dev-general

[slate elk]

sometimes

[sly sonnet]

try doing !(drop instanceof whateverclass)

[slate elk]

i thnk the code i startd writinigis no sense

[half harness]

yep I just had to add this: ```kt
val stackWalker = StackWalker.getInstance(StackWalker.Option.RETAIN_CLASS_REFERENCE)
val frame = stackWalker.walk { stream1: Stream<StackWalker.StackFrame> ->
stream1.skip(4).findFirst().orElse(null)
}
if (frame.className.contains("logback", true)) {
original.write(b)
return@write
}

idk why I spent 4 hours on this issue 😃

[hard dagger]

ooh

was it recursing

[half harness]

yeah
no StackOverflowErrors or anything tho 🥲

[wind patio]

why are you walking on the stack

[quartz zenith]

Hi guys i'm trying to get the proc chance of a enchant i have made, but it says that enchant.getProc() is null but im a little confused on how

    public void Explosive(BlockBreakEvent e) {
        EnchantsManager enchants = new EnchantsManager();
        Player p = e.getPlayer();
        ItemStack pickaxe = p.getInventory().getItemInMainHand();
        int level = api.getNBT(pickaxe, "Explosive");
        if (level>0) {
            Enchants enchant = enchants.getEnchant("Explosive");
            if(randomDouble(0, 100) <= enchant.getProc() * level) {
                World world = e.getBlock().getWorld();
                Location location = e.getBlock().getLocation();
                world.createExplosion(location, 10f);
            }

        }
    }

Thats my block break event and this is my getProc

    public Double getProc() {
        return this.proc;
    }

    public Enchants(String enchant) {
        this.enchant = enchant;
        this.max = 0;
        this.price = 0L;
        this.proc = Double.valueOf(0.0D);
        this.exponent = Double.valueOf(0.0D);
        this.requirement = 0;
        plugin.getEnchantManager().addEnhcant(this);
    }

This is the error it says:
Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "me.simonxz.core.api.Enchants.getProc()" because "enchant" is null

[wind patio]

it's not the proc that is null

it's enchant

Enchants enchant = enchants.getEnchant("Explosive"); this is null

[quartz zenith]

I'm unsure on how to even get the proc chance of that enchant

[wind patio]

what

[potent nest]

why Double instead of double

[cinder flare]

bro needs that null state yk

[wind patio]

he wants NPE

let him cook

[quartz zenith]

i havn't got a clue on where to put the null D:

[distant sun]

After you assign this variable, before using any of its methods, you do a null check

[quartz zenith]

i still don't get it can't figure out how to do the null check

[hard dagger]

i don't think thats the issue

it shouldnt be returning null in the first place

@quartz zenith what does EnchantsManager look like?

actually nvm

it's because you're creating a new EnchantsManager in the Explosive(BlockBreakEvent) method

you should use the same one that the Enchants constructor is using

[quartz zenith]

package me.simonxz.core.api;

import java.util.HashMap;
import java.util.Map;

import me.simonxz.core.Main;
import org.bukkit.configuration.ConfigurationSection;
public class EnchantsManager {
    private static Main plugin = (Main)Main.getPlugin(Main.class);

    private Map<String, Enchants> enchants = new HashMap<>();

    public Enchants getEnchant(String string) {
        for (Enchants enchant : this.enchants.values()) {
            if (enchant.getEnchant().equals(string))
                return enchant;
        }
        return null;
    }

    public void addEnhcant(Enchants e) {
        this.enchants.put(e.getEnchant(), e);
    }

    public void loadEnchant(String enchant) {
        ConfigurationSection config = plugin.getConfig().getConfigurationSection("Enchantments.Enchantments");
        Enchants b = new Enchants(enchant);
        b.setMax(config.getInt(String.valueOf(enchant) + ".Max"));
        b.setPrice(config.getLong(String.valueOf(enchant) + ".Price"));
        b.setExponent(config.getDouble(String.valueOf(enchant) + ".Exponent"));
        b.setRequirement(config.getInt(String.valueOf(enchant) + ".Requirement"));
        b.setProc(Double.valueOf(Double.parseDouble(config.getString(String.valueOf(enchant) + ".Proc"))));
    }
}

[wind patio]

private static Main plugin = (Main)Main.getPlugin(Main.class); what am I looking at pls bleach my eyes

[hard dagger]

actually nvm

i already gave you your answer

[wind patio]

that is so poorly made I want to help this guy out buy I think it's beyond helpable

[quartz zenith]

i got it working

[wintry plinth]

C'mon guys, we've all been there once, don't be so harsh..

[wintry plinth]

Well done on getting it working so far, as some have mentioned you could replace this line of code:

private static Main plugin = (Main)Main.getPlugin(Main.class);

It's recommended against this, instead you could use dependency injection, like so..

public class EnchantsManager {
  private Main plugin;
  public EnchantsManager(Main plugin) {
    this.plugin = plugin;
  }

  // Rest of code
}

Inside of your plugins onEnable method you'd do..

public void onEnable() {
  // other code
  new EnchantsManager(this);
}

Another pointer, it's recommended to not use Main for your plugin class, instead something like EnchantsPlugin or something like that

[quiet depot]

could definitely simplify that getEnchant method

[cerulean ibex]

yeah mb

[cerulean ibex]

In the loadEnchant(String) method you can replace all the String.valueOf(enchant) + "..."s with enchant + "..." because they're both the same. If you're using IJ you should get a warning

[cerulean ibex]

and the Double.valueOf(Double.parseDouble(config.getString(...))) can be replaced with config.getDouble(...) like you did for setExponent

[slate elk]

i suggestt u to do some java home work fr dont code plugins before u are familiar with java even its beginners faults also ur code seems like it wasnt written by human

[obtuse gale]

Guys guys

[wind patio]

omg what

[obtuse gale]

Let talk about dropshipping and how to make some dollars 💰and again I’m a store owner I help people that having problems with their account or store

[wind patio]

no I dont think I will

and why is your profile picture the same as this mf @quartz zenith

[drifting aspen]

I think this is one of the new default discord avatars

[quartz zenith]

yeah defualt avatar

[wind patio]

what the fuck

bring back wumpus

[drifting aspen]

(It's way worse than the old ones IMO)

[drifting aspen]

I think Wumpus was never the default avatar

The old default avatar was just the discord logo in different colored backgrounds

[wind patio]

fuck, not the wumpus

the default logo*

[distant sun]

Clyde or smth like that 🤣

[drifting aspen]

hang on, I still have someone in my friends list with the old avatar

I would love to upload it here if I had the permission to do so :/

[drifting aspen]

Nah, clyde is the discord bot

I don't think the avatar really had a name or smth

[distant sun]

I think it had a name at some point but idk what it is

https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/992343556733800448/f7f2e9361e8a54ce6e72580ac7b967af.webp?size=80
doesn't look like an url for a default pvp

[drifting aspen]

yeah this is just dumb

[drifting aspen]

It may not look like that, but it is

https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/v8fdrd/the_new_discord_default_profile_pictures/

From the post comments: https://imgur.com/a/l5dHUVx

[distant sun]

ah I see

cool ig

a bit of offtopic but I'm watching this random TS video and I would like to say that this sum types thing is kinda cool

[wind patio]

this sum props?

[distant sun]

Sorry, I meant to say "sum types", I got it from a comment (although that's not the name in ts I think)

For those curious, these are called tagged unions or discriminated unions. The typescript docs mentions them. They are common in functional languages and also in most newer languages like Rust. They are from a category of types called "sum types". What we're used to in OOP languages are usually "product types"

[wind patio]

yeah it's pretty neat

[distant sun]

Although I prefer the OOP way xD doing the type check with a string if (response.status === "success") doesn't feel like a good structure, but I guess the status can be turned into some other type that I don't know of, like an enum.

[cinder flare]

I mean, you can literally do that in this example

he's using a sum type with string constants, so that's literally how you would use it

TS doesn't have native discriminated unions, you have to do it yourself

OH

i had it backwards

yeah TS doesn't have native instanceof checking like that, so it's kinda better to do hardcoded enum constants as the discriminator

[distant sun]

interesting thing

[cinder flare]

but yeah in Rust and most functional languages, you can just do a little pattern matching with like match (response) { is Success -> ... ; is Failure -> ...; }

[obtuse gale]

Wtf Huh

[drifting aspen]

I think it's been added in JDK 21 too

yup: https://openjdk.org/jeps/441

[cinder flare]

oh shit

that's super cool

and it's an LTS

[drifting aspen]

😎

[cinder flare]

didn't think it would drop honestly

thought they would hit me with a (Fifth Preview)

[drifting aspen]

I think virtual threads also made it into JDK 21

yup

[cinder flare]

oh my god 21 is gonna be huge bro

[drifting aspen]

I think it should drop next month

[cinder flare]

september yeah iirc

oh my god and generational zgc

guys... is java... good again?

