placeholder-api

[limber ice]

they are only in Autorank 5.19+

[vivid sparrow]

@limber ice why if they are not part of the expansion?

[austere hawk]

yo can someone make a placeholder that checks if a player is in a faction or not and returns yes or no?

[austere hawk]

Bump

[limber ice]

@vivid sparrowbecause I can't add placeholders quick to a clip expansion

[vivid sparrow]

?

[prisma plover]

So I am doing /papi ecloud download Player, then I do /papi reload and i don't get any message in my chat saying if it was successfully reloaded or not... https://pastebin.com/Bp1403XM is what I am seeing in my servers console from doing /papi reload... how do i fix this ping me with reply please

[junior musk]

You have the globalprefix expansion, but the plugin wasn't found

try to delete the expansion in PAPI's folder and /papi reload

[prisma plover]

alr

[prisma sonnet]

Hey there! 👋

[18:38:18 ERROR]: [PlaceholderAPI] Failed to load class files of expansion.
java.util.concurrent.CompletionException: java.lang.IllegalStateException: zip file closed
        at me.clip.placeholderapi.expansion.manager.LocalExpansionManager.lambda$findExpansionInFile$7(LocalExpansionManager.java:428) ~[PlaceholderAPI-2.11.2.jar:?]
        at java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$AsyncSupply.run(CompletableFuture.java:1768) ~[?:?]
        at java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$AsyncSupply.exec(CompletableFuture.java:1760) ~[?:?]
        at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinTask.doExec(ForkJoinTask.java:373) ~[?:?]
        at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool$WorkQueue.topLevelExec(ForkJoinPool.java:1182) ~[?:?]
        at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool.scan(ForkJoinPool.java:1655) ~[?:?]
        at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool.runWorker(ForkJoinPool.java:1622) ~[?:?]
        at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinWorkerThread.run(ForkJoinWorkerThread.java:165) ~[?:?]
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: zip file closed
        at java.util.zip.ZipFile.ensureOpen(ZipFile.java:831) ~[?:?]
        at java.util.zip.ZipFile.getEntry(ZipFile.java:330) ~[?:?]
        at java.util.jar.JarFile.getEntry(JarFile.java:518) ~[?:?]
        at java.util.jar.JarFile.getJarEntry(JarFile.java:473) ~[?:?]
        at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.findClass(PluginClassLoader.java:195) ~[paper-api-1.19.3-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:587) ~[?:?]
        at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.loadClass0(PluginClassLoader.java:155) ~[paper-api-1.19.3-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.loadClass(PluginClassLoader.java:130) ~[paper-api-1.19.3-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at io.papermc.paper.plugin.entrypoint.classloader.group.SpigotPluginClassLoaderGroup.lookupClass(SpigotPluginClassLoaderGroup.java:43) ~[paper-1.19.3.jar:git-Paper-448]
        at io.papermc.paper.plugin.entrypoint.classloader.group.SimpleListPluginClassLoaderGroup.getClassByName(SimpleListPluginClassLoaderGroup.java:37) ~[paper-1.19.3.jar:git-Paper-448]
        at io.papermc.paper.plugin.entrypoint.classloader.group.LockingClassLoaderGroup.getClassByName(LockingClassLoaderGroup.java:34) ~[paper-1.19.3.jar:git-Paper-448]        at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.loadClass0(PluginClassLoader.java:173) ~[paper-api-1.19.3-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.loadClass(PluginClassLoader.java:150) ~[paper-api-1.19.3-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:574) ~[?:?]
        at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:520) ~[?:?]
        at me.clip.placeholderapi.util.FileUtil.findClass(FileUtil.java:62) ~[PlaceholderAPI-2.11.2.jar:?]
        at me.clip.placeholderapi.expansion.manager.LocalExpansionManager.lambda$findExpansionInFile$7(LocalExpansionManager.java:405) ~[PlaceholderAPI-2.11.2.jar:?]
        ... 7 more

Why do I get this error?

[distant rock]

Yo. I've been looking for two hours for ways to make placeholder values ​​change color depending on the value. But apparently I didn't follow. Can I do it and with what?

[distant rock]

The error indicates a problem with loading class files from a .jar archive, which is likely a file of your plugin. This may be related to the .jar file being corrupted or closed.

It is possible that the issue is related to not having permissions to read the file or access it. Try checking the file's permissions and make sure you can read and execute it.

It is also possible that the issue is related to the version of your Minecraft server or the PlaceholderAPI plugin, which may not support your server version. Make sure you are using a compatible version of PlaceholderAPI and Minecraft server.

[junior musk]

is it a placeholder from a plugin, or one you're currently making?

[distant rock]

I would like to start by understanding how I can change the colors of %tps%, %ping%, %mspt% depending on the value. Thank you.

[junior musk]

uh, those aren't PAPI placeholders

unless you're using TAB maybe?

[distant rock]

Yea, i use TAB by NEZNAMY

[junior musk]

yeah, so those are TAB exclusive, not managed by PAPI
Though TAB has a feature called placeholder-output-replacements which allows you to change the output of placeholders based on their value (so, exactly what you want)
More info here: https://github.com/NEZNAMY/TAB/wiki/Feature-guide:-Placeholder-output-replacements

[distant rock]

thx, you rescued me. sorry for posting off topic

[junior musk]

dw it's fine 👍

[vivid sparrow]

can you send the link generated by /papi dump ?

[vivid sparrow]

@prisma sonnet are you able to restart your server?

[solar swift]

hello, i have gui with ranks but I (and players too) can get the items from it

[vivid sparrow]

#general-plugins

[solar swift]

sry

[gleaming seal]

as you say to a bot

[gilded spruce]

Bots are scary man

[mint fable]

but from a user's input

[limber ice]

toggle the eCloud?

[balmy marten]

you could disable/enable the ecloud usage ingame

[limber ice]

so disable ecloud means it don't check online versions?

[balmy marten]

prevents downloading from the ecloud

i would assume it would stop checking the ecloud aswell

[limber ice]

ok, for servers that have to many chiefs

[balmy marten]

it was fine before, this just adds an extra step of security for those who have permissions setup wonky

[limber ice]

that is what I was thinking

Autorank now has a built in expansion and if I use same version number clip used, it shows up green, but his list is missing 4 placeholders since they were added last year

[balmy marten]

if its built in now we'll unverifiy the ecloud one

to prevent mismatch

[limber ice]

ok, will older Autorank users still be able to download it

[balmy marten]

only manually

[limber ice]

thats ok, I will just use clips version number to have it green

just the last few weeks had a few people download the expansion and crash Autorank on reload and they were not aware what they did if I use same version number It will stop this issue

[fierce herald]

Hey all, I'm using the Pinger expansion on a Bungeecord Network and trying to get server status to show from the Hub -- however no matter WHAT server I try to ping they all appear offline. Is this a Firewall issue?

[urban marsh]

Make sure you have the right ip/port and if you want you can try to parse it using /papi parse me {placeholder}

[austere hawk]

reload the plugin that is showing it, if you aren't

Hello everyone! I'm trying to create my first JavaScript placeholder. However, I get this error when trying to run my placeholder:
https://pastes.dev/TNyK7mJ2lt

My code is this:

function balance() {
  if (!args.length) {
    return new Number("%vault_eco_balance%").toLocaleString("en-US");
  } else {
    return new Number("%parseother_" + args[0] + "_vault_eco_balance%");
  }
}

In javascript_placeholders.yml, I have this:

balance:
  file: balance.js
example:
  file: example.js

for some reason, the javascript expansion commands isn't working. I downloaded from extendedclip api download and put it in expansions folder.

oh wait i'm not calling the function

🤦

but the javascript expansion commands still aren't working.

[austere hawk]

by "aren't working", I mean, the command gives unknown command error

[vivid sparrow]

What js expansion command?

/jsparse or whatever was removed afaik

[austere hawk]

./jsexpansion

[vivid sparrow]

Yeah it was removed I believe

[austere hawk]

theres nothing when i type /js (tabcomplete)

nothing /javascript

[vivid sparrow]

It wasnt a registered command anyways

[austere hawk]

oo

[vivid sparrow]

/papi parse me %placeholder%

[austere hawk]

but do u have any idea why my code isn't working?

[vivid sparrow]

No

[austere hawk]

this is my current code ```js
function balance() {
if (!args.length) {
return new Number("%vault_eco_balance%").toLocaleString("en-US");
} else {
return new Number("%parseother_" + args[0] + "_vault_eco_balance%");
}
}
balance();

i dont really see why it doesn't work

even tried restarting the server

[vivid sparrow]

I think it needs to be {player name}

[austere hawk]

huh?

oh wait

[vivid sparrow]

%parseother_{args[0]}...

