dev-general

[safe crescent]

hm lets see, oh yeah he talked about porn on a train

[brazen ether]

fair

[rotund egret]

average lifespan is like 60-80, and the brain doesn't fully develop until like 25ish. Idk what to tell you 17 is a kid

oop my bad, scrolling from top 😩

[safe crescent]

in the uk at 16 you can be trialed as an adult 🤷‍♂️

same with being able to join the army, drink alcohol, drive (17)

and other stuff

[crude cloud]

ok

[pastel imp]

Cool story bro

[sterile frigate]

Does anyone know why this won't spawn an item display sword with custom model data? It just shows a regular sword
/summon minecraft:item_display ~ ~1 ~ {item:{id:"minecraft:iron_sword",Count:1,tag:{CustomModelData:2}}}

[remote goblet]

1.21?

[normal talon]

is Minimessage relaible for hexcolor convertion?

[rotund egret]

I love minimessage

[normal talon]

do you know how to use it? cuz can't figure it out yet

[rotund egret]

https://docs.advntr.dev/minimessage/format.html

[normal talon]

thanks.

[rotund egret]

Yes 🙂

[half harness]

btw theres also https://webui.advntr.dev/

[normal talon]

so if i import the libary I don't have to do anycoding?

[rotund egret]

Well if you're using spigot you'll probably have to use the platform dep for it, which is community maintained so latest updates are iffy.

If you use Paper it's much easier

[normal talon]

So what is the differnce between spigot plugin and paper plugins. aren't they the same papers performance is better?

[rotund egret]

Spigot is a little outdated in a few ways, this being one of them. The component system is used in Vanilla, so Adventure kind of represents how it works closer than how spigot does.

Paper also introduces some extra API that makes for nicer development work.

There are also perf tweaks yes.

[normal talon]

so if I do a paper plugin a spigot server won't support it ?

[rotund egret]

I don't believe so, not without extra work on your behalf

[normal talon]

alr I going to use paper 🙂

bruh paper only on gradle?

[half harness]

wdym
you have to implement minimessage: https://docs.advntr.dev/minimessage/api.html

[half harness]

no

only paperweight (nms/craftbukkit stuff)

[rotund egret]

Use gradle anyway though :^)

[half harness]

🙃

[normal talon]

I used to code for minecraft like 2 years ago, so much changed and I just started learning OOPD in java

[rotund egret]

Welcome back, all the cool kids use Gradle, Paper, and Kotlin.
2/3 is the way to go for sure, but 3/3 is badass

[normal talon]

well Im learning java in school

maybe next year transiton into Kotlin

[rotund egret]

So close

[normal talon]

close?

[half harness]

btw i wouldn't recommend this for now

although ig you can use it if you want

its just that if you run into an issue, less people will know about it

[normal talon]

hmm, so the rest is good to go ?

[ocean quartz]

Gradle is love, Gradle is life

[half harness]

make sure to change the Name from untitled 🙃

[normal talon]

yea iknow

[rotund egret]

main class should probably be your group name, but otherwise looks fine

[normal talon]

org.example -> me.cozyleprechaun94?

[rotund egret]

sure

[half harness]

waaaaaait

if you already have the plugin

[half harness]

why are you making another

oh is it to get the template

fair

👍

[normal talon]

🙂

looks good the last picture?

Alr haha

Bruh paper doesnt have 1.21 yet

[half harness]

🤨

it doesn't?

[normal talon]

Get Paper 1.20.6

latest build

[half harness]

theres experimental builds

for 1.21

wait you shouldn't be downloading the jar

[normal talon]

I want to have a server to test the plugin tho:)

[half harness]

ohhhhhh

lol

ignore me then

[rotund egret]

gotta toggle the experimental builds

[half harness]

btw idk if this was mentioned already but note that paper has both minimessage and adventure included, so I see that you have it in your pom.xml - you don't need it in the build.gradle(.kts)

[normal talon]

can someone send me the link, im blind af

[rotund egret]

https://papermc.io/downloads/paper

[half harness]

https://api.papermc.io/v2/projects/paper/versions/1.21/builds/37/downloads/paper-1.21-37.jar

[normal talon]

well Im going to use gradle

oh, so I dont have to put the dependency in the build file?

[half harness]

not for adventure and minimessage no

[rotund egret]

Paper is cool like that

[normal talon]

oh alr

[half harness]

also spigot already includes commons-lang3 (I see that you have it in your pom.xml)

[normal talon]

W paper

[ocean quartz]

jpenilla run-paper moment

[normal talon]

wut?

[rotund egret]

Gradle plugin to run test server for paper

[ocean quartz]

https://github.com/jpenilla/run-task

[normal talon]

uuh what is dis

oh so I dont need to have a server

[normal talon]

eey jo that gradle stuff takes long to build

what is build.gradle(.kts)

i only have build.gradle file

[ocean quartz]

You're using groovy Gradle, .kts is Kotlin Gradle

[normal talon]

oh does it matter for the jpenilla?

https://paste.helpch.at/uzeguwurif.java this is build.gradle

[crude cloud]

until you trip on it and it spits on your face

and every thing you try is a nightmare

and then you find a simple solution to the problem

and it's a blessing

[normal talon]

why are my files looking like that. i don't know if that is the issue but nothing get autocompleted and the code looks really confusing

[long dagger]

it appears IntelliJ hasnt detected it as a "gradle project" and simply a set of files.

If you open the folder in explorer and double click on the build.gradle file, and open with intellij, it should be fixed

[normal talon]

also my gradle doesnt transfrom workspace stuff or something

I don't know what that error means

[half harness]

Btw right click build gradle file in intellij and there should be like a link project button or smth

[long dagger]

didnt know that

[half harness]

:))

[half harness]

But I also didn't know you could do it like this so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[normal talon]

I tried still didn't find the paper documents

bruh what?

[half harness]

Low disk space 🪦

[half harness]

Wdym
But I think you should fix this issue first 🥲

[normal talon]

https://paste.helpch.at/qobadikexe.scss

[half harness]

Uhhhhhhh

[normal talon]

wait is gradle downloaded on the C drive -_-

[ocean quartz]

Wtf

[half harness]

Wait mib

[normal talon]

yea its on the fk C drive 😦

[half harness]

You can probably change it in the gradle properties file in user directory gradle folder or smth

[normal talon]

amazing

[half harness]

Sorry I'm on mobile so I can't really go in detail

[normal talon]

my gradle properties is empty

[ocean quartz]

47mb C drive, your system will explode if it sneezes

[normal talon]

yea , If im correct you can transform some memory right?

[half harness]

Ye that means it uses default options

Idk if there's an option to move loc but there should

If not then symlinks

:))

[normal talon]

im going to get a headache

I was wondering why my laptop was so fk slow

my gradle.zip or something is in downloads ....

I can't allocate more memory cuz they ain't on the same DISK bruh

[normal talon]

well im using another drive for my IDE's and stuff I had 500gb free space apperantly sitting there.

[cold prawn]

Is there a way to change ore generation in mc, ive seen some plugins do it, but more looking for maybe a datapack approach or something similiar?

