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cinder flare Jun 14, 2023, 7:52 AM

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just use Configurate

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it's likely your best bet

pastel imp Jun 14, 2023, 8:19 AM

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don't understand much how configurate works tbh and dazzleconf looks better imo

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but will see

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doesn't configurate have annotation based configs like dazzleconf?

hard dagger Jun 14, 2023, 8:27 AM

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im gay

pastel imp Jun 14, 2023, 8:28 AM

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cool

sly sonnet Jun 14, 2023, 8:53 AM

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matts config >>>

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clean + easy to use

distant sun Jun 14, 2023, 8:58 AM

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And most important, outdated

pastel imp Jun 14, 2023, 8:58 AM

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;-;

sly sonnet Jun 14, 2023, 9:08 AM

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it works anyway

pastel imp Jun 14, 2023, 9:30 AM

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if I go by that logic I prefer dazzleconf

sturdy zinc Jun 14, 2023, 12:06 PM

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was there any change on blocks broken in 1.20?

mental trench Jun 14, 2023, 12:34 PM

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wdym

pastel imp Jun 14, 2023, 1:23 PM

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what would be a good way of storing an armorstand persistently?

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aka be able to get the armorstand object after restarts and modify it, etc.

cinder flare Jun 14, 2023, 1:43 PM

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don't

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just store the details about it and recreate it when you restart

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ideally also don't actually spawn an armorstand, just do it packet-wise

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but that depends on your usecase

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if you actually want to save one, you can get entities by location iirc

pastel imp Jun 14, 2023, 1:50 PM

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its for a top 3 leaderboard, each armorstand representing one position

mental trench Jun 14, 2023, 1:56 PM

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uuid?

inner umbra Jun 14, 2023, 2:00 PM

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pastel imp what would be a good way of storing an armorstand persistently?

I mean just spawn the armorstand would be the easiest way.

If its per player, you can save specific data to the players PDC

pastel imp Jun 14, 2023, 2:04 PM

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not the point, I need to modify it, so suppose uuid would the best?

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didn't think of that, ty Alonso

mental trench Jun 14, 2023, 2:14 PM

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I use uuid for my leaderboard plugin

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issue is that in old version there is not getEntityByUUID or similar

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so yeah, loop cat_cry

inner umbra Jun 14, 2023, 2:18 PM

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mental trench issue is that in old version there is not getEntityByUUID or similar

What version doesn't have it?

mental trench Jun 14, 2023, 2:19 PM

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mmm iirc since 1.12

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yes, 1.12.2

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(prob 1.12 too but no one uses that xd)

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and method was getEntity(UUID), mb

inner umbra Jun 14, 2023, 2:23 PM

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Was gonna say I got entities with UUID can't check my code atm

ocean quartz Jun 14, 2023, 2:30 PM

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Packet are the easiest way to handle that, just spawn and despawn based on player being around or not based on a saved location, no need to worry about getting the right entity or removing/adding them on start/stop

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Though, for this display entities would be better ;p

distant sun Jun 14, 2023, 2:38 PM

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I think he uses armor stands also for displaying the player that's on that position (e.g. use their skull) - not only for a hologram

pastel imp Jun 14, 2023, 3:24 PM

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exactly

cinder flare Jun 14, 2023, 3:40 PM

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pastel imp its for a top 3 leaderboard, each armorstand representing one position

tbh i would just use an existing made leaderboard plugin

mental trench Jun 14, 2023, 3:49 PM

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ocean quartz Packet are the easiest way to handle that, just spawn and despawn based on playe...

how would you check if player is around, just wondering

mental trench Jun 14, 2023, 3:51 PM

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cinder flare tbh i would just use an existing made leaderboard plugin

https://i.imgur.com/VKdEDBL.gif

Imgur

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duckrisitas

half harness Jun 14, 2023, 3:59 PM

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mental trench how would you check if player is around, just wondering

Location#distance and compare that with the armorstand locations

mental trench Jun 14, 2023, 4:01 PM

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what i meant was when to check, not how xD

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global task, task per player, move event, other?

ocean quartz Jun 14, 2023, 4:13 PM

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half harness Location#distance and compare that with the armorstand locations

distanceSquared 😌

ocean quartz Jun 14, 2023, 4:14 PM

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mental trench global task, task per player, move event, other?

Async task per leaderboard
Or a single task for all leaderboards, doesn't really matter

mental trench Jun 14, 2023, 4:27 PM

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so an async task per leaderboard checking near players using nearbyEntities or looping players in world and getting distance?

pastel imp Jun 14, 2023, 4:28 PM

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cinder flare tbh i would just use an existing made leaderboard plugin

client wants builtin

ocean quartz Jun 14, 2023, 4:41 PM

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mental trench so an async task per leaderboard checking near players using nearbyEntities or l...

Loop through players

slate elk Jun 14, 2023, 4:55 PM

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ocean quartz Loop through players

how efficent is looping thru players if scale is over 400 in 1 world/

slate elk Jun 14, 2023, 4:57 PM

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mental trench so an async task per leaderboard checking near players using nearbyEntities or l...

i would suggest you write a storage system for players like chunk cubes or something

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so u just send to nearby cubes the packetts..

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and move players from cube to cube depending on some task that can be highly optimized.

ocean quartz Jun 14, 2023, 5:03 PM

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slate elk how efficent is looping thru players if scale is over 400 in 1 world/

With 400 players in a single world you'll have plenty of other problems before this becomes one

mental trench Jun 14, 2023, 5:06 PM

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brittle leaf Jun 14, 2023, 5:13 PM

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in the grand scheme of things doing 400 iterations isnt alot

rotund egret Jun 14, 2023, 5:24 PM

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If a plugin isn't improving the severs tickrate to 30tps then it's basically trash 🙄 😒 😤

inner umbra Jun 14, 2023, 5:26 PM

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brittle leaf in the grand scheme of things doing 400 iterations isnt alot

On spigot/mojangs api it is xD

ocean quartz Jun 14, 2023, 5:27 PM

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It is not lol

slate elk Jun 14, 2023, 5:54 PM

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brittle leaf in the grand scheme of things doing 400 iterations isnt alot

correct but operations like this can happen 50x a second

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which is already way more then 400

slate elk Jun 14, 2023, 5:55 PM

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ocean quartz With 400 players in a single world you'll have plenty of other problems before t...

honestly didnt encounter many with 300 players

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in a 1000x1000 world.

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not sure really what nearbyEntities does maybe ill take a look into bukkit

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it probably loops as well and checks distance

ocean quartz Jun 14, 2023, 5:56 PM

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It might check more things, you'll have more entities around than players for most of the time

slate elk Jun 14, 2023, 5:57 PM

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for (Entity entity : location.getWorld().getNearbyEntities(location, radius, radius, radius)) {
            if (entity instanceof Player) {
                Player player = (Player) entity;
                ((CraftPlayer) player).getHandle().playerConnection.sendPacket(packet);
            }
        }

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i might write custom playerlocmanager so i can make a big difference in the chekcs

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by splitting players into groups according to their location

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oh i i cant send pics

half harness Jun 14, 2023, 6:00 PM

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?imgur

compact perchBOT Jun 14, 2023, 6:00 PM

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FAQ Answer:

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You can also use a screenshot service like gyazo or jinx and post those links here.

slate elk Jun 14, 2023, 6:01 PM

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sec it requires to register ill just find free service instead

half harness Jun 14, 2023, 6:01 PM

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Thonk

slate elk Jun 14, 2023, 6:01 PM

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https://ibb.co/WkhgXhF

slate elk Jun 14, 2023, 6:02 PM

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mental trench so an async task per leaderboard checking near players using nearbyEntities or l...

anyway

ocean quartz Jun 14, 2023, 6:02 PM

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So you'll .. loop through players to separate them into groups .. to avoid .. looping through players?

slate elk Jun 14, 2023, 6:02 PM

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spatial indexing techniques.

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i will loop less often

ocean quartz Jun 14, 2023, 6:02 PM

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Which will constantly need updating because players move

slate elk Jun 14, 2023, 6:02 PM

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way less often and change it upon some events

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like teleport

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players dont move that fast i either can write an faster check if player nears a border

ocean quartz Jun 14, 2023, 6:03 PM

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You're over complicating a problem that doesn't really exist, it's juat a few players lol

slate elk Jun 14, 2023, 6:03 PM

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we always aim from highest quality haha

inner umbra Jun 14, 2023, 6:03 PM

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You're probs better off checking on playermove then

slate elk Jun 14, 2023, 6:03 PM

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for small scale yeah its not good

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playermove called too often

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heavy event

inner umbra Jun 14, 2023, 6:04 PM

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If used wrong

ocean quartz Jun 14, 2023, 6:04 PM

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Premature optimizations aren't really highest quality

inner umbra Jun 14, 2023, 6:04 PM

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But you can capture the players new location and run the check you need async
Could also add a delay so it only captures every 5 seconds or something.

slate elk Jun 14, 2023, 6:04 PM

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inner umbra But you can capture the players new location and run the check you need async Co...

yeah you can

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you can do same with group things if player gets within from border short the check time

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spatial indexing techniques were proven to be way more efficent in high scales

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you can do math and write pre made numbers like caclulate how much time it can take a player to walk that distance

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for example if player distance is above 100 20sec if below 25 then 4 sec

inner umbra Jun 14, 2023, 6:09 PM

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Could also only check the player not all entities.

slate elk Jun 14, 2023, 6:09 PM

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if u write own storage map you dont store entites in it

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u dont send packets to entities no reason to store them there...

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but it really depends on the goal

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also guys an question related to bukkit api is there an event fired if player moves an itemstack inside his inventory?

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i work on an update for my plugin and i cant really find an event in the docs

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i dont want to loop constatly over players inventory (heavy task on high scale.)

pastel imp Jun 14, 2023, 6:15 PM

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inventory interact event?

slate elk Jun 14, 2023, 6:19 PM

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does it affects player inventory?

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i have seen that event

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but it dont work on client inventory

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like self player inventory only on 3rd inventories

ocean quartz Jun 14, 2023, 6:30 PM

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It affects all inventories

forest pecan Jun 14, 2023, 7:35 PM

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How to show hearths above head players?

static zealot Jun 14, 2023, 7:37 PM

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forest pecan How to show hearths above head players?

Are you trying to make a plugin to do this or are you asking what plugin to use to do this? I think it might be also possible without a plugin at all just using scoreboard objectives but I can't guarantee.

forest pecan Jun 14, 2023, 7:38 PM

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Without seems better.