[austere hawk]

nope

[vivid sparrow]

And you need to do more than that

[austere hawk]

I know very good javascript, that isn't a way to put variables inside a string

its ${}

[vivid sparrow]

you can try this return PlaceholderAPI.static.setPlaceholders(BukkitServer.getOfflinePlayer(args[0]), "%" + "vault_eco_balance%");

you use this trick "%" + "vault_eco_balance%" to stop papi from replacing the placeholder before the setPlaceholder method is run.
The way js placeholders work is by replacing placeholders first, so things like new Number("%vault_eco_balance%").toLocaleString("en-US"); will work, and then if you need to create placeholders with variables you need to separate the first % so it will be ignored at first.

[austere hawk]

wow I've never seen that in my life of js development in like 2 years

[vivid sparrow]

Currently papi is trying to parse this placeholder: %parseother_" + args[0] + "_vault_eco_balance% - with all the +s and "s

[austere hawk]

gonna try

Damn it works

[vivid sparrow]

great

and technically you dont need the new Number() part, unless you want to change the formatting

[austere hawk]

that is exactly what im doing

toLocaleString("en-US")

function balance() {
  if (!args.length) {
    return new Number("%vault_eco_balance%").toLocaleString("en-US");
  } else {
    return new Number(
      PlaceholderAPI.static.setPlaceholders(
        BukkitServer.getOfflinePlayer(args[0]),
        "%" + "vault_eco_balance%"
      )
    ).toLocaleString("en-US");
  }
}
balance();

``` new code, it doesn't change the number to locale string :/

[vivid sparrow]

what would that return? toLocaleString("en-Us")

[austere hawk]

(10700).toLocaleString("en-us")
"10,700"

[vivid sparrow]

try to parse this in chat %vault_eco_balance_commas%, it should be what you want

[austere hawk]

oh damn

if i knew that existed

but still i dont get why the code doesn't work tho

it should

ig javascript expansion is just not updated

[vivid sparrow]

what doesn't work?

[austere hawk]

the code

.toLocaleString

[vivid sparrow]

it may not be supported by the js version

use what I sent instead

[austere hawk]

yeah

i think nashorn is just too old

[vivid sparrow]

try this

[austere hawk]

nope, still doesn't

[vivid sparrow]

then yeah, it might not be supported at all

[limber ice]

@austere hawkI'm still using Javascript expansion on Papi 2.11.2

same version you can download from ecloud https://api.extendedclip.com/expansions/javascript/

[austere hawk]

i don't get why you're saying this

[mystic lava]

i downloaded the playertime expansion and reloaded papi but it doesnt work

does anyone know what might be causing the issue?

%playertime_time_hours% i put this in my scoreboard

[lone glacier]

Hi, I've been having a problem with the latest version of the Placeholder API for a while now. After the update the Bungee module stopped working, so "%bungee_<servername>%" always shows 0. Tried to reinstall, edit and drop on another server, unfortunately unsuccessfully. The player is connected to the server.

[mint fable]

Do you have the plugin?

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/playertime-offline-player-mysql-bungeecord-placeholderapi-supported.58915/

[trim mist]

Any chance one of your servers name in your bungee config capitalized?

[mint fable]

they made that pr 😂

[trim mist]

Ahh did they?

[lone glacier]

yeah

[mint fable]

yep lol

[trim mist]

And you confirmed it fixed it?

[lone glacier]

yeah

it works

[trim mist]

I can't believe we missed such a simple oversight. Great work.

Will have that merged and released in an hour.

[mild ermine]

How to make automessages with MessageAnnocer 1.19

[mint fable]

i think sxtanna did a lot of the bungee work on this one

🙃

[trim mist]

Yeah he completely rewrote it

Which is great because it cleaned it up, but missed one thing.

[mint fable]

yep yep

will happen

now that it has only the latest version in the jar, makes it easier to identify and fix issues 😂

[lone glacier]

We did the issue first, but I ended up looking at it myself. I found out that "bungee_total" works, so the servers must be in the cache, finally I noticed "toLowerCase" and immediately realized where the bug was

[mint fable]

Are you able to have a lobby and a Lobby?

just thinking, if we store the lowercase name in the list. Might be possible just to store the data to the name without making it lowercase at all

[lone glacier]

Since I asked, BungeeCord doesn't allow this

[mint fable]

perfecto

ty for help

[lone glacier]

no problem 🙂

[trim mist]

Alright, that's merged and released. Should start showing up in-game in the next hour or so.

[vivid sparrow]

🌈

[lone glacier]

I see, thank you

[trim mist]

And thank you for finding that fix! 😄

[lone glacier]

No problem, open source power 👀

[fierce herald]

Hey, I have been reloading the plugin(s). Any other ideas?

[mystic lava]

i dont, thanks

[austere hawk]

bump

[mint fable]

it will not be verified

This does not mean you can't download it @austere hawk

just has to be manually done https://api.extendedclip.com/expansions/fetch/

[austere hawk]

it was verified before tho?

yo quick question now that papi removed like color parsing, how would I have a placeholder that gets the prefix of the player with color?

[pallid kestrel]

its not letting me import skript

./papi ecloud download skript doesnt work

[eager sapphire]

I can return Int as placeholder?

[mint fable]

Will not be re-verified as things have changed.

[austere hawk]

Well, thats unfortunate

[fierce herald]

Anyone run into an issue with Pinger? All servers Im attempting to ping are showing as offline, running most recent version of PAPI and Paper 1.19.3

[austere hawk]

probably firewall issue

[tawdry pecan]

since the new placeholder api
[20:45:41 WARN]: [DeluxeMenus] Plugin DeluxeMenus v1.13.7-DEV-153 generated an exception while executing task 11765187 java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "java.util.Map.get(Object)" because the return value of "java.util.WeakHashMap.get(Object)" is null at me.neznamy.tab.platforms.bukkit.features.BukkitTabExpansion.onPlaceholderRequest(BukkitTabExpansion.java:53) ~[TAB.v3.3.1.jar:?] at me.clip.placeholderapi.PlaceholderHook.onRequest(PlaceholderHook.java:32) ~[PlaceholderAPI-2.11.3.jar:?] at me.clip.placeholderapi.replacer.CharsReplacer.apply(CharsReplacer.java:119) ~[PlaceholderAPI-2.11.3.jar:?] at me.clip.placeholderapi.PlaceholderAPI.setPlaceholders(PlaceholderAPI.java:71) ~[PlaceholderAPI-2.11.3.jar:?] at com.extendedclip.deluxemenus.menu.MenuHolder.setPlaceholders(MenuHolder.java:95) ~[DeluxeMenus-1.13.7-DEV-153.jar:?] at java.util.stream.ReferencePipeline$3$1.accept(ReferencePipeline.java:197) ~[?:?] at java.util.ArrayList$ArrayListSpliterator.forEachRemaining(ArrayList.java:1625) ~[?:?] at java.util.stream.AbstractPipeline.copyInto(AbstractPipeline.java:509) ~[?:?] at java.util.stream.AbstractPipeline.wrapAndCopyInto(AbstractPipeline.java:499) ~[?:?] at java.util.stream.ReduceOps$ReduceOp.evaluateSequential(ReduceOps.java:921) ~[?:?] at java.util.stream.AbstractPipeline.evaluate(AbstractPipeline.java:234) ~[?:?] at java.util.stream.ReferencePipeline.collect(ReferencePipeline.java:682) ~[?:?] at com.extendedclip.deluxemenus.menu.MenuItem.getItemStack(MenuItem.java:731) ~[DeluxeMenus-1.13.7-DEV-153.jar:?] at com.extendedclip.deluxemenus.menu.Menu.lambda$openMenu$5(Menu.java:414) ~[DeluxeMenus-1.13.7-DEV-153.jar:?] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_19_R2.scheduler.CraftTask.run(CraftTask.java:101) ~[paper-1.19.3.jar:git-Paper-448] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_19_R2.scheduler.CraftAsyncTask.run(CraftAsyncTask.java:57) ~[paper-1.19.3.jar:git-Paper-448] at com.destroystokyo.paper.ServerSchedulerReportingWrapper.run(ServerSchedulerReportingWrapper.java:22) ~[paper-1.19.3.jar:?] at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1136) ~[?:?] at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:635) ~[?:?] at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:833) ~[?:?]

idk. admins can open the menu. My players cant open it

[vivid sparrow]

make sure you are running an update version of TAB

[tawdry pecan]

How do you know it comes from Tab?
Already using the latest version :/

[mint fable]

at me.neznamy.tab.platforms.bukkit.features.BukkitTabExpansion.onPlaceholderRequest(BukkitTabExpansion.java:53) ~[TAB.v3.3.1.jar:?]

[vivid sparrow]

If you downgrade to papi 2.11.2 it works fine? @tawdry pecan

[urban marsh]

Quick question about https://api.extendedclip.com/expansions/bungeecord/
I'm currently using Premium Vanish on the proxy, and for some reason it doesnt seem to decrease the player counter when someone is in vanish, is that intended? or is that a bug.

[vivid sparrow]

Premium vanish should have its own placeholders I guess

Bungee doesn't know about Premium Vanish and will just return the real amount of players

[urban marsh]

Okay! Ill look into it!

[urban marsh]