[wind patio]

https://tenor.com/view/kinoplex-steak-allow-me-to-explain-the-guy-above-me-is-insane-talking-gif-24312956

[distant sun]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CDGwessS4gg?feature=share

[half harness]

How do I make a Closure in kotlin dsl? 🤔
Specifically for CadixDev's gradle plugin (https://github.com/CadixDev/licenser#configuration)

license {
    matching('**/ThirdPartyLibrary.java') {
        header = file('THIRDPARTY-LICENSE.txt')
    }
}

If I try it in kotlin, I get the error

None of the following functions can be called with the arguments supplied.

matching("text") {}
matching("text", {})
```none of these work

and if I try making a new Closure, then I get a NullPointerException from some internal (?) code

[cerulean ibex]

is closure some class or?

cuz all kotlin lambdas are closures

if it is a class, try doing matching('...', Closure { header = ... })

or just use spotless

[half harness]

its a groovy class

I'm trying to configure build.gradle.kts

[half harness]

that isn't working either :/

[half harness]

what's that?

[cerulean ibex]

it looks like its an abstract class so its not a sam interface so try just doing an anonymous object or whatever theyre called in kt

[cerulean ibex]

its a gradle plugin that supports a ton of formatters and also file headers

[half harness]

o

[cinder flare]

isn't that literally already in gradle kts?

[half harness]

no, it errors :(

[cinder flare]

does it error when you actually run it, or just in your IDE?

sometimes IJ messes up the gradle cache and thinks there are problems

[half harness]

IDE

[cinder flare]

try running an actual gradle command

[half harness]

gradle also errors ☹️ ```kt
matching("s") {
println("test")
}

[cinder flare]

is that in a license block?

becuase matching is most likely an extension function on the this passed in license

[half harness]

yea

[wintry plinth]

Hey folks, looking for some guidance..

I am using the sgui library within a server-side Fabric mod, currently like so..

modImplementation("eu.pb4:sgui:0.5.0")

Now, I need to shade this in, so I'd typically do..

shadow(modImplementation("eu.pb4:sgui:0.5.0"))

However I get:

e: file:<path>/fabric/build.gradle.kts:33:12: Type mismatch: inferred type is Dependency? but Any was expected

What am I doing wrong? Using Gradle 8.2.1

[half harness]

hm

aw

[e-mail]("s") {
    header.set(project.resources.text.fromFile("THIRDPARTY-LICENSE.txt"))
}
```tried this too

🥲 🥲

[cinder flare]

implementation alone

shadow already automatically includes any implementations

[wintry plinth]

  class file for net.minecraft.class_3917 not found

weirdly doesn't work oddly

That modImplementation passes the classes through (without the obfuscated names)

[cinder flare]

according to the docs, have you tried modImplementation(include("eu.pb4:sgui:0.5.0"))?

[wintry plinth]

e: file:///Users/charlie/Documents/Development/Java/Tebex/fabric/build.gradle.kts:33:23: Type mismatch: inferred type is Dependency? but Any was expected

Same silly error

Very frustrating i can't figure why 😂

[cinder flare]

!! after the include?

might be a nullability thing

[wintry plinth]

Damn got me excited as it compiled 😂 annoyingly it didn't shade it in, but also TIL about the !! thing

[cinder flare]

weird, the include should shade it

[wintry plinth]

ill try shadow

[cinder flare]

but yeah !! is a non-null assertion

[pastel imp]

can you link sgui? never heard of it

[cinder flare]

https://github.com/Patbox/sgui

[pastel imp]

ty

this for fabric only?

[wintry plinth]

Soon you'll be able to source dive tebex v2.0, hopefully beta testing soon

and yes

I use Triumph GUI for bukkit

[cinder flare]

😌

[pastel imp]

I don't use tebex sooo

[pastel imp]

W

[wintry plinth]

Can still source dive :P if you needed

[cinder flare]

honestly try modImplementation(implementation("eu.pb4:sgui:0.5.0"))

cause shadow picks up on plain implementations

[wintry plinth]

ahh really, ill try this

[pastel imp]

although triumph gui gonna get a rewrite in the following 5 years and it will be paper only

just a tiny future headsup

[wintry plinth]

thats fine

[cinder flare]

paper 😌

by then, we'll have the hard fork and we won't support spigot users!

[pastel imp]

5 to 7 business years

depends on matt

xD

[wintry plinth]

Gradle fml..

e: file:///Users/charlie/Documents/Development/Java/Tebex/fabric/build.gradle.kts:33:23: Type mismatch: inferred type is Dependency? but Any was expected

[cinder flare]

add another !!!

[pastel imp]

and yes, maybe. I will still use tebex checkout so

[wintry plinth]

good

and ty star will try

[pastel imp]

how many !! have you asked already xD

[wintry plinth]

            SimpleGui gui = new SimpleGui(ScreenHandlerType.GENERIC_9X3, player, false);
                            ^
  class file for net.minecraft.class_3917 not found

[cinder flare]

because technically it's right lol, it does expect non-null Dependencys

[wintry plinth]

RIP

[cinder flare]

hmm

what about putting them in separate lines

[pastel imp]

restart ide?

ide sometimes bugs

[cinder flare]

modImplementation("eu.pb4:sgui:0.5.0")
then
implementation("eu.pb4:sgui:0.5.0")

[pastel imp]

happened to me a bunch of times already

[cinder flare]

or possibly include

i'm not like super familiar with the fabric loom stuff

[pastel imp]

me neither

they use mixins

which in theory is cool

but too much work to learn how to use

lol

[cinder flare]

oh it's cool in practice

it's not very hard to use lol

[wintry plinth]

Same error, and ngl I realise using fabric how thankful I am with bukkit apis

like fabric ones are terrible

[cinder flare]

they're better in a lot of ways

[pastel imp]

Star, I have been here for a while now, you should've already known that I am lazy AF lol

[cinder flare]

you just aren't used to em lmao

and they have a lot more to do, with the whole remapping jars and stuff, Bukkit just loads its own custom jars for you

[pastel imp]

paper hard forking gonna feel like a dream

pair that with the rewrite of triumph guis

and cmds

and it's paradise

if the rewrite isn't there yet, I will just use vision lol

anyways time to go migrate more data from some wikis to my db for my bot

adios

[cinder flare]

lmao

[wintry plinth]

ree this is driving me crazy

[cinder flare]

hmm okay

so what about doing modImplementation and include

[half harness]

trying every combination 🥲

[wintry plinth]

Type mismatch: inferred type is Dependency? but Any was expected

If I add the !! then it doesn't shade

[cinder flare]

i'm honestly not sure if you're even supposed to use shadowjar with fabric mods

maybe the include thing just does it for you?

[wintry plinth]

Yeah its frustrating, same thing 😂

[cinder flare]

send whole build.gradle.kts

[wintry plinth]

Reverted back its..

import com.github.jengelman.gradle.plugins.shadow.tasks.ShadowJar

group = rootProject.group
version = rootProject.version

plugins {
    java
    id("com.github.johnrengelman.shadow")
    id("fabric-loom")
}

var minecraftVersion = properties["minecraft_version"] as String
var yarnMappings = properties["yarn_mappings"] as String
var loaderVersion = properties["loader_version"] as String
var fabricVersion = properties["fabric_version"] as String

java {
    toolchain.languageVersion.set(JavaLanguageVersion.of(16))
    sourceCompatibility = JavaVersion.VERSION_16
    targetCompatibility = JavaVersion.VERSION_16
}

dependencies {
    shadow(project(":sdk"))
    shadow("it.unimi.dsi:fastutil:8.5.6")
    shadow("com.github.cryptomorin:XSeries:9.3.1") {
        isTransitive = false
    }

    minecraft("com.mojang:minecraft:${minecraftVersion}")
    mappings("net.fabricmc:yarn:${yarnMappings}:v2")

    modImplementation("eu.pb4:sgui:0.5.0")
    modImplementation("net.fabricmc:fabric-loader:${loaderVersion}")
    modImplementation("net.fabricmc.fabric-api:fabric-api:${fabricVersion}")

    compileOnly("dev.dejvokep:boosted-yaml:1.3")
}


tasks.named("shadowJar", ShadowJar::class.java) {
    configurations = listOf(project.configurations.shadow.get())

    relocate("it.unimi", "io.tebex.plugin.libs.fastutil")
    relocate("okhttp3", "io.tebex.plugin.libs.okhttp3")
    relocate("okio", "io.tebex.plugin.libs.okio")
    relocate("dev.dejvokep.boostedyaml", "io.tebex.plugin.libs.boostedyaml")
    relocate("org.jetbrains.annotations", "io.tebex.plugin.libs.jetbrains")
    relocate("kotlin", "io.tebex.plugin.libs.kotlin")
    relocate("com.github.benmanes.caffeine", "io.tebex.plugin.libs.caffeine")
    relocate("eu.pb4.sgui", "io.tebex.plugin.libs.sgui")
    minimize()

    archiveFileName.set("${project.name}-${project.version}-shadow.jar")

    finalizedBy("remapJar")
}

tasks.remapJar {
    dependsOn("shadowJar")
    val shadowJar = tasks.shadowJar.get()

    inputFile.set(shadowJar.archiveFile)
    archiveFileName.set("tebex-${project.name}-${project.version}.jar")
    archiveClassifier.set(shadowJar.archiveClassifier)
    delete(shadowJar.archiveFile)
}