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u know how to add it with scoreboard?

half harness Jun 14, 2023, 7:45 PM

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forest pecan u know how to add it with scoreboard?

should be smth like /scoreboard objectives add HP health {"text":"HP","color":"RED","bold":"true"}
then /scoreboard objectives setdisplay belowname HP

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq5UPXhIypQ

forest pecan Jun 14, 2023, 7:54 PM

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If i do Dark_Red

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it doesn't work.

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I see the colors not working XD

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Has to do something with Placeholder API?

static zealot Jun 14, 2023, 7:59 PM

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forest pecan Has to do something with Placeholder API?

no? you're not using a plugin

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also is there dark red? I thought &c is just RED

drifting aspen Jun 14, 2023, 8:01 PM

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static zealot also is there dark red? I thought &c is just RED

Yeah, &c is just red

half harness Jun 14, 2023, 8:04 PM

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forest pecan If i do Dark_Red

do lowercase

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its case-sensitive

distant sun Jun 14, 2023, 8:14 PM

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static zealot also is there dark red? I thought &c is just RED

4 is dark red

static zealot Jun 14, 2023, 8:14 PM

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ah right. I forgot that exists

forest pecan Jun 14, 2023, 8:17 PM

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half harness its case-sensitive

Dark-red?

half harness Jun 14, 2023, 8:17 PM

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dark_red

forest pecan Jun 14, 2023, 8:18 PM

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i know.

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But the colors doesnt work

half harness Jun 14, 2023, 8:22 PM

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fixed

sturdy zinc Jun 14, 2023, 11:45 PM

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Back to figuring out why the new blocks are not being detect in Statz?

slate elk Jun 15, 2023, 3:54 AM

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sturdy zinc Back to figuring out why the new blocks are not being detect in Statz?

do some small debugging men probably the new API didnt register them or so

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like if the server software unable to fire the event then listen to thee packet the player sends when he breaks thee block ~

slate elk Jun 15, 2023, 5:13 AM

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maybe its also somehing on client side that causes no packet to be send from player but it no sense thing

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if it dont fires you will have to write a class to connect server pipeline and do some tests to see the behavior also decompile mc to see maybe its client side thing , a cheap alternative if problem is not on server side and the client does not send the packet try to spoof the block to something else and retexture it ;p

wind patio Jun 15, 2023, 2:05 PM

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just ask
#development

tight ore Jun 15, 2023, 2:06 PM

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wind patio just ask <#165129131770511360>

Thank you and sorry.

distant sun Jun 15, 2023, 10:35 PM

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new github ui?

pastel imp Jun 16, 2023, 5:23 AM

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yeah

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there is also file navigation etc

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has been like that for a while for me though

hard dagger Jun 16, 2023, 8:53 AM

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Looks ew imo

sly sonnet Jun 16, 2023, 8:58 AM

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hard dagger Looks ew imo

u dont even use it so all g

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also, what exactly did change?

static zealot Jun 16, 2023, 11:12 AM

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distant sun new github ui?

what changed?

static zealot Jun 16, 2023, 11:12 AM

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pastel imp has been like that for a while for me though

Ohhh. they released the experimental features. I see

distant sun Jun 16, 2023, 12:32 PM

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the nav bar is different

queen saffron Jun 16, 2023, 12:49 PM

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Steam also updated their UI

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The little icon on windows now pops this up for example

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store aswell

static zealot Jun 16, 2023, 12:50 PM

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yeah. it's a bit weird

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everything feels very block-y now

queen saffron Jun 16, 2023, 12:51 PM

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Yup

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Minecraft

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xD

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Since when is this a thing???

long dagger Jun 16, 2023, 1:00 PM

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Steam has always had a sucky ui

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It has never looked good in my opinion

crude cloud Jun 16, 2023, 1:06 PM

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steam has always had the most inconsistent of UIs, get don't really give a fuck lmao

quaint isle Jun 16, 2023, 2:02 PM

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Does anyone know a good Js/php library for putting text with shadow on an image?

distant sun Jun 16, 2023, 2:03 PM

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canvas?

quaint isle Jun 16, 2023, 2:04 PM

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You mean the html canvas thingy?

I wanna add text with soft shadow to images in bulk, I dont think canvas can do that

wind patio Jun 16, 2023, 2:26 PM

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No

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Real canvas

lavish notch Jun 16, 2023, 2:45 PM

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wind patio Real canvas

grass

pastel imp Jun 16, 2023, 8:56 PM

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anyone knows a good chat prompt library/api?

rotund egret Jun 16, 2023, 9:01 PM

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Adventure supports clickable components, unless you're specifically looking for a library that wraps a timer around it?

pastel imp Jun 16, 2023, 9:04 PM

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rotund egret Adventure supports clickable components, unless you're specifically looking for ...

meant like, the plugin sends "What's the name of the player?" and you answer in chat

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and it gets that input and executes X

drifting aspen Jun 16, 2023, 9:07 PM

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Isn't there something like Bukkit conversation API?

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Iirc it covered this usecase

distant sun Jun 16, 2023, 9:09 PM

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pastel imp anyone knows a good chat prompt library/api?

anvil api

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oh I read that wrong, ups

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yeah, the old af conversation api would do that

drifting aspen Jun 16, 2023, 9:10 PM

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Or i mean, you can just use the chat event

pastel imp Jun 16, 2023, 10:12 PM

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is there no other option?

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would prefer an easy way to do it and pref. not the conversation api

distant sun Jun 16, 2023, 10:14 PM

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it is not that hard to use, it just takes a second to get the flow

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you basically use the conversation factory class, add a prompt and then start the conversation

pastel imp Jun 16, 2023, 10:22 PM

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confusion

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it's past midnight, my brain doesn't have enough processing power to figure that out

pastel imp Jun 17, 2023, 12:01 PM

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what are the main points that people use as argument on why mythic mobs sucks?

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abuse packets?

forest pecan Jun 17, 2023, 3:52 PM

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Somebody knows how to put uclan v.6 clan name infront of name in chat.?

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And im looking for a good anti x ray

half harness Jun 17, 2023, 3:56 PM

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forest pecan And im looking for a good anti x ray

paper has one built-in I think

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https://docs.papermc.io/paper/anti-xray

Configuring Anti-Xray | PaperMC Documentation

Originally written and maintained by stonar96.

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here's a guide on how to configure it

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all paper forks should also have it too

forest pecan Jun 17, 2023, 3:57 PM

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k k thanks!

urban sleet Jun 17, 2023, 8:22 PM

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pastel imp what are the main points that people use as argument on why mythic mobs sucks?

I run a fairly large server and mythicmobs has never caused any issues for us

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It performs very well assuming you don't do something silly with it

half harness Jun 18, 2023, 2:03 AM

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In maven pom, it says to use | as a separator when using a colon: https://maven.apache.org/scm/git.html
But sonatype ignores this rule: https://central.sonatype.org/publish/requirements/#scm-information
(Git hosted on Github should be ...github.com|simpligility/... instead of ...github.com:simpligility/...)
🤔 🤔 which should I do?

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when publishing to maven central

half harness Jun 18, 2023, 2:19 AM

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ill use :

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

forest pecan Jun 18, 2023, 3:47 PM

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man have u ever had to copy like 20 classes cuz an api is so dogshit and doesnt use interfaces lmao

rotund egret Jun 18, 2023, 4:19 PM

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Me

wind patio Jun 18, 2023, 4:56 PM

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forest pecan man have u ever had to copy like 20 classes cuz an api is so dogshit and doesnt ...

stealing code !!! 😱

forest pecan Jun 18, 2023, 6:12 PM

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wind patio stealing code !!! 😱

🤓

wind patio Jun 18, 2023, 7:11 PM

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forest pecan 🤓

https://tenor.com/view/heyzzy-mods-cry-to-mods-annoying-bitch-stfu-gif-25951942

Tenor

flint crow Jun 18, 2023, 7:23 PM

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any translation for english from the smart devs here? :/

wind patio Jun 18, 2023, 7:29 PM

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when does this occur

flint crow Jun 18, 2023, 7:29 PM

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when i join the server :/

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it kicks me

wind patio Jun 18, 2023, 7:30 PM

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version?

flint crow Jun 18, 2023, 7:30 PM

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i updated from 1.19.4 to 1.20.1

pastel imp Jun 18, 2023, 7:30 PM

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paper?

flint crow Jun 18, 2023, 7:30 PM

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ye

pastel imp Jun 18, 2023, 7:30 PM

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maybe report it to them ?

half harness Jun 18, 2023, 7:30 PM

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flint crow i updated from 1.19.4 to 1.20.1

Is ur client on latest

wind patio Jun 18, 2023, 7:30 PM

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my best guess would be mismatch of the data sent/read (server => googoo gaga iduno what to do with ur data)

flint crow Jun 18, 2023, 7:30 PM

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ye

pastel imp Jun 18, 2023, 7:31 PM

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viaversion?

half harness Jun 18, 2023, 7:31 PM

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It could be a plugin incompatibility tho
Try removing as many plugins as you can while keeping the error

flint crow Jun 18, 2023, 7:31 PM

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pastel imp viaversion?

nop i dont have it :/

flint crow Jun 18, 2023, 7:31 PM

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half harness It could be a plugin incompatibility tho Try removing as many plugins as you can...

yee that would be a solution

solemn laurel Jun 18, 2023, 7:57 PM

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binary search plugin removal xD

flint crow Jun 18, 2023, 8:58 PM

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oh ye i found the issue and fixed it already ye it was caused by a plugin

pastel imp Jun 18, 2023, 8:58 PM

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flint crow oh ye i found the issue and fixed it already ye it was caused by a plugin

may I ask which?

flint crow Jun 18, 2023, 8:58 PM

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clientdetector

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wasnt still updated for 1.20

hard dagger Jun 18, 2023, 9:29 PM

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forest pecan man have u ever had to copy like 20 classes cuz an api is so dogshit and doesnt ...

Use adapter pattern instead

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Adapt their classes to ur interface

forest pecan Jun 18, 2023, 9:49 PM

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hard dagger Use adapter pattern instead

nah but the issue is

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their classes use concrete implementations and dont use the interface version 💀

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idek why

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so the only way is to manually copy the classes and replace the concrete implementations with the interface ones

hard dagger Jun 18, 2023, 10:01 PM

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forest pecan their classes use concrete implementations and dont use the interface version 💀

which the adapter pattern solves?

