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warm canyon Jul 3, 2022, 9:32 AM

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My ISP said they can transfer us over to a static IP business account but I'm unsure if they will actually provide the static IP.

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The issue comes to when I need to CHANGE the IP, who is responsible for that process.

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 9:32 AM

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They are

warm canyon Jul 3, 2022, 9:32 AM

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Aight.

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 9:32 AM

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You just setup everything else

warm canyon Jul 3, 2022, 9:32 AM

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and "everything else" being?

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 9:32 AM

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So changing your bungeecord or other stuff to the new ip/port.

warm canyon Jul 3, 2022, 9:32 AM

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fading turtle So changing your bungeecord or other stuff to the new ip/port.

I'm using Paper if that matters, but yeah I can do that pretty easy

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Here's the thing

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Right now I'm on a dynamic IP and when I asked my ISP for an IP change, they said 2 things

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#1 was that they can't manually change the IP themselves, and it had something to do with the router being 3rd party

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unsure if that has any bearing on why they can't

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 9:33 AM

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It does, I'm assuming your router isn't from the ISP then.

warm canyon Jul 3, 2022, 9:33 AM

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#2 is that leaving my ONT unhooked for 2 hours would reset my public IP, and it does, but it ONLY resets the latter 2 number groups of the IP

warm canyon Jul 3, 2022, 9:34 AM

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fading turtle It does, I'm assuming your router isn't from the ISP then.

correct, 3rd party

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Now what they said in order to get a static IP, was that they'd come and install their own router

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 9:34 AM

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True

warm canyon Jul 3, 2022, 9:34 AM

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which raises its own issue of, am I going to be able to port forward with it like I can on my Linksys

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because on my Linksys I can do port range triggering

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and somehow that's the only way the port forwards work

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 9:34 AM

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You can hook the other thing up as a modem/ access point tho

warm canyon Jul 3, 2022, 9:35 AM

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on my previous ISP Time Warner, their Router had port forwarding but it was bare bones and it didn't even work

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So I'm afraid of having that issue happen again

warm canyon Jul 3, 2022, 9:35 AM

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fading turtle You can hook the other thing up as a modem/ access point tho

I wouldn't know how to do that

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 9:35 AM

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Ask em about it

warm canyon Jul 3, 2022, 9:35 AM

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and it's not a modem technically, it's an ONT

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fiber optic thing

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But back to my original question: #minecraft message

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 9:36 AM

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I have 2 data centers I run, but I would recommend getting a converter.

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Actually it should be able to function as a converter already

warm canyon Jul 3, 2022, 9:37 AM

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If it comes down to it I'll learn that, but for now I just want to determine if the votifier is how they bamboozled me

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and I don't know anyone else to ask so here I am

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Because my thought process is, how the hell can they scan my public IP for unprotected ports if they don't even know what my public IP is after I change it. Which also raises the question of: how are they getting my public IP behind 2 proxies lmao

slow imp Jul 3, 2022, 11:25 AM

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100 servers 👀

rapid ocean Jul 3, 2022, 12:57 PM

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congrats

woeful tree Jul 3, 2022, 1:28 PM

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Like I hadn't guessed that already. laugh

woeful tree Jul 3, 2022, 1:29 PM

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slow imp 100 servers 👀

flex

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No hate gaby, just having a little fun.

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 1:29 PM

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now i am, a day late though

slow imp Jul 3, 2022, 1:31 PM

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that's nice

cunning abyss Jul 3, 2022, 1:38 PM

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misty root now i am, a day late though

Dw bro

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So

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Yesterday i did something

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about villager and mob activation range

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https://timings.aikar.co/?id=5a810db7be3841e5ad112fff9de018d2

Aikar's Timings Viewer

Aikar's Timings Viewer - View Timings v2 reports from Paper and Sponge

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This is a timings i maded with a pick of 69 players

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and as you can see the server wasn't really good

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Any help?

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https://imgur.com/LZXrIrn

Imgur

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This part here

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Where we got the player peak

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 2:10 PM

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its just the usual stuff still

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mob ticks and chunk ticks take the majority

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in chunk, mob spawn ticks are the majority now

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villagers are a bit improved

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went to 2 from around 4 last time

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do you have mobs on your resource and lobby worlds?

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 2:12 PM

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cunning abyss Dw bro

^

cunning abyss Jul 3, 2022, 2:14 PM

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misty root do you have mobs on your resource and lobby worlds?

I do have friendly mob on resource world

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And no mob in lobby world

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 2:15 PM

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i will dm you since cant send screenshots here

cunning abyss Jul 3, 2022, 2:15 PM

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tysm

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You're so kind

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:06 PM

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does someone know if there is a platform or discord server or anything like that, that own a relatively new minecraft server and want to build a team around it?

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 3:12 PM

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@safe wolf wdym by that

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:15 PM

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well I recently started a small discord server with the goal of it going public someday, I have professional development and visual design experience but I am looking for some people that might be interested joining the team as builders / plugin devs etc to collaborate in order to build a valuable experience for everybody

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:19 PM

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You would need a server idea first

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:20 PM

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Well obviously that already exists, but how far do you think i have to be until i can start looking for collaborators?

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Do you think it requires me to already have an established playerbase and server network until i can look for external assistance?

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:21 PM

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No

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:22 PM

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Any opinion or advice is appreciated

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I am just trying to figure out what i need to do, and how to approach being a server owner

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:26 PM

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Get devs and get people to advertise a lot. Get to 200 discord members before launching the server for a good starting player base. If you're looking to give new devs experience then just have them work for free, as experience is very valuable. This is what I've seen / learned from being in hundreds of rising Minecraft servers over the past few years.

bright raptor Jul 3, 2022, 3:29 PM

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"Just have them work for free" smh

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 3:29 PM

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We are currently working on our advertising campaign and I can tell you, its hell

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And give them a bit of compensation.

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:29 PM

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Advertising in reddit and discord can get you to 200 within a few weeks

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 3:29 PM

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Otherwise work won't be 100%

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 3:29 PM

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foggy nymph Advertising in reddit and discord can get you to 200 within a few weeks

True. But we want 2k.

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:30 PM

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Minecraft servers all die anyway

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 3:30 PM

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True.

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:30 PM

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What's the point of starting one

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 3:30 PM

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Mostly fun in this case

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:30 PM

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for me, its the challenge

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how long can i keep it fun to play on

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:30 PM

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You would have to have really good monetization to not loose money

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:31 PM

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it's mainly a technical challenge for me as well, i want to see how much vanilla custom content i can provide to my players

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 3:31 PM

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I'm not doing it for the money

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Doing it for fun

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:31 PM

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Im working on sort of a gun based game, sorta like hunt showdown, but I'm going to have events and record for videos, not as an actual active server

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:31 PM

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Ruskei is right, server costs need to be covered

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:31 PM

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safe wolf it's mainly a technical challenge for me as well, i want to see how much vanilla...

Honestly plugins are starting to rival mods

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Custom ui, blocks, and items are already possible with plugins and resourcepacks

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:32 PM

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I really like originrealms for example, but i am frustrated with their monetization model and campaign

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:33 PM

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I don't know anything about originrealms, what typenof server is it?

