dev-general

[static zealot]

glad I switched from whatever I was using

[ocean quartz]

For normal prints i still use Lightshot, because its screenshot editing is better than sharex, but everything else sharex wins

[static zealot]

maybe. I don't need to edit tho. And I love that it can post directly to my imgur

same with gifs

[prisma wave]

self hosted >

[steel heart]

<<<<<

[old wyvern]

<>

[obtuse gale]

<

[old wyvern]

<<>>

[obtuse gale]

o>

[old wyvern]

<!-->

[obtuse gale]

\o>

[ocean quartz]

Do like phoenix domain.com/📷 /image.jpg

[old wyvern]

<o/

[obtuse gale]

|<o>|

[old wyvern]

{>o<}

[steel heart]

[ <?) . <?) ]

[old wyvern]

{[[-][-]]}
{\------/}

[static zealot]

I ain't got a web host.

[steel heart]

(⌐□_□)–︻╦╤─

[ocean quartz]

Just get one

[old wyvern]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[loud gyro]

┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

[prisma wave]

^^

ez

[lavish notch]

might anyone here be up to take on my request in #783231030860972032?

[steel heart]

┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻

[ocean quartz]

Just use my config lib, it's free

Also can yall like, not spam? xD

[lavish notch]

but does it have auto-updating configuration?

[ocean quartz]

Yes

[forest pecan]

auto updating is not that hard

the keys are still there

[hot hull]

auto updating is fucking disgusting

[forest pecan]

its disgusting agreed

but it isnt super hard or anything

unless you are renaming keys

[ocean quartz]

Why is it disgusting?

[forest pecan]

in that case it would be nasty

renaming keys would be horrible

but adding or removing

is ez

[hot hull]

Ah yes let me update the plugin, I wasn't aware there was additions, the default thing happens to have OP shit set as default, woops lookie now entire eco fucked

[lavish notch]

link me

[hot hull]

You get what I'm trynna say?

[ocean quartz]

What? What does that have anything to do with auto-updating config?
If you need to add things to your config, would you want the user to add it manually?

[lavish notch]

I'd want it to automatically add it for the user.

[ocean quartz]

maven { url = "https://repo.mattstudios.me/artifactory/public/" }
implementation "me.mattstudios:triumph-config:1.0.3-SNAPSHOT"

Here is an example of it working, since i don't have it documented yet:
https://github.com/TriumphDev/chat/blob/development/plugin/src/main/kotlin/me/mattstudios/triumphchat/config/Settings.kt

[steel heart]

ᕕ(╭ರ╭ ͟ʖ╮•́)⊃¤=(————-

[hot hull]

let me give a better example, let's take AutoSell for example, you update the plugin and it has an auto updating config which adds a new sell feature let's say, the default has a default value for that feature set which happens to be some OP value in the point of view from your servers economy. Let's say you weren't aware of that and just load up the plugin without changing the config at all, you go on with your day, now the users figure out that feature and they get a shit ton of eco breaking stuff because that was the plugins default, meaning now the eco is broken because the plugin auto updated the config

Really don't know how else to explain it lol

[forest pecan]

well that isnt really the dev's fault

unless the dev purposely adds a feature

where the plugin ALWAYS autoupdates

when a new download

[ocean quartz]

That has nothing to do with being auto updating, that's the dev's job to make sure it'll be implemented safely into their system
And also the server owner's job to read updates

[forest pecan]

without the server owner's job

[hot hull]

But it's minecraft, noone fucking reads update notes lmao

[forest pecan]

their fault

lmfao

[hot hull]

Y'all thinking of a perfect scenario

[forest pecan]

their consequence

xD

[ocean quartz]

That's their fault lol

[forest pecan]

Yeah life isnt fair

[hot hull]

y'all stoopid

[forest pecan]

no u

u stoppid

[hot hull]

The heck tho

java.lang.UnsupportedOperationException: Retrieving groups by name is not supported on this platform.
at kotlin.internal.PlatformImplementations.getMatchResultNamedGroup(PlatformImplementations.kt:29) ~[?:?]
at kotlin.text.MatcherMatchResult$groups$1.get(Regex.kt:288) ~[?:?]
at kotlin.text.jdk8.RegexExtensionsJDK8Kt.get(RegexExtensions.kt:34) ~[?:?]
at com.github.frcsty.frozenactions.wrapper.ActionHandler.execute(ActionHandler.kt:62) ~[?:?]

[prisma wave]

let config = ConfigKey("setting.name")

print(config.get(String))

[prisma wave]

probably a java 11 thing

[distant sun]

What

[prisma wave]

elara standard library

[ocean quartz]

And does it include PDM?

[prisma wave]

somewhere yes

near the bottom

[ocean quartz]

😢

[forest pecan]

bruh where elara lang

inside that

[prisma wave]

#1

[old wyvern]

let minecraft = Minecraft()
run(minecraft)

[forest pecan]

numbers supposed to start at #0

you arent a programmer

smh ikr

[prisma wave]

such elegant design

[old wyvern]

precisely

[prisma wave]

type Entity = Player | Zombie | Creeper | Cow | Enderman | ArmorStand | Skeleton

[old wyvern]

exquisite

[prisma wave]

Minecraft in elara

[forest pecan]

type Object = $

public class $ {
}

[prisma wave]

type OptionalInt = Optional<T> where T = Int

[steel heart]

u die

u want to get bamboozled also?

stop then

@prisma wave is UUID.randomUuid() or what its called heavy?

[prisma wave]

not that I know of

[ocean quartz]

Doesn't seem like it

[steel heart]

ii

oo

nice

[ocean quartz]

Generating 10000 uuids took 193ms

[prisma wave]

interesting, I wonder how it makes sure they're actually unique then

[forest pecan]

public static class $$ {
}

this better babe?

