dev-general

[wind patio]

.twig anyone???

[cinder flare]

twig sucks bro

it's like the same as django templates

Blade is much closer to normal PHP which lets you do like nice functions and stuff

stuff like the @class directive that lets you do like tailwind style boolean object for classes is so nice man

[wind patio]

yeah true i didnt really like twig in symfony

just wondering if anyone did

[lavish notch]

Tebex uses Twig iirc

[cinder flare]

really? that's pretty weird lol

i know chazza uses Inertia with Analyse at least iirc

[wintry plinth]

We do, kinda

Tebex itself uses Laravel+Inertia+Vue, but our templating engine (for the storefront) is twig

But personally, I much prefer to use the Headless APIs as you get full control of the storefront. Using the stack you want/like, without anything else

[lavish notch]

I've seen it a few times when installing themes.

[lavish notch]

Honestly, would be interesting to see Tebex offer some Headless service.

[wintry plinth]

We have headless APIs you can use, MCC Island’s store uses it :)

I’m not sure of any other stores but I know MCC Island does, and they use Next.js I believe

[lavish notch]

[inner ruin]

Ever tried NextJs?

[cinder flare]

I mean React is nicer than Twig lol

[distant sun]

Does anyone ( @ocean quartz ) know about a 🆓 tool similar to dbdiagram.io that lets you download some file that you can later on import back and continue working on the diagram? We got like 40 tables and is a pain to save the "configuration" of dbdiagram on a txt file or something and rearrange the tables every time I have to make an edit.

[wind patio]

what do you need 40 tables for

[potent nest]

it's for a restaurant

[distant sun]

It is for work, a banking app

[wind patio]

so uh, work doesnt provide any tools, such as magic draw?

[distant sun]

The project is quote old and some relationships are not so straightforward, hence why I want to make a diagram.
Idk what "magic draw" is but I need something like dbdiagram which is made for DBs and not diagrams in general because I don't want to draw the tables or the arrows that represents FKs

[wind patio]

mysql workbench?

[distant sun]

We use Microsoft SQL

[wind patio]

no I mean you can do that in mysql workbench

[distant sun]

Interesting

[wind patio]

https://www.mysql.com/products/workbench/design/

[distant sun]

Do you need to be connected to a db or you can create the tables through this functionality?

[wind patio]

Im not sure, havent used it, just heard about it

[distant sun]

Right, I will check it out, thanks!

[wind patio]

there's also visual-paradigm

[pastel imp]

ngl, would also be good to have further tutorials/guides (preferably in video format) on using the headless api and checkout api... Was looking at it the other day, and having some type of guidance besides the docs, would be nice.

Like some actual irl examples on how to properly use it

[wintry plinth]

Really cool idea. I’ll mention that internally as we do have a video department

[pastel imp]

Let me know if it goes somewhere!

[lavish notch]

Something similar for making themes would be nice, last I checked it was very much just documented that "oh yeah, you can theme with X file" and not much more details.

[wintry plinth]

Personal opinion, I’d ditch the theme system and go direct to headless. It requires more work upfront, but it’s a lot more customisable, and you can deploy the site blazing fast to anything like Vercel

[lavish notch]

I mean the system already exists, just isn't very well documented.

Also a lot of server owners don't know much about hosting and rather pay the subscription to have it managed.

[wintry plinth]

Yeah I get that. But if templates existed using headless

[thorny raft]

Hi, is anyone familiar with portforwarding? I have this issue where I am required to input "Virtual Host Port" before I can proceed to add a port. This is on a D-Link DIR-X1860Z WiFi6 router. Any help please.
https://imgur.com/a/LRBpfxS

[wintry plinth]

I spent a few thousand commissioning an artist for a website half a year ago, I wanted to turn that into a site with the headless APIs, but had no time lately

Someday..

[lavish notch]

Headless would require the server owner to manage the front-end.

Hosting wise.

[queen aspen]

Virtual Host Port is the wildcart port for your ports

https://ftp.dlink.de/dir/dir-x1860/documentation/DIR-X1860_man_reva_Manual_en.pdf
Page 70

Feel free to tell me more about what you're up to

[rugged spear]

Hello

I need help rq

[22:56:39] [Server thread/INFO]: sdxq issued server command: /kit create test
[22:56:39] [Server thread/INFO]: ItemStack{STONE_SWORD x 1, UNSPECIFIC_META:{meta-type=UNSPECIFIC, enchants={DAMAGE_ALL=1}}}```

