dev-general

[crude cloud]

get good

(tier 2)

[tardy dagger]

tier?

are there levels and tiers?

[crude cloud]

yeah you gain xp by chatting basically

1 tier = 10 levels

[tardy dagger]

oh

[crude cloud]

why do i have two tiers

[tardy dagger]

you can give one to me

[crude cloud]

i don't think i can, unfortunately

[tardy dagger]

buildtools be like "does this look correct?"

Hey! You're about to run the following command. Does it look correct?

C:\Users\mfnal\.jdks\openjdk-18.0.1.1\bin\java.exe -Xms512M -cp C:\Users\mfnal\IdeaProjects\buildtools3\target\classes;C:\Users\mfnal\.m2\repository\com\custardsource\dybdob\java-diff-utils-copy\1.0.5\java-diff-utils-copy-1.0.5.jar;C:\Users\mfnal\.m2\repository\com\google\guava\guava\31.0.1-jre\guava-31.0.1-jre.jar;C:\Users\mfnal\.m2\repository\com\google\guava\failureaccess\1.0.1\failureaccess-1.0.1.jar;C:\Users\mfnal\.m2\repository\com\google\guava\listenablefuture\9999.0-empty-to-avoid-conflict-with-guava\listenablefuture-9999.0-empty-to-avoid-conflict-with-guava.jar;C:\Users\mfnal\.m2\repository\com\google\code\findbugs\jsr305\3.0.2\jsr305-3.0.2.jar;C:\Users\mfnal\.m2\repository\org\checkerframework\checker-qual\3.12.0\checker-qual-3.12.0.jar;C:\Users\mfnal\.m2\repository\com\google\errorprone\error_prone_annotations\2.7.1\error_prone_annotations-2.7.1.jar;C:\Users\mfnal\.m2\repository\com\google\j2objc\j2objc-annotations\1.3\j2objc-annotations-1.3.jar;C:\Users\mfnal\.m2\repository\net\sf\jopt-simple\jopt-simple\5.0.4\jopt-simple-5.0.4.jar;C:\Users\mfnal\.m2\repository\org\eclipse\jgit\org.eclipse.jgit\5.13.0.202109080827-r\org.eclipse.jgit-5.13.0.202109080827-r.jar;C:\Users\mfnal\.m2\repository\com\googlecode\javaewah\JavaEWAH\1.1.12\JavaEWAH-1.1.12.jar;C:\Users\mfnal\.m2\repository\org\slf4j\slf4j-api\1.7.30\slf4j-api-1.7.30.jar;C:\Users\mfnal\.m2\repository\org\slf4j\slf4j-jdk14\1.7.30\slf4j-jdk14-1.7.30.jar;C:\Users\mfnal\.m2\repository\commons-io\commons-io\2.11.0\commons-io-2.11.0.jar;C:\Users\mfnal\.m2\repository\com\google\code\gson\gson\2.8.9\gson-2.8.9.jar;C:\Users\mfnal\.m2\repository\com\formdev\flatlaf\3.1.1\flatlaf-3.1.1.jar;C:\Users\mfnal\.m2\repository\com\jeff-media\javafinder\1.4\javafinder-1.4.jar org.spigotmc.builder.Bootstrap --rev latest --output-dir C:\Users\mfnal\IdeaProjects\buildtools3\. --final-name spigot-1.20.1.jar 

If so, press the compile button already!

uuuh i don't know if this looks correct lmao

[wind patio]

better start knowing

[brittle leaf]

yeah they did, 1.8 is when they switched to buildtools, probably due to the dmca stuff

[tardy dagger]

yeah and unfortunately the buildtools wiki article is a huge mess

90% of people have no clue how to use buildtools lol

hopefully they'll merge the gui

[long dagger]

I am using bcrypt and Next.js for my website. When the user creates an account, their desired password is hashed client side, then sent to the server, and rehashed with a pepper (the hash, plus a secret string, hashed), which is then stored in my db. Then to check the password, I then repeat the same process, and check to see if the passwords match. But, I noticed that when I hash a password it gives a different result each time even if the input is the same. Why?

I just found bcrypt.hashpw(), is that the better method?

[tardy dagger]

is there a reason why you hash it client side? I don't remember this to be normal in the first place since obviously you'd be using https anyway

[long dagger]

In my mind sending an unencrypted password over your internet doesnt seem like the best idea, even with https.

[drifting aspen]

You definitely shouldn't hash the password client side

[tardy dagger]

but it's not unencrypted if sent over https

[long dagger]

true, I forget https encrypts everything on its own

[tardy dagger]

the only thing that is not encrypted is the actual domain name IIRC

[drifting aspen]

Yup

The path itself is encrypted

[half harness]

speaking of https and encryption, what actually encrypts it?
Is it the browser? or the OS?

I never really thought of that

and can't find anything online, idk if I'm putting wrong search terms 🥲

[half harness]

Or like in the case of programming, is it the programming language or the OS (again)? 🤔

actually its prob not the OS

seems too high-level for something that the OS would do

[prisma wave]

im pretty sure it's the OS

usually by bundling OpenSSL as a library

which then the languages call when they want to establish a connection

so really the answer is a mix of both

[crude cloud]

i fucking hate certificates

in the end, it's nothing but silly encryption

not something that specifically requires special care from the kernel

[half harness]

btw hashing client side removes the point of hashing

[long dagger]

but it also hashes server side

[half harness]

ohhh okay

nvm then

[long dagger]

I realized how it is useless, and I removed it

[half harness]

I thought you were hashing only client side

[long dagger]

nah, I aint that stupid lol

I was looking through how OAuth 2.0 works, and I noticed that Refresh and Access tokens are used. I was curious how this all works. From what I understand, when the user logs in they get an access token, which is used to get a refresh token. the access token (which requires a log in to get) expires in day/weeks/months, where as the refresh token expires in hours/days. But, if the client knows the access token, what is the point in the refresh token? I just dont understand how that all works

[agile galleon]

You usually only hash on the client

[prisma wave]

?

[long dagger]

wdym

[agile galleon]

Idk what you were talking about

[half harness]

hashing on the client won't give any protection

because for ex if the database gets hacked, the attacker can just use that hashed password to log in (and skipping the hashing part)

[agile galleon]

Oh holdon

I think you only hash on the server

Yeah that makes more sense bruh

[wind patio]

manz really thought he cooked by hashing clientside

[distant sun]

https://www.servicenow.com/community/developer-forum/difference-between-refresh-token-and-access-token-used-in-oauth2/m-p/2060971

[long dagger]

I understand what they are, just not how they work

[cinder flare]

The point is that the access token expires really quickly (generally 30 minutes or less), and you use a refresh token to get a new one if you ever need that info again

And that anyone can use an access token if it gets leaked or something, but to use a refresh token, you need a known secret

so if your access token leaks or something, it's not that big of a deal because it'll be gone within 30 min, and they can't get another one even if they also steal your refresh token, since they don't have the server's known secret

[long dagger]

But how can the client know the known secret without exposing it

[long dagger]

Then why do we need the access token if they can't steal the refresh token? And if we know the refresh, what's the point of the access?

I am new to authentication and cryptography, sorry if these are stupid questions

[wind patio]

Google it

Access token is, well, for access, short lived
Refresh token is for refreshing the access token, not used for access, its stored on the server, so if the client access token is compromised, the, say, hacker, will have a limited use/time of the access token and wont be able to refresh it

[cinder flare]

You don't have refresh tokens in an untrusted setting generally, like in React or something. The server that is doing the logging in generally stores the refresh token securely, and only dishes out short lived access tokens for when stuff is needed. That way it limits the harm of a leaked access token.

[wind patio]

@wintry plinth hey, is there an easy way to authenticate the user without his password?
use case I have right now is the user links his discord account with his account (the discord user id is stored along with the original login credentials), if the account is linked, he can login without passing his password, only by discord oauth

is using Auth::loginUsingId correct?

[wintry plinth]

Auth::login($userModel)

[wind patio]

is loginUsingId bad?

[wintry plinth]

ive never used it personally

I just know typically Auth::login($userModel) is

[wind patio]

$userModel is basically the entry of the database, with the credentials?

[prisma wave]

"the blockchain" lol which one

[inner umbra]

bitcoin

[inner umbra]

Pretty sure my issue is the time and bits. I could be wrong though

[agile galleon]

I feel you

[inner umbra]

?

I've been modifying a miner script I found but I want to know how to properly calculate the hashes so I can edit it the way I want.

[wintry plinth]

Yeah so you’d have your $user = User::firstOrCreate() logic above, which finds the user or creates a new one

[wind patio]

🫡

[blazing copper]

Is vod and streams down

Any help available

[prisma wave]

?

[lavish notch]

Anyone able to help me find where this horizontal scroll comes from?
https://mackenziemolloy.net/fresh/

I've checked all my elements and not of them seem to spill over it seems.

