Hate when autocorrect just doesn't happen
#dev-general
prisma wave
obtuse gale
maybe pee happens in levels idk lol
prisma wave
Well yeah you have to have some constraints otherwise you'd never actually write any logic
Which I guess is actually fairly common in enterprise java
ocean quartz
In that case you can have Handler -> LevelHandler -> PeeLevelHandler
obtuse gale
Well yeah you have to have *some* constraints otherwise you'd never actually wri...
yeah tell that to dinnerbone
prisma wave
AbstractMegaPeeFactoryHandlerLevelBuilderSupplier
agile galleon
Handler -> ObjectHandler -> LevelHandler -> PeeLevelHandler -> PDCPeeLevelHandler
prisma wave
Yeah it's also important to not go overboard
agile galleon
what would your hirarchy be for pee stored in pdc and sql
prisma wave
flat
agile galleon
so two impls of something
prisma wave
Well not flat
ocean quartz
Pee is stored in the pdc balls
agile galleon
and what would be in the api part and what only intern
prisma wave
Can we use a different name it's really hard to take this seriously
agile galleon
Pee is stored in the pdc balls
okay i think you got something wrong here, i hope your balls arent filled with pee
obtuse gale
it is not uncommon for when you make an API to think like "I want to expose the implementation without exposing the implementation" and so you just end up with a one to one mapping of the actual impl - this is quite common if you make the API after you make the system
agile galleon
Can we use a different name it's really hard to take this seriously
UltraPee?
UltraDiharrhea
prisma wave
and what would be in the api part and what only intern
API = what you can do
internal = how it's done
agile galleon
i have never spelled this word correctly
agile galleon
API = what you can do
internal = how it's done
ye
agile galleon
okay
obtuse gale
or i will commit dkim and delete my messages
agile galleon
so what i got from the pee filled commets here
prisma wave
If you want a really good example of proper API design and abstraction look at rust (THIS IS A JOKE)
obtuse gale
bro
agile galleon
ObjectStorage<T> has functions set(T value, Player player) ->
PeeStorage implements ObjectStorage<Pee> (still an interface) ->
PDCPeeStorage implements PeeStorage (not exposed in API) overrides set(Pee pee, Player player)
obtuse gale
what are you saying 😢
solemn laurel
the mega pee handler ☹️
prisma wave
AAAAAA no I can't do it sorry that was a joke and sarcasm and a lie DO NOT
prisma wave
`ObjectStorage<T>` has functions `set(T value, Player player)` ->
`PeeStorage im...
Looks good
agile galleon
PlayerStorage maybe
prisma wave
Yeah I was thinking playerstorage
agile galleon
storage is kind of fishy in my opinion
ocean quartz
AttributeStorage perhaps
solemn laurel
who thought pee was a good idea, i cant take any of these seriously now even though theyre legit ideas
prisma wave
Well if it's a supertype of PeeStorage maybe it should be FluidStorage
obtuse gale
AttributeStorage perhaps
Misleading in the context of Minecraft, attributes are a thing in the game already
prisma wave
Then we can add support for other fluids down the line
ocean quartz
Misleading in the context of Minecraft, attributes are a thing in the game alrea...
Good point
solemn laurel
other fluids 😨
obtuse gale
stop right there
prisma wave
such as
prisma wave
blood
obtuse gale
MongoDatabase fluid
solemn laurel
what are the other implementations of BodilyFluid
ocean quartz
Sweat
obtuse gale
hair
solemn laurel
hair implementing bodilyfluid is something you'd see in the support channel here
obtuse gale
yes
agile galleon
diarrhea
prisma wave
I bet hair follows fluid dynamics
prisma wave
hair implementing bodilyfluid is something you'd see in the support channel here
This is not a support channel (not configuration help)
solemn laurel
the whole point of diarrhea is there is no storage
ocean quartz
Alright folks this was interesting before, but now it's goodbye
obtuse gale
NOOOOO
agile galleon
i thought we were an enough mature server to avoid it
thought wrong
well thenk you guys for enlightening me
solemn laurel
you mean this conversation was your fault?
agile galleon
also by the way the kentucky anthem states that people become gay
agile galleon
you mean this conversation was *your* fault?
it still enlightened me
and yes it partially was
especially because the last half was based around pee, how to store pee and other questionable bodily fluids (and how to store those)
prisma wave
i thought we were an enough mature server to avoid it
My brother in christ you made a plugin called Mega Pee
solemn laurel
guys talking about "partially"
obtuse gale
why is your brother inside christ?
agile galleon
not yet
also this
i mean, id still respect him but he gotta tell me beforehand
christ was my friend
oh no
i have something sinful on my mind
prisma wave
why is your brother inside christ?
he has a very close relationship with the lord
very pious
prisma wave
I wouldn't worry too much, you're already going to hell for the pee plugin
agile galleon
agile galleon
I wouldn't worry too much, you're already going to hell for the pee plugin
awesome
prisma wave
https://upload.skyslycer.de/Discord_MLSlb558gP.png
face_with_spiral_eyes
solemn laurel
whats the difference between hi and hi
prisma wave
?
agile galleon
i can see it but i cant
solemn laurel
``hi`` vs `hi`
prisma wave
nothing
solemn laurel
ah
agile galleon
exactly
half harness
whats the difference between hi and hi
agile galleon
whats the difference between `hi` and `hi`
half harness
👏
half harness
@prisma wave hi
agile galleon
ik you put a unicode thing there
prisma wave
WHAT do you want
half harness
WHAT do you want
idk I just wanted to ping you
agile galleon
in my balls implements PeeStorage
prisma wave
@half harness
agile galleon
if anybody wants to make MegaPee or any affiliates reality, contact me and ill license you the idea
prisma wave
I'd sooner drive off a bridge
ionic gust
imagine not uploading ur plugin on github, modrinth, polymart, spigot, and bukkit
solemn laurel
its going on mediafire with no description
ruby dew
https://upload.skyslycer.de/Discord_7Op1DfRApB.png
when the inline isnt inline
ruby dew
if anybody wants to make MegaPee or any affiliates reality, contact me and ill l...