(Multi-module project)

[wind patio]

yall like data or what

[cinder flare]

oh wow that is a lot more than i thought it would be

uh, maybe try getting rid of minimize?

[wintry plinth]

ye sure lemme try

[cinder flare]

ooh and try shadow("eu.pb4:sgui:0.5.0")

[wintry plinth]

Beneath modImple ?

[cinder flare]

yea

[half harness]

speaking of minimize problems
how do obfuscators ensure that reflection stuff is also obfuscated correctly?

🤔

[cinder flare]

they likely don't

[wintry plinth]

So weiredly if I do..

    modImplementation("eu.pb4:sgui:0.5.0")
    shadow("eu.pb4:sgui:0.5.0")

I get:

Caused by: net.fabricmc.loader.api.LanguageAdapterException: Class io.tebex.plugin.TebexPlugin cannot be cast to net.fabricmc.api.DedicatedServerModInitializer!

I wonder if now this means the mod is having a conflict somewhere

Seems it shaded

[cinder flare]

ah, progress!

[wintry plinth]

GOT IT

    modImplementation("eu.pb4:sgui:0.5.0")
    shadow("eu.pb4:sgui:0.5.0") {
        isTransitive = false
    }

isTransitive fixed it

ty star <3 got a github donate page?

[cinder flare]

haha, no worries brother

just pass it on, next time i'm confused by something in laravel or something lmao

[wintry plinth]

😂 always a DM away you know that, happy to help

Recently persuaded someone else into Laravel too

[cinder flare]

sheesh, the adoption rate has gone up exponentially!

[wintry plinth]

Laravel users went from 1 -> 3/4

Planning to rebuild the Analyse dash this quarter, brand new Laravel app hehe

[cinder flare]

awe yeah

no more Vue >:)

[wintry plinth]

I wish I could go react, I'm sure work wouldn't approve 😂

my new personal project is laravel+react tho :D

[cinder flare]

oh? Tebex big into the Vue lifestyle?

[wintry plinth]

Yeah entire tebex is Laravel Vue

[cinder flare]

oh huh, the more you know

maybe you can rewrite that too 😌

surely good for the old job security!

[wintry plinth]

Our team has gotten so big now 😂 nearly 30 of us at tebex

There was 10 of us last year

The Analyse dash rebuild I am looking forwArd to, new APIs, etc

How you been getting on with your Laravel project Star?

[pastel imp]

If Charlie does a 1h+ crash course/intro of laravel, I might look into it xD

[cinder flare]

you ever used Django or Ruby on Rails or anything?

[wintry plinth]

Me? No

[cinder flare]

Actually just finally got started on it, setting up auth with Discord Socialite as we speak

[wintry plinth]

I loveee socialite

[cinder flare]

ah no not you, Afonso, since knowledge from those frameworks transfers really well to Laravel

[wintry plinth]

Maybe I’d build an example repo to show you :P

And ahhh that makes sense yeah

[pastel imp]

no and no 💀

[cinder flare]

class DiscordLoginController extends Controller
{
    public function redirect(): RedirectResponse
    {
        return Socialite::driver('discord')
            ->scopes(['email', 'guilds.members.read'])
            ->redirect();
    }

    public function callback(): RedirectResponse|JsonResponse
    {
        $discordUser = Socialite::driver('discord')->user();
        return response()->json($discordUser);
    }
}

look at that

Discord OAuth in like literally 15 lines

[pastel imp]

that's actually

nice...

hmm

will see

I have to finish projects lol

too many rn

but might use laravel for the dashboard of my discord bot

although, it legit has no settings so no need for that lol

hmm

gonna do a wiki type website with laravel

web version of my bot lol

[wintry plinth]

Laravel developer experience is beautiful tbh

[pastel imp]

I mean, I am used to svelte nowadays

but.... I kinda hate js lol

so might do svelte frontend and laravel backend

[cinder flare]

ah, just you wait!

[pastel imp]

now, a more important question/topic, what shall I cook for lunch? 🤔

[cinder flare]

Laravel also has this package called Inertia, which lets you get all the nice backend benefits of Laravel with a JS frontend super easily

you literally just call a render function in your views as normal, and it does everything else

so you can have a Laravel/Svelte combo app like super, super easy

[wintry plinth]

https://rappasoft.com/blog/creating-a-laravel-10-application-using-inertia-js-svelte-and-tailwind-css#:~:text=By default%2C Inertia will look,js%2FPages for svelte components.&text=Svelte components start with a,set up in step 3a. Yup ^

So sexy

Funny because I’m doing a talk on Friday showing inertia to the devs in team

[pastel imp]

I wonder how it works, like with svelte and sveltekit, you can run stuff in the backend or server, and you can just import those things and display them easily

[cinder flare]

so it wouldn't be with SvelteKit, it's just Svelte

but basically you pass props in from Laravel and then you get them in a Svelte component

and it has a bunch of stuff for like links and forms and stuff that tie it all together really nicely

https://inertiajs.com/

[pastel imp]

quite interesting

will check it later, will probably watch a crash course or smt

just to know the basics

also kinda need a rework on my php

a bit rusty lol

(even though I did php this year at school, but it was basics of basics)

[wintry plinth]

Defo think without Inertia, I'd prob not be using Laravel as a mono-repo

[distant sun]

Socialite::driver('discord') ig this is some factory pattern ///// dependency injection? (like @Inject DiscordDriver driver;)

[wintry plinth]

The talk I'm doing on Friday will be showing the team how nice it is to pass props across from Laravel backend to Inertia frontend

[cinder flare]

it's what they call a Facade

basically a static interface that does dependency injection for you, yeah

[distant sun]

cool

[cinder flare]

they have a ton of em, like Auth::attempt($username, $password) which will attempt to log in a user

[wintry plinth]

https://twitter.com/taylorotwell/status/1647011864054775808?s=20

Taylor Otwell 🪐 (@taylorotwell)

“Oh cool what’s your license plate mean?”

Well little buddy that’s a French word for “good fucking code”

Likes

815

Twitter · Apr 14, 2023, 11:00 PM

[cinder flare]

okay that's pretty funny

[wintry plinth]

hahaha

[distant sun]

ig php's structure is not as robust as java's? Like, in java you would do smth like Socialite.driver(DriverType.class) so it knows to return a DriverType

[cinder flare]

oh no it gives you type inference

it's actually surprisingly good at types and stuff

[wintry plinth]

More facades, https://twitter.com/taylorotwell/status/1641433847454916612?s=20 so beautiful

Taylor Otwell 🪐 (@taylorotwell)

If you are using Laravel's "Storage" facade to interact with JSON files. You can use the new "json" method to retrieve the file and decode the JSON. 💪

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[cinder flare]

like, leagues better than Django in Python

[distant sun]

ah cool

[pastel imp]

quite random, but a client just sent me this and I found it a bit funny

[cinder flare]

though in this case, it's actually just an interface, so it gives you a supertype

polymorphism, etc. etc.

like how you'd return a DataStorageProvider or something and then have ones for like file storage, postgres, mysql, etc.

