nah, just get another mail icon
#dev-general
distant sun
lavish notch
nah, just get another mail icon
So you think all black is better than having them with their colours?
Also, do you know of a good mail icon?
I just went with GMAIL since I couldn't find any I liked.
Here is how the colours look.
distant sun
Also, do you know of a good mail icon?
fontawesome?
or the alternatives
all black or all coloured
lavish notch
all black or all coloured
Which do you prefer?
I'm no designer, which is why I'm unsure and struggling to decide.
distant sun
Here is how the colours look.
this looks fine
lavish notch
Thanks for the opinion. π€
distant sun
have you never seen an american movie? 
static zealot
Haha
rotund egret
Idk what that means
distant sun
Name a movie, before 2015 or something at least, where teenagers look like teenagers 
distant sun
rotund egret
Like released before 2015?
distant sun
Ye
rotund egret
Fuck that was so long ago
distant sun
Probably the new ones hire some actors that look more like teenagers
rotund egret
I can think of a few tv shows, but movies are lost on me that far back
rotund egret
As an American I wasn't sure.
Maybe there Is a belief american filmography is obsessed with child sexuality netflix
distant sun
Well not really, but most movies I've seen that had teenagers didn't do a great job at picking actors
Spider-Man is an example, tobey maguire looks like he's in his late 20's
Idk how old he's supposed to be, probably 16
distant sun
25
distant sun
Spider-Man spent years in development hell, and when the project finally got a release date, it was pushed back a year, so it officially began filming in early 2001. At that point, Maguire was 26 years old, and Peter Parker was a high-school senior, with the script referring to him as a 17-year-old.
distant sun
anyways, I think they could have done a better job for some characters
or maybe that's just how american teenagers look like 
distant sun
https://youtu.be/aIx2N-viNwY
didn't watch the video, but maybe because when you are younger you spend the time playing games for example, and when you grow up and get a job, you can't wait for the day to finish so you can get home lol
rotund egret
It has a lot to do with unique experiences
You have less as an adult so your mind doesn't tie a frame
As often*
distant sun
yeah, probably
doing the same thing 5 times a week or more, for 8 hours is not the greatest experience
distant sun
yeah but doing night shifts or 12h with less work days/week isn't any better
rotund egret
No it isnt
distant sun
can we not work part time and get the money of a full time job?
distant sun
4h/day is more than enough π€£
rotund egret
3 days a week^
distant sun
sign me in
static zealot
doing the same thing 5 times a week or more, for 8 hours is not the greatest exp...
That sounds exactly like my childhood ngl.
static zealot
are these made by you or are these actually the shirts we'll get?
dense dew
actually the shirts we'll get
static zealot
interesting
ngl. I wasn't expecting art. I was just expecting them to put the big logo and the name in the front like they did last year. I do not mind these tho. they're pretty nice
static zealot
ngl. I wasn't expecting art. I was just expecting them to put the big logo and t...
not just last year. that's what they did every year
dense dew
yeah they are pretty cool (i like 2020 tshirt more tho)
i cant decide what color to choose
dense dew
hmm tru
static zealot
while I Like it, I have a very extensive history of destroying white clothing
static zealot
wdym which
I can see the confusion since usually they have the year in bold letters on the front. this year they don't have it at all. Instead they have an interesting design that I actually don't know what it represents
static zealot
I can see the confusion since usually they have the year in bold letters on the ...
I guess they do have it. even the month on the ships
9 and 22
distant sun
Not a fan of anime, but the look okay-ish
static zealot
nah. I think it's great
static zealot
you still got it. just on the back. I like this more. just a clean front and a nice animation on the back
distant sun
I guess
dense dew
gray 100%
well the back part looks better on white version and front (which is just small logo) is better on gray part imo so
static zealot
well the back part looks better on white version and front (which is just small ...
Yeah. I feel that. Tho I like the colored letters look better on the gray back as well
on the white one, there's places where you can barely see them. I guess we'll just have to wait for the tshirt and see how they'll actually look in real life
dense dew
π€
hot hull
That's sick
obtuse gale
dude that's so fucking cool!
old wyvern
didn't watch the video, but maybe because when you are younger you spend the tim...
Fashion percevance etc
distant sun
Lets goo
distant sun
Also, this holopin thing is cool https://www.holopin.io/@GabyTM
copper delta
can someone please tell me why the
left-click-command :
- '[player] tpa {target}'
like this isnt working?
it just tells that cannot the tp that player name
pastel imp
yo quite interesting, how exactly does hacktoberfest work? I have heard of it but never participated. I know it works by contributing to OS projects but are they like, any or only from a specific list?
cobalt marlin
yo quite interesting, how exactly does hacktoberfest work? I have heard of it bu...
join their discord, people share their projects there constantly and all the info you need is there too
dense dew
yo quite interesting, how exactly does hacktoberfest work? I have heard of it bu...
first 40k people w 4 merged PRs (or PR with hacktoberfest-accepted tag ) on github/gitlab repo w tag hacktoberfest gets tshirt and some stickers
pastel imp
first 40k people w 4 merged PRs (or PR with hacktoberfest-accepted tag ) on gith...
oh that's cool
although probably not many left xD
pastel imp
first 40k people w 4 merged PRs (or PR with hacktoberfest-accepted tag ) on gith...
wait it needs to have the hacktoberfest tag?
hmm okay, I suppose it's not an issue for me
the projects I am interested in contributing have it
dense dew
wait it needs to have the hacktoberfest tag?
yes
hot hull
You generally have like 2 weeks to get all the commits in
pastel imp
You generally have like 2 weeks to get all the commits in
wdym
oh for the tshirts
eh not doing it for the tshirts
tshirts would be just a bonus
mainly doing it to start contributing to projects, since I don't have any experience on that side of the world
lol
dense dew
eh not doing it for the tshirts
doing it for the tshirt π doing it for the stickers πͺ
pastel imp
xD
marble knoll
Can someone help me find a tutorial for the Custom GUI's from the Deluxe Menus Plugin?
dense dew
examples should be enough tho https://wiki.helpch.at/clips-plugins/deluxemenus/example-gui-menus
hot hull
doing it for the tshirt π doing it for the stickers πͺ
Mate doing it for both is the way to go, not that I have anywhere to put the stickers, but gotta keep em coming
pastel imp
Most people in Hacktoberfest: Let me find a project and change some lines
Me in Hacktoberfest: Reworks the whole index page of the project
hot hull
October came at the wrong time
pastel imp
xD
static zealot
Nice. Still got to wait 1 day but I'm ordering the gray one.