so I created this command which just do this:

```java
List<ItemStack> items = new ArrayList<>();
        for (int i = 0; i < inventory.getSize(); i++) {
            ItemStack item = inventory.getItem(i);
            if (item != null) {
                items.add(item);
                System.out.println(item);
            }
        }

        String name = ChatColor.stripColor(kitName.toLowerCase());

        kitManager.addKit(new KitData(items, name, new ItemStack(Material.STONE)));```

[22:56:41] [Server thread/INFO]: sdxq issued server command: /kit test
[22:56:41] [Server thread/INFO]: test [ItemStack{STONE_SWORD x 1}, ItemStack{BIRCH_STAIRS x 8}] ItemStack{STONE x 1}```

but when I add the items to the player it doesn't have enchant

private void claimKit(String kitName, Player player) {
        KitData kit = kitManager.getKitByName(kitName);
        for (ItemStack item : kit.items()) {
            player.getInventory().addItem(item);
        }
    }```

pretty simple thing, but enchants doesn't work

Server: 1.20.4, Java: 17, Client: 1.20.4

this is just a bug or I'm dumb?

[rugged spear]

It is a bug!!!!

Uh

now it's worst with downgrade

oh god

Okay now when I do the claim in Server: 1.20.1 seems to work but when I load it from a filed it's doesnt

[sturdy zinc]

during a mvn package I get many errors cannot access <path to java file

[half harness]

can you paste the error and/or log and pom.xml?

[sturdy zinc]

I think this is what your looking for https://paste.helpch.at/felefanamo.xml

[half harness]

did you try running mvn clean package?
Also, is IntelliJ giving errors in the code as well?

or just compilation errors

[sturdy zinc]

mvn clean is that the same

no errors in code

[half harness]

you can run that and then mvn package afterwards

mvn clean package just runs both

clean clears some cache stuff

stuff in your maven local seems corrupted (?) in line 62 - 67 (idk about others, but I know LastLoginAPI is on a public maven repo... so you should probably be using that instead of maven local too)
Don't know why the other errors are happening; hoping clean would fix it

and also please send your pom.xml

[sturdy zinc]

did the mvn clean package and same errors

[half harness]

hm ok

[sturdy zinc]

I couldn't find or get it to work on public maven

[half harness]

try deleting the jars in 62-67 and regenerating them

not sure why those are messed up

[half harness]

what errors?

[sturdy zinc]

it works now

still getting warning for lastloginapi

[crude cloud]

one of your repos declared is http instead of https

http://repo.mcmmo.org/ it seems

[half harness]

warning? what/which warning?

[sturdy zinc]

all the warnings are setup for public mavens

[sturdy zinc]

I was able to fix all the maven warnings by changing the version on a few of them and then back now no warnings on maven, still got the 100 zip END header not found errors which is stopping me from compiling

[solid loom]

    @EventHandler
    public void onEntityDamage(EntityDamageByEntityEvent event) {
        if (event.getEntity() instanceof Player) {
            // Check if the killer is an Ender Crystal
            if (event.getDamager() instanceof EnderCrystal) {
                EnderCrystal enderCrystal = (EnderCrystal) event.getDamager();

                // Retrieve the player who placed the Ender Crystal
                if (enderCrystal.getCustomName() != null) {
                    Player crystalPlacer = getServer().getPlayer(enderCrystal.getCustomName());
                    if (crystalPlacer != null) {
                        event.setDamage(0); // Prevent damage from the Ender Crystal
                        event.setCancelled(true);
                        event.getEntity().setLastDamageCause(event); // Register the damage cause

                        // Set the killer to the player who placed the Ender Crystal
                        ((Player) event.getEntity()).getKiller(); // This will be used in onPlayerDeath

                        return;
                    }
                }
            }
        }
    }```how do i make it track if the damage reason is respawnanchor

[simple kestrel]

A respawn anchor is a block

so it probably wouldn't trigger that event. Try the https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/entity/EntityDamageByBlockEvent.html

[solid loom]

@EventHandler
    public void onEntityDamagebyBlock(EntityDamageByBlockEvent event) {
        if (event.getEntity() instanceof Player) {
            // Check if the killer is an Ender Crystal
            if (event.getDamager() instanceof RespawnAnchor) {
                RespawnAnchor respawnAnchor = (RespawnAnchor) event.getDamager();

                // Retrieve the player who placed the Ender Crystal
                if (respawnAnchor.getCharges() != 4) {
                    Player crystalPlacer = getServer().getPlayer(respawnAnchor.getCustomName());
                    if (crystalPlacer != null) {
                        event.setDamage(0); // Prevent damage from the Ender Crystal
                        event.setCancelled(true);
                        event.getEntity().setLastDamageCause(event); // Register the damage cause

                        // Set the killer to the player who placed the Ender Crystal
                        ((Player) event.getEntity()).getKiller(); // This will be used in onPlayerDeath

                        return;
                    }
                }
            }
        }
    }```

not working

[simple kestrel]

The RespawnAnchor class is the block data

So you should check the block type and then check if the blockdata is instanceof RespawnAnchor

[solid loom]

can u like code it and tell

im not sure on how to do that

[simple kestrel]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/block/Block.html#getBlockData()

[brittle leaf]

event.getDamager().getBlockData() instanceof RespawnAnchor

getDamager() returns Block, RespawnAnchor is a child of BlockData, so your original instanceof would always be false

tho i dont think the server keeps track of who tried to fill the respawnanchor and failed so the explosion will tell you it was the respawn anchor but not who tried to fill it

[wind patio]

@wintry plinth hey, uh, have you used any SSH packages that allow you to SSH into a remote and execute commands in laravel?

tried spatie/ssh, doesn't allow password authentication

[wintry plinth]

I’ve actually never tried but good call 😮 why not setup an SSH key?

[wind patio]

eh, well, I don't wanna set-up it on multiple machines

[wintry plinth]

I’ll have a look for you tho :o

[wind patio]

I've seen SSH facade

but it's gone

I'm on v10.16.0 laravel

[wintry plinth]

V11 Laravel tomorrow!!

Which means I can finally start on something

[cinder flare]

good, you should not be using password auth ever

It's like super easy to just make like an ed25519 pub/priv keypair and set it up

and like 100000x more secure

[wind patio]

ughh, yeah but

am I gonna

[cinder flare]

and it's arguably easier to set it up on multiple machines, you just edit the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file and bam

can just copy paste the whole thing lol

[wintry plinth]

😂

[wind patio]

well I'm on windows

and I want to test some stuff locally

[agile galleon]

Then don't be on windows

[inner umbra]

Virtual Machine 😉

[wind patio]

I'm aware there are options

but those options are not what I'm looking for

[agile galleon]

WSL

[wintry plinth]

Laravel 11 today

[pastel imp]

oh no

we doomed

[wintry plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/something-special-is-gonna-go-down-the-rock-dwayne-johnson-seven-bucks-a-big-event-gif-22161715

[wintry plinth]

https://blog.laravel.com/laravel-11-now-available?ref=x

@pastel imp @wind patio @cinder flare

[wind patio]

how can a thing be so good

I wish we could use this at work

instead we use springboot

[wintry plinth]

Oof 😳 reverb is so cool, a self-managed pusher basically. One less expense to worry about

[pastel imp]

dies

[wintry plinth]

Reverb is gonna be effort to setup I've just looked at docs

https://laravel.com/docs/11.x/reverb

[pastel imp]

ngl the update looks pog

svelte does have some of those things or similar

but some it doesn't

[wind patio]

i mean spring is nice but sometimes things get pretty complicated

one of our senior devs is trying to implement a custom api rate-limitter/manager, where you can enable/disable specific endpoints or groups for API user "groups" and add rate limits per N amount of time and its a big struggle

we use several spring boot instances over different servers and zuul for our external gateway

and it seems like it would be a breeze using laravel lol

[agile galleon]

Hehe breeze ||https://github.com/laravel/breeze||

[wind patio]

yeah I thought I knows smt from laravel called breeze lol

[inner umbra]

Huh... java public class Custom { public static Custom instance = new Custom(); private Custom() { System.out.println("Custom constructor called."); } } Any reason the output is only shown the first time Custom.instance is used rather then on runtime?

[wind patio]

you mean only when you access the field?

[distant sun]

Static blocks run the first time the class is referenced

[inner umbra]

👍

[wind patio]

when first accessed or class loaded

[distant sun]

Probably obvious, but when using String Builders in kotlin, should I do append("string").append(variable) or is append("string$variable") just as good? I would say the first one is more correct

[prisma wave]

i would doubt it makes a huge difference tbh

bear in mind of course that nowadays StringBuilders are only really necessary if you're appending in a loop

[distant sun]

Yeah, but I like it more than string =+ other string xD

[pastel imp]

I wonder if training an ai model that is multilingual with a mixed language dataset is beneficial or not

since in theory, just an english dataset would work in theory....

[oblique heath]

might add a lot of complexity but if you are short on data it could be worth considering

[pastel imp]

I mean, define "short on data"

[oblique heath]

if the amount of data you have using any one language is not enough to get the results you want

[pastel imp]

I currently have a dataset of around 250k messages in english and the same dataset translated into other 7 languages.

[oblique heath]

how similar are the messages

[pastel imp]

wdym

[oblique heath]

like what is the common theme of the messages

what are they about/related to

[pastel imp]

TBH, I am not fully sure, it's not my dataset. I just know that they are comments from social media

[oblique heath]

ok

i mean idk i'd say start with just english

[pastel imp]

so I would assume quite a wide range of themes

[oblique heath]

mixing multiple languages means you two subsets of tokens that won't ever mix

lot of wasted potential

[pastel imp]

