dev-general

[sly sonnet]

i did a simple google search and found this https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/how-to-make-blocks-glow-no-enchantment.336667/

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/how-to-make-blocks-glow-no-enchantment.336667/page-2#post-3140289

[mighty finch]

Neither of these seem like very optimized ways to do it, and all involve entities of some kind which is what I'm trying to avoid.

[fallow thorn]

did u benchmark it

?

[obtuse gale]

I need a plugin made for $$. Dm me if u can help out

[ocean quartz]

#1004004211945652364

[obtuse gale]

just saw it

[last nacelle]

Hey where do I ask a development question

[last nacelle]

You can ask one in #dev-general

[last nacelle]

Oh ok, thanks

[half harness]

[prisma wave]

⚙️ Development General - Not configuration help - More relaxed area to discuss development topics

[static zealot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/695431668944732270/841680498916196402/1616507924294_5.mp4

[inner osprey]

Anyone know? [23:26:20 INFO]: WizWazWizard lost connection: Internal Exception: java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 'java.util.UUID net.minecraft.server.level.EntityPlayer.cp()'

Nothing online about it, been trying for hours

[static zealot]

version from console please

[inner osprey]

Version?

It's latest paper 1.19.2

[static zealot]

yes. for server version

image please

[inner osprey]

Image?

Sorry bit confused

[static zealot]

image of the output of version

run that in console, you'll get like 3 lines of output

make a screenshot

and send it here

[sly sonnet]

?paste

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

Paste Services
When asking for help with a config/menu/code issue please use our paste bin:
(we prefer it over pastebin.com)
• HelpChat Paste - How To Use

Requested by: wxip • paste

[inner osprey]

Ah will do

I'll @ you in a few minutes, just doing something irl rn

[misty bane]

im looking for someone who can review my plugin's code

[static zealot]

you can ask for the developer role in #role-request

only downside is that it might take more than 1 year to get a response

:)))

[misty bane]

oh

do i really need developer role?

[surreal quarry]

you can ask in #dev-general as well

[misty bane]

ok

[surreal quarry]

but yes you need the developer role for the exclusive developer chat

[misty bane]

ok

[surreal quarry]

just post ur github repo or smth

someone might take a look

if i had my laptop rn i would

[misty bane]

ok then

the problem with my plugin is that it have kinda big amount of code and its hard to do something more in here

i just want to cleanup or something

and increase the quality of this code

i have 28 commands there, i get rid of essentials in that way

its just plugin for my server

[surreal quarry]

If you want code review, you can send a link to the github repo and I will try and take a look for you

[misty bane]

ok thx

[ocean quartz]

"request code review" another sentence for voluntary bullying

[surreal quarry]

Exactly

I'll "take a look"

[misty bane]

can i add u to this repo and then u can take a look? i dont want it to leak or something

[pastel imp]

anyone knows a JS Number formatter that formats numbers to like 1.2k, 4B, etc?

too lazy to code one myself lol

[cinder flare]

depends, how open to supply chain attacks are you

i got one with 800 weekly downloads and one with 180 weekly downloads lmao

[pastel imp]

wdym?

what's a supply chain attack?

[cinder flare]

oh it's when you have a bad package many many layers down

it was a joke about the npm ecosystem being awful lol

[pastel imp]

oh lmao

either way think I found one

https://www.codegrepper.com/code-examples/javascript/num+to+1k+js

[cinder flare]

oh hey there you go

that's not even another dependency!

[pastel imp]

ye, it's poggers

a lot better

[cinder flare]

more Svelte >:)

[static zealot]

imagine doing something productive 😦

[pastel imp]

xD ngl first time I am being productive

[pastel imp]

ye, svelte is poggers, messing with endpoits is quite funny

legit have a index.svelte and index.ts, in the ts file I can just create a get endpoint, fetch data from an external api, and return it. And then in the svelte file I can just export it and voila

can use it.

This is like the simplest use of it

[cinder flare]

have you seen the upcoming huge update to sveltekit

[pastel imp]

I have not

[cinder flare]

they're redoing like all of the filesystem routing lol

[pastel imp]

gib link

bruh

that's fked up

[cinder flare]

nah it's pretty good

it's going to make a lot of things a lot better

[pastel imp]

yes sure

[cinder flare]

and it's like, a huge step towards 1.0

[pastel imp]

but me gonna have to redo stuff lol

[cinder flare]

https://github.com/sveltejs/kit/discussions/5748

[pastel imp]

unless they add an ez way to migrate

then poggers

[cinder flare]

they do

[pastel imp]

https://svelte.dev/blog/whats-new-in-svelte-august-2022

[sly sonnet]

http://numeraljs.com/

[pastel imp]

u a bit late xD

[sly sonnet]

awww mann

var string = numeral(1000).format('0.0a');

[pastel imp]

that is indeed simpler xD

[cinder flare]

it's not the JS way!

we need more packages!

[pastel imp]

haha

nha I will stick to vanilla js

I mean, I take that back

I am using TS lol

Also, read the new routing system and yeeee it does seem better than the current

will have to get used to it, but def. better.

[cinder flare]

yeah I'm planning to just only use folder + index.svelte combos for my project im working on rn

then easy migration with just a file rename

[pastel imp]

ye I am not doing that rn xD

should probably change rn

[cinder flare]

would be for the best!