[distant sun]

ohhhh so all drivers have scopes() and stuff, I see

[cinder flare]

yeah

[distant sun]

I thought that's smth specific to the discord one, thats why I said it is not as robust as java's, I thought it knows that the string "discord" is for DiscordDriver

makes more sense haha

[cinder flare]

yeah it's pretty nice

i like the dynamicism that it gives, without the crazy reflection and stuff of Spring

[final scroll]

I'm trying to reference one of my APIs stored locally on my pc from a maven project in eclipse. It has previously worked fine but now I just get a bunch of errors in my console saying: /C:/Users/<Name>/eclipse-workspace/Vip5/src/main/java/com/sniskus/vip/core/CommandManager.java:[15,30] package com.sniskus.score.util does not exist when I compile it. Why does this happen, it works fine in while editing the code in the IDE? I don't remember changing anything but haven't touched eclipse for a few months.

[long dagger]

Whére did $orders come from? He defined the variable as $order

[wintry plinth]

typo prob, $order it would be

[long dagger]

Yeah

[wintry plinth]

Beautiful syntax tho

[agile galleon]

Well Laravel seems pretty cool

Although I'm not quite fond of learning a new language xd

[wintry plinth]

Those new to Laravel who want to experience the magic, check out https://bootcamp.laravel.com/introduction :)

Walks you through Laravel and building an example app, free of course

[agile galleon]

Should I use the templating engine or Vue/React?

[wintry plinth]

It's all preference, I'd personally say go with Vue as a beginner, as you can use Vue for more things

The templating engine is very basic I find, can't really do much real-world wise

[agile galleon]

Is that still SSR?

[wintry plinth]

Feel free to @ me or mention in replies, happy to help if you're stuck. And it is when you enable it yes

It's not by default but its an option

[cinder flare]

it really depends on what you're building

if you're making a mostly static site, like for a main page or something without a ton of functionality, you can definitely get away with just blade templates

the website i had been working on for like 1.5 years now is all just Django templates

but now i've moved to a point where I could really benefit from having a discrete frontend framework, so I'm moving to Laravel/React with SSR

but like, if you're making an admin panel or something, honestly it might just be better to not SSR

[half harness]

Does anyone have a Java websocket server library that they would recommend? Preferably one that supports features things like pinging, etc?
I couldn't find any nice ones online :((((, but I haven't used any of them yet so I'm wondering if anyone has, and has experience

If only ktor could be used in Java 🥺

[ocean quartz]

Springboot?

[distant sun]

I've used javalin a bit and I really liked it, looks like it has websockets support https://javalin.io/tutorials/websocket-example

[half harness]

Oh I completely forgot about spring 🥲, maybe I'll look into it but I heard spring was huge

[half harness]

Hm, haven't heard of javalin before, will look into it 😃

[prisma wave]

spring for websockets is like using a nuke to deal with a fly

[crude cloud]

i don't see the problem with that

I would rather kill every fly on earth

than one at a time

I hate flies

[wind patio]

lmao true

[pastel imp]

guys...

any of you saw 1.20.2?

big W

[distant sun]

o wow

MAYBE now you won't get kicked out that fast if it takes a bit longer to apply the texture xD

[pastel imp]

multi version support is also pog

[distant sun]

I wonder what that means

[still portal]

They also added a whole new protocol stage for so called ‘data driven content’ in the future

[distant sun]

perhaps smth like merging a pack for 1.12 and 1.13 together and the game knows which one to use?

[still portal]

With a mention of custom packets, but I’m not sure what that means and if that already existed

[distant sun]

yup cool stuff

[still portal]

Overlay resource packs too, which are essentially toggleable resource packs inside of the main pack

[still portal]

Wonder what they’re preparing for

Must be pretty big

[distant sun]

I hope it is smth cool at least

I have a feeling that they want to add more cosmetic stuff and sooner or later we will have a marketplace for java too xD

[still portal]

Praying they’ll give us the bedrock content systems

[distant sun]

There is one thing that I would like to have from bedrock, namely 3d armour

[still portal]

Native custom mobs and blocks would be awesome too but they’ve already given us display entities

[pastel imp]

you can specify which versions are supported by the pack

[still portal]

Bedrock ui system would be crazy

[pastel imp]

like 16, [16,17], {"min_inclusive": 16, "max_inclusive": 17}

[distant sun]

good points combi

[sly sonnet]

Where did you read this

[pastel imp]

latest snapshot patch notes

[inner umbra]

Are there any JDA alternatives (java based) that are modular? I don't want audio or everything all in one. I just need adding/removing roles and sending direct messages.

[cerulean ibex]

Just use a normal http client

D4j better anyway

[crude cloud]

d4j my beloved

[agile galleon]

Yeah prob http client

[pastel imp]

you can use jda without audio, gotta exclude opus or smt

look in the wiki

[gusty glen]

Dude, https://github.com/Discord4J/Discord4J is SOO NICE, they use a reactive API that integrates flawlessly with Kotlin Coroutines, wow

Just add these two dependencies and BOOM, fully integrated, amazing

implementation("org.jetbrains.kotlinx:kotlinx-coroutines-reactor:1.7.3")
implementation("io.projectreactor.kotlin:reactor-kotlin-extensions:1.2.2")

I never created a discord bot before (surprisingly, as everyone here seems to have done that already), but if I ever create one in the future, I will definitely use that API, thanks for sharing this tip Emily and Sparky

[hard dagger]

Reactive streams >>>

[crude cloud]

wait what

there are two sparkies????

no chance, it's gotta be an alt

[cerulean ibex]

It is

[ruby dew]

wait there is one and the only one wanderingpalace that makes super cool c++ AOT compilers, standalone minecraft servers, nms decoders, ?

[pastel imp]

unsure how I feel about #showcase

seems a bit off, also, display entities?

[still portal]

It’s a cool concept but limits the blocks to 8x8 textures instead of the standard 16x16 resolution

[wind patio]

true

I'd assume this would be better for decoration purposes, like people do custom skin heads, not for actual full builds.

[still portal]

Wouldn’t it be possible to use 8 display entities with 8 player heads and a 16x16 texture split over those 8 head textures for a full block

[wind patio]

could be

thought 7 extra entities?

dk

[pastel imp]

display entities don't take less resources than armor stands no?

[wind patio]

also, anyone here dealt with item "glow" (item appearing to be enchanted)? specifically in 1.19.4.
I'm using TriumphGUI and neither manually applying, neither using ItemBuilder#glow doesn't apply the enchanted tint.

[sly sonnet]

are you using lunar client by any chance?

its enchantment glint is broken

support/staff doesn't give a damn

[wind patio]

no, fabric with mods

[distant sun]

are you trying to make a head glow by any chance?

[wind patio]

a tool

might try checking if it displays without mods, maybe something is interfering

[pastel imp]

works for me...

[inner umbra]

Shaded it's still 8mb or something like that.

[wind patio]

yeah JDA itself is pretty big

[pastel imp]

^^

[wind patio]

though I don't really care about the size lol, still using it regardless

[inner umbra]

Discords api is basically just a rest api right? Might just make something for simple requests.

[wind patio]

well, technically, yes

https://discord.com/developers/docs/reference#http-api
https://discord.com/developers/docs/reference#gateway-websocket-api

[inner umbra]

👍

[remote goblet]

libraries: in plugin.yml

[agile galleon]

Not everything tho

But the stuff you want probably is

[half harness]

websockets aren't REST

[crude cloud]

but not everything is ws in discord

the rest bits are rest yes, but the bits that aren't aren't

you're welcome

[inner umbra]

1.8

[wind patio]

what

[remote goblet]

skill issue

[agile galleon]

Yeah

[crude cloud]

skull emoji

[half harness]

ye but they said technically, yes so just wanted to add that

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wind patio]

can you use the correct pronouns please

they are clearly written under my name when you click on my profile

[cinder flare]

inb4 you get banned for abusing the pronouns feature

[wintry plinth]

I'd set mine, but they're broken /s

[wind patio]

surely

[sly sonnet]

javascript issues

[wintry plinth]

they need me to come fix it

[ornate lodge]

anyone have buy and sell prices for shopgui i could use

[agile galleon]

No

Make them urself

It's a pain all server owners have to go through

[pastel imp]

@wintry plinth Unsure if you know about this but... https://nativephp.com/

ngl interesting

[wintry plinth]

Yeah I saw them as they was building it, it’s cool asf right?!

[pastel imp]

yeah, might eventually use it

[wintry plinth]

Will be dope for building useful desktop apps or menu bar ones

[pastel imp]

I kinda like webdev, like, in the middle, like and dislike at the same time lmao

but job opportunities in webdev suck

you don't get paid that much compared to other sectors

[wintry plinth]

What salaries in web dev do you not find much?

