Theres github
#dev-general
ocean quartz
The official github app sucks though
prisma wave
somewhat new
ocean quartz
There are a many github apps, the official has been out for a year or two i think
lunar cypress
not that long
forest pecan
oh
steel heart
if any1 wants to bully me here https://github.com/Conclure/EnhancedBukkitScheduler idk need some feedback
prisma wave
void cancelTask(
int rawId
);```
please nougly
old wyvern
How is it enhanced?
prisma wave
I am pretty sure any style guide would say you shouldn't have that unless you have a lot of parameters
old wyvern
Android view pivots are so random...
steel heart
Yugi the enhancements is that it can take either a consumer or a runnable and will always return a task
prisma wave
Consider moving some of the static classes into their own files
steel heart
compared to the BukkitScheduler that returns void for a consumer
hmm okay
why though
does it hurt performance?
steel heart
okay ik srp
prisma wave
well srp is technically fine since their are all individual classes
steel heart
oh lets go
prisma wave
but still
old wyvern
Yugi the enhancements is that it can take either a consumer or a runnable and wi...
Thats all?
steel heart
ye
prisma wave
the Id class is a bit strange, it doesn't seem to be an id at all?
old wyvern
oh ok
steel heart
hmm true, maybe TaskNamespace or smtng
prisma wave
tbh if that's all it does you're probably better just adding a few static helpers, rather than making an entirely new interface
old wyvern
Id suggest adding something like chaining or something
steel heart
uh sure like taskchain thing?
steel heart
tbh if that's all it does you're probably better just adding a few static helper...
yes but apparently "using interfaces will make your code easier" some dude in tsc said
forest pecan
Yo
steel heart
yo
forest pecan
YouMeThemTheyUs
prisma wave
Yes interfaces are good, but it's more a question of compatibility here
forest pecan
Yugi is a handsome man
old wyvern
Yes it does but just because you have a hammer doesnt mean we have to hit everything with it
prisma wave
Introducing things that isn't compatible with the existing interfaces could be annoying to deal with
prisma wave
So I'd either couple stuff with the bukkit scheduler, or have adapters
steel heart
yeah sadly no kotlin, but will be my next project :]
gracias @old wyvern y @prisma wave :)))))))
prisma wave
de rien
ocean quartz
Not much into allman but looks very hot
prisma wave
why thank you
i don't mind either
allman just happens to be the default for me
imagine if kotlin had currying
that would be hot
val user = fetchUser(uuid) ?: User().apply(users.put(uuid))
frail glade
Damn, that's hot.
prisma wave
intellij and kotlin is amazing
^^ above code instead of ```kotlin
val user = fetchUser(uuid) ?: User().apply {
users[uuid] = this
}
I'm thinking I'm going to do a deeper dive on databases over my break.
prisma wave
Sounds useful, I should probably do the same
I usually end up falling back on intellij syntax checking for SQL queries lol
ocean quartz
Same, i wanna make a lib similar to Android's Dao
old wyvern
Matt how familiar are you with Android?
ocean quartz
Not much, i've done a few apps, but only simple things
old wyvern
uh any idea relative to what the absolute pivot should be?
I tried absoltue coordinates but theres a very random offset depending on the device im running it on
ocean quartz
Idk, sorry
The design stuff is so complicated
old wyvern
😦
ocean quartz
I think you could use JBCefBrowser and create it with CSS and HTML
old wyvern
I cant really change the entire structure now, Have to submit this tmr
prof just told us today that he wants a fucking eiffel tower outside the compass circle denoting the same angle as the center one
I guess time to do it the hacky way and increase the height to the circles height
prisma wave
https://img.bristermitten.me/22-03-31.png sorry for interrupting, but I made currying in kotlin :)
Task :CurryingKt.main()
{Hello=3}
hot
remote goblet
Tasty
prisma wave
ikr
lunar cypress
currying with side effects 
prisma wave
sorry lol
this example doesn't even work for my use case since it doesn't return Unit 😭
frail glade
I like sql but relational stuff just gets me sometimes
Like storing collections and whatnot
prisma wave
yeah I usually just get an ORM to handle all that
not worth the effort most of the time
frail glade
Yeah but that doesn't make it relational, right?
prisma wave
Depends on the ORM I think
But Hibernate definitely does
it sets up joining tables, proper mappings and things all automatically
ocean quartz
I love working on relationships and stuff, I always make a diagram with everything i'll need
lavish notch
how can I disable mob AI, but allow for it to take knockback and like flow in water/liquids?
(1.8)
frail glade
What do you usually use elara? Got any repo examples? I was looking at hibernate the other day but didn't find anything that I liked enough
lavish notch
D:
remote goblet
I don’t think you can do that honestly Mack without dumb shit
prisma wave
What do you usually use elara? Got any repo examples? I was looking at hibernate...
I've rarely actually done relational stuff outside of Spring or Hibernate, because it's annoying, so not really no - for one commission a while ago relationships were super complex so I just gave up and pdm'd Hibernate
lavish notch
<@!287874798049165313> thats different methods iirc
well... how do I do it?
