dev-general

[slate elk]

What already can be that custom

Some crazy UI animations

[pastel imp]

When you have the money, who tf cares about the cost

[slate elk]

When you made ur money u know it’s value

[prisma wave]

thats not really the point

it looks more professional

[nocturne apex]

and authentic

[slate elk]

More expensive not more professional check wix for example

[pastel imp]

Your mouth is big, your knowledge is miniscule

[slate elk]

U literally can move texts add texts

[prisma wave]

sure

and wix is fine for a lot of people

if you're on a low budget

[nocturne apex]

what abt custom backend tho

for websites

[prisma wave]

if you can afford $2500 on a website then $2500 is worth it

true

[nocturne apex]

isnt wix most likely for static websites?

[pastel imp]

We are not even speaking about individuals buying a website, it'a companies lol

[nocturne apex]

I mean they may have some features

[slate elk]

Backend is easy to make

[pastel imp]

Not most, it is almost purely static

[slate elk]

And Shopify for shops lol

[prisma wave]

maybe tesla should just use wix & shopify too then

[slate elk]

Anyway idk I won’t charge people 2500$ for a website it’s insane price

It’s literally a scam price

[pastel imp]

💀

[nocturne apex]

this is literally the regular price

[pastel imp]

I can't believe bro actually lives in the real world

[nocturne apex]

in lower category

[slate elk]

I’ll make u websites for 600$

Find me work

Keep the rest

[prisma wave]

dude entry level software engineers in the US earn like $80000 a year, $2500 is nothing

[ocean quartz]

There is so much that goes into the price of a website, how big the pages are, what functionality they need, are you providing your own graphics, are you the one hosting it, are you the one setting up the hosting, does it need backend, shop, gallery, etc, you can't just say 2500 is too expensive or 200 is too cheap

[slate elk]

Ur not hosting it forever

[pastel imp]

Maybe you are

[slate elk]

U just add domain and host fee

Same as tax above price

[pastel imp]

And they pay a flat fee per month for maintenance and host

I don't think you have any knowledge on the business world lol

In this matter

[slate elk]

I do run a business

Not a Minecraft server

[pastel imp]

We are not speaking about minecraft

[slate elk]

Monthly revenue is 30k €

[wintry plinth]

In Monopoly money?

[slate elk]

It’s not a lot but 4 employees company

[pastel imp]

Lmao

[ocean quartz]

Some people will charge less because they just use a template they made and change things to fit the client
Might as well use something like squarespace
But if you want something custom then you need your worth
On minecraft terms, it's like a plugin, if you sell it on spigot 10€ is fine but the same plugin as custom to a client could be 1000€

[slate elk]

R u part of the 🏳️‍🌈 community by any chance ?

[wintry plinth]

????

Homophobic?

[ocean quartz]

Lol what

[potent nest]

wtf

[pastel imp]

Lol wtf

[wintry plinth]

For reference, I am a straight man, but thats homophobic lol

[nocturne apex]

so first of all. Boy is spreading absolute garbage over here, tries to tell that web devs are charging way too much, even tho the pay is sometimes lower than 20$/h and now he's just flexing.
Sorry, but you are an absolute dummy in here. You got absolutely random arguments that do not make any sense and basically just triggering whole community

[pastel imp]

What in the world does that have to do with anything

[slate elk]

I thought u r a women sorry

[prisma wave]

?

[wintry plinth]

@chilly zenith sort this guy out

[pastel imp]

Just straight homophobic?

[pastel imp]

.....

[wintry plinth]

Being a woman doesn't make you part of the LGBTQ?

[slate elk]

It’s a question

[pastel imp]

This guy is just trolling I swear

[slate elk]

Why it makes u so angry

[nocturne apex]

yea

[ocean quartz]

What if he was part of it?

[slate elk]

Nah Afonso

[prisma wave]

why does the answer matter

[pastel imp]

Wasn't he banned already once?

[chilly zenith]

=mute @slate elk global

[compact perch]

Successful!

You've muted 89621!

[chilly zenith]

lol

[pastel imp]

I recall him being banned

Idk

[wintry plinth]

thank god

[nocturne apex]

LOL

[pastel imp]

Tf

[nocturne apex]

that was a mute speed run

[pastel imp]

This was the most random thing I have seen today

[nocturne apex]

yea

I feel like meeting donald trump fan

[wintry plinth]

So apparently I look like a Woman I guess?

[prisma wave]

😭

only women design websites

[nocturne apex]

xDDDDD

[pastel imp]

According to tony

Lmao

[ocean quartz]

Probably will go to a different discord to complain about the mute from this .. leftist server and its .. shuffle cards .. lgbt agenda

[nocturne apex]

rip Chazza 😦

[pastel imp]

I swear this guy was already banned once

But someone unbanned him

I am like 97% sure

(Those 3% though)

[nocturne apex]

Afonso?

[agile galleon]

And the far left propaganda we're spreading

[nocturne apex]

random question

[agile galleon]

Nah that was grandhappy

[nocturne apex]

wanna work for me?

[agile galleon]

What just happened

[pastel imp]

Bruh wut

What do ya need

[nocturne apex]

mc dev

for Aquatic

[pastel imp]

Hmmm

DM me all the info

[wintry plinth]

https://discord.com/channels/164280494874165248/164280495964815360 if anyones bored 😂

[agile galleon]

Where would you get clients that pay 2,5k though lol

[nocturne apex]

if only my gf was not here

shes just sleeping

[pastel imp]

Would join but on the train going home from work

[wintry plinth]

oof

[nocturne apex]

otherwise I would join

[wintry plinth]

Safe trip!

[wintry plinth]

What time is it where you are

[nocturne apex]

7PM

Ive just woken up btw

xDDD

Ive been really tired

[pastel imp]

Oof

[agile galleon]

I love how we went from questioning 2,5k for a website, over homophobia and a mute to hiring Afonso lmao

[pastel imp]

LMAO

[wintry plinth]

What a journey 😂

[pastel imp]

Welcome to #dev-general ✨

[subtle fulcrum]

Do any of you know a little about Blockbench? I'm trying to put in a custom model into minecraft but for some reason my custom models texture isn't appearing only the model and the textures on my model in game are just the missing textures texture

[remote goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-flolikenic-reaction-geminirlghts-gif-17937694507203658549

[prisma wave]

🤨

[winter kayak]

До слободы доеду?

[little sandal]

нет

[stable zephyr]

im jelous i get $4/h
where u work by any chance? 🥺
damn i shud start making website on my own ig 😭 than geting employed

i get $150 per website -.-

for both of wordpress and fully costumn

huh

what

ok i see

guy just dont know how to say swear various badwords to such proposals xD

okay, i gues thanks for advice. I know both, just dont bring it to the table.

hmm

[stable zephyr]

busines dont need someone who makes website, they need someone who doesnt cause problems with website, and someone who can contact if snibby snap apens and get it fixed in 5minutes or so no mater how

so the same person must know: costumer support (they need to understand, ask required questions, fix folowing problem in seconds), seo, sofware enginering, coding knowledge.

what you shud expect from costumer:
in nutshell: he has 2 hours to get website up before his busines opening

What costumer expects you to say: "I will do this in hour" "I finished"

[quiet depot]

anyone got any ideas on how to diagnose why my disk read speeds are like 400KB/s on an openvz vps

host says nothing wrong on their end, but I can't just download everything important and reset the vps because of the slow speed

[oblique heath]

i feel like there are very few cases where a disk that slow is your fault

i cant think of anything that isnt the hosts fault

[quiet depot]

yeah fak

that's annoying

[oblique heath]

ask the host if they can assist you in copying the data off your drive

[quiet depot]

will give that a go

[misty sorrel]

Omg the phoenix super manager

[flint crow]

[misty sorrel]

[pastel imp]

what in the fk

https://paste.helpch.at/fabisevexi.php

any ideas what could be wrong?

chatgpt not useful

(I have no fking idea tf he is on about)

[rotund egret]