Yeah they do have placeholders, really annoying that it isnt written out on spigot or on a wiki page or something

[tawdry pecan]

i will test it

[fierce herald]

Pinger-Expansion ALWAYS returns an offline value, I'm currently running the newest version of PAPI with Paper 1.19.3 on a Bungeecord network. The whole machine is Ubuntu 22.04 running on the latest version of Pterodactyl.

Any server I try to ping returns as offline, I've adjusted the ping interval down to 3 and still no results. I disabled the firewall for testing purposes and still was not able to get anything other than offline. Is Pinger just broken?

[mint fable]

it might be ptero, not sure

I just did a search for pinger and saw somebody mention that

but it seems to work for most

i saw somebody mention putting the container ip, if that relates to your issue

[fierce herald]

I already tried using the docker host, but I also tested some larger public minecraft servers and those all appear offline as well.

[tawdry pecan]

yes, 2.11.2 works fine

[nova crane]

Is there any placeholder that when a player have a certain permission to output a special character text?

[vivid sparrow]

Weird, nothing has changed between versions.

[nova crane]

For example if player have permission "iron_unlocked" to output "yes= ɐ" "no=ʠ"

[vivid sparrow]

Changeoutput

[vivid sparrow]

@tawdry pecan you should contact the author of TAB just to make sure. It can not be caused by papi

[hot mulch]

Hi, is there a method to change the time the palceholder refreshes?

[nova crane]

I've made the following javascript placeholder but it doesn't work

[nova crane]

registerPlaceholder('ironunlocked', function(player) {
if (player == null) {
return '';
}

if (player.hasPermission('iron_unlocked')) {
    return 'true';
} else {
    return 'false';
}

});

when using /papi parse me %javascript_ironunlocked% it outputs a blank message with no text

[hot mulch]

Please help me

[junior musk]

wut, that's not how you make js placeholders, is it? https://github.com/PlaceholderAPI/Javascript-Expansion/wiki/Your-First-Script

• you can just use the ChangeOutput expansion instead, it'll be more optimized than js

[junior musk]

placeholders' refresh interval depends on the plugin parsing the placeholders, PAPI only provides the result, but it doesn't refresh them on its own

[nova crane]

well, then chatgpt sucks. Thank you

[junior musk]

lol

[trim mist]

If you have a plugin on SpigotMC for it, just make an inlined class in the plugin and register it through that.

[junior musk]

was gonna say that but I don't think it's the same person since both github repo aren't by the same user

though I see that the plugin already has PAPI support?

so I don't understand the need for an external expansion
https://github.com/quantiom/AdvancedVanish/blob/main/src/main/kotlin/me/quantiom/advancedvanish/hook/impl/PlaceHolderApiHook.kt

why would you do that ? 🤨

just use commands

well, commands

PAPI's main purpose is to display information, not to be used as commands

[vivid sparrow]

because that's not how placeholders are meant to be used

[junior musk]

yeah

[austere hawk]

How do I make placeholders update quicker

[junior musk]

placeholders' refresh interval depends on the plugin parsing the placeholders, PAPI only provides the result, but it doesn't refresh them on its own

[austere hawk]

but the plugin I use is Skript

[junior musk]

then depends on how many times Skript parses the placeholder

[austere hawk]

and I use it in TAB's Plugin

[junior musk]

ah, you're using the Skript placeholder in TAB ?

then it's in TAB's config

it has a section called placeholderapi-refresh-intervals

[austere hawk]

aight I found it

♥️

[junior musk]

you can set the refresh interval for all placeholders, or a specific one

[austere hawk]

Works perfectly

yo how would I use a prefix with color now that color parsing is removed?

[junior musk]

it's up to the plugin parsing the placeholder to parse colors as well

or if it doesn't, I think there's a color expansion you can use

maybe not, can't find it

[austere hawk]

hmm but %vault_prefix% and %luckperms_prefix% just return like raw colorcodes in most of the plugins

[junior musk]

which plugins are you using?

[austere hawk]

like mycommand and discordsrv

[junior musk]

make sure they're up to date

[austere hawk]

its %vault_prefix% but u need the Vault expansion

or LuckPerms_prefix

[junior musk]

that's not the issue

[austere hawk]

sorry

[junior musk]

dw

[austere hawk]

Oh yeah it doesn't

It just returns &4&lOWNER &4

damn I mean their both up to date

the changing of parsing color just breaks a lot of things, guess im stuck on a old version 🥲

I'd use skript

[dawn dew]

why not do it yourself? oh nvm its locked

yep sorry

[junior musk]

I guess it's time for me to make a new expansion to parse colors xD

[dawn dew]

hey how can I use the ChangeOutput placeholder with DeluxeTags? I was trying to use this:
%changeoutput_>_input:{deluxetags_identifier}_matcher:e_ifmatch:| {deluxetags_tag} |_else:%

but I see that you aren't able to compare the text sizes (I think I was hoping to just have it compare size if it had any letter)

is there anyway to compare them? basically if they have a tag it should show | {tag} | [chatmessages they say] but when they dont it just shows their chat I just need to figure out this placeholder

[austere hawk]

Tangy always saving the day 🙏

[dawn dew]

wait I though that was a joke lmao

[junior musk]

@austere hawkshould I call the expansion Parse or Placeholder? (it doesn't only parse colors btw, I'm merging it with my NestedPlaceholders expansion)

because %parse_parse_<placeholder>% feels weird, %placeholder_parse_<placeholder>% seems better imo

not sure

[austere hawk]

hmm, %npc_parse_<placeholder>% :D

[junior musk]

I'm not sure I understand, you want them ChangeOutput to check whether the tag has e in it?

[dawn dew]

oh yeah that was me sort of messing around with it, sorry I want it to check if it returns more than nothing, and if it does then show | tag | if not then dont show anything

[junior musk]

I think you can just remove the e and invert ifmatch and else

this way, it'll check if the placeholder returns nothing, and if that's the case, return nothing

otherwise, it'll show | {deluxetags_tag} |

%changeoutput_equals_input:{deluxetags_identifier}_matcher:_ifmatch:_else:| {deluxetags_tag} |%

[dawn dew]

still shows the | with blank in between

thats what I don't want

[junior musk]

what does /papi parse me %deluxetags_identifier% show?

oh wait

you probably need to change the > with equals

[dawn dew]

ah

thank you

sorry

you are big brain

thank

I ve been tryna use > so mucgh I never tried anything else

[junior musk]

@austere hawkwoo

oh yeah, I could integrate the ParseOther expansion in it now

[austere hawk]

🥲

yo do you guys know u would use the changeoutput to input text whenever a placeholder returns a blank value?

[junior musk]

exactly what we did here

just replace the input, ifmatch and else to the placeholder you want to check, and the values you want displayed instead

[junior musk]

let's goo

uploading it to the ecloud

Hey cj or anyone else, if you can verify my expansion 👍

[wraith berry]

I'm facing an issue with the Statistic expansion where for example %statistic_break_item% (not only) would return twice as much of what is shown in the statistics menu, what's up with that?

[mint fable]

the name is a bit confusing 😂

Is it color, nested, and parseother?

I'll have to see later anyway, gotta head out actually

[mint fable]

#placeholder-api message

the whole statistic "issue" summed up:
https://i.imgur.com/fld6s2c.jpeg

[wraith berry]

got it, thanks!

[junior musk]

yup

[dusky gale]

Hi there, I'd like the statistic placeholder to not show seconds but instead show everything else (statistic_time_played) is it possible to do that

because it just clogs up my scoreboard

[vivid sparrow]

you can use %statistic_time_played:(unit)% for days, hours, and minutes

[dusky gale]

so i have to make multiple?

[vivid sparrow]

%statistic_time_played:days%d %statistic_time_played:hours%h %statistic_time_played:minutes%m
Try this

[dusky gale]

ok tyy

is it possible to make it so ppl who dont have days of playtime not show 0d

[dawn dew]

is it possible to use something like %objective_entryposhigh_{placement}_{1}% inside of change other as an input and then get text value output of say green if green is the highest player on the pllacement scoreboard? it seems to take {objective_entryposhigh_{placement} as a placeholder and then the rest as text

[vivid sparrow]

only if you make your own placeholder, with javascript for example

[dusky gale]

oh okay

[dawn dew]

could you not use change output? i thats my answer to everything at this point

[vivid sparrow]

you can, JS was just an example

[dawn dew]

ah alright

[dawn dew]

yeah just use change output to check if %statistic_time_played:days% is 0 and make it not show anything but if it does have a output more than 0 it will show %statistic_time_played:days%d

