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onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 12:47 AM

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urs is the repost 🥲

distant sun Jan 10, 2021, 1:14 AM

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why does he looks like he's about to judge every line I write lol

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surreal quarry Jan 10, 2021, 1:14 AM

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because he is

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 1:14 AM

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gaby obsessed with pikachu

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looks cool tho lol

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 1:52 AM

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO_ _

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static zealot Jan 10, 2021, 1:52 AM

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what was that?

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 1:53 AM

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github repo for old FAWE

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its deleted/hidden/private now

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 2:26 AM

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How does spigot... "give" its code to the plugins?

surreal quarry Jan 10, 2021, 2:27 AM

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wdym?

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like how come you can use the methods

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 2:28 AM

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its just an api

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application programming interface 🌝

ocean quartz Jan 10, 2021, 2:31 AM

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programming*

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 2:32 AM

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is it

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i always forget 🌝

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 2:38 AM

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but how

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does it have a plugins folder

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and give the code to it?

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like, how would I do it? (simply put, as I'm not actually going to)

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 2:40 AM

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i am so confused as to what ur asking now

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 2:40 AM

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lol

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basically

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in build.gradle I have things like compileOnly

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but how does it get the code?!

surreal quarry Jan 10, 2021, 2:41 AM

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its available at runtime

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 2:41 AM

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but hOw

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 2:41 AM

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still confused.

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 2:42 AM

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offtopic- but how does sublime text look so... ew

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half harness Jan 10, 2021, 2:42 AM

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onyx loom still confused.

when I do compileOnly where does it get the code from runtime

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 2:42 AM

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what code

surreal quarry Jan 10, 2021, 2:42 AM

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think of a plugin as an addon to the server. its in the same java runtime environment (not sure if thats the right technical term but thats how i think of it) and so just like you have access to the code of another plugin on the server through its api, you have access to to the spigot code through spigots api

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 2:43 AM

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o

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interesting

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 2:43 AM

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onyx loom what code

like worldedit api, spigot api, etc

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this is better

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is sublime text good?

surreal quarry Jan 10, 2021, 2:44 AM

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yes

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 2:44 AM

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ok

ocean quartz Jan 10, 2021, 2:44 AM

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Vscode > sublime

surreal quarry Jan 10, 2021, 2:44 AM

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vscode is more of an ide feel

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imo

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 2:44 AM

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but sublime takes 2 seconds to open up and literally 1 second to install

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I did not know an app could install so quickly

ocean quartz Jan 10, 2021, 2:46 AM

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Lmao speed

📎 7FryXaDfFe.mp4

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 2:47 AM

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wtf its almost 3am

ocean quartz Jan 10, 2021, 2:47 AM

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Ikr

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 2:47 AM

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ok well uh

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bed time for me 🌝

surreal quarry Jan 10, 2021, 2:47 AM

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i feel like for just a text editor to edit like single files, sublime is better

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 2:47 AM

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gn

ocean quartz Jan 10, 2021, 2:47 AM

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surreal quarry i feel like for just a text editor to edit like single files, sublime is better

There is no difference, it's a text editor lol
Vscode just has nicer plugins imo plus looks better

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Gn kali

surreal quarry Jan 10, 2021, 2:48 AM

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yea i guess its just personal preference

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but vscode is definitely good

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i use it for web stuff

quiet depot Jan 10, 2021, 3:32 AM

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sublime is faster then vscode

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nothing graphical beats sublime in speed

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 6:25 AM

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Hello

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I have a question

compact perchBOT Jan 10, 2021, 6:25 AM

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There is no time to wait! Ask your question @obtuse gale!

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 6:26 AM

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BRUH

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I have a question

compact perchBOT Jan 10, 2021, 6:26 AM

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There is no time to wait! Ask your question @obtuse gale!

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 6:26 AM

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I have a question

compact perchBOT Jan 10, 2021, 6:26 AM

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There is no time to wait! Ask your question @obtuse gale!

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 6:26 AM

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XD

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So, how do config files supply stuff to the plugin?

regal gale Jan 10, 2021, 6:39 AM

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What?

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 6:47 AM

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I mean, if I want to give a item to a player (/give sender item) and the item should be specified in the config, like (Item name: any_item_name), how will the plugin extract "any_item_name" to use it in a command so it can run /give sender any_item_name?

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I'm just a beginner please spare me

hot hull Jan 10, 2021, 7:11 AM

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You'd just input your path and retrieve the data

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 7:14 AM

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🤯

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 9:27 AM

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half harness when I do compileOnly where does it get the code from runtime

Basically, gradle uses the jar's classes but doesn't shade them

Then at runtime, it just searches the classpath for all of the classes

steel heart Jan 10, 2021, 9:39 AM

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BM can I relocate a package that is non existent so only the imports within my existing classes change

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 9:41 AM

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Presumably

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But why

steel heart Jan 10, 2021, 9:43 AM

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Runtime dependencies

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 9:43 AM

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Oh cool, I know a library for that if you're interested

hot hull Jan 10, 2021, 9:44 AM

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kek

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 9:44 AM

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Jokes aside the problem there is that you need to relocate the jar too

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Not just your imports

steel heart Jan 10, 2021, 10:00 AM

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I’m using hdl

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https://github.com/heretere/hdl

GitHub

heretere/hdl

Heretere's Dependency Loader. Contribute to heretere/hdl development by creating an account on GitHub.

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So it’s Gucci

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 10:04 AM

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Ew, no transitive dependency support

steel heart Jan 10, 2021, 10:08 AM

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Yeah I guess

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Can you recommend something that supports it then ?

hot hull Jan 10, 2021, 10:09 AM

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PDM fingerguns

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If it does thonking

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 10:28 AM

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It does

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Or it tries to at least

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Also ew, annotations

high violet Jan 10, 2021, 10:30 AM

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Mh. What's the reason Runtime Dependencies are better than actually shading them inside the jar?

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If even there is one

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I mean, i took time to learn Maven n shit and now you guys are all using runtime dependency injection

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what the heck

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 10:31 AM

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reduces jar size mostly

high violet Jan 10, 2021, 10:33 AM

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understood

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that's all?

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 10:34 AM

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pretty much

hot hull Jan 10, 2021, 10:34 AM

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basically

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 10:34 AM

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Spigot and things have a jar size limit

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And if you're uploading every time it's nice to have a smaller jar

steel heart Jan 10, 2021, 10:49 AM

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Consider shading in every jdk and spigot version

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Or at least as runtime dep

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;:

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)

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 10:50 AM

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Good idea

steel heart Jan 10, 2021, 10:50 AM

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Hmm do you know anything that is bigger?

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 10:54 AM

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bigger than the jdk?

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Probably not much

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Maybe every spring project

regal gale Jan 10, 2021, 10:56 AM

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@prisma wave in case you haven't read this, enjoy :)

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#off-topic message

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 10:58 AM

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WOW

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What is this?1?1

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 1:13 PM

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Weird random ghost ping?

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 2:18 PM

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If i want an event to fire before another, i make its priority low right?

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 2:19 PM

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you mean an EventHandler?