Says it can't find java 17

[ocean quartz]

Cannot find a Java installation on your machine matching this tasks requirements
Aka skill issue

[ocean quartz]

Also lmao wtf is that answer

[pastel imp]

yeah my exact question lmao

[pastel imp]

hella weird, other projects with java are compiling

lol

and java home variable is set

[crude cloud]

chatgpt not useful
why would it be..?

it's literally a bullshit generator

it's your phone's keyboard "next word" suggestions but on steroids

[forest pecan]

Also ChatGPT is probably the worst ai for generating code lol

The best I’ve used is Copilot but it’s shit tbh too

Only good for doing some trivial tasks here and there

[pastel imp]

not generating code

trying to find issue with gradle error lol

[rotund egret]

Wanted it to read one of two sentences to you

[wintry plinth]

Defo https://cursor.com all the way, I cancelled my Copilot subscription. Cursor uses any model you pick, e.g. Claude etc, but it’s actually good

[pastel imp]

well, doesn't it also require a claude subscription if you do use it?

so you technically require 2 subscriptions

but yeah, I have heard a ton of good stuff about cursor

[wintry plinth]

No

I just pay for cursor and that’s it ($20/mo)

[pastel imp]

oh actually!?

so only need that?

[wintry plinth]

Yes

https://fxtwitter.com/heychazza/status/1831101531644707309?s=46

[pastel imp]

do they have a jetbrains plugin?

[wintry plinth]

No

[pastel imp]

VSC 😭

god

[prisma wave]

i'm always incredibly sceptical of apps where it's just a fancy frontend around an existing model

[cerulean ibex]

its been 9 hours so hopefully u figured it out but if not, try running gradle with java 17

alternatively iirc theres a gradle property that you can set to tell it about additional toolchains like ones installed by ij

[wintry plinth]

Definitely agree when it’s a random company, but Cursor is so known and it’s genuinely really cool what it can do

[foggy pond]

i HATE hate HATE when gradle is slow and stupid and takes ages to see that the dependencies changed

[cinder flare]

have you tried pressing the button in intellij that reloads it the second you change the build.gradle

[foggy pond]

Yep

Invalidate caches + restart, restart laptop

All it takes is for me to walk away like 20 minutes and it will have woken up

[cinder flare]

that's really weird, mine is always basically instant

never had any problems with out of date gradle stuff

[foggy pond]

I've had that issue on two laptops I've developed on

What's weirder is that even typing gibberish in the build.gradle, and refreshing, it doesn't complain

It's just like
"hmm, looks about right 👍" and goes on with its day

[cinder flare]

what operating system are we talking here

[foggy pond]

Both Windows and MacOS

[cinder flare]

ssd?

[foggy pond]

Now I am on MacOS

I think SSD? Not completely sure tbh

[remote goblet]

about 30% of the time for me gradle is a bitch but that's often because it's a large project, paperweight moment or i shut down intellij while it was doing something

[cinder flare]

huh yeah weird, gradle is pretty rock solid for me tbh

[foggy pond]

This project has two classes 😭

[cinder flare]

just normal windows + ssd and everything

[foggy pond]

sounds about right 👍 I can totally find those dependencies

[cinder flare]

if you do it from cli does it work?

[foggy pond]

cli?

[cinder flare]

command line?

like if you open Terminal.exe and use gradle there?

[foggy pond]

I've never done that tbh

What am I meant to do

[cinder flare]

what lol

[foggy pond]

I've never used gradle in the terminal

or I mean, the IDE terminal yes

What command am I meant to run though

[cinder flare]

./gradlew build or something

[foggy pond]

Ahh there you go there is an error now

Something about my JVM being on 17 instead of 21

magically it worked

Well thank you haha

[cinder flare]

yea don't be afraid to use the cli lol

that's really what IJ calls just in the background

[rotund egret]

Which if you're keen at looking at certain logging in the IDE you'll actually see the commands it's running

[mystic condor]

hello any support online?

[jagged axle]

how to config gsit stop siting in players ;-;

[lavish notch]

Just ask your question my friend - no need to ask to ask.

[mystic condor]

I need to be unbanned from an account that I was banned from but now I am unbanned only that they didn't unban me because they had hacked my discord and made spam but I got it back. (786271962065272864)

[compact perch]

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[lavish notch]

Ah, HelpChat isn't Discord support.

[long dagger]

Made this mobile design for a app to track golf putts, not exactly in love with the colors and the slider looks funny, what do you think? (the functionality will be explained to the user elsewhere) (should this go in #off-topic?)

[mystic condor]

I am muted in helpchat not in discord

therefore I require a support admin mod to unmute me

[foggy pond]

You guys recon if I have some form of currency on my server, that if it is physical I should write an anti-dupe system?

[pastel imp]

yes.

[remote goblet]

is that a real question

[foggy pond]

Yeah it is

I know Paper patches them already

But idk if it is enough

[distant sun]

Do players withdraw the currency as an item, or is it always an item?

Because for withdrawal I would assign a serial to each item and keep a track for the active and redeemed items

[pastel imp]

yup

[distant sun]

Yeah, it patches the vanilla bugs, but not those caused by plugins. I remember once someone duplicated some items because a plugin didn't cancel all inventory movements, and players could put items in their off-hand.

[foggy pond]

Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking, assigning a UUID to each item stack that is generated

[wind patio]

Yeah well thats how I do it with my voucher module

You create an item, assign a pdc value with a generated UUID and save the same UUID (and other related voucher data, such as type) in the database. Even if the players somehow managed to dupe the voucher item, the database is checked if its valid and not redeemed.

[pastel imp]

anyone knows the name of that one config library that starts with D and ends with Conf?

[prisma wave]

is it DConf

DeezConf

[pastel imp]

.-.

bruh

although kotlin config libraries recommendations are also accepted

[ocean quartz]

Kotlinx serialization

[dawn hinge]

This? https://github.com/A248/DazzleConf

[pastel imp]

YES, that is it

[pastel imp]

Will check it out

[rotund egret]

Configurate

[devout wave]

Looking for Minecraft Model Artists. DM me portfolios.

[oblique heath]

#1279692879492812810 #1279692880973140020 🗿

[devout wave]

uh sorry

[valid pollen]

do you guys know if its possible to alter textures/texturepacks while the server is running?

Im trying to change the appearance of the moon

[brazen ether]

🗿

[brazen ether]

no

well yea

but players need to rejoin iirc

[valid pollen]

Maybe a cheesy workaround?

[brazen ether]

you need to just send a new resourcepack to the players

[valid pollen]

Yeah

Alr ty anyways

[ocean quartz]

Player does not need to rejoin, you can change the resource pack at any time

[pastel imp]

they just need to reload textures

[ocean quartz]

It reloads automatically

[pastel imp]

recommend creative central for resource pack management

ngl

[wintry plinth]

You can send a packet I believe to force download it again

[ocean quartz]

Pretty sure Paper has API for it

[pastel imp]

yes

[wintry plinth]

No way, really

[ocean quartz]

Player#sendResourcePacks part of adventure

[valid pollen]

nice!

and thats player spesific right? so it only does this for 1 player?

[ocean quartz]

Yeah you can do it per player

[valid pollen]

WIl it show like the red loading screen?

[ocean quartz]

Yeah

[valid pollen]

Is their a workaround for this

[ocean quartz]

Probably not

[valid pollen]

Im guessing not right

[ocean quartz]

Not without any client side mod at least

[valid pollen]

Yeah

Alr ty!

Btw only client side then right?

[ocean quartz]

Uh wdym?

[valid pollen]

Uhh i mean like could you use like how optifine and stuf runs so trough the launcher yk?

[oblique heath]

wait is this java?