[dawn dew]

anyone? :crying:

[olive otter]

hello

How can i fix this error? https://paste.helpch.at/merukegadi.rb

I solved the problem but every time I execute /papi ecoud download Math all my placeholders are corrupted.

[placid smelt]

Where can I find people who are doing DeluxeMenus? I need to hire someone to do some DeluxeMenus designs for me.

[coarse lily]

DESIGN ?

[ember canopy]

Hello, I have an issue where if I use Placeholder it makes it where for some players the gear is just not there and they get one shot by my enchant plugin I am running 1.8.8.

[trim mist]

PlaceholderAPI should have nothing to do with the gear players wear. We simply parse strings into data.

[ember canopy]

If I remove placeholder it works normally I removed and added plugins one by one is it possible to corrupt server data for certain players?

even if I remove my placeholder configs it doesn't fix it

do I need to add an extra expansion to fix it?

[trim mist]

Unless you are somehow making your armor via some expansion, I don't see how PlaceholderAPI is modifying the damage that people are taking.

The only event that PlaceholderAPI listens to on the server is ServerLoadEvent.

[ember canopy]

To be completely honest I don't know how placeholder is doing it either

but it works perfectly without it for some reason

[trim mist]

It can't be directly from PlaceholderAPI. Maybe you have a weird expansion, but that's really out of our control of it being PlaceholderAPI itself.

Though typically expansions don't listen to events either.

[ember canopy]

I tried removing the config folder, and it removed the expansions, and it still was causing damage to act weirdly

let me try to remove all the plugins besides the enchant plugin and the placeholder plugin

it seems like a different plugin that uses placeholder api is causing it

my apologies

[trim mist]

👍

[vivid sparrow]

Why would you need to set a config value? I understand the get part.

No it does not

Again, placeholders arent meant to do such operations, and reading the config all the time is bad.

Ok, and cache the config for reading.

Set Minepacks as required plugin and I meant to cache the YamlConfiguration object

[normal lintel]

placeholder api isnt filling in data

I have it installed

it just shows as example: %pvp_kills{player}%

[urban marsh]

Have you installed the expansion though???

[normal lintel]

there is none

I'm using PvPmanager and PlayTime

[normal lintel]

I dont think there are any...

[coarse lily]

Try statistic expansion

%statistic_player_kills% to display kills as number

[normal lintel]

will that work with pvpmanager?

[coarse lily]

idk

[signal bramble]

using %statistic_player_kills% to get player's kills, how do i format it from 10581 to 10,581

[coarse lily]

Using formatter or numberformat

i'm prefer the second one

%nf_#,##0_{placeholder}%

[signal bramble]

thx

[dapper mauve]

hello?

[trim mist]

If you have a plugin already on SpigotMC just add the expansion class to the plugin 🙂

We currently aren't making new accounts unless it's absolutely necessary.

[dapper mauve]

Well its not my plugin and I only want to help people with my expansions..

[errant iron]

that plugin is open source, just PR the expansion in

[junior musk]

Can I get my expansion verified btw ? 🙃
https://api.extendedclip.com/expansions/placeholder/
(it's basically just NestedPlaceholders with color parsing & ParseOther merged in it)

[normal lintel]

with math how do i divide %statistic_player_kills% by %statistic_deaths%

[mint fable]

%math_2:_{statistic_player_kills}/{statistic_deaths}%

[normal lintel]

can I round that to 100ths?

[mint fable]

2 is the decimal points

[normal lintel]

ohhh

tysm

[serene eagle]

How can I add a placeholder to a scoreboard?
I wish to add the player's balance to a scoreboard
/scoreboard players add <player> <objective> <economy placeholder> like this

[stuck sorrel]

how can I remove the $ dollar symbol in the %vault_eco_balance_formatted% Vault Economy placeholder expansion?

[coarse lily]

That will not work for player who join for the first time, because 0/0 = error

[coarse lily]

@normal lintel change %math_2_{kills}/{deaths}% to %math_2_{kills}/max(1, {deaths})%

[austere hawk]

does anybody have issues with the player expansion in 1.19.4? cause for me it doesnt work

[austere hawk]

[PlaceholderAPI] Failed to load expansion player. Identifier is already in use.
[PlaceholderAPI] Cannot load expansion player due to an unknown issue.

this is what i get for some reason

[trim mist]

Try stopping the server, deleting it from the expansions folder, starting the server back up, and running the command again.

[mint fable]

🤷🏻‍♂️ I just did what they wanted 😂

[coarse lily]

Yeah, that is the issue i asked you before

[fair aurora]

ok so im trying to use the Server module to get the name of the bungee server im on, but when i do %server_name% it just says A Minecraft Server

the server name is the one in server.properties right?

[austere hawk]

i think its cause the protocollib doesnt have support for 1.19.4 yet :/

[fair aurora]

the server-name one

nvm found it

[vivid sparrow]

papi config for anybody wondering

[manic sand]

Hello! Is there any placeholder for another player's balance? Something like %vault_eco_(player)_balance%

[coarse lily]

You can use parseother to do that

%parseother_{player name}_{placeholder you want to display}%

[manic sand]

Oh thank you! I'll try

[stuck sorrel]

how can I remove the $ dollar symbol in the %vault_eco_balance_formatted% Vault Economy placeholder expansion?

[fair aurora]

how can i get the prefix of someone if im using the bungee version of luckperms?

[coarse lily]

what's your ecomomy plugin

[vivid sparrow]

lp placeholders should work fine I guess

[stuck sorrel]

essentials x

oh I change it there?

[fair aurora]

the thing is

when i do

./lpb editor

everything is fine

but its not the same that appears in /lp editor

[coarse lily]

yes

go to config.yml and find Economy

and you will see the line currency-symbol: '$'

[stuck sorrel]

ahh okay ty

I think I’ll leave it

its more case specific

for a certain display already has the $

thanks for the assistance much appreciated

[coarse lily]

np

[vivid sparrow]

well, make sure you have lp bungee configured right @fair aurora

[fair aurora]

yea thats what im doing now

[junior musk]

@Empa#6339 https://luckperms.net/wiki/Syncing-data-between-servers

welp

[vivid sparrow]

lol

[green crow]

There's this placeholder for server countdowns to a specified time %server_countdown_<SimpleDateFormat>_<time>%. But is there a placeholder for a countdown for intervals? Like it counts down ever 3 hours?

[vivid sparrow]

No

[green crow]

Alr thank you ❤️

[empty glen]

is there any placeholder for vault prefix but only the color?

[vivid sparrow]

there used to be but it didn't work properly, so it got removed on the latest version

[empty glen]

like one that just take the color at the end of vault prefix

[vivid sparrow]

yeah it didn't work properly

[empty glen]

oh 😦

[vivid sparrow]

If you are using something like luck perms, I'd suggest to have a meta key for each rank, like prefix-color

[empty glen]

there is an option for that?

[vivid sparrow]

Well you have to set it manually, but it is a very reliable solution

[empty glen]

oh there is

thank you

[empty glen]

so should the placeholder be %luckperms_meta_prefix-color%?

[vivid sparrow]

yeah i think so

[jolly crystal]

Do reports have to be sent on github?

[jolly crystal]

IDK if barry will remove the above message so...
https://paste.helpch.at/ubebikefeh

[vivid sparrow]

Interesting

But yeah, open an issue on github @jolly crystal

On the vault expansion repo

[elfin scaffold]

Hello, I am contacting you for the reason that, in my server I use the placeholder api "statistics" to obtain the stats of kills and deaths of the users. But I have a problem and I don't know how to reset the stats, I tried deleting the playerdata and nothing, I would like to ask if you would know how to reset the stats of death and kills %statistics_death% %statistics_player_kills%.

Sorry my english is very bad

@carmine veldt

i need help please 🥺

[mint fable]

Please refrain from pinging staff, please have patience @elfin scaffold

To reset your stats, they are located inside the World folder world/stats/

If you want to reset all stats for everybody just delete the stats folder entirely

[elfin scaffold]

sorey

sorry*

[elfin scaffold]

I did that, I deleted all the folders, including the world and even so the statistics of my player are not deleted

[elfin scaffold]

I don't understand anything anymore, I deleted absolutely all the folders of the worlds and I still haven't reset myself

[elfin scaffold]

😮

[mint fable]

Did you stop the server beforehand?

[elfin scaffold]

Yeah obviusly

[mint fable]

you deleted the world and made a new one and still not reset???

[elfin scaffold]

Yes

[mint fable]

I have no idea what to tell you

[elfin scaffold]

