dev-general

[agile galleon]

whys the code of the people that contributed a mess?

[wind patio]

because there are N people who did

and everyone shits however they want

lol

[static zealot]

Yes except that there's review processes.

At least for paper, its pretty good

In my limited experience

Spigot is a mess in general

[wind patio]

I suppose so

[agile galleon]

Yeah Spigot ehh but Paper I've seen pretty well

[pastel imp]

Paper hopefully will rewrite some stuff after hard fork

[wind patio]

rewrite minecraft from scratch when

[inner umbra]

Alot of people do xD Just never complete it.
One guy is open sourcing his version.

[wintry plinth]

Haha are these all yours? I don’t mind the ping btw, I nearly scrolled past as I didn’t see it 😂

[wind patio]

the marked ones, other ones are from purpur

looking to optimize the server further, since upgrading to 7950x3d didnt do much lol

[wintry plinth]

Oh wtf really 😂 it should be flying with that CPU

[wind patio]

yeah its weird, we noticed its almost as if the performance got worse

[wintry plinth]

0.0, let me know how you get on with testing and your own patches, even in DMs

I’d be intrigued how much you can boost for that chip

[wind patio]

every so often it maxes out a single core and tps starts dropping

[wind patio]

yeah well it was weird for me too

thought thats going to be at least like 20% increase in performance, because we upgraded from quite an old one

though server owner was doing janky stuff without real understanding on how stuff works and removed incubator vector jvm flag for pufferfish SIMD

[potent nest]

pufferfish simd stuff is a joke anyways

[wind patio]

yeah thats just a showcase of how im doing all of these things for better performance all to find out he changed some settings without me knowing

I remember when he kept thinking ticks-per for mob spawns lower value was better and setting it to 1

until I explained it to him like 5 times lol

[wind patio]

do you know any other performance-orientated paper forks?

I saw a few such as Leaves, Plazma

[potent nest]

I'd assume most of them don't know what they're doing

[wind patio]

one named G.. idrm the rest

[potent nest]

If an optimization isn't in paper, there typically is a reason for it

(e.g. it doesn't actually optimize anything or it isn't safe/changes vanilla behavior)

[wind patio]

I had a look at few patches, some of them do make some sense

[wind patio]

yeah that's why I'm working on my personal fork now lol

because we have some things that dont need vanilla behaviour

and better of would sacrifice that behaviour for even a small amount of performance gain

time to implement my own janky folia 😎

[pastel imp]

I never understood why paper forks don't just PR lol

[wind patio]

prob cuz they know it wont be accepted lol

[pastel imp]

why wouldn't it though?

[wind patio]

or at that point where they want their own identity such as purpur

[wind patio]

some of this and maybe some of other reasons

I suppose paper team has their own vision of whats acceptable and whats not

even if it would make sense to be included in paper

[static zealot]

Well in this case probably because they're breaking functionality.

[wind patio]

Id assume some of the patches new forks do might work and would pass as acceptable but as they keep expanding there may be more of the ones that wouldnt and people dont bother PRing

[half harness]

why didn't paper PR into spigot? 🤔

[wintry plinth]

Spigot would never accept, hence why Paper was made

[static zealot]

Has anyone here tested Nvidium? The numbers in this video are insane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX3uKHp1Y94

[wind patio]

Yeah lol downloaded Bobby and Nvidium because of this video

The boost is noticeable, yeah

Maybe not as advertised unless you have 4080

[distant sun]

Every time I try to edit a commit msg

[cinder flare]

rip my 1070

[real pagoda]

sadly not iris compatible yet (active shader support)

[half harness]

https://i.imgur.com/GcplFIL.png
Yep

it'd be super cool if it had iris support but i don't think it's coming 🥲

[lost cypress]

Hello. Is there someone who could explain what this error could be from?

[warning][gc,alloc] Tuinity Chunk System Worker #0: Retried waiting for GCLocker too often allocating 567698 words
[7:36 PM]
We are receiving this error along with it stating that our server is running ticks behind. Once it gets to a certain point its kicking us.

We use Gportal and have 12GB of Ram allotted.

[real pagoda]

any1 know what cause this ? the place that dont have pixel is now black

[inner umbra]

Usually see this when you save a multi layer image as a png.

Merge all the layers then save.

[real pagoda]

im new to asprite, where is that

[inner umbra]

If it's code... make sure you don't have a background color set to black when drawing the image.

[inner umbra]

Never heard of that unfortunately.

[real pagoda]

maybe i should do this...

[real pagoda]

sorry my bad missing the e in aseprite

i think its my code issue

i do have a renderer that draw shape base on the vertex position and order if no texture is presented

[lost cypress]

Is there a server host that you all recommend that would be better than gportal for a public server?
How many GBS would you recommend for a server with around 100 plugins?

[real pagoda]

bloom host ? idk i use it

seem quite ok

[real pagoda]

good enough for now. i will do color blend later

[real pagoda]

done it -ish

[pastel imp]

bloom, Hetzner, OVH, ReviveNode

[humble prism]

devouch revivenode

support has been known to be garbage (atleast used to be) and telling people to wipe their worlds due to oom issues caused by revive nodes old flags

[pastel imp]

I mean, I just listed a few, some friends have used it and had no issues

hence why I recommended it, but if that's true then yeah.

there's also novonode?

[sly sonnet]

Novonode is good yeah

[ivory crow]

Anyone know how servers use texture packs to have images in chat? Take play.respawn.org for example, they have colorful prefixes, images in their tab, etc. And even do "custom items" with their models, I'm curious about that too.

[manic lance]

Unicode

https://jeqo.net/guide/unicode-textures/

[onyx loom]

most people here will recommend intellij

its community edition is free

[indigo gust]

can I register a expansion without a identifier?

[wind patio]

unlikely

better of - fuck around and find out

[half harness]

no

[indigo gust]

ok thanks

so ig I will have to do my own parser

[crude cloud]

wat

[potent nest]

it's probably better not to ask

[wind patio]

yeah hes creating placeholder api from scratch

[static zealot]

String.replace

easy

I've recreated PlaceholderAPI from scratch

[wind patio]

real

everyone thinks PAPI is something big behind the curtains

its just one line of code

[wintry plinth]

😭

[inner umbra]

What is the difference between replace and replaceAll?

[half harness]

replaceAll uses regex iirc

while replace just replaces

[distant sun]

replaceAll is a misleading name, it uses a regex as dkim said

[inner umbra]

👍

[distant sun]

A proper ide will yell at you if the regex string is invalid

[indigo gust]

nah I just want to do a prefix placeholder. Nothing too crazy

[orchid wyvern]

hey devs, any idea how to fix that issue, that if you use shaderpacks, you cant use emotes / gestures via custom models on players? But without shader its working great. With shader my skin looks like this. its a known issue. I thought about working with a datapack instead of working with like ItemAdder and HMCCosmetics for player models that could be triggered thrue plugin command or as an addition. Custom new added Mobs Models are function tho, and custom models for existing mobs like sheep and so on are also function like you can see in FreshAnimation-Resourcepack. But only models for the Player would course a graphic bug with interfere using a shaderpack. Its super weird.

#1198375922483593306 message the pictures

would maybe help using vulkan instead of opengl? If its a limitation of minecraft, working with Datapacks could solve this then maybe somehow instead of using plugins? what would you guys say. I dont know what to do and playing MC without shader would be really bad for our players, of course. Any Idea would help actually how to fix that somehow

[remote goblet]

feeling terrible

[cinder flare]

damn never heard of sertraline before

but it seems very useful!

[long dagger]

Anyone have any experience with the new TextDisplays?