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 2:20 PM

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err

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yes

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sorry

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i want event A before event B

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so i set event A to low?

quiet depot Jan 10, 2021, 2:21 PM

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yes

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d;spigot eventpriority%lowest

ruby craterBOT Jan 10, 2021, 2:21 PM

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org.bukkit.event.EventPriority%LOWEST

public static final EventPriority LOWEST```

Description:

Event call is of very low importance and should be ran first, to allow other plugins to further customise the outcome

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Pog

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thanks

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 3:18 PM

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clash of code anyone?

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 3:18 PM

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i can do a quick one

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 3:18 PM

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sure

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 3:18 PM

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it is 2.20am

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 3:19 PM

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is it

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 3:19 PM

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indeed

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 3:19 PM

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i see

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well

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https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1538749235102b80ddbc3c1a2a62a18adabfba5

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im sure you can do one

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or not 😦

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 3:21 PM

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er

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yes

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one sec

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 3:21 PM

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k

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alright

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looks like it's just us lol

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 3:22 PM

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welp

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im fucked

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 3:22 PM

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oh this one looks like it sucks

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 3:22 PM

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it does

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 3:22 PM

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ima try it

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i think i have an idea

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 3:23 PM

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wait is this all in one line?

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00000 AAAAA xxxxx

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 3:23 PM

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yeah

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o nice

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 3:26 PM

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:))

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 3:27 PM

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i cba to try and do this

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i could switch to kotlin

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but that would be cheating

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another?

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 3:28 PM

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yeah ok

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What language were u doing it in?

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fun main(args : Array<String>) {
    val input = Scanner(System.`in`)
    for (i in 0 until 5) {
        val line = input.nextLine()
        val splitLine = line.split(" ")
        val left = splitLine[1]
        val right = splitLine[2]
        val numbers = splitLine[0]
        val sb = StringBuilder()
        var index = 0
        numbers.toCharArray().forEach {
            if(it == '0') sb.append(left.toCharArray()[index])
            else sb.append(right.toCharArray()[index])
            index += 1
        }
        println(sb.toString())
    }
}```

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 3:28 PM

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F#

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or trying to

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 3:28 PM

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o

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actually imma sleep

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 3:29 PM

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ok

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gn

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ima try finish this off

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yay got it working

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open System


for i in 0 .. 5 - 1 do
    let LINE = Console.In.ReadLine()
    let parts = LINE.Split [| ' ' |]
    let (check, a, b) = (parts.[0], parts.[1], parts.[2])

    let extract i c = string (if c = '0' then a.[i] else b.[i])

    Seq.mapi extract check
        |> String.concat ""
        |> printfn "%s"

    ()

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hot

stuck harbor Jan 10, 2021, 3:35 PM

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nice

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 3:35 PM

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Hmm, is there some sort of edit distance between n words, like more than 2

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minimum edit distance

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 3:36 PM

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?

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 3:36 PM

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Levenshtein only works only when comparing 2 right?

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 3:36 PM

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Oh right yeah

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 3:36 PM

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Or is there some form of addition possible

distant sun Jan 10, 2021, 3:36 PM

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coc?

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 3:37 PM

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Just about to go out lol

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Layer

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Later*

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@old wyvern sounds like it would be undefined

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What's the distance between "hello", "hi" and "example"?

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 3:39 PM

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hmm good point

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Im looking at something like this
ab aa ba ba

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same length strings

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minimum changes to make them all equal

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 3:41 PM

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Hmm

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You could pick 1 as a base and then sum all of the other's distances

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 3:42 PM

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And take the minimum of those?

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Might work I guess altho that may take too much time, ill give it a shot

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 4:03 PM

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in kotlin, if i want a constant should i make it in companion object or top level

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 4:04 PM

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companion object

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 4:04 PM

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any specific reasons why

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 4:04 PM

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good question

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 4:05 PM

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It kinda depends

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Use companion object if you want it namespaced to the class

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Otherwise use a constant

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 4:06 PM

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thats what i was thinking

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constant it is

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looks nice as top level constant

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 4:07 PM

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top level*

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Yeah

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 4:07 PM

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What seemed to work was getting the most frequent string in the collection and using that to get distance and sum

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 4:07 PM

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That works I guess

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Also didnt have to use levenshtein, checking differences in the character seemed to give the right answer

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Now im not sure if the question was wrong xD

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fun main(args: Array<String>) {
    val str = readLine()!!
    val k = readLine()!!.toInt()
    val size = str.length / k
    val sp = str.windowed(size,size)
    val selM = sp.groupingBy { it }.eachCount().maxBy { it.value }!!.key
    val res = sp.map { distance(selM, it) }.sum()
    println(res)
}


fun distance(a: CharSequence, b: CharSequence): Int {
    var d = 0
    for ((index,c) in a.withIndex()) {
        if (c != b[index])d++
    }
    return d
}```
this is what worked

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 4:09 PM

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Horrible

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But nice 👍

hot hull Jan 10, 2021, 4:10 PM

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hideous indeed

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 4:10 PM

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xD

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What

ebon hearth Jan 10, 2021, 4:20 PM

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oh sorry for my bad english i can prepare better to read

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wait a sec

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 4:20 PM

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Are you taking about skript by any chance?

ebon hearth Jan 10, 2021, 4:20 PM

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yes

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 4:20 PM

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👀

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 4:20 PM

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#general-plugins 🙂

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 4:20 PM

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lol

ebon hearth Jan 10, 2021, 4:20 PM

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oh okay

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:01 PM

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any way I can force a delayed task to run before the server shuts?
BukkitScheduler#getPendingTasks allows you to find the ids of pending tasks but how would I run a task from it's id?

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:06 PM

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shadow wasp any way I can force a delayed task to run before the server shuts? BukkitSchedul...

If it's your own plugin then you can make a Map<Integer, Runnable> and whenever you make a BukkitTask you can just do Map#add(taskId, Runnable)

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unless

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it's possible to get a runnable from task id

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:06 PM

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figured that might be the only way

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that's I'm wondering

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I just don't want to have to store a lot of tasks that way if most of the time it won't be accessed

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:07 PM

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well it won't really matter ;-;

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not like its gonna bring ur tps to 1

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:07 PM

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idk what version you're on but pendingTasks returns a List<BukkitTask> for me

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:08 PM

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but

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you can't run that task

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you can only do things like check if async or get the id

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:08 PM

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hmm true

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you could probably use reflection to get the underlying Runnable

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but that's hacky

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:08 PM

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huh?

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:09 PM

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BukkitTask is eventually just a wrapper of a Runnable

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 5:09 PM

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Hmmm thonking

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xD

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 5:09 PM

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BukkitRunnable cct

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 5:09 PM

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Copy pasta

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:09 PM

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docs are wrong but you can see the return type is correct

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:09 PM

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"asynch"

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:10 PM

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prisma wave BukkitTask is eventually just a wrapper of a Runnable

Are you thinking of BukkitRunnable?