that's what i'm trying to say

[mint fable]

to me, that seems impossible

If you open the stats folder, is it empty now?

[elfin scaffold]

That is, my stats do not restart, the server does restart it

[elfin scaffold]

yes

[mint fable]

100% positive you are editing the correct server files? I've seen it before that's why I ask

[elfin scaffold]

I have deleted the entire base world and nothing

[errant wedge]

The essentials place holder for top dont update till i restart my server help pls
or when i do /papi reload
is there a way to make it update constantly?

[mint fable]

Can you read this and send over your log? @elfin scaffold

[trim mist]

Baltop? It should be based on the baltop cache in Essentials. You might be able to configure that delay in Essentials.

[elfin scaffold]

Yeah, one moment

[errant wedge]

let me check

[errant wedge]

i checked on the config and cant find it

i thought it would be on the placeholdersapi config

as vault balance updates

[warm plover]

Any idea why I get this in console whenever anyone joins?
[15:07:26 WARN]: [PlaceholderAPI] [math] Invalid Placeholder detected! [15:07:26 WARN]: [PlaceholderAPI] [math] Placeholder: %math_0:_({aureliumskills_power}-10)% [15:07:26 WARN]: [PlaceholderAPI] [math] Cause: '({aureliumskills_power}-10)' is not a valid Math Expression.

[mint fable]

essentials creates the "baltop list", the placeholder expansion just provides it to papi

[errant wedge]

k so where in the essentials file could i make it update constatly

[mint fable]

@errant wedge when you type /baltop do the placeholders happen to update?

[errant wedge]

Nop

[mint fable]

is the /baltop different from the placeholders?

Is /baltop updated, and placeholders are not?
Or are both out of date?

[errant wedge]

both out of date

[mint fable]

how long has it been

[errant wedge]

and the placeholders is %essentials_baltop_player%

[errant wedge]

idk allot

it never updates

[mint fable]

hmm

I would ask essentials in their discord

they would definitely know more 😂

trying to look through esssentials code is...

hard

[errant wedge]

yeah i guess lol

well thanks anyways

[mint fable]

gl 👍

[analog flax]

Hi, I'm unable to publish an update for my PlaceholderAPI expansion.

It's 500-ing out when I post it

Please check our discord for updates.

CODE: ERR_500:
<WSGIRequest: POST '/expansions/huskhomes/versions/add/'>```

[errant wedge]

would u happen to know their discord

as if i search essentails discord the plugin appears

[analog flax]

Is the endpoint for posting expansion updates down? D:

[elfin scaffold]

?paste

[errant wedge]

nvmind i found it

[elfin scaffold]

https://paste.helpch.at/onahigariw.makefile

[vivid sparrow]

?

[elfin scaffold]

this is?

[mint fable]

Can you specify if /papi parse me %statistic_player_kills% was reset?

because you're using ajleaderboards

if you're looking at those placeholders, you have to reset the leaderboard AFTER resetting the statistics

because ajleaderboards caches the values itself as well

[errant wedge]

hey i realized

./baltop does update

the stats

i just need a way the holograms update constantly

[mint fable]

cc: @trim mist if you're still around, do you think that it would because we only calculate it upon register? iirc essentials doesn't actually update baltop by itself, but when /baltop is run by a user, but with a time limit of every 5 minutes or so (no clue how long) https://github.com/PlaceholderAPI/Essentials-Expansion/blob/master/src/main/java/com/extendedclip/papi/expansion/essentials/EssentialsExpansion.java#L81

here is the BalanceTop class fyi https://github.com/EssentialsX/Essentials/blob/bf14b88600601019fb51dd6e6a1524e411e9b339/Essentials/src/main/java/net/essentialsx/api/v2/services/BalanceTop.java

Would need a scheduled task to update it...

[mint fable]

Do you have any command scheduler plugin by chance?

[errant wedge]

No, but i dont mind adding one

[mint fable]

maybe just a basic one to run /baltop every 5 minutes or something

for now

[elfin scaffold]

That's it, it was solved by magic haha

[errant wedge]

k

[elfin scaffold]

thanks 💕

[mint fable]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/commandscheduler.94797/

make sure you can run it from console first

/baltop force is a command

might wanna use that

[errant wedge]

thanks

[trim mist]

That makes sense, but I don't feel it should be on us to constantly request it to be updated. It's too dynamic in terms of the amount of users they have and whatnot.

[mint fable]

I would agree with that

[calm sluice]

hey, does someone know how to reset stats from statistic placeholder?

[trim mist]

It pulls from world data so you'd have to reset player data in the world iirc.

[calm sluice]

i did that and it didnt reset

[mint fable]

How are you verifying that?

[calm sluice]

verifying what?

[mint fable]

That it didn't reset.

[calm sluice]

i still have got 10h playtime

[analog flax]

Is the PlaceholderAPI eCloud version updating service down?

It's erroring out with a 500 for me. Could a member of staff please check this for me?

When I try and "Save Changes" on a new version with a file, it returns a red screen with

<WSGIRequest: POST '/expansions/huskhomes/versions/add/'>```

I've tried signing in/out and on multiple devices

[mint fable]

Where are you seeing this information?

[calm sluice]

on my scoreboard

[mint fable]

Is it on a scoreboard, tab, a leaderboard from ajleaderboards, etc.?

Which placeholder is on your scoreboard @calm sluice

[calm sluice]

%statistic_time_played%

[mint fable]

Ah, I noticed what glare said. Statistics pull from the stats folder, you need to delete that @calm sluice

[calm sluice]

i have already deleted that 2 times and it still didnt reset

[mint fable]

shut down server, delete, start server, not cleared?

[calm sluice]

nvm im an idiot

it reseted rn

i was deleting the file with server being on

anyway, thanks for help

[round cargo]

hey! how do I upload my plugin on papi ecloud?

[balmy marten]

We don't accept plugins, just expansions

[stone edge]

Verify my expansions

[marsh mantle]

Guyssss

Can someone help meee?

[junior musk]

Can you verify my expansion as well ;-; https://api.extendedclip.com/expansions/placeholder/

[junior musk]

what do you need?

[marsh mantle]

Idk why, but I logged out of my discord acc my majn one and I didn’t use my real email and I need my email to verify it to get back in but idk what todo. Does that mean i can’t get back in? I can’t do my number because it says it sent like stuff on my spam email nd that but I didn’t use my real 1 is there any other way to get it back?

[junior musk]

This server is for help with Minecraft plugins, not Discord, you'd probably want to get help through DIscord's official support page

https://support.discord.com/

[marsh mantle]

Oh alr thanks

[errant wedge]

Hi i am trying to do a hologram with ranks of deaths

and i am using the /papi ecloud download statistics

is there a way to rank that?

as i am using the following %statistic_deaths%

[mint fable]

like a leaderboard? You would need an external plugin like ajleaderboards

[errant wedge]

k ill instale it

k i have installed it

how can i do that?

[mint fable]

see wiki/spigot page

[errant wedge]

thanks

[errant wedge]

hey @mint fable can u help me witj tje plugin?

[errant wedge]

o sorry for ping

where can i send an image

[mint fable]

?imgur

[errant wedge]

oh k

https://i.imgur.com/UVFGFQ3.png

it isnt working

and i made the leaderboard like %statistic_deaths%

[mint fable]

first, test the placeholder with /papi parse <player> %placeholder%

also can do /papi parse me

[errant wedge]

yeah the %statistic_deaths% work

the /papi parse me %ajlb_lb_statistic_death_1_alltime_name% doesnt work

i think

it says loading

[mint fable]

it says loading?

not the placeholder?

[errant wedge]

yea

[errant wedge]

i did this exact command

[mint fable]

what if you parse it again now that it probably loaded

[errant wedge]

and it says on chat loading

oh it says board doesnt exist

but if i do /ajl list it shows

and if i do /ajl list statistic_deaths

it works

idk why it doesnt

for the other stuff

[mint fable]

deaths

[errant wedge]

bruh

yes

i just realised

lol

sorry for wasting time

altho

in the hologram it is with an s

[mint fable]

hd?

[errant wedge]

/papi parse me %ajlb_lb_statistic_deaths_1_alltime_name% and now this only gives me the name

[mint fable]

good

[errant wedge]

/hd setline topmuertes 2 &e&l#1 %ajlb_lb_statistic_deaths_1_alltime_name 1%

oh my bad

1 inside the %%

now it works it shows the name

but can i make it show the death count?

i am trying to do this /hd setline topmuertes 2 &e&l#1 &f%ajlb_lb_statistic_deaths_1_alltime_name% &c&l%ajlb_lb_statistic_deaths_1_alltime%

but the death count dont work

jus the name work

[mint fable]

%ajlb_lb_<board>_<number>_<type>_value%

https://wiki.ajg0702.us/ajleaderboards/setup/placeholders#leaderboard-placeholders

found the FAQ?

[errant wedge]

yes thanks