What does megapee do
ruby dew
if you had told me any sooner i would have got it done right away lol
had quit minecraft 1-2 years ago
tranquil crane
I didn't mean to start a war on API conventions oops
tranquil crane
For plugins #general-plugins #1007620980627230730
midnight isle
ty
tranquil crane
For development #development
obtuse gale
For API naming #dev-general
tranquil crane
apparently yeah lol
ok how do we feel about Impl at the end if it's just going to be a single implementation
wintry plinth
For anything else #off-topic
tranquil crane
like StackedEntityImpl implementing the StackedEntity interface which is exposed to the API
because I absolutely refuse to do IStackedEntity for the api version
wintry plinth
I use I even tho it looks odd
tranquil crane
I think it looks incredibly cursed when all you see in an API is just a ton of I classes
solemn laurel
i thought I notation was used for C# mostly
tranquil crane
Generally yes C# still uses it which is also cursed
solemn laurel
at the place i interned we used that everywhere xD youd hate it
half harness
what
tranquil crane
now that is the worst
obtuse gale
I feel sorry for you
solemn laurel
is that a thing
tranquil crane
for c# yes it's an actual convention we worked with
I don't think it's in the official microsoft conventions but it's at least a decently common enough one
solemn laurel
we should start a fake convention and pass it on to as many people as possilbe
like a global G notation
solemn laurel
all variables are static 🙂
tranquil crane
public static int Gs_Global_Variable = 17;
tranquil crane
no final to make it extra cursed
half harness
public static int Gfs_Global_Variable = 17;
f = final
s = static
and G = global
solemn laurel
>>> five = 5
>>> print(five)
5
>>> five, print, = print, five
>>> five(print)
5
>>> print(5)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
TypeError: 'int' object is not callable
>>>
So long as it doesn't pollute API space, you could suffix it with Norway for all that matters
solemn laurel
are you norsk
half harness
IUserAPIInterface
obtuse gale
Nope
tranquil crane
IUserAPIInterfaceFactoryBeanFactory
solemn laurel
<Doubleton>
half harness
Tripleton<
ruby dew
ok
ruby dew
how do we feel about modules being capitalized like that
it feels good
tranquil crane
hard dagger
I feel like the capitalized modules are going to annoy somebody
they do
the convention is kebab case
😠
ocean quartz
I feel like C#'s conventions was done by a guy that thought to himself "what if we took all the worse conventions from every language and used it"
old wyvern
chatgpt not opening up for anyone else?
ocean quartz
Works for me
ruby dew
chatgpt is disabled in my region sad
old wyvern
ah rip
static zealot
I feel like C#'s conventions was done by a guy that thought to himself "what if ...
hahahahahaha.
😭
someone help me. he is so right
solemn laurel
Waiting for my professors to catch up with the world and realize 90% of their homework’s can be chatGPT’ed
queen saffron
Shh don't tell em
obtuse gale
Or do and cause havoc 
solemn laurel
we'll have in-person exams for every class
humble silo
obtuse gale
good
tranquil crane
be annoyed
I'm gonna change them to all lowercase because it's started to annoy me more
tranquil crane
While you're at it lowercase repositories name on github too ;p
I absolutely refuse to do this
the artifactId is still rosestacker but the project name will remain RoseStacker because it looks better >:(
distant sun
Nicole, does rose stacker stop wither skeletons from spawning in nether from skeleton spawners, or zombie villagers from zombie spawners?
distant sun
@tranquil crane bop
obtuse gale
@tranquil crane bop
tranquil crane
Nicole, does rose stacker stop wither skeletons from spawning in nether from ske...
yes it does and I didn't even know normal spawners would do that
distant sun
what about zombie villagers?
tranquil crane
it only spawns the original entity type out of the spawner and doesn't change it based on the location or randomness
distant sun
fair
tranquil crane
things like sheep colors are randomized but I wasn't aware vanilla spawners would do that
obtuse gale
what's rosestacker exactly?
tranquil crane
mob, item, spawner, and block stacking plugin. block stacking for skyblock mostly, mob stacking I generally only recommend for spawner mobs to reduce gameplay impact
obtuse gale
not the mob stacker!
tranquil crane
I know the community generally frowns upon mob stacking plugins which is why I only really recommend using it to stack spawner mobs
tranquil crane
well some communities, idk about this one specifically
obtuse gale
like they won't spawn any more of the entity when there are X amount of them within Y radius
distant sun
many servers are highly based on spawners + relocation, so 😬
tranquil crane
like they won't spawn any more of the entity when there are X amount of them wit...
yes rs takes that into account and has its own settings to expand upon it
obtuse gale
okay nice
tranquil crane
it's also a full spawner plugin allowing customizing conditions/timings and stuff
tranquil crane
many servers are highly based on spawners + relocation, so 😬
the main thing I've seen people use it for are skyblock servers where mob farms are extremely common and servers where the entire economy is based off just grinding mobs
distant sun
yes
tranquil crane
are java 9 modules worth using
obtuse gale
in any other real world project 100000%
half harness
what does it do?
obtuse gale
you can find my few dozens of messages in #developer-chat about it
half harness
alr
obtuse gale
i don't really feel like going all over it again
distant sun
Long-story-short: It is nice
prisma wave
getting deja vu here
tranquil crane
distant sun
remove the Impl suffix?
tranquil crane
the interfaces are named BlockStackSettings etc
I guess I could just remove the suffix but then the names would be the same
distant sun
ah I thought it is just BaseStackSettings
tranquil crane
o no the basestacksettings implements stacksettings lol
I'm breaking the project out to use interfaces for the new api layer
distant sun
I couldnt bother more so I went with Impl as well xD
tranquil crane
welp alrighty
I have to do it for another 5 classes too
it just feels a little clunky
distant sun
the I prefix on the other hand is 🤢
tranquil crane
The I prefix is far worse
imagine opening an api for the first time and everything is just prefixed with I, disgusting
distant sun
wind patio
anyone has any idea why the chunk loading is so slow?
would ask in #minecraft but cant post videos zz
it doesn't look as bad now, but when I teleport to a player I have to wait like 10 seconds for it to load
urban sleet
Pregenerating the world should help
wind patio
it's pregenerated
I think the issue is the server is very slow at sending the chunk data to the client
prisma wave
i remember that was an issue ages ago when 1.18 (?) had just released
prisma wave
latest?