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 5:10 PM

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xD

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:10 PM

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BukkitTask is a separate interface

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:11 PM

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No, I meant BukkitTask - but having looked at the implementations it's not that simple for the repeating / async ones

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:11 PM

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hm

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:11 PM

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I'd imagine there would be a hacky way of getting the runnable from the task id but I don't know where to look

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:11 PM

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hacky

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 5:12 PM

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Yea

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:12 PM

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thats what bm said

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 5:12 PM

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You can kinda use reflection to get the runnable

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/browse/src/main/java/org/bukkit/craftbukkit/scheduler/CraftTask.java?at=6103339c08455f72e25a9a10f87bbe5fa4a35f3a

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 5:12 PM

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Hjallo

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:12 PM

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;-;

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hi

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:12 PM

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yeah CraftTask just wraps it

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 5:12 PM

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actually wait no

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:12 PM

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CraftAsyncTask and CraftFuture are more complex

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nvm

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:13 PM

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what is the implementation of BukkitScheduler

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:13 PM

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they all extend CraftTask 🤣

errant geyser Jan 10, 2021, 5:13 PM

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BM what's that extension function u like to use for events?

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 5:13 PM

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oof

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:13 PM

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CraftScheduler

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:13 PM

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errant geyser BM what's that extension function u like to use for events?

hm?

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you mean like fun Event.handle()?

errant geyser Jan 10, 2021, 5:13 PM

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Yeah

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 5:14 PM

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anyname katsu

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Thats equvalent to a function that takes the event as argument

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Unless you meant something else?

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@EventHandler
fun PlayerJoinEvent.handle() {

}

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:15 PM

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what is the current state of kotlin for spigot plugins? I barely see it used

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:15 PM

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let handle(PlayerJoinEvent event)

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You're not looking in the right places

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I use it whenever I can, so do a lot of people here

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:17 PM

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When making plugins for myself I love using it because it looks so much better and it's faster to write, but unfortunately if i'm making plugins for someone else they usually want java

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Only issue would be filesize afaik

errant geyser Jan 10, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Kotlin is epik

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Theres no other reason to be specific

errant geyser Jan 10, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Not as epik as Elara though

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Ask them why they want java

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:18 PM

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I think it's because they want other developers to be able to work with the source

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 5:18 PM

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Ah, if their team mostly uses java then thats fair

errant geyser Jan 10, 2021, 5:18 PM

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Kotlin isn't that hard to understand

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:18 PM

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you overestimate the average spigot developer's intelligence

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:18 PM

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but i assume if they want changes down the line

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lol

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 5:19 PM

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Provide low cost/ free fixes

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Ofc do keep a limit

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:19 PM

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a small price to pay for kotlin

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:20 PM

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i already do, current client has a very confusing team

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:20 PM

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prisma wave you overestimate the average spigot developer's intelligence

kotlin: suffering from success 😔

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:20 PM

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they want a large plugin, but are getting different developers to make separate plugins with the idea of merging them once they are all finished

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:20 PM

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😔

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:20 PM

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shadow wasp they want a large plugin, but are getting different developers to make separate ...

god why are people like this

errant geyser Jan 10, 2021, 5:20 PM

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shadow wasp they want a large plugin, but are getting different developers to make separate ...

That sounds like a horrible idea

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:20 PM

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lol

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:20 PM

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with no core and no central utilities, I don't know how it's going to work

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someone is going to have a painful job

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:21 PM

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that's just...

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:21 PM

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I have no access to any one elses code either

errant geyser Jan 10, 2021, 5:21 PM

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jeez

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:21 PM

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i don't understand why you'd want to have everything in 1 plugin?

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there's no benefit to it

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:22 PM

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well I assume that's how it's going to work, because I'm working on 1 half of a gui, and another developer is working on the other half of the very same gui

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so they can't be separate plugins

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:22 PM

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wtf

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:22 PM

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honestly, not a clue

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:22 PM

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what the

errant geyser Jan 10, 2021, 5:23 PM

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what the kek

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Someone needs to get slapped

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:23 PM

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i hate it here

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:23 PM

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I don't think anyone has heard of github or any source control tool

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:23 PM

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lol

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:23 PM

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of course they havent lmao

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:23 PM

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just work separately and then someone gets the job of putting them together

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:23 PM

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🤔

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:23 PM

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manual merging

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:23 PM

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🥲

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:23 PM

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i feel so sorry for whoever has to do that

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:23 PM

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i'm making sure that's not me

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:24 PM

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🤣

errant geyser Jan 10, 2021, 5:24 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/death-gif-4488630

Tenor

dying

▶ Play video

surreal quarry Jan 10, 2021, 5:24 PM

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wtf am i reading

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why would someone do that

errant geyser Jan 10, 2021, 5:24 PM

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errant geyser https://tenor.com/view/death-gif-4488630

The person that has to put it together ^

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:24 PM

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so, what's best

using reflection to get the pending tasks and running them
storing block + position info in either a hashmap or db which will get queried before the server shuts down

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:25 PM

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the first is less effort in the long term

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but it's hacky

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:25 PM

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I have a bunch of tasks that change the type of a block after a certain amount of time

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can the first be done without reflection?

errant geyser Jan 10, 2021, 5:26 PM

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Is Gaby being paid for that status or what

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:26 PM

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thats his

errant geyser Jan 10, 2021, 5:26 PM

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ah

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Makes more sense

surreal quarry Jan 10, 2021, 5:26 PM

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lmao

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:27 PM

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shadow wasp can the first be done without reflection?

with NMS yes

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i think anyway

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:30 PM

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((CraftTask)Bukkit.getScheduler().getPendingTasks().get(0)).run();

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surely it's not this simple

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:30 PM

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lol

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:30 PM

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try it

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:30 PM

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what the frick

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:30 PM

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im pretty sure that will work

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:30 PM

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my windows has basically crashed

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:30 PM

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if it is, why isn't it a part of the spigot api?

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:30 PM

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why can i access everything but i cant open the start menu or file explorer??????????????

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:30 PM

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possibly an oversight

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:30 PM

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windows bad lol

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:30 PM

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but also because the api usually only provides the interfaces

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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shut the fuck up

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🥲

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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the scheduler implementation is part of craftbukkit

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because it's pretty closely tied to the server

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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onyx loom why can i access everything but i cant open the start menu or file explorer?????...

restart computer :))

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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no

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cba

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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is there a task bar

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at bottom

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or is it blank

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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upgrade your kernel without restarting OH WAIT you can't

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Is it possible to return a value for placeholder request which comes from an async database call
i dont think it is
Im tryna grab some database data and return it as placeholder

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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nope

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cache it

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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😦

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:32 PM

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@onyx loom is there a task bar at bottom
ok then ;-;

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:32 PM

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database calls in placeholders, very bad

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 5:32 PM

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yeyeye

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i shall cache the data

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:32 PM

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my solution is to restart dkim

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but im not gonna 🥲

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:32 PM

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classic windows

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:32 PM

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bruh this is so weird tho

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im not even doing anything

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literally windows has just shit itself

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:32 PM

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prisma wave classic windows

🙂

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:33 PM

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time to switch to linux!

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:33 PM

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good idea!

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:33 PM

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no.