[mint fable]

👍

[errant wedge]

it works

[mint fable]

actually the FAQ is really nice

[errant wedge]

yeah it is really usefull

[raw fable]

Was %essentials_nickname_stripped% removed as placeholder? Doesn't seem to parse anymore

[deep hollow]

Hey, /papi parse me %nested_math_2_({tokens_Tokenator_level}*4.5)*(1+(({arefyboost_tokens})/100))% it's giving 454.5 but I want to show it as 454, and when I remove 2 decimals, so math_0_, it shows as 500

anyone knows how to round just on decimals?

[raw fable]

Seems %luckperms_current_group_on_track_<track>% also invalid and does nothing.

[junior musk]

try with 0:down

[junior musk]

group on track works fine for me, make sure you're using the latest version of LuckPerms and its expansion

[deep hollow]

0:down shows 400 instead of 454

[junior musk]

wat

[deep hollow]

yeah 🙄 xd

[junior musk]

what does this show %math_0:down_100*4.5*(1+1/100)% ?

[coarse lily]

what ?

[deep hollow]

400

[coarse lily]

%math_0:down_454.5%

[junior musk]

oh nvm, now it does it for me as well

I was using an older version

[deep hollow]

yeah this shows 454

[junior musk]

oh

uh

I think the expansion might be broken, not sure

but it worked fine on the older version

[coarse lily]

what's the number of tokens_Tokenator_level and arefyboost_tokens ?

[deep hollow]

Tokenator level = 100, arefyboost_tokens = 2.0

With 2 decimals: https://m.arefy.net/JppvZXE.png
With 0:down: https://m.arefy.net/QpuSFm8.png

[junior musk]

/papi ecloud download Math 1.4.1
/papi reload
use 0:down

[coarse lily]

mine have the same result with you now

🥴

[deep hollow]

Oh with that version worked

[junior musk]

I think the Andre may have broken rounding again when updating EvalEx v3

@arctic loom not sure if we're using it wrong or if there's an issue, but it would be nice if you could check

[deep hollow]

So meanwhile 1.4.1 version would work right?

[junior musk]

yeah

[deep hollow]

perf ty both!

[arctic loom]

?

"The Andre"

[junior musk]

what?

wait, did I confuse you with someone else?

oh

bruh

sorry idk why I added "The" there 😅

probably meant "that"

idk

[arctic loom]

Also, the behaviour should be the same. Just provide the full placeholder used

[junior musk]

%math_0:down_100*4.5*(1+1/100)% or just %math_0:down_454.5%

on 1.4.1 it returns 454 correctly, but on 2.0.0 it returns 400

[arctic loom]

Idk... math expressions should be the same.

[junior musk]

actually it works fine with %math_0:down_454.5%, but not %math_0:down_100*4.5*(1+1/100)% which is the same math result, but not the same output

[junior musk]

yeah they are, without the rounding it works fine, but with it, it doesn't

[modern light]

why placeholders for my plugins isnt working? what can be issue

[junior musk]

which plugins and which placeholders?

I've tried with something simpler:
%math_0.5*100/10% returns 5, as expected
%math_0:up_0.5*100/10% returns 10
%math_0:down_0.5*100/10% returns 0
I think the expansion somehow rounds more than just the decimal

[modern light]

SuperMobCoins and %supermobcoins_mobcoins_formatted%

its just showing %supermobcoins_mobcoins_formatted%

[junior musk]

does it show correctly in chat when you use /papi parse me %supermobcoins_mobcoins_formatted% ?

[modern light]

nope

still just %supermobcoins_mobcoins_formatted%

[junior musk]

then it's an issue with SuperMobCoins

try to contact the developer

[zealous heron]

Hello everyone, how are you? I simply want to let you know that I am a web developer with expertise in both front end and back end web development as well as SEO. If you want these services, reach out to me.

[deep hollow]

yeah, it returns more than just the decimal, I tested it before, but with Math 1.4.1 works fine, so it must be an issue with latest version of Math

[raw rune]

hello, how can i return displayname of player, who have a certain value of some placeholder?

[austere hawk]

a

Dependency 'me.clip:placeholderapi:2.11.1' not found

pom.xml

<repositories>
<repository>
<id>placeholderapi</id>
<url>https://repo.extendedclip.com/content/repositories/placeholderapi/</url>
</repository>
</repositories>
<dependencies>
<dependency>
<groupId>me.clip</groupId>
<artifactId>placeholderapi</artifactId>
<version>2.11.1</version>
<scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>
</dependencies>

[warm plover]

Hello! I'm trying to parse a nested placeholder to replace and get a substring of a rarity. Would anyone know how I could do this with nested? I tried this but it parses incorrectly: papi parse 0bviouslee %nested_3_string_replacecharacters_color-correction_{string_substring_1,14_{mmoitems_tier_BASIC}}%

It parses as mmoitems_tier}

uh oh eyes aren't a good sign

oh no they are following me

[junior musk]

works fine for me, maybe you had one of those old and broken version of Nested where I f-ed up the entire inner placeholder code because of 2 words

[warm plover]

Hmm

Looks like I have to use the new placeholder expansion though huh

[junior musk]

and you can't update it because I deleted it from the ecloud to replace it with a new expansion called Placeholder which includes color parsing and parseother but it's not verified yet xD

https://api.extendedclip.com/expansions/placeholder/https://api.extendedclip.com/expansions/placeholder/

yeah

[warm plover]

I'll have to update a loooooooot of my old stuff ;-;

darn

[junior musk]

well, you can keep both in the meantime

since the other placeholders you use are (I'm assuming) working, you can keep them as they are for now until you ever feel like updating xD

[warm plover]

The question is, will I ever feel like it

Nah I'll probably get to it soon lol, just gotta find all the weird spots I'm using nested

[junior musk]

well you don't really need to update it lol

you can just keep the old ones and use Placeholder for the new ones

you just have to change nested_ by placeholder_parse_

[warm plover]

Ah, works like a charm now. Thanks a lot!

[junior musk]

btw if you need to parse the output multiple times (the previous %nested_#_<placeholder>%) it's now %placeholder_parse:#_<placeholder>%

[warm plover]

Ah noice

[junior musk]

and if you need to parse colors, %placeholder_colors_<placeholder>%, or for parseother, %placeholder_parseother:[player_name|placeholder]_<placeholder>%

[mint fable]

You deleted nested?

Oof, was holding off on verifying placeholder til I got some other input on it essentially

I think the name is confusing Placeholder and I was thinking about it replacing things that are already in mass use like parseother/nested

But now nested is gone… I don’t really know why you would need the parseother part though.

All just my thoughts/opinion.
That’s what was keeping me from verifying it ATM

[junior musk]

I originally was just going to add colors due to request, then I thought "hey, I could add parseother aswell, so it would work with inner placeholder as well" and so I did

if you want me to rename it, then sure, but idk what to name it

maybe I could just use Parse with parse_normal, parse_colors and parse_other?

[zinc musk]

hey there, I'm using the latest PAPI, Luckperms, and latest Spigot 1.12.2 builds but %luckperms_prefix% breaks up in Title Manager's scoreboard (latest build also)

[pale jay]

did you download luckperms's ecloud thingy

/papi ecloud download LuckPerms

[stone edge]

Additionally, what does "breaks up in Title Manager's scoreboard" mean?

[analog flax]

@mint fable hey, uh, sorry for being an annoying individual and pinging you, but you helped me before and I have asked without pinging for 3 days. The PlaceholderAPI ecloud upload/update expansion service seems to be down (returns 500 server errors when I try and update my expansion) and it hasn't been acknowledged by any staff best I can tell -- would you mind confirming if this is indeed the case just so I can be sure it's not on my end? sorry once again for being annoying

[analog flax]

oh huh that message appears every time I edit my message for typos too lol

that's kind weird

[unkempt charm]

maybe it has something to do with this? https://i.imgur.com/l9VX3FG.png

[trim mist]

William, are you actually logged in?

[errant iron]

^

[analog flax]

yup

[analog flax]

this has been a thing for awhile -- so it shouldn't be. This just means I have to ask for approval

[errant iron]

Yeah this is unintended behavior for sure

[trim mist]

What's the name of the expansion?

[analog flax]

I've logged in, out, shaken it all about, etc

huskhomes

[errant iron]

Any reason to not put the expansion in your plugin directly?

[analog flax]

because your documentation is dumb and told me not to

[trim mist]

What

We encourage inlining expansions if you have a plugin for it 😛

[analog flax]

your docs don't

not explicitly

they provide pros and cons

lol

[trim mist]

CC: @arctic loom Can we get some documentation update to encourage people to inline their expansions vs putting them in the eCloud? No rush on it, sometime this week or next week? 🙂

[errant iron]

yeah should probably rewrite those