tranquil crane
dang that's slow slow for a 3900x
I have the same cpu and chunks basically load instantly
tranquil crane
is the server using a HDD or an SSD
wind patio
SSD
tranquil crane
a spark report would likely give a pretty good idea of why it's so slow
wind patio
well it's 130 players online, TPS is pretty stable at 20`ish
tranquil crane
stable 20 with 130 players is rather impressive
wind patio
MSPT sometimes is a bit bigger than I'd want but for the most part it's fine
tranquil crane
that loading speed is abysmal though, could you run a spark profiler and load a bunch of chunks?
wind patio
stable 20 with 130 players is rather impressive
yeah there's like hundreds of mob spawners active too lol
distant sun
damn
wind patio
https://spark.lucko.me/83xhCB2q6b
that's 30 second of me trying to load chunks (probably other players too)
I can do a longer one if needed.
wind patio
stable 20 with 130 players is rather impressive
yeah, well, we have like ~60 plugins, and It's pretty stable at 20 with 160+ players.
half harness
btw update spark on your next restart 👍
tranquil crane
12% spent by hoppers moving items around, plugin usage looks mostly good other than NCP being a cpu hog as per usual
wind patio
12% spent by hoppers moving items around, plugin usage looks mostly good other t...
yeah, lot's of mob farms
tranquil crane
as for the chunks since paper does them async they don't even show up on the spark report 
tranquil crane
yeah that's weird that the chunks would be going that slowly if the cpu is that low
half harness
the ping is also low so it's not an issue with internet/sending too many packets
tranquil crane
and you have aikar's flags so idk what's going on there
that 206mspt is a bit sus
give me a minute to remember how to use that plugin properly
wind patio
They have a guide on their web
tranquil crane
/spark profiler --timeout 30 --only-ticks-over 75
wind patio
yeah I remember using this one
tranquil crane
that still probably won't help show why the chunks are borked
wind patio
tranquil crane
do I even want to know what this is
wind patio
a plugin
tranquil crane
I'm going to pretend I didn't see that percentage
half harness
File IO on main thread 🤔
distant sun
old combat mechanics 😬
tranquil crane
that plugin caused the entire spark report to go wack
welp either way doesn't tell anything about the chunks unfortunately
wind patio
old combat mechanics 😬
yeah, most of our player-base like the 1.8 combat, without hit delay, can't really do much there, haven't found any other alternatives
distant sun
lame, but I feel you
obtuse gale
File IO on main thread 🤔
poggers
tranquil crane
is there a chunk limiter per tick or something that's causing it to slow down massively like that
cpu was still at only 10% so something else has got to be throttling it
wind patio
is there a chunk limiter per tick or something that's causing it to slow down ma...
I'm trying to look for causes but nothing really comes to mind what could be doing it
distant sun
is this such a big problem? https://github.com/kernitus/BukkitOldCombatMechanics/blob/master/src/main/java/kernitus/plugin/OldCombatMechanics/module/ModuleAttackCooldown.java#L78 I've never used player#saveData
tranquil crane
It seems weird that they're calling that manually since it's run in the PlayerQuitEvent, shouldn't that data just be saving on its own 
it seems redundant to call that
wind patio
I might just go play around in the test-server and disabling plugins one by one
then again, the environment wont be the same, since it won't have that much players online lol
tranquil crane
There is apparently a chunk rate limiter built in somewhere
could you share what you have for those in config/paper-global.yml
those are the settings for 1.19.3 so idk how much is gonna be different from 1.18.2
wind patio
I don't have config folder in root dir
tranquil crane
uh it might just be paper.yml on your version
wind patio
probably
distant sun
yeah
tranquil crane
I'm guessing since you have so many players on it might be hitting one of the throttle caps
wind patio
kinda lost on what's and why it's happening
tranquil crane
why must java generics allow return values to be subclasses of the interface but it doesn't work with generics 
potent nest
because that wouldn't be sound
if that works, I could put a StackedEntityNotYourImpl into your map, now what happens if you try to read it as StackedEntityImpl again?
obtuse gale
question mark extends stacked entity
Alternatively, just return a Function<? super UUID, ? extends StackedEntity> 
potent nest
smort
obtuse gale
uhm actually it would be a PartialFunction? 🤓
potent nest
obtuse gale
pleading_face_with_3_hearts
prisma wave
Function???
obtuse gale
Excel is the most used FP language
prisma wave
True!
obtuse gale
According to SPJ
prisma wave
I love spj
wind patio
it's !not
prisma wave
Oh, i see.. I guess you're right then
solemn laurel
when chatgpt makes the plugin and midjourney makes the logo
and my only job is to slap the $400 paywall 😉
prisma wave
u forgot to add the command to plugin .yml
oh
guess im talking to myself
the voices the voices the voices the voices the voices
rugged spear
its thtat the right channel?
core:
description: core command
usage: /core```anywya i did it
rugged spear
alright
ionic gust
@half harness what is roboref
ionic gust
everything works now after just a few hours in #development: https://srnyx.is-from.space/java_qjjqP9nO7y.mp4
this is so satisfying: https://srnyx.has.rocks/java_5jSEzzUyZW.mp4
ruby dew
satisfying too
i need permission to use this as my pfp
like pls
this pic is priceless
ionic gust
its for that plugin 💀
ruby dew
oh its literally the plugin you are showcasing lol
ionic gust
LOL
ionic gust
here's the original steve:
ionic gust
i just googled "steve with hand out" 💀
ionic gust
its from this apparently: https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/b8awof
ionic gust
i just googled "steve with hand out" 💀
and the background is from googling "forcefield clip art"
which gets u this:
ruby dew
this is so satisfying: https://srnyx.has.rocks/java_5jSEzzUyZW.mp4
yeah indeed lol
maybe later you can make like a tornado mode?
