minecraft

[drifting thistle]

also falcun/cb are recoded a lot

[thin orbit]

it's literally in the name lol. Client mods

[little kelp]

Proof of 95%

[thin orbit]

uh I presume they left most of the minecraft source code cause you kinda need that? and just added a few things

I mean I dunno, are any of them open source?

[little kelp]

Are you sure that is exactly 95%?

[thin orbit]

i'm 95% sure

[drifting thistle]

servers just share similar code to minecraft

[little kelp]

Wrong

[thin orbit]

yikes the 5%

[drifting thistle]

aside from that & using minecraft to connect to servers mojang has limited power

[little kelp]

Mojang is all-powerful

[thin orbit]

aside from Microsoft's team of lawyers lmao

[drifting thistle]

they dont do that stuff

anyways

[forest gazelle]

vision did you ever find out what cpu your server is using

[little kelp]

not enough

[drifting thistle]

let me double check

my dev will tell me when hes online

[forest gazelle]

alright

[little kelp]

Shouldn't you know that type of stuff about your server?

[forest gazelle]

oh vision i had a spectacular idea

[drifting thistle]

I know most of the specs

[forest gazelle]

instead of offloading your gc to an sql server, make it run on the gpu

[little kelp]

Name 1

[forest gazelle]

👌👌

[drifting thistle]

are there benefits?

[little kelp]

Depends on your insurance

[drifting thistle]

RAM

[forest gazelle]

if you can actually get a gc to work on the gpu there are loads of benefits

[little kelp]

What...

[drifting thistle]

Memory

[little kelp]

What about it

[forest gazelle]

working on the gpu essentially means it's massively parralelized

[drifting thistle]

to power the servers tasks

[little kelp]

What does?

[forest gazelle]

power server tasks?

[drifting thistle]

If I get the GC to run on the GPU would it be more lightweight/efficient?

[forest gazelle]

probably neither

[drifting thistle]

Memory

[little kelp]

Most likely anything would be better than an SQL gc though

[forest gazelle]

^

[little kelp]

Are you sure?

Memory shouldn't power anything if I am not mistaken

Do you know what RAM stands for?

[forest gazelle]

running a gc on the gpu will give you much better results than on a remote server

[drifting thistle]

Only thing is I want to see the tasks of the GC on a nice interface

[forest gazelle]

... why

[drifting thistle]

so I can know what its doing incase it ever eats up ram

[forest gazelle]

what

[little kelp]

Really? That's your focus?

Can you dm me your server website?

[forest gazelle]

vision i thought we've been through what the gc does

[drifting thistle]

dont have one currently

anymore

[little kelp]

Got garbage collected?

[forest gazelle]

suggesting you want to have a ui for the gc is akin to wanting a ui for every driver that runs on your server

it's pointless and a waste of energy

[little kelp]

Vision do you use light mode discord?

[empty matrix]

you don't have a gc?

[little kelp]

Website

[forest gazelle]

how about this

get rid of your gc altogether

[empty matrix]

what

[little kelp]

Just get infinite memory

[forest gazelle]

then buy a petabyte of ram and never reuse old ram

[little kelp]

No more need for gc

[empty matrix]

lmaoo

[forest gazelle]

restart whenever you're running low

[drifting thistle]

How much does a petabyte of ram cost

[little kelp]

$2

[forest gazelle]

it's not about how much it costs

[empty matrix]

you're kidding.

[forest gazelle]

you physically cannot fit 2pb of ram into any server on the planet

[drifting thistle]

Im not sure if I'd disable the gc but may as well see anyways

[forest gazelle]

it'd take hundreds of racks

[little kelp]

That's what the moon is for

[empty matrix]

no

its a
j
o
k
e

[drifting thistle]

pretty sure it would eat up more ram without the gc

[forest gazelle]

yes

[empty matrix]

yes

[forest gazelle]

thats the joke

[empty matrix]

so don't

[forest gazelle]

🥲

[drifting thistle]

due to the zgc

[empty matrix]

it's a joke

dont actually do it

[drifting thistle]

would enable if the gc disables

[empty matrix]

lol

[forest gazelle]

vision

[little kelp]

What?

