the tickets ids i could then make a request to the ticket endpoint and get the tickets from that
jovial warren
what exactly do you want to get here?
obtuse gale
wdym, I just want it to not throw the stackoverflow lol
jovial warren
if you want to get the list of tickets for a specified user ID, just select all the rows in the tickets table that have the given user ID
jovial warren
what has making them transient got to do with this?
obtuse gale
idk bm said something about it
half harness
lol
jovial warren
the best and only way to stop cyclic dependencies is to remove one of the dependencies
obtuse gale
Can I do that while keeping it a @ManyToMAny?
jovial warren
no clue what @ManyToMany does
obtuse gale
Makes it A MnaYToMAny relationship
jovial warren
I kinda gathered that, just gotta google wtf that is
obtuse gale
A many-to-many relationship occurs when multiple records in a table are associated with multiple records in another table.
obtuse gale
yeah
jovial warren
so what's the cyclic dependency here then?
what query do you perform on that endpoint?
obtuse gale
userRepo.findAll()
but even if i just requested one user the same would probably happen
jovial warren
so that's just ```sql
SELECT * FROM users;
which is returning the users table
also, just a side note, I hope you're hashing user's passwords
obtuse gale
im not even that far yet lol
jovial warren
fair
anyway, what columns does user have?
think I can see that actually
is that HashSet you create the list of tickets?
obtuse gale
yeah
jovial warren
ah, gotcha
I see the issue
queries users table, needs to get list of tickets
queries tickets table, needs to get list of users
jovial warren
remove one of the dependencies
obtuse gale
aight
jovial warren
make one of them have no idea that the other exists
I think
tickets need to know who are on them, but does users also need to know they're on a ticket?
I remember doing this I believe
jovial warren
the original Punishments has every punishment refer to a user, and every history entry refer to a user, but the user didn't have any columns for history or punishments, it uses foreign collection fields
foreign collection fields are basically what happens when you query a foreign table for all entries with a specified foreign field matching a specified field in your table
obtuse gale
so basically my best bet is to remove the Hashset from say the User object then make another endpoint to get all the tickets a user has?
and i can do that by querying and getting all the tickets with that user
jovial warren
you could basically have something like this:
tickets - foreign field user_id relating to a user in the users table
users - foreign collection field that basically says "hey tickets, do you have any rows where user_id matches my id?"
no clue if JPA supports foreign collection fields though
prisma wave
it does
jovial warren
yeah I know, but if he doesn't know what queries it's executing internally then he probably shouldn't be using ORM imo
obtuse gale
so how would i do this foreign collection field thing in spring
or should i just make something in the TicketRepo thats like findAllByUsersId
prisma wave
aj what even is the problem here
jovial warren
he has a cyclic dependency
prisma wave
ik
obtuse gale
the problem was that when i was getting the users i was getting the tickets which was getting the users which was getting the tickets
prisma wave
but
jovial warren
users depends on a list of tickets, tickets depends on a list of users
prisma wave
the stackoverflow was caused by json serialization
obtuse gale
cos i was making a request
jovial warren
but he's still going to have that cyclic dependency there @prisma wave
obtuse gale
a ticket can have multiple users
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then a pivot table
prisma wave
but he's still going to have that cyclic dependency there <@!266973575225933824>
that doesn't matter until you try and serialize it
jovial warren
that doesn't matter until you try and serialize it
ah right
prisma wave
but yeah lemmo is probably right
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a many to many relationship is created using a pivot table.
obtuse gale
wont making ti transient just fix it cos then its not getting serialized?
jovial warren
ah, that's what you mean
obtuse gale
So instead of giving me the whole object it would just give me theID?
jovial warren
wont making ti transient just fix it cos then its not getting serialized?
probably, but it's not going to fix the core issue
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Your pivot table here would be
user_id ticket_id
with a primary key on user_id and ticket_id combined
prisma wave
wont making ti transient just fix it cos then its not getting serialized?
well yes
jovial warren
@JoinColumn?
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You should start with designing your database and entities
obtuse gale
`@JoinColumn`?
what
jovial warren
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You should probably do more research into knowing actual databases and sql
obtuse gale
i should
prisma wave
Your pivot table here would be
``user_id
ticket_id``
with a primary key on user_...
doesnt hibernate do that automatically?
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yes
prisma wave
probably, but it's not going to fix the core issue
cylic dependencies in memory are fine
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if you set it up correctly it does
prisma wave
the problems only start when you try to serialize
obtuse gale
ok so can i just make one of them transient and go about my day?
obtuse gale
or is that bad practise or whatever
prisma wave
idk
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haven't followed the chat to know what you guys were talking about so idk either lmao.
jovial warren
leaving that cyclic dependency in there is likely to cause you problems later
prisma wave
what problems?