like you are basically a tornado and blocks revolve around you
that would be cool too
ionic gust
btw how'd u find forcefield plugin? out of curiosity
ruby dew
just got on to spigot then found your plugin in the last update category
ionic gust
ooo nice ok
ruby dew
i mean i have no reason to not click on it
with that pic lol
plugin turns out to be really cool too
ionic gust
:)
ionic gust
who is this steve
u
half harness
OMG TIERIST, again
no I meant that as a compliment
ionic gust
mhm
ionic gust
L dkim
half harness
it took me a whole minute to realize who you were
because i look at pfp
not username
I need pfp
ruby dew
ionic gust
I need pfp
ill make u one
ruby dew
ionic gust
u have to use it, or else ur hurting my feelings :(
ionic gust
nooo it can't be mc related
its not, see how its squished on the left
ruby dew
its a tofu head
ionic gust
yeah whatever tofu is
half harness
its not, see how its squished on the left
add some white space around it
it doesn't fit
ionic gust
ok
ruby dew
any chance for transparent background
ruby dew
ionic gust
its a little bit distorted but here u go:
it adds character
its like a slime animation
@ruby dew https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/forcefield.583836/#post-4522920
New update coming soon that'll feature:
- Block pushing (maybe don't use this on production... lmao)
- Inverse forcefield, will make the forcefield pull targets instead of pushing them
- Some backend/internal improvements
Maybe coming in the future:- Special forcefield types, such as tornado, which will make targets revolve around you
ionic gust
i havent done tornado yet
that will probs take a day of attempting, a day of crying, and then a day of completing
ionic gust
<@292161924496490497> https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/forcefield.583836/#post-4...
this is just a comment so that other ppl see it too
half harness
my schedule:
day 1: procrastinate
day 2: procrastinate
day 3: get 5% completed
day 4: repeat
ionic gust
my schedule:
day 1: procrastinate
day 2: procrastinate
day 3: get 5% completed
d...
my schedule:
ionic gust
you actually did it lmao so quick
o i also havent done inverse yet but thats super ez cause i already accidentally did it while testing before initial release 💀
ionic gust
ok now inverse should be done
@ruby dew 💀
oops
i sent msg before video was done processing
anyways heres a screenshot of what happens in the video while we wait: || https://go-to.srnyx.xyz/java_I4twylrxuY.jpg ||
ok here's the video (too big to embed): https://srnyx.likes.cash/java_5HJllTc9GL.mp4
ruby dew
ok here's the video (too big to embed): https://srnyx.likes.cash/java_5HJllTc9GL...
pc be burnin rn
💀
ruby dew
o i also havent done inverse yet but thats super ez cause i already accidentally...
oh alr im still at school will test when im back home lol
ionic gust
im adding so many security measures to make sure ppl cant get access to blocks by cheating or smth
theres a config list of players who can use blocks, instead of a permission
and an enabled toggle in config too
ionic gust
oh alr im still at school will test when im back home lol
will probs release tmr since its 12:30 AM for me
still gotta do some final tests
half harness
will probs release tmr since its 12:30 AM for me
yo same timezone
sweet cipher
Same, do you live in Australia?
tranquil crane
Alternatively, just return a `Function<? super UUID, ? extends StackedEntity>` <...
this is horrible
turns out you can just do this and it works for some reason
I have no clue how the type inference works anymore
sinful geyser
so im a little confused event.getClickedInventory().getTitle() isnt working for me anymore how do you get the title of an inventory?
potent nest
turns out you can just do this and it works for some reason <:FacePalm:853121868...
Because unmodifiableMap takes a Map<? extends K, ? extends V> and returns a Map<K, V>. This is safe as the Map can’t be modified anyways
wind patio
if that works, I could put a StackedEntityNotYourImpl into your map, now what ha...
as said here, in your previous example, you could add two different implementations.
since it's unmodifiable, you're putting only one type of implementation, and you won't be able to add a different one
distant sun
so im a little confused ```event.getClickedInventory().getTitle()``` isnt workin...
It was moved to InventoryView iirc, but dont use titles to identify inventories
wind patio
anyone has any idea why the chunk loading is so slow?
regarding yesterdays issue,
seems to be some sort of cap or limiter with high number of players, as @tranquil crane said (sorry for pingeroo)
the loading was fine with 70-80, but slowed down significantly with 100+ (not exact numbers)
drifting yoke
I'm making an app like AirBnb. When the logged in user opts to check one's rating should I create a User object at that moment or what?
prisma wave
huh?
drifting yoke
It's java so it's weird
Like when the user clicks on a profile which is a username
Should I create a User object at that moment so I can fetch all the info?
or should I just grab piece by piece from the file and not bother making an ojbect
prisma wave
what is "the file"?
seems more like it would be doing a database / backend query if anything
to get the user info
drifting yoke
There are going to be files, like yml (It's a uni project so we're not using any dbs)
drifting yoke
Everything is going to be a rep on github so I can't access servers for databases
It's going to be just a sample with like 10 users
drifting yoke
Oh yeah, a database by means
prisma wave
your ui code shouldnt have any idea where the data is coming from
drifting yoke
So I have this log in format where a user logs in and there's a method getActiveUser() that's why I don't bother makign more User objects
prisma wave
it should just be able to call some method to get a User from a username and then use the data stored in the user object
drifting yoke
Hmm, okay, what about Buildings? I have made a BuildingManager class where it stores all the accomodations
So its basically a List of accomodations
prisma wave
yeah again, UI code should have absolutely zero knowledge of the underlying database (or lack of). it should just be able to lookup an object from the controller layer and render / modify its data
drifting yoke
Yeah, I'm working on the API for now, trying to make sure that the UI won't have to implement any logic
prisma wave
yeah i can't really be more specific without more knowledge of the stack you're using but you may wanna look into the MVC architecture for a good way of structuring your backend
drifting yoke
But, is it fine if I store all the Buildings in a List or should I go on the same path as the Users
drifting yoke
As I mentioned, I have a BuildingManager class that instantiates all the Buildings once the program is running
prisma wave
oh so internally
drifting yoke
Yes, but is that a bad idea or should I just instantiate a building object whenever needed?