I know I could do like slowness, and huge jump-boost but then it won't take fall-damage
frail glade
No no no elara I mean do you have a repo example of hibernate? All the ones I found were outdated and never worked when I tried.
Or they all required spring
prisma wave
oh right
yeah, it's a commission but I can extract the relevant bits
it's fairly similar to with Spring, just with a bit more initial setup
thankfully no XML
frail glade
Yeah that's what I was wanting to avoid
I want to just have a plugin that I can do ORM with hibernate without the stupid XML file.
Just build the client and pull from a yml config for db information
prisma wave
Yeah, that's possible
oak raft
lol just realized that github didn't have dark mode until now kekw
prisma wave
https://paste.helpch.at/hetodasuci.bash
https://paste.helpch.at/ezalupekan.cpp
This is pretty much what I used, it's surprisingly simple. You have a bit of boilerplate to initialise hibernate, but after that it's pretty much as simple as adding the annotations and processing a few transactions
although you have to do relationship mapping yourself (making sure Collections are initialised in the right order, etc) which can take a bit of time
prisma wave
Java 
np
I've not checked that code in a while so it's possibly outdated or broken, ping me if that's the case
ocean quartz
In cases of something like GSON, it's pretty negligible difference between having a new instance be created every time it's used vs having it as a top level constant right?
prisma wave
yeah afaik making a Gson is cheap, but the convention is to have a constant
since it's verbose with all the options
steel heart
why not just make a static singleton then
ocean quartz
Just asking because i have a similar situation with a different object, i have this object which is an expansion and currently i have it as a constant, but i think i'll need to change it to be new every time with different player, so was wondering how different i'd be
500 times creating a new instance 9.0396µs
500 times with one object declared 8.4124µs
500 times with top level 16.1078µs on first test then 8.5778µs on second
Not sure why the first top level run was that different
prisma wave
Initial initialisation properly
Since top level is basically static, they get initialised on class loading
So initial access is probably slower
Tbh that seems too neglible to make a difference
old wyvern
was this in kotlin?
ocean quartz
What is odd is that it was like 2 different runs, like the process completely exited between the runs .-.
ocean quartz
Tbh that seems too neglible to make a difference
Yeah agree
ocean quartz
was this in kotlin?
Yeah
ocean quartz
My "totally scientific" testing environment
old wyvern
god
prisma wave
500 times but dividing by 1000?
old wyvern
nano to micro?
ocean quartz
The average is being divided by 1k to convert to micro
prisma wave
Oh right
prisma wave
Didn't see the average() 🤦
old wyvern
Placed it in center and added a y translation and it kinda works now
ocean quartz
Oooh nice!
I always hated working with the designer of android, could never get things to look how i wanted
ocean quartz
CSS gives more control which is nice, using JBCef is actually pretty nice
But slower in most cases i think
old wyvern
Whats JBCef?
ocean quartz
Basically a virtual browser
Instead of designing an app you design a website and it'll open like an app
ocean quartz
That looks awesome!
obtuse gale
I look awesome 
steel heart
Nice eifffffffaaaal tower oui oui baguette
old wyvern
wha xD
steel heart
@forest pecan
@forest pecan
public boolean isCurrentlyRunning(int taskId) {
return scheduler.isCurrentlyRunning(taskId);
}
@forest pecan
public boolean isCurrentlyRunning(ScheduledTaskId id) {
Objects.requireNonNull(id,"id cannot be null");
return scheduler.isCurrentlyRunning(id.getRawId());
}
@forest pecan
public boolean isCurrentlyRunning(ScheduledTask task) {
Objects.requireNonNull(task,"task cannot be null");
return scheduler.isCurrentlyRunning(task.getTaskId().getRawId());
}
@forest pecan
public boolean isQueued(int taskId) {
return scheduler.isQueued(taskId);
}
@forest pecan
public boolean isQueued(ScheduledTaskId id) {
Objects.requireNonNull(id,"id cannot be null");
return scheduler.isQueued(id.getRawId());
}
@forest pecan
public boolean isQueued(ScheduledTask task) {
Objects.requireNonNull(task,"task cannot be null");
return scheduler.isQueued(task.getTaskId().getRawId());
}
oops
forest pecan
static zealot
:)))))
forest pecan
Kek
half harness
btw 1 message = 1 ping
😛
10 pings in 1 message = 1 ping
100 pings in 1 message = 1 ping
1000 pings in 1 message = 1 ping
10000 pings in 1 message = 1 ping
100000 pings in 1 message = 1 ping
static zealot
yes we know
half harness
👍
lapis dawn
oh god
static zealot
yo @obtuse gale you finished day 8 as well?
lapis dawn
Does anyone have any good ideas for very basic starter plugins? (sorry for the interruption)
static zealot
starter plugins? as in plugins to start a server?
please ask in #general-plugins
if you don't mind
lapis dawn
As in simple plugins to code
half harness
....