I am trying to set a width and having it left align, however it stays being centered.

this.entity.setBillboard(Display.Billboard.CENTER);
this.entity.setAlignment(TextDisplay.TextAlignment.LEFT);
this.entity.setLineWidth(100);

[real pagoda]

any1 know why line 92 is making a null poiter exception ?

seem like a conflict between imgui backup obtaining current context

            if (ImGui.getIO().hasConfigFlags(ImGuiConfigFlags.ViewportsEnable)) {
                final long backupWindowPtr = org.lwjgl.glfw.GLFW.glfwGetCurrentContext();
                ImGui.updatePlatformWindows();
                ImGui.renderPlatformWindowsDefault();
                GLFW.glfwMakeContextCurrent(backupWindowPtr);
            }

and the window init

[real pagoda]

oh, i forgot to call in for the init 💀

[wind patio]

real

[real pagoda]

oh boi imagine the commit of 1 line change 😭

[potent nest]

I mean that happens all the time

[wind patio]

amend

or fixup

[ocean quartz]

org.lwjgl.glfw.GLFW. lovely packages

[drifting yoke]

Hey guys, Does LuckPerms from velocity receive the events from backend servers?

I tried registering some luckperms events in my velocity plugin and no output, so I figured maybe it can't even listen to events executed in backend servers.

[wind patio]

real

[brittle leaf]

its an antidepressent

[vagrant current]

how can i make URLs clickable im minecraft

[wind patio]

should be documented id guess

[real pagoda]

hmmmm look like memory leak of some sort

the backgroud animation still going, but the mygui stuff is freaked out and it report frozen

[real pagoda]

is this mem leak ?

[potent nest]

What about using a profiler or taking a heap dump to find out if it is a memory leak?

[real pagoda]

hmm why try that later

[crude cloud]

[real pagoda]

bruh

just realize i type why instead of will

but the problem is maybe the imgui stuff is not being refresh each frame

[real pagoda]

on my old system i can poll first or last without consquence and i forgot that, and i will own up to that 1 line commit 😭

[remote goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/im-going-insane-gif-23169944

[real pagoda]

seem like a bit too much memory usage for a test scene

[wind patio]

who needs a profiler when you have task manager

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-gif-24964437

[real pagoda]

i mean task manager can only tell you that much

woah it just crashed window explorer lmao

i think i look at the wrong place, it only use around 500mb, but the cpu usage is like 17%, of which are very simple animation, i dont think it would consume that much power

[pastel imp]

what exactly is this again?

[wind patio]

upcomming triple A game

[real pagoda]

my uni research project

[drifting yoke]

 public RankChangeListener(LuckPerms luckPerms){
            EventBus eventBus = luckPerms.getEventBus();

            eventBus.subscribe(DataTracker.getInstance(), NodeMutateEvent.class, this::onNodeAdd);
        }

        private void onNodeAdd(NodeMutateEvent event){
                        DataTracker.getInstance().getLogger().info("Node Changed.");
        }

Shouldn't NodeMutateEvent be called whenever Im adding perms to groups/users or changing user groups etc?

My function is not even being executed. I'm using Velocity, and UserDataRecalculateEvent works fine, but I need this to work.

[crude cloud]

the event will be called on whatever LuckPerms instance that processed the change

if you add a node from the proxy LP, the event will fire on the proxy LP; if you add the node on a server LP, the event will fire on that server

[drifting yoke]

So I should listen to plugin messaging instead?

UserDataRecalculateEvent is called upon all instances once a recalculation is required but Node events only in the instance of the specific server?

[crude cloud]

the data recalculate event is fired because the data is reloaded from storage and so it ends up being recalculated; server A makes a change, server B is told something changed, but it doesn't know if something was added, removed etc

[drifting yoke]

Does plugin messaging give sufficient info so I can run whatever I need from my velocity instance?

[crude cloud]

no

all messaging means just say "something changed, reload this user's data"

[drifting yoke]

So no option other than making a second plugin for backend..

[crude cloud]

depends on what your goal is

[drifting yoke]

I have a velocity plugin that tracks domains and sends messages through discord webhook and I wanted to check if rank changed then send webhook. But I guess it has to be seperated now.

[crude cloud]

that'll be the best way yeah

[agile galleon]

Or just make all rank changes on velocity

[drifting yoke]

How do I escape dots in a config value to avoid confusion of nesting?
www.google.com: value

With the configuration of paper

[remote goblet]

off the top of my head, try String#replace(".", "\.");

[drifting yoke]

\. is an illegal escape character

[potent nest]

just put it in ""

[drifting yoke]

What do you mean?

[wind patio]

its '/'

[drifting yoke]

Still don't understand.

[potent nest]

"www.google.com": value

[wind patio]

wait no idrm

[wind patio]

yes

[drifting yoke]

I tried this. Doesn't work.

[wind patio]

doesnt let you specify it or what

[drifting yoke]

It deletes the quotes itself

[wind patio]

what about "[my.key]": value

im not on pc so cant check

[drifting yoke]

and then replace the squares?

[wind patio]

suares?

[drifting yoke]

replace squarebrackets

or should it be native to configuration api?

[wind patio]

uh not sure

depends on the impl

could try looping all the keys and checking what you get

[drifting yoke]

That doesn't work either. I'll try just replacings dots with dashes. Although, if anybody finds a way to use dots lmk

[wind patio]

if it doesnt work you could instead replace the dots to, lets say, - or _ before getting/setting the key

whop

[drifting yoke]

Great minds think alike, M...

[potent nest]

_ would be better because - is allowed in domains

[wind patio]

or any other wacky character that works w yml

[drifting yoke]

I have control over what the domains are so no dashes EVER

[potent nest]

sure if you think it's a good idea to write code that isn't future proof from the very beginning already

[drifting yoke]

underscores don't work either. They get cut for some reason so dashes are the ones!

[agile galleon]

Wth

[civic cairn]

[remote goblet]

day 2

[slate elk]

free text cloud

that stays for ever?

and that allows to create custom URL's

for rexample www.hello.com/text/url

[inner umbra]

Don't know of any... but sounds easy to make.

[slate elk]

not looking to host those.

i can make it

i wont host it

...

[half harness]

wdym

[slate elk]

like paste.com and etc

that allows to upload some text and it will stay for ever

?paste

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

Paste Services
When asking for help with a config/menu/code issue please use our paste bin:
(we prefer it over pastebin.com)
• HelpChat Paste - How To Use

Requested by: 89621 • paste

[half harness]

oh yeah why not make it? Could be a nice project
theres a bunch of other ones that other ppl have made such as https://pastes.dev (the one I personally like best), made by lucko

helpchat just uses hastebin

theres also https://xgob.in

made by an active member in the JDA server

and of course

https://pastebin.com

[inner umbra]

Well I was completely off on what you were asking for lmfao. Gonna keep the idea to myself though incase I ever want to make it now.

[slate elk]

because i dont want to host it for ever

its quitely the only reason why not

[half harness]

use a public pastebin

a lot are permanent

they just ask that you don't spam it and stuff

[inner umbra]

I think hastebin and its forks are the only ones non permanent right?

[half harness]

hastebin is non permanent yeah but i think helpchat pastebin is permanent

im not sure tho

actually

idk

i just used discord search feature and like 2020 helpchat pastes dont work

then discord dropped its magnifying glass 🥲

[inner umbra]

Mobile?

[half harness]

pc

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slate elk]

is there any with an API?

or nah

[inner umbra]

What do you mean then?

[inner umbra]

pastebin

[half harness]

all that I've listed above have an API

hastebin, pastebin/helpchat, gobin, pastes.dev

[slate elk]

pastebin has

gonna see the limits

[half harness]

https://i.imgur.com/8bG2uGM.png @inner umbra

[inner umbra]

Ah

[inner umbra]

You can just embed images here BTW don't have to use imgur. Only in #minecraft for some reason

[half harness]

pastebin's is more strict though due to its size

[slate elk]

yeah i saw their API

also wants Dev key

lmao

nah i aint doing that

hmmm cause final goal is save IPv4's

[half harness]

yeah #minecraft perms are weird lol
but I just used ShareX which automatically uploads & copies to clipboard

[inner umbra]

👍

[whole ravine]

so im a python dev and im curious about learning java for minecraft purposes. but im also wondering how i could still utilize python in a mc server workflow?

ah wait i guess i can make an api that uses server data, using sanic

[sly sonnet]

Python

[distant sun]

?nojquery moment

[static zealot]

jquery ❤️

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

Why you shouldn't use jQuery

• jQuery is a legacy library. Standardized features like querySelector, CSS animations, and fetch make many of its features obsolete.
• Using jQuery over standard features is a waste of bandwidth.
• Because jQuery is so bloated, using jQuery often means using jQuery for everything, which means you learn less about standard web development.
• jQuery has fallen out of fashion, and full frameworks (React, Angular, Vue) are more popular.
• jQuery's cross-browser support can be substituted with the few polyfills you actually need. This also makes it easier to update when features become better supported.
• If you really just want a shorthand for querySelectorAll, consider bling dot js.