[analog flax]

not a dig at you guys btw -- it's cool, but yeah, your docs definitely should explicitly say "don't do this"

[errant iron]

well it's never too late to swap!

[analog flax]

because I agree, I should just do that lol

It's not, no, and I will eventually lol

[errant iron]

no external dependencies, no mismatched versions, etc.

it's as easy as copy and paste basically

[arctic loom]

Idk.... I'm for the oposite really.

At least when they're not relying on anything really

[analog flax]

now i'm confused

[errant iron]

The vast majority of expansions are for a plugin

They should go in the plugin

[trim mist]

Sorry I'll rephrase, encouraging them to inline them to a plugin when it relies on the plugin.

[green harbor]

is there any way to change the guild name or add a bracket [ ] to it, when they created a guild?.

[trim mist]

#spigot-linking

[arctic loom]

What pages exactly would need changes?

[analog flax]

uhh in any case is the ecloud upload service definitely down rn?

I sort of get the vibe as though the ecloud is on maintenence mode and has been for awhile

[trim mist]

It is not down at all.

But could you clarify which pages on the wiki you think need updated?

So that we can clarify that documentation?

[errant iron]

Presumably the first big one https://github.com/PlaceholderAPI/PlaceholderAPI/wiki/PlaceholderExpansion

Should be as easy as writing "Should I make an external expansion or an internal expansion?"

And putting what I said earlier basically lol

[arctic loom]

I'll do changes once I'm back at my PC

[analog flax]

https://github.com/PlaceholderAPI/PlaceholderAPI/wiki/PlaceholderExpansion

[errant iron]

And also listing the Internal first, and probably adding some warning language for External

[analog flax]

basically this one

[analog flax]

agreed

[trim mist]

Also when does the 5xx error throw? On adding a version, submitting, etc? I'm looking at 100MB of logs here so any more route infomation would make this quicker.

[analog flax]

Sure thing, let me try and reproduce again. I can't share a screenshot exactly but

[analog flax]

i'm not doing that lol

one sec

Please check our discord for updates.

CODE: ERR_500:
<WSGIRequest: POST '/expansions/huskhomes/versions/add/'>

Tried to upload expansion, filled in a description and selected file, clicked save

I get a red screen with a "this is fine" meme and this text

https://api.extendedclip.com/expansions/huskhomes/versions/add/

(sorry if I am coming across as a bit of an ass by the way -- not really my intent, I know you folks are busy running a very popular plugin and such. I do genuinely appreciate your help here 😅)

Worth noting I just logged in and out of my eCloud account before doing this just to make sure it wasn't an auth issue

[errant iron]

Yeah it's likely a silly error, happens a lot in Django 😔

[analog flax]

👍

[errant iron]

Just gotta find the stacktrace in the logs first lol

[trim mist]

What's even weirder is that it's returning a 200 status code in the logs.

[errant iron]

I did also just go to that link and got the 500

[trim mist]

You're not logged in

Or don't have perms

I load it just fine

[analog flax]

it's worth mentioning that the 500 page returns the HTML with 200 OK

[errant iron]

Ah so it's a permission issue lmao

But it just throws 500 instead of actually saying things

[analog flax]

shouldn't it return 403 if it's a perm issue?

[errant iron]

classic

[trim mist]

Let me look at app logs and not network logs.

[analog flax]

500 is server error

[errant iron]

Internal Django perm check guaranteed

actually, it's probably not even a perm check

it probably just assumes something about the user object or something

that's what usually bites me

[analog flax]

it did work at some point until recently though which is odd

[trim mist]

IntegrityError: UNIQUE constraint failed: main_version.slug

[errant iron]

oooh database moment

[trim mist]

Did you delete a version and try to re-release it?

[analog flax]

the version I'm trying to upload is 3.0

which doesn't exist

I haven't personally done that no

I actually can't do that afaik lol

that's an admin only action as far as I can tell

versions are 1.0, 1.0.1, 1.0.2, 2.0

interestingly though the URL of https://api.extendedclip.com/expansions/huskhomes/versions/huskhomes-30/ is 30

despite being 2.0

[trim mist]

Try bumping it to 3.0.1?

[errant iron]

yeah that would definitely do it

[analog flax]

oh huh

okay

[errant iron]

wonder why the slug algorithm decided 30 for your old one

[analog flax]

oh github is down

well that's great lol

[errant iron]

doesn't seem to be for me

[trim mist]

I promise you I had nothing to do with that 🙂

[analog flax]

lolol

all good

push operations are down worldwide https://www.githubstatus.com/

[errant iron]

ah lol

[analog flax]

🙃

[errant iron]

bad day for expansion work

[trim mist]

Guilds can rename after they are created via /guild rename. Afaik you can't force brackets unless you use a chat plugin that supports PlaceholderAPI and then you can manually add it 🙂

[analog flax]

yes

okay sweet, that works, thank you very much for debugging that for me 🙂

[errant iron]

now Glare has two things on his ecloud todo

fix the auth 500, fix the slug taken 500

[trim mist]

That's a 2 week from now problem

[errant iron]

lmao

[trim mist]

Nice

What doesn't make sense is it gives the slug based on the version

[errant iron]

i mean slugs are standard practice

though this would've been a good time to use another url param for version imo lol

[trim mist]

So how the heck did it get 30 if that version was 20 lol

That's a eCloud 2.0 problem

[errant iron]

the slug algorithm is kinda wild, all kinds of url safety and stuff

[trim mist]

Alright, I'm shutting back down and getting ready to drive to the airport.

[errant iron]

thanks for the help bossman!

[analog flax]

oh its worth mentioning I asked staff to rename some versions for me a few times when I forgot you cant edit them

now that I remember

might not be your fault actually lol

or, it might be like, an issue with the thing that lets you rename versions

oh uhh by the way, could my update get verified? lol

[zinc musk]

Sorry, I wasn't clear with that..
It does get the group prefix, though let's say if the prefix is set to &8[&aVisitor&8] , it displays "&8[&aVisitor&8]" without the color codes applied in the actual text, so it shows the & symbols and the color code.

I thought it might have been a problem with either Nametag Edit or TitleManager but i tried using the placeholder in a gui, in a hologram and it still failed to load it, so I'm wondering if PAPI is not compatible with 1.12.2 or if luckperms' expansion dropped the support for 1.12 with the latest versions

[sharp glacier]

how would you implement placeholders in a scoreboard?

[junior musk]

if it's your own plugin, then parse placeholders with PlaceholderAPI.setPlaceholders(OfflinePlayer, String)

[sharp glacier]

im assuming String is placeholder?

[junior musk]

yeah

[junior musk]

I've recently made an expansion called Placeholder which allows you to parse placeholders with colors (though it's not verified yet so you'll need to download it manually) https://api.extendedclip.com/expansions/placeholder/

[sharp glacier]

can offlineplayer be bukkitplayer?

[junior musk]

are you using the JS expansion ?

[sharp glacier]

no

[junior musk]

there's no bukkitplayer object in the Spigot API

there's Player and OfflinePlayer (which both work) but no BukkitPlayer

[sharp glacier]

yes Player my bad

[junior musk]

ah then yes

[sharp glacier]

alright ty

[stone edge]

seems that the plugin you are using doesnt parse colors

you have many alternatives, including (iirc) the expansion MoreGradients, which allows you to use %moregradients_colorize_yourstuff%

[junior musk]

yeah, TM hasn't been updated ever since PAPI stopped coloring placeholders

[stone edge]

you can download it with /papi ecloud download MoreGradients

however, i recommend you to start using TAB instead

[junior musk]

yeah but that's for gradients though, not normal colors? and I already suggested my expansion

[errant iron]

unless you use Velocity 😔

[stone edge]

it works for both, scoreboard and tab list

[stone edge]

which i doubt xD

[junior musk]

uh, TM doesn't work on Velocity either lol

[stone edge]

i tho it had ended up supporting velocity (TAB)

[errant iron]

nah he dropped it recently

[stone edge]

well, one more reason to not use Velocity then

[errant iron]

one more reason???

[junior musk]

it technically never dropped it, just disabled the module, so you have to compile it manually

[stone edge]

yes, the first one is recoding my plugins naa

[errant iron]

lmao

Velocity is way better

glad i switched

[stone edge]

already made an addon for it

[errant iron]

at this point we're just dropping TAB lmao

[stone edge]

methods are really similar

[junior musk]

you know that you can just use TAB on the backend right?

[errant iron]