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:33 PM

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all the coolest people use linux

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me, piggy, james, etc

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:33 PM

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guess im not cool

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:33 PM

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onyx loom my solution is to restart dkim

answer

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my

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question

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please

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:33 PM

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iwanio too iirc

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:33 PM

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why

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:33 PM

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;-;

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fInE

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:33 PM

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BRUH

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i cant even print screen

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LOL

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:33 PM

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😐

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try killing explorer and reopening

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:34 PM

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😐

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:34 PM

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😐

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:34 PM

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linux_mint

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use_arch_linux

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archlinux

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:34 PM

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is there a task bar

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:34 PM

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DKIM

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my solution is TO RESTART

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 5:34 PM

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prisma wave cache it

so i should just make a runnable every so often to update a map or smth

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:35 PM

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onyx loom my solution is TO RESTART

then RESTART

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:35 PM

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no

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i only need file explorer so i can do my homework

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but i guess thats off the table now 🥲

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:35 PM

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🙄

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i said to try restarting file explorer

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but u dont want to listen 😭

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:36 PM

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ah yes let me restart a process that isnt even running

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great idea!

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:36 PM

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is there a task bar

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at the bottom

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:36 PM

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😐

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:36 PM

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also open up task manager

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:36 PM

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i can access task manager

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its not there

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:36 PM

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okay

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go to details

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:36 PM

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😐

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:36 PM

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is there explorer?

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if not

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then do winkey + r then put explorer

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i think

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:37 PM

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get a usb stick, download "Manjaro KDE", flash to the usb, and then boot into that

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then double click "Install Manjaro"

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:37 PM

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great idea bm

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:37 PM

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then wipe your windows partitions

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:37 PM

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🙄

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then do winkey + r then put explorer

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:37 PM

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except for the fact that i dont have a usb stick 🙃

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:37 PM

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then do winkey + r then put explorer

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bgsaiudhsaiudhsa

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 5:37 PM

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🙄

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dvd?

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 5:37 PM

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ur solutions were already tried before u even said lol

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 5:37 PM

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onyx loom ur solutions were already tried before u even said lol

THEN SAYY

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not IGnORE

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😐

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 5:51 PM

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i mean if you have a second drive could always install to that too

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can confirm by the way, it did work, so that was easy

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 6:06 PM

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nice

ocean quartz Jan 10, 2021, 6:18 PM

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📎 Eg2AgvlU4AQ5Qwh.png

weary epoch Jan 10, 2021, 6:18 PM

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bruh

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what is that

ocean quartz Jan 10, 2021, 6:18 PM

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It works

weary epoch Jan 10, 2021, 6:19 PM

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mom can we get working code

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no we have working code at home

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 6:19 PM

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what is home

weary epoch Jan 10, 2021, 6:19 PM

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the working code at home

5=6

weary epoch Jan 10, 2021, 6:20 PM

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ocean quartz

thats funny tho

shadow wasp Jan 10, 2021, 6:20 PM

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half harness what is home

~

weary epoch Jan 10, 2021, 6:22 PM

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half harness what is home

the joke here is that he is referring as if he is homeless, this is a comically funny "sad joke" and is enjoyed by many

ocean quartz Jan 10, 2021, 6:22 PM

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I legit never know if his questions are joking or not lmao

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 6:22 PM

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uh

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ok

weary epoch Jan 10, 2021, 6:22 PM

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whos

ocean quartz Jan 10, 2021, 6:22 PM

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Dkim's

weary epoch Jan 10, 2021, 6:23 PM

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oh

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 6:23 PM

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😐

distant sun Jan 10, 2021, 6:25 PM

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📎 facebook_1610303128094_6754100851379157477.jpg

ocean quartz Jan 10, 2021, 6:27 PM

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📎 unknown.png

distant sun Jan 10, 2021, 6:30 PM

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-300kb/s

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 6:38 PM

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cursed

hot hull Jan 10, 2021, 6:38 PM

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That code is making me want to go down the suislide

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 6:42 PM

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🥲

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 6:59 PM

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@lunar cypress would you say this is a good resource for learning language theory?
https://github.com/steshaw/plt

Specifically this paper https://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/staff/sjt/TTFP/ttfp.pdf

GitHub

steshaw/plt

λΠ Programming Language Theory. Contribute to steshaw/plt development by creating an account on GitHub.

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it's pretty complex so far but I think i understand the first few pages lol

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📎 unknown.png

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yeah nevermind

hot hull Jan 10, 2021, 7:00 PM

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The fuck is that

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 7:00 PM

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XD

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 7:01 PM

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i have no idea

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im just googling all of the symbols

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∨ this is like an and gate i think

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¬ is like ! in terms of inverting

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ok so the first 2 make sense

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 7:03 PM

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this mans solving the unknown questions of the universe rn

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 7:03 PM

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the first is like A & !A, second is !!A = A

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Lmao

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Doubt

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 7:12 PM

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I was thrown into all of this in my first week of uni 🥶

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So the backwards E means "there exists"

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The others you've figured out correctly

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And => is an implication, meaning if the left is true the right must be true

frigid badge Jan 10, 2021, 7:14 PM

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yoo type theory and functional programming

hot hull Jan 10, 2021, 7:14 PM

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Any reason why it's such dumb symbols?

frigid badge Jan 10, 2021, 7:14 PM

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I'm reading that

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lmao

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 7:15 PM

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And to answer the question I don't know that particular paper/repo but it looks good to me

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wow I'm finally back at my PC again this feels unreal

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 7:29 PM

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lunar cypress And => is an implication, meaning if the left is true the right must be true

Yeah I got that one

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Backwards E is a bit weird

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But I suppose that makes sense

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What about the upside down A?

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 7:30 PM

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That means "for each"

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We call them "quantifiers" although I don't know if that is the correct term for english

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The relationship between the two is a bit like the one between and and or

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ah yeah they're called quantifiers in english too

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oh I just noticed you confused "and" and "or" earlier

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v is or

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 7:43 PM

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oh yeah it is my bad

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 7:44 PM

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Bruh I had to study that shit in philosophy in high school

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02cry

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 7:44 PM

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¬∀x.¬P(x) ⇒ ∃x.P(x)
so what does the . mean?

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i assume P(x) just means a function call?

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 7:44 PM

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prisma wave `¬∀x.¬P(x) ⇒ ∃x.P(x)` so what does the `.` mean?

any character

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🌝

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 7:45 PM

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thonk

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 7:45 PM

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I assume the dot is just used to separate the quantifier expression from the thing it's quantifying

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We use a colon for that but I've heard there are different ways

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 7:46 PM

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Right

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What's this called so I know what to google? Logic expressions?

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 7:46 PM

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And yeah you can think of P(x) as a function call, or depending on the context just a paramaterised expression that was introduced earlier

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 7:46 PM

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Okay

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 7:46 PM

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which is the same in a sense

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again don't know the english term but translating directly from german gives me predicate logic

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 7:47 PM

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"First Order Logic" is the first thing that came up

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 7:47 PM

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seems like that's about right

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 7:47 PM

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I'll look into that a bit

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yeah

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So ¬∀ is "not for each"?