[pastel imp]

wait a minute, index.svelte stays the same right?

aka outside the routes folder?

[cinder flare]

outside the routes folder? 🤨

what would it be doing there

if it cannot be routed to

[pastel imp]

ye exactly, my brain just had high ping ya know

internet sucks up here

[cinder flare]

ah jeez lol

[pastel imp]

those god damn png files lol

gotta convert them to whatever file format is better

[cinder flare]

webp moment

[pastel imp]

yup

well no

[cinder flare]

hmm?

[pastel imp]

gonna use avif

[cinder flare]

oh yeah but that's a lot less widely supported

[pastel imp]

oh rlly?

[cinder flare]

oh yeah iirc

webp is on everything but IE11

[pastel imp]

oof gonna change to webp then

[cinder flare]

https://caniuse.com/avif

edge and safari are the biggest concerns

and firefox doesn't support the gif version either

[half harness]

what do the numbers mean?

[cinder flare]

versions of the browsers

[half harness]

oh

[cinder flare]

https://caniuse.com/webp

in comparison, look at that green line for webp

everything's all good

[pastel imp]

only 3 missing

I AM going to get to 100

idc

[cinder flare]

did webp only give you 1 point lmao

[pastel imp]

oh wait I am stupid

that's mobile lol

ez

desktop

[cinder flare]

there it is

a true web developer

[pastel imp]

😎

my website looks so funny in mobile

ye... didn't add mobile support yet

but somehow it got a 97 score lmao

[cinder flare]

yeah not in a good way lol

collapse that menu for god's sake

[pastel imp]

unsure how I will do it atm

I was planning on redoing the nav for mobile

like make the "Main navigator" (The 4 big buttons) at the bottom

and then put the collapsed menu also in that menu

I hate reactivity tbh

such a pain to work with

[cinder flare]

what lol

that's like the whole point of using a js framework

[pastel imp]

uh okay I will rephrase that

not reactivity

uhm, I meant, like "cross-platform support"

this is the idea for mobile

but idk

I will probably just make a "error screen" for mobile for now.

I will probably release it into beta once I have the key features done, mobile isn't a focus rn

wtf isn't webp supported on ipad?

currently checking how it looks on my ipad and the image isn't showing 💀

big wtf

[inner osprey]

@static zealot Fixed. It Denizen that was causing the issues

[mighty finch]

Does anyone know if it's possible to apply a glow to a placed block based on where the player's cursor is looking? Without the need of having to use some kind of entity.

[cinder flare]

responsiveness? lol

[pastel imp]

YES that!

[pastel imp]

pretty sure you need an entity like a shulker or so

[cinder flare]

oh lol yeah, it's a bit weird, but also like quite satisfying to get it right

[pastel imp]

wanna get it right for me? 🙂

[cinder flare]

especially going up too, i now have all 1440p displays, so making that look good is very important, and trying to make 4k look p good is also a challenge

[mighty finch]

"Without the need of having to use some kind of entity." So it's not possible to do it without an entity?

[cinder flare]

generally it comes down to like media queries and some nice conditional flexbox size rules

[pastel imp]

oh tbh fk 4k users

[pastel imp]

that answers as a no lol

[cinder flare]

hey I mean, everything is trending towards higher resolution, and 4k is like a lot easier to scale cause you generally just like make things like 5 per row instead of 3 or wahtever

and especially stuff like lots of laptops (specifically macbooks) are higher than 1080p so they scale a bit weirdly

and that's a big market!

[pastel imp]

pain

but me not like responsiveness lmao

and I can't even test it cause me not have 4k

oh wait I can

looks fine to me

[cinder flare]

yeah you can emulate with media queries

[pastel imp]

they will manage it

[cinder flare]

it's fucking tiny lmao

are you using responsive units

[remote goblet]

bro zoom and enhance that shit what

[pastel imp]

yesno star

[cinder flare]

there's really no reason that layout could not easily be made infinitely scalable with like flexboxes

[pastel imp]

like, I am using rems

xd

which doesn't rlly help with responsiveness in resolutions

only fonts

[cinder flare]

don't tell me those boxes have a fixed size in rem

[pastel imp]

no

it's a grid

[cinder flare]

then why is it so small

[pastel imp]

but I am limiting it

[cinder flare]

does that grid have a max width and height

[pastel imp]

confused rn

xd

[cinder flare]

do a little inspect elementing

you can see all the properties applied to whatever isn't the full width

[pastel imp]

now this is sus

fk yes

I am stupid

I am limiting it

[cinder flare]

that's how they getcha

[pastel imp]

not much better

k fk this

I will focus on making it work for me

then add support for the rest xD

seems like a good way of doing

but I can already imagine the amounts of suffering I will have to make it responsive

I will cry

[cinder flare]

i mean that's kinda the thing

you're not supposed to make something "and then make it responsive"

you just design from the ground up using all relative things and checking often how things look on all the sizes

like, there's no reason the height should be capped like that

if anything that box should have like, a few rem of margin, but that's it

[pastel imp]

I mean you have a point

but like

I have just accomplished this nice looking website, and adding that responsiveness is basically telling me "You see this, delete and redo, thanks."

I have no idea why, but my brain just can't handle responsiveness somehow...