1 day and 12 hours actually.
static zealot
filezilla. I haven't heard anything about that app in years
distant sun
yeah I need to transfer a large amount of files from a friend's pc
pastel imp
1 day and 12 hours actually.
how does that even work, never done a hacktoberfest
you gotta wait for approval on your PRs and then you gotta wait again to get the tshirt?
a bit confused
static zealot
you gotta wait for approval on your PRs and then you gotta wait again to get the...
You make a PR, and after it gets accepted by the maintainers you have to wait 7 days for it to get accepted/rejected by hacktoberfest. Only after they also accept it, it counts towards the 4 PRs you have to make
to get the shirt
pastel imp
You make a PR, and after it gets accepted by the maintainers you have to wait 7 ...
is it specifically 7 days or can it be less?
hot hull
It's minimum 7 days
hot hull
So better get on it if you want a shirt
pastel imp
So better get on it if you want a shirt
first one done, waiting for approval
I am not one of those who just changes a tiny thing lol
me works
hot hull
A contribution is a contribution, so long it actually benefits the project
static zealot
pastel imp
A contribution is a contribution, so long it actually benefits the project
yes sure, although I was pointing at those who literally just rephrase a readme or something and change like 2 lines.
(to an almost identical message)
how do I link my holopin account with hacktoberfest? found it
using the same email
half harness
Spigot libraries (plugin.yml) - is it safe to use? Bc it doesn't relocate
cobalt marlin
ye
whole idea is to share depencencies
if they are shared between multiple plugins
static zealot
yes sure, although I was pointing at those who literally just rephrase a readme ...
That's why hacktoberfest has a verification system. Spam PRs are against the rules.
half harness
What if a dev shades the same dep without relocating? Would that possibly cause an issue
half harness
whole idea is to share depencencies
Hmmm
So it's all shared
That could cause some issues
With specific libraries
static zealot
if 2 projects shade the same dependencies and none of them relocate, it will cause issues.
half harness
But I mean using spigot library feature
half harness
I thought they made it like private to the plugin class loader or smth
half harness
idk what that is tbh
Oh π it's been out since 1.16 i think
U put maven deps in Plugin. Yml and spigot downloads them
static zealot
Oh π it's been out since 1.16 i think
U put maven deps in Plugin. Yml and spigo...
haven't heard about it
half harness
static zealot
interesting
half harness
Yea
Although I have a lib where u put ur plugin instance
For logging etc
Which I don't want shared with other plugins
I might test that later
Not home rn tho
half harness
I might test that later
Oh wait then I'd have to put that in mvn central... Hm
I'll prob print out the class to String or smth
cobalt marlin
Yea
Although I have a lib where u put ur plugin instance
its mainly for drivers and such honestly
no point shading postgresql driver twice for example
cobalt marlin
that defeats the purpose completely
half harness
I also used slimjar but probably due to the amount of dependencies it took 10+ mins to build
cobalt marlin
over and over again
like hikaricp is shaded
into so many plugins
same with adventure etc
i am not sure how it handles different versions of the same dependency though
distant sun
is so that not everyone has to shade the same things
What about version differences?
Plugin x used an older version of lib y and plugin z used a newer version
cobalt marlin
What about version differences?
that i am not sure honestly myself
but i am guessing it works similiar to gradle etc with those
you probably have to resolve it somehow either by relocating or something else
distant sun
Yeah, I don't see a perfect system other than relocation, which isn't perfect either
Your plugin will randomly load libraries from other plugins, even if you have it in your jar as well, which is the most annoying thing imo
The system should have a priority thing, first check the plugin jar then other jars
cobalt marlin
imho its good for stuff like sql
everything else
not so much
but i am guessing you can have stuff like 1.2.+ etc
definition on gradle
so you could depend on multiple and it handles the rest possibly?
distant sun
The system should have a priority thing, first check the plugin jar then other j...
This would be great tbh, then we wouldn't need to relocate stuff 
cobalt marlin
This would be great tbh, then we wouldn't need to relocate stuff <:pleadingUWU:9...
it should just integrate proper maven or gradle honestly
and not do this weird stuff imho
these issues are already solved no need to reinvent it
obtuse gale
spigot library loader is stinky
potent nest
u r
obtuse gale
WHAT
potent nest
just joking 
obtuse gale
distant sun
spigot library loader is stinky
spigot β
obtuse gale
huh
distant sun
quasi sleet
hello
cobalt marlin
does anyone know where this color in intellij is changed?
i like my current theme, but this is hella hard to read
its the .gitignored file color being invisible on w.e. that bright-ish color on the background is
turns out, its just the color for project-excluded files.
obtuse gale
yeah
half harness
π
prisma wave
no problem
rotund egret
Any time
prisma wave
π
pastel imp
sus
inner beacon
Im trying to make it so when you break that list of ores it doubles the amount
Im not sure why it does not work please help.
@Override
public void onEnable() {
}
private static final Set<Material> ORES = EnumSet.of(
Material.COAL_ORE, Material.COPPER_ORE, Material.DIAMOND_ORE, Material.EMERALD_ORE,
Material.GOLD_ORE, Material.IRON_ORE, Material.LAPIS_ORE, Material.REDSTONE_ORE,
Material.DEEPSLATE_COAL_ORE, Material.DEEPSLATE_COPPER_ORE, Material.DEEPSLATE_DIAMOND_ORE,
Material.DEEPSLATE_EMERALD_ORE, Material.DEEPSLATE_GOLD_ORE, Material.DEEPSLATE_IRON_ORE,
Material.DEEPSLATE_LAPIS_ORE, Material.DEEPSLATE_REDSTONE_ORE, Material.NETHER_GOLD_ORE,
Material.NETHER_QUARTZ_ORE
);
@EventHandler
public void doubleOres(BlockBreakEvent event) {
Player player = event.getPlayer();
if (!ORES.contains(event.getBlock().getType())) {
return;
}
event.setDropItems(false);
Block block = event.getBlock();
ItemStack hand = player.getInventory().getItemInMainHand();
if (hand.containsEnchantment(Enchantment.SILK_TOUCH)) {
return;
}
block.getDrops(hand, player).forEach(stack -> {
ItemStack multiplied = stack.clone();
multiplied.setAmount(multiplied.getAmount() * 2);
block.getWorld().dropItemNaturally(block.getLocation(), multiplied);
});
}
@Override
public void onDisable() {
// Plugin shutdown logic
}
}
register your event
also #development
inner beacon
Oh-
sweet cipher
private static final π
Thatβs what I would do, whatβs wrong with it?
pastel imp
Thatβs what I would do, whatβs wrong with it?