prisma wave
I'm a little confused by your use of the word "instantiate" - if you're loading things from a database, typically you want a single object per database entity (or as few as possible) whereas you seem to want to create new ones every time
if they're mutable objects then you definitely want as few instances as possible
drifting yoke
So, It's a Building class where I just create an object for every different Building stored in the database
prisma wave
Well yes
but that's different to "instantiat[ing] whenever needed"
i see what you mean though
drifting yoke
instantiating I meant fetch the info then create the object
prisma wave
yeah
anyway you likely want some form of caching, on a larger scale it's probably not a good idea to load all the buildings at once (as there could be billions), so a Map is probably the best underlying structure as it'll let you query by ID faster. if you don't need that, a List is fine but a Set would be slightly better for the uniqueness guarantees imo
drifting yoke
A Map? How could i implement the map
prisma wave
do your Buildings not have an ID / primary key?
prisma wave
Map<Id, Building>
drifting yoke
But still, making so many objects is practical?
prisma wave
sure
the only thing you may wanna consider is lazily loading them rather than doing them all on startup
but that might not be practical depending on ur architecture
drifting yoke
If I make them seriliazible objects do I need to convert them into an object before being able to fetch any info?
prisma wave
?
drifting yoke
I'll serialize the objects so I make them into a file all at once then in order to get it back I need to call it
FileInputStream fi = new FileInputStream(new File("myObjects.txt"));
ObjectInputStream oi = new ObjectInputStream(fi);
// Read objects
Person pr1 = (Person) oi.readObject();
Person pr2 = (Person) oi.readObject();
show 😮
drifting yoke
Which library should I use for json?
half harness
Which library should I use for json?
iirc gson is built into minecraft
drifting yoke
I'm not coding a minecraft plugin rn
But I'm going with gson
Also, I have a question. What happens when I save an object in json file that has other objects in it?
drifting yoke
Like I have a file for Building which I'll convert to json
But building has an object inside it BuildingAttributes which has some Strings and Lists of Stirngs
Will it "deserialize" the object on its own?
prisma wave
gson will yes
drifting yoke
Is there a way to give the files the name I like?
prisma wave
yes?
drifting yoke
How!
prisma wave
the important thing to realise is that converting to/from json is an entirely separate process to reading/writing to a file
so you're responsible for the file handling
drifting yoke
Can't I write with gson?
prisma wave
which is why that's an odd question to ask
drifting yoke
But
When i create the file with json
gson.toJson(user, new FileWriter("/data/users"));```you can, in that there are methods that use a FileWriter but you're still responsible for actually making a file name
it doesnt just magically come up with a name
prisma wave
yes
drifting yoke
Thanks Brister!
prisma wave
easiest way would be try-with-resources
dont create it inline
create it in a twr and it'll get closed automatically
drifting yoke
Doesn't it close automatically the way I did it?
prisma wave
no
drifting yoke
That's how it has it on the blog I'm reading
Also, another question. I want to have different types of Buildings. Should I make them enums or subclasses?
For the users I have made two subclasses one for Guests another one for Providers
prisma wave
subclasses is certainly a more OOP way
drifting yoke
It's just weird because, how do I fetch, how do I instantiate object?
prisma wave
?
drifting yoke
Like I know it's a building object but I don't know what subclass object im creating when im fetching it from json
prisma wave
That's how it has it on the blog I'm reading
then the blog forgot / doesn't realise - if you look at the source code gson doesn't close it automatically (bc that would be bad design)
drifting yoke
I can't know whether it's a Bangalow or a Mansion
prisma wave
well hang on
if the 2 types are identical apart from a "tag" then you may as well use an enum
there's no real benefit to having subtypes there
drifting yoke
Hmm then what about the case of User
In the Provider class there are extra stuff like a list of buildings the provider owns
prisma wave
really that seems like bad design
a user could be a guest and a provider
they're not mutually exclusive
drifting yoke
In the project our professor mentions that the User is either guest or a provider. If he opts to be a provider he needs to have access to extra possibilities like Add Accomodation or Remove Accommodation
prisma wave
ah okay
well in this case you can use RuntimeTypeAdapterFactory which will let you add "tags" for each of the subtypes
eg ```java
RuntimeTypeAdapterFactory<Animal> runtimeTypeAdapterFactory = RuntimeTypeAdapterFactory
.of(Animal.class, "type")
.registerSubtype(Horse.class, "horse")
.registerSubtype(Cow.class, "cow");
Gson gson = new GsonBuilder()
.registerTypeAdapterFactory(runtimeTypeAdapterFactory)
.create();
Where does that code go?
To the file manager?
Is it like an extra field that I'm saving?
prisma wave
Yes
drifting yoke
I'm really confused with this adapter thing
prisma wave
To the file manager?
Wherever you're doing the serialisation
It just adds an extra field to mark which subtype it is
drifting yoke
So what code do I need to implement in my subclasses then?
Oh no code?
It saves the subclass automatically in the json file
and when I fetch do i need to have 2 different methods for the User Type?
hmm that wouldnt make sense
prisma wave
?
prisma wave
It saves the subclass automatically in the json file
Yes
drifting yoke
When I fetch the file
prisma wave
and when I fetch do i need to have 2 different methods for the User Type?
what on earth does this mean
drifting yoke
When I do the deserialization to get the object
how do I know which subclass to cast it with
drifting yoke
I do User user = ... and it just returns a Guest?
prisma wave
yes
drifting yoke
Btw how do I make sure that an actual User object never instantiates?
prisma wave
make it an abstract class
drifting yoke
Abstract classes can have instances tho
prisma wave
No they can't
drifting yoke
Oh
Why do I remember my professor saying "making them abstract classes gives you the option to instantiate but interfaces dont"
prisma wave
They probably meant that you can define constructors for an abstract class
drifting yoke
oh yeah youre right
prisma wave
There are also anonymous subclasses but those are possible with interfaces too
drifting yoke
Like creating a class in the class?
prisma wave
no like java new Blah() { @Override blah }
drifting yoke
Huh? What's the difference with
class Subuser{}
}```Anonymous subclasses, as the name suggests, don't have names
So they only exist once
solemn laurel
Huh? What's the difference with
```class User {
class Subuser{}
}```
those are inner classes here
prisma wave
No they're not
solemn laurel
oh
drifting yoke
what are anonymous classes used for
solemn laurel
i use them to create small runnables
prisma wave
Yeah lambdas are just syntax sugar for anonymous subclasses of the functional interfaces
prisma wave
yes
solemn laurel
No they're not
what do you mean by this it confused me, is "subuser" not a nested non-static class? sorry dont mean to having you answering two lines of questions at once xD
prisma wave
what do you mean by this it confused me, is "subuser" not a nested non-static cl...
oh wait yeah I misread it lmao
My bad
solemn laurel
no worry
prisma wave
for example you can do foreach(t ->)
list.forEach(t -> t.blah())
``` is the same as ```java
list.forEach(new Consumer<>() {
@Override public void accept(T t) {
t.blah();
}
});
What's annoying about my java course is that our professor show us how to code in java and the general way around it but won't show us details like lambdas and stuff, or teach us ways to organize a project but straight up ask a whole AirBnb app from us
I don't remember what Consumer does tbh
prisma wave
What's annoying about my java course is that our professor show us how to code i...