[wind patio]

must be some devtool quirk

tried on edge with various phone dimensions, no horizontal scroll

[lavish notch]

Interesting.

[ocean quartz]

overflow-x: hidden; my beloved

[lavish notch]

[agile galleon]

"Used by 1000 individuals"

[drifting aspen]

TIL that operagx apparently has a minecraft network

[lavish notch]

I wrote it ages ago and only got back to finishing it.

[agile galleon]

Maybe replace used

[lavish notch]

I am used!

[lavish notch]

It's dead.

[agile galleon]

No

Ooooo

Your fault Mackenzie:<

[lavish notch]

They hired a anarchy youtuber to promote it for some reason.

[viscid gale]

who can make me a plugin

or edit a datapack msg me

[agile galleon]

#1135819519303098429

Read the rules

[agile galleon]

No oooo

[orchid crescent]

/jobs and /jobs browse doesn't open gui but everyother jobs command works for toosie config how do I fix it ?

[brittle leaf]

#general-plugins #minecraft

[cinder monolith]

I am trying to understand why in my example here do user-defined values for bot-token and guild-id are not overidden with defaults, but user-defined values for chat.enabled, or chat.channel-id are always reverted back to defaults upon restarts

config.addDefault("bot-token", "your bot token");
config.addDefault("guild-id", "your discord guild id");

ConfigurationSection chat = config.createSection("chat");
chat.addDefault("enabled", true);
chat.addDefault("channel-id", "the channel id to stream messages to");

config.options().copyDefaults(true);

[orchid axle]

how can i change the slots in shopguiplus in the categories not in the main menü

[brittle leaf]

#minecraft #general-plugins

[quaint isle]

My plugin jar got rejected by curseforge a month ago, because it was using HikariCP which apparently is partly obfuscated (which is against their TOS).
Now suddenly I'm getting an email that my jar was submitted again and got approved.

Didn't know they automatically re-review jars. Very epic.

[drifting aspen]

since when is hikaricp obfuscated?

[prisma wave]

Tfw you obfuscate an open source library

[wind patio]

@wintry plinth hey, sorry for ping, just a bit confused with models

the class extends Model, but there's no such method as where, etc.

am I doing something wrong or I'm really supposed to use ::all()->where(...) instead?

[wintry plinth]

Always feel free to ping me, this is a normal IDE issue. You can either..

1. Use ShoutboxMessage::query() which will then auto-complete further stuff.
2. Either install the Laravel Idea plugin, or use ide-helper which will setup the completions

[wind patio]

so ex.