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:33 PM

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enhanced vanilla-ish

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:33 PM

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originrealms is a multiplayer smp server where there is a lot of custom content and new blocks, all powered by datapacks and plugins

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:34 PM

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issue is using the latest version while still maintaining a good tps with a high player number

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:35 PM

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The only successful server model I've seen for making money is to copy a popular game mode, make it a simulator, and then have a bunch of p2w features

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:35 PM

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i couldnt really get over 100 people on my old server without sacrificing mechanics

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its just annoying honestly

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:35 PM

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I do not want to copy their concept, but i do like it, i want to see if i can at least recreate a portion of their value while avoiding some mistakes they made imo, and changing some things

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:35 PM

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the thing is, if you want to have a big server

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you need instancing

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no other way around it

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:36 PM

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i am a realist, i probably won't be having a big server any time soon

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:36 PM

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i personally dont find getting the server into 100 - 200 range as difficult

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:36 PM

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what made me start my server was the technical challenge, i wanted to see what i can add to mc using plugins and datapacks, and maybe i can work with others to add even more

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:36 PM

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but the community management aspect is just hell

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finding capable people to manage the community is just too much honestly

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:37 PM

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i would honestly be happy with 25 players per day

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all i want is people to enjoy the custom content

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 3:38 PM

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We've been developing our network for like 6-8 months now. Constantly updating and reworking stuff is a mess aswell

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But at the end it'll be worth it

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:38 PM

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i genuinely believe that if the players enjoy the gameplay the server grows on its own

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 3:38 PM

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^^^

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:38 PM

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true and false

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 3:38 PM

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Hence why the immense amount of work

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:38 PM

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you do need the push at the start

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 3:39 PM

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Also true

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:39 PM

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like i said, for me its a technical experiment

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:39 PM

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but once it reaches a point

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you dont really need more

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people bring people

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its a social game afterall

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:39 PM

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okay, so now that we kind of expanded the topic

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can we go back to the original question

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how does someone start

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:40 PM

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Have a clear idea for a server

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:40 PM

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get good and get some respect from capable people

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:40 PM

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does it need to be super unique?

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:40 PM

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then partner with someone that fills something you cant do

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im a developer for example and my partner back then handled all modelling / art / graphic design

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it worked quite well

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:41 PM

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misty root get good and get some respect from capable people

how?

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writing my own plugins?

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:41 PM

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exist in communities

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nah no need

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:42 PM

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so you're saying it's about building reputation

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:42 PM

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obviously, people wont join someone's team and work with them

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unless they trust them (or they are getting paid to do so)

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:42 PM

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understandable

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what are some factors that would make you want to work for / with someone else?

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:43 PM

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Money

bright raptor Jul 3, 2022, 3:43 PM

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Shared goals

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:43 PM

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bright raptor Shared goals

this

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 3:43 PM

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Money mostly, but good work environment and a chill vibe too

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:43 PM

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especially if its a "hey we co-own it and work on it" type

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you need motivation

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:43 PM

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mhm go it!

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:43 PM

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I would work for free rn I just want experience

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:43 PM

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how do i find people that share my goals?

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:44 PM

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start by sharing your goals

fading turtle Jul 3, 2022, 3:44 PM

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Talk to people

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:44 PM

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working in a team is (at least for me) much better anyway

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its a great motivator

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:44 PM

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Get peer pressured into working (joke)

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:44 PM

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when sharing my goals, is it better if i have concrete content to show

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or is it enough to explain

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:45 PM

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i mean, personally i would not really join someones team

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unless i knew that they were capable of whatever they claim they want to do

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but that doesnt really require you to build the project

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:45 PM

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how would i prove it?

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:45 PM

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i mean.. again just exist

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for a developer its easy-ish to see if they are capable just from talking usually

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art / design is not that different

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:46 PM

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so if i prove my development skills and share some blockbench work that would be a good start?

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:47 PM

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yeah and just do what you are doing right now

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:47 PM

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Aki when you say "capable" what do you mean? Like at what point could someone call themselves a capable plugindev

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:48 PM

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at the point they realize they are worse than they think they are

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:48 PM

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foggy nymph Aki when you say "capable" what do you mean? Like at what point could someone ca...

for me personally, as long as no spoonfeeding is required it usually is fine

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:48 PM

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Maybe this is a #dev-general topic but I wanna ask here anyway

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:49 PM

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a good measure of a developers skills is how humble they are seriously

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from my own experience

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those that claimed to be able to do everything cant do anything

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:49 PM

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misty root for me personally, as long as no spoonfeeding is required it usually is fine

I mean how do I know how far I am from being able to say I'm decent at making plugins.

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:49 PM

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you dont

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:49 PM

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the best way to judge someones skills is to just throw them into something they are not used to

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like

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:49 PM

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and with being a developer thats kinda the nature

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there is always more to learn

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especially for server development

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you dont need god level programming skills

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:50 PM

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if you write plugins, try jumping into another scene, like webdev if you can get along, you are skilled as a dev

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the ability to adapt is important

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:51 PM

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cant find the word for it, but problem solving skills is what i care about more basically

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:51 PM

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like, can you only write plugins because you followed a bunch of tutorials, or do you actually know how inheritance etc works

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:52 PM

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you can always learn the method and structure to do something that you need

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but with some people, that just doesnt work

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:52 PM

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a good developer is someone that can solve their way out of an unexpected issue

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if you learned things one way, then all of a sudden the framework / library you worked with dies

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can you adapt to a new framework?

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how quickly can you pick yourself back up

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etc

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:53 PM

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a bit of a different topic

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but i love how they released the mappings for the server

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:54 PM

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who?

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:54 PM

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came back to mc development after 3 - 4 years of break

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and holy shit its so much easier when you dont have to play around with obfuscated code

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:55 PM

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safe wolf who?

mojang did

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 3:55 PM

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Wait what

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For which versions?

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:56 PM

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tbf i am fairly new to spigot / mc dev, but i have a huge amount of native / web development experience so reading the docs and working from there is not hard for me

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:56 PM

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newer versions has it

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:56 PM

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safe wolf tbf i am fairly new to spigot / mc dev, but i have a huge amount of native / we...

yeah same here, but i did dabble quite a lot back in the day when i was in uni still

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:57 PM

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even though i don't like java as a language xd

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anyways

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thank you for all your advice

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:57 PM

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i mean its basically c# but a bit more annoying

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:58 PM

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my language choices / preferences are controversial xd

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i like typescript xd

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:58 PM

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i will stick to kotlin though, coroutines are quite useful

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 3:58 PM

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whenever working low level i use go and rust

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 3:59 PM

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i had to work with c++ for the majority of my career but not anymore luckily

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rust is a favorite for me as well

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i dont get to use it though

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:00 PM

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can we maybe summarize the previous topic, i want to take some notes

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so, how should i approach starting my server

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:01 PM

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how i did mine back in the day was:
get people for stuff that i cant do (aka graphics + builds)
have a distinct difference from the usual server spam
do targeted advertisement

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creating smp no#1204 wont really bring success

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or factions / skyblock no#4204 same deal

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and last thing i would do if i was to open one right now would be to make it scale-able

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:03 PM

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how did you 'get' people and where

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:03 PM

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i ran into a hard cap back then with player amount

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:03 PM

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safe wolf how did you 'get' people and where

just asked people i knew

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:04 PM

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i see

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:07 PM

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This isnt related but i find it interesting that Minecraft tech modpacks are so popular

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Maybe I'm just not informed but it's a type of genre I haven't seen anywhere else

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:07 PM

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foggy nymph This isnt related but i find it interesting that Minecraft tech modpacks are so ...

it spawned a new genre of games

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factorio - satisfactory

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:08 PM

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its probably because redstone is the reason some people play this game at all

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:08 PM

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What

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No not redstone

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Tech mods

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:08 PM

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the original tekkit

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basically

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:08 PM

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same target demographic tho

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:08 PM

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Ehh

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:08 PM

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redstoners like tech modpacks xd

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:08 PM

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That's just not always true

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:09 PM

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time to make a cpu with redstone

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:09 PM

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I love tech modpacks but hate redstone

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:09 PM

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misty root time to make a cpu with redstone

i did that before

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:09 PM

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There are different types of redstoners

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:09 PM

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most fun part was serial communication

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:09 PM

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making a small one is quite simple funny enough

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:09 PM

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People who automate and people who make computational stuff

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:10 PM

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yeah i started mc because of computational redstone

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we used minecraft in school to teach about logic

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xd

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i enjoyed the class a lot so i bought the game

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:11 PM

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you can make basically all gates with minecraft

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:11 PM

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yeah

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:11 PM

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Minecraft redstone is technically Turing complete

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:11 PM

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it is, but its bulky and slow

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i really liked building huge circuits in redstone

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:12 PM

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unrelated but did anyone check minestom here?