Unsure if its needed.
sweet cipher
What would you suggest instead?
pastel imp
What would you suggest instead?
No idea, might just be saying shit, 6am and I only slept a few hours, sorry if I am stupid
sweet cipher
Lol itβs fine, I should be asleep too
potent nest
ok cool
potent nest
I don't even know anything about your problem
oak acorn
So basically if someone is holding a totem and it pops it logs as a death.
And the attacker gets a heart from it (Lifesteal)
oak acorn
I don't even know anything about your problem
Thats it
potent nest
I don't see any problem
potent nest
no
obtuse gale
ok
primal crystal
private static final π
Each keyword has its own purposeβ¦
cobalt marlin
private static final π
its a constant, its quite fine
pastel imp
uh thought we all agreed I was wrong and sleepy lol
I am aware of that now that I am fully myself lol
rancid verge
I asked someone to make me a Lifesteal pl addon. But I canceled it cus of miscommunication. I deleted the DM. And I really need to talk to that dev. Any ideas
hot hull
You got any built jars? If so could perhaps see if they use their name in the path
rancid verge
No
hot hull
Where did you find them
half harness
Isn't there like a website which shows all your dms
rancid verge
In this server
rancid verge
Isn't there like a website which shows all your dms
Really
half harness
If you upload the discord data
rancid verge
Where did you find them
We had like 5 mutual servers
rancid verge
If you upload the discord data
How do I do that
dense dew
If you upload the discord data
discordpackage.com maybe?
uneven lark
Do any of you have experience running beta tests with 75+ live players?
Without already having the community standing by
We've been paying streamers to bring the players, but I'm wondering if there are other tried and true methods to get sufficient player testing done
obtuse gale
I've faced similar issues but the best way is to advertise your server in SNS and gather people. We somehow got 100 players online at beta test. And we got 200 players on release, until we got no player online 2 weeks later π
even if you don't have enough players you can still use plugman to update your plugins without stopping the server
That's at least what i did after release
cobalt marlin
even if you don't have enough players you can still use plugman to update your p...
plugman 
rotund egret
I wouldn't reccomend plugman
rotund egret
It's moreso the way bukkit does it that causes issues
obtuse gale
Devs, or at least i know why hotreloading causes problems, and how not to cause problems on reloading so
rotund egret
That's more of a per plugin not a fancy way of you reloading them?
cobalt marlin
there is not much you can do to not cause problems from the outside
obtuse gale
if a problem arises i can just debug
rotund egret
Yeah I don't care what you choose to do, but I wouldn't go around suggesting plugman, because it's not ideal for anything.
obtuse gale
even if you don't have enough players you can still use plugman to update your p...
i wouldn't either for plugins you don't know/you don't make. that's why i said "your" plugins
rotund egret
I feel like you're reaching here.
Do you not have a single plugin that isn't yours on the server?
obtuse gale
I don't reload a plugin i don't make?
rotund egret
I guess
obtuse gale
Why does that matter
cobalt marlin
i wouldn't either for plugins you don't know/you don't make. that's why i said "...
this is fair, if your plugin supports it proper
no reason not to do it
rotund egret
PlugWoman moment
hot hull
plugman shite
cobalt marlin
although, i do agree on not recommending it to others
hot hull
It takes 3 seconds to restart a server (5 at best), if you can't wait that and have it properly "restart" a plugin, then don't restart it at all
cobalt marlin
It takes 3 seconds to restart a server (5 at best), if you can't wait that and h...
well, the idea** is more so that you do it on a production server
so your players dont disconnect
hot hull
You shouldn't be restarting your production server more than once anyways
And plugins which keep the player on the server during a restart exist
cobalt marlin
if you are running a test of sorts with players i think its a valid concern
on production, just make a proper maintenance though
hot hull
Test and customize shit on your dev server
Once it's all confirmed working, throw it on production
and either schedule a restart, or wait for a daily restart to apply the changes
rotund egret
- backups
hot hull
Plugman is just an excuse for stupidity
cobalt marlin
we are talking about different things
read their original message
when you have 50+ players log in to test your gamemode / plugin / server w.e.
cobalt marlin
Test and customize shit on your dev server
this is out of the scope is my point though, that was not what they were saying
plugman being shit, we all agree i think
obtuse gale
And plugins which keep the player on the server during a restart exist
isnr that a bungeecord plugin? it's still bad for user experience
obtuse gale
my keyboard is half broken
hot hull
We've been using it for years, and it's way more convenient than having them disconnect
Like 10 seconds of waiting and jumping and running around is better than having to reconnect don't you think?
brittle leaf
tbh i dont restart my servers unless im adding/removing plugins
old wyvern
quiet depot
what's fleet?
prisma wave
?
quiet depot
is that the vs code competitor
prisma wave
yes
prisma wave
piggy living under a rock
old wyvern
Lol
old wyvern
Last year?
quiet depot
thanks
eternal compass
I want to try fleet soon
Been waiting for it for ages
So I don't need to use np++ to edit text files
quiet depot
when I get the chance I'll have a little look at it
I've not really got any reason to switch from sublime though so
we'll see
prisma wave
yeah unfortunately it's not really at full capability yet
when it's finished it should be great
quiet depot
yeah I'll probs wait till it's a bit more polished before I trial it
frail glade
Yeah, probs wait till after you finish papi 3.
distant sun
got one set of exams left
Papi 3??
quiet depot
yes papi 3
distant sun
Good
quiet depot
but I think chat chat is a little more important
quiet depot
ok well I'm still gonna do a few chat chat issues because I need my hacktoberfest shirt
frail glade
π
distant sun
Ok fair
obtuse gale
No
eternal compass
Can you make 'em?
primal crystal
What is fleet plugin support like?
there isn't any currently
obtuse gale
I don't know
primal crystal
Can you make 'em?