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that doesn't really make much sense

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 7:48 PM

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It does

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It means there exists at least one case where the condition is not true

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Ohh yeah

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 7:48 PM

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There you have the connection to the other quantifier

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 7:48 PM

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so it's like !allMatch

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I see

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 7:49 PM

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Yeah, allMatch and anyMatch are exactly that

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bcs !allMatch test <=> anyMatch !test

shrewd owl Jan 10, 2021, 7:49 PM

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Where can i find people that can make plugins for free

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 7:50 PM

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#794429923698802708

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 7:50 PM

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So the whole thing would read as something like ```
If there is at least 1 x where P(x) is not true, it is implied that there exists an x where P(x) is true

Is that correct?

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im not sure the logic there makes sense so maybe it isn't

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 7:52 PM

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no, it's if P(x) is not *not* true for each x, then there exists an x where P(x) is true

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 7:52 PM

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Oh lol

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so it's just common sense

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 7:53 PM

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yeah, it's one of the fundamental transformations you can make

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It's not just an implication, it's an equivalence even

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meaning it also goes the other way around

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 7:53 PM

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yeah

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LMAO it explains it right underneath

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which can be given the gloss
If it is contradictory for no object x to have the property P(x),
then there is an object x with the property P(x)

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okay

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well

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That makes sense

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and the other 2 are kind of the same thing

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 7:55 PM

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tbt my first algebra assignment

📎 unknown.png

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 7:56 PM

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handwriting reveal

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i rate that handwriting a 4/10

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 7:56 PM

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3/10

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 7:57 PM

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Interesting

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Although it seems strange to have such detailed definitions for things that are essentially common sense

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 7:57 PM

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come on it's not that bad

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 7:57 PM

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🥲

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 7:57 PM

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then again didn't someone write a 300 paper proving 1 + 1 = 2?

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 7:57 PM

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Yea, for us we had a tilda instead of the dash thing tho

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 7:57 PM

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I saw someone do it in Rust's type system lmao

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 7:57 PM

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~A

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 7:58 PM

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prisma wave then again didn't someone write a 300 paper proving 1 + 1 = 2?

how

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 7:58 PM

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well depends on what you work with as your ground material

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 7:58 PM

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Start with the premise that 1 + 1 ≠ 2 and work your way out to disprove that instead

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 7:59 PM

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same thing, the important bit is what you start with

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 7:59 PM

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📎 500px-Principia_Mathematica_54-43.png

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 8:00 PM

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yeah they redefined addition lol

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and a lot of other axioms

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 8:00 PM

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turns out there is a lot of different ways to define and derive things in maths

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which reminds me, I'm procrastinating the assignment that's due tomorrow 🥲

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 8:03 PM

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classic

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this paper is pretty interesting

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it almost makes sense 🥲

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 8:04 PM

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was the predicate logic fundamental thing part of it?

hot hull Jan 10, 2021, 8:04 PM

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No it doesn't

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 8:04 PM

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I'm not sure

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in the next page it said why that principle is flawed lol

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so I think that was just the prerequisites

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 8:05 PM

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lol

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 8:05 PM

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The problem with the principle is that it asserts the existence of an object without giving any indication of what the object is. It is a non-constructive method of proof, in other words.

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 8:05 PM

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Oh, yes

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That is actually a problem theoretically

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because it allows you to construct paradox situations

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I'm relieved, I thought it was something else, then my world would have crumbled lol

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 8:06 PM

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haha

hot hull Jan 10, 2021, 8:07 PM

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May I ask what use would you get by learning this?

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 8:07 PM

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any examples of a paradox? i can understand why but i can't really think of any examples

hot hull Jan 10, 2021, 8:07 PM

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Appart from drastically fucking up your brain

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 8:07 PM

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apparently it's useful for designing programming languages

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I can see why, it's all about Type Theory

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although it's a bit advanced for elara lol

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possibly

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maybe

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 8:12 PM

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prisma wave any examples of a paradox? i can understand why but i can't really think of any ...

So there's Russell's paradox for example which is the idea that if you define sets to be a collection of "any objects" you can construct this set: R = { S | S ∉ S }
So this would be a set containing every set that does not contain itself

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The paradox happens when you ask the question if R is contained in itself

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Because if that were the case, it can't be contained in itself

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And if it's not the case, it must be contained in itself

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 8:13 PM

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ohh yeah I think I've heard of that

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 8:13 PM

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And you can derive a lot of other stuff from that

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with similar ideas

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 8:19 PM

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wayback machine is the best

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also #794429923698802708 a whole skyblock plugin for free

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👀

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 8:20 PM

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im losing braincells from this conversation in Code Cave

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 8:20 PM

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i have no idea what u guys are saying

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what are structs?!

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 8:20 PM

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classes without the methods

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basically

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 8:20 PM

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o

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 8:20 PM

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just like data

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only

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 8:21 PM

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also gradle not working

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:((

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 8:21 PM

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:((

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 8:21 PM

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=paste

compact perchBOT Jan 10, 2021, 8:21 PM

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HelpChat Paste

Please use a paste service to share configs, errors, code and long logs.
• HelpChat Paste

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 8:21 PM

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prisma wave im losing braincells from this conversation in Code Cave

I want see

compact perchBOT Jan 10, 2021, 8:21 PM

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📋 Your paste, dkim19375

https://paste.helpch.at/iqogesoyuc

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 8:21 PM

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this is my build.gradle

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pls someone help 🙂

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 8:24 PM

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whats not working

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"we cant help unless you send a stacktrace"!!

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 8:24 PM

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lol

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basically its as if worldguard isn't listed in there

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no build errors

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 8:26 PM

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com.sk89q.worldguard:com.sk89q.worldguard:worldguard-legacy:6.2

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 8:28 PM

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prisma wave > `com.sk89q.worldguard:com.sk89q.worldguard:worldguard-legacy:6.2`

yes

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that is correct

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I need 1.8 😐

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😦

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I'd switch if I could

hot hull Jan 10, 2021, 8:28 PM

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ngl BM, language theory is probably easier than understading women, might actually read on that

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Lmaoo

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 8:29 PM

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half harness yes

please read what I sent

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 8:30 PM

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oh

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oh...............................

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lmao

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 8:30 PM

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if i am handling user data i wanna load when the login and save when the disconnect right

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and just remove it from my maps

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 8:30 PM

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hot hull ngl BM, language theory is probably easier than understading women, might actual...