😊

Lol

[prisma wave]

private volatile final static synchronized class A$B

[ocean quartz]

An average of 13.73μs per uuid
Does it make sure it's unique? I thought it didn't

[prisma wave]

Idk

I thought that was the point

randomUUID is always unique

Maybe it's just so big that it's pretty much impossible to get a duplicate

[obtuse gale]

Supposedly

[prisma wave]

yea

Supposedly

[ocean quartz]

Since a UUID has a finite size there is no way for it to be unique across all of space and time.
If you need a UUID that is guaranteed to be unique within any reasonable use case you can use Log4j 2's Uuid.getTimeBasedUuid(). It is guaranteed to be unique for about 8,900 years so long as you generate less than 10,000 UUIDs per millisecond.

[obtuse gale]

Run it for long enough and it is no longer unique

[prisma wave]

The media will tell you that it's unique, but that's what they want you to think

[forest pecan]

wait

[obtuse gale]

[forest pecan]

what is transient

[prisma wave]

doesn't get serialized

[forest pecan]

how come i never seen this before

transient

im so confused

i never seen this keyword before

[obtuse gale]

^

If the class implements Serializable, that object is not taken into consideration

[prisma wave]

No idea why they made that a keyword

Actually I do know

Because annotations didn't exist

[ocean quartz]

Checking if 100M uuids contain any repeated one :kek:

[prisma wave]

just use a Set and check the size

Smh

No more for any O(n) operations

[ocean quartz]

Not as fun

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space lmao

[prisma wave]

smh

I'm sure a HashSet could do it in 2MB of ram

Or less !!

[ocean quartz]

Alright i am gonna do a set 🙄

[surreal quarry]

you cqan use underscores for numbers like that?

[ocean quartz]

Yeah

@prisma wave With a set lmao Java heap space

[prisma wave]

😔

You're probably doing it wrong

[ocean quartz]

I guess jvm can't do it, i bet Elara could 😔

[prisma wave]

obviously

[obtuse gale]

Bro just -Xmx14G

[old wyvern]

The universe was written in elara

[prisma wave]

[1..100_000_000].map(_ => UUID::randomUUID()).distinct().size == 100_000_000

[old wyvern]

its fits everything

[hot hull]

insert aham joke

[prisma wave]

hmm that is not idiomatic

[ocean quartz]

This is good enough

[prisma wave]

import elara/uuid

[1..100_000_000].mapDistinct(_ => randomUUID()).size == 100_000_000 

import elara/uuid

let uuids = generateSet(100_000_000, _ => randomUUID())

uuids.size == 100_000_000

[old wyvern]

import elara/uuid
buildSet(100_000_000, randomUUID).size == 100_000_000

[ocean quartz]

Giving IJ 6GB now

[surreal quarry]

25mil didn't give any repeats

[ocean quartz]

Also removing the toString, might help too

[old wyvern]

hmm

[prisma wave]

I wonder what the actually most efficient way of doing it is

[surreal quarry]

sounds like we wont get a duplicate

lmao

[prisma wave]

checking for duplicates that is

You could short circuit the loop after encountering a duplicate

[ocean quartz]

Not sure but IJ is loving all that food

[ocean quartz]

Not a bad idea

[obtuse gale]

Yeah but give it a boundary lmao

[surreal quarry]

still doesn't fix the problem of actually getting through enough iterations to find a uuid

[ocean quartz]

It completed :pog:

[old wyvern]

A trie is probably more efficient

not sure

[ocean quartz]

Time for 1 billion

[prisma wave]

Probably

Encoded as a long or string

[ocean quartz]

Huh?

[old wyvern]

its not off topic tho?

oh you boosted

[ocean quartz]

This channel is literally off topic xD

[prisma wave]

Yeah a Trie would definitely be better

[old wyvern]

mhm

only store the diff chars

[prisma wave]

elara standard library had better have one

[old wyvern]

deff

[ocean quartz]

You can't break on a repeat that's sad

[old wyvern]

Btw

Android will make people hate google

The limitations on that shit

god

and each manufacturer adds their own limitations

ffs

[prisma wave]

return@buildSet ?

[ocean quartz]

Yeah that's what i did instead

Giving it 12GB of ram now

[old wyvern]

https://gist.github.com/sagar-viradiya/891cf7d08b6ac13bb1fbdc411b76f6a5

[ocean quartz]

You can also return@repeat

[old wyvern]

try with that matt

or this

https://gist.github.com/jackfarrington/da21b6aff957f421fdb79de8926663fe

[ocean quartz]

Let me try this way first then i'll do the trie

[old wyvern]

Alrighty

[ocean quartz]

Aight i'll be back with the results in like 20 minutes xD

[prisma wave]

parallelStream it

[surreal quarry]

!=

[obtuse gale]

Not equals

[prisma wave]

!=

Font ligatures

[obtuse gale]

≠

[prisma wave]

makes them look like mathematical symbols

Or just nicer in general

[obtuse gale]

https://smh.com/

[surreal quarry]

masks save lives

pog

[obtuse gale]

Nice lol

[ocean quartz]

Came back to this, sad

[surreal quarry]

F

[prisma wave]

rip

trie

[ocean quartz]

Would trie use less memory?

[prisma wave]

probably

definitely

well almost definitely

[obtuse gale]

What is a trie and why have I never heard of such thing

[prisma wave]

like a tree but it's done by characters

So for example

| h
|    i
|    ello
|            world

They all fall under the H branch because they start with an h

And then partitioned off into substrings

[obtuse gale]

So it's just... a tree

More like a "command" in a sense

[ocean quartz]

@prisma wave With this example from Yugi, how would that be implemented? Just insert or should i search before inserting?
https://gist.github.com/sagar-viradiya/891cf7d08b6ac13bb1fbdc411b76f6a5

Learn it

[obtuse gale]

I came out of the womb writing in brainfuck already

True story

[old wyvern]

just insert the string

it should map out to nodes as needed

new nodes are only created for new characters

Havent checked if that specific implementation is correct, was just the first one from a quick search, but hopefully it is

Gaurav Sen has a yt video that explains the structure well

[half harness]

funny how everyone in this server uses intellij while everyone in codedred uses eclipse 😂

interesting

[onyx loom]

the difference between the two servers intelligence is immeasurable

[surreal quarry]

imagine using eclipse

in 2020

lmao

[forest pecan]

?paste

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

Paste Services
When asking for help with a config/menu/code issue please use one of these:
(However we do prefer if you used our paste :))
• HelpChat Paste - Usage
• Hastebin

Requested by: PulseBeat_02 • paste

[half harness]

?