Their blogpost told, they will work on it on the future
quiet depot
jb will probs make enough plugins to be able to turn fleet into ij
obtuse gale
I mean keeping in mind that a) it's been in closed beta until now and b) it's in preview, I don't expect this to be power-productivity useful for a good while, at the very least until it's released
eternal compass
Oh ofc
static zealot
So I don't need to use np++ to edit text files
sublime text π
prisma wave
neovim π
ocean quartz
Atom π
rotund egret
I actually hate most text editors
They're either disapointing and featureless or exciting and bloated
prisma wave
emacs
rotund egret
Have yet to use, might give a go
sly sonnet
Love how helpful are Orelio's console client error messages π
eternal compass
They're either disapointing and featureless or exciting and bloated
^
I want a text editor that isn't useless
but also launches quickly
static zealot
sublime π¦
eternal compass
Tried sublime, it's fine
static zealot
you don't need anything more than fine
static zealot
probably the annoying purchase popup that shows every now and then if you haven't paid for it
static zealot
it's paid!?
well. it's similar to how WinRar works. you can get it for free but you get a popup asking you to buy it if you like it xD
it's not every time tho just every now and then
eternal compass
ah
static zealot
it's like $100 for a lifetime license but only 3 years of updates.
sly sonnet
Why not winrar?
onyx loom
why winrar is a better question
rotund egret
7zip doesn't have a nag screen
onyx loom
7z is better in every way possible
rotund egret
works for a lot of file formats, I remember having issues with winrar
That was a long time ago, so maybe I was just stuipid
rotund egret
imagine that
obtuse gale
last time i used winrar it didn't lol
prisma wave
plus FOSS is always a W
rotund egret
Anyway, if I find time I might try and load IJs liteeditor as my default and see how that flows
rotund egret
I'm not on windows so it's not a good time
but I did look it up and it's pretty easy I think
obtuse gale
Anyway, if I find time I might try and load IJs liteeditor as my default and see...
it's just
meh
it's a text editor
rotund egret
I just like the multiline editing tbh
and it seems to load fairly quickly which is also very nice
prisma wave
neovim / emacs supremacy
lunarvim is rather cute in my experience
looks nice and supports LSPs out of the box
cinder flare
neovim / emacs supremacy
obtuse gale
Star
tribal reef
How can i open a report?
static zealot
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No, i mean i got scammed by a guy
static zealot
if it happened in this discord server then you can use /report or DM @compact perch
tribal reef
Okay, thanks!
distant sun
When is spigot going to fix the problem with images ffs
distant sun
π
frail mist
How to learn coding?
rotund egret
frail mist
There are so many sites videos do u know with wich one you started
pastel imp
thoughts on Fleet?
obtuse gale
communist propaganda
rotund egret
I've been using it for some Rust stuff and it's been neat
rotund egret
Spent 5 minutes trying to convert an array to a vector only to realize that's not so easily done
Overthinking challenge 
obtuse gale
someone will probably tell you to let copilot do it
rotund egret
I cannot use copilot π¦
obtuse gale
capitalist propaganda
dense dew
im anarchocapitqlist using arch and rust btw π π¦
rotund egret
You really butchered that
hard dagger
thoughts on Fleet?
Ik its only a text editor but i wish it had more settings ij has
dense dew
wdym? what settings
rotund egret
It's a little more than just a text editor
distant sun
this is the first public (pre)release though
pastel imp
Ik its only a text editor but i wish it had more settings ij has
I mean... you can always activate smart mode
pastel imp
this is the first public (pre)release though
true, just a preview
hard dagger
wdym? what settings
Plugins, ui font, live templates, navigation and toolbar options
distant sun
Fleet should be an editor similar to VSC but powered by intellij core
hard dagger
Also pretty much has no groovy support
distant sun
So, another amazing tool π
rotund egret
It has groovy support?
hard dagger
Only syntax highlighting
distant sun
IDEA moment
rotund egret
What more do you need π
hard dagger
Bruh
distant sun
I swear they want us to use kts over groovy
hard dagger
Im not
distant sun
testing what lol
distant sun
kts is nice though
yeah but my point is, the groovy support is so bad xD
hard dagger
Lots of ppl write tests in groovy
rotund egret
Yeah that was a clear hyperbolic statement
hard dagger
testing what lol
My code?
rotund egret
I write my tests in Java or Kt
distant sun
what's the benefit of using groovy to write tests?
rotund egret
groovy syntax
hard dagger
I usually do but groovy being dynamic can help out a lot
distant sun
ok I guess
hard dagger
And i love spock
rotund egret
I forget which one it is, Junit or maybe one of the other ones, has a @Data annotation you can use for datasets, it was very nice when I used it.
distant sun
Interesting, I saw a similar framework, Cucumber
cucumber - and this translates to code
rotund egret
Oh it translates literal speech into code?
distant sun
you write this in .feature files and then it generates the class and everything for you
I find it interesting how Given today is "<day>" turns into
@Given("today is {string}")
public void today_is(String today)
idk what that means, I haven't used it yet
Feature: Is it Friday yet?
Everybody wants to know when it's Friday
Scenario Outline: Today is or is not Friday
Given today is "<day>"
When I ask whether it's Friday yet
Then I should be told "<answer>"
Examples:
| day | answer |
| Friday | TGIF |
| Sunday | Nope |
| anything else! | Nope |```you can probably import the data from other places as well if you don't like this table structure
distant sun
I do automation testing with selenium and this was brought in discussions a few times, I might use it if I ever have to start a project from 0 on my own
hard dagger
Whats selenium
distant sun
https://www.selenium.dev/ - a library for browser automation
idk how you would integrate these two together but since they were mentioned together, I guess it is possible
actually nvm, it should be quite simple, since they do different things
inner wigeon
prisma wave
same
distant sun
Why do people use bitbucket in business, it is literally dog shit
brittle leaf
broken code doesnt exist, unintended features do
brittle leaf
Undocumented*
yes that sounds better
llike items getting deleted from custom inventories, basically a good method of battling inflation
halcyon leaf
Guys I need some help.
I am trying to set up a shop with custom currency, but I am unable to get the click requirements right. Can someone please help me with it? It doesn't include money currency instead it has tokens and gems currency from other plugin
distant sun
brittle leaf
people constantly post their plugin problems in the dev channel on another discord and its quite irritating
distant sun
this is new
obtuse gale
no
distant sun
I didn't ask for an answer @obtuse gale
obtuse gale
i do not care
distant sun
Ok
pastel imp
bruh I don't understand people that want me to send the jar first before payment sus
they always use the excuse "I already got scammed once like this"
cool, does that make every developer a scammer now? lol
could say the same thing lmao, oh well
inner umbra
they always use the excuse "I already got scammed once like this"
Just say, "same".