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whats the issue with them being concrete

forest pecan Jun 18, 2023, 10:05 PM

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hard dagger which the adapter pattern solves?

the other part is also exposure

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the library doesnt expose some of the abstract classes/methods that its own implementations use

steel heart Jun 18, 2023, 11:36 PM

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ye technically adapter pattern solves it, but big yikes regarding that api or library w/e

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cuz like, sounds a bit smelly if u have to resort to adapter

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 4:57 AM

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uhm are there alternatives to the bukkit scheduler?

hard dagger Jun 19, 2023, 5:08 AM

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pastel imp uhm are there alternatives to the bukkit scheduler?

java.util.Timer or smth like that

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:24 AM

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            ItemMeta meta  = item.getItemMeta();
            List<String> lore = meta.getLore();
            lore.set(lore.size() - 1,"Ammo: " +  (ammo - 1));
            meta.setLore(lore);
            item.setItemMeta(meta);

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why does his update in super delay?

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like other things afterwards it happen 2-3 times meanwhile this updates only once

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ill debug to show behavior

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:29 AM

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The what and what with what now?

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Also, #development

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:29 AM

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dev general? isnt it correct place to ask?

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question is about java

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:29 AM

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this is general dev chatting

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help is in #development

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:29 AM

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not asking for help

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asking why its delayed

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:30 AM

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then what are you

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:30 AM

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dont create xy problem right there

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:30 AM

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I would consider that asking for support but well

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still don't understand what you are saying though

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:30 AM

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im not asking for spoon feed or what ever asking a general question why an itemstack updates in delay via bukkit api

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:31 AM

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slate elk im not asking for spoon feed or what ever asking a general question why an items...

help/support isn't spoon feeding either lol

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:31 AM

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other code executes 2-3 times meanwhile the itemstack only updates once

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whatts the logic behind tha shit

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:31 AM

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it's where you ask questions and get answers but whatever, regarding the question

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if I recall correctly it's a limitation on the bukkit api? I am not 100% sure

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no wonder most gun plug-ins also have a delay on updating

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:33 AM

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imma just stick to map i guess to store the weapon serial ID and ammo loaded kinda sucks i will have to add a table for it into the ammo values when i clear the cache

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:33 AM

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pastel imp no wonder most gun plug-ins also have a delay on updating

i dont know didnt use any plugins in the past lol

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:34 AM

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me neither, but have seen them lol

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:34 AM

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slate elk imma just stick to map i guess to store the weapon serial ID and ammo loaded kin...

where you storing those in lore/name?

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:34 AM

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lore

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i want users be able to see ammo amount

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:35 AM

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why don't you use ✨ PDC ✨

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:35 AM

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i can use nms also but wont be able to display it

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pdc is?

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:35 AM

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PersistentDataContainer

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:35 AM

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sorry im using dino version probably it does not exist

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:35 AM

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introduced in 1.14.4

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:35 AM

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im on 1.6.4

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:35 AM

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What the actual Frick?

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I though people using 1.8.8 was already bad and you are on 1.6.4?!?!

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why?

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:36 AM

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no reason ...

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:36 AM

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hell this gotta be rare, someone take a screenshot

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:36 AM

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like 1.7.10 is fine toto

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too*

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:36 AM

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then do yourself a favor and update to latest.

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:37 AM

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nah i wont update above 1.8.8...

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i love the new API

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just what players prefer

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:37 AM

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what?

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:37 AM

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i coded some commesions for newer versions

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:37 AM

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what the actual what

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:37 AM

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rich api

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:37 AM

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your players want that low version?!

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:38 AM

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fingerguns

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:38 AM

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1.7.10 is almost 9 years old

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1.6.4 is more than that

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how many players do you have and what type of server is it?

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if I may ask

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:39 AM

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its a gun survival server

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not like minecraftt survival

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simillar to rusttt

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i use texturepack to change blocks and things

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around 200 at pick

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at the moment server undermaintaince

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so i decided to rewrite gun system

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there many servers on old versions

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probably forge servers moded and etc

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and by t is broken so sometimes it just outputs few times

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laptop ;/

wind patio Jun 19, 2023, 9:42 AM

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classic 'we dont update cuz <insert-non-valid-reason>'

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:43 AM

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11 ^

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lol

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nah i do understand big networks like hypixel

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they are also stay in old versions

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they also*

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why are

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fuck

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:43 AM

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I would HIGHLY suggest updating. It's not worth the hassle supporting that old versions and you won't get any support on them either from almost anyone. Make a poll asking your player base and ask for an upgrade.

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:44 AM

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i ask java related questons more then the api =/

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wait ill send u

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what players think

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:44 AM

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also, Hypixel started on 1.8.8 so they still support it, but they have a full custom api, not spigot/paper.

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:44 AM

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i want to update so badly because new versions allow multi textures over armor

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:44 AM

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and 1.6.4 to 1.8.8 is already a big difference

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:44 AM

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pastel imp also, Hypixel started on 1.8.8 so they still support it, but they have a full cu...

i dont really use spigot api i use nms..

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:44 AM

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💀

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:45 AM

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either i dont use spigot

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itts bukkit ;O

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but same thing + -

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im not sure what they added when forked bukkit (spigot)

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:45 AM

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yeah I am going out of the convo, this is really triggering me, I can't handle people who refuse to update because X and Y.

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You should do some research. That's what I suggest you doing.

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:47 AM

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nah i want to update to 1.12 at least

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because it allows to display multi textures

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at one itemstack

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like using durability

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:47 AM

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if you are going to update from 1.6.4 to something then update directly to latest

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simple.

slate elk Jun 19, 2023, 9:49 AM

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more ram will be consumed

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as well minecraft is single theard

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server will blow up on 200 player on new version in single world of 1000x1000

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but letts forget tthatt conversattion itts off ttopic

sturdy zinc Jun 19, 2023, 11:02 AM

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edit link missing on overview page on Spigot?

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also all my resources the update button is this now

distant sun Jun 19, 2023, 11:11 AM

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do what it says lol

sturdy zinc Jun 19, 2023, 11:11 AM

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ok, so Spigot wants to confirm its me a better way?

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now I need to wait to see if I did it right

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:04 PM

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Has anyone ever had an issue with sqlite and an InstantiationError?
java.lang.InstantiationError: org.sqlite.jdbc4.JDBC4Connection
The stacktrace points to the JDBC4Connection line

final Path path = new File(plugin.getDataFolder(), "plugin.db").toPath();

...

final SQLiteConfig config = new SQLiteConfig();
config.enforceForeignKeys(true);
config.enableRecursiveTriggers(true);

// vvvv THIS LINE
return new JDBC4Connection("jdbc:sqlite:" + path, path.toString(), config.toProperties());

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:05 PM

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blissful sluice Has anyone ever had an issue with sqlite and an InstantiationError? `java.lang.I...

Is there anything else to the error? Like a caused by thing
I haven't gotten this error before but I hope there's more to it

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:05 PM

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There's nothing at all more to it and that's what's so damn confusing

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:06 PM

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Maybe u can find using where the stack trace came from

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Like where in the sqlite code it came from

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Idk

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:06 PM

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Doesn't even give me that

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:06 PM

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Wdym

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I mean like where the stack trace is coming from

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Idk I havent used sqlite so I can't really identify if u coded it wrong

compact perchBOT Jun 19, 2023, 12:09 PM

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📋 Your paste, mitch_mishyy

https://paste.helpch.at/egihilijiw

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:09 PM

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fuck pasted wrong

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https://paste.helpch.at/eyecalikar.less

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the rest of the stacktrace is just standard loading the plugin from Paper/Spigot's side

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ConnectionFactory.java:66 is the instantiation of the JDBC4Connection shown in the snippet

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:11 PM

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Oh

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:11 PM

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Yeah there's like no information at all to go off of

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:11 PM

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So the class isn't loading at all

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I think?

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For some reason

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I'm not sure

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Since it's not pointing to any constructor or anything

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:12 PM

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wdym

drifting aspen Jun 19, 2023, 12:12 PM

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From javadocs:

Thrown when an application tries to use the Java new construct to instantiate an abstract class or an interface.

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:12 PM

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I've been playing around with gradle and shadow thinking it's an issue of either of those not including the files but i've checked, they're all there

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But that'd error out at compile, and I get no compile errors

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Not to mention, that class isn't abstract or an interface

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it's the standard sqlite-jdbc library:

drifting aspen Jun 19, 2023, 12:14 PM

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How does ConnectionFactory:66 look?

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:14 PM

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R u relocating

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:14 PM

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blissful sluice Has anyone ever had an issue with sqlite and an InstantiationError? `java.lang.I...

@drifting aspen

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:14 PM

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half harness R u relocating

Tried with and without relocation, no change

drifting aspen Jun 19, 2023, 12:15 PM

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You sure you should directly instantiate the connection like that?

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:16 PM

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It's based off of how LuckPerms does it

drifting aspen Jun 19, 2023, 12:16 PM

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See: https://www.sqlitetutorial.net/sqlite-java/sqlite-jdbc-driver/

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:17 PM

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https://github.com/LuckPerms/LuckPerms/blob/9f1e74fa7c5ce8226d92a9ab02aa383111c6c461/common/src/main/java/me/lucko/luckperms/common/storage/implementation/sql/connection/file/SqliteConnectionFactory.java#L58

They use reflection/class loading stuff because of how they handle loading dependencies at runtime, but unless I'm missing something it's otherwise identical

GitHub

LuckPerms/common/src/main/java/me/lucko/luckperms/common/storage/im...

A permissions plugin for Minecraft servers. Contribute to LuckPerms/LuckPerms development by creating an account on GitHub.

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:18 PM

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I'd go with kyngs ^

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:18 PM

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I'll try the DriverManager version but I've used this method before and never had an issue so idk what the deal is now

drifting aspen Jun 19, 2023, 12:18 PM

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In my plugin I'm also loading dependencies at runtime, yet I'm using pretty much the same way as the tutorial I sent

ruby dew Jun 19, 2023, 12:19 PM

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half harness I'd go with kyngs ^

keep your ninja goddamn save

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:19 PM

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Wha

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What

ruby dew Jun 19, 2023, 12:19 PM

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what kyngs stand for?

drifting aspen Jun 19, 2023, 12:19 PM

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:(

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:19 PM

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Ask @drifting aspen ...

ruby dew Jun 19, 2023, 12:19 PM

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oh lol

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oh hey

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i guess i just cracked a very stupid joke there ignore pls

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:20 PM

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ok somehow the DriverManager technique worked

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:20 PM

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So Mitch
Once you try that out
Let us know how it turns out

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Oh ok

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:20 PM

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I don't understand howtf but ok

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:21 PM

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I think that directly instantiating is like internal usage

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And shouldn't be used unless for a specific reason

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:21 PM

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I'd used that method before without issue too which is what's confusing

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:21 PM

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But it's just a guess

drifting aspen Jun 19, 2023, 12:21 PM

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half harness I think that directly instantiating is like internal usage

I'm honestly quite surprised it works for luckperms

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:21 PM

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Hey I mean

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:21 PM

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drifting aspen I'm honestly quite surprised it works for luckperms

yeah this is why im confused

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:21 PM

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It's lucko

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He can do anything 🙃

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:22 PM

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only thing I can think of is maybe it has something to do with it not being pre-loaded in the class path?