[sly sonnet]

in my country there are literally only web dev positions available

if ur lucky you can find senior dev position

[pastel imp]

in luxembourg (where I live), non web dev salaries are like 30k higher

lmao

at least from what I have spoken to several people in the work world

IT Teachers get more than web devs

lol

[wintry plinth]

Interesting, I find the salaries here are suitable tbh

[pastel imp]

welp, tbf, country has the highest pay for teachers in europe (maybe world?)

okay yeah, world.

[distant sun]

does anyone know a documentation software similar to docusaurus that has client side rendering as well? I've played with docusaurus a bit and it is pretty nice, but it is (probably like most documentation stuff) static, although with some BrowserOnly react component provided by them you can have dynamic stuff.

what I want to render is some math exercises, with a latex library for the formula and the an input or more for the result. The exercises will be random every time you open/refresh the page (loaded from a file)

[pastel imp]

what the actual frick? #showcase

[distant sun]

The 3rd image is a bit disturbing ngl xD

[agile galleon]

I thought you can do that with wiki.js

[pastel imp]

@glass vine this available to the public?

[cedar gorge]

I have a question about apis

i wanna make a website that has a login when the player logs in the website their minecraft inventory shows up on the website

issue is in the database i encryt the items so how wuold i do it

oh wait sorry their is another channel

[subtle fulcrum]

Totally random question

Is it possible to put items/pictures into Minecraft books in vanilla/spigot?

Say a player opens a book and can see a Diamond sword with writing next to it in a book. Possible?

[agile galleon]

yes

custom glyphs

[distant sun]

idk doesn't look like

[distant sun]

has anyone used this https://mantine.dev/ ? Looks pretty cool

[cerulean ibex]

according to github at least 1 person has

and according to npm at least 265 people have

[distant sun]

funny

[wind patio]

i havent

i used MUI

pretty good too

[ornate lodge]

I need some help so basically there are some crates setup using excellent crates with a hologram above them and on a line it includes the placeholder to show how much keys a player has however it is taking like 10 seconds to update is their any way to fix it

[distant sun]

How do people work with all these CSS libraries like tailwind? The random class names - which ig at some point makes sense, but not for a beginner - are killing me every time I see a good looking component but it consist of 5 other components, each with at least 4 css classes 😭

[wind patio]

tailwind aint that bad

boostrap is also easy to learn

[distant sun]

I guess I need to spend more time on basic css first, idk

[pastel imp]

tailwind is easy to understand if you know css

lol

[distant sun]

yeah as I've said I probably need to spend more time on css xD

[cinder flare]

yeah it's literally just more terse names for css properties lol

[wintry plinth]

Yeah I think once you know CSS, even at a basic level, the utility classes are near enough a 1:1 of the css versions

[cinder flare]

super easy and nice to use, plus you get a teeny tiny bundle size

[wintry plinth]

I much prefer Tailwind and would never go back to anything else, so nice when I can look at markup and know exactly what its doing

And yeah defo, bundle size is beautiful

[distant sun]

[drifting aspen]

You get used to them

I can't imagine doing responsive design without tailwind

[distant sun]

Yeah I wasn't saying anything about its usefulness

[gusty glen]

Since ChatGPT, I am dreaming about some AI that is able to convert code between programming languages without (many) errors, I mean, imagine converting entire programs in a blink of an eye? I would love to do that with some open-source projects that I've seen out there

[agile galleon]

Minecraft server -> Go

[gusty glen]

What do you mean? Oh, you mean converting Minecraft Server to Go? That would be very interesting indeed... I would love to compare the performance and see the gains/losses. 🤔

[cerulean ibex]

i wanna see it the regular server but compiled with graal native image

u could prob do a host that spins up the servers lazily with it

cuz graal could reduce start up time by a ton

and from looking a mache the only reflection i can see looks like gson

i mean theres a few other bits but theyre easy to remove or just add to the config

[cinder flare]

i mean, the vast majority of startup time is dedicated to loading the worlds and loading the plugins

both of which aren't really helped with graal or anything

[half harness]

Copilot thingy can convert code snippets (not entire programs tho)

Not regular copilot

It's like copilot preview or smth

[pastel imp]

https://www.codeconvert.ai/

[agile galleon]

I'll pay a buck for somebody to throw the whole mc server in there

[prisma wave]

https://github.com/GoLangMc/minecraft-server

Made by none other than Sxtanna

[hard dagger]

How much of the world loading is doing io tho?

And loading plugins won't be an issue (cuz u cant do em)

Well not jvm plugins at least

[prisma wave]

potentially a lot since world rules are very fragmented

[pastel imp]

that reminds me of https://byteskript.org/

actually, they added support to use it in like, html

similar to php

that's interesting

[wind patio]

mf talking like he invented the word 'syntax' in programming

it's not like javascript is basically the same thing 💀

takes couple of braincells to understand that
let x = 5is the same as set x to 5

[inner osprey]

yo one of my scripts dont work?

var usage = args[0]
function getTime(seconds) {
  var result = "";

  minutes = seconds / 60;
  hours = minutes / 60;
  days = hours / 24;

  minutes %= 60;

  var hs = "h ";
  var h = "h ";
  var ms = "m";
  var m = "m";

  if (usage == "command") {
    hs = " hours ";
    h = " hour ";
    ms = " minutes"
    m = " minute"
  }

  if (hours > 1) {
    result += hours.toFixed() + hs;
  }
  else if (hours == 1) {
    result += hours.toFixed() + h;
  }

  if (minutes > 1) {
    result += minutes.toFixed() + ms;
  }
  else if (minutes == 1) {
    result += minutes.toFixed() + m;
  }

  return result;
  }
getTime(seconds);```

[wind patio]

idk, shouldn't you return getTime(seconds)?

and wrong channel buckaroo #development / #placeholder-api idk

[inner osprey]

not sure :/

I had someone make this for me real quick and it did work

but now not?

also please @ me

[distant sun]

Check the formatter expansion

[inner osprey]

just did it

still nothing

come to think if it

none of them work

my expansions

idk why tho

I havent touched it

only updated papi etc

Still no idea :/

[static zealot]

You have 2 versions of the Javascript expansion installed

see Expansion-javascript.jar and Javascript-Expansion-QJS.jar

[inner osprey]

oh dam yeahj

which one do I need?

Just downloaded Javascript-Expansion-2.1.2

so I guess the old one?

[static zealot]

IDK. I'd just recommend uninstalling both and reinstalling using /papi ecloud download

to get the latest

[inner osprey]

ah slay

tyty

[static zealot]

/papi reload before redownloading

[inner osprey]

not evene there

nothing on the list either

got it to work

removing both and manually downloading Javascript-Expansion-2.1.2 fixed it

[distant sun]

The expansion is not verified

You need to download it manually

[agile galleon]

How in the jesus is that expansion not verified

[distant sun]

eh..

[static zealot]

Long story

[agile galleon]

Tell me

[inner umbra]

RCE if I remember correctly. And people wouldn't fix it themselves when it was written how to.

[wind patio]

interesting

how though

[inner umbra]

🤷 was fixed by negating perms though

[distant sun]

someone had the great idea to make a command like /jsexpansion parse <js code here> and well .. 🤣 I think this was an issue mostly on servers where people didn't setup their permissions right

[pastel imp]

uhm anyone has ever used https://github.com/appnexus/grafana-api-java-client ? I am a bit confused on the simple example, does it host the dashboard or do I connect to an already hosted dashboard?!

[distant sun]

'client' - you are just interacting with a dashboard hosted somewhere

[wind patio]

well, isnt it their own fault?

[distant sun]

yeah it is

but it was patched shortly after

[wind patio]

owell

[pastel imp]

uh- okay

I have never worked with grafana so yeah just trying to figure it out

if too much hassle, will go with an alternative

[cinder flare]

what are you trying to do with this?

[pastel imp]

log statistics of my discord bot (total guilds, users, etc)

[cinder flare]

you wouldn't use grafana to input data, you use it to visualize!

if you just wanna store data, prometheus is the best for metrics, and i think it has a thing you can do so that you can webhook log events to it

yeah you can use pushgateway

[pastel imp]

Ahhh that makes a lot more sense

[cinder flare]

https://github.com/prometheus/pushgateway

or actually, you could probably just do a prometheus exporter for your bot

since total guilds/users and stuff is a constant, not event based

[pastel imp]

I mean, I also want to track which commands are most used, etc.