[forest gazelle]

the zgc is the gc

they are the same thing

[empty matrix]

🥲

[forest gazelle]

zgc is one type of gc you can use

[drifting thistle]

I mean the zgc that consumes a lot of ram

[empty matrix]

gtg, vision, don't do anything stupid, for your own sake, please, listen to ivan, bye

[drifting thistle]

cya

[little kelp]

Quick Ivan tell Vision to paypal me $1,000

[empty matrix]

also ivan might want to say /s explicitly sometimes to be on the safe side

[forest gazelle]

quick vision steal 1k from master's paypal

anyways

[little kelp]

Ha you can't, I don't have paypal

[forest gazelle]

you really shouldn't focus on improving the gc itself

the most you should be doing is optimizing the flags

[little kelp]

I really want to see the code that causes the server to use so much memory

[forest gazelle]

anything more is an enormous waste of time

[drifting thistle]

the dev just finished the new optimization update for the jar

it had some improvements but theres room for improvement

[forest gazelle]

any specific improvements you'd care to share

did he remove mob ai

[little kelp]

Vision are you actually being serious?

[drifting thistle]

yeah

[little kelp]

Is Masked your dev?

[drifting thistle]

Masked?

[little kelp]

Yes

[drifting thistle]

whos Masked?

[little kelp]

Your developer

[forest gazelle]

vision would you ever invite your dev to this discord

just for a... friendly chat

[drifting thistle]

I mean I could see, idk if he'd join though

[forest gazelle]

i'd love to see if he shares the same opinions as you regarding gcs and sql servers and all of that

[drifting thistle]

hes a pretty good developer, he worked for a lot of big networks in the past

[little kelp]

We know

[forest gazelle]

did you run your sql gc idea by him

and if so, what did he say about it

[little kelp]

Vision what do you think SQL is?

[drifting thistle]

I only told him I wanted to optimize the GC so far

a database language

[forest gazelle]

okay but you havent mentioned sql yet

good

[drifting thistle]

I can let him know

if its viable

[forest gazelle]

do so at your own risk

[little kelp]

It is not

[forest gazelle]

i dont know in what regards he holds you right now but

this will probably not help

[drifting thistle]

why

[forest gazelle]

because anybody who knows what sql is and what it is used for can immediately see what a silly idea it is

if he's a developer i imagine he can see that

[drifting thistle]

TCPShield does the same thing

[forest gazelle]

...?

[drifting thistle]

sort of

[forest gazelle]

tcp shield is a proxy that protects you from ddos attacks

you are suggesting an sql based GC

there are exactly 0 similarities lol

[drifting thistle]

they do a similar thing to this proposition though

[neat hazel]

vision

[forest gazelle]

how do you figure that

[neat hazel]

why did you choose 1.7 over 1.8

YI

YO

I EVOLVED

[drifting thistle]

1.7 Combat & also all our assets are 1.7 coded

as well as any licensed software acquired from other servers

[forest gazelle]

i am very curious about the similarities you see between your idea and tcpshield

i guess... they both use internet protocols?

thats all i see

[drifting thistle]

Its similar to the ZGC except if both of them optimized significantly and had a better UI interface

which is more secure

[forest gazelle]

you're saying they're both similar in that neither has a good enough UI for your tastes

[drifting thistle]

generally

[forest gazelle]

and that's why you decided to mention tcpshield to me

because of the UI

[neat hazel]

nobody is gonna congratulate me for my evolution? 😔

[forest gazelle]

CONGRATS

[neat hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/daceegee-dacg-dababy-less-go-gif-20851407

[forest gazelle]

you are now an alolan Remence

[drifting thistle]

tpsshield is just similarly structured

also gg

[neat hazel]

ty ivan

& vision ❤️

[forest gazelle]

how is tcpshield similarly structured

🤔

[neat hazel]

k that was weird I'll never ask for praise ever again

gn

[drifting thistle]

Or if you consider internet port forwarding

[forest gazelle]

you're saying they're similar in that they both require you to port forward

i mean yes - they do both use the internet

[drifting thistle]

that and their UI

[forest gazelle]

vision

i hate to be the bearer of bad news

but just because the UIs for two applications are similar

does not mean those applications are similar

how about I take some time to explain what SQL servers do, and how your server can actually benefit from them

all SQL servers (and any databases really) do

is store information

in a very efficient way

this means that lots of clients from lots of places can access this information at the same time, while adding / removing / modifying information is also still relatively fast

and this also means that you can deal with very large amounts of information much more easily

[drifting thistle]

like the tasks from the gc?

the zgc*?