Classic
solemn laurel
i swear
prisma wave
I don't remember what Consumer does tbh
It's just an interface with the consume method, i.e. something that does something with a T and doesn't produce a result, (it "consumes" the T)
solemn laurel
we have no education on devops or design patterns (at my school)
this is why it took me the whole day to get worldguard dependency xD
drifting yoke
so T is naturally the object inside the list i'm using foreach?
prisma wave
T is a generic type representing whatever the list elements are
drifting yoke
Yes that's what I meant
drifting yoke
Great
So, I create a RTAFactory, I create a Gson the gson builder then I save the User user type and it automatically detects its a subclass and saves the type?
prisma wave
Yes
wind patio
small question for IJ IDE experts here
I have two projects, as shown in the image.
One is the root project (M0-Pagrindai) and the other one, module M0-PagrindaiDC.
In the root settings.gradle there's a line
include 'M0-PagrindaiDC', what that does is includes the compile output into the root project. I don't want that, but I still want to be able to build the both projects independently. If I remove the include .. part, then everything breaks
half harness
small question for IJ IDE experts here
I have two projects, as shown in the imag...
btw shouldn't have anything to do with IJ
it does not include the compile output - that only happens if you shade in the module afaik
using implementation
typically you don't have an src in the base module if you have submodules too
wind patio
well, maybe there are some IDE tricks that I don't know that does the magic, wasnt sure, but anyways
I am, in fact, using shadowjar, but it's compileOnly, not implementation
yeah, well, I wasn't sure how to properly do it and so it happened I made a submodule
half harness
well, maybe there are some IDE tricks that I don't know that does the magic, was...
hmm
odd
by default I don't think it should be shading it in
ocean quartz
Hard to tell without seeing the gradle files
wind patio
yeah well I'm currently ripping my project inside-out, gonna re-do everthing, lol
wind patio
@quiet depot sorry for ping-pong
Could you, by chance, extend this guide to feature connection to a remote server?
https://wiki.helpch.at/piggys-barn/java/how-to-run-your-minecraft-server-s-in-intellij
I tried connecting to a server that's running in an oracle vps instance, but had no luck.
obtuse gale
Yeah lambdas are just syntax sugar for anonymous subclasses of the functional in...
eeeeee
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
prisma wave
i lied
obtuse gale
eeeeeeeeeee ee e eeeeee ee ee https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/19/docs/api/java.base/java/lang/invoke/LambdaMetafactory.html
obtuse gale
let's say lambdas are a stronger form of anonymous classes
old wyvern
is there any difference apart from performance between the two?
I have read somewhere that LambaMetaFactory does some optimizations to make it faster than anonymous classes
prisma wave
apart from performance
solemn laurel
syntactic cocaine
hard dagger
I have read somewhere that LambaMetaFactory does some optimizations to make it f...
Ik its performance but im pretty sure the main optimization is that it avoids class loading
hard dagger
syntactic cocaine
Its not cuz it produces different bytecode
solemn laurel
thats the cocaine part
hard dagger
Lmao
obtuse gale
Ik its performance but im pretty sure the main optimization is that it avoids cl...
not exactly
it uses ASM to generate a new class so a class is being loaded anyway
🤓 but that's implementation detail and may not always be like that
not like loading a single class is going to make a huge difference in performance anyway
obtuse gale
idk about other jvms but hotspot at least is able to do "singleton lambdas"; in both cases (anonymous classes and lambdas) you end up creating a new instance every time they're used, but on hotspot, if the lambda takes no captures the jvm will basically cache the instance as a singleton and reuse it
e.g. s -> System.out.println(s) can be optimised in that way, System.out::println cannot (var out = System.out; Consumer<String> c = s -> out.println(s);, out is a capture variable) (also in this latter case, an Objects.requiresNonNull(out) check is performed at every call as well)
distant sun
Question: Metod reference is just a thing for the user? Like, at compile time it will be the same as x -> methodThatTakes(x) or are they evaluated differently?
obtuse gale
it depends
Type::method would be the same as t -> t.method() / t -> Type.method(t)
variableOrFieldOrThis::method isn't (see above)
distant sun
The first case, t.method() / Type.method()
quiet depot
<@181675431362035712> sorry for ping-pong
Could you, by chance, extend this gui...
honestly don’t know how, I’ve never tried
old wyvern
Happy new year!
prisma wave
I tried connecting to a server that's running in an oracle vps instance, but had...
A pre-existing mc server? Is the debug port open?
wind patio
A pre-existing mc server? Is the debug port open?
yeah.
well, as far as I could figure it out, it was open.