[crude cloud]

datapacks are the way to go honestly, they make it so much easier to tune things from the vanilla generation, if you're making a plugin basically you have to make generation from scratch

[brazen ether]

me when minecraft code java private static final float field_32727 = 0.0f; private static final float field_32728 = 0.0f; private static final float field_32729 = 0.04f; private static final float field_32730 = 0.0f; private static final float field_32731 = 0.004f; private static final float field_32732 = 0.0f; private static final float field_32733 = 0.2f; private static final float field_32734 = 0.1f;

thank you game.

[crude cloud]

not using mojang mappings nauseated_face

[brazen ether]

u are right

i'm using yarn mappings

[long dagger]

I have a client who is experiencing issues where my plugin (which adds text displays on top of entities) having heights of the text displays vary. The varying depends on the models used (like wings on the players back). How does items adder add models like that? Are they passengers?

[inner umbra]

You can check the host the player is joining through. Then make sure it's the proxy.

Idk about kubernetes but you could look into sub-servers 2 and all it's addons. Makes it easy to spin up servers with templates and control servers from the proxy.

[vast moat]

hi guys im using imageonmap plugin but when i get my map i only get one map ?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/289587909051416579/1256301741041914019/image.png?ex=668045ac&is=667ef42c&hm=d313f7fc80eb45998be635af903263d1473d3afb847c3128b4565d68b451ff32&

[brazen ether]

are you developing the plugin?

no?

then go to #1007620980627230730

[oblique heath]

impromptu poll: REST API format preferences
api.example.com/v1
example.com/api/v1

[solid lodge]

whats a really good plugin for custom currency that works perfectly with DeluxeMenus?

[distant sun]

Any

[tawdry monolith]

Hi, i run a server with a proxy and lifesteal.
i am facing an issue that whenever a player is going to overworld he is getting instantly disconnecting and on rejoin also gets disconnect.
the player works fine in spawn world but not in overworld.
i even deleted the world but it doesnt works.

any help?

[brazen ether]

is there an error message in the console when the player is disconnected

and what reason does the client get when they are disconnected

[tawdry monolith]

No error

[tawdry monolith]

Connection Reset

[brazen ether]

damn thats weird

[tawdry monolith]

Yea ik

[autumn vine]

https://paste.helpch.at/uxofozazew.md

Need help please
https://paste.helpch.at/lebeyijizi.md

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

Spigot Account Linking
To get support for a premium plugin owned by Clip or Glare you will need to verify your spigot account using /spigot in the #bot-commands channel. After you have successfully linked your spigot account you should ask your question in the coresponding channel for that plugin. If you have already linked your account and want to update your roles, run this command /spigot check.

Requested by: gabytm • spigot

[distant sun]

@autumn vine

[brazen ether]

@spare shoal you should add Roll

to the gliders

like when you turn have it rotate in the opposite direction

[spare shoal]

Sounds like a challenging idea 🤔, I will definitely look into this! I think that it would make the glider a bit more challenging and funner, thanks for the suggestion 🙂

[crisp briar]

Hey i am looking into buying a Ubuntu Server which i can host minecraft servers on what hoster and packet would you reccomend ?

[brazen ether]

it could just be a visual thing

[heady goblet]

does deluxmenus support gradiant colors??

[flint crow]

you will need to use a gradient generator for that

https://alonsoaliaga.github.io/generator/

with the &# format

it supports minimessage for the actions: [minimessage] n [minibroadcast]

it wont work for the display name and lore of an item

[distant sun]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ksBNx1vBm_0?si=SA4dVN5H5-SEaDMZ

[heady goblet]

uhm

you guys are overthinking this

i tried it without anything

worked fine

[crystal sun]

looking for someone whos good at making 3d models

[distant sun]

#1257956028063027243 @crystal sun

[crystal sun]

oh mb

[brazen ether]

:3

[safe crescent]

i just bought an raspberyy pi

gonna try get into hardware coding

[brazen ether]

i should get a doctorate in computer science just for that Dr. prefix

and marry someone with a good last name..

[rotund egret]

Honorary doctorates tbh

[brazen ether]

I feel like those are a lil special

[rotund egret]

I got one

[brazen ether]

really?

as an award for what?

[rotund egret]

My research into economicals

[brazen ether]

that sounds miserable

though probably good money

[rotund egret]

I made no money. It's the study of frugality, so it's actually helpful that I am poor

[brazen ether]

don't programmers in economy make a lot of money?

I know a dude who recommended me that field who was making $300k and definitely lived like it

[rotund egret]

Nice

I'm a hobby programmer

Which also makes no money

Pairs nice

[brazen ether]

rip

[wintry plinth]

Zodd’s got his lambo outside

[rotund egret]

Shhhh

[cinder flare]

damn, I didn't know he was a Laravel developer!

[wintry plinth]

Of course, Zodds got it all covered 🚗

[brazen ether]

what's that performance analyzer tool i see people using when writing plugins

Spark>

?

like something to see which part of my code is actually taking up the most time?

i thought i saw something like that here but i don't remember

[wind patio]

spark

[brazen ether]

kk

[scarlet geyser]

Anyone have knowledge on Hostings and Panels

Please dm me

I need some help

And I don’t know how to fix it

[lavish notch]

Please be more specific rather than have 20 people DM you the same questions.

[brazen ether]

just read his mind bro

[scarlet geyser]

So basically right when I sign into winscp it times out and I ask my developer who owns the hosting he does not know how to fix it

[scarlet geyser]

Sorry :(

[lavish notch]

What hosting are you with? If the SFTP credentials are invalid, that sounds like an issue on the hosting end.

[scarlet geyser]

It’s a newer hosting I could sign in perfectly fine yesterday I don’t really know the problem neither my developer

[lavish notch]

Only your 'developer' can help and if they're clueless, you're a bit screwed.

[scarlet geyser]

lol.

[brazen ether]

its okay sweet cheeks :>

[scarlet geyser]

:(

[brazen ether]

🫀

[cinder flare]

winscp, in the year 2024

amazing

[lavish notch]

WinSCP is very nice.

Heck, I still got PuTTY installed.

[cinder flare]

i know it can do more than SCP, but i always cringe when i see it

though iirc openssh recently changed their scp to just be sftp under the hood

but yeah i can't relate honestly, i just use windows terminal + wsl with normal ssh/sftp

[scarlet geyser]

Panel having problems using it temporarily

Problem?

[cinder flare]

just an old program and an old protocol lmao

[scarlet geyser]

Okay

[rotund egret]

Anyone know of any IJ plugins that renders minecraft blocks/entities in a tab view or something like that?

[static zealot]

render them from textures?

[rotund egret]

I was thinking from code, but thinking on it that seems very specific
Textures are optional, I care more about visualizing transformations.
So I guess a website that does that would be just fine, It'd just be nice to pick up configurations from a builder in the IDE.