Requested by: gabytm • nojquery

[long dagger]

anyone know if there is a way to keep a player's nametag even when they have a passenger?

[static zealot]

Because jQuery is so bloated, using jQuery often means using jQuery for everything, which means you learn less about standard web development.

jQuery has fallen out of fashion, and full frameworks (React, Angular, Vue) are more popular.

These 2 points together don't make a lot of sense.

[wintry plinth]

I’m not sure why we have a “no jQuery” FAQ for a Minecraft discord 😅

[static zealot]

I mean, the main topic is Minecraft but #development and #dev-general are not limited to just minecraft development.

[tribal plinth]

https://paste.ee consider checking it out

[tawdry night]

Ok for some reason discord pops up an upload failed error whenever I try to send messages in #development

https:// mclo.gs/wGNjzWR

@final scroll

[slate elk]

thanks ^^ it matches my needs

[real pagoda]

when you want to offset a few line of code into another class

[quaint isle]

At our company we've always named our git branches like this
fix/dashboard-pie-chart-showing-to-non-premium-users

however when looking up recommendations and best practices, most sites suggest something short like fix/dashboard-content.
Is there a reason why a shorter branch name is prefered or why our more descriptive approach is bad/pointless?

[wintry plinth]

Probably because the PR will say more information about it

[potent nest]

Yeah I’d say it’s mostly pointless, unless you’re working with many branches in parallel

[halcyon leaf]

%changeoutput_>=_input:{edprison_currency_killpoints}_matcher:{edprison_calc_(({edprison_variable_changeable_kp_booster}*{edprison_variable_changeable_kp_booster})*2)*150}_ifmatch:&a&l✔_else:&c&l✘% why is this not parsing?

[simple crown]

Too many placeholders in a placeholder

Try adding %utils_parse_changeoutput_…

Also, Don’t forget to install the utils extension

/papi ecloud download Utils

[halcyon leaf]

ok

%utils_parse_changeoutput_>=_input:{edprison_currency_killpoints}_matcher:{edprison_calc_(({edprison_variable_changeable_kp_booster}*{edprison_variable_changeable_kp_booster})*2)*150}_ifmatch:&a&l✔_else:&c&l✘%
like this?

[simple crown]

Yes

Let me know if you have any issues

[halcyon leaf]

doesn't work

[simple crown]

What does it output when you try to parse it?

[real pagoda]

a bit wonky, but it will do for me

[surreal garnet]

Ooh, what’s the end goal for that?

[real pagoda]

a level editor basically

[real pagoda]

got the grid working

[real pagoda]

im tired

[wind patio]

brrr

get flexed on kid

(im going insane)

[surreal garnet]

Ah

[surreal garnet]

You having fun there? XD

[real pagoda]

is this color look ok to the eyes ?

[wind patio]

yes (no)

[surreal garnet]

Lmfao

For this https://i.imgur.com/TWkQZmw.png

Took me too damn long, and I just put a line on the wrong line… I was raging in vc and was like why the hell isn’t this working then I asked my other friend and was like that’s why. 🤦‍♀️

Like the emojis were the biggest pain

[static zealot]

We use the issue/ticket code for this (prefix + incrementing number). For GitHub issues where the code is just an incrementing number, I got used to using issue/<nr>. Whenever there isn't an issue I can link, I either open one if possible or stick with short naming.

Using the issue/ticket code is pretty nice because:

• it lets others almost instantly know what the branch is for about even when there is no PR open yet and commits are just "oops", "shit", "fuck", "here we go again", "I hate my life"
• chances of conflicting branch naming are pretty much impossible unless multiple people are working on the same issue
• it makes finding old branches pretty easy (if for some reason you don't delete them when merged)

[real pagoda]

ray casting suck 😭

[crude cloud]

[real pagoda]

idk why running this sometime crash window explorer

[real pagoda]

interesting, it seem like my program sometime crash the windows gamebar

[real pagoda]

any1 know what could cause this? cursor position conflict ?

[potent nest]

looks like bad math somewhere

[real pagoda]

some1 pointed out that it is " wrapping the spites based on position instead of width"

[real pagoda]

horrible math mistake in fact

[fluid creek]

baole can you help me?

[real pagoda]

ummm

i

i honestly dont know

[fluid creek]

just a sec

[real pagoda]

what is the problem

[fluid creek]

could i send you photo in dm and you try to figure out?

[real pagoda]

idk, maybe you could send it here, some1 could help you also

[fluid creek]

i cant send photos here is blockd

[real pagoda]

....

no

[oblique heath]

use an image sharing website

[real pagoda]

it is not blocked

unless it is with permission and stuff

anyways if you need help with coding and stuff, send it here and maybe some1 can help you

[fluid creek]

how to send it?

i dont have the option to it

[oblique heath]

https://imgbb.com/

[real pagoda]

use an image hosting service

and if it is minecraft plugin code

i might not be able to help you

[fluid creek]

oh wait have it on pc cant send it anyway

[fluid creek]

oh ok

[half harness]

also you probably want to be asking in #general-plugins #placeholder-api #1007620980627230730 #minecraft

one of those channels

[fluid creek]

i did

[long dagger]

I was thinking, if you have a paid plugin, why not post it yourself to the nulled forums and stuff, but purposefully make it not work. Then people who do post legit plugins won't post yours cause it is already on there, and the people who download it don't get a working version.

[oblique heath]

big brain ngl

[long dagger]

Instead of going through the work of like keys and stuff

[oblique heath]

until someone reposts yours as a result of the one currently up not working

but still worth a try tbh

[long dagger]

It would stop most

Although ig they were never going to pay anyways so it doesn't matter

[long dagger]

Make sure that yours is always one version ahead (just rename the jar)

[simple crown]

It goes against most resource websites TOS

[long dagger]

Their nulled forums, their TOS doesn't mean squat

[simple crown]

No, I mean the official sites

BBB and Spigot dont allow that

[long dagger]

It's not the same plugin thoufh

[simple crown]

Youll get banned for leaking your own plugin with a backdoor

[long dagger]

It's just one that looks like it but never works

[half harness]

thats not a backdoor

[long dagger]

And how will they ever know it's me

[simple crown]

Oh

I thought he meant like have a backdoor

[long dagger]

Nah

I just meant have a million errors so they give up trying

[half harness]

although it'd prob just get low ratings and taken down

idk how moderation works there

[simple crown]

Mostlikely ^

[long dagger]

Yeah not sure

Anyways I bet half of the nulled forums plugins have backdoors in them

[oblique heath]

rookie numbers, we gotta get those numbers up

[long dagger]

Fr

[half harness]

true
whats the motivation behind posting on nulled forums anyways
besides putting a backdoor

[real pagoda]

just generate a new user key and distribute it as a gift

[long dagger]

Internet clout

[simple crown]

Just create a temporary license that works until it hits a random number of players lol

[long dagger]

Or just have some sort of troll mechanic in jt

Like randomly teleport players 5 blocks behind them so they think are lagging

Spawn a clown skin in the distance until they look at it, then it disappears

No one will believe them

[simple crown]

or after a random amount of events it just stops working with no errors

[real pagoda]

funny mouse position i got there ....

[wise prawn]

I want to add a chat reaction bot to my server i didn't find any bot

same as #chat-reaction

[pallid gale]

Ours is custom so that's probably why you didn't find it

[real pagoda]

mmm

bruh

i can post the error file if some1 know how to look into it

[potent nest]

that's the fun part of doing native stuff

but the log might contain a stacktrace that allows you to trace down where the issue is in your code

[real pagoda]

this the best the stack trace can give me, probably cause by my lambda expression

    public GameObject loadGameObj(int gObjectID) {
        Optional<GameObject> result = this.gObjects.stream().
                filter(gameObject -> gameObject.loadUid() == gObjectID).
                findFirst();

        return result.orElse(null);
    }

[potent nest]

nope not that one, in the hs_err file

[real pagoda]

oh

[real pagoda]

can you show me how to read it?