I don't remember exactly, but I think I tried to ping the port, it was fine, but I couldn't attach the debugger
well, I added TCP/UDP,
then I added all, still no luck
This is as far as I get
potent nest
Sounds like it doesn’t get a response
obtuse gale
Is the port on the OS firewall open? iptables or what has you
wind patio
well, I added the port via ufw, still no luck. probably still missing something
also, wut
wind patio
well, I added TCP/UDP,
then I added all, still no luck
yeah I also added the ports in their subnet configuration
prisma wave
u need to use iptables as well as the web firewall
iirc
Running Uncomplicated Firewall (UFW) on Ubuntu images might cause issues with these rules. Because of this, we recommend that you do not enable UFW on your instances.
wind patio
well, I disabled the ufw, and I removed the iptables via
sudo cp /etc/iptables/rules.v4 /etc/iptables/rules.v4.bak && sudo truncate -s 0 /etc/iptables/rules.v4
prisma wave
well you need to use iptables to allow the port lol
does telnet <ip> 5005 do anything?
mint tusk
yo
prisma wave
hello
wind patio
am I dumb or what
prisma wave
prisma wave
am I dumb or what
it's --dport not -dport
mint tusk
alr
wind patio
it's `--dport` not `-dport`
bruv
sudo iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 5005 -j ACCEPT did the job
prisma wave
splendid
wind patio
pingpong
mint tusk
what image service
wind patio
imgur?
etc.
if it keeps crashing the logs would probably tell you more than us seeing a screenshot
wind patio
well it clearly says it's an issue with drivers
wind patio
usually you fix by downloading correct and working drivers
or it's an issue with your graphics card and you might not be able to solve it. (not a certified technician here, might not be the case)
obtuse gale
> Running Uncomplicated Firewall (UFW) on Ubuntu images might cause issues with ...
wat
isn't ufw literally just a wrapper around iptables?
in any case it works fine for me lol
prisma wave
yeah idfk
but
¯_(ツ)_/¯
ufw didnt work for me
back when my account wasnt banned
😒
dry panther
hello
half harness
ufw didnt work for me
Ha
Did you use oracle linux
prisma wave
no
dry panther
how do i fix EzRankupPro rankup per group? to make not reset by Luckperms group?
half harness
But the firewall on wrbsite
half harness
<#164280494874165248>
dry panther
Mb
ocean quartz
Solution to the whole problem of finding the right name for implementations of interfaces, just ask ChatGPT 
pastel imp
someone somehow make this an intellij plugin xD
prisma wave
?
obtuse gale
yeah it's called github copilot
agile galleon
yeah it's called github copilot
how do you ask copilot questions?
with comments or
half harness
yes
agile galleon
damn
agile galleon
yeah ive used that feature
prisma wave
copilot should say :nokotlin: when you try that
obtuse gale
it wasn't a joke
sweet rune
When im using the Flame particle it creates like a explosion instead of just staying in place (trying to make a flame circle around a player). is there a way to fix this?
solemn laurel
set the speed of the particle to zero. oops, someone already answered in a diff chat
dense dew
copilot should say :nokotlin: when you try that
right it should help you how to rewrite it into crab language
prisma wave
no it shouldnt
obtuse gale
more like crap language
prisma wave
yes!
pastel imp
Stupid question that will become even more stupid after you read it. Any way to "force use" mongodb in a public plugin (or plugin that I am not able to change) that uses mysql? In some way "translate" it to mongodb?
PS: this is mainly out of curiosity, I know making it myself directly is simply better at the end lol.
obtuse gale
no
prisma wave
not at all
drifting yoke
User user = new Gson().fromJson(re, User.class);
re.close();```is closing the bufferedreader enough or do i need to close the filereader as well?
pastel imp
no
okay thanks :3
Also, pros and cons on making a full custom coded server vs using public plugins?
half harness
``` BufferedReader re = new BufferedReader(new FileReader("/data/users/" + usern...
its enough but use try-with-resources ```java
try (BufferedReader re = new BufferedReader(new FileReader("/data/users/" + username + ".json"))) {
User user = new Gson().fromJson(re, User.class);
}
Ive put the exception on the method
half harness
Ive put the exception on the method
nono this isn't a try-catch
this is different
a try-with-resources automatically closes whatever you put in the () for you
you can also put multiple stuff by separating it with a ;
drifting yoke
Oh okay
sweet cipher
public abstract Collection<? extends AnimationTemplate<?, ?>> getAnimationTemplates();
for (AnimationTemplate<?, ?> data : multiAnimationTemplate.getAnimationTemplates())
Required type: Object
Provided: AnimationTemplate<?, ?>
What?
I feel stupid but why does this not work
I'm so confused
This is the AnimationTemplate class
public abstract class AnimationTemplate<T extends Animation, B extends AnimationBuilder<T, B>>
prisma wave
Any particular reason for using ? extends?
sweet cipher
Just to see if it fixed it
I tried without it too
This is how I'm calling it
if (template instanceof final MultiAnimationTemplate multiAnimationTemplate) {
for (AnimationTemplate<?, ?> child : multiAnimationTemplate.getAnimationTemplates()) {
this.save(child);
}
return;
}
This doesn't work either
public abstract Collection<AnimationTemplate<?, ?>> getAnimationTemplates();
I just tried changing it to public abstract Collection<String> getAnimationTemplates(); and that doesn't work either
This is the whole class:
public abstract class MultiAnimationTemplate<T extends Animation, B extends AnimationBuilder<T, B>> extends AnimationTemplate<T, B> {
public MultiAnimationTemplate(BlockAnimator plugin, String typeId, boolean loop, boolean reverse, int tickDelay, List<PlayerFunction> playerFunctions, ListMultimap<Integer, AnimationEffect> tickAnimationEffects) {
super(plugin, typeId, loop, reverse, tickDelay, playerFunctions, tickAnimationEffects);
}
public MultiAnimationTemplate(BlockAnimator plugin, String typeId, boolean loop, boolean reverse, int tickDelay, List<PlayerFunction> playerFunctions) {
super(plugin, typeId, loop, reverse, tickDelay, playerFunctions);
}
public MultiAnimationTemplate(BlockAnimator plugin, String typeId, boolean loop, boolean reverse, int tickDelay) {
super(plugin, typeId, loop, reverse, tickDelay);
}
public abstract Collection<AnimationTemplate<?, ?>> getAnimationTemplates();
}
It works if I use an implementation of the class like this:
if (template instanceof final ChainedAnimation.Template multiAnimationTemplate)
idk why the abstract class wouldn't work
agile galleon
https://upload.skyslycer.de/Discord_AeGgvBUqR3.png what am i missing
agile galleon
yes
sweet cipher
I just tried changing it to ` public abstract Collection<String> getAnimationTem...
It doesn't work with that either
Like it still treats it as just an Object
sweet cipher
```java
public abstract class MultiAnimationTemplate<T extends Animation, B exte...