Yeah I found a couple web ones, those'll do for now, thanks

[ocean quartz]

If you have a web one you could just do an IJ plugin using JCEF (which it supports) and embed the website as a window on IJ :')
Unironically would take you like 30 minutes to do

[rotund egret]

Considering it, I've been reading over the documentation.
Never used JCEF before, but It looks fairly simple

[ocean quartz]

I did a plugin using it just to learn like years ago, if I can find the source I can send it to you, but I doubt I'll :'))

[rotund egret]

Oh you're right, I actually got it
Took 6 minutes to load the website, but it works pretty okay

[wintry plinth]

Speaking of such, I’m looking for where I can download the Minecraft textures that are rendered. So instead of the stone texture, I’d like to get the picture of the block like it shows up as in the inventory

Not sure where to go or look

[static zealot]

So, item textures are located in assets/minecraft/textures/items but blocks are located in assets/minecraft/textures/block. Those are used for rendering in-game blocks and also inventory items. The models are in assets/minecraft/models/block

[pastel imp]

don't think that's a picture, think they work similar to how heads work, they render the model and rotate them

[static zealot]

There's like 2 or 3 base models that most blocks are rendered based on

minecraft:block/cube_column and minecraft:block/cube_all

[static zealot]

yeah

[wintry plinth]

Oh I didn’t know this, thanks I’ll check it out tomorrow. As I want to get the image for each block type

Like stone, iron ore etc

[brazen ether]

just copy paste the Minecraft code for rendering blocks

or

just write a python script or something to do it

tho that'd be hard with the more complicated block models

[kind pike]

Hey guys i want to make a power selector with deluxe menu where you can click and it will give you a classe but i want some class locked and to unlock them you have to paye with a ingame currency and when you pay it its unlocked for life how do i do this ?

and like the unlocked slot is a slot that i can put a custom command when you click

[quiet depot]

when I was on windows winscp was my tool of choice too tbh, never used it for scp tho

I just preferred its ui to filezilla

on linux now tho.. just drop a sftp://servername into the file path in the file explorer

I did use something that allowed me to sftp in windows file explorer too at some point, can't remember what it was called

wasn't quite as smooth as it is on linux, I just used it to mount my home server as a consistent drive in windows

[crude cloud]

didn't FileZilla get full of adware at one point or something?

I remember the official installer being very sketchy lol

[cinder flare]

yes definitely lol

[wind patio]

winscp my best choice, filezilla is kinda ass

on ubuntu I use Krusader

[lavish notch]

Filezilla just has too many boxes for a new user.

WinSCP is nice and simple.

Although, I'm slowly becoming a criminal with RemoteSSH VSCode extension.

[wind patio]

VSCode as sftp client 💀

that IS crimical

[distant sun]

Tbh I wanted to use VSC for sftp while I was making servers, just so I can open the config files directly with it

[rotund egret]

Why not tbh, config files are no less development from the IDE perspective, and having a secondary text editor for that purpose is bloat

[half harness]

what do you do if you spend hours working on something... then you find out that someone already made another completed version with a ton of features 😭

i feel like software for literally everything exists now

[inner umbra]

You continue to make it because it feels better to use something you made yourself.

[ocean quartz]

Try it out, see if you like it, if you do use it, if not keep working on yours

[wintry plinth]

What is it that you’ve made?

[rotund egret]

When I ported KT-Script to Paper only for Matt to Link Bukkript :^)

I still have plans for it, I'll just take a different approach while taking hints from things they do better in other parts.
It's just less on my radar now

[remote goblet]

im completely unoriginal so i like remaking other peoples stuff but imo better

[placid rose]

Hi, anybody has experience with custom item stats in MMOItems?

[modest bramble]

with autosell do i have to setup a sell region in order for the autosell to work?

[wintry plinth]

Honestly I’d release it, there’s always ways to improve on existing products to make them better

[half harness]

true
tbh I don't want to share yet so sorry I didn't respond with anything before 🥲 but once I finish, I bet there's probably going to be something I can improve on

[wintry plinth]

Is it a plugin or web based thing?

[placid rose]

?

I really need help for something, do I have to write an expansion plugin? If so is there anything I should know? Thanks alot

[half harness]

web

[rotund egret]

Probably

[safe crescent]

yes

tho ur better off using roblox's toolbox

what u need ill probably have it

considering ive been coding on roblox for probably around 8 ish years

[jagged berry]

What do you guys think is a good salary for a Minecraft Server Developer?

[sly sonnet]

20$/hour minimum

[elder smelt]

Hey what do you guys think the best budget friendly advertising method would be?

[oblique heath]

make your own (short form?) media content and garner an audience

[hazy egret]

Hiring minecraft paid server developers

Urgently needed

@everyone

[ocean quartz]

Yeah at least 20$/h

[ocean quartz]

Use #1257956028063027243

[dry harbor]

Contrary to popular belief you don’t need to spend tons of money on marketing

Short form content is great, posts on forums and place like Reddit helps, anything organic really. Hiring YouTubers and stuff won’t work organically.

[safe crescent]

say the most controversial outlandish shit to get attention then make a shitty apology and capitalise on it

literally works every single time

[elder smelt]

lol

[safe crescent]

trust me it works

[dry harbor]

okay I got one

crunchy peanut butter is good

that’ll get me so much publicity 🙏

[safe crescent]

i mean to each their own

personally i dont even like peanut butter

[dry harbor]

nah that was definitely controversial

[safe crescent]

yeah if your like 13 and a band kid

[dry harbor]

uhhh who said I wasn’t?

[safe crescent]

😭

[oblique heath]

ive never tried crunchy peanut butter

[safe crescent]

personally i wouldnt mainly cause peanut butter tastes bad in my opinion

[dry harbor]

that’s crazy

[safe crescent]

and i could be very wrong but i think nut allergies is like the most common allergy

or one of the most

[oblique heath]

i'm allergic to bovine poop

[dry harbor]

Peanut butter and apples 💪

[safe crescent]

im allergic to nothing

im very lucky

[dry harbor]

I’m allergic to fruit

well

Over ripe fruit

[safe crescent]

what one though

ok

[dry harbor]

most of them

Overripe apples, watermelon, pears

Pineapple

[safe crescent]

the one thing apes are literally made to eat

and u cant eat it

[dry harbor]

Makes my throat itch a lot

I was lactose intolerant too but I grew out of that

[safe crescent]

thats good

funny how though fruit is the one thing apes are posed to eat

and yet some can still be allergic to it

other apes are mid tho, humans always on top

[jagged berry]

Really?! How can someone find those who are willing to pay $20/hour xD

[ocean quartz]

LinkedIn is probably a good start, Hypixel was hiring not too long ago, don't think they are anymore but you can find with patience

[jagged berry]

By the way, asking this to help a friend

Is it necessary for him to be a plugin dev?

[ocean quartz]

Not necessarily plugin, modding is needed by some too, but yes Java/Kotlin programmers is what we are talking about

[jagged berry]

Oh

what about YAML ones? like who knows how to create a good looking GUIs, tab lists, and setup servers?

[ocean quartz]

Oh that I have no idea, have never seen a big server/team hiring for that

[jagged berry]

Any expected range? (:

And thank you for your assistance!!

[ocean quartz]

Not sure about range for that, but probably not very high :')

[jagged berry]

No worries, thanks once again, and have a great day! (;

[half harness]

wait out of curiosity
who does that stuff then?

or do the big servers just custom code it..?

[ocean quartz]

Most big servers do custom stuff, but there are still configurations to do, but that's normally done by different people, for example game designers will configure mechanics, loot, drop rates, etc
Graphic designers will configure menus, and other art related things
But all those are more than "just configurators" configuring things is part of their job but it isn't their job if you know what I mean

[half harness]

ohh I see
I forgot those roles existed

[ocean quartz]

The idea of a "configurator" is pretty odd to me, since that's normally a shared job between other roles and having a single person do it kinda wastes time and makes it more complicated
A configurator is better for like creating setups and things like that

[slate elk]

Good hosts Asia

Ovh are scammers and assholes

Other suggestions 😛😋

[lavish notch]

There is your problem, Asia.