You could also ask for a certain amount upfront.
worthy violet
So I tried to use paperweightdev with ProtocolLib to test my plugin but I am getting a java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/comphenix/protocol/ProtocolLibrary error with this config : https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/c1a64c8dbeef4ccf8b948d645ca6eaed
rotund egret
Do.you have it available at runtime?
worthy violet
I am use to maven where I shade it into the jar but I do have the jar in the plugins folder but I am misisng it in the jar
distant sun
Dont shade plib
worthy violet
huh what am I missing then I got the lib added and in the plugin folder
worthy violet
ah turns out its not ready for 1.19 mojang-mapped servers
half harness
ah turns out its not ready for 1.19 mojang-mapped servers
Dev builds should work for 1.19, not sure what you mean by mojang mapped
cobalt marlin
ah turns out its not ready for 1.19 mojang-mapped servers
why are you running a mojang mapped server anyway
just re obf it
half harness
Plugins should be the one using mapped then reobf btw
worthy violet
why are you running a mojang mapped server anyway
Becausse I am using it to hot swap code which doesn't work if I have to reobf the code everytime I hot swap
worthy violet
Dev builds should work for 1.19, not sure what you mean by mojang mapped
I just built v5.0.0 and It still doesn't work I'll just wait for them to update it
cobalt marlin
not sure if they support mojang mapped servers directly honestly
brittle leaf
i never had any issues with protocollib dependency even while using mojang mappings tho id always reobfscate with md5 plugin soo
obtuse gale
I believe they're talking about using mojmap during runtime, not only in source
cobalt marlin
I believe they're talking about using mojmap during runtime, not only in source
this
worthy violet
I believe they're talking about using mojmap during runtime, not only in source
correct
half harness
I just built v5.0.0 and It still doesn't work I'll just wait for them to update ...
They probably won't ever support it - it's been a thing since like 1.17 and it still isn't supported
cobalt marlin
there is no point in supporting it
public plugins are compiled to obf version
server is provided in obf version
it only helps other devs running stuff on their own
static zealot
When's the mob voting starting?
ocean quartz
Already started
worthy violet
They probably won't ever support it - it's been a thing since like 1.17 and it s...
Yeah then I'll just use vinilla packet listeners or fork protocolLib aand make it support the mojang mapped we'll see
cobalt marlin
why not just reobf it on production
half harness
thats a lot of work just for hotswapping πͺ¦
also afaik vanilla doesn't have packet listeners
you have to register some channel or smth on netty
cobalt marlin
reading is the main issue not listening honestly
pastel imp
yet another guy trying to pay me 20 cents per hour lmao
what has the Minecraft community become lol
wind patio
Inflation bro
cobalt marlin
yet another guy trying to pay me 20 cents per hour lmao
hey, you can buy like a gum in a day with that
pastel imp
hey, you can buy like a gum in a day with that
true
or wait no
not true
not where I live lol
I can buy a gum every 2 days
cobalt marlin
ey, just work 20 hours a day
EASY
but on a serious note, just dont work with kids and pay is usually good
obtuse gale
prisma wave
what
distant sun
he's right thought, we did not
prisma wave
true we dont
cobalt marlin
with?
tawdry heath
with?
what to do now that my big fat crush is going to the halloween dance with me as friends in his mind
prisma wave
no
tawdry heath
please can you just help me
obtuse gale
damn that's a tough one π₯²
tawdry heath
damn that's a tough one π₯²
well im sorry I didnβt sleep at all last noght
cinder flare
lmao in #dev-general of all places, everyone knows we get no bitches
obtuse gale
you should uh take that opportunity to speak things with him ig
idk I suck at dating advice
this is like the 4th time this channel serves for dating advice lmao
obtuse gale
nice
cinder flare
nice
obtuse gale
with whom?
cinder flare
definitely not ciara and her crush lmaooo
obtuse gale
skull emoji
tawdry heath
definitely not ciara and her crush lmaooo
????
obtuse gale
cinder flare
hey hey that's p good
gotta play the long con, one of my roommates freshman year hung out with this girl every single day for an entire semester, then finally winter break happened and they came back and were dating
so, definitely works
obtuse gale
awe
tawdry heath
hey hey that's p good
we've know each othe since grade 2
cinder flare
oh wow, now that's a real long con
cobalt marlin
they are now in grade 3
cinder flare
they grow up so fast
tawdry heath
they are now in grade 3
no im in grade 7
cobalt marlin
close enough
tawdry heath
you're like 14?
13
tawdry heath
can't believe discord allows literal children
im not a child
cinder flare
bro 13 lmaooo
tawdry heath
bro 13 lmaooo
are you serious
cinder flare
yeah you aren't even the minimum age for like, anything
tawdry heath
i think discord doesnt even allow 13
yeah they do its 13 and up
cinder flare
you are the minimum age
cobalt marlin
not if the country is like germany
tawdry heath
can you stop being so rude
cinder flare
that's rude?
just don't worry about it lmao
wait until you're at least in high school
tawdry heath
yeah you aren't even the minimum age for like, anything
Star β Today at 8:22 PMyeah you aren't even the minimum age for like, anything
tawdry heath
well it dose to me
prisma wave
have u heard of fer nan do po ov
cinder flare
YEAH
tawdry heath
have u heard of fer nan do po ov
no
cobalt marlin
prisma wave
no
alright
anyway
not to ruin the fun but this is a server about a minecraft plugin
cinder flare
just one?!
obtuse gale
DeluxeChat
cobalt marlin
chatchat when
obtuse gale
cinder flare
<:DADI:480668753500307456>
i made this
tawdry heath
well you guys havent help with anything
cinder flare
what are we supposed to do lmao
obtuse gale
hey I gave advice!
cinder flare
i did too
tawdry heath
yeah but your being rude
prisma wave
you're* π€
cinder flare
OHHHHH
tawdry heath
you're* π€
idc
obtuse gale
am I blocked or something π₯²
cinder flare
no emily
cinder flare
DAMN
cobalt marlin
just hit 13 i see
cinder flare
Haskell Enjoyer vs 7th Grade Hopeless Romantic
tawdry heath
Bye you just made my life worse
prisma wave
thats your own problem
who's being rude now?