wait what? got confused with the sentence lol

brain not braining

[oblique heath]

ok imagine a simple model that takes in text as input

[pastel imp]

hmhm

[oblique heath]

you are going to chop up the text into tokens of words

(or letters but that will lead to the same problems eventually i think)

[oblique heath]

if you use more than one language, suddenly you have a pool of english word tokens and a pool of say french word tokens

however you probably will never encounter an english word in a french datapoint, and vice versa

and you have basically two words in different languages that mean the same thing but are different tokens

you need more neurons to handle more possible input tokens, but you still have the same amount of meaningful words, just duplicated

you can of course consider translating one language into another but we all know how terrible that can be at getting subtle and potentially very important meanings across

[pastel imp]

suppose that's where the fact that it's a multilingual model helps, since it already does the job of understanding what is written and translating it internally

[long dagger]

I just saw this on a relatively popular site, pretty scummy

read the top class name

I reload the page and the numbers are different

Its also a shopify template 😐

[oblique heath]

lol

[fleet bay]

First time using typescript, wanna kill myself already

https://tenor.com/view/when-you-had-plans-but-avele-amosheke-nje-gif-17596278013398119965

[sly sonnet]

suppress it

[fleet bay]

Yes ofc

Or use any

But its so annoying sometimes haha

[inner umbra]

Why does JSONObject.get("Object") return long from "Object": 1 Shouldn't int be priority?
And yes I can do ((Long) JSONObject.get("Object")).intValue() but just curious why its not checked already.

[potent nest]

json only has one numeric type, read the docs of the json library you use I guess

[inner umbra]

👍

[pastel imp]

Random question, in a moderation system, is having categories like "Insult", "Threat", "Toxic", etc. relevant? Or would simply Neutral and Toxic be enough?

[wind patio]

depends if you wanna generalise or not

[crude cloud]

toxicity meter

-100 to 100

but also allow to go over 100

[static zealot]

69 to 420

funny numbers

I think

[wind patio]

real

[pastel imp]

I mean, the question is not really if I want or not. It appears to have better results if a model is trained in only 2 labels than several

since examples for each label have different sizes which unbalances the dataset

[pastel imp]

if I go with only Toxic and Neutral, then yes, kinda what I am gonna do

[wind patio]

well then there's your answer

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[oblique heath]

i think toxic overlaps with the other two categories

regardless of how many categories you end up picking you probably want them to all be discrete

i think emily's suggestion is very decent but i can also see some shortcomings depending on how well the model performs as well as what you actually use this for

[oblique heath]

should normalize the dataset for this

[pastel imp]

wdym with normalize?

[oblique heath]

delete overrepresented categories' datapoints until you have an equal amount in each

nothing crazy

[pastel imp]

if I had several labels, that would decrease the dataset size by a ton, since, for instance, in one of the datasets I am testing (I am doing several types and mixes of datasets), there are 190k neutral and like 20k of "threat" and 100k of "Insult"

so making it all 20k

would decrease the size by a lot

giving it way less examples

[oblique heath]

yeah

but the amount of data isn't everything, it's still worth it to normalize

the alternative to normalizing is having your model end up preferring to label any message as neutral

[pastel imp]

Issue comes when you have labels like "identity attack" which only have 2k examples, a dataset of 10k compared to a 300k is way worse imo

[oblique heath]

not very easy to solve

[pastel imp]

I am also testing a 2 label (Neutral & Toxic) Dataset of 1.3m messages, thing is, around 87% are neutral, which is not good, but it will serve as testing.

[oblique heath]

having too much of one label makes it very hard to tell if the model is actually learning anything

[pastel imp]

Accuracy: 96.33%
Loss: 0.09
F1: 72.60%
Precision: 69.39%
Recall: 78.25%

These are some metrics of one of the models trained on a dataset with:
Neutral: 59.87%
Insult: 32.05%
Obscene: 6.92%
Toxicity: 6.59%
Threat: 6.32%
Identity Hate: 2.58%
Servere Toxicity: 0.61%

With a total of around 330k data points.

This dataset also had noise added to the messages

[oblique heath]

is the accuracy on test data with the same distribution of labels as the training data

[pastel imp]

wdym?

[oblique heath]

are the percentages of this distribution

Neutral: 59.87%
Insult: 32.05%
Obscene: 6.92%
Toxicity: 6.59%
Threat: 6.32%
Identity Hate: 2.58%
Servere Toxicity: 0.61%

also the case for your test set

[pastel imp]

not 100% but yes

the same dataset without noise had similar accuracy, loss and f1, but precision was at 81.47% and recall at 78%

Difference is that stuff like "you s2$k" wouldn't be detected

while with noise it was

[oblique heath]

if you have noise, you should be able to increase your total dataset size by several fold, especially for the minority labels i would think

[pastel imp]

wouldn't that possible cause issues with duplication?

[oblique heath]

maybe try using noise disproportionately on the less common labels to bump their percentages up and get your set closer to normal

[oblique heath]

slightly, but it's very common practice to augment datapoints to increase your total training data

especially when you have a small dataset like you do

[pastel imp]

should I do this with only Neutral and Toxic labels then? Seems like a better approach for this

and easier to balance out

[oblique heath]

wdym? do what with only neutral and toxic

train your model on only those two?

if so i think yeah that'd be fine, combine all the bad labels into one like you planned originally

you should definitely have your model use a softmax for how confident it is in each, although it's probably doing it already

seems like a convenient feature to get the exact percentage confidence for future applications

also this is a pretty obvious thing to do but are you doing all the basic things when preprocessing your data, like turning to lowercase and removing unicode etc etc

[pastel imp]

it already gives a % of confidence yeah

[pastel imp]

yes

[oblique heath]

very nice

one final though i have is if the duplicate datapoints with different noise in each (which you should do fr) is not enough or if performance still isnt where you want it, you can try feeding your model a "context" of several messages that were sent in a row

i think that's pretty important to recognize toxicity for human moderators so surely having a model be able to see that will do good things

you'll have to figure out using custom tokens to separate messages correctly though but i bet that'll do pretty well

[pastel imp]

The dataset isn't mine, but from the limited search I did inside it, it already contains some of those

will have to wait until tmr for the models to finish training with the new dataset

then we will see

kinda 7x the amount of toxic data points now

lmao

dataset has 1123353 toxic and 1167756 neutral

neutrals were untouched by noise

toxic were once the original, no noise, then 6x the same with different noise amounts

suppose that's good enough?

[oblique heath]

seems pretty good to me ngl

[pastel imp]

we will see what the models say tmr

Hell 530mb dataset

only noticed it now

xD

[foggy pond]

I tried asking in the IntelliJ discord but it seems dead

But is it normal for files on onedrive to result blank when opened from a mac, and uploaded from a pc?

[ocean quartz]

IJ has a discord?

[solid loom]

how do i fix this>?

[compact perch]

📋 Your paste: nightmarexd_

https://paste.helpch.at/ixecesunem

A member of staff has requested I move your message to a paste,
Most likely because it contains a config/error/code snippet.

[foggy pond]

yeah

[solid loom]

oh ok

my bad

[foggy pond]

I need to somehow have a common local repository so dependencies for my projects work between my mac and my windows desktop computer, but onedrive is being so slow

Is it a bad idea to have my repository folder in my onedrive, so that both my mac and windows machine can have a common place to find dependencies?

[ocean quartz]

Wdym by find dependencies? Why not just use Github? Push from one pc pull from other, let your buildtools handle dependencies

[foggy pond]

wdym with "let my buildtools handle dependencies"?

[ocean quartz]

That's why I asked you what you meant by finding dependencies, because let's say your project uses gradle, when you open the project it'll download all dependencies you need, so no matter which pc you're using all you need to do is open the project

[foggy pond]

yeah but if those dependencies are in my local maven

On one computer

I tried setting up sona nexus or something but I cannot understand for the life of me how it works

[ocean quartz]

Use reposilite

[foggy pond]

does it work for gradle projects too

Also, it says "self hosted" - does that mean one of my machines needs to be constantly on

[ocean quartz]

Yes, I mean it's a maven repository manager it'll work on either
And yes it's self hosted, get a cheap vps, it doesn't need much
But if you really need local stuff, you can also always just add jars to the repo in a lib folder or something like that, there are many ways to make your life easier than using onedrive

[foggy pond]

Can I set it up on a linux machine?

I can host it where my network is hosted on

Though idk how difficult it might be

[ocean quartz]

Yes

If you use docker it's super simple

[foggy pond]

Idk thing is that this all seems very overkill

I simply want to be able to work on my projects on two different machines, at this point it's easier to just have an USB

[ocean quartz]

Setting up your reposilite and using git to keep them in sync might be a lot of work at first but will definitely make your life much easier in the long run

[foggy pond]

I'm just scared of using an USB stick as a friend of mine lost a shit ton of data on it randomly and has to pay 700£ to get it fixed

i might be better off just rebuilding all the dependencies on both computers

way simpler though long

i got this laptop so I could do work outside of the house for university, i can't spend days trying to figure this out

[crude cloud]

just use GitHub

[foggy pond]

then just publish on my other machine locally?

[ocean quartz]

You could also use Github packages, but personally found that just hosting my own reposilite was much easier to setup and use

[foggy pond]

how come setting up a server to host reposilite on is easier than using github?