This is a quote from 59 year old ALGOL programmer Bob

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 8:30 PM

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memory management

hot hull Jan 10, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Depends Sensei

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How much data we talking

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Still not working

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 8:31 PM

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at the moment my User class stores uuid and about 8 ints

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but im expecting to expand to alot more

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just wanna make sure the base is all well and good

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before i add

hot hull Jan 10, 2021, 8:32 PM

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Should be fine to have it loaded on enable and saved on disable

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Probably more impact if the user keeps rejoining than having it stored all the time

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 8:33 PM

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what if there was some sort of time to live that removes it say 5 mintues later

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some runnable

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and if they rejoin

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just cancel it

hot hull Jan 10, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Could have an expiring cache

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 8:34 PM

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May as well right

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i mean im working on a custom server i doubt i will ever release, more just for practice

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so i may as well try it

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 9:07 PM

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@ocean quartz sorry for ping, but what's the best way of making a "dynamic" menu with your gui lib?
I was just gonna use recursion (re-generate and open a new menu whenever the data updates), but that activates the onClose action which I only want to happen when they actually press esc
This didn't work so I tried just re-adding all the GUI items but now none of the actions work.
Is there an easier way?

distant sun Jan 10, 2021, 9:08 PM

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there is update()

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 9:09 PM

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o

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that will probably work

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i was using player.updateInventory()

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lemme try

distant sun Jan 10, 2021, 9:09 PM

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Nah

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d;spigot player#updateInventory

ruby craterBOT Jan 10, 2021, 9:09 PM

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org.bukkit.entity.Player#updateInventory

void updateInventory()```

Description:

Forces an update of the player's entire inventory.

distant sun Jan 10, 2021, 9:10 PM

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"Player's entire inventory"

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 9:10 PM

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yeah that works perfectly

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ty

distant sun Jan 10, 2021, 9:10 PM

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Np

oak raft Jan 10, 2021, 9:52 PM

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half harness I need 1.8 😐

yeahhhh

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1.8 ftw

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why do u have 1.8 server tho

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 10:06 PM

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oak raft why do u have 1.8 server tho

making it for someone else

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 10:06 PM

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oak raft 1.8 ftw

YES

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1.8 is fun to play, but horrible to develop on

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 10:07 PM

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if im gonna load player data should it be done on the AsyncPlayerPreLoginEvent or PlayerJoinEvent

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i assume prelogin

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since its async

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 10:09 PM

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d;spigot PlayerJoinEvent

ruby craterBOT Jan 10, 2021, 10:09 PM

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org.bukkit.event.player.PlayerJoinEvent

public class PlayerJoinEvent
extends PlayerEvent```
PlayerJoinEvent has 5 methods, and  1 extensions.

Description:

Called when a player joins a server

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 10:09 PM

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d;spigot AsyncPlayerPreLoginEvent

ruby craterBOT Jan 10, 2021, 10:09 PM

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org.bukkit.event.player.AsyncPlayerPreLoginEvent

public class AsyncPlayerPreLoginEvent
extends Event```
AsyncPlayerPreLoginEvent has 14 methods, and  1 extensions.

Description:

Stores details for players attempting to log in. This event is asynchronous, and not run using main thread.

tranquil crane Jan 10, 2021, 10:13 PM

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I'd just suggest loading it in PlayerJoinEvent since you know 100% that the player will be connected at that point

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PreLogin the player has started connecting but still isn't even fully authenticated or checked for the ban list so that's a bit premature for loading data in most cases

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 10:14 PM

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@winter iron some info ^

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 10:15 PM

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if i set to highest priority on the eventhandler and check the login result

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would that be good enough tho

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if the login result is allowed

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should be fine?

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 10:16 PM

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btw highest priority = run last
just saying, people usually get it reversed

tranquil crane Jan 10, 2021, 10:16 PM

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If you want to prevent the player from joining until your data is loaded for them then yes, listen on the monitor priority and check if the login is allowed, that's pretty much the only use case I can think of for using that event for loading data

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Since the event is done in a separate thread it should be safe to run a database query in there or something, it will prevent the player from joining while the data is loading but that's probably what you want

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 10:18 PM

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ye

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so lets assume its loading the data

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and they disconnect as its loading

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how would i check for that

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 10:20 PM

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Why would you want to check that case?

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 10:21 PM

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so im gonna load the data in prelogin and if they disconnect its gonna save the users data and clean up some stuff

old wyvern Jan 10, 2021, 10:21 PM

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It would probably be a better approach to use some expiring cache and save on expiry

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 10:22 PM

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which is why i wanna see if there is a way to see if they dc whilst prelogin

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ye

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ive got it saving periodically whilst player is on

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and when they dc

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i have a task that waits 5 mins before cleaning up the user

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but in case they connect and disconnect same time

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before loading

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is there a way to check for it

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if not ill just run my cleanup task on prelogin too

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and check if the player is offline it cleans up fine

tranquil crane Jan 10, 2021, 10:24 PM

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They won't be able to connect and disconnect at the same time if you hang the PreLogin thread

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it's also extremely unlikely you would run into any issues with that happening anyway, I load data in the join event and have never once seen an issue with somebody disconnecting while the data was still loading

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 10:24 PM

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When you login to a server u can cancel it, does that just throw the quit event or smth

tranquil crane Jan 10, 2021, 10:25 PM

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PreLogin doesn't start until the connection isn't cancelable anymore I bekieve

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 10:25 PM

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hmm

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ok

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ill do some testing

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thanks

tranquil crane Jan 10, 2021, 10:26 PM

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After the client authenticates with the server it's no longer cancelable.. I know this because I modified a server to never send world data to the client and it just softlocks them on the Loading world... Screen forever

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do not recommend

winter iron Jan 10, 2021, 10:26 PM

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xd

ocean quartz Jan 10, 2021, 10:54 PM

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prisma wave <@!180369172046413824> sorry for ping, but what's the best way of making a "dyna...

Yeah either what gaby said or updateItem if it's just one or two things that will change

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 10:54 PM

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hmm

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i'll stick with update for now

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idk how many will change, it depends

forest pecan Jan 10, 2021, 11:00 PM

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fck

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i lost my daily streak

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https://tenor.com/view/guess-ill-die-gif-9704573

Tenor

guess ill die

▶ Play video

obtuse gale Jan 10, 2021, 11:00 PM

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kekw

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weren't you offline for like a whole 2 weeks or more?

forest pecan Jan 10, 2021, 11:01 PM

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no

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i was still doing commands

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in the bot channel

ocean quartz Jan 10, 2021, 11:06 PM

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Found an actually not bad explanation for classes and objects https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUqKuGNasdM
If anyone ever asks it again this video might be pretty good

YouTube

Keep On Coding

Java Classes & Objects

Discord: https://discord.gg/ypFyyWq
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/keep_on_coding
My Gear: https://amazon.com/shop/keeponcoding
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/KeepOnCoding

CodeJams is out on all major streaming platforms!

Spotify - https://bit.ly/Code...

▶ Play video

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Ignore the part where he uses public fields, it's very beginner

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@half harness You specially, at the beginning he explains, instance, object, and class

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 11:11 PM

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pinging someone specifically when they havent even asked for it 😭 😭

ocean quartz Jan 10, 2021, 11:11 PM

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He has asked that many times so yeah worth pinging

surreal quarry Jan 10, 2021, 11:18 PM

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lmao

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 11:18 PM

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ocean quartz <@!521485088995672084> You specially, at the beginning he explains, instance, ob...

wut

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 11:19 PM

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onyx loom pinging someone specifically when they havent even asked for it 😭 😭

idc 🙂 🙂 🙂

surreal quarry Jan 10, 2021, 11:19 PM

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watch the beginning of the video hes saying lol

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 11:21 PM

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❓

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 11:21 PM

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good video

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 11:22 PM

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🙄

ocean quartz Jan 10, 2021, 11:23 PM

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half harness wut

What is confusing in that sentence?