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or something weird

drifting aspen Jun 19, 2023, 12:22 PM

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You should use the DriverManager way with any JDBC connection

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:22 PM

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Might use some reflection

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Or smtj

drifting aspen Jun 19, 2023, 12:22 PM

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blissful sluice only thing I can think of is maybe it has something to do with it not being pre-...

Nah, that should throw ClassNotFoundException

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:23 PM

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drifting aspen You should use the DriverManager way with any JDBC connection

As I said, i've never had to with sqlite before when I've used LPs method, and I've never normally needed to use the DriverManager way outside of sqlite cus normally I'd use Hikari or something as a datasource

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now let's see if i can turn on relocation and stuff

drifting aspen Jun 19, 2023, 12:24 PM

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I mean, I also use Hikari for SQLite

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:25 PM

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Btw why not use spigots libraries feature?

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If ur on 1.17+

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I think

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:25 PM

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not on 1.17+

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:25 PM

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Oh ok

ruby dew Jun 19, 2023, 12:25 PM

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what exactly is modernpluginloadingstrategy btw

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i see it everywhere on minehut servers

drifting aspen Jun 19, 2023, 12:26 PM

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Paper's way of loading plugins

ruby dew Jun 19, 2023, 12:26 PM

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kinda ruined it on minehut tho

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:27 PM

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ruby dew what exactly is modernpluginloadingstrategy btw

What is that

ruby dew Jun 19, 2023, 12:27 PM

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sth i saw on minehut paper servers

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:27 PM

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Ik paper has paper-plugins but it's not called that

ruby dew Jun 19, 2023, 12:27 PM

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it keeps making plugman reloading impossible

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:27 PM

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Lol

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:28 PM

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Ok seems to be working, now time to see if my plugin actually works outside of that xD

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i need to workout what the thing is for hot-swapping in a dev environment, i've forgotten

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:30 PM

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It won't work in this case tho

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It doesn't support adding new classes and methods last time I used it

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Which was a while ago

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:31 PM

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I'm testing the plugin itself now, not the sqlite thing; that seems to have resolved, for now anyway

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:31 PM

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Long while ago

drifting aspen Jun 19, 2023, 12:31 PM

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ruby dew it keeps making plugman reloading impossible

Oh no, that's so horrible! It doesn't allow you to break plugins!

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:32 PM

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I'm the weird sort of person to write basically an entire plugin without testing it once and then test it all at once

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:32 PM

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Not weird imo
Unless we both weird

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:33 PM

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not impossible

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:33 PM

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Lol

drifting aspen Jun 19, 2023, 12:33 PM

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I categorically reject unit testing

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:33 PM

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I think I have 2 projects with unit testing

blissful sluice Jun 19, 2023, 12:33 PM

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i don't even understand how to unit test with MC

half harness Jun 19, 2023, 12:33 PM

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Oh I have unit testing in non mc libraries

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But ig u could mock test

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But difficult for medium to big plugins

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Although there's things like MockBukkit to help although I haven't used it before so idk how well it works

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 2:18 PM

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anyone ever used https://gitrows.com/ ?

GitRows

Git as a Database

Get, Put and Deliver Data with Git Repositories - Use Git as a Database

lavish notch Jun 19, 2023, 2:58 PM

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eyesshaking

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 3:52 PM

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lavish notch <a:eyesshaking:858608484039262229>

what

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👀

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don't wanna use it as an actual db lol

#

more like CMS lol

cinder flare Jun 19, 2023, 4:34 PM

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just use a CMS lol

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 5:03 PM

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Yeah but here is the thing, it's supposed to be an open collaborative project

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and it's hard to do that with a limited 2-3 user cms lol

cinder flare Jun 19, 2023, 5:12 PM

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2-3 user cms? just use any open source cms

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completely free, as many users as you want, etc.

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 5:43 PM

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self hosted though I assume

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and it's more the thing of having triage and the PR feature

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etc

rotund egret Jun 19, 2023, 5:46 PM

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Github

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Free, no user limit, issue triage, pr feature.

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 6:07 PM

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exactly

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although, trying to figure out if that was sarcasm

rotund egret Jun 19, 2023, 6:17 PM

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Are you trying to find alternatives?

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Oh you're currently on a cms. I think I'm just confused.

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 6:43 PM

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yeah I am on cosmicjs cms and probs going to github

pastel imp Jun 19, 2023, 9:11 PM

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is Fundamentals too big of a name for a plugin?

#

(Another Essentials Alternative)

blissful sluice Jun 20, 2023, 3:14 AM

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Anyone know any alternatives to Guava Table that supports concurrent maps?

inner umbra Jun 20, 2023, 3:17 AM

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pastel imp is Fundamentals too big of a name for a plugin?

Sounds good but pretty sure its already used isn't it?

pastel imp Jun 20, 2023, 5:08 AM

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inner umbra Sounds good but pretty sure its already used isn't it?

yesish, years old, outdated and abandoned craftbukkit plugin

potent nest Jun 20, 2023, 6:04 AM

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blissful sluice Anyone know any alternatives to Guava Table that supports concurrent maps?

A database

blissful sluice Jun 20, 2023, 6:04 AM

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wot

glossy crane Jun 20, 2023, 8:42 AM

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How do you make the font larger

remote goblet Jun 20, 2023, 10:29 AM

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in what

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microsoft word?

ruby dew Jun 20, 2023, 12:27 PM

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how has java changed for the past few years? like the major changes you guys deem useful?

agile galleon Jun 20, 2023, 12:51 PM

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Like literally 3 new versions or wdym

prisma wave Jun 20, 2023, 3:36 PM

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records & sealed classes go hard

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Pattern matching (will) go hard

pastel imp Jun 20, 2023, 4:01 PM

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using records for configs sounds pog now that I think about it

cinder flare Jun 20, 2023, 4:16 PM

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oh yeah dude

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that's what my favorite kotlin config library does, you just define a nested data class with a bunch of data classes in it and it converts em super nice

agile galleon Jun 20, 2023, 4:25 PM

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lmao i have no idea how i thought they meant minecraft java

drifting aspen Jun 20, 2023, 4:28 PM

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dw, I thought the same at first...

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Then I noticed this ain't #minecraft

wind patio Jun 20, 2023, 6:09 PM

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prisma wave records & sealed classes go hard

just use lombok
@Getter
@Setter
@Builder
easy

potent nest Jun 20, 2023, 6:12 PM

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and miss all the good features

pastel imp Jun 20, 2023, 9:22 PM

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wind patio just use lombok @Getter @Setter @Builder easy

can you like, click this pretty button?

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🙂

sweet cipher Jun 21, 2023, 2:42 AM

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Does the PlayerMoveEvent not get called for every mouse movement?
The packet gets sent much more often than the PlayerMoveEvent

inner umbra Jun 21, 2023, 2:44 AM

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sweet cipher Does the `PlayerMoveEvent` not get called for every mouse movement? The packet g...

Its limted to 20 I think

#

per second

sweet cipher Jun 21, 2023, 2:46 AM

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Rip thanks, guess I'll just have to use the packet

inner umbra Jun 21, 2023, 2:46 AM

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Also doesn't work if you're a passenger. Unless that has been fixed.

drifting aspen Jun 21, 2023, 4:40 AM

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sweet cipher Rip thanks, guess I'll just have to use the packet

Are you sure that'll help? I think that the notchian client sends it once per tick ~~if the location has changed~~ even if the client is stationary.

sweet cipher Jun 21, 2023, 4:41 AM

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The packet is definitely sent more often

drifting aspen Jun 21, 2023, 4:43 AM

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Citing wiki.vg:

Vanilla clients will send Move Player Position once every 20 ticks even for a stationary player.

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It kinda doesn't make sense to send it multiple times per tick, considering the server process the changes each tick

sweet cipher Jun 21, 2023, 4:45 AM

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I don’t need it multiple times per tick, it’s just that the PlayerMoveEvent doesn’t fire for small changes in the mouse

sweet cipher Jun 21, 2023, 4:46 AM

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drifting aspen Citing wiki.vg: ``` Vanilla clients will send Move Player Position once every 20...

I’m listening to move and rotation

pastel imp Jun 21, 2023, 4:56 AM

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confused do you want or not to check for rotation?

sweet cipher Jun 21, 2023, 5:02 AM

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Yes

drifting aspen Jun 21, 2023, 5:28 AM

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sweet cipher I don’t need it multiple times per tick, it’s just that the PlayerMoveEvent does...

That's intended behavior

hard dagger Jun 21, 2023, 5:33 AM

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prisma wave Pattern matching (will) go hard

honestly not as hard as i wouldve hoped

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you cant return to exit early in a switch expression

#

its rly annoying cuz in a lota cases u might wanna do like

var message = switch (result) {
    case Success -> { return; }
    case Error(var message) -> message;
}

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or stuff like that

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im also pretty sure cuz of weird scoping rules u cant use message

wind patio Jun 21, 2023, 5:36 AM

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hard dagger its rly annoying cuz in a lota cases u might wanna do like ```java var message =...

this just looks cursed

hard dagger Jun 21, 2023, 5:37 AM

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yeah not being able to just use return statements is rly annoying as well

wind patio Jun 21, 2023, 5:38 AM

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just enjoy the new feature instead of complainin it doesnt do x fingerguns

hard dagger Jun 21, 2023, 5:39 AM

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good solution

wind patio Jun 21, 2023, 5:43 AM

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feature doesnt exist => no complaints
feature gets added => nuuhhh itzz bad!