static zealot
oh
lapis dawn
xD
lapis dawn
like very simple
lapis dawn
I personally have made myself a couple plugins, but am just thinking of ideas
static zealot
and expensive xD
lapis dawn
https://github.com/PiggyPiglet/Challenges/
this is great thanks
half harness
Develop an anti-cheat. For every hack, think about how the hacker's behavior differs from a normal's user (eg. for speed hacks, a normal user moves only X blocks per seconds while a hacker may move faster). This is a very hard task and needs extensive testing.
oh noo
static zealot
already done that
lapis dawn
never done that, and don't plan on making an anticheat
half harness
same
static zealot
:))
lapis dawn
expect them to be huge pains
static zealot
they are
big plugins usually are
that's why I don't like Cores. I like having everything in smaller plugins. Easier to keep track
lapis dawn
lol, my only plugin that I've made is a nick extension sorta plugin, that attaches your nick to your tab name and above your name, ex name (username)
static zealot
I made quite a few
but only public ones on spigot
are a GiveAll (pretty cool plugin tbh), RandomTeleport and WorldTeleport
lapis dawn
mm nice, whats the difference between world and random teleport?
static zealot
and I have a BountySystem that was meant for my server but to bored to work on it which is public on github
forest pecan
i actually want to develop an anti-dupe plugin
static zealot
its more like per world spawnpoints
half harness
Anyone have any plugin ideas that don't already exist
lapis dawn
ah
lapis dawn
@half harness make a good nickname plugin with bunch of features
static zealot
:))
half harness
<@!521485088995672084> make a good nickname plugin with bunch of features
Nicknamer
lapis dawn
I know they exist, but I haven't found one that appends your nickname to your username in tab and above your name
so I just made one for myself, but its super jank
static zealot
well I mean that's like super easy
static zealot
ugh
half harness
setDisplayName
static zealot
lmao
lapis dawn
lmao
static zealot
getDisplayName
static zealot
and then you set their tab list name or whatever its called to name dispalyname
ocean quartz
Ugh my brain, need to think about how to make a good pinging system
lapis dawn
i intercepted player protocols and updated teams
static zealot
on join lmao
half harness
dispalyname
static zealot
wdym Matt?
half harness
i intercepted player protocols and updated teams
hUh?
forest pecan
I have a controversial question. Do you consider a plugin which has /home to "affect" vanilla behavior
half harness
I have a controversial question. Do you consider a plugin which has /home to "af...
no, it's just teleporting to a saved location
forest pecan
no not that
forest pecan
im not trying to say interferes with vanilla features
like if you are trying to have the
half harness
oh
static zealot
Ugh my brain, need to think about how to make a good pinging system
Take chat message, split it by spaces, go for each message and if it starts with @ check if the rest is a player name. if it is maybe change the chat message so that the ping is colored and send a sound to the player that is pinged
static zealot
ez pz :))
static zealot
oh
make a public paginated holograms plugin
the only one that I know of that can do that is CMI so far
half harness
make a public paginated holograms plugin
what?
half harness
wait
lapis dawn
discord deals with the pinging system basically being clientside right? Or atleast in converting pings to <@> standard, I think
half harness
what is paginated
static zealot
and when you click them you change the page
half harness
the only one that I know of that can do that is CMI so far
TouchscreenHolograms
it can already do it
static zealot
ye but you can't change the holograms..
ocean quartz
wdym Matt?
Just need to figure a good way to make it simple and useful on an API
ocean quartz
what ye improving on?
Well the showcase one was just a test, it's not fully implemented yet
static zealot
ye then I won't be helpful at all
lapis dawn
hm, so like have events fired on user ping?
static zealot
back to my plugin then
lapis dawn
or have plugin messages sent that ping users?
ocean quartz
Yup
lapis dawn
you trying to think of nice ways to implement these events that work well without error?
XD
ocean quartz
No, just a way that doesn't feel complicated to maintain
lapis dawn
hm, I haven't worked with plugins in a while...
ocean quartz
Take chat message, split it by spaces, go for each message and if it starts with...
A little more complicated than that xD
https://github.com/TriumphDev/chat/blob/development/main/src/main/kotlin/me/mattstudios/triumphchat/extensions/parser/PingParser.kt
ocean quartz
Kotlin
ocean quartz
It's beautiful
lapis dawn
can you use regex, or would it be less efficient?
ocean quartz
Less efficient yeah
Ping detection works fine already, that's not the issue, it's just setting up the actual pinging
lapis dawn
you could probably make it more efficient by first searching if a @ was mentioned in the whole message, then searching through
you looking for ideas for the actual pinging, or implementations?