Like I literally don't understand it even if I want to lol

[cinder flare]

well the way I think of it is like carving things out

so instead of taking a box and saying "i want to make this bigger", you think "how do I make the space it has smaller proportionally"

so you put it in a container or two, or use a flexbox and space it a certain way

so then when you scale up, those proportional cutouts stay the same size, and your content grows

[pastel imp]

so you create a "global" flex and put the contents in it

[cinder flare]

i dunno, I am far from a good web designer lol, but that's helped me in how I try to design stuff

[pastel imp]

and then just use % etc in it?

[cinder flare]

well no not just one

[pastel imp]

web designer != web dev

[cinder flare]

you create lots and lots of containers

portioning the space up yk

[pastel imp]

I am a better web designer than dev

(as you can see)

[cinder flare]

haha

but yeah, it's moreso like partitioning things with more and more layers of containers

like, go look at any responsive website, they will have a ton of layers of divs holding things together proportionally

[pastel imp]

so a box inside a box inside a box inside another which contains 3 boxes, each one containing 1 box with 3 boxes and then another box in the side with 2 boxes and then inside those, you put 2 separated boxes which then make another box

^^ This is basically how my smart head imagined it

[cinder flare]

yeah pretty much lol

it makes a lot more sense when you think about it

like here

https://i.imgur.com/QyH4LXE.png

so that's one div right

[pastel imp]

hmhm

[cinder flare]

https://i.imgur.com/33xXif9.png

then that's a div inside

[pastel imp]

which probably has a grid

or flexbox

with 2 boxes

one for the nav

another for the ranks

[cinder flare]

https://i.imgur.com/DdfavKP.png

[pastel imp]

ye exactly

[cinder flare]

https://i.imgur.com/jAqA504.png

yeaha pretty much

[pastel imp]

oh its a grid

[cinder flare]

flexbox lol

[pastel imp]

I mean, mine isn't that much different

here

1s

I mean, let me just send the test link, you see it yourself directly, it's easier than me sending the screenshots here

[cinder flare]

lol

[pastel imp]

am I wrong? lol

[cinder flare]

nah it would definitely be easier

[pastel imp]

https://test.tcn.pages.dev/

I wonder how this will look in your screen xD

[cinder flare]

oh man the classes are pretty bizarre lol

sveltekit scoped styles presumably

[pastel imp]

wdym? lol

send screenshot

[cinder flare]

classes like w-[95%]

[pastel imp]

oh no

[cinder flare]

max-w-[66.5rem]

[pastel imp]

that's tailwind

xd

not an issue

[cinder flare]

oh wow really lol

man i gotta use tailwind

[pastel imp]

that's custom tailwind

you can use the default ones they have

[cinder flare]

but yeah like in your case, you should have columns to limit the width

not max width attributes on all the elemenst

[pastel imp]

but if you want custom you just put the values inside []

[cinder flare]

ah

but yeah, I would use columns to limit the edges

[pastel imp]

so one big grid

with 3 cols

the one in the middle being auto

[cinder flare]

you ever used like Bootstrap? or any of the classic css frameworks

[pastel imp]

not rlly

[cinder flare]

they all have big column layouts, that's their big draw

[pastel imp]

started with css, then scss and then tailwind so ye no

[cinder flare]

oh wow lol

you are pretty metal, i am still far from using tailwind raw

[pastel imp]

never liked the limitations of bootstrap

[cinder flare]

ah see I don't want to have to really think about much UI elements lol

and especially on a big team like at my job, it is very nice to have some visual consistency because everyone is using the same tools roughly

[pastel imp]

oh I do, I am really perfectionist, so I like having control over stuff xd

[cinder flare]

ah lol

but yeah, responsive columns are your best bet here

[pastel imp]

ye that's another case I suppose

[cinder flare]

because then everything can just scale up as it goes

[pastel imp]

already work a lot with cols in this part

to make that layout

[cinder flare]

it definitely doesn't look bad on 1440p, but there's a lot of dead space around the edge that makes it feel hollow and not very cozy yk

[pastel imp]

ye

[cinder flare]

and as cool as the whole grid thing is, i'm not sure how well it'll scale to mobile lol

generally you just want to stack things on top of each other in mobile, and you have a lot of different sized elements in that bad boy

i mean im sure you know this lol, just my feedback from looking at it

[pastel imp]

ye ik, although I think there are some work arounds I can do with tailwind itself when it comes to responsiveness

my main focus rn is upwards

I feel like, whenever upwards compatibility is good, downwards will be fine to do

[cinder flare]

well, they do tend to go hand in hand lol

honestly mobile is generally a lot easier because you can have a way simpler navbar or even hide it with a hamburger menu, and then just stack everything

[pastel imp]

ok fair, I will focus on mobile rn

time to check how to add custom media queries lol

[cinder flare]

haha

okay so it looks like your grid is the limiting factor in mobile

because it's scrunching everything into the small left column

https://i.imgur.com/dCf8oWW.png

ngl I have very little experience with grid, but presumably there might be a way to media query have it only have one column if it's small enough?