[distant sun]

javascript

[oblique heath]

a makes sense

[cinder flare]

Hoplite https://github.com/sksamuel/hoplite

It's as simple as possible, you just define a kotlin data class hierarchy and it will create it from whatever format with beautiful error messages

[rotund egret]

No annotations? Wow wow

[cinder flare]

nah who needs annotations

[ocean quartz]

@pastel imp Imagine not doing

screenManager += Screen(..).apply {
  addComponent(...)
}

😔

Or even better

screenManager.screen(...) {
  component(...)
}

[pastel imp]

wait wut does apply do?

also +=???

what in the world

was updating it to be smt like this

but guess there is even better lol

[ocean quartz]

Kotlin allows you to use operators, for example operator fun get(key: String) and then be used as something[key] or operator fun plus(other: Int) then something + other
As for apply it's a built in function that takes the variable as this so for example

val variable = ...

variable.something(..)
variable.something(..)
// rewritten as
variable.apply {
  something(..)
  something(..)
}

[ocean quartz]

Would be much more clean as

screen(instance, player) {
  size = Size(..)
  center = Pos(..)
}

Basically just

fun screen(instance: Instance, player: Player, block: Screen.() -> Unit) {
  Screen(instance, player).apply(block)
}

[cerulean ibex]

average kotlin magic

but yeah pretty much lambdas can have receivers so they're pretty much methods

[pastel imp]

hella cleaner, now time to add components, just gotta figure out how... 1s...

[ocean quartz]

Screen.of

Also incase you didn't know, when adding to a list you can do list += value instead of list.add(value)

[pastel imp]

what else am I supposed to do :-:

[ocean quartz]

screen(instance, player) as a top level function

[pastel imp]

yeah, was just looking if I could make it be smt like

screenManager += Screen.of(instance, player) {
  size = Size(10.0, 10.0)
  center = Pos(0.0, 44.0, 2.0)
  components {
    component...
    component...
  }
}

[ocean quartz]

You can yes

[pastel imp]

I see, rn I am returning a PlayerScreen (might have other use cases besides just player in the future, idk)

idk if this is the best of doing it ^^

First time actually trying to do a proper library lol

[pastel imp]

do I need to create another class for this? I'd assume

[pastel imp]

lmao did you just do that in like 5mins lol

[ocean quartz]

Yeah :')

[pastel imp]

lol

how does internal functions work?

[ocean quartz]

It's just an access modifier
public - available everywhere
internal - only available for current module
protected - only available for inheritance
private - only available for current class

[pastel imp]

I see, also, does putting a function outside of the class make it work like a static method?

or do I need a companion object for that?

either way, thank you for showing me this. Will probably use it a ton lol

probably gonna repeat the same thing for components themselves since they can be quite complex

[rotund egret]

I love dumb Kotlin magic RAAAA

[prisma wave]

yes

[prisma wave]

companion objects are just if you want the A.b namespacing syntax

[pastel imp]

eh unsure which I prefer tbh

[prisma wave]

normal functions are generally more idiomatic fwiw

[brazen ether]

@pastel imp u should be original and make a font & shader based UI lib

[sweet cipher]

I feel like += doesn't make sense for that

[agile galleon]

Holdon Afonso using Kotlin?

Or was that another guy disliking Kotlin every time it came up?

[cinder flare]

i mean, you're adding a Screen to the ScreenManager, makes sense to me

[cinder flare]

@wooden dune It looks very solid to me! Love the kotlinx.serialization stuff. My only real recommendation would be to maybe look into a command framework? Looking at your two command files, so much is just validation and getting the raw string in the right format. I personally love https://github.com/Revxrsal/Lamp, as it makes this kind of command stuff as simple as it could possibly be.

[wooden dune]

Thanks!!

[pastel imp]

I have 0 experience with shaders lol, this isn't supposed to be original, what larkyy is doing has been done 200x too lol.

[pastel imp]

I was indeed a kotlin hater but at one point I thought "hell, I can't hate something if I never tried it" and here I am

Gotta say Matt, larkyy, brister and others have helped me in the transition a lot

[rotund egret]

Kotlin users rise up

[cinder flare]

it's all the Java I spent years learning, just so much nicer

I only wish there were more things to use it for, kinda sadge to have to go back to like TypeScript for frontend and like Laravel/Django for a mature backend

[pastel imp]

Why does no one make a way to use kotlin for front end xD

[rotund egret]

Kotlin/Wasm Kotlin/JS

smh

[cinder flare]

I mean you just can't unless you use WASM, but that has a lot of downsides right now

[pastel imp]

Like, you write it in kotlin and it compiles to html or whatever

[cinder flare]

oh I mean that literally exists lol, kotlinx.html or whatever

[pastel imp]

Oh lol

[cinder flare]

just doesn't really compare to like React or Vue in any reasonable metrics

[pastel imp]

Normal

[rotund egret]

Just use React or Vue in Kotlin :^)

[pastel imp]

I mean, no one has lost the time to do it yet.

[cinder flare]

haha, yeah when is someone going to write the Vue template parser but for kotlin

my dreams come true 😍

[rotund egret]

React has one I think, vue would be interesting

[pastel imp]

Do it

Xd

[cinder flare]

I mean to be fair, the best part of Vue is that the templates are fully valid XML, so like theoretically you should be able to just use that with custom attributes in kotlinx.html

but also a lot of the niceties come from the compiler and doing it that way forces you to bundle the compiler and have the browser render/compile stuff on the fly

Plus you still have to use like vite to bundle your JS 😭

[ocean quartz]

You can, my docs website is written entirely in Kotlin :)

[pastel imp]

Lol

Kotlin taking over

[agile galleon]

The frontend aswell? With compose?

[cinder flare]

with kotlinx.html iirc

[ocean quartz]

Compose currently only works with WASM

[agile galleon]

Oh but you write html with that

Right?

[ocean quartz]

Nope

[cinder flare]

with what lol

kotlinx.html is a kotlin DSL for html

[ocean quartz]

https://github.com/TriumphTeam/website/blob/main/backend/src/main/kotlin/website/pages/docs/DocsPage.kt#L342

[cinder flare]

like a serverside templating language

[agile galleon]

Oh that's cool

When kotlinx.html + Laravel lmao

[ocean quartz]

You can even do the css in Kotlin but I thought that was a bit much

[wind patio]

stop kotlin'ing everything for the love of god 😩🙏

kotlin as a dbms when

[cinder flare]

somebody rewrite that java graph database in kotlin right this instant

[pastel imp]

might have to add "pages"/tabs

cause switching between 2 menus (screens) could be hella funky

[ocean quartz]

That was always the goal of Kotlin, multiplatform with the same codebase

[pastel imp]

so better have a single screen that can display several menus/tabs

[ocean quartz]

Also forgot to say, make the functions that have functions as parameters inline

Aka inline fun screen instead of just fun screen

[pastel imp]

what does that do?

screenManager += screen(instance, player) {
    size = Size(10.0, 10.0)
    center = Pos(0.0, 44.0, 2.0)
    tabs {
        tab("tab-1") {
            components {
                component(Component(instance, Pos(0.0, 42.0, 0.0), 10, 10))
                component(Component(instance, Pos(0.0, 42.0, 0.0), 10, 10))
            }
        }
    }
}

does this look decent?

[ocean quartz]

It inlines the content instead of executing it, let me give you an example:

fun test(block: () -> Unit)

println("hi")
test {
  println("there")
}

This would turn into something like

val block: Function1 = ...
println("hi")
block.invoke() // prints there

While if you have

inline fun test(block: () -> Unit)

println("hi")
test {
  println("there")
}

It'll turn into something like

println("hi")
println("there")

There is no function, it gets "inlined"

[pastel imp]

hmm I see

ty

[sweet cipher]

Yeah but it's two different types, like it wouldn't make sense to do screen += screenManager

[cinder flare]

yeah but it's like adding something to a bag, a ScreenManager manages... Screens. So adding a Screen for it to manage makes sense

same as adding a ball to a bag to hold it makes sense, sure they're two different things but they do different things as well lol

and like, in Java, it would likely just be screenManager.add(Screen), so like, this is just a cuter way of doing it

[sweet cipher]

Idk it just doesn't look right to me

[brazen ether]

excuses excuses /j

[sweet cipher]

Adding something to a collection is different than adding two things together

[ocean quartz]

Think of it this way

var number =  // number is 0
number += 1 // number is now 1

val list = mutableList<String>() // list index is 0
list += "Hi!" // list index is now 1

Same would apply to the screen manager

You're adding a screen to the manager

[cinder flare]

yeah like I was gonna say, a fair amount of langs just have the + operator add to collections

Python, Kotlin, C#, etc.