Infrastructure sucks unless you pay an arm and a leg.

[safe crescent]

• its asia

such a mid continent

[harsh ivy]

Mr. @eager fern idk but I was service muted without any reason, it's been approx a month.
Unmute me?

[pastel imp]

Lmao

[eager fern]

You tell me

You will be unmuted 30 days exactly from today

[rotund egret]

Tell you to unmute them?

[eager fern]

Stop interfering

[rotund egret]

Interfering is an interesting word

Didn't realize they didn't have a scroll wheel

[eager fern]

Why do you always join into stuff you aren’t apart of?

[rotund egret]

Public chat I guess

[eager fern]

Same with causing controversial arguments

[rotund egret]

Causing?

You might have to remind me unless you mean my last timeout

In any case, if you have a personal qualm, DMs are open.
Otherwise it's a public server and I interact with it fairly normally following your rules when you bring them up.

[pastel imp]

I assume you speaking with zodd or grandpa guy

Lol

[slate elk]

Ended up on special ISP with own routes

90$ a month on network only

POP communication

So eu get 140ms (Netherlands) using JSON method to check

And players from Asia around 50ms

Very good result

Ovh gived a result of 250ms from Netherlands to Singapore

Hetzner 320ms from Singapore

[brazen ether]

well tbf it is a public chat, if u want privacy go to dms about it

[eager fern]

We have rules in place for such stuff.

[harsh ivy]

Bro 💀. What's the reason tho?

[brazen ether]

if you don't want people joining into conversations in a public channel then you need a recap on how human societies work

anyway, #dev-general is wrong channel for this convo

[eager fern]

Wasting peoples time through service requests.

[harsh ivy]

Well you cannot decide that I guess.
Because I got people hired from the requests. And there were people ready for that job in low payouts.

So it means time wasn't wasted

[eager fern]

I can and I did

If you want we can discuss this further in dms with showing the proof shown to us

[harsh ivy]

If you did, it was wrong. There is not point discussing it in dms since I already tried appealing multiple times and got no response.

You guys are just gonna listen to bunch of randoms who think that was wrong. But trust me, people found what they were looking for and I found what I was looking for.

I was satisfied with request.

Over that, I didn't break any rule. I only posted one request per month for same thing.

I didn't expect this from the admins atleast.

Other bunch of randoms just keep roaming around all the way here and there whom I don't care about

[eager fern]

You requested a service offered pay through our channel when the freelancer approached your DMs you said you aren’t offering pay. Now you tell me what’s wrong with that..

[harsh ivy]

Mr. Adam. I requested paid one. And hired a paid dev. From that request.

After that, he (other dev) approached me so u told him we aren't doing paid anymore.

So it's not wrong right?

I only needed one paid dev which I got from ur request.

It's not compulsory to accept all devs know

Apart from that, he wasn't ready to work on our terms too.

I don't think anything is wrong on my side here

[safe crescent]

if u found a dev then just delete ur request

[safe crescent]

tho a 30 day mute for that is extreme....

[pastel imp]

Lmao

Wasn't this guy muted for extra time specifically because he complained about a small mute?

[safe crescent]

who, coolallrounder?

[rotund egret]

There are rules in place for such stuff

[harsh ivy]

Didn't knew it. Sorry

[harsh ivy]

Well. No one told me that I was being muted for short time.

[harsh ivy]

Ikr. And that could've been discussed on tickets or smth. Not just straight mute without telling any reason bruh

[safe crescent]

fr

[hoary lake]

wasn't there a program that makes resource pack creation easier

doing it manually is fine and all but i would imagine there's an easier method

[thorn crescent]

how do the placeholders work exactly?

when are they replaced with the actual value?

[inner umbra]

/minecraft:kill @e [type=cave_spider]

[crude cloud]

when you call PlaceholderAPI.setPlaceholders

[brazen ether]

try using google before asking questions

[brazen ether]

btw discord minimum age is 13 so if you're under that might wanna step off

[prisma wave]

Chill

[rotund egret]

Bros never seen a cat before

[quiet lichen]

lol

L that dude for being rude

[cerulean ibex]

youre* bro

[quiet lichen]

[crude cloud]

what if you wanted to
JNI_GetCreatedJavaVMs
but god said:

Creation of multiple VMs in a single process is not supported

[cerulean ibex]

fork java

[ocean quartz]

Time to kill god

[potent nest]

why do you want to JNI_GetCreatedJavaVMs

[crude cloud]

to get the created java vms

[potent nest]

[remote goblet]

thoughts and concerns ?

[potent nest]

java.io.File in 2024

[brazen ether]

use nio smh

[rotund egret]

Does init always do nothing it looks like?

Because otherwise it's always null on construction

And your extention method uses an arbitrary path that doesn't include the name from the constructor

So basically it's useless

[ocean quartz]

Yeah lmao

[remote goblet]

lmaooo

[static zealot]

wtf is going on in there

[tranquil crane]

can somebody take away Ori's coding license

[pastel imp]

lol

[tranquil crane]

is that a var in a data class oh the horror why is that even legal

[ocean quartz]

Not just a var in a data class, but a non-component one

[rotund egret]

How might I make a display entity scale from the center instead of a corner, I can't quite figure it out

[tranquil crane]

They scale from the corner? From what I've seen mine scale centered. what billboard constraint and text alignment are you using?

maybe I'm just wrong it's been a week since I've messed with them

[rotund egret]

It's a block display, I didn't change the billboard and it doesn't have text alignment, so fixed billboard I guess

https://i.imgur.com/gFoYm46.gif

Text seems to grow from the bottom by default, but it does look more centered than the block

https://i.imgur.com/ZexypdA.gif

[ocean quartz]

boing

[oblique heath]

https://tenor.com/view/boeing-boeing-logo-boeing-planes-boeing-futures-boeing-usa-gif-19217600

[tranquil crane]

weirdly item displays scale from the center, text displays scale from the center but are fixed at the bottom, and block displays scale from block's exact world location outwards from the corner (F3+B)

this is utterly cursed

[rotund egret]

I don't even know how i'd work around that. Teleporting the entity as its scaling to move the "anchor" point?