I could also use the prometheus java client

xD

[cinder flare]

well the point of prometheus is that it scrapes your data

so you expose a web api in a standardized format and then it scrapes it every like 10s or whatever

so you could just track amount of usages in the last minute or whatever

[pastel imp]

so count usage, once it gets scrapped, reset it, and loop?

[cinder flare]

could do yeah

honestly not 100% on that, kinda new to metrics stuff, just use it for my minecraft network

[pastel imp]

yeah same here, but would love to have them

[agile galleon]

I wouldn't do prometheus

[pastel imp]

why not?

[agile galleon]

Afaik it's for scraping endpoints that don't natively support stuff like that but not sure

[pastel imp]

well what alternative do you suggest

?

[agile galleon]

No idea lol

Grafana API?

[pastel imp]

?????

[agile galleon]

Idk

[pastel imp]

hell I found an ultra pog dashboard and setup for discord bots

but it's for python

legit no idea how I would convert it to java

lmao

[crude cloud]

💀

[cinder flare]

it is basically the way to do metrics of any kind lol

[cinder flare]

Grafana doesn't store metrics/data, it just visualizes it

[sinful geyser]

hey idk how much yall know about databases but im in a little bit of a stick. Im using phpmyadmin mysql server which works perfectly using localhost but when for example i try to connect to it from server ran from a host it wont connect. Idk if i have the wrong host Isnt it just ment to be the ip in which it is ran off? i know i have the right port etc... anyone know why i cant connnect to it?

[mental trench]

i dont think you can connect from another ip to your localhost server, might be wrong

but you should test using an external database (prob something about ports opened)

[prisma wave]

port needs to be open publicly in your firewall yeah

among other things

[wind patio]

@cinder flare oi 👋

I have a quick question regarding prometheus and unified-metrics

so in the driver config

mode: "HTTP"
http:
  host: "0.0.0.0"
  port: 9100
  authentication:
    scheme: "NONE"
    username: "username"
    password: "password"
pushGateway:
  job: "unifiedmetrics"
  url: "http://pushgateway:9090"
  authentication:
    scheme: "NONE"
    username: "username"
    password: "password"
  interval: 10

what's the first port and the pushGateway url/port for?

plus, does prometheus need any additional setting up?

well, I think I got it lol

[cinder flare]

The http section is for normal stuff, ignore the push gateway for now. Basically you host a little web server that has a page with all your metrics, so you need to give it a port so that prometheus can access it

[wind patio]

yeah figured it out lol

prometheus setup was prob the longest

also, where is the data stored and how heavy does it get?

[pastel imp]

prometheus stores the data

I think

[wind patio]

figured out how to create custom data, added server total balance tracking, was thinking what else would be interesting to track lol

[pastel imp]

yeah it has an internal timeseries db

[pastel imp]

unique players?

[wind patio]

uniquemetrics setup is pretty cool as it is but I still find Plan more useful as it tracks data for each player, their activity, etc

[pastel imp]

unified*

[ornate lodge]

anyone know of a plugin that can reduce all players balances by a certain amount

[cinder flare]

i mean yeah they're different tools

Plan is player analytics

UnifiedMetrics is metrics

helps you keep server stuff going, it doesn't help you figure out where users are coming from or anything like that

[wintry plinth]

Analyse >>

[prisma wave]

stunning and brave

[brittle leaf]

currently doing my first attempts at packet only blocks so a can clump all mines in one location without them being visible to other players

[distant sun]

enjoy the pain

[brittle leaf]

its gunna be fun™️

but if it works, itll be good

[sweet cipher]

You should use PacketEvents

[brittle leaf]

im actually trying it out with protocollib first

id assume theres a difference

ill look into it

[crude cloud]

mfw Player.sendBlockChanges

[sweet cipher]

How would you detect player's breaking those blocks without packets though?

[brittle leaf]

that be the issue kekw

its why im using protocollib in the first place

since im somewhat comfortable sending packets already

its the intercepting and modifying that im not so comfortable with

[wind patio]

autocorrect 💀

[wind patio]

yeah, true, was hoping to replace Plan with grafana, but ig I'll keep both

[wind patio]

well, I might look into it, someday ™️

[static zealot]

plan >>

[wind patio]

ive heard both positive and negative stuff abt plan, but I feel pretty comfortable using it, thats why I chose to go w it

[static zealot]

plan is good. only thing is you have to set it up yourself.

[wintry plinth]

Honestly, if it works and serves your purpose then I understand. Is your MC server live? What game mode(s)?

[wind patio]

not live yet, planning to open this friday

it's a survival world, nothing too crazy

[brittle leaf]

been headdesking trying to get these packets to send, turns out im a stupid and forgot to convert the coordinates back from their section relative coordinate

[wintry plinth]

Ohh dope, good luck with launch :)

[wind patio]

well, gotta hope it turns out well

considering how much time and effort was put into the making

I was previously a dev for the most popular server in my country and I didnt bother doing the stuff I currently did for my own server, like setting up metrics, grafana, prometheus, making entire e-shop from scratch, a huge main/core server plugin with shit load of features, custom/extra fishing/mob/mining drops, enchants, daily, weekly, monthly server/database backups on another server, and a lot more but tired to type everything out lol

a bunch more to do for the future but the foundation is pretty well set-up

[wintry plinth]

Damn you gone all custom?

[wind patio]

gone crazy

not everything is custom, I suppose its nothing really unordinary, just a lot of vanilla enchancements with economy ig

[wintry plinth]

It’s all about the community, if you can build a nice one then that’s all that matters

[wind patio]

yeah, well, the previous server had a shitty community to say the least, mostly kids and sometimes a few older ones, but not exacty very wise

at least from what I know this server had a pretty mature community

[pastel imp]

setting up the prometheus and grafana for my discord bot

hopefully will be soon in the following hour or so

[distant sun]

https://youtu.be/synJZAtH58E

[agile galleon]

So true

I had a really shitty server, plain vanilla and in season 2 it was so much better but still nothing special, and it closed in 2021. I had such an awesome bond with the community.
I lost money running it but to this day I get DMs to bring it back xD

[brittle leaf]

this is supposed to be a stone cube kekw

[agile galleon]

Lmao

Just use packetevents XD

[brittle leaf]

i dont think this is a protocollib issue

cus im not even using protocollib to send the packets

i know ive fucked something up while doing the calculations

the x coord is right, its the y and z that arent

[agile galleon]

What the heck

Why are you even trying to do this?

[brittle leaf]

trying to put all prison player mines in the same location and not have anyone see anyone elses mines

[agile galleon]

Uhh why

[brittle leaf]

to make performance better and to reduce file size

or something

idk

why not, even if it never makes it to production why not try to see what i can make

wayyy i fixed it

Before
blockPosX & 15) << 8 | (blockPosY & 15) << 4 | blockPosZ & 15

After
blockPosX & 15) << 8 | (blockPosZ & 15) << 4 | blockPosY & 15

if you're wondering what it does, it converts a block position to a relative position in a chunk section and then into an integer

i mixed around the y and z values causing the funky behaviour

i copied and pasted it from the sectionRelativePos method in SectionPos and while troubleshooting i changed the variables used and ended up mixing them up

[inner umbra]

... can't you just do blockX << 16 not at PC so I can't check the code I used.

[thick monolith]

anyone know how to change attack damage on weapons?

specifically the bow

i know i can spawn in unique stat-edited items but i need to the change the stats of all bows globally and permanently

[noble gulch]

AttributeModifer

And listen to the on player shoot event

Hm no then you would need to give them back the new item

I wonder how quickly that would happen

[humble prism]

run it on oracle /shrug/

also mc hosting isnt really about making money (atleast imo), its very few servers that actually make/get costs back tbf

[agile galleon]

Blud missed the entire point

[brittle leaf]

they werent asking about getting it running again, they were just sharing an experience

[humble prism]

i mean if he wants to host it again for the ones who ask in the future

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[agile galleon]

I wanted to say that having a nice community is mostly all that matters

[pastel imp]

yo did you guys see https://idx.dev/

[potent nest]

Another project Google can kill in a few years?

[obtuse gale]

any dev here avail? im hiring a dev for my server

minecraft

just dm me if ur interested

[sly sonnet]

@obtuse gale #1135819519303098429

[wind patio]

surely he will not post on #1135819518111907900 instead

[inland bay]

Hello
I put my server in 1.16.5 and when I launch it writes : Unsupported Java detected (61.0). Only up to Java 16 is supported. someone knows the source of the crash please . Thank you in advance

[wind patio]

too new java

[distant sun]

https://youtu.be/QwUPs5N9I6I l m a o

[lavish notch]

I am back in business.