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:12 PM

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i kinda wanna try actual logic simulation software

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:12 PM

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trust me you dont

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:13 PM

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this? https://minestom.net/

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:13 PM

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software used in logic circuits is just painfully bad

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ux wise especially

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:13 PM

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safe wolf this? https://minestom.net/

yeah that one

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multithreaded

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but lacks basically everything currently

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:13 PM

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someone needs to rewrite mc in a different language

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java is not made for games

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:14 PM

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i mean server itself being java is quite fine

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:14 PM

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and no bedrock is shit

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:14 PM

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its more that all logic is being handled except like chat

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on a single thread is the issue

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and they are too deep in to change it currently

drifting thistle Jul 3, 2022, 4:14 PM

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hi, if someone want help me im trying to do a menu ;-; (for a skyblock server)

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:15 PM

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isn't singleplayer technically a server too?

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i was always wondering about this

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like

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:15 PM

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not exactly

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:15 PM

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safe wolf and no bedrock is shit

bedrock is awesome

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it's way better than java

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:15 PM

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misty root not exactly

please elaborate

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:15 PM

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i mean i get 200 fps on a tablet

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:15 PM

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safe wolf isn't singleplayer technically a server too?

integrated server

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:16 PM

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foggy nymph i mean i get 200 fps on a tablet

that doesn't make the game better

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:16 PM

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i never dig into singleplayer, but i dont think it hosts a local server

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so no sockets no packets being sent

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:16 PM

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safe wolf that doesn't make the game better

i mean it's way more popular than java

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:16 PM

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misty root i never dig into singleplayer, but i dont think it hosts a local server

minecraft added an integrated server when the lan feature was added

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:16 PM

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foggy nymph i mean it's way more popular than java

well thats not hard if you bundle it with windows 10

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:16 PM

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in f3 menu you can actually see the ping between you and the integrated server in single player

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:17 PM

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ah im wrong then

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tho i never really play singleplayer so

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i never really play in general

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:17 PM

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i was always wondering if you could run papermc as your singleplayer server

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:18 PM

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you can manually do it

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host it on local and just connect to it

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:18 PM

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yeah but that's double the ram usage no?

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:18 PM

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not really

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for 1 person you barely need any ram regardless

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500 mb or so should be enough easily

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:19 PM

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is that true? cause

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:19 PM

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misty root 500 mb or so should be enough easily

for the server that is

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:19 PM

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when i start my server it takes 5gb with no players in it xd

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:19 PM

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whats your java arguments

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:19 PM

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probably because of plugins

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:19 PM

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no

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has nothing to do with plugins

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it just depends on how you set up your jvm

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:20 PM

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well i set the max to 16gb

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the minimum stayed the same

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:20 PM

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java doesnt use the minimum it requires

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it usually uses more the more you give it

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:20 PM

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LMAO

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WHY

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:21 PM

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im willing to bet you can use the server fine with xmx set to 2gig

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:21 PM

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doesnt java garbage collection also kinda get wonky after 4 gb of ram

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:21 PM

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yes

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:21 PM

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that's so stupid

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:21 PM

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for 100 people online

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:21 PM

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mhm, java sucks

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:21 PM

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i was using around 6gb xmx

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:21 PM

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misty root i was using around 6gb xmx

ze fuck

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:21 PM

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ram really is no the limiting factor

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not*

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:21 PM

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also

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:21 PM

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how important is the cpu?

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i am running on a vps

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:21 PM

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extremely important

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especially single threaded performance of the cpu

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:22 PM

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idk the server cpu

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chances are its a virtual core xd

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:22 PM

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server cpus are bad for minecraft servers funny enough

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:22 PM

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oh

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:22 PM

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you want a high single thread performance one

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:22 PM

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so i should get an i7

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:22 PM

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so a gaming one goes well

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:22 PM

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why does my memory usage look like this with 0 players on: https://imgur.com/a/xPuSSNb

Imgur

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:22 PM

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yep

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intel in general

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:23 PM

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is there no multithreaded mode?

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:23 PM

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chat is the only thing

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thats multi threaded afaik

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on top of that,

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outside of netty stuff most is not thread safe

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:24 PM

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so, time to cancel my vps and get one with a desktop cpu

bright raptor Jul 3, 2022, 4:24 PM

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foggy nymph why does my memory usage look like this with 0 players on: https://imgur.com/a/x...

Wait for the gc

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:24 PM

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safe wolf so, time to cancel my vps and get one with a desktop cpu

ye but its so backwards, you would expect server software to be scaleable

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:24 PM

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does someone have experience with how performance intensive dynmap is?

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:24 PM

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i think there is a more modern alternative

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for dynmap

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i cant recall the name though

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:26 PM

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why is the bounding box of a stair just a cube

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and not an actual stair shape

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this hurts

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:27 PM

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because then putting two stairs facing each other would cause the player to be able to walk between the gap

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 4:28 PM

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but... the player CAN walk in between the gap

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:28 PM

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misty root i think there is a more modern alternative

liveatlas?

misty root Jul 3, 2022, 4:29 PM

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im not sure honestly, i just remember reading about how a modern alternative being better

safe wolf Jul 3, 2022, 4:30 PM

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or plexmap

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hmm

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thank you'

inland forge Jul 3, 2022, 5:00 PM

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Yo, is there any type of server proxy where you don't need to specify servers in config?

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ye

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basically something where you could do /join ip:host without having it in configuration already

forest gazelle Jul 3, 2022, 5:34 PM

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inland forge Yo, is there any type of server proxy where you don't need to specify servers in...

bungee sorta has the ability to do this, just not by default

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you need to use a plugin to add a backend server to it's map of servers dynamically, then you can /join it like normal

foggy nymph Jul 3, 2022, 7:32 PM

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am i allowed to put a youtube link as the video in #showcase

warm canyon Jul 3, 2022, 8:25 PM

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woeful tree Like I hadn't guessed that already. <a:laugh:971109332857020426>

Lmao ok kiddo

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First thing you did was call me an idiot and somehow I’m the dickhead