[sweet cipher]

But using += changes the variable itself for number, while it mutates internal data for list

[sweet cipher]

I think that would make more sense

But still feels weird idk

[cinder flare]

I mean that's literally what this is lol

I think you're just too Java/C-pilled to realize the possibilites out there

[ocean quartz]

+= mutates the value, we're talking about a mutable list therefore it mutates the list, makes perfect sense to me

[sweet cipher]

I use Kotlin

[cinder flare]

And you haven't used any of the operator overloading in the standard library collections?

[sweet cipher]

I have

[cinder flare]

So what's the problem then lol

[sweet cipher]

It just seems weird using += on two unrelated types

I'm not saying not to use it

I'm just saying it seems weird lol

[cinder flare]

I mean yeah I think you're just too used to Java/C

[ocean quartz]

They aren't unrelated though List<String> += String or ScreenManager (Manager<Screen>) += Screen

[agile galleon]

What does screen += screenmanager do?

[ocean quartz]

Nothing

[cinder flare]

It doesn't

[agile galleon]

What

[cinder flare]

what do you mean "what" lol

[agile galleon]

Ah you it was used the other way around sorry

[cinder flare]

you define binary operator overloads with a left-hand-side and a right-hand-side, and the types have to match

it doesn't have to be commutative like mathematics lol

[agile galleon]

Just functionally, what does it do

[cinder flare]

the correct one adds a Screen to be managed by a ScreenManager

[cinder flare]

re.

[agile galleon]

Then that makes sense

[ocean quartz]

Depends on how you implement it, but for example screenManager += screen adds a screen to the manager

[agile galleon]

So it's literally like adding a screen to a list but the list is fancier and does more stuff

[ocean quartz]

Yeah

[cinder flare]

that's the thought process yea

[agile galleon]

Well then I don't see an issue with it

Maybe fisher got the wrong idea

[cinder flare]

nah they just like the mathematical definition of these operators

[ocean quartz]

I get what fisher is coming from, += feels like it's mutating the variable, but in this case it's the value

[sweet cipher]

It just seems like it might not be clear for someone reading the code what it would do.
It's obvious that number += number would change the original number.
But list += element could mean list = new list consisting of list and the element
Whereas list.add(element) is much more obvious.
That's just off the top of my head, I just feel like it makes more sense to add related things together,
because adding to a collection is different than adding two collections together.

But that's just my opinion

[agile galleon]

I mean it's mutating the value either way, no?

[cinder flare]

I mean I think specifically, += has always meant that it mutates the value in place instead of cloning and changing

So that ambiguity doesn't really exist I think

[agile galleon]

Yeah

[cinder flare]

But yeah it's just a matter of following the convention of the standard library, where they already have those overloads for like every collection, so if you are used to kotlin, it makes a lot of intuitive sense

[agile galleon]

int1 += int2 doesn't set it to int2

[ocean quartz]

list += list also works, the same way list has addAll, both still make sense to me

I get that it may be harder to read if you are coming from the perspective that the += operator only has a single function, but kotlin allows operator overloading, you should always look at it from a perpective that it can have a different behaviour than the most obvious

[sweet cipher]

I'm not saying it doesn't "make sense", I'm just saying it feels weird

[agile galleon]

But I think this will lead to nowhere. No matter how much sense such things make, if somebody feels weird about it rationale won't change that :)

[ocean quartz]

And to me list += element adding to the list is the most obvious behaviour

[sweet cipher]

Maybe I'll change my mind at some point who knows

[cinder flare]

yeah it's just a matter of style and the fact that some langs have operator overloading and use it

[sweet cipher]

I've probably used it before honestly because it's there

I just feel like it makes more intuitive sence to use it for related things, like position + position creates a new position

And collection + collection creates a new collection

I guess if I think about it as a shorthand for list += listOf(element) it makes sense

[agile galleon]

Imo that feels weirder than just adding the element

[sweet cipher]

Adding two lists together?

[agile galleon]

Yes

[cinder flare]

bro really likes homogenous operators lol

[agile galleon]

I mean the method in our beloved java is literally called add

You add and element

• is addition

just my opinion aswell ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pastel imp]

I am unsure what you have to do with what I do or do not tbh lol but ok

[brazen ether]

?

[pastel imp]

I decided to do it like X, I do not have any knowledge with shaders nor do I wanna lose time with it

[wind patio]

that looks so illegal

kotlin will do everything except be normal

[brazen ether]

fair enough ig

[ocean quartz]

What is "normal"?

[pastel imp]

is there a normal?

[rotund egret]

More boilerplate

[pastel imp]

Who in the world 100 years ago thought we would be clicking some random plastic, that would send a tiny signal to a piece of a bunch of metals layed out in a certain way that make 0s and 1s that then are able to calculate stuff, which then humans used to create new forms of languages, to be able to communicate with said hardware instead of 1s and 0s, that follow a certain format, and whatever

[rotund egret]

We need getters, we need setters, we need explicit separate constructors

[pastel imp]

oh yeah, and the chips on our smartphones are better than the ones that launched a man into space

how's that normal?

that sounds like magic in some way

[rotund egret]

Bros yapping

Somehow forgot about local space time context

[wind patio]

not kotlin 😳

[ocean quartz]

Okay so no answer, got it 👍🏼

[distant sun]

Ngnl some operators are a bit confusing, but in some situations they work very great
E.g. BigInteger > BigInteger instead of BigInteger.isGreater(BigInteger) (idk if this exists, js)

[ocean quartz]

You can use > on BigInteger in Kotlin, but not in Java
Those operators are always present if the class implements Comparable
And even if you couldn't you could just make it an extension operator function

[shrewd walrus]

#showcase message
@lime gate what is it?

[lime gate]

It's something Mojang uses for testing, I suppose xD

if (payload instanceof DebugGameTestAddMarkerCustomPayload debugGameTestAddMarkerCustomPayload) {
            this.client
                .debugRenderer
                .gameTestDebugRenderer
                .addMarker(
                    debugGameTestAddMarkerCustomPayload.pos(),
                    debugGameTestAddMarkerCustomPayload.color(),
                    debugGameTestAddMarkerCustomPayload.text(),
                    debugGameTestAddMarkerCustomPayload.durationMs()
                );

[shrewd walrus]

Are markers not entities?

[lime gate]

You're confusing the empty entities called marker with this, which is completely different. This is just rendering a cube that allows setting color and alpha 🐱

[paper stag]

Does anyone here know how to make fabric mods?

[oblique heath]

im getting deja vu

[rotund egret]

Mixin wee

[winter iron]

anyone here had experience with android and google play console?

[placid nexus]

[DeluxeMenus] Option 'hide_attributes' of item 'jobs_forging_n' in menu 'JobsMainMenuSkillTree' is deprecated and will be removed in the future. Replace it with item_flags: [HIDE_ATTRIBUTES].

[crude cloud]

okay

[uncut lagoon]

damage completely disabled from players

any fix?

just liike 255 resisstance

[crude cloud]

sir, this is the shitposting channel

[hot oar]

I would love to make plugins but java confuses me 😭

[crude cloud]

are you familiar with any other programming language?