[forest pecan]

https://paste.helpch.at/doxazimepo.makefile

[hazy widget]

I'm kinda new to java and i just using a tutorial but this doesn't work

[half harness]

#development

[hazy widget]

.getAttribute

Ow

[half harness]

for support

[hazy widget]

Ok

[half harness]

this is just dev chat

[forest pecan]

https://paste.helpch.at/doxazimepo.makefile

[surreal quarry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayJ7tUac6dw thank you

[obtuse gale]

aaah

so you decoded

then you GAY

[surreal quarry]

👀

[forest pecan]

yes

he gay

[surreal quarry]

https://paste.jaims.dev/bahivedur.cpp do this one pulse

[obtuse gale]

[surreal quarry]

shhh

he dont know it makes him gay

[obtuse gale]

<url> ;)

[forest pecan]

too bad i got an ad

when ads save you right before

😊

[surreal quarry]

imagine not having adblocker

L

[forest pecan]

Lol

[half harness]

i havent seen a yt ad in months due to an awesome adblocker

:DDDDDD

[surreal quarry]

i havent seen an ad in years

built: different

[half harness]

opinion on technovision?

+ uses IntelliJ
+ uses java conventions
+ uses multiple classes and packages
- doesn't use gradle or maven

[forest pecan]

uh

you dont watch that

[half harness]

lol

[forest pecan]

you better dont

lmfao

[half harness]

im just seeing

bc of the other guy

[surreal quarry]

why is this man checking the command name when hes doing the command in a separate class

[half harness]

mentioned technovision

[forest pecan]

Oh lol

[half harness]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[forest pecan]

#bot-commands message

[surreal quarry]

lol

also why is he not using ChatColor#translateAlternateColorCodes

and hes not using gradle or maven

smh

[half harness]

i barely ever use translatealternativecolorcodes tbh

[surreal quarry]

that doesn't mean its good to not use it

just make a chat util

[half harness]

i only know codes for a, b, c, r, l, 6, and k

[onyx loom]

"" + ChatColor.GOLD + "" 🙂

[surreal quarry]

just google

the codes

[half harness]

and dont feel like opening up a webpage

just for 1 color code

when I can just do ChatColor.RED

[surreal quarry]

you would learn them after like a day

[half harness]

a = red

[surreal quarry]

nope

[half harness]

oops

ye

a = green

[surreal quarry]

ea

[half harness]

b = blue

(lighwhy aren'tm y messages senfing

oops

my typing sucks when i cantsee what i type

c = red

d = idk

f = white i think?

r = reset

l = bold

[onyx loom]

d pink

[half harness]

k = obfhhucate

[onyx loom]

1.16 hex colours 🙂

[half harness]

6 = gold iirc

thats all i know

[surreal quarry]

you should use translateAlternateColorCodes

you would learn them in like a day

[half harness]

oh and 4 = dark red

2 im assuming is dark green

and 3 im assuming is dark blue

and idk what 1 is

[onyx loom]

1 is dark blue

[half harness]

oh

oops

lol

[surreal quarry]

3 is like teal

there you go

[half harness]

i jsut type "format" in the search thing and https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Formatting_codes comes up

because I've used that site so many times

also trasnalteAlternativeColorCodes is so longgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

[onyx loom]

just make a chat util

[half harness]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

woah they call gold dark yellow

that looks like orange to me

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[surreal quarry]

just use kotlin

and extension functions

[half harness]

; - ;

[onyx loom]

it is far more easier to read a color method rather than ChatColor enums

[half harness]

im too lazy to open up a webpage

[obtuse gale]

or ditch legacy color codes and use components

[surreal quarry]

no

.

[obtuse gale]

why not

[ocean quartz]

Yeah.. nah

[half harness]

wuts so bad about that

😬

?

[obtuse gale]

what the fuck is that

[ocean quartz]

That entire class

[obtuse gale]

matt

delete that

please

I BEG YOU

[ocean quartz]

The youtuber he sent

[obtuse gale]

MY EYES

NOOO

[half harness]

WHAT

WHAT IS SO BAD ABOUT THAT_ _

[surreal quarry]

be better

[half harness]

it looks nice

[obtuse gale]

no it does not wtf

[half harness]

unless

ur talking about static..?

but

other than that

i cant find anything bad about it

[surreal quarry]

why is there an init method

please

[ocean quartz]

"Other than that"?

Lol

[half harness]

what is init

[ocean quartz]

It's like dating a guy, other the the fact that it's a dude it's fine

[half harness]

i thought thats just something that u guys know bc im nub

[surreal quarry]

means like initilizing things

[obtuse gale]

static, public, non final, there is an init method that immediately calls another private method (making it sorta useless lol)

[onyx loom]

what is wrong with that

its 2020 kappa

[ocean quartz]

Exactly

[half harness]

ack anyone know how to prevent discord from freezing

on a 1.1 ghz cpu

[onyx loom]

no?

[half harness]

😦

[onyx loom]

dont have a 1.1ghz cpu lmao

[half harness]

im literally typing without seeing

[onyx loom]

what time are u living in? 2001?