[pastel imp]

tailwind is just nice

[pastel imp]

yes there is

what I am gonna do rn xD

[cinder flare]

okay I have learned about CSS Grid

you can have it automatically add/remove columns

though that's not really great in our case, it is very cool!

https://i.imgur.com/G9Odwnr.png

but I have no idea how to auto stack and full width the things in the lower grid tbh

[pastel imp]

I will get there

gib me a sec

god this is a pain

[cinder flare]

yeah I really don't know enough about CSS Grid to find an easy answer for this one

but i feel like there must be some way to just stack all the things vertically yk

[pastel imp]

okay now I fked up everything haha

[cinder flare]

yeah I really don't know enough about CSS Grid to find an easy answer for this one

[pastel imp]

there is an easy answer

and that answer is: there is no easy answer

[cinder flare]

but i feel like there must be some way to just stack all the things vertically yk

[pastel imp]

there is

[cinder flare]

oh!

well then, do it!

[pastel imp]

I just gotta find it out troll

[cinder flare]

ah lol

[pastel imp]

okay I am pissed

this sh@ doesn't wanna fill the rest of the screen lmao

[cinder flare]

css grid moment

[pastel imp]

ya know

now that I think about

I should've probably done a backup 😂

@cinder flare somehow I managed to make it look good, now I just gotta fix the above issue 😭

[cinder flare]

hey hey!

oh, one idea I had earlier

you could put the yellow crown icon centered and then put the hamburger menu opener on the top left

that way the style is still there, and you can actually access the navbar lol

[pastel imp]

might do, unsure

like the idea

but idk if it's best for user experience

This is the issue with stuff in the top

(this is the areas the user touches, so natural is basically, easy, and hard is you have to do a decent movement to click it)

[cinder flare]

i mean yeah but what can you do

there's no other place to put the navbar button lol

[pastel imp]

there is...

at the bottom

[cinder flare]

hmmm

that's actually too close lol

especially on a newer phone with less bezels, it's really hard to press that close to your thumb

[pastel imp]

oh welp, will worry about that after I have the rest fixed lol

god I kinda fixed it

had to set the height to like 115% lmao

[cinder flare]

🤨

your root element should just be like width: 100%; height: 100%;

[pastel imp]

ye it should.....

either way, it's working for now!

that's what matters for me xd

[tame bane]

How do I remove the SEND RESULTS

From the bungee cord /send

[quiet depot]

i’m not sure how I feel about this https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/wmnqa0/css_is_not_a_programming_language

[last nacelle]

I feel anger.

Fear even

[sly sonnet]

Is Gson good for POJO <-> Json?

[cinder flare]

it's aight

jackson is probably better, but gson is already shaded in spigot so

[sly sonnet]

How exactly would Jackson be better?

[cinder flare]

just a better library

not really too big of a deal though

gson is plenty

[sly sonnet]

Ah, okay

Thanks!

[inner osprey]

Yo

How to build a plugin from github?

easiest way

[static zealot]

ugh. that depends? for example, does it use a build tool like maven, or gradle, if not does it have all the dependencies on github, if not you need to get those dependencies, and use something like intellij's build tool.

[inner osprey]

Depends on something called "SimpleReflection"

They Said Maven I think, but I have 0 idea to if thats the easiest way

or how hard it is

I have the source code from github

@static zealot

[cobalt marlin]

you clone it to your local repo

then build using their maven - gradle etc if available

if not its a bit more tricky

[inner osprey]

how to do it with Maven?

Never used it

[half harness]

mvn package -> jar in target

[inner osprey]

Is it easy?

?

[cobalt marlin]

import the project in your ide

then build using their pom

[half harness]

chances are you already have maven installed

although with gradle you never have to worry about that 😌

[half harness]

is the project maven

if so, open command prompt and go to the project folder

and run mvn clean package

[half harness]

I'm guessing that means that you don't have maven installed

[cobalt marlin]

for new people command prompt is not going to be easy

[half harness]

True

[cobalt marlin]

just download all files on github

import them with an ide

[inner osprey]

ide?

[cobalt marlin]

intellij for example

then top right corner has a button for maven

use that to compile

[half harness]

What's the github repo

[cobalt marlin]

(only works if they have pushed all project files)

[inner osprey]

@half harness @cobalt marlin So i;ve installed a dependacy

how do I now use it build the plugin?

[half harness]

SimpleReflection-1.0.0

that should be the build

[cobalt marlin]

nah its a dependency

[inner osprey]

yes thats the dependency

so do I add that to the other file?

[cobalt marlin]

can you just send the repo

so i can build it fast

[half harness]

oh are you building two projects?
idk I'm confused now 🥲

[cobalt marlin]

its gonna be faster than explaining

[inner osprey]

nu I need to learn ;-;

[cobalt marlin]

then, you need to download the whole project

thats step 1

then import the project using an ide

intellij works fine

[inner osprey]

heh? how come

[cobalt marlin]

the whole file

[inner osprey]

But I have maven

[cobalt marlin]

maven will handle dependencies

[obtuse gale]

And one would think build tools and dependency management are precisely to take care of all this dance

[cobalt marlin]

exactly

whole point of maven is that it handles dependencies etc

[inner osprey]

So I cant use maven to build the project?

[cobalt marlin]

you can

but its easier if you are new

to just use an ide

[inner osprey]

so how do I add that depency to the other project

[cobalt marlin]

you edit pom file

[inner osprey]

just drop the jar in the folder?

oh?

[cobalt marlin]

you dont do

any manual file moving

downloading etc

thats the whole point of maven

[half harness]

is AdvancedReplacer closed source?