[potent nest]

Java frames: (J=compiled Java code, j=interpreted, Vv=VM code)
j  org.lwjgl.opengl.GL30C.nglGenFramebuffers(IJ)V+0
j  org.lwjgl.opengl.GL30C.glGenFramebuffers()I+20
j  org.lwjgl.opengl.GL30.glGenFramebuffers()I+0
j  render.ObjectSelection.init(II)Z+1
j  render.ObjectSelection.<init>(II)V+7
j  TCB_Field.Window.get()LTCB_Field/Window;+24
j  Main.main([Ljava/lang/String;)V+0
v  ~StubRoutines::call_stub 0x000001a5d2c610e7

this is probably the part you should look into

[real pagoda]

hmmm

oh the first 3 is opengl stuff so that is not the blame

so it probably at render.ObjectSelection.init

that is a frame buffer init

unless the error happening when i call this object in windows to imguilayer :/

i have assertion in frame buffer so that break then it should already tell me that framebuffer did not finish

[real pagoda]

I FIXED IT

screw constructor im gonna pass the value into my function

[real pagoda]

i just realized that the viewport position in my code is completely f-ed 💀

the white line is supposed to go from bottom left to top right

[real pagoda]

yeah my viewport coordinate calculation is completely f-ed

[real pagoda]

the more i check it the more pain im in

[wind patio]

what exactly is this and how is it created in git?

don't quite get it lol

[potent nest]

submodules

https://git-scm.com/docs/gitsubmodules

[wind patio]

so, basically
using the same example of server fork:

I have a root and two sub-modules -> ForkAPI, ForkSERVER
each sub-module has their own repo?

[potent nest]

Yeah they’re their own repository, that’s basically how the patch system works for paper forks

[pastel imp]

wait wuuuuuuuuuuut

never saw this in my life

lol

[wind patio]

I've seen it several times

always wondered what that is

[real pagoda]

finally fixed the mouse active callback zone

[whole ravine]

this is cool as shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tOvtZG0_6k

[hardy hull]

@heady grove

look dm

[real pagoda]

the gizmo literally said "im out of hear" 💀

[wintry plinth]

Hi all, for those who've got public Minecraft plugins that use storage adapters, like MySQL / MongoDB / YAML etc, which ones do you provide support for within your plugin?

E.g. MySQL + YAML, or just MySQL, etc

[onyx loom]

anything but yaml

[wintry plinth]

What's "anything"? What do your live plugins support

[potent nest]

MySQL/SQLite are good choices

[prisma wave]

if you insist on using flatfile at least use json

[remote goblet]

i also go for mysql/sqlite but its kinda dependant on what the plugin actually is

[wintry plinth]

Ah thanks all, I've been looking to work on a few plugins and wanted to see what storage types folks typically support these days

I didn't want to start supporting MySQL + SQLite + Mongo if people only support a small selection

[remote goblet]

sqlite can be pretty universal generally most people wont have any issues with it

mysql and mongo is less common but most servers that would those options should already know how to use it

[prisma wave]

Mongo is fairly uncommon I think

I wouldn’t ever add it unless clients explicitly said they wanted it

Especially since most hosting providers only give sql access

[remote goblet]

^

same with redis

[wintry plinth]

Good point, thanks - think I'll stick with MySQL + SQLite then 🙌

[pastel imp]

yeah, 100% agree

those 2 are the best options

[cobalt marlin]

i tend to go for postgresql

if there is the option

[pastel imp]

postgresql is good but not known by many

mysql is provided by basically all hosting providers

which makes life easier for the user

[remote goblet]

needing to support anything else is kinda dependant on the plugin popularity

[prisma wave]

ya

and vice versa

[remote goblet]

the only plugin that hasnt seem to have gotten that memo is essentials but

[pastel imp]

xD

[wintry plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/sushichaeng-reaction-drinking-drinking-wine-shade-gif-20924464

[remote goblet]

they're in too deep for that

[pastel imp]

essentials sucks anyways

[remote goblet]

any plugin in that sub category suck commonly

at least essentials doesnt have performance issues and apparently security vulnerabilities

[wintry plinth]

The best trick in 2024 is to check GUIs by their title amirite

[remote goblet]

thats true

i was talking about that one cmi bug but i actually dont know how it was replicated

[wintry plinth]

Theres a CMI bug? :o

[remote goblet]

earlier this month

was never too sure how it was replicated but

[wintry plinth]

Oh god

[remote goblet]

yeahhh

[wintry plinth]

First we had Log4J situation, now all of this

And that anti-cheat thing I heard with issues too

[remote goblet]

vulcan yes

and deluxecombat

and inventoryrollbackplus

spigot gui tutorials got the community in a frenzy

[wintry plinth]

What's the modern / safe approach these days for GUI stuff?

[remote goblet]

Inventory Holders i believe

generally just creating your own instance of InventoryHolder and if (Inventory#getHolder instanceof YourHolder)

[wintry plinth]

Ahhh interesting, thanks for that - will take a look at these then

I want to finally get back into building plugins, it’s been a while doing something with databases, GUIs etc

[remote goblet]

enjoy if you can!

i like making plugins but i hate making them public

aka i hate Robella from United States for doing a 1 star review on my plugin after never attempting to contact me and likely never reading plugin requirements

[wintry plinth]

Hahah, yeah - I bet 😂 I’d like to make some plugins for my server that use a DB etc, but it’s always so tedious with boilerplate

[remote goblet]

as more as core plugins are kinda

if you were making plugins for a specific server, creating a common library thats shared between all plugins is a preferred route imo

[wintry plinth]

I think I’m looking towards building my own library for DB and other utils, I’d open-source it anyway but yeah.. it would be good to have a nice ORM for it

Also looking forward to using the latest Java & mc stuff, rather than being tied to old shit

Like I’ve had to support Java 8 and 1.8 still on stuff, and I hate it

[remote goblet]

im a firm enjoyer of new java versions

[potent nest]

every sane dev is

[mystic dagger]

Excuse me but Java 7 was peak Java

Before it became a bloated mess

[remote goblet]

bloat is when something adds incredible quality of life improvements to a project

[wintry plinth]

For stuff like Tebex Analytics, I’ve had to use okhttp for requests (as only modern Java has some native HTTP stuff). It means that I end up with a huge jar file

I know people say it doesn’t matter, but to me it does 😂

[remote goblet]

my 18mbps enjoys small file sizes

[mystic dagger]

You don’t really have to use okhttp even if you’re not on 11

It bundles both okio and the kotlin standard library, it’s one of the worst libraries if you want to keep size down

[wintry plinth]

3-4mb jars are the bane of my existence 😭 sadly it’s needed for 1.8+ guys

[wintry plinth]

What would you use them for POST requests and such?

It needs to be Java 8 and above

[mystic dagger]

I might be ever so slightly biased, but https://github.com/IntellectualSites/HTTP4J was made for this exact purpose

We had to keep the plotsquared jar small to ship through spigot and also support Java 8

In general I’d avoid using okhttp (only real reason to use it is through retrofit) and use feign instead as it’s a lot more versatile, but I’m not sure if they ever had a build for 8

[wintry plinth]

Woah!! Thanks for sharing this, I’m gonna check it out. I’d love to get our jar sizes down, as I do hate how big okhttp makes it (because of the bundles dependencies)

[mystic dagger]

Mfw I join and instantly start advertising my crap

[ocean quartz]

Classic

[wintry plinth]

https://github.com/track/plugin/blob/main/sdk/src/main/java/io/tebex/analytics/sdk/request/AnalyseRequest.java and https://github.com/track/plugin/blob/main/sdk/src/main/java/io/tebex/analytics/sdk/SDK.java at the moment with OkHttp, will defo consider dumping that for your thing

[mystic dagger]

Looks simple enough where http4j would suffice

[wintry plinth]

Yeah it’s often just a simple POST, or retrieving data from API to be honest 😂

I could see us changing the Tebex plugin to use this as well

[mystic dagger]

It’s a decently thin wrapper around the ancient Java client which was a nightmare to use

In modern Java it’s almost fine to use the official http client but I’m still a sucker for feign (which can use the j11 client as the implementation)

[wintry plinth]

I hated how frustrating it was to deal with api requests for Java 8 to be honest, modern versions have native stuff, but older stuff is shit

Yeah you’ve beat me to it 😂

[distant sun]

Funny and true

[pastel imp]

TriumphGuis uses inventory holders so you safe

[pastel imp]

Also, totally feel ya, hence why I am wondering if for that one project, if I should support 1.8. In theory supporting it would be a good idea but I just... mheeee

[real pagoda]

another (almost failed night)

[slim pilot]

So i am trying to load data from mysql and i get this error

https://paste.helpch.at/fimiwegevu.rb

[distant sun]

-testing WHERE PlayerUUID

[slim pilot]

how would i fix that

i just started learning mysql today

[distant sun]

what is -testing, is that the name of the table?