[crude cloud]

GitHub packages specifically

not GitHub in general, they serve different purposes

one is a git repo host for projects and all that sync stuff you want, the other is a maven repo for hosting dependencies

[distant sun]

https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/s/qfbVJoVshM

[orchid wyvern]

Hello there, so we are currently switching to Folia cause of multithreaded schedules and better cpu usage.
Folia runs much more stable than paper thanks to better use of the CPU cores and not going on just the first thread.
Long story short: We would love to see someone here that maybe have experience to change the source zip-file project of a few Plugins from working on Paper to working on Folia (All of them are open source, but not planned to update to support Folia nearby. So the Folia-API integration and changing the schedules.
There is a option for universal-schedula or better use MorePaperLib which will work on Bukkit and Folia as well. If someone have experience in that, can write me. You dont need to update all, just maybe to tell us how after one worked. That would be awesome. Me and the team would really appreciate that. Thanks!

That would really help us..

[distant sun]

#1213705082143514654 @orchid wyvern

[potent nest]

If those plugins are open source but the authors don’t have any current plans to add support for folia, that mostly means that it wouldn’t be an easy task…

[terse elbow]

use javascript, ts is unnecessarily typed.
It defies the design logic of javascript being a dynamically typed language.

[potent nest]

typing is not unnecessary

[cinder flare]

unneccessarily lmao

me when static type checker prevents errors

[wind patio]

lmao

[cerulean ibex]

typescript devs do too much with their types

[cinder flare]

me when devs use types for their inteded purpose?

[wintry plinth]

I’ve got to openly admit, I’ve been a JS developer for many years and always hated the thought of using typescript. It’s not until I started using it where I really saw the benefits

TS is really useful for stuff like database records, having the IDE completion. Or pulling in data from third party places, and having the completion to pull out what you need

[agile galleon]

It sometimes is a mess though

[calm sail]

i need to put an image on a menu like this
like the video on yt the name is "how to make custom gui" but for me don't work

i talk about the pl deluxemenu

[orchid wyvern]

Thats why I would pay for it, cause we need help from programmers that know how to bring it to work. You will get 20€ for a small Plugin like Marriage Master and 40€ for each more if you want to do them also. 👍🏻 We need really these plugins, cause the players love them and I want to keep it for them for the switch to Folia.

[wintry plinth]

DM me the plugins, happy to take a look

[pastel imp]

charlie taking our jobs

[wintry plinth]

😂 happy to take up jobs as and when

[pastel imp]

bruv a millionaire doing side quests

xd

[wintry plinth]

“Side quests” 😭😭 I can’t

[pastel imp]

Xd

[crude cloud]

it is, I just use speech to text and tell chatgpt what to do

therefore I don't type

[potent nest]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-are-you-serious-kid-blinking-gif-15637790

[fading imp]

Y’all are typing to code? I’ve been doing it retro style

https://tenor.com/view/morse-code-gif-14831987

[long dagger]

what

more context please

[final cliff]

anyone got any good inventory / gui libraries? @ me if you know any

[inner umbra]

I think people say "triumph-gui" alot.

[agile galleon]

+1

[pastel imp]

@oblique heath so, metrics wise, the new balanced dataset is extremely good, but in reality... it's like.. "wth", "hope you die" comes out as neutral lmao

[inner umbra]

Does yaml have a length cap on strings in a string list before it occupies the next line in the file?

[potent nest]

that would be weird

[inner umbra]

It is. One sec

[cerulean ibex]

https://www.javadoc.io/doc/org.yaml/snakeyaml/latest/org/yaml/snakeyaml/DumperOptions.html#setSplitLines(boolean)

snakeyaml 🤮

[terse elbow]

reading client source code seems much more rewarding than server side

forced to pick up opengl lwjgl to learn how to make visuals for my hacked client

its really fun experience, minecraft helped me a lot in learning programming

[surreal garnet]

Oh..?

[oblique heath]

curious

i wonder how the length of a message affects model accuracy

[terse elbow]

yeah modding client is a fun experience
you get to learn graphics, networking and all that in one

reading server source code is a mess tho
too many unnecessary features getting into the way

[surreal garnet]

Tbh, I haven’t touched that kind of stuff since like… 2017? Kinda forgot it existed still XD

Always thought about making my on utility client since all this other clients are so bloated these days, but really haven’t had the time to sit down and do it.

[terse elbow]

have to confess im working on a hacked client because of the difficulty to get it done, but currently progress stalled because of me not knowing anything about lwjgl. Wanted to get visuals and custom rendering on entities. Like overhead display on enemies.

yeah nobody develops clients these days im aware. I think most of them haved moved to fabricmc or dll injection with JNI for some reasons or just use mainstream clients

Its nice to know you were working on clients back in 2017. Client modifications were real popular back then

while me at that time were still making 10 lines bukkit plugins 😅

[pastel imp]

good question xD

[cobalt marlin]

i feel its not really worth it, it ends up being one of those things that you automate in 20 hrs so you dont have to do it manually in 5 minutes

[surreal garnet]

Yeah

[surreal garnet]

I was there in like peak times so 2015-2017/18. Was a good time but I’ve heard the community has gone down development wise like you stated.

[fading imp]

My favorite schiz back at it again, keep up your grind king 🙏🏼

[hoary fox]

@young wasp your dms are closed. Sent a frnd req

[placid rose]

@young wasp same

[terse elbow]

I’m planning on making a blink client that will revolutionise hacks in hypixel housing

Any advice that I can make it even more undetectable? Currently blinks can still be observed from a far distance because it is not fast enough, not really instantaneous (not teleport but like fast moving)

How do I make blink close to teleportation?

I think I should use linear regression on how much interval is allowed per blink packet by hypixel

Like the distance between each blink move packets and also regression on how many packets per interval or sth?

I have no idea how spigot built in antiflood and Anticheat works

[glad fiber]

lol

[terse elbow]

im thinking of constructing a model for the allowed packet and allowed distance delta for each blink packet. But it would be the best if i can find the part which stops you from doing too many blinks in the spigot source code, which is yet to be discovered.

[terse elbow]

let me know if you have any ideas. There are many professional and leading developers in the industry, and im looking for advice to do this.
It is a very fun side project.

[crude cloud]

any half assed anticheat will rubber band you back for that crap

[fading imp]

MY MAN back on the grind, mad respect king 👑

[terse elbow]

It is for hypixel housing which has no watchdog or any other anticheats other than spigot built in antiflood or anticheat

[terse elbow]

Lol haha I just thought the idea would be cool to test out

[pastel imp]

imagine using cheats xD, also I am pretty sure this is not the place to ask how to make a cheat... don't think its even allowed.

[pastel imp]

they don't even use spigot anymore lol

they have their own custom built jars

[terse elbow]

I know it’s like highly modified spigot fork but I don’t think they have modified any of the throttle mechanism

[pastel imp]

pretty sure they did

[terse elbow]

but maybe the micro instances of servers also affect how they process packets idk

Ok cool

[terse elbow]

It’s just about like technical aspect of the game
And I’m doing it for fun and learning, it will be a private build only accessible to me

I just thought it would be cool to discuss whether it is possible together

[pastel imp]

according to an hypixel dev, they have modified it so much that it can be said its a totally different software

[pastel imp]

cheats are cheats, imo

be it for fun or not, still cheats

[terse elbow]

i think I can still study the original spigot jar and run tests to make out the differences i guess idk

[terse elbow]

ok i will make sure to not make any further replies to the topic

but in case anyone is interested in general reverse engineering and stuffs we can discuss it

like spigot internals and server implementations, i am highly interested in the topics!

and just a final question is there any way i can learn netty properly? There arent many online resources for learning netty. Do i have to resort to learning thru java docs?

[crude cloud]

their starters user guide is pretty neat

[terse elbow]

ok cool thx a lot for the info!

[wintry plinth]

I've got a project which uses a series of different java versions, at the moment I've used toolchain to download the different JDKs needed. Is it possible to just use Java 21 for example, and have the project build for the lower versions needed?

If so, how would I do this? Using Gradle

[potent nest]

javac 21 can compile down to java 8 iirc

[wintry plinth]

Ahh really, for context - I'm trying to remove the foojar thing on https://github.com/heychazza/Tebex-Minecraft/tree/implement-analytics so it doesn't download the JDKs (as it felt unneccessary)

The base uses Java 1.8, while Fabric uses Java 16, I use Java 21 on my machine and ideally I'd like it to auto compile down

Just wasn't sure if downloading was needed or not

[potent nest]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16654951/what-is-the-difference-between-sourcecompatibility-and-targetcompatibility

well you still need at least one version

[wintry plinth]

Ah really, could I use 21 as my base and compile down to 1.8 and 16?

[potent nest]

yeah that should work

[wintry plinth]

It's strange because the CLI works fine to compile, but intellij builds bug out

An exception occurred applying plugin request [id: 'fabric-loom']
> Failed to apply plugin 'fabric-loom'.
   > You are using an outdated version of Java (8). Java 17 or higher is required.
     You can change the Java version in the Gradle settings dialog.

but intellij is set to java 21

[cobalt marlin]

just set up your toolchain version and compile version

you cant use newer features obviously when compliling down though

so no virtual threads on j 16 for example

otherwise it works fine

[wintry plinth]

Ah yeah, that makes sense - is it just these I need to set?