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https://tenor.com/view/get-real-gif-24964437

Tenor

hard dagger Jun 21, 2023, 5:44 AM

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wind patio >> feature doesnt exist => no complaints >> feature gets added => nuuhhh itzz ba...

im not saying its bad

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not as hard as i wouldve hoped

wind patio Jun 21, 2023, 5:44 AM

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Im just saying how generally people react to new stuff

rotund egret Jun 21, 2023, 5:48 AM

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Is that your new favorite gif or something?

wind patio Jun 21, 2023, 5:48 AM

#

rotund egret Is that your new favorite gif or something?

https://tenor.com/view/duck-shake-gif-25984885

Tenor

rotund egret Jun 21, 2023, 5:49 AM

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Perfect for the jeep

hard dagger Jun 21, 2023, 5:57 AM

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how do i get rid of this new gh ui

#

its so ugly

#

nvm

#

i needed to click the disable button apparently

potent nest Jun 21, 2023, 6:39 AM

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hard dagger yeah not being able to just use return statements is rly annoying as well

you can, but you can't in switch expressions

#

and I'd say it makes sense to be rather conservative with adding new features like that, because it opens a large can of worms with limited benefit

quaint isle Jun 21, 2023, 7:17 AM

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Some mc server hosting company made a video about my smol plugin 🥺 🥺
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7jVPIfzuEg

#

I am this (🤏) close to reaching PAPI-level legend status 😎

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What do I do with all this clout now, should I publish my own ebook?

#

pastel imp Jun 21, 2023, 8:16 AM

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bruh what

#

where is that

prisma wave Jun 21, 2023, 10:03 AM

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hard dagger its rly annoying cuz in a lota cases u might wanna do like ```java var message =...

Yeah cuz they’re expressions not statements

#

Sure kotlin can but statements bad anyway

ruby dew Jun 21, 2023, 10:17 AM

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is there a spigot update tracker of some sort?

mental trench Jun 21, 2023, 11:02 AM

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mmmm wdym

steel heart Jun 21, 2023, 12:07 PM

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prisma wave Yeah cuz they’re expressions not statements

Don’t you have like yield for that shit tho in Java?

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(iirc @hard dagger )

distant sun Jun 21, 2023, 12:10 PM

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I think he meant to exit the method if you are using the expression to assign a value to a variable

#

E.g. if the value is invalid, instead of assigning null to the variable and then do a null check, you return directly

steel heart Jun 21, 2023, 12:11 PM

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That the expression is inside a function and u wanna return the function inside the expression?

wind patio Jun 21, 2023, 12:11 PM

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🥴

distant sun Jun 21, 2023, 12:11 PM

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Perhaps

steel heart Jun 21, 2023, 12:12 PM

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Else yield should work pretty much :3

distant sun Jun 21, 2023, 12:13 PM

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yield will probably only exit the expression, not the method

steel heart Jun 21, 2023, 12:13 PM

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If you wanna “early return” inside a case of a switch expression

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Yep

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It would

distant sun Jun 21, 2023, 12:14 PM

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Anyways isnt like I will use java 21 at work anytime soon kek

drifting aspen Jun 21, 2023, 12:15 PM

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you still at 8?

steel heart Jun 21, 2023, 12:15 PM

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distant sun Anyways isnt like I will use java 21 at work anytime soon <:kek:7616660418726462...

fr Okayge

steel heart Jun 21, 2023, 12:16 PM

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drifting aspen you still at 8?

Think 17 is our standard at least

drifting aspen Jun 21, 2023, 12:17 PM

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that's good

#

upgrading from 17 to 21 shouldn't be that hard

steel heart Jun 21, 2023, 12:18 PM

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Yeah I was just a bit disappointed

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Thought we would get structured concurrency api fully delivered in 21

distant sun Jun 21, 2023, 12:32 PM

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drifting aspen you still at 8?

Ye ofc

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Though we dont develop software so it is not relevant, we test software

wind patio Jun 21, 2023, 12:40 PM

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⚠️ pooper old version user alert ⚠️

#

imagine not hopping onto the latest software version exact moment it gets released

cinder flare Jun 21, 2023, 12:42 PM

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bro's on the bleeding edge

wind patio Jun 21, 2023, 12:42 PM

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⚠️ bleeding edge or nothing at all ⚠️

prisma wave Jun 21, 2023, 12:50 PM

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steel heart Don’t you have like `yield` for that shit tho in Java?

Yeah yield is just for expressions it doesn’t return from the whole method

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It’s a little annoying not being able to early return but also i reckon it might allow better performance

steel heart Jun 21, 2023, 12:51 PM

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is that a kt thing?

prisma wave Jun 21, 2023, 12:51 PM

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yes

steel heart Jun 21, 2023, 12:51 PM

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ah I c

prisma wave Jun 21, 2023, 12:51 PM

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but my theory here is that kt when has to just compile to if/else

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whereas java switch can always be switch bytecode

steel heart Jun 21, 2023, 12:52 PM

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yea sounds reasonable

prisma wave Jun 21, 2023, 12:56 PM

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ok java switch with constants is just a lookup table yeah

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if you use pattern matching it does some funky MethodHandle stuff like with lambdas, but it's still also a lookup table

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kotlin is being annoying because it's actually optimising things