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#minecraft message

elfin rover Jul 3, 2022, 11:23 PM

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[18:21:42 INFO]: UUID of player DeChris_ is 3fb31439-8163-4e55-adf9-04ac9eea6c87
[18:21:42 WARN]: Failed to handle packet for /myip:51988
java.lang.NullPointerException
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_8_R3.PlayerList.a(PlayerList.java:134) ~[server.jar:1.8.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_8_R3.LoginListener.b(LoginListener.java:144) ~[server.jar:1.8.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_8_R3.LoginListener.c(LoginListener.java:54) ~[server.jar:1.8.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_8_R3.NetworkManager.a(NetworkManager.java:269) ~[server.jar:1.8.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_8_R3.ServerConnection.c(ServerConnection.java:149) [server.jar:1.8.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_8_R3.MinecraftServer.B(MinecraftServer.java:968) [server.jar:1.8.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_8_R3.DedicatedServer.B(DedicatedServer.java:382) [server.jar:1.8.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_8_R3.MinecraftServer.A(MinecraftServer.java:806) [server.jar:1.8.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_8_R3.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:708) [server.jar:1.8.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT]
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748) [?:1.8.0_312]
[18:21:42 INFO]: com.mojang.authlib.GameProfile@73dc5771[id=3fb31439-8163-4e55-adf9-04ac9eea6c87,name=DeChris_,properties={textures=[com.mojang.authlib.properties.Property@65d02f0]},legacy=false] (/myip:51988) lost connection: Internal server error

Good afternoon, guys any idea of why is this happening? the same with aSpigot (1.7-1.8)jar and this FoxSpigot 1.8 jar

last sierra Jul 3, 2022, 11:29 PM

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Do you use bungeecord?

elfin rover Jul 3, 2022, 11:52 PM

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last sierra Do you use bungeecord?

yeah i do

elfin rover Jul 4, 2022, 12:09 AM

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last sierra Do you use bungeecord?

im using a plugin of HCF called VAPOR, i deleted it and i was able to enter, now only i can get in

elfin rover Jul 4, 2022, 12:11 AM

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last sierra Do you use bungeecord?

https://imgur.com/6GlgNgP

Imgur

timber compass Jul 4, 2022, 12:40 AM

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How can I verify my account with the plugin I bought?

copper trench Jul 4, 2022, 12:48 AM

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So i've currently got DeluxeTags installed and it's commands are properly working. The issue i'm having atm is whenever I "equip" a tag, It doesn't show up on the players prefix.

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I've tried replacing the placeholders with the correct ones, but I still can't seem to get it to work.

flat magnet Jul 4, 2022, 1:01 AM

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@copper trench send your chat plugins config

copper trench Jul 4, 2022, 1:37 AM

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Hmm, maybe that's where the confusion is. So I have noth Essentials Chat and Luckperms installed. How do I see which one is being used over the other?

unreal adder Jul 4, 2022, 2:14 AM

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Does ChatChat support:

Radius channels
DiscordSRV

serene lotus Jul 4, 2022, 7:36 AM

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in the current beta build DiscordSRV mostly works, radius chat is planned I believe but yet to be implemented

elfin rover Jul 4, 2022, 11:27 AM

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elfin rover ``` [18:21:42 INFO]: UUID of player DeChris_ is 3fb31439-8163-4e55-adf9-04ac9eea...

Anyone? D:

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 12:21 PM

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radius chat seems very difficult to implement in discord

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at least from what i know

oblique nova Jul 4, 2022, 12:36 PM

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radius chat in discord wut ?

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 12:50 PM

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like proximity chat

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i dont think the discord api allows for selective muting / volume reduction

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 12:50 PM

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probably wasn't the proximity/radius bit that was confusing

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more so in discord

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 12:51 PM

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☝️

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 12:51 PM

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why are you pointing at my message, I'm talking to you

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 12:51 PM

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well i said what you said

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i think

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 12:51 PM

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they said radius chat in discord wut ?

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then you said like proximity chat

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as if the "radius chat" was the bit they didn't understand

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 12:52 PM

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well i guess we can let them interpret what they meant @oblique nova

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 12:52 PM

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anyway radius chat in discord would only work by having a bunch of different channels and switching people between them

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but there'd be a cap

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believe discord has a 150 channel cap

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 12:53 PM

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alternatively you could have a bunch of bots which are each in a one on one call with a player

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 12:53 PM

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why would you want that integration, does dsrv have it?

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 12:53 PM

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then you can juggle around the audio between them

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 12:54 PM

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oh ivan you also misinterpreted the original message from cube

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or maybe you were just adding onto it

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you can tell me

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wait

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nvm i missed a message

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 12:54 PM

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forest gazelle alternatively you could have a bunch of bots which are each in a one on one call...

hadn't thought of that, would probably work, but might have bandwidth issues

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and might be against discord tos

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 12:55 PM

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😩

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maybe the best way would just be to pester discord devs

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they're adding all kinds of niche features, may as well add server side selective muting

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 12:56 PM

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that would be good

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but I got another idea

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originally I was thinking every player would have their own vc, and the bot would switch them if they came in radius of another player

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that would mean there's a 150 player cap

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but instead you could have one big channel where all players are deafened, for people not on radius

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then you can have a 299 cap

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 12:57 PM

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150 channels in one category, but you can create additional categories

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 12:57 PM

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o

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 12:57 PM

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is there a cap for number of people in one vc

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 12:58 PM

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100

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 12:58 PM

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not bad

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 12:58 PM

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maybe the bot idea would be better

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 12:59 PM

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switching players around channels and letting discord handle all audio is definitely less intensive like you said

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:00 PM

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yeah but your idea scales

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if we ignore bandwidth and any blocks discord has

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 1:01 PM

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we could go one step further

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since we're not using discord's built in channel stuff to do any real audio control flow stuff anyways

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just have each player direct call a bot

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that shouldn't violate tos even with thousands of bots

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and even better if a bot is allowed to direct call more than one person at the same time, though idk if that is in the api

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:02 PM

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direct call?

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I dont think bots are able to call users

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 1:03 PM

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ah

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darn

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:03 PM

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nvm I was wrong

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:04 PM

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need to be friends with someone to call them

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and you can't friend request bots

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 1:04 PM

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sad

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:04 PM

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except in the case of gaby and I, where we became friended before discord blocked it

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:04 PM

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early feature

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 1:04 PM

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:o

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well even if you cant call a bot you could create a new server per player

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:05 PM

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3506_ShibaCool

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:05 PM

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ivan

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 1:05 PM

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yes

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:05 PM

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what's the point of that

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:05 PM

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bots cant create servers 100%

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 1:05 PM

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to overcome the channel limit

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:05 PM

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just use multiple categories if needed, and multiple lobbies for muted players

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:05 PM

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gaby already gave us the solution to that

west flame Jul 4, 2022, 1:05 PM

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There is a 100 channel limit on discord. (I think its been upped to 250)

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:06 PM

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Lobbies

Lobby 1
Lobby 2

Areas

Area 1
Area 2
..
Area n

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it is more than 100, yapp

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 1:06 PM

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there is definitely a global max channel limit

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:06 PM

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we have over 100

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:06 PM

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kinda tempted to make this a real thing

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:06 PM

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it is called minecord

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:07 PM

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that seems to be text?

serene lotus Jul 4, 2022, 1:07 PM

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pig bad

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:07 PM

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wat

serene lotus Jul 4, 2022, 1:07 PM

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yup

umbral lanceBOT Jul 4, 2022, 1:07 PM

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You dun goofed.

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:07 PM

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@buoyant haven https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/minecord-proximity-voice-chat.59479/

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:08 PM

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there's two minecords

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:08 PM

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multiple actually

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:08 PM

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i see

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:09 PM

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but that's the one I was talking about

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:09 PM

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well mine would be better because it wouldn't be called minecord

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would call it jeremy or something

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 1:09 PM

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qhat gaby linked uses the method piggy was talking about

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where people are shuffled between channels

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:09 PM

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channels?