[sly sonnet]

Who do ppl like static abuse so much?

[wind patio]

depends what you call static abuse

if it's your main class, which is, effectively a singleton, setting a static main class instance variable is not, imo, static abuse

[civic cairn]

Just laziness

[potent nest]

Misunderstanding of the concept behind static

[brittle leaf]

you need to run the 1.16.5 server using either java 8 or java 11, so install either and change your start up script to use that java

either by changing the java to your/java11/location/java.exe or change your enviroment variable for java home to the new java location

[wind patio]

miusderstanding OOP*

[crude cloud]

not mutually exclusive statements

[cerulean ibex]

I think the main reason is that it always answers the question of "how do I access something from another class?" which is a question a lot of beginners ask

[cerulean ibex]

I would disagree. Using a "singleton" like that is poor design, and in most implementations of it, it breaks encapsulation by possibly returning null (an invalid state).

I also don't think what you're referring to can even be considered the singleton pattern

The singleton is also a creational design pattern, not a way to provide static access to some instance. Given that, there is no need for it at all since the plugin instance should be passed in by referencing this, not getInstance().

[crude cloud]

singletons don't even need to be static, they are not synonymous lol

but, y'know, "i'm too lazy to di", use a di framework and it'll do 99% of the work for you, excuse for being lazy

[sweet cipher]

The best way is to make all variables in a class static and then you can just make a new object every time you want to access them

[cerulean ibex]

exactly

[cerulean ibex]

^^^^

[pastel imp]

any recommendations on DI frameworks?

[cinder flare]

Dagger is my favorite

Guice is also kinda nice

[cerulean ibex]

ill list a few for u and what they do

• spring - not so lightweight but its the standard
• guice - requires a descent amount of boilerplate and afaik integration testing against it requires some boilerplate
• dagger - if youre running on a toaster use it, or, just don't do di
• micronaut - lots of features but doesnt work if the plugin jar has a space in it and hard to debug cuz it generates bytecode but supports graal
• avaje-inject - everything is checked at compile-time and its pretty lightweight. only downside beans are initialized eagerly so u need to set up all beans for tests even if u dont use them
• quarkus - no reflection afaik, implements cdi, easy to debug, supports graal

they all implement the jakarta inject api so if u dont like one u can easily switch to a diff one

[crude cloud]

I mean I wouldn't use spring or micronaut for the di, but if you're making a project already using either then that's what you should use lol

dagger is neat

[cerulean ibex]

i aint writing

@iforgotwhatannotation
abstract NuggetMaker nuggetMaker(VeryGoodNuggetMaker nuggetMaker);

[crude cloud]

okay

[pastel imp]

isn't there a @Inject or smt

remember seeing that somewhere

[cerulean ibex]

yes

[pastel imp]

doesn't that also work lol

[cerulean ibex]

@Inject tells the injector where to inject the dependencies, but what i was showing was telling the container that NuggetMaker should resolve to the VeryGoodNuggetMaker implementation

[boreal acorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrQpjhwNcM0
We need help configuring itemsadder if anyone wants to join the Server's DEV team.
Over 2700 members in our discord if you want to check it out

[cinder flare]

spring, micronaut, and quarkus are all actual full web frameworks lol

[wind patio]

hence "effectively"

pretty sure the way the plugins are handled there cant be loaded more than one instance of a plugin

and, well, setting a static variable of the instance itself shouldnt be a huge issue

when it comes to, not sure if its a correct term, maintainability (all the accessors of variable), I would say thats another topic

if your codebase is small, DI wont magically make it N times better

[civic cairn]

Never understood DI frameworks tbh

It is useful only if your codebase consists of singletone services

[potent nest]

never understood
pretends to understand

[civic cairn]

Am i wrong tho?

[potent nest]

services don't need to be singletons, you can benefit from DI even if only small parts of your codebase are services

[civic cairn]

I mean, not singletones with the static instance, classes that are instantiated once and used all over the place

[cinder flare]

yeah that's generally a lot of codebases lol

especially minecraft plugins, which a lot of people here work on

[civic cairn]

Good for them

but, like, if you have 10 dependencies on class its a design issue

5 maximum

[cinder flare]

eh

depends on what you're doing

[potent nest]

DI frameworks typically give you more control than just that

[civic cairn]

Maybe a main class is ok

[potent nest]

that's not a DI specific problem

[civic cairn]

Ye

But di frameworks are kinda used to work around that?

[potent nest]

there's nothing to work around, you can write strongly coupled code without DI frameworks easily

[wind patio]

anyone wanna explain tf is wrong with my fs

mysql has a table with max 5gb data

[civic cairn]

You build shit here?

[wind patio]

hm?

[civic cairn]

Do you compile anything on wsl

ah nvm

saw the first screenshot

[wind patio]

🥴

cool

[cerulean ibex]

and? you can use their di by itself

[wind patio]

well you can use a wrench to hit a nail too

but usually hammer is the way to go

[cinder flare]

can you? that doesn't feel great when you can use a much lighter dedicated DI lol

like bringing in Spring just for the DI is the textbook definition of overkill

[cerulean ibex]

theyre all essentially the same thing tho

[wind patio]

🥴

[cerulean ibex]

yea thats the disadvantage

tbh theyre not as big as i thought tho

in terms of file size at least, compared to guice, theyre like only 10% bigger

heres a graph from the avaje docs that shows them https://avaje.io/images/di-lib-size.png

[cinder flare]

yeah but like guice is huge lol

look at dagger 😌

[wind patio]

this is the first time I see someone recommending spring for DI

[cerulean ibex]

not so lightweight
i wouldnt say i recommended it

it is the og di framework tho

[vestal hedge]

I know this is Java, but have a problem with Vue.js and Laravel.
This does not seem to work and am getting an browser error Type Error: e not defined.
Get this error when clicking on button:

                                        <button class="m-2" @click="addToCart({{ json_encode($menuItem) }})">Toevoegen</button>

Vue:

<script>
    const app = Vue.createApp({
        data() {
            return {
                cartItems: []
            };
        },
        methods: {
            addToCart(menuItemJson) {
                console.log('hoi');
                const menuItem = JSON.parse(menuItemJson);
                this.cartItems.push(menuItem);
            }
        }
    });

    app.mount('#app');
</script>

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[wind patio]

Step 1, dont use vue

[vestal hedge]

comlpetely agree, except school does not and requires it. 😦

[drifting aspen]

Hey

be grateful that you're learning Vue in school

You could be learning JQuery

[vestal hedge]

atleast one upside

[vestal hedge]

small update: does not seem to be vue or smthing. when doing anyting other also like @Click="console.log()" it does like working

Actually nvm that. I have fixed it. Did not remind to put id="app" all above. the @click was not in the div. Love starting to program again... 🙂

[rose wing]

tell me ideas for a name for a guis lib

[crude cloud]

YAGL

[pastel imp]

Yet Another Gui Library? xD

[austere shale]

me when plugin didnt work for no reason for weeks on end and now it works

[sweet cipher]

Anyone have any idea how to fix this? Idk what is going on (using paperweight)

There was a failure while executing work items
A failure occurred while executing io.papermc.paperweight.tasks.GenerateMappings$GenerateMappingsAction
Mapping operation failed
java.lang.IllegalStateException: Unexpectedly merged method: ana/a
Unexpectedly merged method: ana/a

[crude cloud]

git gud

[sweet cipher]

Git is good

[sweet cipher]

It's a multi module gradle project by the way

[zenith phoenix]

Have you tired deleting the gradle cache?

[sweet cipher]

I tried invalidating IntelliJ cache, and using gradle clean, I'll try the gradle one

Unfortunately that did not work

[crude cloud]

@sweet cipher you should probably ask in https://discord.com/channels/289587909051416579/1078993196924813372 , although those kinds of issues are often result of some weird behaviour on a specific java version, the one person i know can help you with that is jmp

[sweet cipher]

Oh yeah I forgot to reply I figured it out, it had to do with me missing a repository for a completely unrelated dependency in a different module lol

[crude cloud]

ah

[slate elk]

yo Fisher i saw your showcase

looks really good

next generation redstone haha also dont forget to add batteries and shit i might do something very simillar soon not stealing ur idea but something simillar

kinda sucks minecraft doesnt allow cables stick to walls

maybe using itemframes or armorstands but it will be kinda heavy task to do tbf imagine many people use the new electricity

[pliant blaze]

anyone know a plugin like the one used in herobrine .org skyblock server

which generates random nether blocks

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxDMda8ueG0uBKotxHr7v1cuDeDwLu3njF

like this clip

[distant sun]

https://youtu.be/f6TXY5EyrHU I guess it is just a modified cobblestone generator plugin since it says "skyblock multiplayer" in comments

[kindred sequoia]

Ok

[half harness]

[pliant blaze]

yes its similar

[pliant blaze]

but whats that plugin name?