[half harness]

and my messages are sometimes delayed

lol

[surreal quarry]

get a new cpu

[half harness]

hey at least i have windows 10 pro

idk y

[surreal quarry]

why

linux is free smh

[half harness]

but 99% of apps run on windows

[forest pecan]

i use windows

and i code on windows, mac

sometimes linux

i just use windows cause i play video games as well

[surreal quarry]

dual boot. code on linux, play games on windows

[forest pecan]

and its easier to open video games in windows

[surreal quarry]

but i dont pay for windows lmao

[forest pecan]

i got it for free

you dont have to pay

you know you can just download it

lmfao

[half harness]

what is dual booting

[obtuse gale]

you have two feet

[half harness]

like having two operating systems running at the same time?

[obtuse gale]

then

you have two boots

dual booting

[surreal quarry]

when i start my pc i decide if i want to boot linux or windows

[half harness]

two OSs running at same time = my computer dies

[forest pecan]

@obtuse gale

[surreal quarry]

not at the same time

one or the other

[half harness]

but then im never gonna use linux

[obtuse gale]

lol not running at the same time

[half harness]

y use linux

[obtuse gale]

yes pulse

[forest pecan]

fast

[obtuse gale]

I am going to marry your daughter

[forest pecan]

for coding

[half harness]

oh

[obtuse gale]

when she is 25

and I'm like 57

[onyx loom]

no memory hog

[forest pecan]

pervert

lol

[half harness]

rip my 4gb memory

[obtuse gale]

:3

[forest pecan]

too bad

what if i have a son

:d

[half harness]

i have a different pc with 3.1 ghz cpu and 8gb memory

[ocean quartz]

That ear rape, jesus

[obtuse gale]

why is that any different

[half harness]

but im too lazy to use that one

and im on laptop right now

[obtuse gale]

you know me pulse

lol

[forest pecan]

oasjfipsajf

[forest pecan]

its an ear test

wdym

tests if you can hear all ranges

ya know

[ocean quartz]

Makes me wish i didn't

[half harness]

👂

[forest pecan]

its good for u

[surreal quarry]

lol

[static zealot]

anyone can answer this? ^ please. thanks. k. have. great. day. night. here.

[forest pecan]

so this was the problem i got stuck on for the usaco contest on the weekend

https://github.com/bqi343/USACO/blob/11967e4f167333be9527b6cd72a02d55ee46b83f/Contests/USACO Solutions/2020-21/Dec/Silver/rp.cpp

benjamin qi is a famous person who won 2 ioi's internationals first place each

but look on line 206

[static zealot]

oh no

[forest pecan]

i dont think he intended it

hes going to be bullied lmfao

[static zealot]

I mean cum means how in Romanian ... xD

[forest pecan]

I how

lol

[static zealot]

no...

that's not how it works

the translation of cum

[forest pecan]

yea obviously

[static zealot]

to english

is how

lmao

[forest pecan]

oh

XD

[static zealot]

cum is a romanian word as well

it just means "how"

not ... cum

[forest pecan]

well

[static zealot]

anyways good night

[forest pecan]

yeah lol

gn

wait a minute

its not just there

https://github.com/bqi343/USACO/search?q=cum

[obtuse gale]

Tf y'all talking about cum

Disgusting

> I cum
PulseBeat_02 - December 22nd 2020

[forest pecan]

@obtuse gale you have no evidence whatsoever it is me

that marking is a lie

i would not say such things

[obtuse gale]

lol

[forest pecan]

[quick flume]

@hot heron const decay = (a, b, c) => (a * b) / (a + c); does that actually take an input?

[hot heron]

yeah

[quick flume]

that's kinda cool

[hot heron]

you call them both the same way

Yeah I just realized you could do that

but I can't decide if I like it better or not haha

[quick flume]

i've never seen that

but const?

[hot heron]

Why not?

it's a function anyway, not like you're going to reassign it

[quick flume]

is it constructor?

[hot heron]

no, constant

[quick flume]

but it's not constant

[hot heron]

const just means it can't be reassigned

[quick flume]

hmm i suppose it is

just weird in my brain

it definitely looks cleaner

[hot heron]

I have a file with a bunch of helper math functions like this and I liked the prospect of essentially dividing my # of lines by 3

[quick flume]

basically

I think that if it's just 1 line in the function then why not

[hot heron]

Yeah, definitely only for one liners

[quick flume]

fs

[ocean quartz]

@obtuse gale I remember you calling Bukkit as Fukkit, and lmao i just found this https://github.com/ed-george/fukkit

[obtuse gale]

Lmao

That I was not expecting

[umbral mica]

insert fuckperms here

[regal gale]

[buoyant hatch]

Anyone free? I need someone to review my server setup real quick. just to be clear this is not an advertisement i just need you to join and tell me what is bad and how i can improve it. the more people the better.

[hot hull]

Do I update java, or do I rewrite my lib in java, (👍 for java, 👎 for rewrite)

[quiet depot]

wat

do both

[hot hull]

Well my test server is on java 15, but the person who's plugin this is for is probs on 8 so..

I really don't want to rewrite this lib, cause it's so smexy in kotlin

[quiet depot]

then do neither

[hot hull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/737281329967792218/791017128911700008/unknown.png

Not an option

[distant sun]

lol what

[prisma wave]

train

[forest pecan]

train

[onyx loom]

train

[half harness]

train

[onyx loom]

ive actually never had this problem before

[obtuse gale]

^

I dont think ive ever updated windows tbh

[hot hull]

I'm on win 7 so I haven't had that issue as well

[onyx loom]

yuck

[hot hull]

no u

[onyx loom]

ur basically using java 8 and 1.8 frosty

so outdated

disgusting

[hot hull]

I'm using latest

And java 15

[normal talon]

old school

[hot hull]

eat my ass

[onyx loom]

uh huh

in terms of windows tho

thats a different story

[half harness]

🤔 wut

[hot hull]

No, win7 is a completelly valid thing to use

[quiet depot]

man i'd love to use java 15

but dcevm is 11 only D:

[onyx loom]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-drumpf-trump-stupid-gif-6220235

[hot hull]

dcevm?