[inner osprey]

yes

personal plugin that I commissioned and have worked close with

[half harness]

does it have like a libs folder or something that you could put the SimpleReflection jar in?

[cobalt marlin]

okay perfect

[half harness]

maybe you just put it in the root directory

[cobalt marlin]

please just import that as a project

on intellij

[inner osprey]

so more software downloading ;-;

[half harness]

dont install intellij just for this

[cobalt marlin]

if they wanna do this in the future

[half harness]

it would help if you had it but it's not worth it imo if you dont have it

[cobalt marlin]

its easier

[half harness]

since all it does is replace commands with buttons (unless editing the files which the developer should already have done for you)

[cobalt marlin]

yeah, but they are talking about changing dependencies

[inner osprey]

yeah but they're on holiday so they left me with the source code and some instructions

[half harness]

But didn't the developer already do it?

[inner osprey]

they have in the past

[half harness]

can you send pom.xml

to verify

[inner osprey]

verify what?

[half harness]

where to put the file

[cobalt marlin]

they dont have access to your code in pom

its just build instructions for maven

[half harness]

yea

[half harness]

huh

so he doesn't have anything related to SimpleReflection in that pom

interesting

[inner osprey]

well it doesn't let me build it

[half harness]

alr ill try fixing that issue first

[half harness]

going by maven errors

[cobalt marlin]

maybe they meant simplepackets?

[half harness]

possibly but the pom looks like its getting from the maven repo

unless they want him to install to maven local

[cobalt marlin]

who even types all that

instead of just compiling and sending the jar

[half harness]

🥲

or configuring the project to already have the jar

[cobalt marlin]

legit more work to send instructions

[half harness]

My guess is that he wants it in maven local

[cobalt marlin]

to just compile

[inner osprey]

I just want the jar ;-;

[half harness]

yep

they want maven local

with simplepackets

90% sure

[cobalt marlin]

yep

why is it called simple packets

and simple reflection

on the other

why is this so scuffed

[half harness]

paper dev 😌

[cobalt marlin]

protocol lib

fuck wrapper

[inner osprey]

so what do I do>?

[cobalt marlin]

i think, no need to bother with maven local

just add it as jar dependency

[half harness]

packetwrapper is useful but I don't shade it (i just copy it)
I meant to say packetevents tho

hm

[inner osprey]

where

[cobalt marlin]

we can edit the pom

and they can just put the file

probably faster honestly

[half harness]

true

[inner osprey]

where do I put it?

[half harness]

well first of all

go to simplepackets

and do the same mvn clean package you did with simplereflection

[inner osprey]

in cmd?

mvn clean package

[half harness]

yep

and then in target you should see the build

[half harness]

cd into the project folder (ex cd C:\Some\Cool\Folder)

or you can type cd and drag the folder into command prompt

[inner osprey]

cd downloads/AdvancedReplacer-tvhee mvn clean package ?

[half harness]

yes

[half harness]

well

2 separate commands

should work

[inner osprey]

I tried also:

cd downloads/AdvancedReplacer-tvhee/AdvancedReplacer-tvhee mvn clean package

[cobalt marlin]

instead why not just do this

[half harness]

cd Downloads/AdvancedReplacer-tvhee/AdvancedReplacer-tvhee

[cobalt marlin]

replace your pom with this

and put the jar in there

next to the pom file

[half harness]

try changing maven shade plugin to 3.3.0

[cobalt marlin]

then just compile

[inner osprey]

but if I need to do this in the future, he will have a dif pom

[half harness]

since it had an error with that earlier

[cobalt marlin]

ask him to compile next time

[half harness]

Probably will be the same, and if not you can ask him about it

oh yea

[cobalt marlin]

this is kinda ridiculous

[half harness]

ask him to compile

🥲

[cobalt marlin]

shade is already 3.3.0

you mean remove snapshot?

[half harness]

yea

[half harness]

here

ig maven removed its snapshot or smth??? idk

[cobalt marlin]

here

use this then

damn i didnt miss maven

[half harness]

same

[cobalt marlin]

its been a while since i switched to gradle exclusively

[half harness]

helpchat converted me to gradle 😌

[inner osprey]

did a bunch of stuff, but now this

[half harness]

oh cmon

is he using nms

[cobalt marlin]

yikes

[half harness]

should we just try api first

since buildtools takes quite a bit of time to install

[cobalt marlin]

nah

why not just shove a spigot jar in there too

[obtuse gale]

lol

[cobalt marlin]

physically

lmao

its legit faster probably

[half harness]

🤨

do you have spigot 1.19 jar

SilentTail

[inner osprey]

eh

[cobalt marlin]

im guessing they have a spigot jar already

[inner osprey]

idk

[half harness]

like in your server

[inner osprey]

I use Paper

1.19.2

[half harness]

That should work

[cobalt marlin]

doesnt matter

[half harness]

right?

[cobalt marlin]

ye

[half harness]

well its not going to be paper.jar

used to be cache folder but i forget what it is now

1 sec ill check

[inner osprey]

could we not try your method of mvn clean package?

@half harness

[cobalt marlin]

here just put your paper jar in there

it needs to be named paper.jar

[inner osprey]

my server one??