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 1:09 PM

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voice channels

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:09 PM

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yeah, voice

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:09 PM

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ew it's premium

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:09 PM

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I meant the method

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I guess you would check what players are close to eachother and merge them to the same channel?

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 1:10 PM

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yeah

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that's not very fluid

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:10 PM

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it really isnt

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 1:10 PM

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the one on one bot method could have a much better gradient

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:11 PM

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especially with a bit slower connection where you aren't connected instantly, you will lose a part of the conversation 🤣

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Best option: proximity chat mod from fabric 😛

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 1:11 PM

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that probably exposes your ip though

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:12 PM

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doesn't have to

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:12 PM

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https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/simple-voice-chat

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:13 PM

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ivan think about it this way

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if a purely client side mod can discover other clients on the same server also using a mod

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there must be some way to communicate between clients without having the ip

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so they can use that avenue of communication to transfer voice data too

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:13 PM

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the server sends the data?

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 1:13 PM

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that's true

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:13 PM

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speaker > server > other players

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:13 PM

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that'd need a server side mod too

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:13 PM

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tru

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 1:14 PM

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for vc?

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no

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if i were to make this i would do

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:14 PM

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orrrrrrrr just use Mumble 😌

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:14 PM

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who the fuck uses mumble or teamspeak these days

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 1:14 PM

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have a small server i as the author run which lets people discover other people connected to the same ip

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:14 PM

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who the fuck ever used mumble in the first place?

forest gazelle Jul 4, 2022, 1:14 PM

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then holepunch their audio together

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:14 PM

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well I mean use mumble only for the proximity chat part

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:)

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besides that use discord 😃

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:15 PM

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On Bukkit/Spigot/Paper config file is located in plugins/voicechat/voicechat-server.properties
Looks like it is also server side

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https://modrepo.de/minecraft/voicechat/wiki/?t=setup

ModRepo

Simple Voice Chat

A working voice chat in Minecraft!

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:15 PM

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even when I started gaming teamspeak was already dead

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you're younger than me

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it's legitimately shocking to see you using mumble

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mc should just add vc

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:17 PM

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interesting how that mod can be installed on spigot too

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:17 PM

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same jar?

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:17 PM

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different

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https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/bukkit-plugins/simple-voice-chat/files/all

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:18 PM

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where's the source

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I thought all curseforge jars had to have source provided

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:19 PM

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https://github.com/henkelmax/simple-voice-chat

GitHub

GitHub - henkelmax/simple-voice-chat: A working voice chat in Minec...

A working voice chat in Minecraft! Contribute to henkelmax/simple-voice-chat development by creating an account on GitHub.

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open your eyes pig

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:19 PM

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oh

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:19 PM

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buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:19 PM

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ye

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supporst papi

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:20 PM

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good guys

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To me it looks like this is at least 10 times better than that minecord thing

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:20 PM

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shit maybe should make fabric a main focus for papi 3

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:20 PM

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buoyant haven I thought all curseforge jars had to have source provided

🤔 wait what

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:21 PM

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kinda tempted to get rid of nukkit

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:21 PM

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^ +1

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:21 PM

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I don't know anyone who uses nukkit

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:21 PM

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buoyant haven shit maybe should make fabric a main focus for papi 3

you mean "should focus on papi 3"

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:21 PM

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yes

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:21 PM

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ngl fabric is dope

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couldnt made a mod when I tried but hey

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:21 PM

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I think glare looked into fabric for papi 3

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and I have a feeling it wasn't viable at all

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:21 PM

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buoyant haven and I have a feeling it wasn't viable at all

how come?

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:22 PM

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probably not worth

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:22 PM

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correct me if I'm wrong

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but I don't believe fabric actually has an api?

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to interact with the game

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:22 PM

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yea

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:22 PM

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I have a feeling it's just a mod loader

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:22 PM

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you use game internals from what I know

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:22 PM

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yeah

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:22 PM

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but there's a fabric api jar thing that mods always use

I don't develop with fabric so idk if that's what you're looking for

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I'm not sure

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:23 PM

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forge on the other hand though... I think that's possible?

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:23 PM

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it probably provides some stuff, but is not like spigot

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:23 PM

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idk I have very little experience with these apis, I'd need to look into them

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:23 PM

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slow imp it probably provides some stuff, but is not like spigot

oh

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:23 PM

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lets get it done first, pig

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spigot, proxy and then the others

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:23 PM

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get the spigot part done first 🥴

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:23 PM

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gaby I need to rewrite like the whole thing anyway so it's readable for everyone whose name isn't PiggyPiglet

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:23 PM

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that's also true

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:23 PM

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idk how I'm gonna do that

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because I'm not just pulling complexity out of no where

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:24 PM

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for materials can we not use something like Material.valueOf("Materialname") instead of constants?

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:24 PM

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it uses constants for consistency

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:24 PM

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wait gaby do you also have papi3 source

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:24 PM

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yes

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:25 PM

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ic

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:25 PM

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material names change over versions, with constants, you get the same name on every version despite the input

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:25 PM

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alr

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:25 PM

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but

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:25 PM

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hmm

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:25 PM

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yes we can probably find a way to get rid of the 9 enums or whatever

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:25 PM

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but aren't sponge materials generated dynamic?

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:25 PM

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can't remember hoenstly

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:25 PM

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like, mods inject their own materials

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:25 PM

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dkim lots of people have access to the source

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:26 PM

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buoyant haven material names change over versions, with constants, you get the same name on ev...

there's like XMaterial

But if you're looking for sponge/etc compatibility then maybe you should not use it

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:26 PM

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to the ✨ source ✨

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:26 PM

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yeah we're not using xmaterial

#

#

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:26 PM

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o

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:26 PM

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ur missing out dkim

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:27 PM

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Pig, I don't think we should bother with support for all versions

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:27 PM

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😔

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:27 PM

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the whole gang is in there

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:27 PM

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Like, if the name of a material is different in 1.12 and 1.13, the end user should handle that imo

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:27 PM

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oh also seeing helpchat-jenkins reminded me of a question

What's the point of jenkins if github actions already exists and can publish artifacts?

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:27 PM

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some people might prefer jenkins over github?

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whether that's us

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couldn't tell you

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:28 PM

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github artifacts are available only to registerd users

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:28 PM

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but what's the difference?
Or maybe I don't know what jenkins fully does since all I see it as is something that builds the jar and provides it to the public

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:28 PM

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slow imp github artifacts are available only to registerd users

oh

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did not know that

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:28 PM

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jenkins is just better imo shrug_animated

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:28 PM

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github artifacts, is that the mvn repo thing?