[inner umbra]

Just look up Magic Cobblestone Generator or similar.

[distant sun]

Do you guys know any general use tool for statistics? I just need to push some data to it and then to be able to view the data as charts.
E.g. when someone joins the discord server, I want to increase the number of joins for the invite they used and later on to view the statistics about all invites used every day.

[pastel imp]

there are stats bot that do that, discord has insights at 500+ members

there's also this grafana thing but doesn't track invites, https://grafana.com/grafana/dashboards/11240-discord/

[oblique heath]

matplotlib 😌

[distant sun]

It was just an example Afonso, and ik about grafana but I would need a db too

[distant sun]

[oblique heath]

ti84 emulator

ez

[distant sun]

Smh

[pastel imp]

oooooh

[crude cloud]

tsdb my beloved

[distant sun]

yeah

I was looking for smth that I don't need to setup, but ig I will just do that

[latent spear]

Hey anyone has a code for a loot box in deluxemenus ?

[wind patio]

how about ya do it yourself

[civic cairn]

Is there an api for deluxe menus?

[lavish notch]

Touch grass

[prisma wave]

?

[latent spear]

I dont know how

[oblique heath]

moni

[abstract osprey]

Is it possible for someone to compile a git repo for me into a jar?

[oblique heath]

are you unable to do it yourself for some reason o.o

[woven plaza]

i can for 10usd

[prisma wave]

?

[steel heart]

nah there is surely no way my uni forces us to write in haskell

this is offensive

[prisma wave]

wtf i love ur uni now

so based

so so based

[oblique heath]

omg

mine only had us do racket

you've been blessed

[solemn laurel]

It’s required at my school for software engineering majors too lol

I was remote that semester and took OCaml instead, which is very similar (just another functional language)

[cinder flare]

mmm ML-based languages

of which I guess Haskell is one

[wintry plinth]

Many are starting to favour PHP here, but if you’re still on the fence - https://youtu.be/ZRV3pBuPxEQ

[wind patio]

$phpDoesntSuck = true;

[wind patio]

I think that this mindset that php is bad comes from people that used it back in the day, not having all these modern frameworks, libraries and what-not
I can agree that php on its own only with inline html is pretty bad and the methods are a bit hard to find/remember, since it's quite different from pretty much all other langs, ex. strcmp, strcasecmp, strpos, etc., plus the $ for variables

[distant sun]

strcmp, strcasecmp, strpos, etc.
C vibes

[wind patio]

implode explode 🥴

[distant sun]

wth

[wind patio]

function cmp($a, $b)
{
    if ($a == $b) {
        return 0;
    }
    return ($a < $b) ? -1 : 1;
}

$a = array(3, 2, 5, 6, 1);

usort($a, "cmp");

this was very weird for me when I first started php, how does it know the function when its name is passed by a string

[cinder flare]

you can just invoke stuff in like most languages like that

you can do that with reflection in Java

[distant sun]

poor man method reference

[cinder flare]

but iirc you can also just do a method reference yeah

[wind patio]

yeah, that's true, but php was one of my first langs back in the day lol

[cinder flare]

or something like ClassName::class . '@cmp'

cause it's literally just strings

and . is the concatentation operator

[wind patio]

I only realized that php had classes way too late

🥴

[cinder flare]

lol PHP had classes for so long

better than C++ imo

[wind patio]

now I do, I didn't when I started and wrote a bunch of spaghetti code

[cinder flare]

it even has kotlin-style constructor property injection

well not as nice as kotlin

but you can make a constructor that's type hinted and it will automatically assign them as class variables

[wind patio]

yeah, that I noticed

actually found that out kinda by mistake or rather a suggestion from phpstorm when writing a symfony project

[potent nest]

PHP has variable variables

[prisma wave]

loosely, but not as much as something like OCaml or F#

[prisma wave]

im sorry to hear that

[wintry plinth]

PHP is the goat

[prisma wave]

😕

[wintry plinth]

Not the latest shiny tool, but the developer experience IMO is unmatched. I tried Next.js (full stack wise) was fucking terrible

Frontend with nextjs is lovely, but backend was a nightmare. Went straight back to php + react

Plus tbh, PHP handles 25mil sessions + 40mil events + 28mil heartbeats a month without a hitch, no cpu usage

[cinder flare]

yeah honestly, i'm very impressed with Laravel mostly

just the documentation, the first-party utilities that hook in really nicely, it's kind of amazing

and the language is better than python in a lot ways imo

especially in the type annotations area

i honestly feel like Spring, etc. could have basically the same thing, they'd just need to drop the cruft of XML and basically rewrite all the documentation ever made to be a lot better

[wintry plinth]

Yeah I think this for me is what interests me most, is knowing you can use these packages and they won't suddenly be unmaintained

And usually you only need first-party stuff to build things, the only other time is spatie packages, which are backed by a huge company 😂

[cinder flare]

(unless it's Nova lmao)

[wintry plinth]

God nova is a nightmare, so is their billing thing, i forget the namer, not cashier, the panel thing

Genuinely terrible, can't customise anything

Spark thats it, https://spark.laravel.com/ absolutely terrible - like it works and does the job,. but you can't customise anything

[cinder flare]

yeah I heard with the whole release of Filament v3, it's basically pointless to buy Nova

when you can just get a free and open source admin panel that's like 100x more customizable and stuff

[agile galleon]

What the heck?????????????????

Why have I never heard of filament???

aaaa its so cool

[wintry plinth]

I've been writing tests, v1 codebase had 100, but we'll get there

new codebase is technically v2 not v3, just cba to change folder

[wind patio]

😵‍💫 (not all branches are merged)

[cinder flare]

not the unit tests 😔

[wintry plinth]

I've never saw a need yet for unit tests tbh 😢 someday, its because everything touches a database

like the analytics engine

[cinder flare]

stuff like it dispatches a job and it creates an event just seem so pointless to me

like that's literally one line that isn't in your control directly, what's the chance it's not going to do that yk lol

[prisma wave]

unfortunately without purity in the type system it is impossible to always tell if your code works

[wintry plinth]

For sure, in this instance it comes down to confidence - as I write the test before doing the controller so I knew what to expect. It's also handy to have tests for it in case you break something later. For example, if I suddenly fuck up a middleware, I wouldn't know if suddenly that breaks my job etc.

My events schema also comes in 2 parts: events and event_metadata. I find it handy to have in case for example I add a new database field for another part of the app, I could suddenly break my heartbeats

[lavish notch]

Found this on LinkedIn

[frigid badge]

people really use linkedin for the wrong stuff lol

[distant sun]

@frigid badge corporation version of Facebook boomers

Wanna connect? 🤣

[frigid badge]

haha yeah basically, and sure.

[distant sun]

Ive only now used LinkedIn more because I was looking for a job, all the notifications I get from it are annoying

[wind patio]

POV: you CTLR + Click Material class

[distant sun]

I'm glad it is not only me

[wind patio]

IDE can't even handle it with 4gb 🥴 (though 4 is not necessarily high)

[distant sun]

Although I don't get that, but it takes a .. second to load

[frigid badge]

yeah I rarely use it, and have notifications disabled since the amount of messages is insane.

[distant sun]

I remember when it was running just fine with 1gb or 2

[wind patio]

should try to open material class for 1.8

see how fast it is

[distant sun]

The enum itself is wrapped into an uh, editor fold or smth

[wind patio]

fk it, lets go with 1.0

[distant sun]

I think there is even spigot 1.2.5

Or a very old version anyways xD

[wind patio]

hm, earliest nms I can find is 1.8

ah nvm

craftbukkit

spigot earliest is 1.4.6?

[brittle leaf]

the earliest mentions of spigot existing is from the 1.4 era, looks like they had a 1.4.5 build at some point

or atleast that i could find

according to the jenkins page for spigot before they stopped providing builds already compiled, there is build #129 for 1.3.2, tho from the looks of it its just a fork of craftbukkit, mentioning EcoCityCraft, was that md_5's server back in the day?

https://ci.md-5.net/job/Spigot/129/

[tardy dagger]

i'm pretty sure that they also provided builds up to 1.7 - at least 1.8 is the oldest version that buildtools lets you compile without any dirty hacks

I can't send screenshots 🥲