[cobalt marlin]

ye

just copy and paste the jar

into the project file

then rename it to paper.jar

[inner osprey]

do I keep the dpenedecny

[cobalt marlin]

yes

keep both

[cobalt marlin]

yep

works

[half harness]

thats the paperclip

it installs paper jar

actually tbh idk if its called paperclip

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cobalt marlin]

aah

[half harness]

but its not the main jar

[cobalt marlin]

okay im dumb

[half harness]

or else paper would be in some trouble

🥲

its in versions

[inner osprey]

so what now?

[half harness]

versions/1.19/paper-1.19.jar

use that jar

and rename it to paper.jar (once copied to your maven folder)

[cobalt marlin]

ye

[inner osprey]

where do I find 1.19?

[half harness]

Oh I assumed you had 1.19 already

🥲

[inner osprey]

I have an old paper-1.19-40

if that works

[half harness]

that should still work

as long as its 1.19

[cobalt marlin]

watch the dev use nms without reflection

[half harness]

Oh wait

smh SimpleReflection

[inner osprey]

something wrong with pom?

[half harness]

Aki ^

¯_(ツ)_/¯

or we can just try spigot-api

since theres SimpleReflection

[cobalt marlin]

i copy pasted so lemme check one sec

[half harness]

unless thats for smth else

okay

[cobalt marlin]

dud im using notepad to edit the pom its scuffed as hell atm

[half harness]

lol

sublime text ftw

[cobalt marlin]

im on my side laptop its not great

my bad

forgot to include the scope

[inner osprey]

Did a bunch of stuff

[half harness]

so now we need simplepackets?

⁉️

[cobalt marlin]

lmao

[half harness]

okay so silenttail

also this guy really making his own tinyprotocol

[cobalt marlin]

does the simplepacket repo exist?

[half harness]

yes

[cobalt marlin]

oh lemme add it then one sec

[half harness]

ig you can use jitpack actually

[inner osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/im-losing-my-fucking-mind-im-losing-my-mind-pikachu-crazy-pikachu-funny-im-losing-it-gif-24545580

[half harness]

lol

next theres gonna be like SimpleMinecraft

:))

[half harness]

Aki lets just use this

didn't know why we didn't think of it earlier

[inner osprey]

I give in. @half harness Could you compile it for me.

Im gonna cry-

[half harness]

Nooo just wait a little moment and aki will configure the pom

hopefully with jitpack

[inner osprey]

ok ok

[half harness]

or else you're going to have to do the mvn clean package again 🥲

but just wait 1 minute

:)

[inner osprey]

ok ;-;

[half harness]

oh Aki is typing

look at that

🪄

[cobalt marlin]

wait

[half harness]

oh nevermind

[cobalt marlin]

jitpack then?

[inner osprey]

gonna make a sandwitch, brb

[half harness]

lol

alr

[half harness]

nvm

requires shade plugin 3.3.0

so jitpack failed

😖

[cobalt marlin]

ffs

[half harness]

@inner osprey pinging since you're afk

but uhh
you're going to have to clone SimplePackets repo too and then we'll send you a new pom.xml for that and you have to do mvn clean package

🥲

[cobalt marlin]

just get the project files and compile it real fast

its such a pain atm

[half harness]

maybe

ok ill do it

[cobalt marlin]

normally idm

but look at this

you see what i am doing here

lmao

[half harness]

💀

not even notpad++

oof

[cobalt marlin]

EXACTLY

its not my pc

[half harness]

ohhhhh

lol

beautiful

[cobalt marlin]

imagine being able to see syntax errors

[half harness]

even some level of autocompletion

[half harness]

it does (only xml errors)

😃

oh i mean notepad doesnt

but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

wait

no its closed source so i cant do it

uiahdsuiahdwgasdxjiowuqadiqioduaidiojwqdoqp[]wd

[cobalt marlin]

they said they can send the files

[inner osprey]

bacckkk

@half harness @cobalt marlin

so what do I do?

SimplePackets repo

[half harness]

download SimplePackets repo

yep

[half harness]

maybe

[inner osprey]

this ?

https://github.com/VisualGPS/SimplePacket

[half harness]

but he back now

:))

No

https://github.com/Tvhee-Dev/SimplePackets'

https://github.com/Tvhee-Dev/SimplePackets

[inner osprey]

ok now what

maven it?

[half harness]

change the pom.xml to this

[inner osprey]

Do I need to do somehting with thr simple packets?

I just downloaded the code

do I maven it ?

;-;

Can I send you it @half harness

[half harness]

use this pom.xml

and then maven it :))

[inner osprey]

maven the plugin bit

[half harness]

or actually

dont maven it

use mvn clean install instead

[cobalt marlin]

okay im on my main pc now

[half harness]

do it on SimplePackets

[inner osprey]

ah

[half harness]

hmm

why is maven not found all of a sudden

it was found all this time 😭

[inner osprey]

Ima just send it to you ;-;

[half harness]

no wait

[inner osprey]

;-;

[cobalt marlin]

no wait gotta make you work

[half harness]

well hes so close

so

i dont want to start over

:))

https://dlcdn.apache.org/maven/maven-3/3.8.6/binaries/apache-maven-3.8.6-bin.zip
Then extract that into the folder of your choice (that you won't delete) such as Documents, Program Files, etc

[inner osprey]

;-;

Can i just send it ;-;

ive learnt that im never doing this again ;-;

[cobalt marlin]

ah freeeedom

[inner osprey]

A true saviour

[prisma wave]

dkim19375

[half harness]

KOTLIN

😮

[prisma wave]

KOTLIN = BEST

[half harness]

Brister Mitten

hello sir

[prisma wave]

hello to you

[onyx loom]

true

[cobalt marlin]

yes coroutines is my lifeline

[prisma wave]

[onyx loom]

u just said "KOTLIN = BEST"

care to explain?