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:28 PM

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nononono

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nonono

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noo

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:28 PM

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that's packages

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Actions, Pig

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:28 PM

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y u calling it artifacts then

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:28 PM

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or .github/workflows

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I think he's talking about the archive generated by the task

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:29 PM

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buoyant haven y u calling it artifacts then

https://github.com/dkim19375/Bedwars/actions/runs/2605441075

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:29 PM

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I mean github packages is just as stupid

empty matrix Jul 4, 2022, 1:29 PM

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thats what i meant

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at the bottom

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:29 PM

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buoyant haven I mean github packages is just as stupid

pretty sad tbh

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:29 PM

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opportunity to make something great

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:29 PM

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that's the default name I believe, dkim

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:29 PM

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and they willingly stop 99% of people from using it by making public packages require auth

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:29 PM

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      - uses: actions/upload-artifact@v2
        with:
          name: Package # this
          path: build/libs```

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:30 PM

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20/10 thinking

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:30 PM

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yup, amazing ik

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:30 PM

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idk dkim

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I've used jenkins for a really long time

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I don't have any need to use github's version when jenkins does exactly what I need it to do

stone dome Jul 4, 2022, 1:30 PM

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I use circleci lol

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:30 PM

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and everyone agrees you're weird

stone dome Jul 4, 2022, 1:31 PM

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Lol

buoyant haven Jul 4, 2022, 1:31 PM

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you're one of those outliers

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those using circleci and travisci

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who even

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:32 PM

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public static final DefaultedRegistryReference<ItemType> ZOMBIFIED_PIGLIN_SPAWN_EGG = ItemTypes.key(ResourceKey.minecraft("zombified_piglin_spawn_egg"));
That's how sponge does it, Pig

stone dome Jul 4, 2022, 1:32 PM

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buoyant haven those using circleci and travisci

Nah TravisCI is worse

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The terms are shady

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:33 PM

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I believe some use those services because they are free / cheap, while jenkins needs to be hosted

stone dome Jul 4, 2022, 1:33 PM

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Yeah I’m poor

slow imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:33 PM

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luckily there's codemc's jenkins for mc projects

cunning abyss Jul 4, 2022, 1:42 PM

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Yo guys

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Any help with this big timing?

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https://timings.aikar.co/?id=7ee9737e87994b4389195758cfe2e534#timings

Aikar's Timings Viewer

Aikar's Timings Viewer - View Timings v2 reports from Paper and Sponge

copper trench Jul 4, 2022, 4:12 PM

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So I'm using luckperms chat and for the life of me can't get deluxetags to work. I've replaced all of the % with {} like suggested and still nothing.

dusky forge Jul 4, 2022, 4:20 PM

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replacing the percent signs is special to essentials chat last time i checked, but not luckperms chat

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lpc has papi support so i dont see why youd do that

cunning abyss Jul 5, 2022, 1:10 PM

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https://imgur.com/fhx0WjR

Imgur

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What's wrong guys?

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 1:10 PM

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cunning abyss What's wrong guys?

your server ran out of memory... weird how it just suddenly runs out though

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how much memory did you allocate to the server?

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 1:12 PM

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Out of memory

cunning abyss Jul 5, 2022, 1:19 PM

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empty matrix how much memory did you allocate to the server?

It's a bungee server

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and i allocated it 512m because a bunch of guys just told me not to give it more then that if i have less then 500 players

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 1:19 PM

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cunning abyss It's a bungee server

oh

cunning abyss Jul 5, 2022, 1:19 PM

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It was strange but i tred it

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velocity jar

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 1:19 PM

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how many players?

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about

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try like 1gb

cunning abyss Jul 5, 2022, 1:21 PM

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i allocated it 2gb now

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with around 70 players average

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 1:21 PM

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alr

fading turtle Jul 5, 2022, 2:49 PM

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We have 2gb for our bungee server

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 3:25 PM

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cunning abyss and i allocated it 512m because a bunch of guys just told me not to give it more...

nothing bad with having over 512mb
They probably meant that if you don't have a lot of memory and are in like a budget host

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that you don't need to allocate 2gb

but iirc the only downside of having a lot of memory allocated is that the garbage collector (which frees up memory) could create lag spikes if there's a lot of memory to look through/free up (which is why you don't really want like a 50gb memory server)

forest gazelle Jul 5, 2022, 4:53 PM

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empty matrix that you don't *need* to allocate 2gb but iirc the only downside of having a lo...

i think the G1GC garbage collector actually performs better with more memory and avoids the lag spikes other gc's have issue with

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according to what i remember from reading some of Aikar's content anyways

steep dove Jul 5, 2022, 5:14 PM

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Have you installed like geyser on velocity because it's eat much resources?

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:32 PM

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ok so im trying to make a server for me and my friends i have downloaded the jar file but the computer does not want to read it as a jar even though the extension is .jar and i have made sure i can see file name extensions

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any idea why this is happening?

forest gazelle Jul 5, 2022, 5:36 PM

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do you have java installed

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:37 PM

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drifting thistle ok so im trying to make a server for me and my friends i have downloaded the jar...

You have to have java installed
assuming you're on Windows, here's the download link: https://github.com/adoptium/temurin17-binaries/releases/download/jdk-17.0.3%2B7/OpenJDK17U-jdk_x64_windows_hotspot_17.0.3_7.msi

Also in the installer, make sure to enable the option that says something about JAVA_HOME :)

thin orbit Jul 5, 2022, 5:37 PM

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forest gazelle i think the G1GC garbage collector actually performs better with more memory and...

ZGC moment

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minimal stop-the-world time

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:38 PM

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empty matrix You have to have java installed assuming you're on Windows, here's the download ...

i just installed java but ill try again and make sure java_home is enabled

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:38 PM

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drifting thistle i just installed java but ill try again and make sure java_home is enabled

well you don't have to install it again

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there's another app

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to fix it

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:38 PM

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ok

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:39 PM

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drifting thistle ok

https://johann.loefflmann.net/downloads/jarfix.exe

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:40 PM

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still doing the same thing

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:41 PM

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empty matrix You have to have java installed assuming you're on Windows, here's the download ...

what is adoptium the link lead me to a download for that

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:41 PM

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drifting thistle what is adoptium the link lead me to a download for that

An organization that distributes java made by OpenJDK

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:42 PM

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ill try install it with that cus i just used default java before

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:42 PM

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drifting thistle ill try install it with that cus i just used default java before

okay

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:43 PM

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no still the same

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:44 PM

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try jarfix now

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:44 PM

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yeah did that

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:44 PM

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and you installed the one I sent you?

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:44 PM

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yeah

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:44 PM

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can you press the windows key, search cmd and open command prompt?
Then type java -version

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:45 PM

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openjdk version "17.0.3" 2022-04-19
OpenJDK Runtime Environment Temurin-17.0.3+7 (build 17.0.3+7)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Temurin-17.0.3+7 (build 17.0.3+7, mixed mode, sharing)

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:45 PM

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🤔

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in File explorer

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at the top, press View -> Enable file extensions

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:46 PM

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yeah i did that

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:46 PM

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and it's a .jar file?

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:46 PM

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yeah

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:46 PM

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try double clicking it

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:46 PM

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i can send ss

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opens a folder

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:46 PM

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and see if it allows you to run jdk 17 with it

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:46 PM

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drifting thistle opens a folder

wat

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:46 PM

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with meta inf

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net

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:46 PM

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oh are you opening it with winzip

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or something like that

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:46 PM

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no

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wdym

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:47 PM

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can u send screenshot?

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:47 PM

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i extracted with 7zip

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:47 PM

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?imgur

umbral lanceBOT Jul 5, 2022, 5:47 PM

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FAQ Answer:

You won't be able to upload images here directly to avoid spam, so please use https://imgur.com/upload to upload images/screenshots.
You can also use a screenshot service like gyazo or jinx and post those links here.