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YES i was right

#

fun main(o: Any) {
    val x: String = when(o) {
        is Int -> o.toString()
        else -> "what"
    }
    println(x)
}
``` just compiles to if/else

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though maybe thats for compatibility

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yeah even with java 19, dunno if you can enable java preview things

prisma wave Jun 21, 2023, 1:05 PM

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prisma wave It’s a little annoying not being able to early return but also i reckon it might...

but also this probably isnt true

ocean quartz Jun 21, 2023, 1:47 PM

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prisma wave ```kt fun main(o: Any) { val x: String = when(o) { is Int -> o.toStr...

Only for small when, if you have more cases it'll compite into a switch

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Compiles into a var that gets reasigned in the switch, for your case, if it's more than 3 I believe

prisma wave Jun 21, 2023, 1:50 PM

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are you sure

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https://godbolt.org/z/s93fP9T8G

potent nest Jun 21, 2023, 1:57 PM

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it can only compile to one of the switch instructions if the value to switch on can be somehow mapped to ints

prisma wave Jun 21, 2023, 1:59 PM

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prisma wave if you use pattern matching it does some funky MethodHandle stuff like with lamb...

^^ which is what this does in the java preview

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i guess kotlin could do the same too

distant sun Jun 21, 2023, 4:37 PM

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Ohio moment https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/14f881o/itsofficialjavaisworsethanhitler/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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tribal plinth Jun 21, 2023, 7:06 PM

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programmer humor forced to reopen? 🫡

drifting aspen Jun 21, 2023, 7:28 PM

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indeed

pastel imp Jun 21, 2023, 8:44 PM

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uhm quick question, for instance, using Folia, when do I know if what I am executing should be ran at the location, at entity or whatever? I am a bit confused on each methods usage situations

crude cloud Jun 21, 2023, 9:02 PM

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if you're gonna do something on the entity, use the entity scheduler
if you're gonna do something at a specific location/block/chunk, use the region scheduler
if you're gonna do something that affects global stuff like, weather, time of day, etc, use the global region scheduler
if you're gonna do something async, use the async scheduler

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although if you're certain what you're gonna do doesn't need scheduling (for example, changing a player's health in a player event), just do it

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events will be dispatched on the region the action takes place, so for some cases you don't need to do any scheduling

half harness Jun 21, 2023, 9:11 PM

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#1113758470689263616 message
7+ years of development experience but started learning 5 years ago thonking
making minigames using like skript or smth for 2 years?

crude cloud Jun 21, 2023, 9:12 PM

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dkim

half harness Jun 21, 2023, 9:12 PM

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hi

crude cloud Jun 21, 2023, 9:12 PM

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hi

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how's your day going?

half harness Jun 21, 2023, 9:13 PM

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It's going pretty well
Trying to learn android development

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How's your day going Emily

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🥲

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Awesome

rotund egret Jun 21, 2023, 9:14 PM

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me when I wait 1 (one) single minute

half harness Jun 21, 2023, 9:15 PM

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rotund egret me when I wait 1 (one) single minute

Hi zodd

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how's your day going

rotund egret Jun 21, 2023, 9:16 PM

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Days going ok

half harness Jun 21, 2023, 9:16 PM

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Nice

rotund egret Jun 21, 2023, 9:16 PM

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My shelf is almost finished, I just need to stain the wood

half harness Jun 21, 2023, 9:16 PM

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ooooooooo

crude cloud Jun 21, 2023, 9:17 PM

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half harness How's your day going Emily

it's alright

half harness Jun 21, 2023, 9:17 PM

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DIY shelf?

rotund egret Jun 21, 2023, 9:17 PM

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I used french cleats for the "hanger" part

crude cloud Jun 21, 2023, 9:17 PM

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have this https://fxtwitter.com/TheDocktah/status/1671162687437541376?t=c8nRcd7pxEJymuQ9_1TMNg&s=19

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i used my best at that "post your favorites touhou memes" already but i got plenty more

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rotund egret Jun 21, 2023, 9:17 PM

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Kinda

crude cloud Jun 21, 2023, 9:17 PM

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dkim are you okay

half harness Jun 21, 2023, 9:17 PM

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yes

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I am okay

rotund egret Jun 21, 2023, 9:17 PM

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Did you look up the cleat?

half harness Jun 21, 2023, 9:18 PM

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mhm

rotund egret Jun 21, 2023, 9:18 PM

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They're nice 😌

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Using an old pallet for it, so the stain should looks nice.

half harness Jun 21, 2023, 9:20 PM

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https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2023/
😮

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gusty glen Jun 21, 2023, 11:08 PM

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hard dagger its rly annoying cuz in a lota cases u might wanna do like ```java var message =...

how about this

val message = (result as? Error)?.message ?: return

rotund egret Jun 21, 2023, 11:18 PM

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That looks like kotlin?

half harness Jun 21, 2023, 11:24 PM

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💀

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kotlin ftw

obtuse gale Jun 22, 2023, 3:39 AM

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Hi. Is there a plugin that can disabled the nether and end and then enable them if u buy something trying to make a gui

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but idk a plugin that will work

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@obtuse gale if u respond pls

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ty

half harness Jun 22, 2023, 3:45 AM

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obtuse gale Hi. Is there a plugin that can disabled the nether and end and then enable them ...

This isn't a direct solution but note that you can use a plugin like DeluxeMenus
So all you need is a plugin that can toggle the nether and end (since you can use DeluxeMenus for the GUI)

Also note that this can be toggled in bukkit.yml and server.properties, but requires a server restart

And lastly, next time please ask in #general-plugins, #1007620980627230730, or #minecraft 👍

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I don't think there's a public plugin for disabling the nether or end though because there's little use-case and the alternatives I mentioned already exist

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but just wanted to point out deluxemenus in case you do find one

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wait I misunderstood

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buy something trying to make GUI?

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wdym by that?

obtuse gale Jun 22, 2023, 4:03 AM

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half harness > *buy* something trying to make GUI?

i will show u one sec

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https://paste.helpch.at/ubivasoyoc.vbnet

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I want the world to be disabled at first then if they buy the end/nether it will open for them but only them.

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Until other people buy it

half harness Jun 22, 2023, 4:05 AM

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are these specific portals? or an smp-like server where ppl can make their own portals

obtuse gale Jun 22, 2023, 4:05 AM

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half harness are these specific portals? or an smp-like server where ppl can make their own p...

its a smp server where people can make their own portals.

pastel imp Jun 22, 2023, 8:04 AM

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crude cloud if you're gonna do something on the entity, use the entity scheduler if you're g...

what if I have to do stuff on both, entity, chunk and whatever, aka in several stuff, do I just run each specific part in their dedicated scheduler?

distant sun Jun 22, 2023, 3:00 PM

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is material theme broken for someone else? Some things have the accent color and they are not supposed to

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this is how it looks if I switch to a random theme and back to the one I use

sly sonnet Jun 22, 2023, 3:05 PM

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make it a bit darker

distant sun Jun 22, 2023, 3:18 PM

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make what darker?

pastel imp Jun 22, 2023, 7:43 PM

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anyone ever used https://vaadin.com/ ?

Vaadin | Discover the Web App Framework Built for Java

Build modern Java web apps faster with Vaadin. Our framework includes a large library of UI components and is designed for apps with a Java backend.

distant sun Jun 22, 2023, 7:51 PM

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@static zealot Vadim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N62wiVO5-K8

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fleet jewel Jun 23, 2023, 6:44 AM

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distant sun is material theme broken for someone else? Some things have the accent color and...

works fine for me

rotund egret Jun 23, 2023, 6:47 AM

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Skill issue

distant sun Jun 23, 2023, 6:47 AM

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ugh

fleet jewel Jun 23, 2023, 6:51 AM

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distant sun <:ugh:887043862923710524>

is it still broken? sneaky_simon

distant sun Jun 23, 2023, 6:52 AM

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Yeah

soft umbra Jun 23, 2023, 10:52 AM

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distant sun Yeah

https://discord.com/channels/164280494874165248/1121727974207656026 Check this

distant sun Jun 23, 2023, 10:54 AM

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No need to ping me twice, just wait

runic parcel Jun 23, 2023, 2:15 PM

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does it make anyone else feel icky when you do things like getServer() instead of this.getServer()

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it just feels wrong

crude cloud Jun 23, 2023, 2:31 PM

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not really

remote goblet Jun 23, 2023, 2:56 PM

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yes

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not doing this where possible makes me feel icky

wind patio Jun 23, 2023, 4:08 PM

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sometimes I use this. something I don't, I do not care cuz I am a big chad

fleet jewel Jun 23, 2023, 4:37 PM

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@distant sun can you help out this dude https://discord.com/channels/164280494874165248/1121665184314949813

distant sun Jun 23, 2023, 4:40 PM

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stop tagging me wth

fleet jewel Jun 23, 2023, 4:42 PM

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distant sun stop tagging me wth

ahh alright, apologies

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oops, forgot to turn off reply ping 😵‍💫

distant sun Jun 23, 2023, 4:53 PM

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https://builtbybit.com/resources/itsmytraining-premium-prompt.27762/?ref=discover paying for chatgpt kek

BuiltByBit (MC-Market)

ItsMyTraining - Premium Prompt

ChatGPT Prompt allowing you to learn the language of your choice

fleet jewel Jun 23, 2023, 5:11 PM

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distant sun https://builtbybit.com/resources/itsmytraining-premium-prompt.27762/?ref=discove...

bro wth 😂

drifting aspen Jun 23, 2023, 5:14 PM

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@lime gate how do you accomplish changing the size of the NPCs?

prisma wave Jun 23, 2023, 5:43 PM

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distant sun https://builtbybit.com/resources/itsmytraining-premium-prompt.27762/?ref=discove...

3/4 of the examples are just JavaScript lmfao

distant sun Jun 23, 2023, 5:44 PM

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I wonder if all you get is a txt file with the prompts 🤣

prisma wave Jun 23, 2023, 5:44 PM

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Probably lmao

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There’s a whole market for prompts it’s very weird

distant sun Jun 23, 2023, 5:47 PM

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🤣

neon anvil Jun 23, 2023, 7:01 PM

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Prompt sir

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im using google font

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oh nvm you mean logo

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I'm using Blockbench xD

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yess

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https://i.imgur.com/RrLbmhM.png

obtuse gale Jun 24, 2023, 12:53 AM

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I need a little help. I'm working on a rank gui to purchase ranks on my server. I want to make it so you have to be a certain rank in order to purchase the next rank (so players cant skip ranks and just purchase the highest rank) I'm using deluxemenus

flint crow Jun 24, 2023, 12:56 AM

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obtuse gale I need a little help. I'm working on a rank gui to purchase ranks on my server. ...

    view_requirement:
      requirements:
        rank:
          type: "string equals"
          input: "%luckperms_in_group_mystic%"
          output: "yes"

thats an example of a view requirements in a rank upgrades menu i have in dm

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it ll check i the user has the rank mystic which is my first don rank

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so the price for the rest goes down etc

obtuse gale Jun 24, 2023, 12:59 AM

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Okay thats what I had in mind I just needed to see a visual

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thank you

flint crow Jun 24, 2023, 1:01 AM

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np :d

obtuse gale Jun 24, 2023, 3:20 AM

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left_click_commands:
- '[console] eco take %player_name% 135000'
- '[console] lp user %player_name% parent add master'
- '[message] &a(!) You have successfully purchased the &#8000ff&n[Master]
&r&arank!'
left_click_requirement:
expression: '%vault_eco_balance% > 135000'
filler_item:
material: GRAY_STAINED_GLASS_PANE
display_name: ' '
slots:
- 0-9
- 17-27

Im having an issue now with the filler not working in my gui. Did I write the filler right?

pastel imp Jun 24, 2023, 3:40 PM

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any ideas why the src is not showing?

prisma wave Jun 24, 2023, 3:41 PM

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remove and re-add the project in settings > project structure

pastel imp Jun 24, 2023, 3:43 PM

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prisma wave remove and re-add the project in settings > project structure

Didn't work? Unless I am doing smt wrong?

prisma wave Jun 24, 2023, 3:45 PM

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probably

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i usually just completely delete the .idea & remove and re-add the project when it fucks up

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it's a bit of a pain to fix

half harness Jun 24, 2023, 3:57 PM

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Prob have to set source set

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If that doesn't work then @pastel imp right click the java folder in src/main/Java and set source set or smth

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Idk

pastel imp Jun 24, 2023, 4:03 PM

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deleting .idea kinda worked

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but now it looks like this?

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should be java icon

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lol

prisma wave Jun 24, 2023, 4:04 PM

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yeah do what dkim said

pastel imp Jun 24, 2023, 4:05 PM

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there is no option to set source

prisma wave Jun 24, 2023, 4:07 PM

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Mark Directory As > Java source

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something like that

pastel imp Jun 24, 2023, 4:08 PM

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Sources Root

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yeah thx

drifting aspen Jun 24, 2023, 4:09 PM

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prisma wave i usually just completely delete the .idea & remove and re-add the project when ...

I've found out that opening the gradle tab and pressing "Reload all gradle projects" usually works

prisma wave Jun 24, 2023, 4:12 PM

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depends whats fucked up

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but yeah that does fix it a lot of the time

distant sun Jun 24, 2023, 9:12 PM

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pastel imp Jun 24, 2023, 9:31 PM

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Any ideas how paper plugins work? like bootstrapping and loaders, I read the docs but failed to see the use case...
Are these dependency things like checking if PAPI is in the server or what exactly? I am a bit confused overall. Do I need the onEnable method if I use loaders? etc.

prisma wave Jun 24, 2023, 9:33 PM

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i mean

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the docs kinda say that bootstrappers & stuff dont do anything atm, theyre to support future things

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but they give a good example of downloading dependencies before the plugin is initialised

cinder flare Jun 24, 2023, 9:41 PM

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and having isolated classloaders so that you don't have to relocate every dependency and shit

pastel imp Jun 24, 2023, 9:59 PM

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prisma wave but they give a good example of downloading dependencies before the plugin is in...