java {
    toolchain {
        languageVersion = JavaLanguageVersion.of(16)
    }
}

tasks.compileJava {
    options.release = 16
}

Or is it other valuesa

[cobalt marlin]

thats it afaik

it depends on your plugins a bit usually

[wintry plinth]

https://github.com/heychazza/Tebex-Minecraft/blob/implement-analytics/fabric/build.gradle.kts

this is the current one

[cobalt marlin]

it should just work then

[wintry plinth]

Quite annoying then, as I get an issue with net.kyori blossom, seemingly due to the java ver

[potent nest]

the options one is what's passed to the compiler, the toolchain defines which jdk gradle tries to use to compile (you should set 21 there probably)

[wintry plinth]

Ahh I see, so 21 is what I'd set globally across all modules, and then I'd set the toolchain version per project?

[potent nest]

no, you only set the release option per project

the toolchain is what you want to use globally

[wintry plinth]

So in this instance, I want the entire project to use Java 1.8, but Fabric and Velocity use Java 16, how would I do this?

Happy to sponsor some $$ for your time if you have a github sponsors or w/e

[potent nest]

well you want to compile to java 8, but you want to use a more modern java version. The release option controls to which java version the compiler will compile, the toolchain controls which jdk (version) is generally used to run tasks

[cobalt marlin]

set your toolchain to 21 and set compile version per module

as in fabric - velocity versions depend on a module that has common stuff in 8 and then are compiled to 16

[wind patio]

anyone here been set-up ELK stack for minecraft servers?

[cinder flare]

ELK stack is so heavy it's imo not really worth

been pretty happy with Prometheus + Grafana

[terse elbow]

im not in love with hypixel just like to make custom clients in semi-vanilla servers (hypixel housing has little intervention in how your client implementation is, rules still apply tho), but i guess people wont let me discuss it because its sensitive topic

[wind patio]

eh, yeah, I've installed kibana, elastic, filebeat and logstash and it is pretty heavy lol

I just want a kinda centralized log location for our servers and systems

[wind patio]

does anyone using paperweight patcher know, how can I get a patch from another fork for my own fork?
I have a specific patch from another fork that I want, is there an "easy" of applying it by just copying it or something similar?

[magic pond]

there is a serious issue with this server and its so fricking annoying bru
there is literally no other biome other than one, ive tried changing the seed and world multiple times

not sure what else to do

[oblique heath]

cursed server jar, only gives you one biome

try using a seed (for your mc version) that someone posted online

[pastel imp]

ngl, FlatLaf Mac Dark theme looks good

[terse elbow]

linear regression or non-linear regression for anticheats?

[potent nest]

yes

[fading imp]

indeed

[humble prism]

i prefer magic

[slate elk]

im very happy today

[slate elk]

why would u need non-linear?

[terse elbow]

Idk the rules are not strictly linear? For these things I have not much experience I’m just trying to make a model that represents the best player cheats

[slate elk]

u made anticheat for a game that doees linea calculations

mostly beside entities

for movement i suggest not to do those calculations

just for combat checks

player cheats dont really use those too

old ka used to lock on player and do things manually now adays the magic is in packets client sends

[remote goblet]

https://forums.papermc.io/threads/important-dev-psa-future-removal-of-cb-package-relocation.1106/

important article here

kinda

[terse elbow]

ok cool that is good to know thx a lot

[hexed island]

@echo mural Check dm

[strong canopy]

@fresh stag DMs

[fresh stag]

yep

[strong canopy]

👍

[unborn ridge]

How can I band a 8byo kid?

[oblique heath]

teach him to play the trumpet

[orchid wyvern]

Hello there, so this website said deluxemenus would work on Folia and i wanted to ask if there is really a support for Folia, cause I cant find something else of it on the internet in general or GitHub. https://github.com/BlockhostOfficial/folia-plugins?tab=readme-ov-file Here is said, that it should work but instead of download there is said Discord next to Deluxemenus. Does anyone have a link for me, so I can download the Folia-Supported one? Or does it already have support for both but need to add the folia-support: true line into plugin.yml and thats it? Please let me know and thanks!

[dawn hinge]

Hey! While I was browsering DeluxeMenus's repository on GitHub, I came cross a pull request from Pedro which aims to implement support for Folia specifically. He linked a downloadable binary too if I'm not mistaken. I don't use Folia personally but it might be worth a try: https://github.com/HelpChat/DeluxeMenus/pull/56

[mighty finch]

Does anyone know a guy named Bugura or something like that in here? He's a German fellow who helped me out a year or so back with some networking stuff

I need his help again

Unless anyone else wants to help me lol

[half harness]

Should be resolved in #minecraft btw

[orchid wyvern]

Sounds good! Im at home in a few days again and will test it then. Thanks for the respond and I will write again if i get it to work on our Folia network. Thanks so far!👍🏻

[mighty finch]

Nope, thanks though

and yeah I got my situation resolved

[elder pagoda]

Does deluxemenu have a API ?

[sour bone]

How could I make a rng placeholder return the same number if it's parsed in the same tick?

[wind patio]

well that's not exactly how it works

even if it's a same tick, the generation under-the-hood is always, well, a random number

but, if you need that, you could make a scheduler that generates a random number every tick, something like this:

    private int randomNumber = 0;
    
    private BukkitTask generatorTask;
    
    private void initRandomGenerator() {
        generatorTask = Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskTimerAsynchronously(plugin, () -> {
            randomNumber = RandomUtils.nextInt(100);
        }, 1L, 1L);
    }
    
    @Override
    public String onPlaceholderRequest(Player player, @Nonnull String id) {
        if (id.equalsIgnoreCase("random_number_tick")) {
            if (generatorTask == null) {
                initRandomGenerator();
            }

            return String.valueOf(randomNumber);
        }
    }

[sour bone]

hm I think I have a solution, Random has the seed param, so I can just use that

How could I check if the placeholder contains something like _seed: and if so, get the text after that?

[potent nest]

That will still be random when doing multiple calls

[sour bone]

Not if I use the system time for the seed

[potent nest]

If you want to create a lot of Random instances, yeah

But that’s not necessarily a good idea

[sour bone]

Would something like this be recommended then?

[wind patio]

providing a seed will not solve your issue and will likely be worse than having a scheduler

[potent nest]

Well that example isn’t thread safe, but the idea is good

[wind patio]

as SirYwell said, you really dont want to be creating a bunch of Random class instances

[potent nest]

(You can also lazily calculate the next value by storing the last tick)

[wind patio]

yeah, just wanted to give a general idea of how that could be achieved

[sour bone]

alright thanks I'll take a look into it

[sour bone]

so my placeholder is doing this

String arguments = PlaceholderAPI.setBracketPlaceholders(player, parts[1]); I've done this already though

am I missing something?

[sour bone]

Fixed

[obtuse gale]

does anybody know a good lightweight command framework that supports spigot, bungee and velocity? (not brigadier since it doesn't work on anything below 1.13.2 iirc)

i would make my own but honestly, i have no idea how

[dawn hinge]

Consider using Lamp, they support everything you mentioned and more. I personally use this framework in all of my projects: https://github.com/Revxrsal/Lamp

[obtuse gale]

The library looks good, i just don't like the fact i have to use multiple different files for each platform's translations (lamp_en.properties, lamp-bukkit_en.properties, etc)

[obtuse gale]

alright i ended up using cloud

[cinder flare]

you guys used NuVotifier before? it seems to me like it could just be a webhook instead of an entirely custom protocol

like, it even looks nearly identical to the Stripe or GitHub webhooks, even down to the JSON and the hash, just with a custom protocol instead of HTTP?

[wintry plinth]

Yup 🫣

[cinder flare]

yikes, kind of annoying

somebody should pioneer JSON webhooks lol, could setup a NuVotifier replacement with a Javalin instance like, super easy lol

[wintry plinth]

Ironic because I’ve had my eye on webhook.com domain, but guy is firm on $40k right now

[cinder flare]

not webhook.com lmaoooo, what's mcwebhook.com?

$11 apparently!

[wintry plinth]

Hahaha. And lemme see, I wanted to build a platform to kinda “intercept” wengooks

Webhooks**

[agile galleon]

Wengooks love it

[wintry plinth]

😭😭😭

The perfect typo domain

[agile galleon]

Wengooks.com probably is cheaper

Nice product name tbh

[cinder flare]

Oh like, middleman to queue them? Or like, no-code solution to do stuff based on them

[wintry plinth]

Like imagine you want to add support for a webhook, you could use this to inspect it, then auto build typescript models from it

And shit like that

With Tebex for example, I’d love to directly get the response without manually fetching it myself etf

And if your system goes down, it could save the webhook response for later

[cinder flare]

Oh, that's interesting. Not sure how much of a market there is for that, since most webhook providers I've seen have the full type information available pretty readily and stuff

Yeah the middleman to queue them for you is probably the most useful thing

[wintry plinth]

Oh do they, and yeah was a quirky idea, but $40k so I’ve been on the fence 😂

And rn I don’t have a lot of time

[cinder flare]

yea yea

idk i'm just amazed we've had a shitty custom protocol for literally webhooks for like 12 years and nobody has thought to change it

like the people running these website surely want something more standardized eh?

[wintry plinth]

No joke, you could change the game no doubt

Plus you are working with the god web stack too

[surreal garnet]

^

Shoot for it

[cinder flare]

yeah idk, just got a request from the boss man to look at Votifier

which in my mind is already pretty cringe, especially for a more low-key, whitelisted server

but like i mean i guess i gotta do it if he wants lol

[surreal garnet]

Fairs

[wintry plinth]

Plus you could use some secure way to sign them

[cinder flare]

i mean they already use either RSA pub/priv keys or known tokens to verify