[brazen ether]

you just have to do it more

watch tutorials on concepts you don't understand

ask in #development if you need help with something specific

[distant sun]

Html

[wind patio]

css and xml

[oblique heath]

json

i have 6 years experience in csv

i founded a company that has a csv backend

and an ini frontend

[brazen ether]

ngl scratch is underrated

[ocean quartz]

Or you could just post the error and get a dozen of pair of eyes :)

[brazen ether]

don't ask to ask

[wind bolt]

So I'm looking at the test permission function in the command class and I'm wondering does that just check if they're op, or if they actually have the permission defined in the command itself

All the documentation says is that it tests the given command center to see if they can perform this command. If they do not have permission they will be informed that they cannot do this.

But it doesn't specify whether that permission check is op related or permission node related

Also, which executes first, Command#execute or CommandExecutor#onCommand

[oblique star]

is there a mod/way to obtain the base64 (or something else) which allows me to get the head (and its look) just by having the item in my inventory? 🤔

[ocean quartz]

The item's meta will be a SkullMeta which you can use to get the player profile, that has information about the texture etc

[oblique star]

any mod you know of which allows me to see the skullmeta on the client? (if it's even possible)

[ocean quartz]

Uh no idea, skull meta is a bukkit thing

[oblique star]

ah k

[dry harbor]

I wanna get into writing plugins by hand with Java

Can anyone give me some pointers to get started by chance?

Like, what to download essentially

I know people use Intelji and stuff but uhh, I'm not totally up to date on what the best stuff is, so just looking for suggestions

[pastel imp]

intellij all the way, also recommend gradle. Several ways to learn java, but I will go to the don'ts, one of them being, do not rush the learning process. Learn java first. Then you can start messing with small stuff in bukkit, and then go higher.

[dry harbor]

Fair enough, thanks!

I’ve been using this program called Visual Bukkit for a while

So I learned about general stuff that way, when they updated to V6 it actually uses classes and methods and all so it was definitely a learning curve, but it helped me learn how it works a lil bit

[pastel imp]

is that like scratch but for bukkit? 💀

[dry harbor]

Literally yes

😂😂

[pastel imp]

oh god

[dry harbor]

It works better than you’d expect

But uh

I’m ready for the real deal

[pastel imp]

good.

You can start with java

and then join the kotlin club

(I fell in love with this sh@... I hate the fact matt has always been right... 😭 )

[prisma wave]

classic

every kotlin fan was once a kotlin hater

[dry harbor]

I need to make an extension for a plugin I’m using using it’s API and

I can import APIs into visual bukkit

Buuuuuut it’s gonna be more worth it to make it by hand

[pastel imp]

lmao

[cerulean ibex]

say that on minestom

theyll teach u abt the kotlin curve

[pastel imp]

yeye, they already spoke about it

[dry harbor]

I've heard a lot about minestom, is there really any benefit besides performance and hyper customization?

Seems like a lot of rework to reinvent the wheel, even if the new wheel is made out of titanium

(just asking, really don't know much about the benefits)

[oblique heath]

i mean at this point performance is the main concern for a lot of people

[dry harbor]

Fair enough

I just wish performance didn't come at the cost of so much sacrifice

[cerulean ibex]

lmao

[dry harbor]

Basically gotta throw away all the stuff on the market and make it on your own

[oblique heath]

minecraft servers only being able to hold a bit over a hundred people is kinda sad

it be like that

[dry harbor]

It do be like that

[pastel imp]

minestom is meant for ultra custom gamemodes

that don't require almost anything from vanilla

it's when it is easier to implement what you need than to strip away everything you don't need.

[dry harbor]

Gotcha

[pastel imp]

performance comes as an extra in theory xD

[dry harbor]

Intelji downloaded and launched

time to get to business

[pastel imp]

There are some people reimplementing vanilla in minestom

[dry harbor]

or time to procrastinate one of the two

[pastel imp]

work in progress but yeah

[dry harbor]

That's pretty cool tbh

[pastel imp]

wonder if at the end the performance will be better or not

[dry harbor]

Is there any plugins that might be good for MC development in intelji?

[pastel imp]

just start low, there is no specific plugin for starts

[dry harbor]

kk

[pastel imp]

I guess some type of essentials is nice

just make sure u know java

[dry harbor]

yeah defo

I seen this one called "Minecraft Development" but didn't know if it was something worth using

[pastel imp]

yeah that plugin is peak

although bad for starters

cause it removes a lot of the boilerplate regarding gradle

and setup

you should at least do that once

[dry harbor]

Gotchu

So I should be using Gradle as the build system?

Idk if that's what you meant like regarding gradle

[forest pecan]

Use Gradle or Maven but I’d choose gradle

They are both good Java build tools which you can use but I’d prefer Gradle for my own purposes

Though I don’t want to give you a biased view

[dry harbor]

Fair enough, I seen Maven might be better for beginners but yeah makes sense

[forest pecan]

I’d choose Gradle because it’s easier to change back to maven if you learned how it all works sorta

[dry harbor]

I'll give that a go 👍

[forest pecan]

Maven is more of a build configuration and Gradle is more of a build script

But of course maven can have scripts and stuff with plugins or whatever so use whichever you like

[dry harbor]

Alrighty sweet

[ocean quartz]

Many hate what they don't understand

[pastel imp]

true

[ocean quartz]

Looked into the "kotlin curve" that was mentioned, been using it for 5 years and it has not curved down
Also found this comment really funny

No, Kotlin goes lower once you have a huge unmaintainable project on your hands
Like this wouldn't be the case in literally every language lol

[prisma wave]

I prefer to understand things first in order to hate more efficiently

[ocean quartz]

Exactly

That's why @crude cloud is the best Kotlin hater

[pastel imp]

Lol

[crude cloud]

after kezz

[ocean quartz]

True but they also love it, it's a complicated relationship

[crude cloud]

😔

[mortal creek]

I got a question in general

How long should servers strive to stay up for (SMP)

[twin geyser]

What if we use the same port for votifer and normal?

[potent nest]

what

[twin geyser]

Like we usually need two ports to set up votifer what if we only use one?

[potent nest]

how are you going to do that

[lavish notch]

You don't need two ports for Votifier - just one.

[twin geyser]

Then why do people say min two ports on tutorials

What difference does it make

[lavish notch]

Oh, you need a separate port from your connection/join (primary) port.

[twin geyser]

What if we don't provide? If we use the same port

[lavish notch]

You need another port - most hosts offer additional ports for free.

[twin geyser]

I mean what's the need of the additional port?

[lavish notch]

For Votifier lol - it's how the server knows that the message being sent is for Votifier.

[wind patio]

well it's like having one door vs two doors.
when players connect to the server, they use 25565 "door", when someone votes for your server, they use the <another-port> "door"
if you have the same port for both, how could you differentiate between a player join and a vote?

[brazen ether]

@lime gate imo u should get rid of the translucent background

i'm not sure what you'd replace it with but it just doesn't look good right now. i like the overall project just that one specific detail isn't very pretty imo 😭

[lime gate]

It's hard for me to get rid of it because that translucent background is what started the whole idea, and also because I have no idea what to replace it with 🥲

[abstract osprey]

#showcase message I still cease to understand how people do the cutscenes and particularly the ‘typing animation’ on the dialogues
Anyone able to enlighten me? I’ve seen it several times

[brazen ether]

custom resourcepack

you can create a font and then set the elements up down left right

and send those elements in action bar

[abstract osprey]

Yeah, I know it’s a resource pack.
I’m more interested in the technicality. I guess it’s just a custom plugin that handles the action bar etc

[brazen ether]

yea so for example you make a few copies of a font at different y values (or u can use new lines but I'm speaking generally here) and then just position them appropriately by moving them left or right

same thing for elements

[pastel imp]

can't you use negative spaces?

[brazen ether]

people have created fonts that let you create negative spaces which move the cursor back and forward, allowing for very good lateral sprite movements

[pastel imp]

for up and down

[brazen ether]

no

[pastel imp]

so only left and right?