[slim pilot]

the database

well it should be

s6_Webhead-testing

[distant sun]

A database has multiple tables and queries are for tables. I'm not sure but - might not be allowed for table / column names

[slim pilot]

hm ok

thanks

[real pagoda]

aye

[oblique heath]

have you been testing your SQL queries in the mysql console before putting them in your plugin

definitely a good idea especially if you are just learning, lets you see if they work or not immediately

[real pagoda]

is it possible to rebuild a project that was previously run on java 6 now on java 21 ?

in term of compatibility

[ocean quartz]

Java 6??

[ocean quartz]

Dear god

[real pagoda]

pls dont tell me i will have to write a new physic engine

just tested with java 17

also not supported

[potent nest]

that error message doesn't sound like you need to use Java 6, you just need to properly configure your pom

[real pagoda]

what shoudl i do

try java 8 ?

[potent nest]

no, set the java version in your pom

[real pagoda]

well at least it is still maintained

[real pagoda]

i did set it in the pom file

[potent nest]

show it

[potent nest]

and the Project SDK is set to 21 as well?

[real pagoda]

yeah

[ocean quartz]

Make sure to also update the plugins versions

[real pagoda]

anyways i will go and get java 8 on my machine

[potent nest]

what's the output when you run mvn package in the console?

[crude cloud]

that isn't going to fix anything

[real pagoda]

is this the latest plugin version

[crude cloud]

no, of the maven plugins in your pom file

just send the entire pom lol

[real pagoda]

<project xmlns="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0 http://maven.apache.org/xsd/maven-4.0.0.xsd">
    <modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion>
    <parent>
        <artifactId>jbox2d</artifactId>
        <groupId>org.jbox2d</groupId>
        <version>2.2.1.1</version>
    </parent>
    <artifactId>jbox2d-testbed-jogl</artifactId>
    <version>1.0.1</version>
    <packaging>jar</packaging>
    <url>http://code.google.com/p/jbox2d/</url>
    <properties>
        <maven.compiler.source>21</maven.compiler.source>
        <maven.compiler.target>21</maven.compiler.target>
    </properties>
    <description>Project for making a jogl panel for the testbed</description>


    <dependencies>
        <dependency>
            <groupId>org.jbox2d</groupId>
            <artifactId>jbox2d-library</artifactId>
            <version>2.2.1.1</version>
            <type>jar</type>
            <scope>compile</scope>
        </dependency>
        <dependency>
            <groupId>org.jbox2d</groupId>
            <artifactId>jbox2d-serialization</artifactId>
            <version>1.1.0</version>
            <type>jar</type>
            <scope>compile</scope>
        </dependency>
        <dependency>
            <groupId>org.jbox2d</groupId>
            <artifactId>jbox2d-testbed</artifactId>
            <version>2.2.1.1</version>
            <type>jar</type>
            <scope>compile</scope>
        </dependency>
        <dependency>
            <groupId>org.jogamp.gluegen</groupId>
            <artifactId>gluegen-rt-main</artifactId>
            <version>2.0-rc11</version>
        </dependency>
        <dependency>
            <groupId>org.jogamp.jogl</groupId>
            <artifactId>jogl-all-main</artifactId>
            <version>2.0-rc11</version>
        </dependency>
    </dependencies>
</project>

[crude cloud]

might need to specifically add the maven compiler plugin or smth, no clue

[crude cloud]

and what about this

[crude cloud]

https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-compiler-plugin/usage.html
https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-compiler-plugin/examples/set-compiler-release.html

[real pagoda]

i think java 8 is this library max supported version

[crude cloud]

sure

[potent nest]

that doesn't make sense

[real pagoda]

....

[real pagoda]

tried with java 11, this is probably why

[crude cloud]

yeah cuz you need to explicitly specify the release flag

[crude cloud]

^ otherwise maven will default to 6 i guess

[real pagoda]

was this the thing i added ?

[crude cloud]

probably needed to add the compiler plugin?

i'm not entirely sure how maven handles missing it

[real pagoda]

is it the plugin that bundle with the ide :?

[crude cloud]

no

in the pom file

[crude cloud]

^

🥲

[real pagoda]

sorry, i had never work with maven before

[real pagoda]

added both...., idk if i done something wrong, maybe the order is important ?

change the 21 to 11 work tho

[timber oak]

Which tool should I use for decompiling a jar?

[potent nest]

vineflower probably

kinda depends on what you want to achieve

[timber oak]

Actually not even sure if this would be legal. It's decompiling a premium plugin (that I bought) and making a fork of it kinda from there lol

They just don't sell source code

And the support is very slow, with barely any features, so we want to make a custom plugin like it

[wind patio]

yeah well Id say thats against the license, if there is one

and should be pretty obvious as it is, that you shouldnt do that lol

[ocean quartz]

Well kinda, he owns the version he has so he techinically can do what ever with it, except distribute

But then again I ain't a lawyer so don't take what I say lol

Plus I'd be more worried with working with decompiled code and trying to re-compile that back, and some plugins get obfuscated to hell

[wind patio]

or sometimes decompiler is just ass

[crude cloud]

layer

[ocean quartz]

Idk what you're talking about

[crude cloud]

:3

[timber oak]

That's what I'm thinking, and I'll just use it for a server where noone will have access to the files anyway

Except the devs ofc

[acoustic surge]

halo people

[real pagoda]

            float epsilon = 0.0001f;
            while (Math.abs(val.x % 0.32f) > epsilon) {
                float offsetX = val.x % 0.32f;
                if (offsetX != 0 && Math.abs(offsetX) >= 0.16f) {
                    val.x += offsetX;
                } else if (offsetX != 0 && Math.abs(offsetX) < 0.16f) {
                    val.x -= offsetX;
                } else {
                    break;
                }
            }

            while (Math.abs(val.y % 0.32f) > epsilon) {
                float offsetY = val.y % 0.32f;
                if (offsetY != 0 && Math.abs(offsetY) >= 0.16f) {
                    val.y += offsetY;
                } else if (offsetY != 0 && Math.abs(offsetY) < 0.16f) {
                    val.y -= offsetY;
                } else {
                    break;
                }
            }

What i should remove to optimize this

[agile galleon]

if you just want to "optimize this", the compiler should do it already

maybe some more info would be useful

[real pagoda]

like in term of condition, is there anything that i can remove

or maybe combine the condition

[agile galleon]

That should be stuff that the compiler optimizes as much as possible

[real pagoda]

oh ok

[agile galleon]

Are you having issues with performance?

[real pagoda]

not really

[agile galleon]

if it aint broke dont fix it

thinking about optimization before it's required is a big no no

[real pagoda]

i will take note of that

[potent nest]

What are you even doing there

With stuff like that you might need to be careful to not accidentally create infinite loops

[real pagoda]

there is an issue tho, sometime it will return value that is absolutely out of view

probably my eppsilon is still too small

or i could implement a count down so it will stop at certain loop and the user can click it again

[potent nest]

You just want to round to the nearest integer?

[real pagoda]

like this

example of a case that the return case is kina broken\

[ocean quartz]

If the grid lines are constant distance shouldn't it be as simple as rounding the coordinate to the nearest multiplier of the constant distance?