[tranquil crane]

why can't they be consistent

[ocean quartz]

That's hilarious

[tranquil crane]

use the translation property of the display entity

time for matrix math! it's probably just a linear offset with the scale though nevermind thought translation was a quaternion, it's a vector3

lemme see if I can get the block centered

setting a translation of -(scale/2) seems to do it for the x y z translation

at least for centering the block display

[rotund egret]

huh that seems odd, I'm sure it makes sense though

[tranquil crane]

for the block display you can align it to the bottom center by using a translation of
x: -(scale/2)
y: 0
z: -(scale/2)

it should animate from the center then

well, you'll have to apply the update to both the translation and the scale at the same time, but they should both interpolate

[rotund egret]

Yep perfect

Thanks so much

entity.offer(Keys.TRANSFORM,Transform.of((scale.div(2.0).negate())).scale(scale)) :^)

[tranquil crane]

to center the item display to get it to scale the same way you need to only apply the translation on the y value

[tranquil crane]

is that offer thing a paper api? I've never seen that before

[rotund egret]

Sponge

[tranquil crane]

I was not expecting sponge

[rotund egret]

A lot of crossover and more people here, so for general support it's easier to ask here 😛

[tranquil crane]

that does look very much like the sponge api does though so checks out

[crude cloud]

entity.offer ( Keys.TRANSFORM, Transform.of ( ( scale.div ( 2.0 ) .negate ( ) ) ) .scale ( scale ) )

ified

[tranquil crane]

no thanks

you're missing a D or F on that number

[crude cloud]

oh, thank you

[crude cloud]

entity.offer ( Keys.TRANSFORM, Transform.of ( ( scale.div ( 2.0D ) .negate ( ) ) ) .scale ( scale ) )

[rotund egret]

Suggestions for the same thing but for rotation? Seems a little more complicated

[slate elk]

It looks awful ngl

[rotund egret]

Ok, well if you have a suggestion for how to rotate a display entity around its center let me know

[brazen ether]

rotate the translation

didn't you study math

[brazen ether]

create a translation vector of negative half the size of the entity and rotate it by the rotation matrices

[rotund egret]

Not this kind of math tbqh

[brazen ether]

with regular size just make it a -0.5 translation in every direction

and then rotate it, and it works

@rotund egret java transformation.getLeftRotation(); Vector3f v = new Vector3f(0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f); v.rotate(transformation.getLeftRotation()); v.mul(-1); transformation.getTranslation().set(v); blockDisplay.setTransformation(transformation);

factor in right rotation too

important for anytime you wanna avoid gimbal lock

which is always

[rotund egret]

I ended up teleporting the entity a half step each block then translating it back a half step so it looks "correct" (This sets the "anchor" to the center)

Then I rotate the entity (not with translations) and translate it from its current (translation) position mul(-1) then subtract the half-step from earlier.

Ends up something like (psuedo)

// Spawn entity and set position
entity.setPosition(pos.add(.5,.5,.5))
entity.transform(Vector3d.ZERO.add(-.5,-.5,-.5))
// Apply rotation
entity.setRotation(0.0,45.0,0.0)
entity.transform(entity.transform.position().mul(-1).sub(.5,.5,.5)

https://i.imgur.com/7iCY1K6.gif

gif for funsies

[surreal garnet]

Just an Armour Stand and making it rotate, or am I being dense?

[rotund egret]

It's a block display, and the anchor originates in the corner so it defaultly rotates odd

[surreal garnet]

Block Display? Interesting

[rotund egret]

Display entities come in 3 flavors, block, item, and text. And they're lighter than armour stands

[surreal garnet]

Oooo

[rotund egret]

#dev-general message

This (kinda) shows off all 3 and their anchor points (the blue line)

[surreal garnet]

Yeah I’d normally do stuff with armour stands but I guess that’s what I’m used to doing.

Ah

[rotund egret]

That was the traditional way, 1.20.x introduced them IIRC

[surreal garnet]

Ohhhh okay

Makes sense why I haven’t really heard of it lol.

Might tinker with this after dinner, seems fun :3

[brazen ether]

does this even use the left and right rotation matrices

i'm guessing not

if you plan to do any kind of complex rotations this won't be a good solution anymore, but for simple stuff it works ya

[rotund egret]

Not super sure how Sponge transforms operate in the background tbh

I'll take a look later

[brazen ether]

quaternions are superior cause they don't have gimbal lock like euler angles and are just straight up faster and more precise than other stuff

[rotund egret]

That's pretty much what their api says too

Which they do have the ability to use them, I just don't really understand it all that well

[brazen ether]

i'd recommend watching a few videos on it if you want to understand how the rotations work

though realistically most of the time it doesn't matter

[rotund egret]

I saved a series somewhere that looked really good, I just need to dedicate the time

[brazen ether]

if you have the time then i'd recommend taking a real course on linear algebra

quaternions are part of that

if you're doing anything with game development or manipulating positions then it's good to knkow

[rotund egret]

It's a little late for that :p

[brazen ether]

never too late!

[rotund egret]

Also I'm like in the negatives kinda poor, so internet college is my path

[brazen ether]

lots of online courses for learning that kinda stuff

[rotund egret]

https://eater.net/quaternions

Here's the series I was gonna push through at some point.
The intractable videos are also convenient

[brazen ether]

i watched this, honestly it's

it's... okay

but i really would recommend something more rigorous that actually teaches you things properly

3b1b's series won't help you really actually implement solutions for things

[rotund egret]

If you have better resources I'm all for it.
This is the best (seemingly) I've come across so far

[crimson cloak]

how

[distant sun]

https://github.com/KyoriPowered/adventure-platform/issues/182 who else would complain about 1.7.10 if not HIM

[distant sun]

I want to work on a small website, mostly static I guess: a config converter tool.
Basically a select for the plugin you want to convert from and to and a set of inputs. For some plugins the amount of inputs will be 1:1 but some could be 1:(2/3). What technologies do you guys recommend for this? I know that can use any web framework, but I'm looking for smth small that can be hosted on vercel or whatever else exists and doesn't require a lot of configuration like a vpn.

[wintry plinth]

Use whatever works that you know best, rather than “what’s best”, as it’s often very opinionated

Nuxt is the go-to if you know Vue, the same way Next.js, Astro, etc are for React

[half harness]

I heard svelte was also pretty good
but I'm no web dev and as charlie said, it's very opinionated 🥲

[wintry plinth]

Oh yeah Svelte is another cool one I’ve heard. But honestly just comes down to preference.

I’d use what I enjoy, rather than what’s the “hottest thing”. The same reason I use PHP, it isn’t new, gets bashed a lot, but it works for me and that’s all that matters :D

[wind patio]

Theoretically old PHP gets bashed a lot

it was, well, pretty bad, back in the day

people fail to realize there are frameworks like laravel

although, even without frameworks, PHP has gotten a lot better over the years

[rotund egret]

Gotta toy with it a bit but I got it closer using quaternions, not quite sure what's happening but I'll give it another go later
https://imgur.com/xNZMBj4

[pastel imp]

svelte my beloved ❤️

tbf, Svelte's setup and usage is quite simple, ignoring my biased opinion, it sounds like a good fit for what's asked (it being minimal setup and easy usage if I understood correctly)

[rotund egret]

https://imgur.com/a/QN9gqMQ
Decided to give up trying to rotate block displays (for now) and just using item displays instead, which rotate MUCH easier without any additional translations

[wintry plinth]

To be honest, very true, for me I don't think I'd use PHP without Laravel

[ocean quartz]

I feel like every language get's bashed by certain communities, I mean I see even rust getting bashed quite often even though it's one of the most loved languages

On the topic of web, I rewrote my website and instead of using react like before I just decided to not use any frontend framework and just use htmx with ssr instead and it was one of the best decisions i've ever made

[wintry plinth]

Wow really, see I've always been a Laravel+Vue guy, but things like Framer Motion for animations always catches me to want to use Laravel+React. Always quite hard tbh.

Definitely feel like these days it's all preference, in the end they all achieve the same end goal.

[brazen ether]

if it works then it works!