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 11:23 PM

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;-;

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nvm

surreal quarry Jan 10, 2021, 11:24 PM

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anyone know if theres a way to make git branch --list show as just a list in the console instead of the man page format

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i have to hit q every time i list something

forest pecan Jan 10, 2021, 11:26 PM

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bruh

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i shaded in a library

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my plugin went from 70kb

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to 100 megabytes

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🥱

surreal quarry Jan 10, 2021, 11:27 PM

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pdm

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pdm

ocean quartz Jan 10, 2021, 11:27 PM

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forest pecan to 100 megabytes

Oh no 100mb!

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What are you even shading?

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 11:27 PM

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its not like u have terrabytes of storage! 🌝

forest pecan Jan 10, 2021, 11:27 PM

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an audio encoding library

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lol

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 11:27 PM

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(or atleast id hope u have atleast 1tb in 2021)

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 11:29 PM

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surreal quarry anyone know if theres a way to make `git branch --list` show as just a list in t...

git branch

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lol

surreal quarry Jan 10, 2021, 11:30 PM

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still lists it the same way

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unless you were just pointing out im a dumbass for using --list

lunar cypress Jan 10, 2021, 11:31 PM

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ah my mistake thought --list was enabling that

forest pecan Jan 10, 2021, 11:33 PM

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when you realize your code takes long to execute so you have to use a second thread

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🌚

quiet sierra Jan 10, 2021, 11:34 PM

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Thanks

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Really cool

forest pecan Jan 10, 2021, 11:34 PM

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ty intellij

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 11:37 PM

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switch to netbeans

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the SUPERIOR IDE

quiet sierra Jan 10, 2021, 11:38 PM

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Ms paint IDE

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 11:39 PM

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Sounds to me like you would benefit from E L A R A G E N E R I C S

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 11:39 PM

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onyx loom the SUPERIOR IDE

😐 notepad is

onyx loom Jan 10, 2021, 11:39 PM

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no

forest pecan Jan 10, 2021, 11:41 PM

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yall dumbasses obviously paper and pencil is the best ide out there

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"infinite possibilities"

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just draw a run button

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boom you run the program

half harness Jan 10, 2021, 11:44 PM

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😮

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idk how I didn't think of that!

quiet sierra Jan 10, 2021, 11:53 PM

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just bring a wire to your motherboard

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shock it a few times

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done

prisma wave Jan 10, 2021, 11:54 PM

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short a few pins

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Ez

quiet sierra Jan 10, 2021, 11:54 PM

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ez

surreal quarry Jan 10, 2021, 11:54 PM

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prisma wave Sounds to me like you would benefit from ***E L A R A G E N E R I C S***

i cant imagine who wouldnt

forest pecan Jan 10, 2021, 11:56 PM

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omg

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i got my plugin to work

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the only issue is

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it stalls the server

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cause it runs on the main thread

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👺

surreal quarry Jan 10, 2021, 11:57 PM

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sounds like it doesnt work

forest pecan Jan 10, 2021, 11:58 PM

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nah

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it just takes so long to run

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cause of decoding and everything

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so it stalls the server

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lol

quiet sierra Jan 10, 2021, 11:59 PM

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async

forest pecan Jan 10, 2021, 11:59 PM

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yea

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im forced to use threads

half harness Jan 11, 2021, 12:05 AM

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forest pecan im forced to use threads

use bukkit async

quiet sierra Jan 11, 2021, 12:06 AM

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or completablefuture

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 12:07 AM

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ExecutorService fingerguns

ocean quartz Jan 11, 2021, 12:09 AM

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Coroutines fingerguns

surreal quarry Jan 11, 2021, 12:09 AM

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one day i need to actually learn how to use coroutines properly

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 12:10 AM

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Coroutines are amazing

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But pretty tricky

surreal quarry Jan 11, 2021, 12:10 AM

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yea ik they are awesome i just have yet to learn them lol

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 12:10 AM

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I still don't fully understand them

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They're cool though

surreal quarry Jan 11, 2021, 12:10 AM

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can you use them in place of like the bukkit scheduler?

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 12:10 AM

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Just add suspend everywhere until things work

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Yeah

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There's a library that combines them both

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Or they can just replace it

surreal quarry Jan 11, 2021, 12:11 AM

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https://github.com/Shynixn/MCCoroutine this?

ocean quartz Jan 11, 2021, 12:15 AM

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You don't need that, just use normal coroutines

surreal quarry Jan 11, 2021, 12:16 AM

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if i have data stored in json files vs a database should getting that be run async as well

ocean quartz Jan 11, 2021, 12:17 AM

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Ideally

surreal quarry Jan 11, 2021, 12:17 AM

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alr time to learn coroutines then

forest pecan Jan 11, 2021, 12:21 AM

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Guys i repeat

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my plugin has increased 7 megabytes

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from 100 -> 107

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 12:24 AM

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lol

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Damn field access breakpoints really slow down the program speed

onyx loom Jan 11, 2021, 12:31 AM

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omg pog

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107mb = enterprise solutions

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 12:33 AM

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surreal quarry https://github.com/Shynixn/MCCoroutine this?

I was referring to Skedule but that probably works

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 12:34 AM

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"Sk" brings me nightmares

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 12:36 AM

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🥲

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 12:37 AM

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wasn't gonna

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buenas noches 🙂

glad tide Jan 11, 2021, 12:54 AM

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hi

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 12:56 AM

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hello there, unmentionable user

ocean quartz Jan 11, 2021, 12:56 AM

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@ٴۢ#8153 Freaky name

static zealot Jan 11, 2021, 12:57 AM

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o

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try to mention him lmao https://i.imgur.com/mw9EQJM.png

Imgur

surreal quarry Jan 11, 2021, 12:58 AM

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yea it like flips it lmao

lunar cypress Jan 11, 2021, 1:06 AM

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That just happens with certain unicode characters bcs they're read from left to right

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Right to left

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How do I keep confusing that

regal gale Jan 11, 2021, 1:07 AM

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That is most commonly in Arabian unicode

lunar cypress Jan 11, 2021, 1:09 AM

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Not just that

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Not sure where this particular char comes from, but one major language that's read that way is Hebrew for example

quiet depot Jan 11, 2021, 1:10 AM

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@glad tide names need to be mentionable here

forest pecan Jan 11, 2021, 1:34 AM

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ay

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i reduced the size of my plugin

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by 50 megabytes

half harness Jan 11, 2021, 1:34 AM

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oh jeez

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 1:35 AM

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"plugin"

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Lol

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That's larger than the final server jar still

forest pecan Jan 11, 2021, 1:37 AM

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yea lol

half harness Jan 11, 2021, 1:38 AM

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forest pecan by 50 megabytes

y so big

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 1:38 AM

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😏

forest pecan Jan 11, 2021, 1:39 AM

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thats

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what

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she

static zealot Jan 11, 2021, 1:39 AM

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didn't say\

forest pecan Jan 11, 2021, 1:39 AM

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yes

forest pecan Jan 11, 2021, 2:03 AM

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does anyone know what operating system server hosting companies use?