downloading? like spigot's libraries thing does?

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or what exactly?

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and are these a replacement for the bukkit javaplugin or do I still need that one

obtuse gale Jun 24, 2023, 10:02 PM

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https://mclo.gs/TmWzMVX
I need help. I just wrote this config for a menu and its not working at all

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its for a ranks gui menu for deluxemenus

prisma wave Jun 24, 2023, 10:05 PM

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pastel imp downloading? like spigot's libraries thing does?

yes

prisma wave Jun 24, 2023, 10:06 PM

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pastel imp and are these a replacement for the bukkit javaplugin or do I still need that on...

half-replacement

prisma wave Jun 24, 2023, 10:06 PM

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prisma wave yes

man a pdm revival with this would go crazy

pastel imp Jun 24, 2023, 10:06 PM

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prisma wave half-replacement

elaborate please?

pastel imp Jun 24, 2023, 10:06 PM

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prisma wave man a pdm revival with this would go crazy

pdm = ?

prisma wave Jun 24, 2023, 10:07 PM

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https://github.com/knightzmc/pdm

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when i peaked as a developer

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and then fell off

prisma wave Jun 24, 2023, 10:08 PM

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pastel imp elaborate please?

i mean i dont know for sure but the fact that it still says JavaPlugin implies it'll still be the same JavaPlugin class, maybe with a few breaking changes

pastel imp Jun 24, 2023, 10:08 PM

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prisma wave yes

wait wouldn't this make it a requirement to have access to internet? Making offline/local servers unable to use it?

prisma wave Jun 24, 2023, 10:08 PM

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possibly

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i feel like you're misunderstanding me though

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that's one of the potential uses, it's not like it's made specifically for that

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but also dependency downloading is already a thing

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there are various workarounds for offline usage

pastel imp Jun 24, 2023, 10:09 PM

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yeah true

distant sun Jun 24, 2023, 10:09 PM

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pastel imp wait wouldn't this make it a requirement to have access to internet? Making offl...

You can just give them a zip with the jars
Also, I personally believe that the offline servers thing is just a dumb rule of spigot

prisma wave Jun 24, 2023, 10:09 PM

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indeed

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which hanger will (half) fix

distant sun Jun 24, 2023, 10:10 PM

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Wdym

crude cloud Jun 24, 2023, 10:10 PM

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isn't that a rule only for paid plugins regarding their DRM?

pastel imp Jun 24, 2023, 10:10 PM

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distant sun You can just give them a zip with the jars Also, I personally believe that the o...

wait what rule?

distant sun Jun 24, 2023, 10:11 PM

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crude cloud isn't that a rule only for paid plugins regarding their DRM?

It also affects plugins that download libraries at runtime iirc, idk if it matters if the plugin is free

prisma wave Jun 24, 2023, 10:11 PM

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distant sun Wdym

it wont have the downloading rule afaik, but it also doesnt allow premium plugins

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but tbh i wouldnt be surprised if spigot gets entirely phased out in the next few years

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hangar for most, bbb/polymart/whatever for premiums

distant sun Jun 24, 2023, 10:12 PM

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pastel imp wait what rule?

That servers need to be able to run offline 🤡

distant sun Jun 24, 2023, 10:12 PM

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prisma wave but tbh i wouldnt be surprised if spigot gets entirely phased out in the next fe...

After paper hard fork it will mostly disappear tbh

prisma wave Jun 24, 2023, 10:12 PM

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exactly

distant sun Jun 24, 2023, 10:14 PM

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distant sun It also affects plugins that download libraries at runtime iirc, idk if it matte...

I remember I once saw a discussion where it was mantioned that you should provide a zip with the jars or something like this

prisma wave Jun 24, 2023, 10:14 PM

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yeah thats the workaround

distant sun Jun 24, 2023, 10:14 PM

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Although, the server itself doesnt need internet connection, but you do (???)

prisma wave Jun 24, 2023, 10:15 PM

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because it's not 100% offline, it's some weird rule which means that workaround can exist

crude cloud Jun 24, 2023, 10:31 PM

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@distant sun i don't know where you got that rule from but it is not a thing, there is no mention of "offline" or "internet" in the regular resource guidelines, and the only mentions in the paid resource guidelines are about DRM, DRMs requiring internet connection are straight up prohibited and code requiring access to an external server must be fail-safe and the plugin should continue working somehow

distant sun Jun 24, 2023, 10:32 PM

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Man I swear this is mentioned somewhere ugh

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But yeah, looks like it is not on the resources guidelines, welp

pastel imp Jun 24, 2023, 10:35 PM

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distant sun That servers need to be able to run offline 🤡

by offline I meant like, localhost without access to internet

distant sun Jun 24, 2023, 10:36 PM

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Yeah I know

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I guess it was just a discussion ugh sorry

crude cloud Jun 24, 2023, 10:37 PM

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also that rule for paid plugins isn't so much about the mc server being offline, but the target server the plugin sends requests to being offline or failing in some other way

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you have bigger problems than a paid plugin not working if your mc server doesn't have an internet connection lol

distant sun Jun 24, 2023, 10:37 PM

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Yeah 🤣

hard dagger Jun 24, 2023, 10:45 PM

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pastel imp by offline I meant like, localhost without access to internet

So theyll have the internet to download the plugin but not install its dependencies?

pastel imp Jun 24, 2023, 11:05 PM

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hard dagger So theyll have the internet to download the plugin but not install its dependenc...

maybe they installed the plugin and are testing it in local in a plane?

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who knows

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or there is an internet outage where they live, and they wanna continue work?

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there are a few occasions where this could be an issue

hard dagger Jun 24, 2023, 11:06 PM

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theyre cached

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and paperclip also needs the internet

obtuse gale Jun 24, 2023, 11:29 PM

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I need help guys

oblique heath Jun 24, 2023, 11:29 PM

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ok

obtuse gale Jun 24, 2023, 11:29 PM

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https://mclo.gs/TmWzMVX This gui I made using deluxemenus isnt working and im not sure why

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im not getting any error in console its not loading at all

crude cloud Jun 24, 2023, 11:39 PM

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that's a question for #1007620980627230730 paperOhhh

obtuse gale Jun 24, 2023, 11:45 PM

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thank you my apologies

timber oak Jun 25, 2023, 4:27 PM

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Which plugin version does the big prison servers use? Most have compatiblity from 1.13 or so to 1.20 but yeah

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Does that mean they just use 1.20 api?

marble stream Jun 25, 2023, 4:53 PM

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Does anyone know how I can run code before the event happens?

prisma wave Jun 25, 2023, 4:53 PM

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what?

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what event

crude cloud Jun 25, 2023, 4:53 PM

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what are you trying to work around?

prisma wave Jun 25, 2023, 4:53 PM

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and event handlers already do happen before

crude cloud Jun 25, 2023, 4:53 PM

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eh...

prisma wave Jun 25, 2023, 4:53 PM

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but yeah ^^ more appropriate question

marble stream Jun 25, 2023, 4:54 PM

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Im trying to make it so the players sounds stop before they teleport, then they are teleported

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I have regional music that seems to overlap when they teleport

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    @EventHandler
    public void onTeleportResetSound(PlayerTeleportEvent event) {
        Player player = event.getPlayer();
        if(event.getPlayer().getLocation().getWorld().getName().equals("Hub")) {
            Location from = event.getFrom();
            Location to = event.getTo();
            event.setCancelled(true);
            player.stopSound(SoundCategory.AMBIENT);
            player.teleport(to);
        }
    }```
I've tried this but I'm getting a Teleport is unsafe message from another plugin

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(CMI)

crude cloud Jun 25, 2023, 4:55 PM

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don't teleport in the move/teleport event

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call event.setTo instead of cancelling

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wait what

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you're just teleporting to the same target location?

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what

marble stream Jun 25, 2023, 4:55 PM

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Yea im just trying to stop their sound right before they teleport to whatever

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it seems to do it after which stops the song from playing when they enter the region

crude cloud Jun 25, 2023, 4:56 PM

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well, the teleport event is called before the actual teleport happens

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i guess just, cancel and teleport 1 tick later

distant sun Jun 25, 2023, 5:07 PM

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simply cancelling the sound doesn't work?

distant sun Jun 25, 2023, 5:08 PM

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crude cloud i guess just, cancel and teleport 1 tick later

won't that fire the teleport event again?

crude cloud Jun 25, 2023, 5:22 PM

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oh yeah lol

sweet cipher Jun 25, 2023, 5:44 PM

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You'll probably have to use packets

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Wait does teleporting actually play a sound? I would assume it doesn't unless using an enderpearl

distant sun Jun 25, 2023, 5:50 PM

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probably other sounds, not caused by teleport

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but no, it doesn't

crude cloud Jun 25, 2023, 6:04 PM

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i mean, stopSound does pretty much just send a packet

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i suspect there's something with packet order processing on the client

distant sun Jun 25, 2023, 6:13 PM

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could delay that by a tick ig

crude cloud Jun 25, 2023, 6:57 PM

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well that's the thing, the sound has to be stopped first, that's why the suggested solution is to delay the teleport

ionic gust Jun 25, 2023, 7:26 PM

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i finally finished updating all 20 of my plugins (locally tho 😭)

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now i have to update them on 5 platforms each 🙃 (100 updates total)

rotund egret Jun 25, 2023, 8:18 PM

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When I create my own problems:

ionic gust Jun 25, 2023, 8:19 PM

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HEY

rotund egret Jun 25, 2023, 8:19 PM

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Just calling it like I see it 👀

sturdy zinc Jun 26, 2023, 2:09 AM

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what does this mean? §$2

half harness Jun 26, 2023, 2:12 AM

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sturdy zinc what does this mean? `§$2`

context?
The $2 could be a replacement for something - maybe the color?

sturdy zinc Jun 26, 2023, 2:13 AM

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replaceAll("(&([a-z0-9]))", "§$2")

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if that helps

half harness Jun 26, 2023, 2:14 AM

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ah it's getting the 2nd group I think

sturdy zinc Jun 26, 2023, 2:14 AM

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my guess it replaces all colors with dark green

half harness Jun 26, 2023, 2:14 AM

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from regex

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matches &[color code] and replaces it with §[color code]

sturdy zinc Jun 26, 2023, 2:14 AM

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I think, it's in my code of a plugin I took over

half harness Jun 26, 2023, 2:14 AM

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https://regex101.com/r/Gbu1ge/1

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here's an example usage

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note that the $2 isn't any like special java feature or anything, it's regex-specific

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$0 = whole match
$1 = first group
$2 = second group

sturdy zinc Jun 26, 2023, 2:22 AM

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code seems to work, even after I removed those lines

half harness Jun 26, 2023, 2:29 AM

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I mean you didn't send any lines but

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sure

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👍

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 8:09 AM

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someone give me names for configuration library

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 8:14 AM

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hard dagger someone give me names for configuration library

UwU configuration lib? link?!

inner umbra Jun 26, 2023, 8:14 AM

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hard dagger someone give me names for configuration library

What type?

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 8:14 AM

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hard dagger someone give me names for configuration library

Also, Sparkfig? SparConfig? idk lol

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 8:15 AM

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inner umbra What type?

wdym?

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 8:16 AM

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pastel imp Also, Sparkfig? SparConfig? idk lol

those are shit

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 8:16 AM

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pastel imp UwU configuration lib? link?!

is link a suggestion or u want the link

inner umbra Jun 26, 2023, 8:20 AM

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hard dagger wdym?

What type of config is it for? Yaml, json etc...?

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 8:20 AM

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hard dagger is link a suggestion or u want the link

me want the link

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although its probs in kotlin

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so pain

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 8:21 AM

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inner umbra What type of config is it for? Yaml, json etc...?

prob gonna have implementations for both

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 8:21 AM

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pastel imp although its probs in kotlin

did you just accuse me of probably being a kotlin user!??

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also i havent got a link cuz i need a name first

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 8:22 AM

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hard dagger did you just accuse me of probably being a kotlin user!??

aren't you? or am I confusing you with someone else?

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can be...

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🤔

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so.... are you?

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 8:23 AM

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i mean ive got like 200 wakatime hours of it

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but no

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i used it for a bit now i only use it for adding kotlin support to my java libraries and gradle build scripts

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 8:31 AM

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ah oki

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Well no idea for a name... MyConfig? maybe a mix of "Storage" and "Spark"

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 8:34 AM

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imma just do spark config

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 8:34 AM

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you can change it afterwards anyways

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but I am highly in need of a config library to use for my "essentials" remake

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might just do my own simple one

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lol

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 8:36 AM

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u still need one 😭

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actually nvm imma do warp config (definitely didnt ask chat gpt for this)

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 8:39 AM

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hard dagger u still need one 😭

yeah dazzleconf is weird, cool but I am unable to work with it, just not comfortable

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might just read the config and store data in a record, that's how I will do my simple system

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 8:53 AM

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pastel imp me want the link

https://github.com/Sparky983/warp-config