[prisma wave]

i was quoting dkim19375's nickname

quite simple

[onyx loom]

false

I think ur a secret kotlin lover

[prisma wave]

how dare you

[hot hull]

How dare any of you

[inner umbra]

Wouldn't it be Kotlin == "Best"?

[static zealot]

um

[inner umbra]

Shhhhh

[static zealot]

clearly kotlin is a variable

and best is another variable

since its just 1 =

it assignes the value from best

to kotlin

so this means @half harness is making kotlin the best.

it wasn't before dkim used it

[inner umbra]

But since thinking "kotlin is best" is preference, it needs to be checked.
Thus Kotlin == "Best" lol

[half harness]

yes kotlin is indeed best (not a string)
But only in HelpChat and Developer Den, unfortunately
I do not have unlimited power to make this a globally known fact

But soon

soon™️

[distant sun]

Wdym, you can change your name

[inner umbra]

Kotlin is too much work

[half harness]

Yes but 19375

I can't leave that

[inner umbra]

Some discords he can't nickname

[static zealot]

yeah but he can change his global discord name

that's what gaby was saying

[inner umbra]

He would have done it already xD

[prisma wave]

kotlin = best19375

[obtuse gale]

kotlin19 3 best75

[prisma wave]

no thats not good

thats quite bad

[last nacelle]

So why is kotlin = best

[sly sonnet]

why not

[last nacelle]

Ok

[faint leaf]

Anyone here interested in helping to create a runescape/skyrim -esque mmorpg minecraft server? I have most of the other miscellaneous skills needed but lack the in-depth java/spigot experience. If you're interested DM me and I can send more details

MORE INFO: I'm seeking a partner to not only serve as a dev lead / plugin admin but also a partner and someone who is equally as passionate and excited about creating a world as I am.

In a nutshell the idea is a multiplayer RPG in built in the minecraft sandbox, a la Runescape and Skyrim. Style-wise my thoughts are to keep it more on the gritty, realistic side of fantasy (think Game of thrones). The mission is simple-- to create an immersive game that we ourselves would love to get lost in and want to play.

My goal is to create a relatively basic alpha/beta on a manageable map size as to actually be able to release something and build interest / test the market.

I have the knowledge and skills to generate the terrain/map, develop the story, create mechanics, drive marketing, manage other team members etc. but would also like your input on all of this as well. I have basic programming knowledge and have created very basic plugins myself but I don't have near the level of java / spigot expertise to be able to create/manage what's needed and assess public plugins for their use on top of all the other tasks that need done.

[half harness]

Wait so this works in chat, item name/lore, etc?

without components?

I always thought components were required for hex

[static zealot]

no they're not

spigot takes care of that. but it uses the ugly af format

when we playing some minecraft btw?

[half harness]

probably can't today

[ocean quartz]

Well it is always a component that is sent in the packet

[obtuse gale]

True, Spigot is just dumb

[last nacelle]

been out of the loop in general for plugins, any good alternatives to titlemanager? you know, what the cool kids use these days?

also is it possible to hex gradient prefixes in luckperms

should've asked this in #general-plugins srry

[distant sun]

Luckperms leave the parsing to the plugin where the prefix is displayed

So you have to use whatever format your plugins use

[last nacelle]

oh thats right, okay thanks.

[fringe crown]

is there a way to total all the players with specific placeholder? Ex. %player_exp%

[sly sonnet]

twas

yes

#development

[fringe crown]

Oh, sorry I put my question to a wrong channel. Thank you so much for helping.

[distant sun]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/wo1dl8/found_this_image_in_an_article/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[distant sun]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/woehu5/code_example_is_left_as_an_exercise_to_the_reader/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

@prisma wave now this is a real language

[prisma wave]

😵‍💫

[sick belfry]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/wns7tl/sql_intensify/ lmao

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/wnrdfi/i_am_java_the_destroyer_of_worlds/ so true

[stray depot]

How to spawn an item at a specific location in the Inventory?

For example,i give myself a diamond in 8 slot.

[hot hull]

Inventory#setItem or some shit

[distant sun]

Yup

[obtuse gale]

Hi I need assistance with something

[static zealot]

with what exactly?

[obtuse gale]

So basically when a bot sends something in a server or I do a command I’m unable to view of what the bot has sent or is showing

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

Looking for discord support?
HelpChat is a Minecraft plugin and development support server and is not affiliated with discord in any way.
If you require support from discord, we recommend you to visit their official support website at https://support.discord.com
On this website, you can read their FAQs, or open a support ticket if necessary.

Requested by: BlitzOffline • not-discord

[obtuse gale]

Like that bot I’m unable to see what it says

[static zealot]

but you might want to look in settings and make sure embeds are enabled.

[obtuse gale]

Thanks for your help

[ruby dew]

dev-general

[quaint isle]

Hey smart git people, we have a base Laravel project that primarily contains auth and some basic models and controllers. Now we want to build multiple projects based on that one, but we need to be able to pull in changes should we ever alter the base.