prisma wave
Haskell Enjoyer vs 7th Grade Hopeless Romantic
battle for the ages
tawdry heath
who's being rude now?
well idc i will never be good ive trying for years I should die now and go to hell where I belong
prisma wave
what
cinder flare
wow that's pretty hardcore for being 13 years of age
cobalt marlin
and that escalated
prisma wave
yeah jesus
obtuse gale
yeah uhm
cinder flare
they should make a cold version of hell
i would totally chill in like the alaska equivalent of hell yk
tawdry heath
wow that's pretty hardcore for being 13 years of age
well its true im just a god damm b#tch
cinder flare
i mean that sounds unsubstantiated and also you are literally 13, you have the rest of your life in front of you to, i guess, not be?
tawdry heath
well nobody cares about me not even my parents they left me when i was born
tawdry heath
i mean that sounds unsubstantiated and also you are literally 13, you have the r...
so yeah
cobalt marlin
on the small off-chance this not being a troll, random minecraft discords arent exactly the best place to go for advice
prisma wave
not generally, no
tawdry heath
on the small off-chance this not being a troll, random minecraft discords arent ...
well in said advice when I joined
prisma wave
im not sure it did
last nacelle
You hate to see it
rotund egret
I can be your angle. or I can be your debil
static zealot
Others rip your kneecaps
I would if they'd let me
pastel imp
gotta play the long con, one of my roommates freshman year hung out with this gi...
How I got friendzoned π
pastel imp
well in said advice when I joined
Uhm, this is definitively not the best place to ask...
- This is a minecraft help discord.
- You are specifically in the dev channel which (let's be honest here) 98% are single for a reason lol (that includes me π₯)
- I would suggest a discord server called "Relationship Advices" they are specifically for that issue although I am unsure if they allow under age people. But you can always try.
halcyon leaf
<@767613538746236928>
U keep saying that as if someone helps
distant sun
This channel is for development discussions, not plugins support
halcyon leaf
This channel is for development discussions, not plugins support
Go there and help #general-plugins
pure arrow
@polar iris you can't bypass ometv login prompt
if the overlays are removed and you are not logged in, it won't connect you with anyone
polar iris
if the overlays are removed and you are not logged in, it won't connect you with...
Is every request sent with authentication credentials?
pure arrow
idk, probably not
but i told you want happens when you remove the login overlay
and their login prompt is to prevent bots pretty much
distant sun
Yeah, you cant just remove the login form and bypass the auth
raw sky
Is there a way to open a support ticket on here?
cobalt marlin
just ask your question
desert horizon
I would if they'd let me
wait... They really use the "Nooooo" Jens for errors?
distant sun
#1007620980627230730 is the closest to "tickets" @raw sky
raw sky
<#1007620980627230730> is the closest to "tickets" <@306114721436663809>
thank you
raw sky
just ask your question
Okay I'll post it here
I created my server on 1.15, the newest version of the time, not knowing that minigame servers are supposed to be on 1.8
and now I can't get the maps to backdate
I was told that FAWE could backdate maps with schematics (but turn modern blocks into air) but that turned out to be wrong
I even had to remove FAWE and use worldedit instead, since people in FAWE discord server don't give out downloads for older versions (and the schems dont work in older versions)
Is there any way to backdate the maps?
I really need help with this, I've asked everywhere and found no real answer
pastel imp
sooooo
here me out
I had my ptero dashboard opened in a tab
and directly besides it I had a CMS tab opened
and my brain just suddenly popped up the question
"what if we used CMS on a minecraft server?"
and now I am here.
rotund egret
What if we didnt
desert horizon
I created my server on 1.15, the newest version of the time, not knowing that mi...
Minigame servers aren't "supposed to be 1.8"
Whoever claims this doesn't know what they're talking about
pastel imp
What if we didnt
it's just a theory like I am legit curious
it's theoretically possible, but is it a good idea? practical? What are the cons, etc.
desert horizon
"what if we used CMS on a minecraft server?"
cms?
pastel imp
cms?
Content Management System
usually used for websites
Things like strapi, wordpress, etc are a CMS
pastel imp
eh yes ish
but it accesses the files, etc.
while in a CMS things are more user friendly, and easier to be changed
if you used strapi for example which is an headless CMS, you could just send a request to your api on server start and fetch all the updated data
and cache it
(by data I mainly mean configurations)
not saying I will do this, but it's quite an interesting concept.
half harness
I would do this if I knew web dev
rotund egret
There's already a module for that with WHCMS I'm pretty sure
obtuse gale
weeb dev
rotund egret
@obtuse gale ur a weeb dev
raw sky
Minigame servers aren't "supposed to be 1.8"
Thatβs not the point
Also the playerbase wanted 1.8 for pvpkits
And before you say there are plugins for that, they donβt fully replicate it, trust me
desert horizon
I personally don't consider PvP a minigame because.... it's PvP.
And the kits variant is just, well, kits added to it
But you do you. Destroy your server in the long run
pastel imp
like most people do
I am legit making MindMaps, FlowCharts and SiteMaps for my server rn
lol
sturdy zinc
can someone help me with GitBook?
agile galleon
Is there a list of every single public ip possible?
rotund egret
I mean, kind of
agile galleon
not ranges or stuff
rotund egret
I doubt there's an entire list of each unique ip
agile galleon
alr
lavish notch
Is there a list of every single public ip possible?
The ultimate "I have your IP" joke. 
rotund egret
I mean it probably wouldn't be difficult to generate that file with a small bit of code
agile galleon
but that file would be more likely to be 5gigs
brittle leaf
I created my server on 1.15, the newest version of the time, not knowing that mi...
you cannot downgrade map versions
i think the best way to downgrade a map would be to turn it into a schematic and still then im not sure
half harness
I created my server on 1.15, the newest version of the time, not knowing that mi...
Btw the download page has 1.8
pastel imp
i think the best way to downgrade a map would be to turn it into a schematic and...
You can always use world edit on the version of the build, and replace all blocks from that version that aren't available in 1.8 with 1.8 blocks
then save the schematic
and use it
brittle leaf
You can always use world edit on the version of the build, and replace all block...
thats what i was thinking when i said it
cobalt marlin
you could probably do it easily with a basic plugin that hooks to we
hook to paste, check material if it doesnt exist paste air
prisma wave
Is there a list of every single public ip possible?