ocean quartz
Like, let me try explaining my thought process
I need: get ping's literal from the node, check if it's a valid player, group, or everyone, if it's a player pass down the player that was pinged, if the player is already pinged do not add it to the list again, set all the pinging when the message is created, then send them all when the message is sent
lapis dawn
Ping Ideas:
- Default XP pling sound
- possibly change default text color from white to yellow for pinged user only (so like modifying all &r to have an additional &e ahead)
- you probably already have 1 and other stuff
ocean quartz
Oh that part is all configurable
lapis dawn
yeah
static zealot
Matt just wanted to thank you for your time
lapis dawn
so where you mention if the player is already pinged do not add it to the list again, you probably still want to highlight both mentions
lapis dawn
noicee
ocean quartz
Matt just wanted to thank you for your time
Hmm? xD
ocean quartz
Wdym? xD
static zealot
your commands and gui frameworks
ocean quartz
Yeah
lapis dawn
How hard is kotlin to learn, and would you recommend it instead of learning plain java to use for plugins? (unrelated to the above topics lmao)
lapis dawn
ok xd
static zealot
I made the mistake of falling for this
lapis dawn
I mean thankfully I know java already
ocean quartz
did you make that one public?
id "me.mattstudios.triumph" version "0.1.6"
static zealot
All kotlin tutorials like all assume you know java
lapis dawn
oof
ocean quartz
Meh, it's the same thing, personally learning Kotlin first will give you a better understanding of Java later on
static zealot
ah ty Matt.
static zealot
Matt if you don't have a lot of programming knowledge I think its better to learn java
forest pecan
lol
static zealot
before kotlin
ocean quartz
Why though?
forest pecan
Kotlin isn't used as popular
static zealot
because Java is so much more documented. Like I know kotlin has everything on their docs
but still
forest pecan
i cant say that is a con
lapis dawn
also if you're wondering why I'm asking all these questions, I intern at a company thats thinking about teaching mc modding/plugins
lapis dawn
secret
ocean quartz
I mean if you learn Kotlin you'll understand Java basically by default
ocean quartz
So the lack of documentation doesn't change much
lapis dawn
yeah, I pushed the idea to them since I didn't see it being done anywhere else basically, and seems like something lots would be interested in
static zealot
well for me is not like that Matt. I'm a bad learner unfortunately and I have a very bad memory.
lapis dawn
one thing I found hard about java when I started was the weird documentation
ocean quartz
That's fair
lapis dawn
like javadocs in comparizon to mozilla js docs are terrible
ocean quartz
The big issue with Java is the boilerplate
@NotNull
private final String text = "";
private val text = ""
yeah, its more higher level than, js or python
Matt, for your pinging system, do you have the message like change color to indicate that you were pinged from that message?
obtuse gale
yo <@456226577798135808> you finished day 8 as well?
Yeah the entire thing took me about 40 minutes to an hour I think
obtuse gale
Understanding the internals of a CPU sure did help a bunch
obtuse gale
Lol
ocean quartz
Matt, for your pinging system, do you have the message like change color to indi...
Unfortunately that wouldn't work well
However i could make it so you'd see your ping as a different color than everyone else 
obtuse gale
Make it so that if you get pinged you can click it to ping the sender cc:
ocean quartz
It'll be customization ;p
lapis dawn
I wonder how hard it would be to make a color parser
when reading just a direct chat message, how are the colors stored
ocean quartz
Wasn't too bad to make ;p
https://mf.mattstudios.me/message/mf-msg/syntax
lapis dawn
just through the unicode & sign?
oop, are those the docs for the plugin?
if so they look amazing
ocean quartz
For the lib I made which I use on the plugin
static zealot
yes
lapis dawn
so basically yes
ocean quartz
xD
static zealot
k bye
lapis dawn
is gitbook a paid thing you're using?
ocean quartz
It's free but there is a paid version
I have the paid version for free because of Open Source 🥺
lapis dawn
I'm looking at the prices, and what are the "spaces" in it
static zealot
The spaces are basically the wikis
static zealot
?paste
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
lapis dawn
thats text paste
static zealot
Matt's frameworks wikis are all on one space
lapis dawn
whatever I have an uploader at hand https://i.imgur.com/1y3m8f3.png
static zealot
you can make another space with another link
oh didn't even see that
that's pretty cool
of them to do
lapis dawn
yeah ikr
ocean quartz
Yeah OS can get it free ;p
lapis dawn
pretty pog; might use it for a pb2 project
surreal quarry
open source
static zealot
Matt's frameworks
lapis dawn
open source
surreal quarry
lol
normal talon
oh yea also xd
ocean quartz
My libs have given me Gitbook, IntelliJ ultimate (and all the other IDE), and a few other things for free
static zealot
wait IIJ U for free because you have OS things?
lapis dawn
github student developer pack is pog
ocean quartz
static zealot
oh
ocean quartz
ocean quartz
OS is awesome
lapis dawn
yeah, thats nice
surreal quarry
gh dark is so hot
ocean quartz
Don't like the color scheme of the code too much, but it's pretty nice yeah
static zealot
hmm why not? I think it looks alright. I'm talking and I still use the defaults in IIJ lmao
ocean quartz
I guess it's because i was used to my stylus theme
static zealot
I already forgot how it looked lmao
normal talon
I use ocean
static zealot
hmm ye Stylus ain't bad
normal talon
or something
ocean quartz
Ocean is nice but way too much green
I wonder if i can make a stylus to make it look like atom one dark :pog:
surreal quarry
whats the little IJ logo on your github?