[quiet depot]

can someone merge dcevm into openjdk kthx

dynamic code evolution virtual machine

or something like that

[normal talon]

isn't that ✨ impossible ✨

[quiet depot]

isn't what impossible

[hot hull]

time to clean out the projects folder, it's becoming a mess

[normal talon]

dynamic code evolution virtual machine

[quiet depot]

well it's not

because it exists

[forest pecan]

frosty

i found you

Yeah

lmfao

[hot hull]

google bahroo

[half harness]

no nitro 😦

[oak moat]

hey guys how to make when u in server and jump with pads on other island u joined in second server ?
something like this
https://spizdi.ga/Images/VP1qutsq33.mp4

[ocean quartz]

God that looks so buggy

[half harness]

#development

[foggy pond]

I hate C, so so much

[ocean quartz]

+1

[oak raft]

What’s up fellow developers hehehe😌😌

[static zealot]

=joke

[compact perch]

Hey son,

What do you call cheese by itself? Provolone.

[oak raft]

U guys think I should apply for dev role

=joke

[compact perch]

Hey son,

Some people eat light bulbs. They say it's a nice light snack.

[steel heart]

=joke

[compact perch]

Hey son,

What do birds give out on Halloween? Tweets.

[onyx loom]

java static kills ur pc, i promise

[ocean quartz]

Should I write the API of my plugin in Java or keep it in Kotlin?

[obtuse gale]

Yes

[ocean quartz]

Gotcha, thank you

[hot hull]

Java Matt

[ocean quartz]

Hmm, any specific reason why?

[prisma wave]

is the entire project in kotlin?

[hot heron]

I did find an issue with the arrow function thing. with the function keyword it's declared globally and can be called before the line it's on. But with const/arrow function, it can only be called after that line

[prisma wave]

if so, make the api kotlin too

[ocean quartz]

It's all in Kotlin yeah

[quick flume]

makes sense, constants usually go at the top anyway right @hot heron ?

[hot heron]

It depends

So yeah, still not a huge issue but definitely something to consider

[quick flume]

yepp

[static zealot]

someone help me xD

what the hell is a nameserver/

[surreal quarry]

like for adomain?

[static zealot]

yep

[surreal quarry]

im pretty sure it represents like where its hosted or something

[static zealot]

oh

fuck

[surreal quarry]

your dns provider will usually set it and you dont have to worry about it

if you mess it up i think most hosts have a way to reset it

[static zealot]

welp then where the fuck do I point records from? lmao this panel is so trash

[half harness]

nameserver is a thing

for DNS

[surreal quarry]

what are you trying to do

[half harness]

nameservers just let something else control iirc

idk

[static zealot]

well I'm trying to point someone's subdomain panel.DOMAIN to his dedi

but the problem is

they don't have a control panel like namecheap does

[half harness]

huh?

[static zealot]

thought that maybe its something to do with nameserver

[surreal quarry]

what ive done in the past is just point * to the dedi, and handle subdomains with nginx

[static zealot]

well how the hell do I point?

xD

[surreal quarry]

A record

[static zealot]

yeah but how

like I don't know how

[surreal quarry]

1 sec

[static zealot]

on namecheap I have this panel

[surreal quarry]

lemme send a ss of my

[static zealot]

https://i.imgur.com/OYLnqGn.png

where I can do all this

[surreal quarry]

add new record

[static zealot]

but the domain

this guy bought

doesn't come with a panel

[surreal quarry]

oh i thought that ss was the panel lol

[static zealot]

ah it is mine

but I'm not doing mine

that's what I'm saying

he doesn't have a panel like I do xD

[surreal quarry]

does he have access to change the nameservers

[static zealot]

yeah

[surreal quarry]

kk i have an idea then

[static zealot]

Romania Top Level Domain I went here

logged in

but yeah no way to point records

like easy ways I mean

[surreal quarry]

im sure other places do it, but i believe digi ocean will handle your domain for you if you set the nameservers to theirs

its been a while since ive done it but im pretty sure its possible

[static zealot]

yeah but do they handle .ro domains? xD

[surreal quarry]

i think it would do any domain

as long as it has the nameservers

although i dont see the dns option anymore on DO

[static zealot]

... https://i.imgur.com/hwooSlQ.png

[surreal quarry]

yea you need to do it with a droplet it looks like

[static zealot]

fuck man why couldn't he listen to me and buy a .com

he had to rush and couldn't wait 2 hours for me to wake up

[surreal quarry]

i dont think thats the issue i think he just picked an ass hosting company]

[static zealot]

that too

lmao

thats why I wanted him to pick a .com instead

so he can buy it from namecheap

but he really wanted a .ro lmao

[surreal quarry]

id try to refund it and get one at a normal host lmao

cause like you can prob get a .ro at godaddy or namecheap or something

[static zealot]

he ain't getting a refund believe me xD

[surreal quarry]

lmao

[static zealot]

no James

tried

none of them have .ro

[surreal quarry]

actually yea thats tuff

idk why a hosting company wouldn't have a dns panel

like whats the point of a domain

if you dont control dns

that makes no sense

[static zealot]

wait

can't I move domains?

to other hosting companies?

[surreal quarry]

maybe

that would be the changing nameservers thing again

its worth a shot

[static zealot]

yeah just need to find a good company lmao

[surreal quarry]

https://www.namecheap.com/domains/transfer/domain-transfer-sale/?gclid=CjwKCAiA8ov_BRAoEiwAOZogwew68N4JuAr3fX2aWGRGdumwY5kl8HLDivYzc8t-K7eri5Jv7IF6MxoC0CEQAvD_BwE

thats namecheaps

https://www.godaddy.com/offers/domains/domain-transfer?isc=gofd1001aj&gclid=CjwKCAiA8ov_BRAoEiwAOZogwf913WnAZgvtpdvDjcpQodc9dbElzsYeWd17L9VMYIiPqlI2Scb04xoC3h0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds thats godaddy

[static zealot]

yeah but no .ro

I tried xD

[surreal quarry]

they dont even let you transfer

[static zealot]

Domains with this extension aren’t transferable

[surreal quarry]

damn

best bet is probably to cut his losses and get a domain thats not a .ro from a normal company lmao

[static zealot]

yeah that's what I'm telling him rn

like there's actually

no good company

that accepts .ro

only shady companies

[surreal quarry]

yea lol

just go with like a .net or .com or something lol

[static zealot]

ok actually

I found one

that has an website

with css...

not just html

lmao

[surreal quarry]

loll

[static zealot]

ugh

cloudfare

aparently?

anyone has link

to info about that

Mackenzie told me

I could use their nameservers

lmao

[prisma wave]

Digitalocean is ehh

[surreal quarry]

DO wouldnt work here anyways i dont think

[ocean quartz]

Any specific reason why?