[brazen ether]

up and down has to be hard coded or use the /n character (which is only down)

[pastel imp]

I see

I recall there was a way to not use action bars and use the "tooltip" action bar

aka when you switch items in hotbar, it displays their name there

I recall you could send a packet and display that there too

[brazen ether]

OR shaders

[pastel imp]

so it would be above action bars

[brazen ether]

yea you can use boss bar or title or scoreboard

or chat

[pastel imp]

not speaking about neither of those

but sure

xD

[brazen ether]

yea ik

I'm just adding on

[pastel imp]

ah ok

[brazen ether]

boss bar is usually the best option tho

cause it doesn't break with multiple plugins

[pastel imp]

still have to choose which one I will use on a game I am doing in minestom

but oh welp

first things first, gotta finish the UI library

xD

[brazen ether]

it depends on the anchor points

boss bar is anchored higher, action bar is lower

shaders allow custom anchoring tho which is cool

I used that for my vanilla armorhud plugin

[pastel imp]

I have never used shaders so, not gonna mess with them

plus, mojang gonna add actual supported tools to replace shaders

so, will wait for those

[brazen ether]

I like how they're leaning into community dev tools

they're finally recognizing the people who make their game fun

[pastel imp]

yeah

the new system for updates is also part of why that's doable

[ancient junco]

For java yea (bedrock modding is becoming worse tho, but f bedrock java is superior)

[potent nest]

They are doing that for years now

[brazen ether]

yes I should have acknowledged that

[carmine blade]

I edited the plugin's codes, but: com.example:MotionVector.jar 1.0 is missing,com.example:MoverType.jar 1.0 is missing, com.example:KeyBind.jar 1.0 is missing
Can someone help me, please?
Even if I add it as dependency to pom.xml it doesn't work.

[patent burrow]

Outage still ongoing? It isn't

[brazen ether]

tell AI how to cure cancer
then give it 64 tries and 90% of the time itll cure cancer at least once

[safe crescent]

"ai will take our jobs"

[stone oyster]

Anybody know java well enough to add database configs to an existing plugin?

[potent nest]

what are "database configs"

[distant sun]

Database with configs or configs with databases, cant tell

[distant sun]

https://www.codingame.com/contests/fall-challenge-2024

spring challenge 2023

[lunar knoll]

one plugin of mine, has changed .classes to be a folder, hence i cannot preview it, any ideas how to achieve it?

[lunar knoll]

they are treated as folders

the main class looks like this on jar -tf:
Main.class/

[distant sun]

What decompiler have you used?

[warm matrix]

why am i here?

nvm

[lunar knoll]

fernflower, enigma, jd-gui

when i do jar -tf <file.jar>

i see the all .class being f.e "Main.class/"

with d----

being a directory

i need to revert it

do you have any idea how to?

[reef maple]

Hi there, I would like to ask how can I "force" Jitpack to use Maven 3+ instead of Maven 2 when it comes to compiling my plugins ?

On Github and on Intellij, it seems I'm already on Maven 3.9.5. But what about on the workflow/pom.xml ? (POM use maven-shade-plugin 3.6.0 and ùaven-compiler-plugin 3.13.0)
On the workflows files, I use ubuntu-latest.
Thanks in advance, hope I'm not too confusing ^^

[old wyvern]

Did maven central remove a lot of packages by any chance?

[cerulean ibex]

https://jitpack.io/docs/BUILDING/#maven-projects

[hexed gulch]

Hi

[crude cloud]

hi hello hey

[hexed gulch]

Hello

[crude cloud]

hi

[hexed gulch]

What's up

[crude cloud]

GRINDIN' 💪 💪 💯 🤑 💰

-# (edited)

[hexed gulch]

#1279692879492812810

[reef maple]

So as I understand: having maven2/ in the logs is not a problem. But, at the start, Jitpack uses Maven 3.6.1
I tried forcing the use of 3.6.3 with a jitpack.yml file at the root of the project, it stills use 3.6.1 upon building.

I might not understand everything, Thanks for answering !

[rotund egret]

I'd really consider if you need .3 or if .1 will work for you, but https://github.com/takari/maven-wrapper is an example repo for that precise version of maven and jitpack.

[reef maple]

I need .3 'cause some of the plugins throws me an error with .1 such as maven not compiling. So I downgraded some maven compiler/plugin/wrapper etc... But in the end I got back the first problem: "version 56 instead or 61" or something like that when packaging.
I'll check on the link

[reef maple]

Ok, it worked perfectly ! Many thanks !

[bitter root]

@heady grove I know it's hard to trust anyone online. But that doesn't mean you will say whatever you want to.
Anyway I have made it myself with HTML CSS and JavaScript.

Structure of the web is made with HTML all the design is done with CSS and JS is used in the hero section also when changing the theme and when you scroll.

[bronze pasture]

It's quite funny looking at budgets of #1279692880973140020

[wind patio]

It's quite funny looking at #1279692879492812810

[soft remnant]

Good evening, a quick question: what happens to entities in Minecraft when a chunk gets unloaded? I'm asking because I recently started working with entities, and now I'm at a point where I'm tracking certain "CustomEntity's". For this, I've been using custom events alongside events like CreatureSpawnEvent, DeathEntityEvent, and others. However, a doubt arose when I was testing and moved away from the chunks where these custom entities are located, and for some reason, they stopped behaving as they were supposed to.

and sorry, I got the wrong channel.

[pastel imp]

if I am not mistaken, if they are persistent, they get stored, on unload they get despawned and on load if they are persistent, they get spawned again.

If I am not mistaken, you can't simply store the entity in a variable

[soft remnant]

I understand, and yes, I already struggled a lot with storing entities in variables, but I managed to keep entities persistent by using other parameters, such as saving what I need from the entity and also using its own persistentData to store what I need and track the entity. If entities are saved when the chunk is unloaded, that will be really useful. I guess I'll need to check the ChunkUnloadEvent to get the information I need.

[stone oyster]

Is it worth my time to redo 1300+ lines in the messages.properties file of essentialsx

[rotund egret]

Probably not

[rose magnet]

Would anyone know why my /stack isnt working? when you do the command itll stack the items but if you try to shift click into a chest they immediately unstack. i know manually placing them in a chest breaks but shift clicking always worked. Any reasons?

[dry harbor]

Nope not really, plenty of templates exist online (I’m sure some are free, if not like $2)

Plus I’ve tried that route before and well, there’s tons of useless messages and commands

My rule of thumb for essentials messages is just change the most common messages

Fly, god, homes, etc

[brazen ether]

$30 💀 #1279692880973140020 message

beggers ain't choosers cmon 🙏

[bronze pasture]

That's a death sentence

[distant sun]

What is a lightweight command library that has support for flags (--test:value, -t:value or a similar format)? Ideally I should be able to suggest the flags based on an argument of that command.
For example /command first will have the flags --name --location, but /command second will have only --name

Edit: I'll try cloud

[bright flax]

aikar might have some stuff for that
ik a dev on a server i worked on loved it a lot https://github.com/aikar/commands

[agile galleon]

Lamp

[cinder flare]

yeah Cloud or Lamp

i've fallen in love with Cloud recently for it's annotation syntax

[compact perch]

That's Cloud computing for ya, it's got you all misty-eyed!

[cinder flare]

TRUE

[bright flax]

how do i change "c418 - music name" via texture pack ona zip?

[distant sun]

Can i get around Caused by: java.lang.IncompatibleClassChangeError: Found class org.bukkit.block.banner.PatternType, but interface was expected on paper 1.20.4? In spigot-api 1.21.1 it is an interface, but in paper 1.20.4 it is still an enum 😦

welp, reflections will do it

    if (PatternType::class.java.isInterface) {
        return name()
    }

    return PatternType::class.java.getMethod("name").invoke(this) as String```

[pastel imp]

Doesnt triumph have that

[static zealot]

It does have named arguments. I am not sure about suggesting the arguments though.

[ocean quartz]

It does

Both named and flags, and suggestions

[cerulean ibex]

you could have two classes compiled against each api if u want to avoid nasty reflection

then u gotta deal with nasty build configurations and nasty version checking tho

[distant sun]

toString() works fine actually, the name is all I need

[crude cloud]

should serialize by its NamespacedKey

ah well but it wasn't data driven before

[distant sun]

yeah I know, but it is for a plugin that creates configs for other plugins and they use the name

[foggy pond]

Has any of you guys figured out how to disable the automatic creation of the test submodule for gradle projects in IntelliJ?