ShoutboxMessage::query()->create([
    'bla' => 1,
    'blah' => 'abc',
])->get();
```?

[cinder flare]

would recommend Laravel Idea / ide-helper

you can just have it autogenerate stuff and it works perfectly

[wind patio]

lombok vibes

[cinder flare]

huh lol?

lombok does bytecode manipulation

[wind patio]

yeah ik ik

[cinder flare]

ide-helper just does the same thing eloquent does to analyze what your current model and fields are and adds the type completions to your ide

[wintry plinth]

Does ::create not complete correctly? I’d honestly recommend ide-helper or Laravel Idea (this is what I use) as it’ll generate completions for everything

[wind patio]

💀

though Laravel Query?

also I've just installed helper

figuring things out lol

[wintry plinth]

It’s only like £26 a year, or free with GitHub student

I’d recommend Laravel idea over ide helper, but ide helper is an option

[drifting aspen]

I'd choose a different framework

[prisma wave]

real

[cinder flare]

laravel idea just uses ide-helper under the surface and does a bunch of IJ-specific intellisense stuff

you nowhere near need it or anything lol, it's worked on by the people who make laravel, not JetBrains themselves or anything

[ornate lodge]

can someone help me with understanding the plugin superiorskyblock2 dms please

just need help with the border size upgrades

[drifting aspen]

I mean

if a framework requires a paid plugin to function

well

oof

[wind patio]

it doesn't require it to function

[drifting aspen]

*it requires it so you can develop propely

[wind patio]

Depends what you call properly

[wind patio]

.

[cinder flare]

it doesn't lol

it just makes it more convenient

and not even really that much

[ornate lodge]

does superiorskyblock2 not support hex colors?

[wintry plinth]

Preference, I use it a lot for clicking between route() things in vue and react and such like that

[cinder flare]

well yeah it's pretty nice and does some nice stuff, hence the price, but it's nowhere near necessary to do Laravel, as kyngs was implying

[wintry plinth]

It’s an “enhancement” for sure but I’d probably say it’s a “must have” and £26 a year is nothing for the value added

[crude cloud]

amateur

https://github.com/manifold-systems/manifold

this is very

[prisma wave]

That “structural typing” looks very very very very very error-prone

[crude cloud]

you look very very very very very error-prone

[prisma wave]

No I don’t 😦

☹️😖🥹😔😢

[ornate lodge]

https://paste.helpch.at/ugugakukoz.bashim about to break my head can someone help me and tell me why when i reload the config this doesnt work it just shows me the default config
plugin: superiorskyblock2

@eager fern srry for the ping but im about to break my head

i just need help

with this

[slate elk]

JavaFX or JFrame?

for a GUI

[potent nest]

(it's called swing)

but depends on you, JavaFX tends to be more modern, but it's not included in modern JDKs

[wind patio]

more modern but not in modern jdks

real

[drifting aspen]

I never managed to shade it properly 💀

[cerulean ibex]

has anyone here tried compose multiplatform on desktop or flutter on desktop

[prisma wave]

no

[slate elk]

isnt Swing is JFrame and etc?

because at the moment i stick to JFrames

and etc

but its super ugly and not very user friendly tbf

[drifting aspen]

You can set the theme of the swing components

To make it less ugly

[potent nest]

IntelliJ uses swing too

[drifting aspen]

IntelliJ is also 20+ years old

[quaint isle]

@drifting aspen @prisma wave I didn't obfuscate anything but my plugin got rejected because some HikariCP class was - allegedly - obfuscated.

[prisma wave]

[inland bay]

Aujourd'hui j'envoi ce message car je je cherche des personnes qui aurait besoin d'un Développeur Java , Discord , Web .

J'exerce le développement Java depuis 2016 , développement Discord depuis 2021 , et développement Web depuis février 2023 j'ai eu l'opportunité de beaucoup me développer et de me faire connaitre ce qu'il ma donner envie de plus apprendre dans ce Domaine et de développer pour différentes choses .

Depuis mes début j'ai eu environ 350 clients qui ont étaient très satisfait de l'attendu de leur demande que j'ai exercé .

En septembre j'entre en école d'ingénieur en cyber securité et développement java ce qui va pouvoir me permettre de bosser pour de grandes entreprises international .

Pour ce qui est du tarifs développement java a 60 euros / mois consiste a ce que pendant 1 mois je réaliserais toutes les demandes m'étant transmit et meme vous faire un serveur de A a Z . ( le prix peut être négociable dans la limite du raisonable car je pense etre le developpeur le moins cher )

Et pour ce qui est du développement discord : Je crée un bot discord qui est directement relié au serveur minecraft ou on peut mettre un salon console pour avoir la console de l'hebergeur directement sur discord , salon chat minecraft on l'on pourra communiqué avec les joueurs ig directement sur discord , salon logs on l'on verra toutes les logs ig ext et des options a rajouté sur demandes . Pour seulement 25 euros

Merci d'avoir pris le temps d'examiné ma candidature et j'espère qu'elle vous satisfera et qu'elle correspond a vos attentes .

Cordialement @inland bay

[potent nest]

Bonjour

[prisma wave]

#1135819518111907900 #1135819519303098429 @inland bay

oh wait no

#1135819515817623763 *

[pastel imp]

Si tu veux des clients, parle anglais et le channel c'est #1135819515817623763 ^^

my french is a bit rusty

but well

[crude cloud]

oui oui baguette

[distant sun]

Croissant

[inland bay]

ok

[distant sun]

Are there any new libraries for creating multi platform applications such as jetbrains compose, BUT for java? I have to make a desktop app as my degree project and I would like to use compose, but I can't because it has to be made in java.

[sly sonnet]

https://github.com/JetBrains/compose-multiplatform

[distant sun]

You have probably missed the part where I said it has to be made in java

According to some post, it uses some stuff that doesn't allow it to be used with java and even then, the code would probably be very ugly since it was made for kotlin

[onyx loom]

can u not use javafx?

[distant sun]

Perhaps, I'm just looking for some suggestions currently, ideally smth more modern xD

[wind patio]

um you could probably look into Qt

theres Qt for java QtJambi or whatever

not sure if thats what you are looking for, though Qt seems to be an alternative to JavaFX

[pastel imp]

I have been using Swing at school, with flatdark theme

[distant sun]

https://www.qt.io/download seems like it is paid?

[wind patio]

its dual licensed

havent used it personally but I think theres a free, lgpl or gpl version and a commerial, paid one

[drifting aspen]

I would rather develop in electron than in javafx

[distant sun]

Js 🤢

[half harness]

learn kotlin 👍

[pastel imp]

NO

kotlin bad

kotlin mean

kotlin illegal

kotlin inferior

kotlin awful

[agile galleon]

shut up

[half harness]

no

dont shut up

learn rust 👍

[agile galleon]

youre bad mean illegal and inferior and awful

[agile galleon]

no

[half harness]

ok learn kotlin then

👍

[agile galleon]

yes good

[half harness]

😮

see Mr. Afonso

[prisma wave]

aaaaaaaaaaa

[tardy dagger]

anyone wants to write a huge shell script with me lol

[pastel imp]

kotlin bad

[agile galleon]

why

[steel heart]

why not

[agile galleon]

because it has many features java doesnt have, a nice syntax, nice libraries etc

[crude cloud]

java has nice libraries too

i feel like comparing the library ecosystem of any two programming languages is futile in [current year]

not to mention that many, many things kotlin takes for granted are from the jdk if you ever try to do kmp you'll know hard

[agile galleon]

he was asking why not, not why so xD

[crude cloud]

i love the part where coroutines are not implemented at all in kotlin/js and it is a mere wrapper around promises

[agile galleon]

i love the part where java/js doesnt exist

[half harness]

I mean isn't promises basically coroutines in js?
*Disclaimer: never really used JS *

[crude cloud]

i would be ashamed if it did

[crude cloud]

no, not really how coroutines work, coroutines are more similar to virtual threads where you can perform "blocking" (suspending)* operations and the carrier thread (the one that performs the scheduling and where the code truly runs on) will switch to another coroutine

* not really blocking operations, on kt coroutines those will still stall the carrier thread, e.g. sleep vs the suspending variant delay

[half harness]

oh

[crude cloud]

promises are, put bluntly, a simple callback system

[half harness]

or at least the async part

[agile galleon]

dkim, kotlin lover, never used kotlin

[agile galleon]

you can use that without promises

[cerulean ibex]

virtual threads are better

no colored function problem

and theyre so simple

[crude cloud]

!!! this is by far the greatest benefit* when comparing it to something like kt coroutines

* in my opinion

and the fact it isn't kotlin exclusive either but all jvm language runtimes can so easily benefit from them

[cinder flare]

mmm jdk 21

gonna be huge honestly

so glad they got em in for an LTS release people will actually likely update to

[cerulean ibex]

i wish they couldve done a full release for unnamed patterns

[cinder flare]

oh is that the like discarding parts of pattern matching with _?

[cerulean ibex]

yea

[cinder flare]

oh is that not out yet, that's kinda sad

i figure that would be a pretty simple thing

maybe like one preview

[cerulean ibex]

its not just the pattern variables

u can basically do anything

including lambda parameters iirc

[cinder flare]

oh that's pretty cool

like you can do exceptions in catch blocks, variables in try-with-resources, huh

what a neat feature

[crude cloud]

finally intellij will stop suggesting to rename a caught exception/"unused" resource to ignored

[cerulean ibex]

or you can disable the inspection

[crude cloud]

hey ey ey, don't be clever, okay?

[distant sun]

Smh dkim

[slate elk]

Well I guess I’ll have to master swing

Or write app via .Net or what it’s not called

[half harness]

wow everyone trying to learn a gui lib now

(in this chat)

[slate elk]

Nah dkim I know how to use swing

It’s just ugly

And not very user friendly

Buttons and windows and shit

And the way you locate them

I don’t like it

[half harness]

I mean can't you style it tho?
never used swing so idk

[slate elk]

U can but it’s not simple and headache not user friendly

I remember in VS there was like an editor

Also like in android apps

[distant sun]

Ig it shows its age

[slate elk]

U just see that in real time and u don’t have to do launch to see how it will look