ocean quartz
JetBrains toolbox extension
Basically i can click it and it'll clone it to IJ
But it's a bit buggy so hardly use it
lapis dawn
gh dark is pog
literally just turned on dark reader yesterday looking for dark ui, and they got it today
obtuse gale
aaa yes, my project is IntelliJ
ocean quartz
I see, you're working at jetbrains now
ocean quartz
Why am i still awake, what is life
obtuse gale
Can IJ convert from groovy gradle to kotlin gradle dsl thingo?
ocean quartz
Don't think so
Why do you want Kotlin gradle?
obtuse gale
its just what ive used for this project lol
This is what im tryna do and its giving me errors....
Ever since I switched from gradle groovy to gradle kotlin I get no false warnings and errors due to stupid IntelliJ not liking groovy 
ocean quartz
The dumb warnings got fixed in 2020.3, they were annoying me too
static zealot
just update 4head
ocean quartz
He 100% has the Kotlin plugin wrong
That isn't a warning it's a straight up error xD
obtuse gale
And I once had literally the entire build.gradle underlined red with half the words red too and it built just fine :^)
No restarts fixed it
And it was that single project
Always
ocean quartz
It used to be awful, haven't had any issue with latest update though
obtuse gale
I can't tell because I moved away from groovy 
ocean quartz
Aj what is the error?
torn rose
did you define role and what it should do in terms of web01?
jovial warren
anyone here remember how to configure Atom OneDark to not look trash? lol
been way too long since I've used IJ
currently looks like this
looks way too dark for me, I remember it looking different when I used to use it
and yes, that is Windows, cba to have to switch back and forth lol
obtuse gale
how make js download imag from url if not alreay downloadedpls thx
old wyvern
jovial warren
aternos? server.pro? any of those?
if you want a good Minecraft server, you'll have to pay for it unfortunately
unless you run it from home
@prisma wave looks pretty bad ngl
jovial warren
it'll work yeah
8GB is fine, until you start using poorly optimised plugins and have more players
livid charm
Do you think paper would be ok for it or just stay vanilla?
jovial warren
Paper is what 99% of the big servers use so I would highly recommend Paper
livid charm
8GB is fine, until you start using poorly optimised plugins and have more player...
Myb about 2-6 players with a couple of plugins for moderation etc
jovial warren
then you'll be absolutely fine
livid charm
Ok thx
jovial warren
you're welcome
jovial warren
what?
lavish notch
I’m planning to get a Rapberry Pi 4b 8Gb RAM to host one
@livid charm if you're gonna run a public MC server, don't use a PI.
livid charm
@lavish notch private with people I know
I’m getting a domain with ddos protection to connect to it for protection too
lavish notch
Ehh... I mean the CPU will throttle it
I've ran a MC server on one, for testing purposes - and you can't explore very far before it starts lagging.
Especially with 1.16
lunar cypress
Yeah, pis are not meant for game servers
prisma wave
<@!266973575225933824> looks pretty bad ngl
smoky crypt
i once did a bukkit server on my pi
only i have the cheapo 512mb ram edition so you can figure how that went
in short: it could barely handle one player, but thats about it
prisma wave
ooh
I've not checked it in a while
This is good news
Nah, Electron has effectively killed Qt. Qt is quite legacy nowadays to be honest.
lunar cypress
lol
I think so far this is my favourite thing that has been shared there https://medium.com/better-programming/modern-languages-suck-ad21cbc8a57c
lunar cypress
I just love the ratings and verdicts
No mention of Kotlin or Clojure unfortunately
But the rest is funny enough
prisma wave
This is already a shitshow
languages with null are bad because they break compile time type checking
Uses JavaScript as an example
It almost mentions Clojure, there's a rich hickey quote
lunar cypress
C++ Speed: Slow compile time but runs fast 👎
Rust Speed: Slow compile time but runs fast 👍
probably some quote where he's bashing oop?
hahaha
prisma wave
pretty much lmao
There's some very obvious FP bias here
Not that that's necessarily a problem, but java gets downvoted just for being object oriented lmao
prisma wave
Indeed
I'm curious what he considers a good object oriented language
Because Java and C++ apparently aren't, so maybe Smalltalk?
old wyvern
welp
prisma wave
In comparison, NPM in JavaScript is the only tool you’ll ever need.
Is this a joke
This can't be serious
half harness
oop
prisma wave
Babel, some web packager, probably typescript, angular / react CLI, sass, etc
The only tool?
jovial warren
npm is probably one of the worst tools
not npm itself, but the way things are designed with it
these single-line dependencies
old wyvern
@prisma wave oof
prisma wave
Elara had it first
prisma wave
Writing even a simple “hello world” program in Haskell requires understanding of Monads (IO Monads in particular).