[rotund egret]

Happy it does, makes understanding quaternions a little easier when the axis is centered by default like most example projections 😛

[wintry plinth]

@eager fern ^

[cerulean ibex]

someone should report to vercel

[eager fern]

thanks! was away from my PC

[brazen ether]

had to ask a friend in college for help with ts... code to detect if a point is inside a parallelogram in 3d space which it's coplanar with ```java
@Override
public boolean inside(Vector3d point) {
Matrix3d a = new Matrix3d(
pointB.x - origin.x, pointB.y - origin.y, pointB.z - origin.z,
pointC.x - origin.x, pointC.y - origin.y, pointC.z - origin.z,
(pointB.y - origin.y) * (pointC.z - origin.z) - (pointC.y - origin.y) * (pointB.z - origin.z), 1, (pointB.x - origin.x) * (pointC.y - origin.y) - (pointC.x - origin.x) * (pointB.y - origin.y));
a.invert();
Vector3d b = new Vector3d(point).sub(origin);
b.mul(a);

    return (0 <= b.x && b.x <= 1 && 0 <= b.y && b.y <= 1);
}

proper hitboxes for block display entities

aka they actually match rotation and scale and translation

[rotund egret]

Super cool

[brazen ether]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzT9I1d-LlQ&ab_channel=SheafificationofG

this man optimized multiplication with fourier transforms

insanity

[slate elk]

Guys we had MySQL server

But we also have local database sql

What it’s called ?

SQLite

Hell yeah

[rotund egret]

H2 is similar

[long dagger]

If you want really simple do like express in js

[ocean quartz]

Ktor/Spring serve html, dockerize, use docker-compose, boom, easy to work with, easy to deploy :)

[distant sun]

I think that's a bit too simple @ocean quartz

[ocean quartz]

Wdym?

[distant sun]

Aren't you joking lol?

[ocean quartz]

Not really, it works pretty well and it's quite simple

[static zealot]

I agree with matt

There's no reason to overcomplicate things, especially if you're not really that used with front-end technlogoies.

[distant sun]

I will give express a try, thanks fellas ❤️

[cinder flare]

i mean the helpchat toolbox is in Next.js and hosted for free on Cloudflare iirc

probably better than something like Express, since you're going to want clientside stuff instead of backend stuff

i would honestly recommend looking at the helpchat toolbox code, it does basically what you're saying pretty easily with just typescript types

[distant sun]

Thanks Star

[brazen ether]

argh

hard stuff is hard

[rotund egret]

Tru

[wind patio]

@wintry plinth @cinder flare hey laravel masters, I have a quick question
is it possible to see and access the properties of eloquent model? or do I have to explicitly define them somewhere?

[wintry plinth]

Install either Laravel-ide-helper (it’s a CLI thing) or get “Laravel Data” (it’s a plugin, I use this but it’s paid)

Then it’ll show them :)

[wind patio]

sad stuf

thank god for ide helper

[distant sun]

From #placeholder-api https://www.decompiler.com/jar/535dd78cb0d0434499492081d2fea073/eventscore (9).jar/org/crayne/eventscore/events/GameEventListener.java - jetbrains annotations now adds runtime checks?

[wind patio]

BAD GATEWAY!!!

[distant sun]

Your site or decompiler.com?

[wind patio]

decompiler

nvm its fixed

im not disabling my adblocker

👿

[cerulean ibex]

its been like that forever pretty much

https://imgur.com/a/NWqlAlt

why isnt it showing the image

[rotund egret]

https://imgur.com/a/NWqlAlt

[wintry plinth]

Let me know how you get on

[wind patio]

fortunately I already had ide helper installed, totally forgot that it generates that stuff for you lol

[wintry plinth]

hahah, yeah it's a good option, I believe Laravel Data uses something similar, but automated. Believe they have a free trial too, but tbh both do such a similar thing 😂

[wind patio]

also, I was using Model::query everywhere

wasn't aware about methods such as whereFieldName($value) lol

[wintry plinth]

::query is nice, its a helper laravel added for better auto completion

Model::query()->whereX()->get(); is same as Model::whereX()->get();

[wind patio]

yeah, not sure which one I like more tho

[wintry plinth]

Are you dealing with any TypeScript stuff on the frontend?

[wind patio]

yeah, trying to, at least

when I'm not lazy to create an interface

[wintry plinth]

https://charliej.com/blog/leveraging-laravel-vue-js-and-typescript-for-full-stack-type-safety check this, what i use for Analyse and other projects

it auto creates stuff like this for you

very very handy :D

[wind patio]

damn, that is pretty neat

[wintry plinth]

also means frontend completions, since using this i cant go back

[wind patio]

I assume you have to define AbcData properties yourself?

[wintry plinth]

the typescript items?

[wintry plinth]

oh ye, ones that you want on frontend

e.g. these are mine

? would be the nullable ones

[wind patio]

yeah time to re-do half of my codebase

lets get it

[wintry plinth]

LOL

[wind patio]

thats's weird

[wintry plinth]

Are you using computed props at all?

actually wait

I see the issue, you've only included 2 fields, but the rest aren't there, you've got to either include or label them as optional

[wind patio]

well in this case ForumTopicMessageData has all the properties, id .. etc. (all columns in the table)

        $messages = ForumTopicMesssage::query()
            ->where('topic_id', '=', $topicId)
            ->orderBy('id', 'desc')
            ->get();

        return response()->json([
            'messages' => ForumTopicMessageData::from($messages)
        ]);

this, for some reason, says I provided only two

[wintry plinth]

OH is this multiple?

like multiple messages

Use this for multiple items ForumTopicMessageData::collection($messages)

[wind patio]

yeah, probably, I assume I have to map each one?

oh, lol

ok

::collect() btw 😄

[wintry plinth]

oh you're prob on the newer version 😂

[wind patio]

or different version

yeah

[wintry plinth]

this analyse codebase has the older ver, which is ::collection, i better update that 😂

Tbh, I am completely rebuilding Analyse anyway, will prob do that on the new version

[wind patio]

something aint right

I assume I need another lib lol

[wintry plinth]

Ahh you might need spatie enum, I have mine commented out rn

[wind patio]

yeah

all good

[wintry plinth]

go to typescript-transformer.php

then comment out Spatie\TypeScriptTransformer\Transformers\SpatieEnumTransformer::class,

I use the default enum thing right now, not sure what spaties one does different

[wind patio]

yeah, I can see it generated the type

small issue, it doesn't seem to recognize it

[wintry plinth]

Your app doesn’t?

[wind patio]

yeah, probably due to being outside js dir

[wintry plinth]

Ahh yes that’s probably why, in typescript transformer you can change the path

[wind patio]

kinda weird

it says it generates in resources/js

for me it's in resources

well, I just modified tsconfig to include it

[wintry plinth]

That’s so weird, can always modify it later if needed, it would bother me enough to change it now but that’s ocd 😂

[wind patio]

can't really find where to change it lol

maybe that's cuz I already have files there 🤨

yeah, no, no idea lol

[wintry plinth]

I’ll have a look for ya after and see

[wind patio]

ah, there it is

[wintry plinth]

Ahhh 😂

[wind patio]

just had to generate the config file

[wintry plinth]

Works now?

[wind patio]

yeah, seems to be fine for now

[wintry plinth]

Woo, let me know how you get on, DM or @ if you need help. I love LaravelData, such a nice way to get completions

Are you using Vue or react with it

[wind patio]

React

one more question

for ex. I have a Topic and it has TopicMessages, for one to many you use DataCollectionOf

what should be used for one to one?