U locate buttons in real time

But using swing

[distant sun]

Scene Builder probably, you can get it as an external app too

[slate elk]

U have to read the future

[slate elk]

Dunno how it’s called didn’t use for very long time

[distant sun]

Ah nvm it is for JavaFX I think

[slate elk]

But yeah

Also the android app thing

Is way more user friendly

In editing

And has more options

Idk I feel like I want to move to native from Java

What next app via OpenGL lol?

[half harness]

btw note that android moved away from XML (fun fact: JavaFX mainly uses XML as well) and so, by default, that editor no longer exists
uses Jetpack Compose now

and you can also use Jetpack Compose on desktop by using Jetbrains Compose

[quaint isle]

When watching video content through a proxy, is there a noticeable difference in performance between http and socks proxy?

[wind patio]

depends

[timber oak]

Would you guys recommend using SparkProfile or timings to check what causes lag?

[quaint isle]

....on? 🙃

[distant sun]

Spark

[timber oak]

Anyone got any tips for learning more about development in java generally? Topics to learn etc.
I'm decent I'd say, but not sure where to learn more really

[obtuse gale]

Probably take a look at development patterns and multithreading, concurrency, completablefutures etc

[civic cairn]

Ye

Spring if you want to get a job

[sullen coral]

Hey everyone, how to remove specified message from chat? Like in ChatControlRed

[pastel imp]

you can't, the way that (shitty) plugin does is by logging all messages and resending them all without that one message

don't use chatcontrolred

[elder smelt]

im wanted to make a custom modded minecraft server with curse forge most likely want some furnature mods farming then maybe a simple origins mod is this possible?

[brittle leaf]

i would say yes, tho thats more a question for #minecraft then here

[timber oak]

Whats spring used for generally?

[civic cairn]

Backends for websites

Rest apis

[orchid crescent]

I Need help, delux menu gui not showing 1.19 spigot

[prisma wave]

#general-plugins

[timber oak]

What's better performance-wise for 1.12.2 compared to 1.17? Creating a minigame event kind of thing, with bosses, and mobs etc. coming in waves
Is it worth updating the version from 1.12.2?

[agile galleon]

either use latest or the version before latest, but 1.17 doesnt bring much to the thing you want to make

so imo dont

[crude cloud]

I mean newer versions do work far better than 1.13/1.14 did, those were really bad lol

there isn't really a reliable way to benchmark Minecraft unfortunately

[agile galleon]

yeah dont use those

but if youre not updating to .19 or .20 you wont gain anything probably

[timber oak]

yeah but 1.12.2 is alright right?

[agile galleon]

pretty much yes

[crude cloud]

so is 1.20 🤔

[cinder monolith]

is there a trick to completely darken a player's screen?

blindness and darkness potion effects still have visibility on the lower half of the window

[ocean quartz]

With resource packs yes :)

[crude cloud]

so good

LOVE mcci

[agile galleon]

matts cool craft island

[crude cloud]

(i never played any minigame and i just messed around lobbies for 10 minutes grand total)

[ocean quartz]

it's a pretty big team, and I wasn't even the one that worked on this feature

[crude cloud]

definitely taking advantage of that early access thing

[ocean quartz]

You missed out on the summer event, it was actually quite fun :c

We had water guns

[crude cloud]

g*ns

[ocean quartz]

🔫

[crude cloud]

MATT

[ocean quartz]

LOL

[crude cloud]

barry you racist

[ocean quartz]

It IS adorable!

[forest pecan]

Can somebody help me with, zAuctionhouse

[cinder monolith]

sure, but to be able to blacken it while they're on the screen to accept/reject the resource pack would tell you that you do not require a resource pack to do it..

[brazen sierra]

As good as the pixelart looks it is completely unusable to me. too much stuff in your face. can't play like that.

[queen saffron]

Uhhh yes you do. You are talking about the grayscaling that occurs when a chest opens. You can't just use it without doesn't work like that

[cinder monolith]

what is it you are certain about? That you cannot effectively completely darken a player's screen without the use of a resource pack?

[queen saffron]

Yup

You could always give the player blindness and teleport them to a fully dark room but u know :>

[cinder monolith]

then i present you, https://www.spigotmc.org/attachments/2022-09-01_02-32-02-png.725384/

[queen saffron]

Oh that

If you look carefully, the player is in the void

At least I believe

[cinder monolith]

they are not. if you completely expand your window when joinign that server super wide, eventually the solid black section drops off and you can see sky/clouds off in the distance

[queen saffron]

Then it's not a natural minecraft thing.

[cinder monolith]

it has to be.

[queen saffron]

You said it yourself, if you stretch the screen it drops off

Meaning that it's not an overlay

Since those will just strech

[cinder monolith]

it has to a natural minecraft thing, otherwise it wouldnt work on this screen

[queen saffron]

Try opening a chest and then streching the screen

[jagged frigate]

You join a server then black screen happened?

[queen saffron]

It shouldn't fall off, it would be ridiculously stupid if minecraft did this for one overlay but not the other.

[jagged frigate]

What happened? open chest then his mc broken?

[cinder monolith]

it is not a check overlay. i never said it was though

no, im just trying to reverse engineer something. trying to understand how it works

nothing is broke

there are a couple hints i coudl show that might help you understand how its doing .. cant cannot send screenshot in the chat

[queen saffron]

Okay, well, we've ruled out that it's a texturepack, and it's not something normal with minecraft, that leaves blocks, and the void or similar, try joining with a texturepack that will change those things

[cinder monolith]

https://i.imgur.com/wpGH2hb.png

circled shows a cloud

clear cutoff of black ... whatever it is

and there's a clear discinction between the 2 dark colors in the drawn box

not curious to know how!? cmon

if they are teleporting players, how are they handling dead players. I tried it as a test and it all worked fine. Join, die, quit. change resource pack option back to prompt so it shows the message again.. all still works like it should

so the player is definitely in the sky, clouds move both above and below (or so it looks like)

[pastel imp]

I saw people using full black maps in itemframes to make the full black effect

since coal, etc either has texture or isn't 100% black

[forest pecan]

Somebody knows how to add HEX colors into Essentials/Messages?

i found this "§c"

Idont know how to add hex colors

[half harness]

try asking in M.O.S.S discord server

or #general-plugins but the dedicated server is prob better

[distant sun]

Ess uses &#RRGGBB, try that

Or... the ugly spigot format

[ruby dew]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-cringe-star-wars-r2d2-dies-dies-from-cringe-gif-24076745

[wind patio]

wuz the shitgot format?

[distant sun]

&x&R&R&G&G&B&B

[wind patio]

💀

[tardy dagger]

vault api sucks so hard

constantly relying on player names instead of UUIDs and not allowing to use completablefutures etc 🥲

[pastel imp]

use Treasury

[cerulean ibex]

as far as i can tell the methods that use player names are all deprecated

and what would u need completable futures for

oh the eco api

i was looking at chat

[tardy dagger]

yeah sure but I still gotta implement them

[tardy dagger]

I'm writing a permissions plugin and if offline player's perms would be requested, it'd be nice to be able to return a future instead

[drifting aspen]

Vault API goes in the path of the Bukkit API

- write a bad API and then refuse to improve it cuz backwards compatibility for 10yo unmaintained software

[forest pecan]

Hi guys, can i use colors into spigot.yml?

Ive i tried to use colors it wont start my server.

How to use colors into spigot.yml

[drifting aspen]

This is not the correct channel

[brittle leaf]

#minecraft seems more fitting for that answer, maybe #general-plugins

[forest pecan]

§ Was the answer still thanks.

[distant sun]

https://vm.tiktxk.com/ZGJGrNM9H/

[tame bane]

hey

is anyone able to help me out with cloudflare routing/domain

[tardy dagger]

maybe, what's your question?

[tame bane]

bassicaly

just setting it all up

it wont link no matter what i do

[tardy dagger]

what do you exactly mean with routing? you wanna point the domain's A/AAAA records to some server's IP I guess?

[tame bane]

yeah and tebex

i use godaddy

to cloudflare

[tardy dagger]

you registered a domain at godaddy but you want to use cloudflare for DNS?

or do you want to keep your DNS servers at godaddy and "only" want to use cloudflare's proxy mode?

[tame bane]

i just want to use cloudflare for routing and then once i switch to my dedi server i'll be able to have ddos protection

[tardy dagger]

Then I guess you want to use cloudflare for DNS and then enable their proxy mode.

In that case, in your cloudflare dashboard go to Websites -> Add new Site -> Enter the top level domain (e.g. example.org) -> choose the "Free" tier (at the bottom) -> it'll now give you two nameserver addresses, in my case "ethan.ns.cloudflare.com" and "sydney.ns.cloudflare.com" - are you at this step already?

[tame bane]

am I able to go into your DMs to show you what I have going on

[agile galleon]

Also, Cloudflare wont protect your server

[tardy dagger]

aight

[agile galleon]

just your website

[tardy dagger]

yeah the proxy mode only works for HTTP(S) unless you pay for their advanced tiers or whats it called

[agile galleon]

ye

[tardy dagger]

so if you wanna use it to protect a game server or similar, you can forget this right now 😛

[agile galleon]

^

use tcp shield

[tame bane]

can you add me back

i'll show you

[oblique heath]

it could if you pay them big moni

[distant sun]

https://vm.tiktxk.com/ZGJGSkjWF/ from impostor's syndrome to god complexe in a second 🤣

[timber oak]

How long does a paste in paste.helpch.at last?

[distant sun]

until we run out of space iirc

[timber oak]

Alright lol, any rough estimate on how long that is? Lol

[prisma wave]

in a few hours once im done pasting my 10 gb logs

[timber oak]

Perfect, thanks

[ocean quartz]

Did you upload something with sensitive information or something like that? xD

[tepid rock]

can someone checkout this #1135819519303098429 message
i want this plugin by monday

[brittle leaf]