Eh, not really. Sure you need them later but a simple hello world doesn't even have any types
static zealot
Ic
static zealot
then I'm not cool because I've never heard of that language 😦
prisma wave
It's what discord uses for its backend
It does look good tbf, incredibly efficient at using multiple threads
static zealot
ye that's why I'm saying I'm not cool... because I didn't hear about it but if you say its good then good it is lmao
old wyvern
Doesnt discord use rust?
prisma wave
I believe the backend is a mixture of Elixir and Rust
They used to use Go but GC spikes were killing them
old wyvern
ah
lunar cypress
the bad thing about this article is that the author clearly hasn't used half of the languages he's writing about
obtuse gale
Interesting stuff, gson loads maps and numbers as linkedtreemaps and doubles, whereas snakeyaml loads them as linkedhashmaps and doubles or integers where applicable
prisma wave
the bad thing about this article is that the author clearly hasn't used half of ...
Are you really surprised by that?
Also day 8 part 2 is so difficult wtf
lunar cypress
Are you really surprised by that?
no, not really
What lang are you doing day 8 in?
obtuse gale
eeh it was a bit hard to think of an algo for part 2 but it wasn't that difficult to implement
prisma wave
Yeah that's what I was thinking
I just gave up after I realised I didn't know how "strings" worked
Ima try C with Day 9
obtuse gale
lol c strings
prisma wave
Exactly
lunar cypress
can't help you with very specific things as I'm a beginner myself but if you're curious about how to do certain basic things in C feel free to ask
lunar cypress
my solution for that day was a kind of a mess but not necessarily bad for C's standards
Also, I've been using this website pretty much exclusively so far https://en.cppreference.com/w/, can recommend it
prisma wave
For part 2 of 8, can't you just check that if an instruction has already been executed, then it's reached the end of the pass therefore it's looping?
Okay I'll have a look
lunar cypress
For part 2 of 8, can't you just check that if an instruction has already been ex...
that's more of a part 1 question, isn't it? but yes, you can
prisma wave
It's what I'm doing for part 1, yeah
obtuse gale
Also, I've been using this website pretty much exclusively so far https://en.cpp...
that site 👌 is dope
prisma wave
But I feel like it wouldn't work for part 2, because there could be a point that causes a loop further down
obtuse gale
literally the only site I refer to when needing help with C/C++
prisma wave
I can't think of a way of reliably determining it that doesn't involve brute forcing
lunar cypress
For part 2 of 8, can't you just check that if an instruction has already been ex...
I did it by ||having an array of ints of the same length as the instructions and writing 1 to the corresponding index after having visited an instruction||
obtuse gale
I can't think of a way of reliably determining it that doesn't involve brute for...
yep, that's what I did
lunar cypress
I didn't brute force it completely, you can narrow it down
but it doesn't take too long either way
obtuse gale
I ended up literally running the program until an "address" is hit again, changing one instruction per loop
i.e. brute forcing
prisma wave
That's pretty much what I have at the moment
lunar cypress
what I did for that part was ||tracking the jmp and nop instructions I encountered while running it normally and only changing these to check||
prisma wave
I read the question wrong and thought you just had to swap the second to last instruction
autumn tapir
something I'm thinking of is arg validation
I want to make it easy to handle arg validation with my plugin Velt
(Velt allows you to use JS to make Spigot scripts)
these are the two options i'm considering, both have upsides and downsides
//Option One
manager.command({
name: 'cmd',
args: [
'string',
{ type: 'number', optional: true }
],
run(sender, text, num) {
}
});
//Option Two
manager.command('cmd <string> [<number>]', (sender, text, num) => {
});
Alright yeah that was easy, brute forcing always works
lunar cypress
Originally I thought you needed to replace any number of instructions that's why I didn't even pay it one thought
jovial warren
@prisma wave C strings are easy lol
once you just google and find out that they're literally just arrays of characters, like in every other language
except for in C, you don't have an actual string type to wrap the array of characters
prisma wave
I know how they work, but working with them sucks
jovial warren
yeah it's a bit of a pain
prisma wave
I was dealing with a 2d char array and I just couldn't be bothered
jovial warren
I gave up on C once I found out that static meant local variable lol
prisma wave
Doesn't static mean global?
light venture
never
jovial warren
not from what I read
lunar cypress
static means it's bound to the file
lunar cypress
and yeah p much "global" to the file I think
jovial warren
the word static really throws you off
prisma wave
I mean it's not that different to Java's static
lunar cypress
like such abominations are possible ```c
void foo() {
static int x = 42;
}
void bar() {
printf("Wtf %d\n", x);
}```
jovial warren
true I guess
prisma wave
Just a more procedural implementation
jovial warren
looks like C to me lol
prisma wave
But yeah, just getting a dynamically sized char array for the parse stage was pretty much where I gave up
lunar cypress
Well that's not the worst
Just count the lines of the file
and malloc an array of the line count
jovial warren
Oh also, this server I work for has this idea of splitting one larger server up in to a server per-world system. Just to confirm, this is complete bogus isn't it
prisma wave
Uh what
jovial warren
what I mean by per-world is having each world be a separate server to help with load balancing
prisma wave
and `malloc` an array of the line count
Yeah in retrospect that would've worked
Isn't that what the Aether engine or whatever does?