and SHA to hash the body and verify it wasn't changed

If that's good enough for Stripe, it's good enough for my Minecraft votifier notifications lol

[wintry plinth]

Yes definitely, considering these voting plugins usually have handling to prevent duplicate votes.

Definitely stripe way is viable 😂

[brazen ether]

what's the best way to read incoming packets and cancel them if needed with spigot? (1.20.4). i looked at some methods online, and a couple seem to have issues with thread safety, or using external libraries such as protocol lib. is there an easy way to do this with some sort of listener? if anyone here is familiar with fabric i'm trying to get this typa functionality

@Inject(method = "onCommandExecution", at = @At("HEAD"), cancellable = true)
    private void onChat(CommandExecutionC2SPacket packet, CallbackInfo ci) {
        //code here
    }

[half harness]

there's no built-in way in the API afaik
You'd have to use an external library such as protocollib (as mentioned) or packetwrapper (doesn't require adding another plugin - I haven't used it tho) or NMS (short for net.minecraft.server - internal code) and CB (CraftBukkit - internal code)
(not familiar with fabric btw)

[brazen ether]

ah so probably just look into how craftbukkit listens to packets and implement that?

[half harness]

there's probably some article online on how to do it
If you're using Paper, then I'd highly recommend paperweight (https://github.com/PaperMC/paperweight) btw (example: https://github.com/PaperMC/paperweight-test-plugin) since it remaps the obfuscation stuff
although it might take a bit of time to setup for the first time

[inner umbra]

With the nms methods you inject a handler into the channel pipeline.

I'm not on PC so can't give exact code.
It should be Player -> CraftPlayer -> PlayerConnection -> NetworkManager -> Channel -> ChannelPipeline
I might be missing something.

[brazen ether]

i was reading another user's implementation and i realize my mappings seem to be different? i have player -> CraftPlayer -> ServerPlayer, and then serverPlayer.connection get's me a ServerGamePacketListenerImpl, which can be used to send packets and etc but i'm not sure how to get a networkmanager so that i can actually use the @Override 'n channelRead method. im currently using remapped-mojang, since using the default gets me stuff like serverPlayer.getHandle().c instead of readable methods.

[inner umbra]

Yeah sounds right. Like I said I'm not on PC so can't check myself.

[brazen ether]

yea but i cant get the network manager 😭 . if anyone knows this, info would be much appreciated

[inner umbra]

In later versions I think the packet listener implementation extends the network manager

[brazen ether]

the issue is that the field is protected; i got around this with reflection but i don't think that's the proper way

tho it looks like i am able to read packets now so... success!

[inner umbra]

Good to hear.

If you don't want to use reflection you can loop through the NetworkManager list.

CraftPlayer craft_player = (CraftPlayer) player;
EntityPlayer minecraft_player = craft_player.getHandle();    
PlayerConnection connection = minecraft_player.c;
        
CraftServer craft_server = (CraftServer) Bukkit.getServer();
MinecraftServer minecraft_server = craft_server.getServer();
ServerConnection server_connection = minecraft_server.af();

NetworkManager network_manager = server_connection.e().stream().filter(manager -> manager.m() == connection).findFirst().orElse(null);
if(network_manager == null)
    return;
        
Channel channel = network_manager.n;
ChannelPipeline pipeline = channel.pipeline();
        
pipeline.addBefore("packet_handler", "test-injection", <Handler>);

If you want to simplify your reflection usage you can check out a library I made also. https://github.com/TheCrappiest/ReflectionLibrary

CraftPlayer craft_player = (CraftPlayer) player;
EntityPlayer minecraft_player = craft_player.getHandle();
        
PlayerConnection connection = minecraft_player.c;
NetworkManager network_manager = (NetworkManager) new ReflectField(ServerCommonPacketListenerImpl.class, "c").getValue(connection);
        
Channel channel = network_manager.n;
ChannelPipeline pipeline = channel.pipeline();
        
pipeline.addBefore("packet_handler", "test-injection", <Handler>);

[brazen ether]

i'm just working on a prototype anyway. thank you for the help!

[inner umbra]

👍

[cold valley]

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[wind patio]

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[inner umbra]

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[wintry plinth]

40% on what? $10? $100? $1000?

[terse elbow]

its most likely spam bots

oh hes typing nvm i think its not

[cold valley]

The 40% discount applies to our website development and design services. For website designing services, the standard rate is $150, so with the discount, it would be $90.

[cold valley]

Nah man am real lol

[cold valley]

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[ocean quartz]

@cold valley not what #showcase is for

[agile galleon]

You accept case studies?

[cold valley]

Yup, Only 10 for this offer.

[pastel imp]

he's just a spammer

[cold valley]

Bruhh cmon

Wanna see the portfolio?

[pastel imp]

he's spamming all channels with that message

[pastel imp]

I personally do not care

[cold valley]

Its alr man

[ocean quartz]

And delete it from #showcase if you don't want to get mute there lol

[cold valley]

Oh Mb, Thanks!

[agile galleon]

Wdym??? How do you accept case studies

[cold valley]

We're accepting 10 case studies to showcase the effectiveness of our work.

[pastel imp]

what even are case studies in this case

[cold valley]

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[pastel imp]

who even is "us", your message provides 0 information. Not even a portfolio

[cold valley]

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[ocean quartz]

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[cold valley]

Thanks Man! I really appreciate your help.

[hoary heron]

thats the intention B)

wait

darkest.. thoughts

truly dark moment

💀

[pastel imp]

@rose dagger is that a mod or plugin?

[rose dagger]

plugin

[pastel imp]

wow, that's awesome, impressive

[rose dagger]

thanks 😃

[abstract osprey]

I'm currently developing a resourcepack that removes the horse / vehicle health bar when you mount them (https://imgur.com/a/6rMMxUk)
I've replaced vehicle_container.png, vehicle_full.png and vehicle_half.png with blank images, however there is a small part remaining that i've never seen before, I've searched everywhere and can't find what it is (https://imgur.com/a/QbEGeox)
Does anyone know of what the asset file is?

[native lake]

Hey all!
Does anyone know of a way to make a "list" gui for all online players that I can integrate to another guimenu (for example I want to have a menu that goes to a menu that lets them choose wether to mute/tp then that takes them to another menu to select which one to target)?? Pings are appreciated

[pastel imp]

coding it yourself or deluxemenus?

[native lake]

deluxemenus

[pastel imp]

then #general-plugins

[gray yacht]

Would it be possible to instead of the menu opening a chest, or whatever deluxemenu currently uses.

It places the items in the player inventory.

By: saving the inventory, clearing it, opening menu, close it, place the players items back.

This would make the menus look way more premium.

As if they were actually separate uis.

Or make players open ghost players inventory’s that store the menus?

The commandpanels plugin does have the ability to extend it into the players inventory.

But since I have a catalog of 50+ menus I would love to reuse their code. In maybe the big deluxemenu update. That willl put them at the top forever. Wink

[half harness]

Coding yourself or no?
If not, try posting in #general-plugins

[gray yacht]

No I can’t code myself

I was wondering if deluxemenus was considering adding it

[inner umbra]

This channel is for development talk hence why dkim said post in the other channel.
But I'm pretty sure someone asked before and was told no. You can probably search for the conversation.

[long dagger]

I don't but if I were you I would look up a public resource pack which changes the color of the hearts, so you can see what the different images are.

[abstract osprey]

oh, thankyou!
You’re a legend, will do

[slate elk]

long time

m back

not to coding

but just to chit chat

[long dagger]

ok

[terse elbow]

ok

[static zealot]

https://x.com/notch/status/1775349676679840103?s=20

notch (@notch) on X

I've seen some questions about these.
They're Pinkie demons from Doom (the 1993 one), except in voxel form.

I did not make them.

They're borrowed from the voxel doom projects and are used as placeholders until we land an artist.
https://t.co/y2szp2Jznz

Twitter · Apr 3, 2024, 2:28 AM

[brazen ether]

custom screen text input woohoooo https://youtu.be/aQHrfC5OazE

how tf u get media perms here 😭

[pallid gale]

Tier II+ have embed perms

[brazen ether]

i gotta talk and shit for that

ok there we go

[broken imp]

People talk in here?

[brazen ether]

idk

[broken imp]

i just lurk around and answer #1224207849790505030 i dont ever chat in here lol but im always helping

[pallid gale]

[slate elk]

hey where to download windows IOS

isnt it free now adays?

(for VM)

[broken imp]

right on the website - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

[slate elk]

i wish tthey had better servers damn

i remember my dedi had 10 gbps

used to download so fast

and me and my 1mb wf

[half harness]

now adays
It's always (or for a long time) has been "free", but only the trial afaik

like the thing with the "Activate Windows" box on the bottom right

[broken imp]

yeah and really all it was was that you couldnt change the wallpaper and stuff like that

[agile galleon]

Every time I install Windows on a machine I just change the key server and that works like a charm

Dunno how long but it's been working for a while

[crude cloud]

i mean, as an individual (not for commercial use), the only thing the license is useful for is for changing the desktop background, getting rid of the watermark, and if you're silly enough, getting one-to-one support from Microsoft

Besides that... the rest is basically free for use

(not legal advice (despite licenses and terms of use not being legally binding))

[agile galleon]

yuup

[inner umbra]

MSI allows you to (or atleast use to) change the wallpaper. 😉

[inner umbra]

There is no trial. It should always have features deactivated + watermark if you don't have a product key.
Unless this is new and IDK about it lol

[slate elk]

Easy to bypass

And dunno i guess Trail Like winrar

[half harness]

Oh yeah idk why I said trial lol

[pastel imp]