[surreal quarry]

do it in kotlin just write it in a way that you know will work in java

[hot hull]

Not really

[ocean quartz]

It should work just as well in Java
Just curious about Frosty's answer

[surreal quarry]

iirc stuff like inlines dont work in java etc i just meant dont do stuff like that

[hot hull]

I mean regex doesn't work from a kotlin lib in java for me

[prisma wave]

inlines disappear at compile time

[hot hull]

Cause I use java 15

[ocean quartz]

Kotlin 1.4.21 supports Java 15 iirc

[onyx loom]

o

[winter iron]

If i want to access another plugin from my plugin, can i add the other plugin as a library and use OtherPlugin.getPlugin(OtherPlugin.class) or should i get it through plugin manager

plugin.getServer().getpluginmanager().getplugin("otherplugin");

[prisma wave]

either works

[winter iron]

does it really matter which

[prisma wave]

the first one means you don't have to cast though

not particularly

[distant sun]

You still need to have it as a library

[winter iron]

Ye

i do

just wondering whats the better way

ill just do the first

[half harness]

#development for coding help

[honest halo]

Ok thanks

[obtuse gale]

You're welcome

[prisma wave]

please don't take credit for my work.

You're welcome

[steel heart]

[half harness]

🤔

[hot hull]

How does a bungee config.yml file work for a plugin, since there's no saveDefaultConfig and shit how does one save it

[prisma wave]

The Hard Way ™️

with YamlConfiguration and files

etc

[hot hull]

Oh god

[obtuse gale]

getResource

Streams

Files

[surreal quarry]

triump config isn't specific to spigot is it

[ocean quartz]

Nah

[static zealot]

Someone tell me

if that looks right

for a minecraft server dns settup

not my domain so don't laugh at me

lmao

[prisma wave]

does it work

[obtuse gale]

spookycraft xDD

[static zealot]

yeah

and as @lavish notch said that's double spooky

because its .ro xD

[static zealot]

doesn't seem to

been waiting for like 30 minutes now I'll try once again

[lavish notch]

you missed a trick not making the sub-domain scary.spookcraft.ro to make it x3

[static zealot]

lmao

this is how the SRV looks https://i.imgur.com/yNbE33M.png

in case maybe I should change priority or wieght

[obtuse gale]

Hey @static zealot can we get a ?faq explaining why video tutorials are (more than often) bad? :d found a message on another discord and I think it could be very useful in here

what

[static zealot]

give me the message ...

[obtuse gale]

no

come get it you sucker

[static zealot]

ok then no you can't have a ?faq

[obtuse gale]

ok

[static zealot]

k bye

[obtuse gale]

deal

[half harness]

what

[obtuse gale]

wait no

[half harness]

what was that

sdasjhdiusahd

[obtuse gale]

Are videos to learn good?

Sort answer: No!
Long answer: almost never.

But why?

Programming videos can be split roughly into two broad categories :

• videos that aim at teaching a language, usually from scratch for people with no background in programming
• videos that aim to showcase a situation, a library or a framework (these are OK)

Video materials for learning a language, especially the multi hours ones, tends to have really low added value. Here's why:

• Firstly, the format is basically a lecture. This works in classes because you can ask the teacher direct questions. This not always possible or easy with video tutorials. This means that you are left to yourself the same way you would have been with a text tutorial

• Secondly, it is really helpful to be able to revisit a previous section of the material. This is really difficult with videos. Usually by the time the timecode has been found (especially in a 6h long video) the question / reason to check back went stale or maybe completely forgotten.
  Also to re-watch that portion you will have constantly do small jumps back in the timeline. On the other hand, with a text tutorial you can easily backtrack on a piece of text and read it as many times you find it useful

• Thirdly, it is also useful to be able to have two different sections open at the same time (because the latter refers to a previous notion for instance). This is downright impossible to do comfortably with videos. With a text based tutorial you can just open two tabs side by side and compare by reading

• Lastly, watching videos is a passive activity by nature. Classes tends to not to be by having direct questions to students or with lab times later on. Videos kinda have the second one, sometimes, but the first one is near impossible. Reading is a lot more active

On a final note, it will greatly depend on the video maker but it's a lot easier to copy and tinker with the code from a text tutorial than a video

[prisma wave]

hmmmmmmmm

[static zealot]

but fefo

I disagree

there are good videos

like the coursera ones

lmao

[obtuse gale]

there are good ones, yes

[static zealot]

also

you've seen the CodeNinja or whatever his channel is?

that guy has some good videos

[obtuse gale]

but most videos and literally all that "teach spigot" are.. trash

[static zealot]

let me find

[obtuse gale]

dude I'm not saying all videos are shit

holy fuck

don't add it then

k good night

[static zealot]

ah

TNN

the net ninja

I strongly disagree

:))))))

[onyx loom]

split roughly into two broad categories

the good videos are such a tiny portion they dont have a category 🥲

[obtuse gale]

well at least I made some xp with that message

so

yuh

was worth it nonetheless

[onyx loom]

lmao

[static zealot]

ok please

explain

Classes tends to not to be by having direct questions

is this correct? because idk english

and it sounds incorrect

[onyx loom]

full sentence?