jovial warren
I think it's complete bogus but I want to make sure that's a shared opinion lol
now, time to see if I've still got it
I haven't made a Spigot plugin in a few months lol
though I think programming is one of those skills that's a bit like riding a bike, you never really forget how to do it
prisma wave
Tell that to everyone in development that says "yeah I learned Java but I've forgotten how to make a variable"
/s
prisma wave
Scary
obtuse gale
unordered set
prisma wave
And they say rust is hard to learn
C programmers have to write their own hash tables 🥶
obtuse gale
"c Is eASiEr tO LeARn tHAn C++"
lunar cypress
yes.
prisma wave
It is
obtuse gale
tsk
prisma wave
C just presumably requires a different approach to most problems
lunar cypress
as a language, it still isn't harder than others
but yes, the standard library for instance is... limited
prisma wave
"library" is something of an exaggeration
lunar cypress
tried writing a hash table for day 7 but no success so far
prisma wave
no idea how Linux is written in C
lunar cypress
or rather, I was very fed up with that challenge and when I started my program and immediately got a segfault I kinda just gave up
prisma wave
I feel like you'd hit a roadblock after trying to anything too complex
lunar cypress
bro, now imagine that before C took over you'd write OSs in assembly
jovial warren
things could be worse yeah
even though C is kinda annoying to work with sometimes, and is very low-level, it's definitely better than assembly
prisma wave
Lisp
distant sun
C :(
prisma wave
Kinda crazy how they were able to make dynamically typed lisp machines before C was a thing
Like lisp existed before the moon landing
lunar cypress
I don't think so, at least not on such a scale
But I mean also in terms of computing
distant sun
Weird tbh
onyx loom
moon landing was fake 🙂
lunar cypress
moon landing was real but we're not being told the truth about what's on the moon 🙂
onyx loom
🥶
lunar cypress
The earth is a sphere but it's hollow and there's a second world on the inside
lunar cypress
oh god what have I done
onyx loom
🥶
ocean quartz
Wake up people
onyx loom
o
lunar cypress
that's p poggers
forest pecan
that would be a gigantic ass mirror
kekw
well
assuming you have the materials
i guess you could make it reflect it down
then to an angle up
kekw
but anyways
you could reflect it down then to an angle up and then straight down
lunar cypress
bruh
ocean quartz
Yes it would
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP44EPBMb8A
forest pecan
thats to focus it all
lunar cypress
wouldnt it be possbile to make a mirror and reflect the sun energy and save it? (like for the 100 years future)
what is that even supposed to mean
forest pecan
at one point
prisma wave
Wouldn't that just destroy the mirrors after a while
You'd get so much energy that they melt or something
Or the energy would just be slowly lost to the surroundings
karmic fjord
?mf
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FAQ Answer:
prisma wave
Anyone know what the point of the void is in C function parameters? Is int main(void) just equivalent to int main()?
CC: @lunar cypress :)
lunar cypress
Ok so after looking it up, it seems like (void) means no arguments while () means any number of arguments of any type, confusingly
prisma wave
that is very confusing
so it's like varargs except you can't access them?
what's the point of that
lunar cypress
it's not varargs, it's basically just not telling the compiler
prisma wave
wut
Oh wait isn't void used for really unsafe casting or something?
You can cast void to any type
Something like that
lunar cypress
void*, yeah
pointers are all just memory addresses and void* is simply the generic one
prisma wave
I see
prisma wave
The first step of attacking the weakness in the XMAS data is to find the first number in the list (after the preamble) which is not the sum of two of the 25 numbers before it. What is the first number that does not have this property?
does this mean the first number that isn't a sum of the 25 before?
because i did that and it's incorrect
the question is weirdly worded
lunar cypress
> The first step of attacking the weakness in the XMAS data is to find the first...
of any of the 25 numbers before
not all 25
prisma wave
yeah that's what I meant
lavish notch
Anyone have any suggestions for resolving Redstone torches showing up in red in the timings?