hell why is jda the only "well" maintained java discord library :/

[foggy grail]

there was javacord

but not sure how it is now, it was quite behind jda before though

[pastel imp]

javacord and discord4j are both kinda dead

and jda has been slow overall, for instance, premium subs from verified bots are still not supported :/

and they have been out for like 6 months

or more

Overall, I feel jda is not that well organized

and I might have to migrate to another library... maybe even outside java

which is not smt I would like to do but oh welp

[cinder flare]

everyone goes back to the discord.js lifestyle eventually 😔

[pastel imp]

😦

[foggy grail]

yeah, havent looked back once i tried it out honestly

and they usually follow discord closely on releases as well, no waiting for implementation for newer features

[pastel imp]

I honestly would love to continue using java but oh welp... thing is, I would have to relearn a bunch of stuff

but oh welp

[cinder flare]

i still hate it lol, but i use a weird PHP library so like that's not a super popular choice lol

i just love the way it organizes 😌

[foggy grail]

how is py?

[pastel imp]

the php library or discordjs?

xd

[cinder flare]

the php lol

discordjs doesn't organize shit

it's like the least opinionated thing ever i hate it

https://laracord.com/

i use this 😌

[pastel imp]

there's a PR that adds support for paid subs in jda

but like, unsure if it's maintained, and has 0 documentation

so uh 😭

[ocean quartz]

Don't forget Discord4j

Kord for Kotlin is very nice too

[pastel imp]

it's also quite dead and even further away than jda

[ocean quartz]

What's dead about it?

[pastel imp]

not up to speed with the discord api

while jda is slow, they are the nearest from all java libraries

[ocean quartz]

Do you know of any specific feature missing?
According to their readme it looks up to date

[pastel imp]

Well, the example I gave above, Premium App Subscriptions are not yet supported while being out for almost half a year

but others are for instance, user-installable apps, automod, profile background changes, and a few smaller things

[ocean quartz]

They do have automod, the rest I don't care enough to check, so I'll take your word for it

[pastel imp]

hmm okay, that was actually the one I wasn't sure about lmao

but the rest I am pretty sure are not present

2-3 of them are open PRs that haven't been merged yet

[toxic zinc]

Can we load command when the payer close menu, even if click in echap ?

[brazen ether]

my code works perfectly 50% of the time, the rest of the time it instantly crashes

incredible

optimizing map color matching is surprisingly hard

[static zealot]

sounds like a skill issue

[brazen ether]

you say this but i didn't realize i'd have to write a kd-tree algorithm for a block game

i don't even know if this is faster because O(logn) vs O(n) at such a low number is not even applicable but hopefully it's faster

[static zealot]

Just making sure it was clear, I was being sarcastic.

[brazen ether]

yes ik 🤣

simplified kd (only r&g) tree of all 244 minecraft map colors

[brazen ether]

eyyy it paid off. 10x faster color matching than a simple for loop

[frosty junco]

could not connect to a default or fallback server. incorrectly configured address/port/firewall

how to fix

[pastel imp]

#general-plugins

[frosty junco]

but help plz

[broken imp]

also need way more information than that...

[pastel imp]

but use the right channel

[frosty junco]

ok

[pastel imp]

and stop spamming in every channel

[broken imp]

we have no idea about your server setup. what plugins your using, what host your using, what your connecting from, if youve routed through cloudflare, etc etc. you need way more info

[frosty junco]

:/

[formal wyvern]

guys what is the best way to get xp as an player on earthsmp types of servers where there is no end world and building xp farms is hard

[brazen ether]

wrong chat for this

[oblique heath]

touching grass

[broken imp]

You should prob ask in the specific servers discord that your playing on..

[lime fable]

anyone knows a way to fix the SHOW_ITEM hover event for legacy versions? https://prnt.sc/B_6U-DD3yHIL

[brazen ether]

legacy versions afaik dont support the new json text format

if that's what you're referring to

[half harness]

ironically JDA just added premium app subscriptions

actually idk if that's ironic

but still

lol

just thought it was funny

[pastel imp]

LMAO

[agile galleon]

What's that

[lime fable]

so theres no way to convert to a legacy format?

[rotund egret]

Depending how you're doing it you could just display a different text depending on version (or nothing at all)

[brazen ether]

.... it's just a text format. you could obviously just write some code to adapt some of the features

just get the string from the text component

[lime fable]

hmmmm ok i will try it, tanks man

[mighty finch]

can anyone here help me out with some NGinx reverse proxy stuff

when I try and restart the service through MobaXTerm with sudo service restart nginx, it throws this error: "unable to resolve host (host name here): Name or service not known"

And I'm really confused as to why it's using the host name that it is

because as far as I know, it's not defined anywhere

nvm, I think I found the issue

[mighty finch]

Okay I found an issue but now it's not letting me connect at all

[brazen ether]

mfw I need to understand HTML to make a rendering system in Minecraft:

[broken imp]

what about html? i know a little

[rotund egret]

Html is rather simple fwiw.

[brazen ether]

I am making a rendering system and I need to create an architecture for it and idk what to model it after

[broken imp]

oh yeah that might be past my knowledge lmao

[oblique heath]

is there a reason you have to make it yourself

if it is in minecraft then could you just repurpose an existing html -> image renderer? https://github.com/bubkoo/html-to-image

[brazen ether]

I'll check this out, I'm not actually looking to convert HTML to an image, I just meant that I need to figure out an architecture and needed some sorta inspiration

[oblique heath]

wdym exactly by architecture

[brazen ether]

like the way in which to create a GUI API

if you seen my #showcase thing, that's what it's for

to design a structure which is convenient for developers to use and fits the method of rendering is a little challenging

[viral cave]

@everyone

[agile galleon]

We had this already

[surreal garnet]

It’s easy to just say a number, but how much do you worth your time and development ability?

[wind patio]

well for a simple website they can get oracle free tier vps

the fuck lol

I mean I earn quite a bit at my actual job, but nowhere near 3.3k for 50 hours

my montly wage is 3k before taxes

[surreal garnet]

What’s the worst they can say? No?

[crude cloud]

they will throw a tantrum

and publicly shame you on twitter

(x.com)

[rotund egret]

Probably true

[surreal garnet]

Fair true and based

[wind patio]

yes

java

[brazen ether]

where does bro live to survive on this

that's 1/4th of the median wage in my area 😭

[wind patio]

Lithuania

[brazen ether]

ah that makes sense

[wind patio]

as of 2024 average gross is 2100

[brazen ether]

if it was in America I'd be amazed

[wind patio]

i have only worked for two years, not even

my first job still lol

[brazen ether]

how is the developer market there?

much competition or no?

[wind patio]

uh, not sure, not so much Id imagine

I started working halfway through finishing my bachelors degree

[brazen ether]

u studied comp sci?

[pastel imp]

developer market is overall decent in europe

it's not oversaturated like america

lol

[brazen ether]

yes hopefully the situation improves by the time I become one of the competitors

[pastel imp]

in the us?

not happening any time soon lmao

at all

if I were to estimate, 8+ years

[rotund egret]

mistake is having a laugh

[brazen ether]

hopefully having a good resume and portfolio will fix this 🙏

[wind patio]

yeh

[timber oak]

Do you guys prefer composition over inheritance for data objects?

I've heard that composition is better, but I like using inheritance to store multiple objects with similarities together, in a map for example

Ohhh composition can still be achieved with polymorphism?

[cinder flare]

i mean yeah they're slightly different tools in a language like Java

like you want to be using interface-based polymorphism for stuff like map storage

but composition for a lot of other things

[timber oak]

But can't you use interface-based polymorphism with composition? Or does that ruin the purpose of composition?

[cinder flare]

I mean yeah that's what I'm saying, they're slightly different tools that can work together and serve different purposes

[timber oak]

Ah okay good, I used inheritance for everything before, and it was causing a bit of a mess lol. Had to make a gson type adapter for everything

[ashen fossil]

this may be a stupid but i'm sitting here thinking right now about nms

• the mc server is obfuscated
• mojang doesnt want deobfuscated server out there
• mojang releases mappings for obfuscated server so devs can work with it

what am i missing here bc something about that doesn't make sense to me, what's the point of obfuscating it in the first place

[static zealot]

well the method names are mapped but the code itself is still obfuscated

[onyx loom]

obfuscation in general is just pointless

[ashen fossil]

with method names it seems not that hard to bypass whatever purpose of obfuscation they had in mind

seems like just a pain in the ass for no reason

[ocean quartz]

They have to obfuscate for legal reasons

[flint crow]

okay question for the smart people here. I am trying to make a papi placeholder that returns true if the block that the player clicked has any water around it but i cant use the isWaterlogged since not every block includes that data and idk how else i could possibly do it. So if you have any ideas let me know

[wintry plinth]

I like the idea of obfuscation, but equally I also like open sourcing thinge

[rotund egret]

obfuscation serves little actual purpose

[wintry plinth]

I’ve mainly used it for software like Spoof (where at the time, nobody else built anything like it), and I didn’t want people skidding the code

But if I’m not building anything like that, I prefer to open source as much as possible

[rotund egret]

So little actual purpose then 😉

[potent nest]

mojang doesnt want deobfuscated server out there
they just don't want deobfuscated source code laying around everywhere. It's more of a legal thing

[pastel imp]

although why isn't there a direct java api made by them?

[half harness]

there's already spigot/fabric/sponge so it's probably just unnecessary/not worth for Mojang to spend resources on developing one

why is Minecraft still obfuscated though 🤔

[pastel imp]

copy cats?