you will have to wait for someone to respond to it, asking here wont get someone to do so faster

if you're on a time crunch then you should probably increase what you are offering to make it seem more worth it

[distant sun]

How I feel doing anything with git at work lmao https://vm.tiktxk.com/ZGJGUmsgB/

[tardy dagger]

funny thing. I wrote two parsers for my PAPI addon, one uses regex, the other parses the string manually. I've did a few benchmarks with JMH and on Windows, the regex benchmark is much faster, but on macOS, it's the other way around

[agile galleon]

okayyyy

[wind patio]

mac 🥴

[agile galleon]

just check os

and then use the appropriate method

[potent nest]

or write code that's always faster

[tardy dagger]

🥲

[sweet cipher]

Or just hardcode every possible combination of Strings

[agile galleon]

2gb expansion

[tardy dagger]

great idea

[sweet cipher]

I am known for my great ideas

[tardy dagger]

sadge, my previous benchmark was garbage

Benchmark                            Mode  Cnt       Score      Error  Units
BenchmarkLoader.benchmarkNaiveLong   avgt   25  134425,654 ± 1882,153  ns/op
BenchmarkLoader.benchmarkNaiveShort  avgt   25    3968,929 ±   50,473  ns/op
BenchmarkLoader.benchmarkRegexLong   avgt   25  161216,016 ± 3800,832  ns/op
BenchmarkLoader.benchmarkRegexShort  avgt   25   14564,255 ±  113,956  ns/op

regex isn't faster, after all

that means I did not waste 2 hours today

[agile galleon]

Naive?

Regex will always be slower

[tardy dagger]

it's a naive implementation because I wrote it

lol

https://github.com/mfnalex/PAPI-Replace/blob/master/core/src/main/java/com/jeff_media/papi_replace_expansion/NaiveParser.java

[feral notch]

Can someone please help me

[tardy dagger]

Maybe you should ask a question

Otherwise, nooone can help you

[slate elk]

hey guys

wondering any IOS users here?

so i finished my android app

and now i also need to work on iOS ver

how to install an APP to an IOS

without using any fishy 3rd party services

[tardy dagger]

you need to create an apple developer profile and then you can send that up X devices and then they can download your app

if you don't own any apple device, the easiest way is probably to rent a cloud mac mini and use XCode's iPhone emulator

well what language is your app even written in?

[slate elk]

i will use swift

on android its java

hmm i got about 3 iphones at home o hope they dont charge for an apple devoloper profile u know Apple is like EA haha

[tardy dagger]

nah the dev profile doesn't cost anything, but I only know how it works from within XCode (which ofc only runs on mac)

you can create them in the developer portal here: https://developer.apple.com/account/ios/certificate/

[wind patio]

developing ios apps is a fuckin nightmare if you don't own a mac

so fucking annoying that they need to put a paywall behind that

[slate elk]

so i have to get a macOS

to have an interface

instead of this

C:\Users\zx>swift -help
OVERVIEW: Swift compiler

USAGE: swift

OPTIONS:
-access-notes-path <value>
Specify YAML file to override attributes on Swift declarations in this module
-allowable-client <vers>
Module names that are allowed to import this module
-assert-config <value> Specify the assert_configuration replacement. Possible values are Debug, Release, Unchecked, DisableReplacement.
-clang-target <value> Separately set the target we should use for internal Clang instance
-color-diagnostics Print diagnostics in color
-continue-building-after-errors
Continue building, even after errors are encountered
-coverage-prefix-map <prefix=replacement>
Remap source paths in coverage info
-debug-info-format=<value>...

because i was trying to find out via commands on how to even launch it

me who about to check second hand lapttops rn

hell on earth

[wind patio]

if you'd develop with react native

you could use an app caled Expo Go

[slate elk]

imma check itt out

eh i hate apple so much

good that Eu law gonna force them to move to type-C

which is faster then apple charger

and transfers data faster and everything

[wind patio]

you basically setup an expo project and have expo go installed on your ios device, you run a server which your expo go app connects to and renders the layout

[slate elk]

probably apple face 🐻‍❄️

[slate elk]

ill checkit out thanks aloot!!!!

❤️

[tardy dagger]

yeah on iphones it's annoying. macs on the other hand are using USB-C exclusively for like 6 years and people are complaining about that too lol

[wind patio]

https://docs.expo.dev/get-started/expo-go/
https://docs.expo.dev/get-started/create-a-project/

[tardy dagger]

"uuuh I can't use my 20 year old usb stick"

[slate elk]

its sort of marketing thing... like german cars use unique bolts so people without the right tools wont be able to maintain their german car and ofc who is the only seller the car manufactors for those cars

[slate elk]

it looks OP

cross platform?

did i get it right?

[wind patio]

well it works on android devices too

[tardy dagger]

Huh idk i got a mercedes and an opel/vauxhsll and they use both use normal bolts

[wind patio]

Expo Go is a free, open-source client for testing React Native apps on Android and iOS devices without building anything locally. It allows you to open up apps served through Expo CLI and run your projects faster when developing them.

[tardy dagger]

But they dont use react, do they?

[cinder flare]

it is so fucking good

unironically

React itself is very solid and a nicely transferable paradigm, and Expo is just so convenient

you just install the app, and can see any hot-reloading update of any of your apps

[potent nest]

what

[slate elk]

type c transfers data faster then the apple thing

[potent nest]

that's not up to type c

usb 3 is faster than usb 2, but that's it

and apple will likely only provide usb 2 cables for free, so you have to pay if you want usb 3

[slate elk]

not any longer soon they gonna have to stick to type-c cabels in europe ;p

[cinder flare]

you can have usb-c cables in any speed lol

you can have a usb 1 usb-c cable

that can only transfer at like 5Mbps

[potent nest]

^

[slate elk]

ehhh my bad idk i have read it some where like reasons why they gonna force it to happen and pros and cons

[cinder flare]

the distinction is that usb-c is only a form-factor

[quaint isle]

usb is a confusing mess

[cinder flare]

they are going to force it, but there's no guarantee it'll be faster or anything

[slate elk]

at least we not gonna depend on the expensive cabels anymore

[cinder flare]

oh i mean you probably are

they are most likely going to make Apple-approved usb-c cables that have high speed and limit anything else to really slow speeds

[tardy dagger]

yes that's what I read too

the whole "usb-c law" is a bit stupid anyway

[oblique heath]

didnt they even already do that lmao

[slate elk]

no.

2024 or something not sure

[quaint isle]

they cant do that, they got warned :^)
https://www.macrumors.com/2023/05/04/eu-warns-apple-about-limiting-usb-c-iphone-cables/

[cinder flare]

anyways yeah, React Native is honestly amazing

[tardy dagger]

limiting speed on non-apple cables? yes definitely, backing up my iphone takes ages with any cable I have except the original ones

[slate elk]

mfnalex dunno my car charger charges fine not fast as the orginal one

[cinder flare]

cost of doing business

[slate elk]

but i dont use my cellphone so often that i have to charge it haha

[tardy dagger]

oh idk I was only talking about data transfer, not charging

[oblique heath]

yeah something something made for iphone chip inside their cables that makes them not crippled

i believe

[tardy dagger]

I wish USB-C would finally get established in normal computers/laptops

somehow it's still kinda rare / only available on expensive ones

[quaint isle]

except for budget ones, they pretty much all come with usb c nowadays, dont they?

[oblique heath]

isn't it already pretty much the standard for thin form factor laptops

[slate elk]

i have it never used it tho

on my laptop

[tardy dagger]

is that so? I don't know, I have been using macbooks only since 10 years or sth. But my boyfriend got a normal acer without usb-c, my neighbour also got some "pretty average" laptop and that also doesn't have usb-c. and I know nobody with a tower pc that has usb-C

[cinder flare]

need me a mobo with 8 usb-c slots

would be huge

[oblique heath]

for tower pc (cases) yeah very few have usb c

[tardy dagger]

my tower pc only has one usb-c and it's at the backside which is basically inaccessible lol

[slate elk]

those r probably old

[oblique heath]

but for 13" laptops being charged by usb c is very common now

[cinder flare]

yeah i have one front-panel usb-c and zero mobo ones

[tardy dagger]

if EU makes a law about devices requiring usb-C, i think they should at least make this apply to every device that normally uses usb

[oblique heath]

nah

[slate elk]

nah wont happen

apple had a monopol

i think its the real reason why they did it

not because they care about the enviorment or something

[cinder flare]

a monopoly on what? lol

[oblique heath]

apple had the opposite of a monopoly

[quaint isle]

except for gaming laptops that draw lots of power, I think most consumer devices do usb c these days if you pay 500 bucks or more.
Business notebooks are pretty much 100% usb c

[cinder flare]

there's like at least three relevant Android companies

[oblique heath]

apple was splitting the phone charging cables bubble into two distinct connectors, that's the only reason they were forced to conform to one standard

doesn't do anything about a monopoly

[slate elk]

Perhaps Apple could agree to an outside standards body that certifies cables...

[oblique heath]

that's just as bad for apple as switching to usb c

apple only cares because they could charge big money to allow companies to use lightning

[cinder flare]

i mean, the weird part is that everything else they produce is already fully usb-c lol

the lightning royalties aren't even that big tbh

[oblique heath]

🤷‍♂️

[tardy dagger]

yep lol, it's only iphones and airpods that use lightning lol

no clue about their watches

my watches don't have any charging port ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cinder flare]

the magnetic charger plugs into the brick with usb-c lol

so, if that counts

[tardy dagger]

oh the funny thing is that macbooks also have the magsafe port, but can also be charged with each of the usb-c ports

[cinder flare]

depends on the macbook

my 2020 m1 air only has two usb-c ports, no magsafe

they got rid of it for a few years

[tardy dagger]

i got m2 max from 2023 and it has 4 usb-c plus magsafe, and all of them can be used to charge

[cinder flare]

p cool honestly

[tardy dagger]