[real pagoda]

erm yes they are a constant

[ocean quartz]

An example:

fun main() {
    val const = 0.3
    val coordinate = Grid(1.15, 0.27)

    val nearest = Grid(coordinate.x.nearest(const), coordinate.y.nearest(const))

    println(coordinate)
    println(nearest)
}

private fun Double.nearest(const: Double): Double {
    return const * (this / const).roundToInt()
}

Result

Grid(x=1.15, y=0.27)
Grid(x=1.2, y=0.3)

[pastel imp]

with what is this being done?

[ocean quartz]

Snapping to the grid

[agile galleon]

there is no way rounding wasn't the first idea

[slate elk]

is this malware?

i came back to my pc and i have this thing open

i left it in public place open.

nvm same somethng default by win

[agile galleon]

since when do you leave your PC open in public????

also, as you can see at the top, considering they didn't do anything else, it's just curl parrot.live

[remote goblet]

[slate elk]

nothng i checked logs

i just saw that animation and i shit my self

[agile galleon]

lmao

[forest pecan]

https://modrinth.com/plugin/clientcrasher

this is what it says in api lol

# Crash player
Bukkit.dispatchCommand(Bukkit.getConsoleSender(), "crash " + player.getName())
# Add or remove player from crash list
Bukkit.dispatchCommand(Bukkit.getConsoleSender(), "alwayscrash " + player.getName())

"It literally blows the client up."

[distant sun]

Funny https://github.com/goteusz-maszyk/ClientCrasher-Spigot/blob/5ea75adba13bd417cf38faec05c823393b816fbf/src/main/java/me/gotitim/clientcrasher/ClientCrasher.java#L41

[real pagoda]

i must confest that i didnt think of rounding, i just think of subtracting the offset to return the "supposes grid" location

[pastel imp]

anyone knows a good library for fawe schematic pasting?

[crude cloud]

yeah, uh, fawe?

[lavish notch]

JUnit is killing me, not sure if I am just tired or what but like... how even does this fail? I've also tried just the ==.

[half harness]

try printing it out in like base64 or smth

idk

thats really weird tho 🥲

[lavish notch]

I am actually commit jump out a window.

Visual Studios Code was showing my historic test runs and I was simply re-running those without realising.

[wind patio]

as dkim said, try assertArrayEquals(expected.getBytes(), actual.getBytes());

also

try trimming them

if my assumption is correct, look at the gray area around the messages

the right one seems to have new line or a lot of whitespace characters?

pardon janky paint

[cinder flare]

might be a classic Java == vs .equals() moment

yup

assertSame means referential equality, assertEquals does a .equals() comparison

[cinder flare]

^

[lavish notch]

@wind patio @cinder flare

[cinder flare]

ah

funny

[lavish notch]

Hence my test also is wacky as I was trying everything under the sun.

[wind patio]

oof

[distant sun]

Why are you using VSC for java 🤨

[potent nest]

VSC for Java ist hilarious

it's sometimes randomly deleting code when reformatting

[distant sun]

I had to use it for a class, the professor doesn't like how heavy IJ is and is saying that "with some extensions, vsc can replace any ide". Anyways, I also use eclipse at work for some stupid project and I can say that I would prefer to use vsc LOL

( Those who made the project, some internal tool, dont use a build tool and their tutorial only shows how to use eclipse )

[long dagger]

My teacher uses XCode for Java

I don't even know how

But the computer lab is all M1 iMacs for whatever reason and he refuses to use any program besides XCode

[distant sun]

The guy that "made" the tool uses Apache Netbeans ☠️ I'm glad that the tutorials weren't made for it

[wind patio]

netbeans 💀

[pastel imp]

I use netbeans at school

tbh prefer that over eclipse

[wind patio]

eclipse 💀

[obtuse gale]

Just use neovim

Will forget what an IDE is forever

Cause you wont be able to quit it... literally.

[pallid gale]

Don't post the same message across multiple channels and stick to the relevant topic for each channel. Spamming won't be tolerated.

[placid rose]

sorry..

im just desperate

have I been banned from showcase?

[pallid gale]

Currently blacklisted, yes.

[placid rose]

for how long?

[deep cypress]

GG

[forest pecan]

?

why did you reply to a message that was over 3 years ago lol

[half harness]

🥲

[timber oak]

Kinda confused how packets work, they are "messages" directly sent from the plugin to the player right? So it doesn't go through the server. Isn't it always more efficient to use packets then?

[half harness]

well packets represent any information sent to the server by the player or information sent to the player by the server
so even with 0 plugins, packets are still being sent
however, if you only send packets without updating the server, it'll cause desync (ex if you send a block packet, the client will think that there's a block that doesn't actually exist in the server)

[timber oak]

I see, that makes sense, I've seen it's generally used for NPC's etc. which actually makes sense then yeah

[oblique heath]

it is often more efficient to use packets though since that allows you to basically implement your own handlers for certain parts of nms rather than rely on the often scuffed actual code

[timber oak]

But isn't the code often pretty optimized? At least when using paper

[half harness]

yeah for NPCs theres no desync, just make sure to handle the click events and stuff via packets as well if the NPC is completely client-side (which it always isn't, I don't remember if Citizens does)

[oblique heath]

depending on what you mean by optimized yes and no

if you have a very specific goal in mind then you definitely want to resort to packets

[timber oak]

But what if the API has a method to do exactly what you need? Then it's preferred right?

[oblique heath]

yeah probably since using the api has a lot of benefits

namely not breaking for every new version

[timber oak]

Yeah, and more easily extensible + readable imo

But doesn't the API use packets behind the scenes anyway?

With more ofc.

[half harness]

yeah

[oblique heath]

yes

but when you use the API you're abstracting that away and letting them handle the pitfalls of packets

[half harness]

packets by itself don't optimize anything
it's the skipping of other steps (ex for NPCs, the server doesn't have to tick the NPC entities)

[timber oak]

But everything used in the API goes through the server as well, so for tasks that doesn't need that, I suppose using packets is better?

[oblique heath]

you only see the nice convenient high level api methods

[half harness]

yeah
besides what u guys mentioned above #dev-general message #dev-general message

[timber oak]

I see, yeah makes sense

I don't think I've ever really used packets myself lol

I just used DecentHolograms which is packet based for performance

So just wondered

[half harness]

i think that allows the server to skip armorstand rendering
and maybe DecentHolograms does something async, which wouldn't be possible regularly, idk 🤷

[oblique heath]

basically if you want to do weird stuff not supported by the bukkit API or you want to change / remove some server behaviors like dkim said is when you want packets

for example i believe bukkit currently does not have a way to show horse inventories

[upbeat rune]

I'm using the DeluxMenu plugin and created a menu item with the commands /ajuda and /help. However, they are not being registered correctly and appear in red in the chat. How can I resolve this issue?

[timber oak]

I'd recommend trying to ask in #general-plugins or #1007620980627230730

[timber oak]

Ye sounds right

[timber oak]

Oh that's actually kinda weird lol

[slate elk]

hmmm it make no sense

the difference would be even feelable ngl

[slate elk]

armorstand r diff entity from normal entities

its tick is like 0 paiin to server

[half harness]

Oh

[slate elk]

the only reason why it based on packets to display differrent values for different tlike pllaceholderrs probably

so player 1 see he has 100$ other see 200$ in his bank (which is armorstand)

[half harness]

Or

It's prob bc then armorstands would get lost

If they were real entities

[slate elk]

nah... u can cancel many events and etc

[half harness]

That's not what I mean

[slate elk]

its easier then making entire thing packet based

not sure what u mean get lost xd

[timber oak]

I mean I have no clue how the plugin works but yeah, it's what it says on their site lol

[timber oak]

That would make sense yeah, as it does support placeholder api

[slate elk]

its pretty simple

if it was coded very well into performance

and not like just sending packets it will be worse performance how ever we r in 2k24 and modern cpu would make no difference in small scales

by splitting world into chunks

and sending packet only when player is in near chunk / in the message chunk

and running async tasks to update player chunk positions

else u will send too many packets to a player for no reason

[timber oak]

Yeah they said they have made a system for view distance

Specifically for the holograms

I think it's a pretty decent plugin tbf

[slate elk]

its really easy to code tbh

but yeah correct way to code.