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if u watch it u can get a noti when (or if) it releases

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 9:03 AM

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hard dagger https://github.com/Sparky983/warp-config

how do you plan on structuring it? Like I said, I will be using records, would that be a good idea?

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:05 AM

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its gonna use interfaces and records

inner umbra Jun 26, 2023, 9:05 AM

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pastel imp how do you plan on structuring it? Like I said, I will be using records, would t...

Records are final. Doesn't seem like a good use on something that is suppose to be edited lol

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:05 AM

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why would the application modify the configuration?

inner umbra Jun 26, 2023, 9:06 AM

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I mean that data is (should be) cached untill you set the file... So if you can't edit the cache...

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 9:07 AM

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inner umbra Records are final. Doesn't seem like a good use on something that is suppose to ...

it only gets edited on reload, at that point I can generate a new record and replace the old one

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:08 AM

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hard dagger its gonna use interfaces and records

hopefully itll be smth like this

// record
@Configuration
record EpicConfiguration(@Property("some.string") String someString) { 
// idk how imma do defaults for records yet
// wanna do an annotation but thatll be annoying when u have more complex types
}

// interface
@Configuration
interface EpicConfiguration {
    @Property("some.string")
    default String someString() {
        return "some default";
    }
}

distant sun Jun 26, 2023, 9:09 AM

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Records are just perfect wdym yapp

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:09 AM

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real

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||records 🔛 🔝||

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 9:10 AM

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I will never understand annotations so I will just not use them

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well I still need to read the file.. might use snakeyaml? no idea

inner umbra Jun 26, 2023, 9:10 AM

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I mean if you're not gonna edit them obviously they would be fine. I was thinking more (cache -> edit -> set)

distant sun Jun 26, 2023, 9:10 AM

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Defaults for records is a bit eh, I couldn't figure out how to do it with configurate 🤣

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:12 AM

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Interfaces are an interesting approach

distant sun Jun 26, 2023, 9:12 AM

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True thinkcat

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I wonder if configurate has that, hmm

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:13 AM

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distant sun Defaults for records is a bit eh, I couldn't figure out how to do it with config...

Maybe ill just have a diff annotation to mark a secondary constructor or whatever theyre called which can initialize its defaults

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Thatll get messy tho with a massive this call

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:14 AM

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it’s a shame there’s no real nice way of doing it

distant sun Jun 26, 2023, 9:14 AM

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Yea ugh

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 9:16 AM

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are you able to easily get all fields of an interface? without annotations perferably

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:16 AM

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Interfaces don’t have fields

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And when? At runtime?

distant sun Jun 26, 2023, 9:17 AM

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Whats wrong with annotations

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 9:17 AM

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prisma wave Interfaces don’t have fields

not interface, record mb

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:17 AM

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My library does class generation at compile time which means you get a pretty clean interface imo, at the cost of a lot of silliness at build time ```java

@Config
@Source("database.yml")
@NamingPattern(NamingPattern.LOWER_KEBAB_CASE)
public class DatabaseConfigDTO {
String hostname;
String database;
String username;
String password;
int port = 3306;

@Nullable
String tablePrefix;

}

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 9:17 AM

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distant sun Whats wrong with annotations

nothing, I am just not good enough to do my own

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:18 AM

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pastel imp not interface, record mb

oh then yeah, easily with reflection

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 9:18 AM

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me who is not that familiar with reflection

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:18 AM

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what exactly are you familiar with then lol

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Or rather, why are you asking this question

distant sun Jun 26, 2023, 9:18 AM

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Is probably as easy as Class#getDefinedFields

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:18 AM

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Pretty sure there’s a dedicated method for it

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Record fields that is

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 9:18 AM

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getRecordComponents()

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:19 AM

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^^

distant sun Jun 26, 2023, 9:19 AM

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And annotations are used for more context, different path than the field name, default value, whatever

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 9:20 AM

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hmm so might be able to do it how I wanted.

Was thinking on creating a record and when loading the config I would get all the components and get the respective values and then create the record.

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Would that make sense?

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:21 AM

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Uhh yes?

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 9:21 AM

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suppose it's a thing of how I execute it

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:21 AM

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That’s how literally every library that does that works lol

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 9:21 AM

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oh

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wait what libraries do this?

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might save me work

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lol

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:22 AM

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like, every other deserialisation library

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Gson for instance

distant sun Jun 26, 2023, 9:22 AM

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Configurate is what I use most of the times

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 9:22 AM

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tried configurate and simply wasn't comfortable using it

distant sun Jun 26, 2023, 9:22 AM

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It is a bit verbose ig, but not that hard to use

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 9:23 AM

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not about difficulty, just not comfy to work with imo

distant sun Jun 26, 2023, 9:23 AM

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Fair

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 9:24 AM

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So a mix of records and something like snakeyaml would do the thing?

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:27 AM

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prisma wave My library does class generation at compile time which means you get a pretty cl...

cost of silliness at build time? thats better. means annotations and stuff are validated at build time rather than runtime

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idl the fields tho

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i dont think libraries should be modifying your fields directly

inner umbra Jun 26, 2023, 9:29 AM

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hard dagger i dont think libraries should be modifying your fields directly

Tell that to mojang xD

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:29 AM

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prisma wave it’s a shame there’s no real nice way of doing it

or just switch to kotlin and get default parameter values 👍 ||this is a joke i hate kotlin||

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:29 AM

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inner umbra Tell that to mojang xD

what did mojang do

pastel imp Jun 26, 2023, 9:29 AM

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prisma wave My library does class generation at compile time which means you get a pretty cl...

can you send a link of this lib? or is it private? I actually like the structure of this

inner umbra Jun 26, 2023, 9:30 AM

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hard dagger what did mojang do

Alot of NMS has to be changed via fields

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:33 AM

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inner umbra Alot of NMS has to be changed via fields

thats cuz most of the time you use nms you are doing something thats not "normal" which they obviously havent got apis for

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if it was "normal" you wouldnt be using nms for it

obtuse gale Jun 26, 2023, 9:35 AM

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can u guys help me
can anyone give me support on why this menu just doesnt open
https://pastebin.com/SAVZ1B18

inner umbra Jun 26, 2023, 9:35 AM

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hard dagger thats cuz most of the time you use nms you are doing something thats not "normal...

NBT was pretty "normal" until PDC came out.
Creation of packets is pretty normal now a days still no api for it. (from mojang)

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:37 AM

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does nms' nbt require reflection?

inner umbra Jun 26, 2023, 9:37 AM

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hard dagger does nms' nbt require reflection?

Yes

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:37 AM

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also what packets require reflection? theyre just pojos afaik

inner umbra Jun 26, 2023, 9:39 AM

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hard dagger also what packets require reflection? theyre just pojos afaik

I mean... "require" isn't really the right word. You could make modules of each supported version.

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:39 AM

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hard dagger cost of silliness at build time? thats better. means annotations and stuff are v...

true I mean silliness in that it was a pita to implement, not silliness as a concept

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:39 AM

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oh

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yeah the apt api is terrible

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:40 AM

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pastel imp can you send a link of this lib? or is it private? I actually like the structure...

https://github.com/knightzmc/mittenlib

obtuse gale Jun 26, 2023, 9:40 AM

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guys can you help me?

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:40 AM

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been using it in most of my plugins for quite a while so mostly production ready

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though it's not super modular atm

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you kinda have to use the full framework to use it lol

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feel free to take / adjust code though

obtuse gale Jun 26, 2023, 9:40 AM

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can u guys help me
can anyone give me support on why this menu just doesnt open
https://pastebin.com/SAVZ1B18

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:40 AM

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#general-plugins

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:40 AM

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inner umbra I mean... "require" isn't really the right word. You could make modules of each ...

meaning theres still methods for it and constructors thatll do the same thing. you should be using those instead.

inner umbra Jun 26, 2023, 9:41 AM

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hard dagger meaning theres still methods for it and constructors thatll do the same thing. y...

Constructors yes. Methods no.

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A few packets I use don't have methods (atleast in past versions)

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:41 AM

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hard dagger i dont think libraries should be modifying your fields directly

it's not, it generates a separate class with all the logic

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annotation processors cant modify existing classes

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:42 AM

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prisma wave it's not, it generates a separate class with all the logic

like a class that doesn't even reference DatabaseConfigDTO?

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:42 AM

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it only references it for the default values of fields

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iirc

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copying the default verbatim could cause compiler errors wrt access modifiers

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https://paste.developerden.org/yvefahykic.kt

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that's what it produces

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bit of a mess, but in theory quite fast

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Object portFromMap = $data.getOrDefault("port", dao.port);

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still needs a lot of work though

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:45 AM

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ok thats actually alr

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thought it was gonna be like gson

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:45 AM

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nah thats another benefit of classgen

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you can in theory get much faster loading

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no reflection needed

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:46 AM

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not the nullability annotations in the method location (i hate this)

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use type use location!!

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:46 AM

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what

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public @Null#4113able String()?

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:46 AM

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ye

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:46 AM

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too tricky

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:46 AM

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😭

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:46 AM

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sorry

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:46 AM

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you should be.

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jb annotations bad anyway

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:47 AM

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prisma wave you can in theory get much faster loading

but it has to fall-back to gson deserialization in a lot of cases (eg custom types that arent registered with my library), which kinda defeats the point

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:47 AM

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hard dagger jb annotations bad anyway

now that's a hot take

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why

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:51 AM

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they love backwards compatibility so the annotations mostly still have METHOD, FIELD, etc targets from java 7 even though java 8 has TYPE_USE
I CBA TYPING @NotNull ON EVERY DECLARATION MAKE IT DEFAULT OR SMTH
works terribly with generics
they encourage you to use IllegalArgumentException if a parameter is null which we all know is wrong (obviously)
CLASS retention

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:54 AM

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how is 4 wrong lol

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:56 AM

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because thats what java chose and i think its more important to be consistent than whatever the argument going for IAE is

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its not like users should be catching NPE or IAEs anyway. theyre programmer errors.

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 9:58 AM

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sure, so why does it matter?

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consistency, that is

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 9:59 AM

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i dont rly have a reason

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i just think it is

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makes stuff slightly (like very slightly) less confusing

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thats it rly

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 10:00 AM

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if anything i think IAE is better, it's more obviously "an argument value was wrong", whereas NPE is just generic "something was null"

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but this is very deep into bikeshedding territory

hard dagger Jun 26, 2023, 10:01 AM

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prisma wave if anything i think IAE is better, it's more obviously "an argument value was wr...

preferrably the exception message should do that

prisma wave Jun 26, 2023, 10:02 AM

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sure, it should

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but by that logic we should just use RuntimeException for everything & specify details in the message

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we have distinct types for a reason