[static zealot]

Classes tends to not to be by having direct questions to students or with lab times later on.

no I don't

[onyx loom]

sentence before?

[obtuse gale]

Yes, that is English

[static zealot]

Are videos to learn good

Programming videos can be split roughly into two broad categories :

• videos that aim at teaching a language, usually from scratch for people with no background in programming
• videos that aim to showcase a situation, a library or a framework (these are OK)

Video materials for learning a language, especially the multi hours ones, tends to have really low added value. Here's why:

• Firstly, the format is basically a lecture. This works in classes because you can ask the teacher direct questions. This not always possible or easy with video tutorials. This means that you are left to yourself the same way you would have been with a text tutorial

• Secondly, it is really helpful to be able to revisit a previous section of the material. This is really difficult with videos. Usually by the time the timecode has been found (especially in a 6h long video) the question / reason to check back went stale or maybe completely forgotten.
  Also to re-watch that portion you will have constantly do small jumps back in the timeline. On the other hand, with a text tutorial you can easily backtrack on a piece of text and read it as many times you find it useful

• Thirdly, it is also useful to be able to have two different sections open at the same time (because the latter refers to a previous notion for instance). This is downright impossible to do comfortably with videos. With a text based tutorial you can just open two tabs side by side and compare by reading

• Lastly, watching videos is a passive activity by nature. Classes tends to not to be by having direct questions to students or with lab times later on. Videos kinda have the second one, sometimes, but the first one is near impossible. Reading is a lot more active

On a final note, it will greatly depend on the video maker but it's a lot easier to copy and tinker with the code from a text tutorial than a video
@obtuse gale cool

xD

[obtuse gale]

You know what

Fuck off

[static zealot]

fuck

its over 2k

can't even paste it so I execute the command

can you make it shorter lmao

[obtuse gale]

Sure ig

[static zealot]

please do

thanks

doesn't even tell me how much over lmao

let me chgeck

check

2013

lmao

13 characters

please remove

thanks

[obtuse gale]

Sort answer: **__No!__**
Long answer: almost never.

Programming videos can be split roughly into two broad categories : 
- those that aim at __teaching a language__, usually from scratch for people with no background
- those that aim to __showcase a situation__, a library or a framework (these are **OK**)

Video materials for learning a language, **especially the multi hours ones**, tends to have really low added value. Here's why:

- Firstly, the format is basically a lecture. This works in classes because you can ask the teacher direct questions. This not always possible or easy with video tutorials. This means that you are left to yourself the same way you would have been with a text tutorial

- Secondly, it is really helpful to be able to revisit a previous section of the material. This is really difficult with videos. Usually by the time the timecode has been found (especially in a 6h long video) the question / reason to check back went stale or maybe completely forgotten.
Also to re-watch that portion you will have constantly do small jumps back in the timeline. On the other hand, with a text tutorial you can easily backtrack on a piece of text and read it as many times you find it useful

- Thirdly, it is also useful to be able to have two different sections open at the same time (because the latter refers to a previous notion for instance). This is downright impossible to do comfortably with videos. With a text based tutorial you can just open two tabs side by side and compare by reading

- Lastly, watching videos is a passive activity by nature. Classes tend to not to be by having direct questions to students or with lab times later on. Videos kinda have the second one, sometimes, but the first one is near impossible. Reading is a lot more active

On a final note, __it will greatly depend on the video maker__ but it's a lot easier to copy and tinker with the code from a text tutorial than a video```

code block cuz formatting c:

[static zealot]

something's wrong with discord

lmao

https://i.imgur.com/JH2xlyU.png

but it still crates a message.yml

[obtuse gale]

[static zealot]

idk mate

https://i.imgur.com/0yw6Syd.png

does it count spaces?

or new lines

[obtuse gale]

well yes

[static zealot]

ah yeah

the other only counts

characters

fuck

wait

I think I know

=faq

[compact perch]

@static zealot,

FAQ • Invalid Usage

=faq <key>
=faq <add/edit> <key> <message>
=faq delete <key>
=faq raw <key>
=faq list
?<faq key>

[static zealot]

nvm

that would only add

characters

maybe just leave it as a paste?

or make it 2 parts?

[obtuse gale]

I mean you could strip out the whole first bit

- those that aim at __teaching a language__, usually from scratch for people with no background
- those that aim to __showcase a situation__, a library or a framework (these are **OK**)

Video materials for learning a language, **especially the multi hours ones**, tends to have really low added value. Here's why:

- Firstly, the format is basically a lecture. This works in classes because you can ask the teacher direct questions. This not always possible or easy with video tutorials. This means that you are left to yourself the same way you would have been with a text tutorial

- Secondly, it is really helpful to be able to revisit a previous section of the material. This is really difficult with videos. Usually by the time the timecode has been found (especially in a 6h long video) the question / reason to check back went stale or maybe completely forgotten.
Also to re-watch that portion you will have constantly do small jumps back in the timeline. On the other hand, with a text tutorial you can easily backtrack on a piece of text and read it as many times you find it useful

- Thirdly, it is also useful to be able to have two different sections open at the same time (because the latter refers to a previous notion for instance). This is downright impossible to do comfortably with videos. With a text based tutorial you can just open two tabs side by side and compare by reading

- Lastly, watching videos is a passive activity by nature. Classes tend to not to be by having direct questions to students or with lab times later on. Videos kinda have the second one, sometimes, but the first one is near impossible. Reading is a lot more active

On a final note, __it will greatly depend on the video maker__ but it's a lot easier to copy and tinker with the code from a text tutorial than a video```

[static zealot]

ok

name it pls-no

is that good? xD

[obtuse gale]

lmao sure ig

[static zealot]

done

?pls-no

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

Programming videos can be split roughly into two broad categories :

• those that aim at teaching a language, usually from scratch for people with no background
• those that aim to showcase a situation, a library or a framework (these are OK)