What is the correct approach here? Do we fork the base for each new project and then use it as upstream repo?

[pastel imp]

https://imgur.com/a/rrr72d1

@cinder flare Responsiveness!

[cinder flare]

Submodules or a way to hot load separate portions, I'm sure Laravel has one like Django

[ruby dew]

give me level 5 pls

[mighty finch]

Is it possible to modify the viewpoint of the player without physically moving their character?

[ruby dew]

Sent from my SM-G903F using Tapatalk

[ruby dew]

not possible unless with mod afaik

[mighty finch]

Testicles.

Thanks anyway.

[ruby dew]

Basket Balls.

Received Thanks.

[silk kite]

@cinder flare Did you use any framework for that? i.e. bootstrap? Looking to up my 'responsive design' game. I can create a responsive UI but I feel like there should be a better solution than loads of css media queries

[ruby dew]

bootstrap is good

bootstrap is good you can apply the stupid media queries to the elements by setting the right class

[half harness]

Can be done with a plugin using packets

Sort of

actually not really since if they move it would break

but if they stand still they can ig

[cobalt marlin]

i mean you could just cancel the move packets as well

[agile galleon]

set the rendering cam to an armorstand

https://wiki.vg/Protocol#Set_Camera

[cobalt marlin]

holy, thats a thing?

[half harness]

Oh that's also an option
but unless the client sends move packets it won't support movement either 😕

(btw by movement I mean the player being able to sprint while facing right for example)

[cobalt marlin]

hella cool

[cobalt marlin]

according to protocol it does send still, but for the main body

so you could technically make a remote control drone type thing

[half harness]

but those are from the entity that the player is spectating, not the player's WASD

[cobalt marlin]

yes but, translating shouldnt be too difficult

is it though, from what i understand players movement acts as if its coming from that entity

[half harness]

idk it's a little confusing

move packets will act as if they are coming from the other entity

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mighty finch]

Well that’s exactly what I need it for unfortunately

[half harness]

Ah
then assuming you want the inv and hp bar etc I think you'll need a mod

[cobalt marlin]

i mean, you could also create a fake player

on last location

and move the player manually

while making them invisible (vanish, not potion stuff)

[cobalt marlin]

to have hp etc, that would work fine no?

[half harness]

the Set_Camera won't, no

since that's if the player is in spectator mode

sorry wasn't looking here before the ping

didn't realize you sent another method

but that'll require teleporting the player every tick (moving the player manually)

But that'll also give the same issue if sprinting while facing right, as you can't do that in the client so the server wouldn't know if the client would want to do that

[cobalt marlin]

i mean, you can just let the client move as normal

and send a fake player to everyone else

so server side, that player is just acting as normal

on other people's clients they just see a player standing still

[half harness]

But that'll also give the same issue if sprinting while facing right, as you can't do that in the client so the server wouldn't know if the client would want to do that
That would work except for this one

Also you wouldn't need a fake player, you could just modify the packets to other players

[cobalt marlin]

thats what i meant by fake player, it wont exist server-side

[pastel imp]

Uhm, it wasnt star I just pinged him cause we were talking about my project a few days ago.

Regarding what I use, I use Vite + Svelte + SvelteKit (backend) + tailwindcss. For the responsiveness I just created custom media queries in tailwind and ye.

[inner osprey]

Anyone know why this is happening?

@ me

[distant sun]

what exactly is this?

[static zealot]

I assume the main hand keeps changing without him doing anything

[inner osprey]

Cant hotbar slot

[inner osprey]

yep

I have no idea what could even cause this

[static zealot]

a broken mouse could

[inner osprey]

nope

Works fine on hypixel etc

[static zealot]

oh

[ruby dew]

a broken server could then

seems like you cannot switch hotbar slots
and a plugin can cause that

[ocean quartz]

Can the server control your hotbar? I thought that was purely client side

[ruby dew]

i mean like faulty plugin or sth
like some plugin literally calls the setHeldItemSlot thing and the packet gets sent to the player

@inner osprey try toggling on airplane mode and try
maybe that will see what the problem is

[inner osprey]

airplane mode???

also its local

[ruby dew]

damn...
i mean like try cutting your wifi connection and maybe that will work
or install protocollib and check the packet log

[inner osprey]

how to see packets log?

[ruby dew]

wait let me put the exact command for you

/packetlog play server SET_SLOT console
and this will logs all the set slot packets sent by the server to the player to the console
@inner osprey

if the console actually spams the packet log then it means that there are indeed plugins/faulty server code that is making this problem

[pastel imp]

yes you can

well kinda

you can cancel the slot switch

If I recall correctly

which appears to be what's happening.

[pastel imp]

oh ok, so you can also set it. Although I doubt that's what's happening. looks like it's being canceled and not set every tick lol

Maybe try to just remove plugins one by one, that could potentially be doing it

[ruby dew]

yeah i meant that actually
but my brain was having issues from stress so i couldnt see the whole picture

[silk kite]

Ah, OK, thanks!

[inner osprey]

hiya sry yes

done

do I send you logs?

@static zealot any idea?

[pastel imp]

bro you have a bunch of errors of several plugins

and it didn't print anything, read the messages above, it was already stated that the event was being canceled

and also suggested what to do

And I highly recommend fixing your plugins lol