yeah it's quite nice because sometimes I just forget the charger but can still use any normal usb-c thingy then. and at home, magsafe is great as you can't trip over it

[cinder flare]

yeah magsafe is an amazing charging cable thing, so weird that htey got rid of it for a few years lol

[tardy dagger]

i didnt know they made an air version with m1

[cinder flare]

ofc

it doesn't even have a fan

which i honestly love

[tardy dagger]

nice! if I'd be still going to university I probably would have gotten an air too, but now I mostly use it at home so I got the 16 inch one lol

[cinder flare]

yeah, only one more year for me

soon i'll be free 😌

[tardy dagger]

with university, or what?

[cinder flare]

yup

[tardy dagger]

what did you study/are you studying?

[cinder flare]

computer science!

[tardy dagger]

ah yeah nice, probably like 90% here lol. I also should have went for CS instead

[cinder flare]

oh? what did you end up doing

[tardy dagger]

law, with focus on german tax law 💀

[oblique heath]

information systems 👻

[cinder flare]

oh man, a certified lawyer in our presence!

[tardy dagger]

yeah but only for german law 😄

anyway, I should leave in a few minutes, got a doctor's appointment in 30 minutes D:

[cinder flare]

good luck!

or, like, hope it goes well lol

[tardy dagger]

Thanks, have a nice day everyone

[tardy dagger]

gradle users who write their scripts in groovy typically code in java, while gradle users who code in kotlin typically also write their build scripts in kotlin, is that right?

[prisma wave]

i think that’s a big overgeneralisation

I use kotlin dsl for everything

[tardy dagger]

yeah probably. it's just, I wanna create a repo for new gradle users that has snippets / buildSrc scripts for commonly asked tasks, e.g. "how to copy a jar", "how to create a shaded jar" etc bla bla.
And ofc I wanna do that for both kotlin and groovy. And obviously I wouldn't have a java plugin in the kotlin build.gradle and vice versa

[prisma wave]

And obviously I wouldn't have a java plugin in the kotlin build.gradle and vice versa

Why not?

Although if you’re doing something like that it might be wise to only do java. Saves a lot of work & potential duplication, avoids confusion, and anyone that knows kotlin should be able to read java too

[tardy dagger]

yeah that's true on the other hand

[tardy dagger]

hmmm is it normal that I have to import literally anything inside kotlin buildSrc scripts while I don't need that at all in the main build.gradle.kts?

and for compileOnly, I only get this weird accessor as import, that can't possibly be correct?
buildSrc/src/main/kotlin/common.gradle.kotlin.spigot-api-dependency.gradle.kts

import gradle.kotlin.dsl.accessors._7758f57c6dd35933dbd9dc8c103ba8e9.compileOnly
import org.gradle.kotlin.dsl.maven
import org.gradle.kotlin.dsl.repositories
import org.gradle.kotlin.dsl.dependencies

plugins {
    id("common.gradle.kotlin.java-conventions")
}

repositories {
    maven("https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/") {
        content {
            includeGroup("org.bukkit")
            includeGroup("org.spigotmc")
        }
    }
    maven("https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots") {
        content {
            includeGroup("net.md-5")
        }
    }
}

dependencies {
    compileOnly("org.spigotmc:spigot-api:1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT")
}

[ocean quartz]

Kotlin DSL is just slowly becoming the preferred version
Even on the Gradle slack they are constantly suggesting it over Groovy
It also has way better support on Intellij than Groovy does
There was also a feature which I don't remember anymore that only worked on Kotlin DSL

[tardy dagger]

I'm still wondering whether I need this weird accessor import to be able to specify a compileOnly in a buildSrc script - is that supposed to be like this?

[drifting aspen]

I doubt so

Just need to include the java plugin

[tardy dagger]

without it, I get the following error: Unresolved reference: compileOnly

[drifting aspen]

Do you have the java plugin?

[tardy dagger]

I'm including it through the java-conventions thing in the plugins { }

here's my java conventions thing:
buildSrc/src/main/kotlin/common.gradle.kotlin.java-conventions.gradle.kts

import org.gradle.kotlin.dsl.java
import org.gradle.kotlin.dsl.repositories

group = "com.jeff-media"
version = "1.0-SNAPSHOT"


plugins {
    java
}

repositories {
    mavenCentral()
}

[drifting aspen]

It's weird

I don't have the imports in my java conventions

How did you create the Gradle files?

I suggest using gradle init

[ocean quartz]

I don't normally use buildSrc
But I'm assuming it works similarly to build logic, it's just Intellij adding it
What I normally do is delete the import and refresh Gradle so it uses the right one
Sometimes you need to even close and reopen it lol

[drifting aspen]

Weird

I never had issues with it

[ocean quartz]

It could be caused by the "import on the fly" setting IJ has

https://github.com/TriumphTeam/triumph-cmds/blob/master/build-logic/src/main/kotlin/cmds.base-conventions.gradle.kts
Yeah I don't have any of those imports

[drifting aspen]

It's kinda sus

@tardy dagger how did you create those files?

Manually?

[tardy dagger]

yes

if I delete the import, I get an error message

e: file:///C:/Users/mfnal/IdeaProjects/Common-Gradle-Questions/common-gradle-kotlin/buildSrc/src/main/kotlin/common.gradle.kotlin.spigot-api-dependency.gradle.kts:20:5 Unresolved reference: compileOnly

[ocean quartz]

For people that want to learn Gradle more I highly recommend this playlist
It's made by one of the people from Gradle
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWQK2ZdV4Yl2k2OmC_gsjDpdIBTN0qqkE

[crude cloud]

true

I never ended up watching that, lol

[ocean quartz]

I watched all the way to 14 then just a few of the other ones
They become very situational after that

[distant sun]

Matt the gradle god

[drifting aspen]

That's probably not ideal

Use the gradle init command

Or create the Gradle project using IJ

[ocean quartz]

He's talking about convention plugin files, gradle init doesn't generate those, you have to manually make them

[drifting aspen]

Well it did generate those when I used it to migrate from maven to Gradle

Probably doesn't create them on it's own

[ocean quartz]

It generated .. convention plugins when converting from maven?

[hexed tartan]

%checkitem_amt:7,mat:paper......% don't work
all materials work but not Paper why ?

[ocean quartz]

Or are you talking about general build script? Aka build.gradle.kts?

[drifting aspen]

I was as surprised as you

Find the allesiodp Libby repo

Clone it

And use gradle init to migrate from maven

[ocean quartz]

Huh it does generate a basic one, interesting, well pretty cool they are keeping the generation tool very up to date at Gradle
But anyways, it's fine to make the files manually, IJ has some issues with them sometimes but most of the times it works fine

[drifting aspen]

I was very confused when I saw it because I never knew something like convention plugins existed

I just declared everything in the subprojects {} part of the parent build.gradle

[tardy dagger]

That makes no difference, it always requires this weird import

[tardy dagger]

It does, if you choose application

At least on 8.2

8.3*

[ocean quartz]

Right, if you keep reading you'll realize that I noticed it does now lok

[drifting aspen]

weird

[tardy dagger]

I'm pretty tired of kotlin dsl ugh. IntelliJ also keeps showing me an error at the top "Failed to load script definitions by org.jetbrains.kotlin.idea.gradleJava.scripting.GradleScriptDefinitionsContributor"

currently waiting for rm -rf ~/.gradle/caches to finish... it has half a million files there

it's not even working properly for a totally empty settings.gradle.kts file - something's fucked with kotlin dsl somehow? https://prnt.sc/SCjdDcKwQx5h

everything works when using groovy

[drifting aspen]

Honestly I have no idea what's wrong with your setup

[crude cloud]

i blame intellij

[tardy dagger]

me neither lol

I'll try again on mac later

[crude cloud]

I mean that is definitely valid even for kotlin dsl, something is very wrong with your intellij, I'm certain gradle runs fine if you try to run build or whatever

[tardy dagger]

Yeah ikr? So weird

I‘ll create a new project in IJ on mac now, if it works there I‘ll reinstall gradle and/or IJ on windows

[half harness]

Did u try repair ide

It's in the file menu I think

[tardy dagger]

yes

same issue on mac https://prnt.sc/wNL7mZLi5RK8

how the hell can this not work on two different computers

but gradle itself does not complain, it's only intelliJ that complains

i'm on latest IJ utlimate 2023.2.1

[ocean quartz]

Have you tried just using kotlin-dsl?

[wind patio]

kotlin 🥱

[tardy dagger]

same thing, it already complains about the plugins { } section

[ocean quartz]

Odd

I'd say try to invalidate cache and restart on Intellij

[tardy dagger]

is anyone else using this exact IJ version? 2023.2.1 ultimate?

[tardy dagger]

I already did that on windows, then when that still didn't work, I tried on my macbook, also did validate caches there, and it's still happening lol

[ocean quartz]

I'm on the same version

[tardy dagger]

makes no sense to me because gradle build in console works fine

[ocean quartz]

It's definitely an intellij problem

[tardy dagger]

found the problem!

intellij's mcdev plugin 🥲 disabled that and now it works fine

[agile galleon]

yeah it always makes problems

[ocean quartz]

Lol

[tardy dagger]

yeah indeed

no more errors, so beautiful 🥹 https://prnt.sc/t_22rMDaQ5Ul

[sullen coral]

How to check if Color is set? Because if player doesn't have color i got error```java
@EventHandler
public void onProjectileHit(ProjectileHitEvent e) {
Entity hitEntity = e.getHitEntity();
if (!(hitEntity instanceof Player)) {
return;
}

if (e.getEntity() instanceof Arrow) {
    Arrow arrow = (Arrow) e.getEntity();
    Color color = arrow.getColor();
    int red = color.getRed();
    int green = color.getGreen();
    int blue = color.getBlue();
    String hex = String.format("#%02x%02x%02x", red, green, blue);

    switch (hex) {
        case "#7ebff1":
            Bukkit.broadcastMessage("Freeze Arrow");
            break;
        default:
            Bukkit.broadcastMessage("Normal Arrow");
    }
}

}

[tardy dagger]

by checking if it's null

also you shouldn't identify your custom arrows by their color and it's also pretty redundant to turn the color into a string to check it

[sullen coral]

Not working, i check and got same error

[prisma wave]

show how you checked

[tardy dagger]

which error?

"i got error" is not very useful