Video materials for learning a language, especially the multi hours ones, tends to have really low added value. Here's why:

• Firstly, the format is basically a lecture. This works in classes because you can ask the teacher direct questions. This not always possible or easy with video tutorials. This means that you are left to yourself the same way you would have been with a text tutorial

• Secondly, it is really helpful to be able to revisit a previous section of the material. This is really difficult with videos. Usually by the time the timecode has been found (especially in a 6h long video) the question / reason to check back went stale or maybe completely forgotten.
  Also to re-watch that portion you will have constantly do small jumps back in the timeline. On the other hand, with a text tutorial you can easily backtrack on a piece of text and read it as many times you find it useful

• Thirdly, it is also useful to be able to have two different sections open at the same time (because the latter refers to a previous notion for instance). This is downright impossible to do comfortably with videos. With a text based tutorial you can just open two tabs side by side and compare by reading

• Lastly, watching videos is a passive activity by nature. Classes tend to not to be by having direct questions to students or with lab times later on. Videos kinda have the second one, sometimes, but the first one is near impossible. Reading is a lot more active

On a final note, it will greatly depend on the video maker but it's a lot easier to copy and tinker with the code from a text tutorial than a video

Requested by: BlitzGamer_88 • pls-no

[static zealot]

this is quite

the text wall

[static zealot]

so anyone got any ideas please? thanks

like it doesn't work

at all

[obtuse gale]

Sounds terrible

[static zealot]

hmm

[obtuse gale]

New SSD arrived

[onyx loom]

pog

[static zealot]

fucking hell

ptero

is saying that the server is running

but when I try connecting to the ip

doesn't work at all

lmaoooo

[lavish notch]

Blitz is hella smart - IQ 1000

[static zealot]

never said I'm smart

lmao

just leaking private messages smh

lmaoooo

but still

that didn't help at all

so its not that MM

[half harness]

thats localhost

127.0.0.1 is localhost

[static zealot]

ye I changed to 0.0.0.0

lmao

[obtuse gale]

you can do shit like this <T extends Foo & Bar>????????????

why did no one ever told me that???????

[static zealot]

you don't deserve to know

[obtuse gale]

not like I'll ever use it but OMG

[steel heart]

Ah weak

But you have to declare the class first iirc then interfaces or smtng

[obtuse gale]

What

[steel heart]

Pretty sure you’d have to type <T extends Event & Cancellable> other way around won’t work or if it was the opposite

[obtuse gale]

I mean it's just like when you make a class, it can only extend one class/abstract class but implement any number of interfaces, same thing applies in that

Out of all the "extends", one only can be abstract class/class and the rest itercafes

Interfaces

[steel heart]

Ofc

[steel heart]

But what if interface Foo {} and class Bar {}

[obtuse gale]

Yes

[steel heart]

No

[obtuse gale]

Ok

[steel heart]

Nok

[hot heron]

@quick flume I found a good use case for the lambda functions like that

module.exports = {
   decay: (a, b, c) => (a * b) / (a + c),
   intervalAdd: (a, b, c) => b + Math.floor(a / c),
   decayMulti: (a, b, c) => 1 + ((a * b) / (a + c)),
   bigBase: (a, b, c) => b + c * a,
   log: (num) => Math.log(Math.max(num, 1)) / 2.303,
};```

Works really nicely for the disc bot i'm working on

[forest pecan]

that

exists??

[obtuse gale]

lmao yes

[forest pecan]

so

like it allows

both?

[obtuse gale]

so it has to be a class that implements both, yes

[forest pecan]

Yeah

[obtuse gale]

Found it in here lol https://google.github.io/styleguide/javaguide.html#s4.5.1-line-wrapping-where-to-break

point one

[forest pecan]

interface ThickConsumer<A,B,C,D,E,F,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z> {
  void accept(A a, B b, C c, D d, E e, F f, H h, I i, J j, K k, L l, M m, N n, O o, P p, Q q, R r, S s, T t, U u, V v, W w, X x, Y y, Z z, A a, B b, C c, D d, E e, F f, H h, I i, J j, K k, L l, M m, N n, O o, P p, Q q, R r, S s, T t, U u, V v, W w, X x, Y y, Z z);
}

^^ just in case if you forget the alphabet

[obtuse gale]

oh god

[forest pecan]

what happens after Z tho

like actually

can you have more than 26 types of those generics

i dont think you can

cause java will think its an actual class

but you can make an extra class

[obtuse gale]

Z<ThickConsumer> :]

[forest pecan]

which has more generics

Oh

Or that

Lmfao

[half harness]

What is mojang_1.16.4.jar and patched_1.16.4.jar?

(in cache folder of paper minecraft server)
Anyone know?

[quiet depot]

u can have more than 26 type params

[obtuse gale]

is there a limit?

[quiet depot]

it’s convention for them to be a single capitalized letter, but it’s not enforced

idk fefo

[quick flume]

oh nice @hot heron

[obtuse gale]

"mojang" is the vanilla server jar, "patched" is the modded one

[half harness]

wdym "modded one"

[obtuse gale]

paper

[half harness]

bc i thought all the modded code was in paper.jar

[obtuse gale]

craftbukkit + spigot + paper

the paper jar you download is not the actual server jar

that is illegal to distribute lol

[half harness]

wait so does "patched" have everything in "mojang"?

[obtuse gale]

so what they do instead is give you a jar that has the modifications to apply to the vanilla jar

[obtuse gale]

correct, it is the vanilla jar + bukkit/spigot/paper modifications

[half harness]

ah okay

wait then what's the point of the mojang jar

since patched has everything in it anyways

[obtuse gale]

they first download it when you run the paper.jar, and on top of that one apply the modifications

[half harness]

ohh

thxthx!

anyone know a good obfuscating tool

[obtuse gale]

they are borderline useless tho

look at minecraft, it was always released obfuscated and that didn't stop people from making obfuscation maps for modding

[half harness]

still

obfuscated > not obfuscated