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im guessing linux

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 2:04 AM

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Most likely

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Even Microsoft for sure lol

surreal quarry Jan 11, 2021, 2:05 AM

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macos

half harness Jan 11, 2021, 2:05 AM

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Make a plugin that detects the OS 🙂

surreal quarry Jan 11, 2021, 2:05 AM

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or windows xp

glad tide Jan 11, 2021, 2:25 AM

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quiet depot <@!316331956591656980> names need to be mentionable here

Hahahaha sorry

surreal quarry Jan 11, 2021, 2:35 AM

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@ocean quartz if i build triumph chat is it ready to use or not yet?

ocean quartz Jan 11, 2021, 2:45 AM

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surreal quarry <@!180369172046413824> if i build triumph chat is it ready to use or not yet?

Not yet, some things need to be finished first

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I can let you know once it's ready

surreal quarry Jan 11, 2021, 2:45 AM

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sounds good 👍

half harness Jan 11, 2021, 3:33 AM

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what should I do

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when I have 30+ unfinished projects

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 3:33 AM

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start a new one

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30 is weak

half harness Jan 11, 2021, 3:34 AM

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oh

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that was not the advice i was expecting 🥲

junior granite Jan 11, 2021, 3:58 AM

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any advice for a tablist

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on bedwars

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coz on mine its not showing the team colors

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 3:59 AM

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#general-plugins #general-plugins-2 :p

junior granite Jan 11, 2021, 3:59 AM

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okay

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 5:17 AM

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this doesn't add up thonking1

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viscid charm Jan 11, 2021, 8:45 AM

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Are utils suppose to be static?

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 8:48 AM

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Yeah

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 8:51 AM

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pro gamers just name all their classes with Util as a suffix to the class name, then make all the methods static

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 8:53 AM

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🥲

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 10:07 AM

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coc anyone?

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:08 AM

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good idea

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 10:09 AM

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indeed

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:09 AM

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https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/153984671bf43585c03aeea7d0fa8990f3e8f1b

hot hull Jan 11, 2021, 10:10 AM

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Later bm

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Gotta finish this assignment first

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:10 AM

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😦

hot hull Jan 11, 2021, 10:10 AM

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like 15min ❤️

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:11 AM

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okay

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 10:11 AM

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coc first, assignment later

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:12 AM

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^

hot hull Jan 11, 2021, 10:17 AM

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If I wasn't almost finished with it yes, however since I've got like 3 sentences left, coc can wait fingerguns

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 10:17 AM

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idk what this question is tryna get me to do

hot hull Jan 11, 2021, 10:17 AM

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:suislide:

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:17 AM

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shortest time in minutes

queen star Jan 11, 2021, 10:21 AM

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I have a server with +- 100 ppl on it.
We have 40k tiled entities when i do /lag
Can this cause lag?
Furthermore:
We have 1500 itemframes loaded at any one time, sometimes up to 2500
I wanna know whats causing the lagg on the server when 150 ppl come the tps drops to 14
We are running this server on a dedicated ryzen 9 3900x

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 10:25 AM

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i swear im just dumb here

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my code is always printing 0

hot hull Jan 11, 2021, 10:25 AM

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Invite me to the new one, gonna go make sum food rn

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:26 AM

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obtuse gale my code is always printing 0

are you using minBy by any chance?

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because i had the same thing

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 10:26 AM

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no

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literally

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:26 AM

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send your code

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 10:27 AM

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hold up

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var x = 0

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x = 10

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x is 10 there right?

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im not just dumb

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:27 AM

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yes

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 10:27 AM

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fun main(args : Array<String>) {
    val input = Scanner(System.`in`)
    val N = input.nextInt()
    var lowest = 0
    for (i in 0 until N) {
        val s = input.nextInt()
        val d = input.nextInt()
        val t = ((d/s) * 60)
        if(lowest > t){
            lowest = t
        }
    }
    println(lowest)
}``` idk if i even get the question right lol

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:28 AM

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you need to use floating point division

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not ints

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lol

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unlucky

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@hot hull you free now

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 10:31 AM

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ping me when forstys here

hot hull Jan 11, 2021, 10:32 AM

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I'm here

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sad as fuck tho

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Ran out of bread, so gotta use toast instead :C

old wyvern Jan 11, 2021, 10:33 AM

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Oh you guys doing coc?

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:33 AM

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yup

hot hull Jan 11, 2021, 10:33 AM

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send the link

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:33 AM

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hot hull Ran out of bread, so gotta use toast instead :C

waht

old wyvern Jan 11, 2021, 10:33 AM

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Im in for next round

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:33 AM

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https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/153987759becf230a2775c6cb95a2fa732e64cf

hot hull Jan 11, 2021, 10:34 AM

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Making food BM, but I ran out of bread, so I had to use toast bread instead

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:34 AM

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what's the difference

hot hull Jan 11, 2021, 10:34 AM

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toast is smaller, less girth

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 10:34 AM

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toast bread is thicker

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at least here it is i think lol

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:35 AM

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weird

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we just use the same for both

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 10:35 AM

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i thought toast bread had more girth

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:35 AM

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girthy bread

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right

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 10:35 AM

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old wyvern Jan 11, 2021, 10:36 AM

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What in the hell

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Bread is bread

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Dont ruin it

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:36 AM

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^^

hot hull Jan 11, 2021, 10:38 AM

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It's not

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:38 AM

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what

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 10:38 AM

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why am i so dumb

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i forgot you could print booleans

oak coyote Jan 11, 2021, 10:38 AM

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Toast is just bread^2

hot hull Jan 11, 2021, 10:38 AM

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Y'all just got annihalated by a dude eating toast

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What is this

obtuse gale Jan 11, 2021, 10:38 AM

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I literally did if(b) println("true) else println("false")

hot hull Jan 11, 2021, 10:39 AM

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lol Aj

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:39 AM

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tf is wrong with my logic?

hot hull Jan 11, 2021, 10:39 AM

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just multiply, subtract, check

oak coyote Jan 11, 2021, 10:39 AM

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Your missing a speech mark Aj

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:39 AM

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ive done that

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let salary = a * 5 * 6 * 4

printfn "%b" (a - c >= b)

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oh

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shit

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ffs

hot hull Jan 11, 2021, 10:40 AM

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missing () I pressume

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:40 AM

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no

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i was using a instead of salary

hot hull Jan 11, 2021, 10:40 AM

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oof

oak coyote Jan 11, 2021, 10:40 AM

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Yeah I was confused why you had salary defined but not then used

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:40 AM

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very smart

oak coyote Jan 11, 2021, 10:42 AM

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It’s fine I’ve accidentally forgot to transcient a variable before and caused myself to stare at code for 2 days wondering why it was moaning about a long

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:42 AM

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🥲

oak coyote Jan 11, 2021, 10:42 AM

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Cause I put the variable not with the rest

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For Gson serialisation ^

hot hull Jan 11, 2021, 10:44 AM

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Yugi dead?

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:44 AM

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seems like it

old wyvern Jan 11, 2021, 10:46 AM

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Worth the time!!!

prisma wave Jan 11, 2021, 10:46 AM

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ooh haskell