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:47 PM

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drifting thistle i extracted with 7zip

Oh

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don't extract 🥲 but yea meta inf is in jar files

#

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that seems like a folder

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though

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keep it in its original jar file

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:48 PM

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it comes a zip tho

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:49 PM

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drifting thistle it comes a zip tho

a zip or a jar

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don't unzip it though

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:49 PM

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so leave it a zip file

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:49 PM

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yes

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:50 PM

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how does batch file read this

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do i have to change .jar to .zip

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:51 PM

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nono

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java automatically unzips it

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:51 PM

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i doesnt tho

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ill send ss

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:51 PM

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rename it back to server.jar

drifting thistle Jul 5, 2022, 5:52 PM

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🙏

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thanks man

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👍

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 5:53 PM

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np

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👍

inland forge Jul 5, 2022, 6:08 PM

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yo, is somehow possible to bruteforce seeds to get worlds that have chosen biomes in chosen radius?

forest gazelle Jul 5, 2022, 6:09 PM

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yeah

inland forge Jul 5, 2022, 6:10 PM

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how? hi ivan btw 👋

forest gazelle Jul 5, 2022, 6:28 PM

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hi 😎

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not sure about the actual software but i've definitely heard people do that kind of stuff

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hermitcraft does it i think

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 6:29 PM

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theres websites to find biomes online

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so it's 100% possible

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(to retrieve the biomes)

inland forge Jul 5, 2022, 8:32 PM

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empty matrix (to retrieve the biomes)

oh yeah, like here https://www.chunkbase.com/apps/biome-finder#2516684533301590315
any idea how it works?

empty matrix Jul 5, 2022, 8:50 PM

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inland forge oh yeah, like here https://www.chunkbase.com/apps/biome-finder#25166845333015903...

https://github.com/toolbox4minecraft/amidst

GitHub

GitHub - toolbox4minecraft/amidst: Advanced Minecraft Interface and...

Advanced Minecraft Interface and Data/Structure Tracking - GitHub - toolbox4minecraft/amidst: Advanced Minecraft Interface and Data/Structure Tracking

inland forge Jul 5, 2022, 9:23 PM

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thx dkim :*

worn epoch Jul 5, 2022, 9:23 PM

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Would anyone happen to know why my texture pack I'm trying to edit easily (so it's not zipped but just a folder) doesn't work but when zipped it does work?

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Seems to be that the opposite way round is the only problem people experience so thought I'd just mention it in a Minecraft discord and see if anyone would know anything.

worn epoch Jul 5, 2022, 11:39 PM

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Thanks anyway to anyone, I realised the issue.

calm cloak Jul 6, 2022, 4:25 AM

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https://twitter.com/MCMarket_org/status/1544537824837648384 pog

MC-Market (@MCMarket_org)

Have you seen that PlaceholderAPI is live on MC-Market? Our friends over at HelpChat are now publishing on our platform, check it out: https://t.co/7t8fe6ulsE

drifting thistle Jul 6, 2022, 10:58 AM

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🐰

west flame Jul 6, 2022, 12:09 PM

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calm cloak https://twitter.com/MCMarket_org/status/1544537824837648384 <:pog:95000521707476...

You need to make the discord not require account linking 😉

stuck orbit Jul 6, 2022, 12:09 PM

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Your Spigot account has been linked successfully!"....where i can ask help for "VoteParty"?

west flame Jul 6, 2022, 12:10 PM

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stuck orbit Your Spigot account has been linked successfully!"....where i can ask help for "...

Stop spamming. Ask in 1 channel and be patient for a response.

calm cloak Jul 6, 2022, 12:10 PM

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just link!

west flame Jul 6, 2022, 12:11 PM

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Bring back the normal chat!

woeful tree Jul 6, 2022, 12:39 PM

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calm cloak just link!

Hey Mick- is Supreme discounted for those who have already purchased Premium?

calm cloak Jul 6, 2022, 1:03 PM

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woeful tree Hey Mick- is Supreme discounted for those who have already purchased Premium?

Certainly is. Premium is $10, Supreme is $25, but Premium to Supreme is $15

woeful tree Jul 6, 2022, 1:03 PM

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calm cloak Certainly is. Premium is $10, Supreme is $25, but Premium to Supreme is $15

Ah, okay. Just wasn't clear on the page when I was logged in. 😄

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Just said $15 with no message stating it was discounted.

calm cloak Jul 6, 2022, 1:04 PM

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@serene lotus when are we doing that giveaway to celebrate blobnervouspleading

serene lotus Jul 6, 2022, 1:08 PM

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calm cloak <@161022752923320320> when are we doing that giveaway to celebrate <:blobnervous...

Now that it's approved slide into my dms and we'll chat out the deets

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 1:35 PM

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Yo guys!

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Any help with this timings?

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https://timings.aikar.co/?id=e397056c3e344b479bec27683044e549

Aikar's Timings Viewer

Aikar's Timings Viewer - View Timings v2 reports from Paper and Sponge

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They're massive, it will take a bit to load

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What can i do to fix the lag?

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 1:51 PM

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nametagedit is taking quite a bit now, not sure why

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honestly, one thing you can do is seperating your worlds into other servers

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 1:55 PM

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misty root honestly, one thing you can do is seperating your worlds into other servers

I should connect every plugin

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with each other

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it would be impossible

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 1:55 PM

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except that you dont need every plugin

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 1:56 PM

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What about inventories

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 1:56 PM

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thats semi easy

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i think there are plugins that do it already

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 1:56 PM

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I'm using skript for example

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This would be impossible on my server

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Cool but impossible

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 1:57 PM

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its kinda necessary though sadly

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if you want to go over 100 people

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 1:57 PM

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Mh

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How can i do with skript data?

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I think that's impossible to sync with multiple servers

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 1:57 PM

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by not using skript

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or move it to a database?

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not sure if skript supports sql

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 1:58 PM

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idk if i can

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it would be quite hard honestly

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 1:58 PM

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it is kinda impossible though sadly to get 100+ people on a server with most mechanics intact

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big servers do it through instancing

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where they create and destroy instances as needed

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so its always a multi server setup

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in your timings, most work is going to just normal minecraft operations

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with nametagedit being the exception

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:00 PM

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is it taking a lot?

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:00 PM

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10%+

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:00 PM

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bruh

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that's a lot

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so i should create a database for every plugin

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and use that database

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:03 PM

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moving your worlds to other servers is the simplest solution

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:03 PM

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What's the hardest?

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:03 PM

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what databases do you need?

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permissions maybe? but that should be simple if you are using a good permissions plugin

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:04 PM

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i suppose all the plugins that i need on every world?

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:04 PM

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misty root permissions maybe? but that should be simple if you are using a good permissions...

already have permissions on database

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:04 PM

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yeah but most wont be holding data

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:04 PM

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synced between all the servers

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:04 PM

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misty root yeah but most wont be holding data

i see

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:04 PM

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only the ones that hold player specific data

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need to have a shared database

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rest can just be added to all servers

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with same settings

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(or even less) since you wont need a mining plugin on a lobby world

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for example

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:05 PM

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And then i should make all the rtp system

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all the teleport between server teleport

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etc

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:05 PM

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yeah, if you do it well

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:05 PM

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how much does making something like this could save performance?

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:06 PM

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nothing much changes for the user

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hypixel skyblock for example is completely instance based

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:06 PM

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i know i know

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but they're on 1.8, so much well optimized

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:06 PM

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1.8 brings more pains than it helps honestly

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with all the exploits and crashes it has

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unless you are running a fully custom one for your server that is

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:07 PM

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I'm pretty sure hypixels devs could solve most of the problems xD

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:07 PM

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and i think they are running on 1.7 not 1.8

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with a protocol layer on top

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:07 PM

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misty root and i think they are running on 1.7 not 1.8

i heard 1.8

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i'm not sure

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so how can i sync chat

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or tab

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etc

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:08 PM

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cunning abyss so how can i sync chat

there are plugins for syncing chat across proxies

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tab is the same, there are plugins for it

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that are installed on the proxy usually

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:09 PM

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cunning abyss how much does making something like this could save performance?