[lost river]

nope, they release deobf mappings

[lost river]

Legal? Can you be specific? How does obfuscation help with legal things?

[split parcel]

should i use nbt or pdc for storing data on items

[cerulean ibex]

pretty much depends how hot the code path doing the nbt/pdc manip is

if its a bottleneck then nbt because its more performant but otherwise pdc cuz its a more stable api and (probably) easier to use

[honest cradle]

After a while of making my own servers I started with making paper plugins
Does anyone know some free coursers our youtube tutorials that are more recent where i can up my knowledge?

[brazen ether]

ngl might be fun to join a server dev team over the summer

[honest cradle]

I have my own server

[brazen ether]

lmfao is man's recruiting 😭?

[half harness]

anyone know how maven central knows if a dependency is supposed to be runtimeOnly or implementation? ex https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/androidx.compose.foundation/foundation/1.6.5 is runtimeOnly, while https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/com.google.code.gson/gson is implementation

is it just guessing? 🤔

no idea how accurate it is

ex it marks log4j-core as implementation instead of runtimeOnly

[elder berry]

Is there a way to show custom textures in 1.8.8 on a server side texturepack from items with specific meta data?

[potent nest]

mvnrepository isn’t maven central. I don’t know where they get this data from, but I could imagine it’s just some basic heuristic. It won’t be correct in all cases anyway. But it can probably also extract gradle-specific metadata

Did you check if it does something similar with the scope for maven?

[pallid sonnet]

Does anyone know if there is a way to allow players to mine custom blocks in Adventure mode?

[crude cloud]

https://jd.papermc.io/paper/1.20/org/bukkit/inventory/meta/ItemMeta.html#setDestroyableKeys(java.util.Collection)

put the blocks you want to be destroyable on the tool you give them

[pallid sonnet]

Awesome thank you

[remote goblet]

Pterodactyl is splitting into something called pelican (#124919575534895105 message)

[half harness]

ye that's interesting...

"I discussed these changes with <owner>, and we could not come to an agreement, so-"

"...he's the only one with merge access, and write access, etc..."

[cinder flare]

yeah that's actually pretty sweet

i mean i would've rather the main guy just step down and continue under the same name, but it's awesome to see work being done on Ptero or similar

I've been wanting to do SSO with Socialite for a while, but figured it's not worth the risk to do it myself just to save a few minutes every like few months when i need to add/remove users

[wintry plinth]

What do you mean? I’m confused

[cinder flare]

In Pterodactyl Panel

It's written in Laravel, but they haven't supported SSO or anything, just user/pass auth.

[wintry plinth]

Wait really?! That would be good tbh, o didn’t realise it uses Laravel now

That’s so cool

[cinder flare]

Yeah it's always used Laravel lol

As far as I know anyways

It's just been kinda "feature-complete" for the last few years

[wintry plinth]

Ahh shows my lack of knowledge in the hosting space

[pastel imp]

wut?

[pastel imp]

uhm could I get some help with github? I recently transfered a repo from my own acc to an org, how do I update the intellij project so that I can make commits to the right repo?

[ocean quartz]

Git > Manage remotes > Change origin

[solemn rock]

I had a random thought, so if I were to make a skript or plugin that utilized armor stands to add decoration that’s visible to both bedrock and Java what would be the best way to optimize it for performance, it has to be armor stands bc it’s the only way to display models to bedrock- I’m very bad at optimizing things and wanna work on it 😭 sorry if it’s wrong channel-

[pastel imp]

where is this "Git" button?

oh ignore, it wasn't showing

[pastel imp]

had to hover

mine has this thingy xd

[ocean quartz]

and wanna work on it
You haven't even started working on it and you're already worried about performance

[pastel imp]

premature optimizations be like

[pastel imp]

Bruh....

[solemn rock]

Utilizing it for furniture and decorating, possible custom crops etc too could become clutterful of armor stands, I can make it where each model only uses 1 but it would end up being a lot still- I just wanna be extra cautious

[pastel imp]

do I have to make the org public or smt?

[ocean quartz]

Then make it work, see how it performs then worry about performance, don't waste time worrying about something you might not need

[ocean quartz]

It doesn't have to be public, you just might need to authenticate it

[pastel imp]

wdym authenticate it? the org?

uh?

[wind patio]

cant you just re-clone it?

[pastel imp]

I suppose?

tf even if I want to clone it again it doesn't find the repository?

lmao

it's private in my org but I am logged in...

so a bit confused

hmm enabled the "Use Credential Helper" and it solved the issue

who knows

random thing

lol

[wind patio]

so, um

recently we got kinda "hacked" due to owner making somewhat a bit mistake

the "hacker" got an obfuscated plugin into our server

[crude cloud]

xd

[wind patio]

I'm very curious what this thing actually did

and if everyone is up for a challenge

(mods dont ban me plz)

there are a shit load of files that do

  public String toString() {
    char[] arrayOfChar = new char[2];
    arrayOfChar[0] = 0x3C1 ^ (char)(char)Arrays.hashCode(arrayOfChar);
    arrayOfChar = arrayOfChar;
    arrayOfChar[1] = 0x3C1 ^ (char)(char)Arrays.hashCode(arrayOfChar);
    arrayOfChar = arrayOfChar;
    return new String(arrayOfChar);
  }

I assume generating some kind of string

[crude cloud]

[wind patio]

and I'd like to know what is the actual output

couldn't find a way to deobfuscate

[crude cloud]

I mean you can just run that, it's creating a string

[wind patio]

I assume it's a reverse-shell of some sorts

very cool

[wind patio]

yeah I guess, got a VM ready for it lol

better safe than sorry

[crude cloud]

sure

i mean running the whole thing isn't really gonna show you anything useful I presume

[wind patio]

true, I'll just do some debugging, see what I get

[surreal garnet]

@wind patio check to see if there’s any HTTP(S) connections

[pastel imp]

^^

[half harness]

0oooh
this looks fun

[pastel imp]

might just be a force op too, idk

many options

[wintry plinth]

Bro I ran this and now my anti-cheat is obfuscated.. nvm, it always was

[pastel imp]

imagine

[wind patio]

yeah wasn't just a force op

[wind patio]

we salvaged what we have and did a complete reinstall of the OS lol

[pastel imp]

what was it?

[wind patio]

well, he gained access to all our files

ran a few commands

such as zipping the entire server folder (to later download/upload it somewhere)

mysql dumps

so that's why I guess it's a reverse-shell

[pastel imp]

that can be done by just zipping the folders and uploading it online

plugin also has access to other plugin folders, which their config may contain the creds for mysql

[surreal garnet]

^

[wind patio]

and funnily enough, deleted all the directories containing "logs"

and .bash_history

etc

[pastel imp]

interesting...

that's why I love cloud logs xD

yeah unsure if a plugin can delete stuff like .bash_history

[wind patio]

and created a system user account too lol

AND in mysql called "mariadb", I know for a fact we never had one

and well a giveaway is the password was "changed" (as per column name) at close time we were "hacked"

so yeah, fun story for tonight

back on password changing duty

[rotund egret]

Mariadb my love

[wind patio]

it was downloaded from here

[pastel imp]

how tf did you let that plugin in without checking xD?

[wind patio]

well, I'm not gonna go into details, but it wasnt manually downloaded from here and put into the plugin folder

[remote goblet]

did the owner just

upload that jar on their server...

was it a dm from someone that was like "can you try my plugin?" with a super suspicious jar and they thought fuck it and put it on prod

[pastel imp]

lmao

[terse elbow]

there honestly should be better deobfuscator for java tools

like demangler and all that to take care of all these nonsense

and make them much more readable

[rotund egret]

Skill issue

[terse elbow]

im talking about from the decompiler technology we have for java

we have very limited tools and flexibility for java bytecode

even the best in the market recaf is very limited in capabilities too

[terse elbow]

it is not hard to understand, just annoying

[rotund egret]

Skill issue

Probably

[terse elbow]

nah

I have read way more obfuscated code

just from experience this will not be productive if the obfuscated code size is huge, and after you work it out if it got a new version update then its all wrong again

we need automated tools to analyze them

[rotund egret]

Not me, I read it by hand

Print it out even

[terse elbow]

ok

actually no, I am blind i cant read

I read by printing it out in Braille

[wind patio]

it was on a test server lol

[humble prism]

thats not good

uh, just as a quick check, you didnt have tebex etc connected on that server right?

[wind patio]

yeah, no

[humble prism]

good

because tebex api key gives them access to customer emails etc

[eager fern]

Feel free to dm me info and I can share with the team as we would be punish such a user

[shrewd walrus]

any typescript knowers know what the difference between these:

[string] and string[]

[wind patio]

tuple and array of strings

[rotund egret]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43225857/typescript-string-vs-string

[crude cloud]

typescript-string-vs-string

[cinder flare]

yeah where's my url encoded square brackets

[rotund egret]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43225857/typescript-[string]-vs-string

[shrewd walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

string vs string

ah rip no embed

[crude cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/no-image-perms-image-perms-at-level-25-image-perms-imageperms-level-25-gif-1576745293316391812

[shrewd walrus]

i'll remember this. ill return when im lvl 25.

[crude cloud]

you get image perms at tier 2 / level 10

[shrewd walrus]

where do u see your level? i only see a range on my role

[crude cloud]

uh

some barry command

</mystats:1154314768811823151>

[shrewd walrus]

well i cant use the #bot-commands channel. i can type it in, but i cant view any messages

[rotund egret]

What the fuck

[shrewd walrus]

the gating mechanics are too strong in helpchat

[rotund egret]

Wait until you find out about #cubes-pings

[crude cloud]

lmao what

sure

[shrewd walrus]

"No Access"

[crude cloud]

</profile:1154314768979599452> maybe?

[shrewd walrus]

there is a /level command

but i cant view the channel