please paste the entire stacktrace

[prisma wave]

i mean

[tardy dagger]

(is there a bot command for a paste link?)

[sullen coral]

I cant paste here

[prisma wave]

it's NPE surely

?paste

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

Paste Services
When asking for help with a config/menu/code issue please use our paste bin:
(we prefer it over pastebin.com)
• HelpChat Paste - How To Use

Requested by: bristermitten • paste

[tardy dagger]

yes 100% it is

[prisma wave]

so

only so much useful information to be gained from the stacktrace

it's probably more likely that they just did the check wrongly

[tardy dagger]

probably yeah. @sullen coral how did you check if the color is null?

[sullen coral]

@EventHandler
public void onProjectileHit(ProjectileHitEvent e) {
    Entity hitEntity = e.getHitEntity();
    
    if (!(hitEntity instanceof Player))
        return;
    
    if (e.getEntity() instanceof Arrow) {
        Arrow arrow = (Arrow) e.getEntity();
        Color color = arrow.getColor();
        
        if (color != null) {
            int red = color.getRed();
            int green = color.getGreen();
            int blue = color.getBlue();
            String hex = String.format("#%02x%02x%02x", red, green, blue);
            
            switch (hex) {
                case "#7ebff1":
                    Bukkit.broadcastMessage("Freeze Arrow");
                    break;
                default:
                    Bukkit.broadcastMessage("Normal Arrow");
            }
        }
    }
}

[tardy dagger]

that is correct. so, please send the stacktrace that you get while using exactly this ^ code

[prisma wave]

hm okay

yeah that looks fine

[sullen coral]

https://paste.helpch.at/imutaxales.css

[tardy dagger]

what's line 24?

[sullen coral]

Color color = arrow.getColor();

[prisma wave]

oh

not NPE

interesting

that looks like you (or possible another plugin) has set the colour of an arrow incorrectly somehow

[tardy dagger]

huh I can't even find getColor in CraftArrow

ah it's in CraftTippedArrow it seems

show the code where you set the color

[sullen coral]

I give arrow with command and attribute "{CustomPotionEffects:[{Id:2,Amplifier:1,Duration:800},{Id:7,Amplifier:1,Duration:2147483647}],CustomPotionColor:16729934}"

All my custom arrows work, only when basic arrow which doesn't have custom color it gaves error

[prisma wave]

oh

as in, just a normal arrow? or a plain, tipped arrow

[sullen coral]

tipped arrow

[tardy dagger]

well looks ok but it isnt even the color you are comparing to

that's R 255 G 71 B 78

try to use 8306673 as color

[sullen coral]

But all my code works fine, only if i take basic arrow, not tipped arrow with custom color, it gave error

[tardy dagger]

you say that now?

[sullen coral]

With all tipped arrow its work, default tipped arrow shows "Bukkit.broadcastMessage("Normal Arrow");"

[prisma wave]

hang on what

[tardy dagger]

i don't get it

[prisma wave]

you said it gives the error

[tardy dagger]

also the hex color you are comparing to would be this arrow: /give @p tipped_arrow{CustomPotionColor:8306673,display:{Name:'[{"text":"Tipped Arrow"}]'}} 1

[sullen coral]

Only when its default arrow, not tipped arrow

[tardy dagger]

totally different CustomPotionColor

[tardy dagger]

with default arrow, do you actually mean a default arrow, or an arrow you gave yourself that also has the CustomPotionColor set?

why do you even need to check the arrow's color? wouldn't it be much smarter to identify it using metadata or through the PersistentDataContainer?

you're on 1.16, you can use both PDC and metadata, no need to do any dirty hacks like using exactly one specific color to identify it

I'll try your code myself now

your code works fine using normal arrows and the colored arrow from the give command I sent (which is also correctly detected as your freeze arrow)

TL;DR I don't get any errors with your code, only issue I get is that you're using the wrong color

show the whole /give command that you used, pls

[sullen coral]

Thank you, I fixed it. I was checking the arrow's material, and the issue was also with the attribute

[manic vector]

Yo guys

Any idea what could cause this error?

[compact perch]

Here's a Barry Tip salomonpicos:

Use https://paste.helpch.at/ for errors, logs and configs. So we don't spam the discord.

We did it this time for you,

https://paste.helpch.at/evarabikef

Barry Tip #46 · Aug 29, 2023, 4:49 PM

[manic vector]

https://paste.helpch.at/iqaqefuwin.rb

[tardy dagger]

paste your RewardsMenu - you are creating a java awt "Menu" object, that's a GUI thingy

wrong import?

that's what happens if you blindly import java.awt.*

[manic vector]

i'm not the dev. Our dev did this but right now he's not online and we need to fix it asap

[tardy dagger]

do you have the source code?

[manic vector]

I do have it

[tardy dagger]

check RewardsMenu and replace the import for java.awt.Menu with the import for your actual own Menu class

[tardy dagger]

yeah that's the issue

remove the java.awt.* import. it then probably complains about e.g. missing imports for Color

[manic vector]

Okay removed it

Then what?

Just compile it?

[tardy dagger]

yes

if it's a maven project, mvn package

[manic vector]

gradle

[tardy dagger]

if it's gradle, usually ./gradlew build or ./gradlew shadowJar

[manic vector]

I just clicked this

Should work, shouldn't it?

nvm, just did ./gradlew build

Sorry, never coded. I really know basically nothing

We just need to fix this asap lmao

[tardy dagger]

is that IntelliJ?

[manic vector]

it is

[tardy dagger]

double click that. if however there is also a "shadow" tab go there and use "shadowJar" isntead

in the old IJ gui, the "elephant" button will be labelled "Gradle"

[tardy dagger]

open RewardsMenu, the "extends Menu" will be marked as red. hovering over it will offer you to import the class - it should offer you to import one class called Menu that's from your project, right?

NOT the java.awt.Menu one

[manic vector]

Seems fine to me

[tardy dagger]

check the imports at the top of the class

[tardy dagger]

does it again mention java.awt.* or java.awt.Menu ?

[manic vector]

no

[tardy dagger]

ok then you can try to build/shadowJar it again

[manic vector]

Same error

[tardy dagger]

is your project on github? then I can quickly check it out

[manic vector]

It's private

[tardy dagger]

if you trust me, you can add me as outside collaborator quickly

otherwise, you gotta wait until your dev is back

[manic vector]

dm me please

[tardy dagger]

lol aternos is suddenly flagging all my plugins as "malware risk"

[wintry plinth]

Always knew you was sus /s

[royal cargo]

Can I ask something here?

[crude cloud]

well you just did

[royal cargo]

I made a code I need some assistance in it may I come in dms or ping you at my forum?

[tardy dagger]

this discord is missing all the spigot commands like ?ask and ?notworking

[tardy dagger]

you could also just ask your question directly here

[sullen coral]

What is the best way to pathfind for an arrow to reach a player?

[half harness]

?help

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

» Give the helpers some details
» Ask suitable questions
» Be polite
» Wait

Source

Requested by: dkim19375 • help

[half harness]

Not as in depth but

[half harness]

Why? Ig you could simulate it but idk

[brittle leaf]

arent you supposed to have an import if you are extending something? cus i dont see any mention of Menu there

[half harness]

could also be in the same package

[sullen coral]

What is the best way to provide effects to the player when they are holding some item in their offhand?

[oblique heath]

probably to have an InventoryInteractEvent listener that checks for that item being put in/out of the offhand

an alternative is to use a runnable that checks the slot every N ticks but that seems less optimal\

[feral notch]

@half harness that time you helped me it still didn't work

[prisma wave]

wow dkim

I expected better

[oblique heath]

smh dkim caught lacking

[wind patio]

damn dkim

crazy

[tawdry zinc]

hello guys, I'm new to minecraft and plugin development, I want to develop a plugin for a server I have in mind that manages authorization factions and so on, one thing I don't understand is how mamy types of plugin apis are there? does the server making client have something to do with it? or I can develop one plugin and make it work on any server type?

[distant sun]

Bukkit (spigot, paper, whatever other forms) which is basically vanilla minecraft, fabric and forge for modded minecraft which can require the client to have certain mods intalled too. There's probably others but these are the ones I know of

Client mods and server plugins are different things if we are talking about vanilla minecraft.

[potent nest]

sponge

[distant sun]

The complexity of plugins made to work on muliple platforms depends on what the plugin does.
E.g. if you don't do anything with the world (place blocks, spawn entities, whatever) it might be easier to accomplish multi-platform support than otherwise

[tawdry zinc]

so in theory no matter whay "API" I use, it just works on any vanilla server but with some in game limitations

[distant sun]

Uh probably (?)

[tawdry zinc]

when you say place blocks etc do you mean that the ID change?

so you can't use the same ID for multiple versions?

[oblique heath]

i think gaby means that it's easier to achieve multiplatform support when you limit your interactions with the minecraft api(s) you're using

you can use any API you want but each one is limited to their platform

the main ones as mentioned are the Bukkit API, which lets you run on bukkit platforms like Spigot and Papermc

and then the Forge API for running on forge servers / forge clients and the Fabric API for running on fabric servers / fabric clients

[oblique heath]

also none of these will work on an actual 'vanilla' server

as in, the server software you download straight from mojang

[tawdry zinc]

how many server clients are out there?

[oblique heath]

wdym by server clients

like clients that players use to connect to servers?

or server softwares

[tawdry zinc]

server softwares to run servers

[oblique heath]

we already listed them

bukkit, fabric, forge are the big ones

bukkit has a bunch of different implementations under it (spigot, paper, etc) but its plugins are pretty much all cross compatible with each other

although paper expands the api a bit so if you use paper api exclusives you might not be able to backtrack back to spigot

[tawdry zinc]

what are the differences on a technical level?

[oblique heath]

fabric and forge are meant for modding the game with new blocks, mobs, mechanics and stuff