[bitter mason]

yo

[static zealot]

I just found daisyUI... A component library for TailwindCSS that uses it to create custom classes....

Why is it so hard to just find a library that gives you some premade html components made with tailwindcss that I can just copy paste into my code

[ocean quartz]

https://tailwindui.com/components :)

[static zealot]

Thanks

[ocean quartz]

Daisy has the html too btw

https://daisyui.com/components/

[wintry plinth]

I recommend this a ton, been my go-to these days. Then spend time changing/styling things to your liking

[static zealot]

Yeah but they still add their own classes and stuff. They don't use tailwindcss as its supposed to be used

[ocean quartz]

Meanwhile I have been playing with jetpack compose, some of the stuff for desktop is horrible :')

[static zealot]

oh

I've used the android one before. in my experience, it was great

but I believe the desktop one is completely different so idk

[ocean quartz]

It's pretty much the same, what is bad about it isn't the main UI stuff
The worse is the toolbar, by default you can't customize it, and have to use the ugly java default

[static zealot]

Oh. I see.

[ocean quartz]

You can hide it and implement your own, but you lose the snapping functionality

I ended up having to use jetbrains runtime, then hack my way into implementing a window that actually works :')

[static zealot]

At least it has a black theme. lol. I remember working with C# and Windows Forms or whatever it was called and even changing its color was a pain

[onyx loom]

i feel like anything to do with ui is just a pain

[ocean quartz]

It doesn't that is from waht I already made

[static zealot]

oh. nvm then

[static zealot]

for desktop, 100%

[ocean quartz]

This is the default

Mine is a darktheme version of the default, but I have full control of it now

Like giant buttons :)

[static zealot]

Nice

[pastel imp]

confused are you doing a website or app?

wait programs with tailwind or what?

[agile galleon]

???

That's compose desktop

[cobalt marlin]

ended up doing the same, but the math is horrible sometimes

[distant sun]

Whats your goal?

[placid rose]

Somebody here knowledgeable with MMOItems?

something dumb and quick please help me 🙂

[distant sun]

Open? Yes
Create? No

[static zealot]

DeluxeMenus isn't a library, it is a plugin and it wasn't designed for use like this. We are currently designing a versioned public interface for it which in the future could be used for things like registering custom menus, opening menus, etc.

Right now, what you can do is access DeluxeMenus' private methods and use those. You have to remember that those methods can and will change without warning.

Since the plugin isn't a library, there is no remote repository you can use so you will have to use the plugin jar and mark it as required for compile time only. The way to do this differs from build tool to build tool so I recommend you google it. Just remember to not shade DeluxeMenus inside your plugin.

[distant sun]

Ye, working

[static zealot]

shh

go review my PR

[static zealot]

please

[distant sun]

Can I just accept it?

[static zealot]

You can

[distant sun]

[static zealot]

So if it breaks, I can just blame you

ez

[agile galleon]

Wat

In MC?

How would that work

[distant sun]

you can not do that with a plugin

what you are talking about is a mod

[pastel imp]

shirt answer is yes but that would require all players to download the mod, which is simply stupid

also plugins and mods together is a big nono overall

dont use stuff like mohist or whatever its called

[deep cypress]

Gold this February

[hallow crane]

I'm working on this recreation of an iOS app's network functions in python and I came across this interesting web request flow that I can't replicate.

An HTTP GET request is sent to the server with some headers asking to upgrade the connection to a Websocket connection and the response with code 101 comes back, then the connection switches protocols to a websocket connection and the server sends a JSON payload with some data.

I can make that HTTP GET and get a 101 back, but when I try to open a new connection to the URL I get a 400. I think this is because I'm initiating a NEW connection instead of making use of the old one with the switched protocol.

In python, how can I continue off with that connection where the switched protocol came from?

Can anyone confirm if my interpretation of the issue is even right

[oblique heath]

i believe your interpretation is right

websockets are an upgrade to http so it makes sense you would not open a new connection

[hallow crane]

I've asked AI about this issue and it doesn't seem like they are trained at all to understand it because I just get code back that initiates a new connection now matter how many times I change up the prompt.

I also haven't had any luck on stackoverflow. Someone had a similar question but it's been unanswered for years

[oblique heath]

worst case you can try analyzing what existing websocket libraries do

[hallow crane]

Would you suggest maybe making my own and trying to pick up some connection object and re-use it

Going as low level as possible

[oblique heath]

i would suggest using an existing library if possible, since there is really no benefit to reinventing the wheel

[hallow crane]

The library I'm trying to emulate is from a native Swift iOS library, so there's no way to know exactly how it works- maybe there's some python one out there. I'll look into that- thanks.

[slate elk]

anyone used java to build a website?? EDIT front and backend.

i know there are some libararies

but can share their exprience versus building web in a standart way

[hallow crane]

I actually decompiled the app and found it to be using the Starscream (https://github.com/daltoniam/Starscream) library. It looks like it uses an unorthodox method of connection upgrading that I can't figure out how to emulate with low level Socket http connections. Any idea where to go from here?

[slate elk]

didnt get in first place what network functions do u try to replicate

maybe there an easier solution

then copy cat

[hallow crane]

I've actually figured it out

I had some logic mistakes in my socket requests

The upgrade seems to happen automatically according to the WS 13 docs

[civic cairn]

Yo where can i learn basics of frontend development

[simple crown]

YouTube university, Codeacademy, and a lot of other sites

[final pine]

Hey guys! Quick question if ya'll could help me out. I am currently developing a public RP server and am looking into doing a couple things. I'm wanting to remove the ability to craft diamond armor/weapons, but still give the players the ability to mine diamonds normally for future use. We are currently using MMOitems and a few other plugins, but I'm wondering what I can do to get this result. I've tried a good amount of things, including the /recipe take but it just goes back to normal once I pick up diamonds again. Any suggestions? Thank you! (You can ping me!)

[humble prism]

Customcrafting from wolfyscript

can remove vanilla recipes iirc

[final pine]

Thank you!!!! Will look into this asap!!

[acoustic raptor]

How do I set permissions to an item in the Deluxe menu that requires permission when selecting or clicking it?

[static zealot]

To get help with DeluxeMenus, ask in #general-plugins

[long dagger]

Check out Vaadin

[crude cloud]

https://fxtwitter.com/TylerGlaiel/status/1755103626190843987

[storm kelp]

Is there a reason you want to?

Java Spring was what I used for a uni project, it's got good support and online tutorials available

freeCodeCamp's got a solid starter one on it

[inner umbra]

Best I came up with was sending HTML upon request.

[storm kelp]

But that's just a fetch

[simple crown]

Eh, time to learn Java

[slate elk]

not really i just think its a nice project for portfilio 😉

[storm kelp]

Usually you'd want portfolio projects to be applicable for contemporary use-cases, the number of java websites in production is probably close to none compared to C# or PHP

Still an interesting idea though, for one of my projects we made a mini dungeon RPG in Java Swing 😂

[agile galleon]

There are more Java backends than you think afaik

[potent nest]

definitely

basically every larger company has some Java somewhere in their tech stack

[distant sun]

I'm working at a bank and they have a lot of java apps, and C# too

[pastel imp]

java is still one of the most used languages

and will be for a while.

If their updates continue getting gudd

they might actually stay for longer

[wind patio]

we use java and drupal where I work lol

[ocean quartz]

Spring is like the pillar of so many companies

[static zealot]

Yeah but I think most of the people that replied were mostly talking about the fact that they want java on the frontend

[wintry plinth]

I suppose I must feel quite privileged that we don’t have any Java or C# codebases at Tebex

Backend wise that is

[static zealot]

~40% of the codebase I work with is Java, and I don't mind it. It is pretty well written and maintained. I do mind the 60% Python though.

[wintry plinth]

I think Java codebases in the sense of MC plugins I don’t mind, but I would hate to be working with Java for anything backend / API related

[prisma wave]

spring is pretty nice

[ocean quartz]

To answer the original question, I guess you can use a template engine with Spring boot something like Thymeleaf or Freemarker, but that's quite cursed so don't

[wind patio]

spring is somewhat similar to symfony in terms of annotation based controllers

imo

[distant sun]

I guess it depends what the website is for after all these template engines have a purpose

For a more complexe website it is better to go the javashit way for the frontend, sadly

[potent nest]

how is that priviledged lmao

giving up all the good technology for what??