1.1.1.1
1.1.1.2
1.1.1.3
1.1.1.4
etc
255.255.255.255
hope that helps
half harness
With coroutines, I have a CoroutineExceptionHandler which gets called but the scope (CoroutineScope(Dispatchers.Default)) just breaks - if you launch with it, the code doesn't run
ex (haven't ran this exact code, but it should work) kt val scope = CoroutineScope(Dispatchers.Default) scope.launch(CoroutineExceptionHandler { _, _ -> println("error!") }) { print("going to error!") throw RuntimeException() } scope.launch(CoroutineExceptionHandler { _, _ -> println("error!") }) { print("this doesn't print!") } should print outgoing to error! error!when I want it to print out ```
going to error!
error!
this doesn't print!
atm will probably just create a new scope, but wondering if there's any other, better workaround to this issue
rotund egret
The exception shouldn't be preventing the scope from launching a new job.
If you had any errors to work with it might be easier to find out what's going on, but that seems like it should work correctly.
Maybe not quite like you expected, but close
half harness
The exception shouldn't be preventing the scope from launching a new job.
If you...
The exception makes the coroutine go inactive - I "fixed" it by making a new scope whenever isActive returned false
cobalt marlin
The exception shouldn't be preventing the scope from launching a new job.
If you...
it kills the scope afaik
scopes arent made to be stored like a thread
rotund egret
I was reading over the docs, nothing mentioned it stopping the scope, just the job
cobalt marlin
I was reading over the docs, nothing mentioned it stopping the scope, just the j...
it kills the coroutine specifically, not the scope
cancel kills the child, exception kills all
rotund egret
pastel imp
is 1.19.2 stable enough to be used in a production env?
or should I play safe and go with 1.18?
(in both terms of bugs, performance, etc.)
brittle leaf
is 1.19.2 stable enough to be used in a production env?
1.19.2 is stabpe and has been for awhile
pastel imp
1.19.2 is stabpe and has been for awhile
Okay, thanks.
raw sky
i think the best way to downgrade a map would be to turn it into a schematic and...
Thats literally what I just said
I tried to make a schematic, then paste the schematic on 1.8
I was told that bringing a schematic from a newer version, then pasting in an old would work (but turn modern blocks that are not in 1.8 to air)
brittle leaf
after a quick google search, it might not be possible since 1.13 got rid of integer ids which means it might not beable to convert back
inner umbra
Would need to make your own plugin for that. (I assume you're using worldedit or forks of it)
wind patio
where can I found some docs about components?
prisma wave
wind patio
saw what π
obtuse gale
Omg yes I completed a $25 plugin request in 2 hours
I tried so hard to get at least minimum wage
brittle leaf
Gz
sturdy zinc
can I use minimessage on Java16?
half harness
can I use minimessage on Java16?
Uhhh did you have an error with it?
it works for me
sturdy zinc
yes, can't seem to figure out my error
half harness
yes, can't seem to figure out my error
what's the error?
sturdy zinc
half harness
https://paste.helpch.at/ikejedivew.css
you didn't shade it ig
sturdy zinc
?
half harness
but if it's paper only then don't use bukkit platform
sturdy zinc
bukkit and paper
half harness
then you need to shade & relocate adventure and the bukkit platform
and use 1.16.4 or below paper api or any version spigot api
half harness
and use 1.16.4 or below paper api or any version spigot api
actually if you're using 1.16.5+ paper api then don't shade anything
sturdy zinc
1.16.5?
sturdy zinc
spigot
half harness
then you need to shade & relocate adventure and the bukkit platform
do this
sturdy zinc
no paper in pom
half harness
maven?
sturdy zinc
yes
half harness
https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-shade-plugin/
look into the usage page and Relocating Classes
Also in the future I'd recommend asking in the Kyori discord for adventure issues
sturdy zinc
they have a discord?
half harness
they have a discord?
yes
https://docs.adventure.kyori.net/getting-started.html in the "Danger" box
sturdy zinc
thanks guess I missed that when I first read that
my maven shade was 3.2.4, I updated to 3.4.0 will see if that fixes it
sturdy zinc
all errors points to Relocating Classes in Maven, can someone help me understand Relocating Classes in Maven
half harness
all errors points to Relocating Classes in Maven, can someone help me understand...
https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-shade-plugin/examples/class-relocation.html
Just relocate net.kyori into your own package (ex I use me.dkim19375.coolplugin.libs)
sturdy zinc
I tried this but not luck <relocation> <pattern>net.kyori</pattern> <shadedPattern>net.shaded.kyori</shadedPattern> </relocation>
potent nest
why not just connect via ssh and use the commands directly?
wind patio
wym
im automating a process
but seems like the commands in ''s are interpreted as batch, not bash
or smt
potent nest
put an sh file onto the server and run it instead of sending single commands to the server
wind patio
well, I figured it out, turns out it intellij was using powershell to execute commands, not commandline
forest pecan
im trying to know how to get the better, nametag is it a texture pack ?
like a red balk with admin for example
brittle leaf
example?
static zealot
im trying to know how to get the better, nametag is it a texture pack ?
yes it is a texture pack. More specifically it is a custom character in a custom font added with a texture pack.
Since like 1.17 or something like that you can add custom fonts and those fonts can have images instead of characters
obtuse gale
yall know how to stop start up things because i made ubisoft a start up thing and its so anyyoing
forest pecan
yes it is a texture pack. More specifically it is a custom character in a custom...
is there a good tut somewhere i can learn how to make custom texture pack?
to add those futures to my server
static zealot
I know there are some but I have no link or anything unfortunately
cobalt marlin
someone here had a nice one
static zealot
yeah. I remember that as well. just don't remember who
forest pecan
if that person or anyone has a nice one can u dm me ππΌ
sweet kestrel
prisma wave
obtuse gale
yeah. I remember that as well. just don't remember who
Was it Raindropz?
prisma wave
https://wiki.bristermitten.me/girls
i got simon lol
cobalt marlin
Was it Raindropz?
yes!
static zealot
Was it Raindropz?
yeah. you're right
and it seems like Aki found the link as well
@steel stump
distant sun
Two new languages at the same time, double win
static zealot
Two new languages at the same time, double win
seems like a fair trade to me
distant sun
Exactly
inner umbra
Two new languages at the same time, double win
Saw something along the lines of
Calls customer support...