although you're obviously not required to do any of that

and for servers that use fabric or forge mods that do this ^ players are required to have a corresponding clientside mod installed so that their client knows how to display those new blocks / mobs / etc

meanwhile Bukkit plugins limit the developer to only manipulating existing minecraft features, which means that any players that join a bukkit server will never need to modify their own client

[tawdry zinc]

I see, and the differences inside the bukkit ecosystem? like between spigot and paper?

[potent nest]

paper adds useful api and also heavily improves performance

(it's based on spigot)

[wind patio]

yeh paper is pretty based

[oblique heath]

there are also a bunch of forks of paper

there are about as many as stars in the sky and i dont really think any of them make too much of a difference

[tawdry zinc]

so if I develop a paper plugin then it will correctly work on any bukkit papermc server but might have issues on spigot ones even though the player does not see the difference

but if I then want to reuse or sell the plugin it will work on paper only servers

[potent nest]

yes

[oblique heath]

yes, assuming you are using the paper exclusive api in your plugin

[tawdry zinc]

hm it makes sense thanks, I'll go read the docs and see how the api works

[half harness]

@tawdry zinc
Also wanted to explain a little bit more on what server owners usually do in the bukkit ecosystem

• bukkit: no longer exists by itself
• spigot: basically bukkit but maintained and used by many (the majority of public plugins are built on spigot for compatibility)
• paper: spigot, but modified for better performance and has an improved Api. Paper has also bypassed spigot as majority (that server owners run), so it is not uncommon to see public plugins for paper only as well (although can't be posted to spigotmc website which is where most plugins are)
  Then there's also Pufferfish (targeted for more performance) and a bunch more that base off of paper

_ _
I know you said you're a plugin developer so you don't really need that info (vs being a server owner) but imo it's nice to have more "background" knowledge about it

[humble prism]

paper has neat features aswell

builtin velocity support

[half harness]

Kinda but if you want more features then purpur for ex is a better option

[humble prism]

sure

[half harness]

Oh does spigot not work with velocity?

[humble prism]

no

[half harness]

I never tested so idk

Wow

[humble prism]

its setup in papers global configuration

[quaint isle]

we can automate sexism now

[oblique heath]

finally i understand what SaaS means

[tawdry zinc]

so it's a lot of community build stuff? I just launched successfully a test plugin to see how it works with paper, I had in mind some kind of mmorpg plugin for a server where players have factions skills, mobs quests and so on, it's for one server but eventually if I want to sell it you say it's better to go for spigot right?

[tawdry zinc]

hell yeah

[wind patio]

hell yeah

[half harness]

Wdym community build stuff?
I would try to go for paper if possible, as it's api is a lot better
I'll explain more clearly later

And classic autocorrect for the apostrophe

[half harness]

OK I can explain a bit more now

For plugins where you know that it'll be running on paper (or a fork of it), you should use paper api (ex if you're selling to me, I use paper, so you can make a paper plugin)
Only issue is public plugins - this has different opinions so I'll just say that spigotmc doesn't allow paper-only plugins, although there are some other websites for paper plugins etc

[pastel imp]

Welp, you have Hangar which is by the PaperMC Team but it currently doesn't support selling things there. So you would have Polymarket and BuiltByBit to sell your plugin

Also, may I advice going for Freemium instead of Premium? xD

[ocean quartz]

Spigot needs to swallow their pride and allow Paper only plugins

Best you can do right now is post on Modrinth, even if it's free you can make some money out of it

[pastel imp]

oh yeah ^^

Forgot their monetization system

[distant sun]

You get paid from ads displayed on your page or what?

[distant sun]

Haha like you are not talking about md_5

[pastel imp]

yes

https://blog.modrinth.com/p/creator-monetization-beta

[tardy dagger]

they do allow that

(unless for paid plugins)

[ocean quartz]

They don't, if a plugin is Paper only and it gets reported staff removes it
(Choco has confirmed this not too long ago on Paper discord)
And paid plugins aren't because they get reviewed and would be caught before being uploaded

[tardy dagger]

huh oh well then this has changed, mb

[drifting aspen]

Saying that "Ji" is a czech name is bullshit

[distant sun]

Cool stuff ngl

[inner umbra]

Could just block features that require paper. Just allow minimal functionality.

[ocean quartz]

Too much work for something that is not worth it, aka supporting spigot

[inner umbra]

Well... using paper it's already supported xD

[tawdry zinc]

hello guys, I would like to implement a roles system so to verify if the player has permission or not to run certain commands, what's the conventional way of creating the architecture? is there a way to list all roles in a json like file and pick from that or simila?

[half harness]

why not use regular bukkit permissions?

[tawdry zinc]

how do I access it? I find it difficult to understand the docs

[half harness]

assuming you're coding a plugin
you can do Player#hasPermission(String permission) (the # just means that it requires a Player)
ex ```java
if (player.hasPermission("coolplugin.admincommand")) {
player.sendMessage("You have admin :O");
}

[tawdry zinc]

where do I find the roles list?

[half harness]

are you coding this plugin?

or configuring a plugin

[tawdry zinc]

yes paper plugin

coding it

[half harness]

what do you mean roles list?

ex LuckPerms for example, you'd do ```
/lp user maskirovka permission set coolplugin.admincommand

or assign that permission to a group

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Usage for more info

If you don't have LuckPerms already, I'd recommend it

[tawdry zinc]

permissions list

or there is just admin and not admin?

my idea was to have different roles like admin, mod, builder etc

and then check if the player has permission to run different commands

[half harness]

check these messages for that

[tawdry zinc]

yeah I mean I'm trying to recreate something that already exists I know but it's more of a learning thing

[half harness]

alr
although what's your question?

[half harness]

since this is the conventional way

[tawdry zinc]

my idea was to create a class "RolesManager" with some methods inside like addrole deleterole getrole etc, now what about the data structure to store all the roles, should I go for a database or a json file with all the roles and different authority or check just by string

if "admin" can or can't etc

[remote goblet]

#development

also your plugin variable literally doesnt exist in that class

you wanna do this

[brittle leaf]

from a quick look at how luckperms does it, they assign groups to players as a permission so group.admin for example, as for storing stuff about those groups they would store in an object, so Group, and then store that in their GroupManager class as a Map<String#to(Upper/Lower)case,Group>

ofcourse you can pick whichever case you want to store it in

upper, lower, doesnt really matter as long as its one of the two

i say to change the string to either lower or upper just so that theres very little chance for group objects to be stored multiple times with an identifier that is either case

eg admin,Admin,ADMIN,AdMiN,etc would end up with an admin group that could be set in the map multiple times and getting the right string to grab the object from the map is even more difficult

[tawdry zinc]

so they use classes to store data? class group with inside all permissions

[brittle leaf]

pretty much afaik

tho you could go look at luckperms source since it is public on github

[tawdry zinc]

I'll go check it out to see if I find some more info, I was thinking about giving an authority rank like admin 2, mod 1, player 0

[brittle leaf]

https://bukkit.fandom.com/wiki/Developing_a_permissions_plugin might be helpful aswell

[tawdry zinc]

something like that

[brittle leaf]

that sounds alot like priorities that luckperms have, if your getting the group that the player already has ypu could createa list of groups, sort by the authority then when getting the players grpup just for loop over them till ypu findnthe group the player has

[tawdry zinc]

I had in mind to use a database, basically I want to make an all in light weight plugin where the player creates an account (goes to DB) then is able to have a role

now the role could be a json or something like that without having to query

and from there the db saves the data as a backup

[calm hedge]

Hi everybody, I'm kinda new in plugin development; in these day I'm trying to learn guis. I searched through the internet but I still have many questions. Is there anybody more expert that can help me figuring out that?

[inner umbra]

Just ask your questions and await a response.

[half harness]

feel free to ask in #development
also, I recommend https://mf.mattstudios.me/triumph-gui/introduction

[calm hedge]

Thanks

[pastel imp]

anyone here ever used Morphia? Is it any good?

[wind patio]

sounds like a drug name

[pastel imp]

lol

https://www.mongodb.com/languages/morphia

[sly sonnet]

yep

[tardy dagger]

Task :publishPlugins
Publishing plugin com.jeff-media.fix-javadoc-plugin version 1.0
Thank you. Your new plugin com.jeff-media.fix-javadoc-plugin has been submitted for approval by Gradle engineers. The request should be processed within the next few days, at which point you will be contacted via email.
yaay

[tardy dagger]

can one publish gradle plugins to a normal maven repository?

[prisma wave]

I don’t believe so

Pretty sure they have some custom metadata

Well

Maybe

It depends how strictly you define “normal maven repository”

File host with maven support? Yeah I guess

Full disclosure I essentially made this answer up

I don’t know

Fucking love making things up and presenting the information as fact

[half harness]

Paperweight used to I think

Wait

[half harness]

U can publish gradle plugins to maven local

Which is a maven repo

[prisma wave]

yes

the file system is a file host

theres no "first-class" maven support

[tardy dagger]

can somebody please review my gradle plugin and check whether I did any obvious mistakes or anything? Thanks! https://github.com/mfnalex/gradle-fix-javadoc-plugin