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why do you even have a cyclic dependency
obtuse gale
ticket has users users has tickets
jovial warren
users table has a list of ticket ids
tickets table has a list of user ids
obtuse gale
but when i request the user it requests the tickets, which then in turn requests the users etc etc
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you always have one given to you already
does hibernate always retrieve every relationship?
probably not right
you should probably make it a lazy relationship or something like that
and then eager load it yourself whenever you know you need it
obtuse gale
how does one make it lazy with sprign lol
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jovial warren
if you use findAll, it performs a lookup for all the users, and then hibernate goes "right, now I need all the tickets", so it loads all the tickets, which then references a list of users, so hibernate goes "right, now I need all these users"
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prisma wave
hibernate is lazy by default afaik
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lmfao
jovial warren
funny how we both found the same article and both pasted it at the exact same time lol
I just searched "hibernate lazy relationship"
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lmao
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you can evade my hammer for now..
;p
wish I could have hibernate over eloquent
hate making migrations
onyx loom
wish i could hibernate forever
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same
forest pecan
ik a trick to do that
onyx loom
pls share
jovial warren
wish I could have hibernate over eloquent
that's a PHP ORM isn't it
funny how the most widely used programming languages are the ones that are easy to learn and easy to just throw together and have work (JavaScript, Python, PHP, etc.)
I mean, it makes sense because human beings are lazy bastards lol
obtuse gale
making it lazy didnt help anything
prisma wave
making it lazy isnt gonna fix the stackoverflow i dont think
because jackson will try and lookup the tickets
obtuse gale
mm
obtuse gale
aight lol
distant sun
funny how the most widely used programming languages are the ones that are easy ...
php 🤢
obtuse gale
in both or just one
old wyvern
One
prisma wave
elara orm
old wyvern
Elorm
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bootiful
jovial warren
would ORM even work properly in Elara?
distant sun
I like the font lemmo
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why wouldn't it
old wyvern
^
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as long as it can connect to a database
jovial warren
I thought object-relational mapping would only really work with proper OOP
old wyvern
Elara is multi paradigmn
obtuse gale
making it transient just sets it to null is there a way to make it so that field doesnt exist at all lol or am i asking too much
prisma wave
struct-relational mapping
old wyvern
XD
SRM
Elara data is just persistent 😌 no need of orms
You rerun and start in the left state
😂
jovial warren
does Elara have the concept of inheritance and/or injection?
trying to think how you would actually do this lol
old wyvern
Inheritance not in the same sense
prisma wave
does Elara have the concept of inheritance and/or injection?
no and no
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you wouldn't need inheritance or injection for it though
obtuse gale
ive gotta make both transient because otherwise when i request the ticket it gives the overflow
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you only really need a struct
old wyvern
We rather copy all fields to the other struct when we say "inherit"
Because our typing doesnt obey inheritance
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there's different types of ORMs
old wyvern
ANYthing that has equivalrnt contract of A, IS A. Structural typing
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you have Active Record ORMs and Data Mapping ORMs
where data mapping wouldn't really require much as all you have are just plain data structures
jovial warren
so what? something like this? ```
struct Person {
mut String name
mut int age
}
// execute a raw SQL query and transform the results to an object?
mut 🤢
jovial warren
well you want them mutable so you can update them and then shove the object back in the DB when you're finished
old wyvern
ew
old wyvern
You make a new one
jovial warren
ah that's how you want to do it
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yeah
for example active record wouldn't work
and is ugly anyway in every language imo
jovial warren
how you going to connect to databases? through C or Go or something like that?
jovial warren
where is the stdlib btw?
old wyvern
Check the organization
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but why would you use Elara when you can use Jaquar
old wyvern
Theres also a few natively implemented, but currently its just for testing purposes
jovial warren
wonder what I could add to this 🤔
prisma wave
some guy contributed a native get request function
but
eventually id rather leave the native stuff to java
old wyvern
Mhm
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you should work on a good package system
jovial warren
package system?
jovial warren
ah a package manager
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not only the manager
jovial warren
a full build system
old wyvern
ELON
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but it was nice talking I really should get back to work
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alrighty
jovial warren
cya
prisma wave
adios
old wyvern
Ciao
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gotta do some more php and js 🤢
prisma wave
but yeah gradle is nice and all, but having to lookup a repo, dependency, and possibly other settings is a pain compared to elara install discord.elr