[distant sun]

Ah, so it is an ide option

[wind patio]

also, something aint right with generation lol

[wintry plinth]

Yeah I use DataCollectionOf but that’s in the older version, let me see what you use now

class AlbumData extends Data
{
    public function __construct(
        public string $title,
        #[DataCollectionOf(SongData::class)]
        public array $songs,
    ) {
    }
}

[wind patio]

managed to break something, my page doesnt even load now lmao

there aren't that much data for it to hang like that

[wintry plinth]

Oh 😂😂

[wind patio]

well I probably made circular reference or smt

[wintry plinth]

Yeah I reckon so, make sure you don’t reference itself

[wind patio]

oof

[wintry plinth]

https://spatie.be/docs/laravel-data/v4/advanced-usage/working-with-dates

[wind patio]

this is very confusing lol, I have no idea why it's throwing an error

nvm I just changed from Carbon to string

[wintry plinth]

haha i did that for now, but i think you'll be fine if you specify the format

[wind patio]

this whole stack is pretty nice

though I'm not sure if I'm doing most things right

also just remembered how I managed to delete our entire production database (hobby project, not work) by running tests, because tests were using production connection by default and re-created the whole database from scratch

[wintry plinth]

feel free to ask

[wintry plinth]

hehe

[wind patio]

for ex.

this is the way I access data passed from backend

(usePage().props)

and for a lot of other stuff I just axios to fetch, say, logs from the backend

[wintry plinth]

If you pass data from PHP to a React component, e.g.

public function show(User $user) {
  return inertia('Users/Show', compact('user'));
}

In React you'd do something like..

export default function ShowUser({ user }: {
  user: App.Data.UserData
}) {
  // Now do w/e with it
}

[wind patio]

is it, technically, the same as usePage().props?

[wintry plinth]

If you setup your usePage() with TS, you won't need to do that props as Blah[]

And kinda

Also set usePage() to a var, otherwise you'll get memory leaks

let page = usePage()

[wind patio]

would this be an issue? (as any (ts expert))

I don't store usePage() as a variable anywhere

[wintry plinth]

Yeah anywhere you use usePage, I'd recommend setting it as a variable

Inertia has some weird thing and you can get memory leaks

https://x.com/alexjgarrett/status/1765666398137671684

Alex Garrett-Smith (@alexjgarrett) on X

⚠️ Inertia developers!

I completely ignored the documentation on usePage and had been using it inside computed properties.

I also invoked it multiple times where needed rather than setting it once and reading from it.

This causes a memory leak (see quoted post).

Twitter · Mar 7, 2024, 9:10 AM

[wind patio]

at least not a lot of refactoring

[wintry plinth]

oo 😂

[wind patio]

god bless backups 🙏

[wintry plinth]

You should only be running tests in a CI or locally or w/e, but you can specify a different database

[cinder flare]

yeah you shouldn't usePage much

inertia was designed for native props in the framework

[wintry plinth]

Yeah pass as many through the component.

[cinder flare]

also if you're getting into the inertia stuff a ton, i'd recommend checking out all the Momentum libraries

they really do enhance it dramatically

https://github.com/lepikhinb/momentum-lock

if you scroll down to the bottom of the README it has all the other ones too

but lock is great for permissions stuff

[surreal garnet]

Whatcha workin on?

[wind patio]

staff "control panel" for our server

[surreal garnet]

Oh Coolio

[wind patio]

basically a centralized location for all sorts of server logs, staff applications, staff activity, staff/player information

[surreal garnet]

Fair enough

[wintry plinth]

That’s so cool

[pastel imp]

Eyo nice, working on something similar

[lavish notch]

Does anyone know if https://oss.sonatype.org/ died? I'm having issues accessing it and am not sure if my PC/Internet is the issue.

Oh, Major outage apparently.

[crude cloud]

dang 💀

[oblique heath]

rip

this is why we selfhost (ignore the 12 hours of downtime when i forgor to turn server on after power outage)

[cerulean ibex]

idk if u figured it out but there was a major outage

[rotund egret]

hmmm

[lavish notch]

Yeah lol.

[wind patio]

ARRGHH

👿 💢

can't build my plugin

[distant sun]

Rip

[half harness]

offline mode :))

[long dagger]

Anyone have experiance with accelerometers and displacement calculations? I cant seem to get my accelerometer to provide accurate enough data to estimate relative displacement

[frozen compass]

yo @candid bough can you accept my friend request?

[candid bough]

for?

[frozen compass]

to ask about the plugin config cause I'm having issues with the shaping and all that

[candid bough]

th shaped recipes dont work yet

the*

shapeless*

[frozen compass]

I'm trying to make shaped recipes

and I can't send a pic of what I have in this chat

@candid bough

[forest pecan]

what the heck
private AnnotationParser<CommandSender> getAnnotationParser(@UnderInitialization AnnotationParserHandler this)

this is valid java syntax?? i never have seen this formatbefore anywhere lmao

[potent nest]

since java 8, yes

[forest pecan]

what does it do

[potent nest]

it's just an explicit receiver parameter, the main reason is to allow annotations on it

in this case, I assume @UnderInitialization is used by some static code analysis tool to warn when reading from instance variables or something like that

[forest pecan]

Yeah

[potent nest]

inner classes can have the enclosing type like that in constructors as well

fun fact: javac allows you to write private AnnotationParser<CommandSender> getAnnotationParser(@UnderInitialization AnnotationParserHandler AnnotationParserHandler.this) although it's not spec-compliant

[forest pecan]

that's so cursed lmao

[distant sun]

[agile galleon]

How would y'all implement a multi-stage sorting thingamagig for items in an inventory? Basically I want to have multiple stages of sorting and those items that had the same properties in the previos stage will be sorted separately in the next stage. So basically if stage one is A: has permission, then you have lets say 10 items for which the player has the permission, and 10 who the player does not own. Next sorting stage would be by custom model data for example, then only the 10 items will be sorted within them and the other 10 also separately so the items the player has permission for and the items who the player does not have permission to are still split.

[crude cloud]

sounds like a state machine thingy

[distant sun]

What about multiple Comparator#thenComparing calls?

Smth I wrote on mobile to test LOL https://www.programiz.com/online-compiler/7XK4VJtU5Qf0Y

[crude cloud]

oh sorting items in an inventory lol

yeah comparator thenComparing chains then

[agile galleon]

just did one comparator

its a teeny bit cursed but eh

[crude cloud]

thenComparing is pretty good for chaining like that

[cobalt marlin]

@brazen ether with the collisions do you keep tping up if you are not flying?

as in when you are walking on it

[snow jackal]

https://short.hideoutsmp.net/EMNYyV
peak web design

You can tell I'm good at writing css

[wind patio]

it takes more skill to make it that bad, than to make it work properly💀

[brazen ether]

no

the plugin creates invisible shulker boxes of variable size to approximate any block display/shape

[snow jackal]

ok so i updated the css for proper resizing and wondered for like a couple hours why it didn't update on my browser but then I remembered I run it through cloudflare proxy and purged my cloudflare cache and it works now

[remote goblet]

im so funny

[brazen ether]

yes u are sexy

[remote goblet]

omg stop i'm gonna cry

ilysm

[distant sun]

#1257956028063027243

[primal kestrel]