don't get the placeholders on the proxy

which was the original usage

[stone edge]

after reading the message the TAB's dev made about velocitu support

[errant iron]

now I moved the stuff we had in TAB out of TAB, so no more reason for TAB

[stone edge]

i was like, wtf, did they really were like that

[junior musk]

but the person we're talking about is using TitleManager, which is a Spigot plugin

[stone edge]

o m g

[stone edge]

it does parse color codes, if it doesn't, hope someone tells the author so he can fix it

but that placeholder was created for that reason

[junior musk]

well the plugin hasn't been updated since 2021 so I doubt it

[stone edge]

i mean the expansion lmao

[junior musk]

oh

[sharp glacier]

do i need to get the placeholder all by itself or can i pass in the scoreboard text?

“%placeholder%”
“can i do this %placeholder%”

[junior musk]

maybe I guess, idk

[junior musk]

you can

the string is just some text which can contain multiple placeholders

[stone edge]

player can be null also

but string cannot be null iirc

[junior musk]

yeah

[sharp glacier]

i wish i can install placeholderapi on velocity proxy and it is on every single server

[junior musk]

As of now, it's not possible. Hopefully if v3 ever comes out and has support for proxies it'll be possible 🥲

[sharp glacier]

yeah i wish

[junior musk]

something that plugins like BTLP and TAB did was create a separate plugin that acts as a bridge between backend and the proxy, you put it on your backend; the proxy requests placeholders and the bridge sends back the placeholders parsed

[sharp glacier]

if theres no placeholders to set, will it just skip it

[junior musk]

yes

[sharp glacier]

working on placeholderapi support for a plugin I’m contributing too and learning java at the same time

https://gitlab.com/lawmixer/law-mixer-uhc-core-dev/-/blob/uhccore-placeholder-support/src/main/java/com/gmail/val59000mc/placeholderapi.java#L47

[junior musk]

you have zCoordinate twice btw

also, that doesn't seem right

[sharp glacier]

oh i do lmao

[junior musk]

check the onRequest method here https://github.com/PlaceholderAPI/PlaceholderAPI/wiki/PlaceholderExpansion#with-a-plugin-internal-class

[sharp glacier]

oh i use offlineplayer?

[junior musk]

in the method's arguments, yeah

[sharp glacier]

im assuming offline players get offline and online player?

[junior musk]

then, if you need the Player instance, then you can just use getPlayer() off of the OfflinePlayer object, and add a null check in case the player isn't online

[turbid tide]

You can get an online player from an offline player if that player is online

[sharp glacier]

alright

[turbid tide]

Can you maybe extend this question? I'm not sure I fully understand it. Just making sure so you don't end up having problems later on.

[zinc musk]

it used to before the update tho, and im not sure if moregradients would work for my case since it's a 1.12 server and gradients are introduced in the later updates

[junior musk]

I'm guessing he's asking whether it will throw an error or not when there's no placeholder present in the string

[sharp glacier]

if theres no placeholder in the string, will it throw an exception or just doesnt care about it

[turbid tide]

Ah yeah then tanguygab is correct

it will just return back the string

it does not error

[junior musk]

@zinc musk

[sharp glacier]

alright ill make them changes now

[stone edge]

if you are not using velocity (even if you do, probably you are using spigot/paper also)

switch to TAB instead of NametagEdit

[junior musk]

why is everyone talking about Velocity while TitleManager is a Spigot plugin

there's like 0 parallels

[stone edge]

everyone no, just Star

but since he mentioned, i need to re mention it again

since TAB can be installed in proxies too (just no velocity)

[zinc musk]

so how would that work? is it %placeholder_parse_luckperms_prefix%

[junior musk]

almost, %placeholder_colors_luckperms_prefix%

[zinc musk]

I'll look into tab

[stone edge]

if you use it, you wont need to parse anything else

[junior musk]

oh then you won't need my expansion if you do

[junior musk]

yeah

[trim mist]

👌

[arctic loom]

@trim mist @analog flax I've made a PR now that you can review.
https://github.com/PlaceholderAPI/PlaceholderAPI/pull/944

Strangely enough did GitHub not allow me to make a branch called wiki/improve-placeholderexpansion-page xD

[trim mist]

Perfect. I'm arriving at the airport. I'll check it out when I get to my layover.

Appreciate you Andre 🙂

[analog flax]

lol cool

[turbid tide]

Andre can you please not use interrogative affirmations for the wiki? It can get very very confusing for someone that uses them very rarely or not at all. (this is just a personal request)

Also, something seems to be broken here

Also, it seems like code snippets are no longer highlighted

[arctic loom]

That's not broken. It's just GitHub's wiki page syntax which doesn't work outside the wiki

[turbid tide]

Oh. That makes sense. For some reason I thought Commands is just a title in the same page.

[arctic loom]

Not sure what you mean with that... Remember:
<-- Not native english speaking person

[analog flax]

I submitted a review

I didn't go in depth on the grammar

[turbid tide]

Another note, this could create confusion and we might end up with people setting up their identifier as rel_identifier instead of identifier.

Maybe another way of phrasing it would be:

Relational Placeholders are always prefixed with rel_, meaning that a relational placeholder that has the identifier set as example with value friend looks like %rel_example_friend% when used.

[analog flax]

Tbh; I think that page needs breaking up into separate pages for internal/external expansions & API overview, it's quite long and wordy

I do also think individual descriptions of methods aren't useful in general

Like, that's best done in a Javadoc. Clear examples are much better

(which it has to be fair! it's not bad documentation, just a lot of the good stuff is buried in..words :P)

and so hard to find, and easy to walk into garden paths. I like the improvements you've made, though, Andre.

[turbid tide]

Yeah. I'm not a native speaker either but I'm talking about this:

... i.e. because you're not the dev of it and it isn't open source, should you consider alternative solutions (i.e. asking the dev to implement it) before using this method.

Those are the only notes I have. Other than that, William is not wrong. it might be best to split it up in pages.

• getting started
• internal expansion
• external expansion
• relational placeholders

or something like that

[arctic loom]

Personally, I feel like that at this point the wiki would be better of being put onto a page hosting like GitHub Pages... GitHub Wiki is just so limited and tools like MkDocs would provide much wanted extension and customization.

[analog flax]

I think you can have effective docs without overcomplicating it

Check plan docs for instance

Very similar situation for PAPI with expansions for data viewers for instance

Hosted on GitHub wikis and very effective and easy to read through and understand

And probably no longer or shorter than PAPI’s existing docs in terms of character count

[zinc musk]

so you suggested that I use %placeholder_color_luckperms_prefix% ?

[junior musk]

well if you're switching to TAB, you don't need to use that

but if you are sticking to TitleManager, then yes

[zinc musk]

yeah I like TM's features better and thank you :D

[junior musk]

alr

[sharp glacier]

it tells me register is not valid?

https://gitlab.com/lawmixer/law-mixer-uhc-core-dev/-/blob/uhccore-placeholder-support/src/main/java/com/gmail/val59000mc/UhcCore.java

and then it tells me PlaceholderExpasion is not valid?
https://gitlab.com/lawmixer/law-mixer-uhc-core-dev/-/blob/uhccore-placeholder-support/src/main/java/com/gmail/val59000mc/placeholderapi.java

[vivid sparrow]

make sure papi is imported right

[sharp glacier]

how

(sorry im new to plugin dev)

for the depencies compileOnly 'me.clip:placeholderapi:{VERSION}'

do i put placeholder api latest version?

[vivid sparrow]

you need to replace {Version}

[sharp glacier]

but what do i replace it with

[vivid sparrow]

a version, it is the same as the one from spigot

latest is 2.11.3

[sharp glacier]

placeholderapi version?

[vivid sparrow]

yes

[sharp glacier]

ah alright, ty

[vivid sparrow]

np

[sharp glacier]

nevermind, it is still not working
https://i.imgur.com/GonW5Dd.png

C:\Users\Owner\OneDrive\Documents\law-mixer-uhc-core-dev\src\main\java\com\gmail\val59000mc\placeholderapi.java:16: error: package me.clip.placeholderapi.expasion does not exist
import me.clip.placeholderapi.expasion.PlaceholderExpasion; 

[vivid sparrow]

did you reload gradle?

[sharp glacier]

yes i did

[vivid sparrow]

hmm

[sharp glacier]

https://i.imgur.com/XbHYCNv.png

now its saying that

[mint fable]

PlaceholderExpansion

missing n

[sharp glacier]

LOL

[vivid sparrow]

yeah dont type imports manually

[mint fable]