"Press 1 for english" -> Presses 1
"Dank you for cooling AD&D Deck Supor"
sly sonnet
Two new languages at the same time, double win
Why black?
static zealot
what?
distant sun
is not made by me lol
steel stump
this is the best around <:PES_Happy:493353112493621258> <@186348987501117440>
Tenor no work
distant sun
it does, but you dont have access to embeds yet
steel stump
and thank you though π€ more guides dropping very soon π
steel stump
it does, but you dont have access to embeds yet
One day.. one day...
cold prawn
Is there a way to persistent data ingame maybe with essentials or worldedit?
half harness
Is there a way to persistent data ingame maybe with essentials or worldedit?
what kind of data? There's PDC for entities and tilestate blocks
cold prawn
blocks
half harness
blocks
then no, essentials and worldedit do not have an API, neither does spigot
You'll have to save it manually on a file/database and then either listen to like 15 block events or check every/almost every tick (depends on your use case) if the block is still there and remove the data from your file/database if not
cold prawn
Ah i was just looking for a way to actually view the data in the block to make sure its set correctly
cobalt marlin
then no, essentials and worldedit do not have an API, neither does spigot
You'll...
or just use paper
and listen to BlockDestroy
half harness
and listen to BlockDestroy
there's also pistons, etc
cobalt marlin
gets called by all i think
cobalt marlin
it gets called everytime it get set to null
half harness
d;paper BlockDestroyEvent
ruby craterBOT
half harness
pistons retracting (where the block is moving)
not sure what this means since in the beginning of the docs it says "such as physics updates, pistons"
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
have you tested it? docs are a little unclear
cold prawn
Dont think u guys understood what my goal really was but its fine :)
half harness
yeah I'd try that since it seems better than checking every tick (although as long as you don't have like 1000 blocks it shouldn't lag anyways)
Sure
it depends on your use case
cobalt marlin
if all you need is to put some data
at a certain coord
^ hella basic
it gets a bit more confusing if you need to have the data actually associated with a block
half harness
I'm assuming he doesn't need it associated with the block though
since he didn't need the info
cold prawn
/data get block did the trick
I think u guys just went a bit wild
Not sure what problem u were thinking of
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
half harness
@cold prawn btw this isn't plugin/mc support - that's probably why we "went wild" π₯²
or ig #minecraft works too but it's not officially a support channel but ppl still ask questions there
cold prawn
Oopsie poopsie :)
obtuse gale
hey can some one help me understand why i got 50k views but not even 400 subs i mean im 10 away fro 400 but how
@anyoneever please answer
@ me if you know
prisma wave
idk
queen saffron
@obtuse gale
Please don't attempt to ping @/everyone (I know not what u tried but I'm not 100% sure so just gonna leave it here)
You got 50K on one video, a month ago. All your recent content has 20~views per video. It seems that around a month ago, the algorithm favored you for a bit, and now, isn't giving you any new viewers.
That's why.
50K views doesn't mean 50K subs-
pastel imp
(Or he just bought a botted account which in that case this happens quite often)
queen saffron
Or that
brittle leaf
Ah i was just looking for a way to actually view the data in the block to make s...
Playerinteractevent i think
distant sun
@ocean quartz me in 2019
distant sun
I need a bit of help. So, I want to make a price tracker for local online shops, and I want to link together all offers for a product.
E.g. laptop x is available on site y and z, when the program will check these two sites for new products or prices, it will find the product and it should store it in a db and somehow make a connection between the offer from site y and size z.
What would be a good way to do this? π
Example: https://www.istoric-preturi.info/pd/5437262/GX501GI-EI006T/laptop-gaming-asus-rog-new-zephyrus-gx501gi-ei006t-cu-procesor-intel-reg-core-trade-i7-8750h-pana-la-4-10-ghz-coffee-lake-15-6-quot-full-hd-144hz-3ms-g-sync-24gb-512gb-ssd-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-8gb-max-q-microsoft-windows-10-black
quiet sierra
funny thing
there's a site for that here
where it just compares the same reference across multiple sites
It's probably best to fetch the price of the current day and cache it
@eager fern Got a weird situation, mind if I DM you?
eager fern
@quiet sierra why cant you ask me here?
quiet sierra
uh sure I guess the dude doesn't check this channel
You see that poooov guy providing insane budgets for projects?
Yeah basically the dude asks you to do work and ends up never satisfied, without ever paying any upfront as he pretends he's cautious
Basically a scam
I can't really report as there's no concrete discriminator between it being done and not done
rotund egret
Perhaps worth noting that they've posted multiple times for this job this month
gusty glen
I'm having issues trying to install GraalVM 17 on my Ubuntu machine. I have already downloaded the .tar.gz file (from their own website) and extracted its content to /usr/lib/jvm/graalvm-ee-17. Unfortunately though, seems like they did not include a .jinfo file and I have no idea how to get one for GraalVM, I need this .jinfo file to be able to properly use update-java-alternatives, is there a way to generate this file, or download it from somewhere else?
Their install page do mention nothing about this: https://docs.oracle.com/en/graalvm/enterprise/22/docs/getting-started/installation-linux/
pastel imp
I can't really report as there's no concrete discriminator between it being done...
In a convo I had, he specifically said he would only pay afterwards, I rejected it 10s later lol
cobalt marlin
the usual send files then I pay
distant sun
It's probably best to fetch the price of the current day and cache it
Yeah I know, but I need to do a correlation between listings of the same product from multiple sites, so when you search for product x you will open a page where is a chart with the prices from all sites where the product is available.
keen timber
In a convo I had, he specifically said he would only pay afterwards, I rejected...
@eager fern , might want to look at this
seems like i'm not the only one π
this guy is a blatant scammer
sorry for mention
eager fern
ill mention this again we require the user to scam to approach any actions.
keen timber
Alright, let the guy do his thing then
quiet sierra
What's the line between it being a scam and not being a scam?
keen timber
anyone that's smart enough will not get in the guy scheme ig
quiet sierra
Because I did put in multiple hours of work
eager fern
Paying for the service vise versa
eager fern
Because I did put in multiple hours of work
Open a ticket
If you put hours and they didnt pay please do open a scam report and ill handle it right now.