I edited this
sweet cipher
Any particular reason for using `? extends`?
Please help me I am so confused
If I say Haskell is amazing will you fix it?
Wait I figured it out
I had to do MultiAnimationTemplate -> MultiAnimationTemplate<?, ?>
Idk why that would cause the issue, and also idk why IntelliJ didn't give a warning for not having the generics
If someone could explain why that would happen I would appreciate it too, because I don't understand why that would happen even if I didn't add the generics, because the generics weren't used in the return type of the method
obtuse gale
agile galleon
you defo work at oracle
obtuse gale
jesus fucking christ Fish what is that constructor
sweet cipher
Does it make you feel better that the only time the constructor is actually used is in a Builder?
sweet cipher
Also I can’t tell if this one is making fun of me or not
I probably should separate out the constructor at some point though
Realistically though separating it out would probably just end up being more of a pain then it’s worth, and I would have to figure out the best way to separate the parameters because they’re all pretty much related
obtuse gale
Does it make you feel better that the only time the constructor is actually used...
Yes
obtuse gale
Also I can’t tell if this one is making fun of me or not
Not you specifically 😃
sweet cipher
lol
sinful geyser
for (String l : meta.getLore()) {
if (l.contains(ChatColor.GRAY + "Raw Blocks Mined: ")) {
String numericString = l.replaceAll("[^0-9]", "");
int mined = Integer.parseInt(numericString);
newLore.add(ChatColor.GRAY + "Raw Blocks Mined: " + ChatColor.YELLOW + (mined + 1));
}
else {
newLore.add(l);
}
}
so i have this that executes every time someone mines a block but instead of just counting up by 1 every single time it adds a 7 in the front... does anyone have a clue why?
half harness
```java
for (String l : meta.getLore()) {
if (l.contains(ChatCol...
try ChatColor.stripColors(l).replaceAll(...) - if you're using gray as the color then it'll use the 7 from §7
(also #development)
past bone
humble prism
!notdiscord
!discord
Well those eidnt work
This is not for discord help
Its for minecraft
worthy violet
hey can someone remind me of the name of the server software for Minecraft that is very barebone doesn't even have player data file storage. It was a server software in java but it was just the bare bone of a server, AI wasn't implemented yet and needed to be coded, its was meant to be a good template for anyone creating a minigame that doesn't need all the features that the base Minecraft server has.
Found it! ||https://minestom.net/||
wind patio
is it possible to view and interact with a linux screen with the same user account?
issue is, the server owner usually connects to the console to monitor the server
then I can't connect myself
or the only solution is to use tmux?
young trail
the server is stuck at [14:17:17] [Server thread/INFO]: Preparing level "crmapin"
[14:17:18] [Server thread/INFO]: Reloading ResourceManager: Default, bukkit
unique owl
how can I change global placeholder?
I have %event_active%
and I want to change it from one server, so it affects all servers under BungeeCord
drifting yoke
If i convert an object to json file that already exists, will it replace the previous one?
brittle leaf
probably
potent nest
depends on how you're doing it
drifting yoke
I'm just doing a toJson thing
potent nest
that doesn't tell how writing to disk is done
potent nest
💀
agile galleon
Well then youre overwritint obviously
potent nest
yeah, file.write is what's writing to the file, not related to json at all
agile galleon
Maybe look at the documentation xD?
drifting yoke
What I want to do is simply just overwrite. I don't think editing it would be efficient
potent nest
documentation will tell you
sick belfry
extremely stupid question but its been a while since I have touched java and I forgor, how do you trim a double to only use 2 decimals?
I'm doing some physics simulations and the doubles are fucking huge
also dont ask why java
obtuse gale
wouldn't you need the accuracy if you're doing physics simulation? why get rid of it?
sick belfry
wouldn't you need the accuracy if you're doing physics simulation? why get rid o...
but for the part when I'm showing to the user
its like an engine
for a project I'm doing
and I dont want to show the person who uses it absolutely huge numbers
potent nest
use string formatting
fierce bone
emm where i can make suggestion?
anyway if someone developer read this: can you make when we can make more folder on deluxemenu?
bc im working on one big project where we use deluxemenu and we have over 100+ yml file, who is the same gui_menu and we starting testing if we can make multiple folder where we can working but deluxemenu only allow use 2folder main 😦
brittle leaf
anyway if someone developer read this: can you make when we can make more folde...
uhh afaik you can have more then one folder
like just specific the path
so like uhh menufolder/thismenu.yml or smth like that
it could be a backslash
i cant remember
fierce bone
you mean make inside gui_menus folder other folder?
brittle leaf
yeah
fierce bone
but how to make to working that is inside that folder?
brittle leaf
some like
fierce bone
ty
sterile lance
Hello, I am creating a server in 1.18.2 and I created my little shop with the currency of Vault and Essentials. I would like to put another currency system that people can buy on the store and create a small cosmetic shop on DeluxeMenu, however I would like to know another currency plugin that is compatible with DeluxeMenu ^^
quiet depot
@wind patio did you figure it out that quick
wind patio
im not sure, maybe
changed the order of include, rebuilding now
cuz my sub B depends on A, but I include B first
compact perchBOT
There is no time to wait! Ask your question @pale timber!
quiet depot
cool
that's a big commitment
what if I don't know the answer
I don't trust you
I've never met you
I don't know you
quiet depot
is that link meant to crash your discord
lavish notch
I can only assume since they left after posting.
quiet depot
I banned them but think they left first
obtuse gale
There is no time to wait! Ask your question @pale timber!
solemn laurel
i need help
compact perchBOT
There is no time to wait! Ask your question @solemn laurel!
zealous orchid
sad
agile galleon
resource pack
and im pretty sure that thats not the bubble ui
just custom font which has the letters much lower than normal
if you put the letters into the action bar, they appear there
foggy pond
That is really clever actually
So you recon there is no action bar messages
i know it's a resource pack, just couldnt figure out how this worked
ocean quartz
You can still do action bar messages and have the actionbar be the UI at the same time
foggy pond
You can still do action bar messages and have the actionbar be the UI at the sam...
Wha
How even