It's very annoying as it's not applicable for minecraft plugins (at least to me)

[ocean quartz]

Idk, I normally just create a folder copy a build.gradle.kts into it the incude it on settings.gradle.kts and then after create the src/main/java folder on my own

[flint crow]

is there a list with all the entity ai goals on spigot javadocs? cause i cant find the ai goals

[distant sun]

I don't think spigot has api for ai goal

https://jd.papermc.io/paper/1.21.1/com/destroystokyo/paper/entity/ai/GoalType.html

[flint crow]

womp womp :/

[distant sun]

Does anyone have free resources on modrinth and make some money from the ads system? If so, how popular are they and how much $$?

[pastel imp]

I only have a single plugin that isn't also that much of a need so it doesn't get that much trafic but yeah

the spike in the revenue is because of the new ad system

[distant sun]

cool, thanks!

[pastel imp]

Also, those dates are a bit wrong, I posted this about 6 months ago.

And it's all fully organic too.

[wind patio]

yeah thats like.. nothing

[half harness]

24 cents from 2 years 🥲

[wintry plinth]

Goals

[half harness]

oh

[pastel imp]

yeah ik, it's not a plugin that will get many views lol

https://modrinth.com/plugin/runway

It's a very specific use case, not many will be interested in it.

[rotund egret]

I think the KotlinForForge guy posted how much they made, lemme see if I can find

[distant sun]

One version had 1.1M downloads ☠️

[half harness]

btw this is unrelated but howd you make the logo?

or get

[pastel imp]

Figma

made it myself

[half harness]

ooooo nice

[wind patio]

which do yall prefer and why?

.stream()
.map(x -> {
  if(someCondition) {
    return someValidObject;
  }
  return null;
})
.filter(Objects:nonNull)

or

.stream()
.map(x -> {
  if(someCondition) {
    return Optional.of(someValidObject);
  }
  return Optional.empty();
})
.filter(Optional::isPresent)
.map(Optional::get)

[cinder flare]

.map {
  if (condition) it else null
}.filterNotNull()```

[ocean quartz]

Imagine not using

.mapNotNull {
  if (condition) it else null
}

[rotund egret]

.mapNotNull {
  it.takeIf { condition }
}

😏

[ocean quartz]

So true

[cinder flare]

mmm kotlin

[cold prawn]

🤮 kotlin (im about to get pelted)

[prisma wave]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/892094759806599230/1195023221288878091/image0.gif?ex=65b27b1a&is=65a0061a&hm=ab0b401ec8e08d93f2a96ed1109525af99d17be2e7640a14d64d5ac9d70665ea&

[ocean quartz]

Nah, you can hate on it, it's your loss

[cerulean ibex]

in terms of looks, this

.stream()
.flatMap(x -> {
  if (someCondition) {
    return Stream.of(someValidObject);
  }
  else Stream.empty();
})
```because it shows that each value is maps to a single value or no value

also ignore that i used else as a return

[prisma wave]

doesn’t Optional make that much clearer

single value / no value

[cerulean ibex]

yeah but u cant flat map it

well in one step at least

[prisma wave]

that’s true

[cerulean ibex]

you coudl replace

.filter(Optional::isPresent)
.map(Optional::get)
```with 
```java
.flatMap(Optional::stream)
```ig

[prisma wave]

kinda cute

[cerulean ibex]

me?

ty

[cold prawn]

ur very cute sparky

[potent nest]

.stream()
.mapMulti((x, c) -> {
  if(someCondition) {
    c.accept(x);
  }
})

🤓

[prisma wave]

sorry my heart is reserved for roy my beloved

[prisma wave]

Whoa since when was that a thing

[cerulean ibex]

what the fuck 😭

[cinder flare]

yeah that's wild lol

what does the collection look like, a map?

[potent nest]

Java 16

https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/23/docs/api/java.base/java/util/stream/Stream.html#mapMulti(java.util.function.BiConsumer)

it's similar to flatMap but doesn't require a stream

[crude cloud]

mapMulti is epic

but also BiConsumer<T, Consumer<R>> is funny

[wind patio]

Bi 🏳️‍🌈 Consumer

[cinder flare]

iconic

[safe crescent]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1040793311939678208/1103880881665474622/speed.gif

i like java

and kotlin

both good

[crude cloud]

I like to sleep

[safe crescent]

oversleeping/sleeping through the day is a sign of depression

well not always

i sometimes sleep up to 14 hours throughout the day cause i like nights

[cinder flare]

bro instantly invalidates their own point lmao

[reef maple]

Nice, i know what I must fix now

[safe crescent]

no i didnt

https://www.dbsalliance.org/education/ask-the-doc/my-daughter-cant-get-out-of-bed/#:~:text=The cause and effect go,run in the opposite direction.

im just not the standard

[cinder flare]

ah lmao

[half sparrow]

Looking for a dev add me up

[inner umbra]

#1279692879492812810 & #1279692880973140020

[half harness]

or #1279692880335867924

[bronze pasture]

Someone still alive? 😳

[inner umbra]

Yo!
Yeah I'm not around as much (PC atleast) but still constantly here lol

[bronze pasture]

What you been up to

[foggy pond]

Bump

[inner umbra]

Working everyday. Wbu?

[bronze pasture]

Working on commissions, started streaming again :>

[inner umbra]

Nice

[wind patio]

Thoughts on deno v2?

seems pretty nice

[prisma wave]

I have no thoughts on this matter

[junior coral]

I need help to handle some jobs if anyone is located in the same time zones. USA, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Argentina.

[agile galleon]

#1279692880973140020

[crude cloud]

"in the same time zones"

UK
Australia

[prisma wave]

they are quite close, to be fair

[distant sun]

Yup, on the same planet

[brittle leaf]

im assuming live in those timezones specifically

probs want 24hr coverage

[soft remnant]

hi, question, to make the Witch entity have custom potion effects, would I have to use NMS and NBT?

researching I got to this, but I don't have how to pass the tag to the nmsCraftItemStack, since it returns tags : Stream<TagKey<Item>>.

  val randomPotion = Utils.createItemStack(Material.SPLASH_POTION, 1, false, difficulty)
  val potionMeta = randomPotion.itemMeta as PotionMeta
  
  val tag = CompoundTag()
  val listTag = ListTag()
  
  val customEffects = potionMeta.customEffects.first()
  val poisonEffect = CompoundTag()
  poisonEffect.putString("id", "minecraft:poison")
  poisonEffect.putInt("Amplifier", customEffects.amplifier)
  poisonEffect.putInt("Duration", customEffects.duration)
  
  listTag.add(poisonEffect)
  tag.put("CustomPotionEffects", listTag)
  
  val nmsItemStack = CraftItemStack.asNMSCopy(randomPotion)

[obsidian island]

I have a question, why can't I send video clips or pictures on DM after the update? Plus calls are muted sometimes I can't hear it or sometimes they can't hear me?

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

Looking for discord support?
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If you require support from discord, we recommend you to visit their official support website at https://support.discord.com
On this website, you can read their FAQs, or open a support ticket if necessary.

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[distant sun]

@obsidian island

[brazen ether]

installed java 23 and i'm getting segfaults... in java.. :misery:

[cold prawn]

i got that like 3 days ago

everything worked fine besides my one server that has 8gb of ram allocated to it

it ended up being because i had errors in my ram

changed the stick and was fine

[potent nest]

when running minecraft/paper?

[brazen ether]

i just changed to java 21 and hoping it works

[brazen ether]

yes

[potent nest]

can you share the hs_err file?

[brazen ether]

yea, in class right now but i will later

[potent nest]

are you running it on linux?

[cold prawn]

ur pc or hosted hardware?