?

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:09 PM

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cunning abyss how much does making something like this could save performance?

it doesnt save performance

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it just moves the load from one thread

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to multiple

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so it would free up all the usage from your lobby etc worlds

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to your survival

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:09 PM

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and how much players could the whole "survival" server handle?

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:10 PM

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around the same as right now

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so if you have like 80 over 3 servers

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survival can take around 70 80 alone most likely

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but you would have however many you can have on lobby etc so

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:10 PM

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so like 200 players?

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:10 PM

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would increase your cap a bit

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:11 PM

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cunning abyss so like 200 players?

it depends on your hardware, but thats assuming your players are evenly spread out

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on your worlds

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they will most likely be concentrated on one server most of the time

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:11 PM

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yeah

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on the survival one

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so just the survival could handle 80 players?

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without lobby etc

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:12 PM

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so you are realistically gaining around 20 30 players basically

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:12 PM

#

i have a
AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:12 PM

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there are some experimental ways to spread worlds into multiple servers as well

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but they arent exactly production ready

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:13 PM

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so i should make all this system that could break everything just for 20 players? xD

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:13 PM

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ideally you want instancing

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:13 PM

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yeah wait, i didn't count the fact that the server wouldn't lag

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i mean

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:13 PM

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like a world per person

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like skyblock etc

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:13 PM

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a world per person?

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:13 PM

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yeah

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that allows for you to instance as many as you need

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:13 PM

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how?

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yeah but i mean

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players wouldn't be able to play togheter

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:14 PM

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you allow them to visit with commands etc

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afterwards

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and hook up the chats etc together

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or you could seperate your survival world into multiple

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:15 PM

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so like survival overworld in a server

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:15 PM

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teleport people to another server if they pass a coordinate

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:15 PM

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survival nether in another one

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:15 PM

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nah

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:15 PM

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oh i see what you mean

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:15 PM

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like x> 0

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in a server

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:15 PM

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like separting the world in different section

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:15 PM

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x<0 in a server

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yes

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:15 PM

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But how?

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ahahah

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:15 PM

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plugins

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:15 PM

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I know a server that does that

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:15 PM

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making that easy but

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making it seemless for a player

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is not really easy at all

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:16 PM

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no i know

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i think it's pretty hard

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:16 PM

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if its just a

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loading screen once they move a bit

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then thats quite basic

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once you hook up the databases

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but if you want people to see each other

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across servers

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on server borders

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then thats a bit more complex

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:17 PM

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so if i build behind a border

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the people on the other side will not see it

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:17 PM

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there are extremely experimental ways

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:17 PM

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and i would need a brand new world for doing this system right?

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:17 PM

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to make them see it

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using packets sent from the servers basically

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:18 PM

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yeah i got what you mean

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:18 PM

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but its extremely iffy and crash prone

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for players

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:18 PM

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Idk this is quite hard to create

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:18 PM

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welcome to minecraft server ownership

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KEKW

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:18 PM

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Yeah bruh

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ahahaha

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:18 PM

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the server software is not made for a lot of players

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its for 100 tops

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afterwards its hell

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:19 PM

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i mean

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i don't think my server could handle 100 players right now

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See the stats in the timings when we had 70 players

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:19 PM

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with a lot of optimizations

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it probably could

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:19 PM

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the tps was not that encouraging

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Like optimizing what?

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I don 't want to break survival mechanics

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:c

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:19 PM

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mob amounts chunk view distances

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yeah then no

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your only bets are fixing nametagplus

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and seperating your server into multiple

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:27 PM

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mh

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i'm trying to understand how to do something like this

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But it's to big for my experience

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:29 PM

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cunning abyss i'm trying to understand how to do something like this

try to seperate your lobby first it should be the easiest since it doesnt really require most plugins most likely

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:31 PM

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But for example

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You mean separting nether and overworld too?

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:35 PM

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yeah ideally

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you could just do 2 servers for now

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since i doubt lobby + rest will take too much computing power

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so 1 server for only survival

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and 1 for rest

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:38 PM

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Wait what you mean

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with only survival

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:39 PM

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server 1:
survival world only
server2:
nether
end
lobby
resources

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:39 PM

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mh

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and for example

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if a player create a nether portal in survival server

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and do i handle the sending to the other server, the creation of the random portal etc

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:39 PM

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send them to server 2 and teleport to the portal

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yes

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:39 PM

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and viceversa

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:40 PM

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exactly yeah

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:40 PM

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but how does the creation of the portal works?^

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The small things are the one that worry me

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:40 PM

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its 8 blocks per block in overworld

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i think?

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:40 PM

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So i should make a custom plugin for that

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:40 PM

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it should be on a wiki

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https://nethercalculator.com/

Nether Calculator

A calculator to figure out the coordinate for your netherhub.

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found a calculator

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after a quick google

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:41 PM

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yeah but i mean

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how should i create that system

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:41 PM

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its 8 yes

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you take their coordinates

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divide it by 8

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spawn a portal there and teleport

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 2:43 PM

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i'll have to talk to my dev

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and ask him help KEKW

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 2:43 PM

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probably a good idea

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if you just want to seperate worlds into different servers

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its really not that difficult

cunning abyss Jul 6, 2022, 3:06 PM

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Isn't it?

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Any good guide how to do that?

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I' quite sure there's none, but maybe i'm wrong

misty root Jul 6, 2022, 3:13 PM

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would need a list of your plugins, but for hooking inventory and tablist etc

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there are plugins that are already made

pearl needle Jul 6, 2022, 4:51 PM

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Does anyone here know how to elevate the Y axis of an item texture?

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Specifically; when I place the custom item down onto a frame, having be levitating above the frame as opposed to within it

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Also does anyone know how to change the texture size of the item (if possible without directly changing the size of the image)

fading anchor Jul 6, 2022, 5:05 PM

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Does anybody know how I can change block data using worldedit? Bought a 500x500 schematic and fences etc aren't connected.

amber raptor Jul 6, 2022, 7:06 PM

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im trying to update a 1.17 server to 1.18. how do i set the height limit? i don't want it to go to -64 because thats below bedrock

chilly flax Jul 6, 2022, 8:06 PM

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pearl needle Specifically; when I place the custom item down onto a frame, having be levitati...

You can change that in blockbench under the display tab

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Select item frame and you can move it around and scale it etc

brazen mango Jul 6, 2022, 9:50 PM

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fading anchor Does anybody know how I can change block data using worldedit? Bought a 500x500 ...

i don't really have a proper answer for you but does updating the fences make them connect? might give some ideas

tranquil flare Jul 7, 2022, 3:27 AM

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Hi guys

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how do i unlock the showcase channel

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?

sacred sundial Jul 7, 2022, 3:29 AM

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yo

cunning abyss Jul 7, 2022, 12:11 PM

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Yo guys

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My server is stable at 20 tps with 70 players on

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But spawn chunk won't load

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https://imgur.com/FVIxfrN

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And the server is not lagging

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Why is that?

timid plover Jul 7, 2022, 1:38 PM

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MultiMC question. Is there a way to update an instance's version? I have an instance that's made for 1.18.2 and I was wondering if I Could update it to 1.19 somehow.

neon jacinth Jul 7, 2022, 1:46 PM

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cunning abyss But spawn chunk won't load

paper.yml has something about chunk radius

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Max chunk sends iirc

cunning abyss Jul 7, 2022, 1:56 PM

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is that why?