https://timings.aikar.co/?id=064245ff160a46d3af6433fad006b3f4
Pardon me if I've come to the wrong channel - already running PandaWire btw
prisma wave
#minecraft probably
lavish notch
Aight - time to copy/paste
prisma wave
🙂
@lunar cypress yeah, i'm pretty sure my is_valid function is correct, and the returned value seems to be correct, it just isn't
for (int i = 25; i < 1000; i++)
{
int num = numbers[i];
if (!is_valid(num))
{
printf("%d\n", num);
break;
}
}
what is the implementation of is_valid
prisma wave
oh
oh
i am stupid
nvm
i was summing i + j not their actual elements in the preamble array 🤦♂️
or not
bool is_valid(int x)
{
if (x < 2)
{
return false;
}
for (int i = 0; i < sizeof preamble; i++)
{
for (int j = 0; j < sizeof preamble; j++)
{
if (preamble[i] + preamble[j] == x)
{
return true;
}
}
}
return false;
}```
anything obviously wrong with this?the sizeof possibly
lunar cypress
you misunderstood the task
your offset increments with each number
you always look at the 25 previous numbers
prisma wave
an int[25]
but yeah i don't think it does work
fixed it though
pog works
my first functioning c program :))
and im pretty sure it doesn't even have any memory leaks
maybe
distant sun
int main() {
printf("Hello, World!");
return 1;
}
lunar cypress
and should be using allman for C <:fingerguns:730681133200834592>
wrong
distant sun
YES
heady birch
fn main() {
println!("Hello World!");
}
Nice. I love the variety on language and different colours, what is the project?
distant sun
not using clion, ew
prisma wave
fn main() {
println!("Hello World!");
}
Nice. I love the variety on language ...
advent of code solutions
trying to use a different language every day
and yes that will include rust
old wyvern
Will it include Elara tho?
old wyvern
xD
prisma wave
👀
old wyvern
Tempting
prisma wave
or even just the interpreted version i guess
old wyvern
yup
frail glade
Lol, it's funny how day 15 says finish PDM.
tawdry ore
hey if u wanna be a g check #general-plugins
ocean quartz
And if you want to be a g be patient
prisma wave
Lol, it's funny how day 15 says finish PDM.
That will take more than a day 🥲
old wyvern
PDM Remake time?
distant sun
Any idea how worth would be to get an Oracle Certified Professional, Java SE Programmer (1Z0-851) atm?
prisma wave
what
distant sun
Someone come to our university with an offer for different courses, and one of them is for java
and at the end you get this thingo
obtuse gale
Gaby wants a frame that reads "I officially know Java"
distant sun
lmao xD
static zealot
:)))
distant sun
Not sure if I would need that but why not, is pretty cheap
distant sun
yea sure 🤣
distant sun
is around 100 usd
steel heart
oo
distant sun
for 10h/week, 12 weeks
steel heart
120h
distant sun
I paid more for private lessons for math and romanian in a month lol
distant sun
=))
static zealot
xD
static zealot
rich developer
what are those?
distant sun
haha I wish 🤣
heady birch
Course Prerequisites:
- The candidate must have already signed the Oracle Database Commitment agreement that prevents them from interacting with any DBMS (Database Management System) other than the official Oracle Database Management System.
prisma wave
apache "libraries"
heady birch
What are you implying? that apache do not make quality libaries? You know, I was looking at Apache Bloudhound, new software, great software, state of the art, issue tracking.
Oh - last release was 2014
prisma wave
very relevant in the software industry
heady birch
The test isnt confusing, the test:
- Adapt the following java code to include a getter and setter
trait Dog {
pub fn meow();
}
obtuse gale
distant sun
u8 what
obtuse gale
unsigned 8 bits?
heady birch
Yes
obtuse gale
distant sun
idk what that is lol
heady birch
u8, u16. There is also a special library for u2, u3, u4, u5, u6, u7, u8 -> u128
distant sun
if anybody used github packages, any idea why when I try to access a class from my jar - to see its code - it is a .class file instead of .java ?
distant sun
well is a dependency added through gradle and it should show the code
prisma wave
jars contain classes, not .java files?
Idk GitHub packages, but unless you're explicitly publishing the source then it won't be there
ocean quartz
IntelliJ normally decompiles it for you, so you can see the code
distant sun
I would expect it to work like any other dependency, bm
prisma wave
I would expect it to work like any other dependency, bm
Surely it does? The jar has classes , IJ decompiles them
half harness
wut
okay
then either sololearn or a yt
probably
or
an online
class
😛
so
half harness
Send YT vid links
hmmm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4W4drYdb4Q <- Good video?
The only downside is that it uses eclipse
brisk burrow
ew
half harness
oh
distant sun
public fun kotlin.collections.List<kotlin.String>.color(rgb: kotlin.Boolean /* = compiled code */): kotlin.collections.List<kotlin.String> { /* compiled code */ }```
It looks like this @prisma wavebtw gimlet that's not java above so dont worry aout that
distant sun
brisk burrow
GabyTM what is this
half harness
silence
brisk burrow
So.... Should I use eclipse or intelliji?
@half harness
@half harness
@compact perch sorry
brisk burrow
Link for download/
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
brisk burrow
Wdym
brisk burrow
Ok, Downloading
half harness
jetbrains is a trusted website
brisk burrow
No virus's guarnteed
half harness
yep
then I recommend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4W4drYdb4Q or #dev-general message, your choice
OH
THE EMBEDS
brisk burrow
So, I should be using jetbrains-toolbox-1.1?
half harness
ye
brisk burrow
Gimlet gonna become god dev
half harness
yess
brisk burrow
I am gonna 120k a year bc of helpchat