[cinder flare]

that's weird lol, been using java 21 for months and it's been superb

[crude cloud]

well

the issue is with 23 lmao

[cinder flare]

well yeah idk why it would do that lol

just saying i've been using a newer java version than most and it's been good

so dunno what's up with 23 or what they let slide

[brazen ether]

my mac

[brazen ether]

mac

i migrated my data from my old mac pro

and this one is m1

i installed java 23 for arm64 and it started crashing :>

[brazen ether]

is it safe to post all of it?

[potent nest]

not sure, it theoretically might contain sensitive data

[potent nest]

did it crash there multiple times?

[brazen ether]

it crashed after 5-40 seconds after server startup like maybe 5 times?

i switched to 21 but haven't tested it

[potent nest]

The only Java 23 crash I'm aware atm in the context of minecraft is https://github.com/async-profiler/async-profiler/issues/923 but that looks different

[cinder flare]

yeah that looks like a mac specific issue

it faults on _platform_strcmp

what distribution are you using? i didn't see any specific one in the screenshot, but it might be worth like trying the Adoptium AArch64 one?

[junior coral]

I need help to handle some jobs if anyone is located in the same time zones. USA, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Argentina.

[obtuse gale]

im in a us timezone but im not in us

12:46pm for me

dm me the jobs needed?

[junior coral]

plz dm me

for a detail

[dry harbor]

#1279692880973140020 or #1279692879492812810

Just for reference

[calm flower]

Any web dev here who's familiar with front end? I need a question answered ASAP please

[cerulean ibex]

whats the question

[calm flower]

It's related to design, made a design for navbar but I'm not sure what should I do for the hover/active effect on that thing in the actual code.

[calm flower]

mainly this curve

[calm flower]

@cerulean ibex you here?

[cerulean ibex]

im here but i couldnt rly give u any advice

but now that uve said what ur question maybe someone who has a better answer than me can help u

[calm flower]

Oh ok thanks!

[misty sorrel]

How to make a skript that doesnt allow any commands exept /afk and /login (password and /register (passowrd) and /spawn ?

[pastel imp]

Ew, cracked server detected

• skript

[knotty basin]

How to prevent sugar cane from dropping?
I have a loop that iterates to y 255 and then replaces cane above the broken cane with air, but sugar cane somehow still drops...?

If I don't replace it with air, nothing happens no cane drops and it doesn't get replaced, so the code definitely replaces it with air.

[wind patio]

well if you bothered to look for the solution online its one google search away
regardless, listen to block break event
if its a sugarcane, cancel it, then recursively loop, checking if the above block is a sugarcane, terminate otherwise, collect the locations, for each of them set block to air, starting from the top.

[potent nest]

Yeah you probably have to start at the top if dropping happens instantly

[brazen ether]

commiting sins

[prisma wave]

🥴

[potent nest]

that's why we can't have nice things

[crude cloud]

constructors: exist

[rotund egret]

Real

That's why I don't use them

[jagged axle]

Does anyone know of a free chunk collector plugin that works or from /ware

[pastel imp]

gotta love gradle

multi project projects harder than I thought

lol

[rotund egret]

🤔

[brazen ether]

Please god no

Jesus fucking Christ this should be illegal

[wind patio]

you mean multi-module?

[final crypt]

Hi everyone, i am currently offering a free website design service with the aim of building my brand and portfolio for future clients and company projects.

By offering my service for free, i would be expecting your positive feedback abut my skills as this will help me on the long run.

If you are open to give me a feedback by getting my free service, kindly reach out today.

[pastel imp]

Yes

[wind patio]

well, it kinda is but it's not

[cerulean ibex]

erm actually its multi project

[wind patio]

well imo if it's a codebase that revolves around the same idea and builds into one final jar via different modules, it's a multi-module

if you have different unrelated projects it's a multi project, for ex. in intellij you can link multiple gradle projects.

[ocean quartz]

Gradle calls it all projects, so it is multi-project

[wind patio]

IDEA calls it modules, so it's multi-module 🤓 ☝️

[ocean quartz]

But you're using gradle to set it up and gradle to build therefore you go with gradle

[wind patio]

I am adding modules via intellij "New Module" so it's the IDE that's adding it

https://tenor.com/view/pon-gif-15097379091171620462

[potent nest]

let's call it workspace

[wind patio]

nerd alert

vscode user detected

[cerulean ibex]

"intellijs wrong so im right"

[pastel imp]

Lol I mean, some subprojects are independent lol

I have a minestom plugin system and I want each subproject to be a plugin

But should be fine, matt already supplied me with good guidances

Will take a look at it today

[warm echo]

victim.teleportAsync(domain.getCorner2());
victim.setNoDamageTicks(0);```

im getting an unexpected thing when i teleport the player

then the player having invulnability for like

5 seconds

i have tried to use Player#setNoDamageTicks to 0 but that doesnt work

can anyone help please ?

[vernal obsidian]

this is genius

I need to get my server onto something like this

[cold prawn]

i feel like at that point just make a script that compiles multiple projects, unless im missing the point

[vernal obsidian]

Hmm I could ngl

But it's more so it's easier for new devs to adapt to the system

So more devs will be willing to join

[cold prawn]

I mean i dont really see the point of compiling multiple standalone plugins at once

other than convience

i would argue its just complexity

if you have like mega dependency chain with plugins, then sure

but if u dont then i dont see point

[rotund egret]

You can still do them individually, and it'll compile dependents if any.

[rotund egret]

Setup can be a tad complex for unfamiliar gradle users, but once you know what you're doing it's kinda cookie-cutter

pre-compiled scripts and the dependency-catalog make things significantly easier to provide to your projects as well

[spice linden]

voteparty i need help with this plugin

[vernal obsidian]

Explain

[vernal obsidian]

Legit just this

[spice linden]

well ive uploaded the .jar on my plugins folder, restarted the server multiple times, and it doesnt create its folder , which means isnt installed

[crude cloud]

do YOU have any ERRORS in the SERVER LOG during startup?

[vernal obsidian]

Download any known dependencies check version and give us errors

[spice linden]

what are the dependencies? may i have a link please?

[spice linden]

none, it just doesnt make a folder, ive just uploaded the voteparty.jar, and nothing happened

restarted multiple times etc

[vernal obsidian]

It's likely listed on the spigot page I am not familiar enough with the plugin yo have them memorized

[spice linden]

okay will check it out, thanks

[spice linden]

ive checked cant find a solution

( also there are fake people who send invites with "ticket tool" to "help" people in order to scam them, be aware )

[upper flax]

is there a way to change the movement speed while floating?
I tried using velocity from a PlayerMoveEvent but it didn't worked well

if (velocity.getX() > 0) {
    velocity.setX(velocity.getX() * 2);
}
if (velocity.getZ() > 0) {
    velocity.setZ(velocity.getZ() * 2);
}
player.setVelocity(velocity);

[hoary heron]

heyo question, does anyone know a plugin which allows you to craft custom recipes, and disable vanilla recipes? i really can't find anythingh half-decent, customcrafting is broken on 1.21

[spice linden]

so?

[wind patio]

https://github.com/PaperMC/paperweight-test-plugin/blob/master/build.gradle.kts

specifically the plugins section

plugins {
  `java-library`
  id("io.papermc.paperweight.userdev") version "1.7.3"
  id("xyz.jpenilla.run-paper") version "2.3.1" // Adds runServer and runMojangMappedServer tasks for testing
  id("xyz.jpenilla.resource-factory-bukkit-convention") version "1.2.0" // Generates plugin.yml based on the Gradle config
}

[crude cloud]

half of that is not needed

you just need run-paper, resource-factory nor userdev aren't needed to run a server from a task

[wind patio]

well, I assumed it was obvious that you only need a plugin called "...run-paper"

tho overkill from my part

[spice linden]

so any help with my situation? ive uploaded the .jar file on my plugins folder, restarted the server and its not creating its own folder so its not installed

[oblique heath]

is this another miranda situation