Thanks

[primal kestrel]

I'm not looking for a specific request tho

Looking for someone that's willing to work on a lot of plugins

[remote goblet]

why you telling me

[primal kestrel]

Idk cause I want to hear myself talk I guess

[distant sun]

Lol

[remote goblet]

but you can use request-paid as just a Hiring Developer

[primal kestrel]

Oh I didn't mean to reply to you, I just realizes, sorry

[slate elk]

Ori u didn’t realize

[remote goblet]

what do you want

why are you speaking to me

[slate elk]

We r coding slaves

For free

Why is this chat is even open for non devs

[remote goblet]

speak for yourself please

because role request isnt a thing anymore

and a total of

2 people regularly start conversations in developer-chat

[brazen ether]

to make fun of randoms who post here

[remote goblet]

by two people i actually mean one, andre is literally the only person who starts a conversation there

[brazen ether]

nononono i've argued with zodd at least 3 times here

give us some credit

[remote goblet]

not talking about here

[slate elk]

Nah there was a thing when people who post gpt code

And ask for help

[remote goblet]

Im talking about this channel

[slate elk]

😭

[brazen ether]

ah but Developer role isnt handed out anymore

[remote goblet]

.

[slate elk]

Ori got the role

[remote goblet]

im cool

[slate elk]

🥴definitely

🥳

[brazen ether]

sucked up to the mods

[remote goblet]

yeah sure

im annoying and rude no one will listen to me if i do that

[slate elk]

Nah they should be recognition

And then u get the role

[brazen ether]

get on my level

[remote goblet]

fire

[brazen ether]

literally 1984

[remote goblet]

i trash talk kris on an atleast weekly basis surely i get some credit

[half harness]

jeeeez

lol

🥲

[remote goblet]

dkim didnt you get denied a lot

[brazen ether]

gotta be more consistent with it

[remote goblet]

real

[half harness]

only one time! 😌
(but there were 10 problems listed lol)

[brazen ether]

just write in malbolge

they can't critique it then

[remote goblet]

when they send the paste you knew you were cooked 😭

they would deny it just for being annoying

[half harness]

I mean for me I was a 👶 developer

that was 3 and a half years ago...

[brazen ether]

still a baby developer

[half harness]

👶

[brazen ether]

get those decades on

[remote goblet]

me too

[brazen ether]

kinda crazy like

a good few people here will prolly live 100 years

say u started writing code at 20

most prolly started younger

thas like 40 years until retirement

of developer experience

[remote goblet]

i started it at 15

or was it 16

i dont remember anymore

[brazen ether]

i'm only 16, started a few years ago :>

i was in a middle school minecraft server dev class

[remote goblet]

congrats

[brazen ether]

and everyone was using skript

[remote goblet]

it only gets worse from here

[brazen ether]

i decided to just learn java

[brazen ether]

hopefully not

[half harness]

if scratch.mit.edu counts with like 80% of the projects copied from tutorials then I started at 8
but I had like no idea what I was doing back then

[brazen ether]

same

[remote goblet]

i learnt discordjs at 14 then java at 15

im now 20

[half harness]

ur middle school has a minecraft server dev class??

[brazen ether]

i think i did some physics simulation stuff in scratch back then

[brazen ether]

ya

[half harness]

ooo

[half harness]

wait thats so cool

[brazen ether]

most people hated it but it introduced me to java

which is bittersweet

[remote goblet]

thats NOT a good thing

[brazen ether]

i was friends with the teacher from a robotics class he did the year before

[half harness]

👴

[remote goblet]

literally

[brazen ether]

oldhead

[half harness]

robotics class too

your schools cool

[slate elk]

I never even took a look at skript

[brazen ether]

it was

[slate elk]

It’s like python for Minecraft 🤮🫠🤢

[brazen ether]

i saw the teacher teaching it and i realized like....... nah

my first project was like

[slate elk]

Teacher

[brazen ether]

for the class we made a server

[slate elk]

Teaching skript ?

[brazen ether]

yes

[slate elk]

Where the fuck did u study

[brazen ether]

he was trying his best

[remote goblet]

Skript isnt that bad

[brazen ether]

california

[remote goblet]

people just use it for stuff they shouldn't

[slate elk]

Nah Americans are diff

[half harness]

the keyword "minecraft" is literally blocked on our school laptops and you guys play minecraft in school?

[brazen ether]

i made a battle royale thing with a custom map and like class abilities

[brazen ether]

yes our yearlong project was literally making a minecraft server

[half harness]

👀

[remote goblet]

does paper mc on scratch count

[brazen ether]

i was the only programmer on my team and my other friends built the map

shi was fun ngl

[half harness]

it's not in the url bar so it's allowed

🙃

[remote goblet]

real

[half harness]

I remember playing that tho

pretty impressive

[brazen ether]

now the only computer science classes i can "take" is like APCSA

[half harness]

have you taken it?

[brazen ether]

i will in senior year just to have a free period

[half harness]

it should be an ez 5
sorting algos were pretty much the only thing that I had to actually study (but they're easy to learn)

[brazen ether]

it is incredibly easy

im taking 5 ap's in senior year tho cause i want to

but it's gonna suck

[half harness]

5 wow

ap csa should help in balancing tho

[brazen ether]

yea

ap physics C and ap stats are free as well

[half harness]

have you taken csp?

physics c is free?!

[brazen ether]

no

[brazen ether]

anything math related for me is free

[half harness]

I'm taking mech next year but generally e&m I heard was one of the most difficult APs

[brazen ether]

people just aint using their noggin

[half harness]

🥲

[brazen ether]

u gotta use the calc

slang for calculator btw

[rotund egret]

Our advanced physics class sucked

[half harness]

wdym?

[brazen ether]

how so

[rotund egret]

Teacher didn't do shit half the time

[half harness]

oh-

[rotund egret]

We just goofed off, he didn't try and teach most the time

It was fun, but not what I wanted

[brazen ether]

ya, taking ap's in senior year like i am is a little questionable considering college aps are alreay over by the 2nd semester, but i think it'll be interesting to learn

hopefully senioritis doesnt hit too hard

[half harness]

I took ap physics 1 and our scores depended so much on how much we learned ourselves and how dedicated we were
I got a 5 but I know someone who got a 1 because he didn't care and the teacher gives like 100000 points of extra credit

[brazen ether]

damn

[half harness]

107% in the class 😎

[brazen ether]

i'm taking calc bc this year and i'm gonna sleep through the entire period

[brazen ether]

aboutta ai unblur ur email

[half harness]

noooooooo!!!

[brazen ether]

get doxxed

[half harness]

ig if it's aps you're interested or somewhat interested in it should be fine

[brazen ether]

ya it's ap stats, ap physics c, ap gov/econ, ap spanish, apcsa

[half harness]

wait

[brazen ether]

hopefully ap spanish wont be too bad

[half harness]

isn't that like 7 aps

[brazen ether]

it's 5

ap gov/econ is 1

[half harness]

huh

AP United States Government and Politics?

[brazen ether]

yes i htink so

[brazen ether]

it's jsut labeled as this on the course thingy

[half harness]

oh

[brazen ether]

:Ohh:

bruh

[half harness]

lol

[brazen ether]

NITRO

[half harness]

rip nitro?

💀

[brazen ether]

i want nitro