[distant sun]

Javashit 4 ever

[wind patio]

laravel good

[potent nest]

fair, but I doubt they're using laravel

[distant sun]

I always find it funny how TS was created to get rid of probably the 'best' thing about js: being dynamic typed

[wind patio]

yes

that turned out to be a disaster

runtime issues 💀

and with the way js works, thank god for ts

I always find the equalities of certain objects and what not in js extra funny

or

[slate elk]

how is my rizz good?

[wintry plinth]

We are :P

[wintry plinth]

I couldn’t imagine anything worse than dealing with Spring APIs haha

[potent nest]

there is more than just spring

but generally, spring is just ahead of basically everything else

[slate elk]

got rejected

lmao

[pastel imp]

uhm random question, for context, I am making a plugin that basically intercepts several packets and allows the use of MiniMessage on them, objective is to allow minimessage to be used anywhere even if no support is given originally. This works by adding [mm] before the line/message.
(You can also make it so that no prefix is needed, every message/line/whatever would be processed)

Now, I was thinking on doing the same thing but for PAPI support, in this case, even if no PAPI support is given, if you place [papi] before, all placeholders will be translated. I have 2 questions in regards to this:

• Is this a good idea to do? (PAPI support)
• How would it even work? Since for minimessage to work it requires [mm] in the front and for papi [papi], what if I want both? xD any ideas?

(Not even 100% sure this is the right channel, maybe #minecraft would be best? idk)

[prisma wave]

Is this a good idea to do?
sure why not
How would it even work?
if (str.startsWith("[mm]") || str.startsWith("[papi][mm]")) hehe

the second question seems like a fairly arbitrary design decision where it's kinda just whatever you want

[pastel imp]

fair ngl

I could in theory use regex here but do I wanna mess with regex? xD

[prisma wave]

it would be a pretty easy regex

just gotta escape the [] and ur done

[pastel imp]

jokes on you, single time I messed with regex, was at school, in linux xd

[prisma wave]

in linux?

like sed?

[pastel imp]

sed?

[prisma wave]

sed

for filtering

and like text replacement

[pastel imp]

and @half harness (saw the message before you deleted), by default, only system messages are "translated", you will be able to enable that normal players are able to use it, it will still be permission locked though. So, it's up to the user if he uses a placeholder that uses js.

[pastel imp]

yes.

idk if that's actual regex

but similar enough

[static zealot]

Always be careful when parsing placeholders inside user input. Some expansions are ... for lack of a better word ... Stupid

[pastel imp]

that's the thing I mentioned to dkim, 1. only places with the prefix [papi] will be parsed, 2. only if enabled will chat be parsed. So, either way, if the message doesn't have [papi] behind it, nothing will happen. Besides will add a configuration where you can fully ignore papi parsing in player messages.

This is mainly aimed for plugins either way, the player messages are just a tiny extra.

[half harness]

Ohh is it for clientbound packets

[half harness]

Note that I think there's a plugin that converts all chat messages to system messages

To prevent reporting

[pastel imp]

welp, can't help with that xD

[pastel imp]

and, I think yes? (If I still recall what outbound means since I always confuse them)

[half harness]

Sorry that's kinda ambiguous
Edited

[tardy drum]

hello I have a question if someone knows the answer, so I have server set on 1.20.2 spigot, I have plugins configs etc set. And I need to change it to Mohist but the problem is there is only 1.20.1 version, is that gonna cause my plugins to not work properly?

[pastel imp]

uh... things being sent from server to client so yes? idfk lmao

[crude cloud]

your bigger issue is that you cannot load on an older versio a world that was created on newer versions

[tardy drum]

Oh fuck

[tardy drum]

So you're telling me plugins will work but world not

God damn

[crude cloud]

well, if the plugins use 1.20.2 functionality that didn't exist in 1.20.1 then those won't work properly

[tardy drum]

They do use both they existed

Before

God

look I'm hosting on GPortal I'm not really familiar with engines and I don't know if I can install my own engine to gportal for Forge and Spigot in one

On version 1.20.2

As I searched gportal has Mohist 1.20.1 and I know its both Forge and Spigot

[crude cloud]

you could check out Arclight, it seems to be the somewhat functioning spigot/forge hybrid but I don't know what version it's for

[tardy drum]

Arclight lemme seek

Well I see only that

Mohist 1.20.1, Purpurs, Spigots, Papers, Forge and Fabric

No other pure engines rest are just premade packs of mods etc

[crude cloud]

why do you need to switch to mohist? if spigot is listed there

[tardy drum]

I need Mods and Plugins at once

I have also and option of Sponge Forge but I don't know if this gonna work for more people and stable

I just need mod like better combat to be placed and only that, rest of them are client sided mods

[tardy drum]

Nvm sponge has only 1.12.2 XD

[crude cloud]

sponge has 1.16.5 I think but yeah, slow development

[tardy drum]

Yea on GPortal they have only 1.12.2 xd

[crude cloud]

ah

well

good luck xD

[tardy drum]

Well I asked gportal support maybe they can provide me it or tell me something

[humble prism]

gportal is literally shit, its owned by contabo and uses its horrible hardware and networking

[cobalt mesa]

i dont know what gportal is but if its owned by contabo, then i agree

[humble prism]

https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/442977-40

gportal is a game hosting company

[cobalt mesa]

yeah i see

[slate elk]

contabo is fine comparing to other comapnies

but a bit more and u can get OVH

[humble prism]

eh if you're fine with insanely oversold servers and like 10% packet loss in some locations ig

[agile galleon]

Contabo is fine for cheap 7 buck personal servers, does the job

[humble prism]

depends on usecase, would not use for Mc there's so many better options

[agile galleon]

Obviously

[slender wolf]

Dont know what yall talking about but if someone is looking for a dedi server id suggest hetzner. got several dedis there, no problems so far and the machines work great. Check out the Server Auctions too, good deals there.

[wintry plinth]

I can personally vouch for Hetzner too

[agile galleon]

Same

[wind patio]

damn

we pay around 200/month for 7950x3d 1tb ssd and 64gb ram

on hetzner its 110 plus 2tb nvme and 128gb ram

[wintry plinth]

damn where from

I still pay for a OVH box since Black Friday (GAME-2) and have a Hetzner box

[wind patio]

its from my country, vpsnet.lt

catastrophic host 💀

[wintry plinth]

Lmao, wow

[wind patio]

not sure how much I should rely on reddit, but some comments are pretty harsh now that im reading about hetzner

its also pretty odd that its whole -100 euros compared to what we pay, plus it offers more storage and ram

how can it be so cheap lol

[distant sun]

Fr

[wind patio]

france mentioned???

https://tenor.com/view/france-eiffel-tower-paris-mustache-bonjour-gif-15166247

[distant sun]

Unmanaged servers and probably other reasons too https://www.reddit.com/r/hetzner/s/nD4DnKUAmM

[wind patio]

unmanaged how?

they rent you the hardware and whatever happens its up to you?

or unmanaged as in they dont do any backups, etc

[distant sun]

I guess you simply do everything by yourself

[wind patio]

hm

[distant sun]

You get access to the server and glhf

[wind patio]

yeah ig the one pro what we currently have is that we have daily backups and ddos protection

and probably some other stuff we might need

[distant sun]

I mean, backups are done automatically, they can still be provided even for unmanaged servers

[wind patio]

I really dont wanna bother setting up our personal ddos protection lol

and cloudflare expenso

[distant sun]

https://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1853455 3rd reply is from an employee

[lavish notch]

I have similar with my R9 5950x on another EU provider, although I do pay 2x hetzner price. Perks are that I also get additional ips for $1/ip

[half harness]

what would you get on a managed server for example?

[lavish notch]

System Admin support ofc.

[slate elk]

good app to be able to develop electricity curicuts and test them?

i know there is typo

dont be judgy

[slate elk]

No... its big company everything is mananged very well

how ever their ISP routes are really bad...