[forest gazelle]

alright let me rephrase a little bit

when I say "information"

i mean useful, valuable information that you want to persist

aka - player UUIDs

world files

statistics

anything that you would want to hold onto for an extended period of time

gc tasks are extremely shortlived

so much so that there's no point storing them anywhere

they just stay in the memory of the host machine

in other words, it is useless to store any information about the "gc tasks" as you put it in an SQL database

because you'll need to get access to that information again faster than the sql server can send it to you

to put it into perspective

sending / retrieving information to an SQL server takes time in the order of miliseconds

but GC tasks persist for maybe microseconds

aka, 1000 times shorter than the time for the SQL server to even receive the data

[drifting thistle]

But what if you make it so the SQL database is modified to have more systems/tasks than just storing data, where it can transfer around or utilizebrb Ill be back in 1-2 min

[little kelp]

That s not what sql is for

SQL is for storing data, not tasks

[forest gazelle]

sql servers are databases

[little kelp]

How would using sql even improve anything?

[forest gazelle]

data bases

they serve as a base
for data

[drifting thistle]

-to utilize it to do various things

[little kelp]

It’s like telling a file cabinet to clean out your google drive

[forest gazelle]

if you want to actually run code

you do not want to use a database

[drifting thistle]

then perhaps I should create my own fork of SQL, (i.e doomSQL, name doesn't matter much) which can do these things

[forest gazelle]

or... hear me out

[little kelp]

This is 100% what you should do

[forest gazelle]

you can make a separate server program to do whatever you want to do

[little kelp]

Vision where did you learn about sql that would make you know more than Ivan?

[drifting thistle]

I don't know more than Ivan

I know less

[little kelp]

Like why ask questions if you don’t listen to the answer?

[forest gazelle]

it's fine

[little kelp]

Lol easy xp

[forest gazelle]

i think i can sort of understand the thought process

but basically, vision

if you try to turn an SQL database into a server that also runs code and deals with requests and the like

you're punching a brick wall

[drifting thistle]

yeah

[forest gazelle]

there is zero reason to do that - it's a hundred times easier (and better in every respect) to make a separate software

let SQL do what it does best

[drifting thistle]

yeah*

[forest gazelle]

okay

now let's review a little bit

what does a GC do

i think i talked a bit about this a few days ago here

do you remember 😔

[drifting thistle]

I think I remember what the G1GC does

not the rest though

[forest gazelle]

alright

well first off every gc does essentially the same thing

[drifting thistle]

aside from the zgc right

[forest gazelle]

the zgc included

every gc has the exact same job

[drifting thistle]

alright

[forest gazelle]

do you have any guesses as to what that job might be

[drifting thistle]

to collect RAM/memory

[forest gazelle]

alright, sounds good so far

now what exactly does "collecting" ram mean?

[drifting thistle]

I think of it kind of like a server console but for the back end machine where its doing JVM arguments for other things

sort of

[forest gazelle]

where its doing JVM arguments for other things
okay so

that was a very creative string of words

but not what i was looking for lol

the GC's main job is to find unused memory

that's it

or more specifically - used then discarded memory

the GC finds memory that was used by a java program, but then forgotten about

and it gives that memory back to the java program to keep using

does that make sense?

or no 🥲

[drifting thistle]

which kind of gc

[forest gazelle]

every kind of GC

like I said, every GC has the exact same job

and they are interchangeable

the only practical difference between the various types of GC is their speed / efficiency

but they accomplish the same thing

[drifting thistle]

is it because of the codebase they use

[forest gazelle]

no

[drifting thistle]

zgc uses a different language which is why its slower

[forest gazelle]

is that true?

well it shouldn't matter either way

[drifting thistle]

yeah

I think

[forest gazelle]

seems a little bit suspicious but i can't confirm or deny it

either way though

[drifting thistle]

sql is the fastest language

[forest gazelle]

okay hold on

[drifting thistle]

alright

[forest gazelle]

let's focus on one disaster at a time

because that was blatantly not true

forget about the different GCs for now

just remember that they all do the same job

so the only time you would consider using one over the other is for extra speed

anyways do you understand what the GC actually does now

it frees memory that was thrown away by the java program, and gives it back to be reused

hence the name "garbage collector"

because it collects the garbage memory

[drifting thistle]

yeah and that changes the tps rate because of the CPUs clockspeed right

[forest gazelle]

okay... technically yes

but don't jump to conclusions

the only reason that I say yes

is because the GC is just a program that takes time to complete it's task

and sadly while it is doing what it needs to do, the actual java program has to wait

[drifting thistle]

can I add that to my jar?

[forest gazelle]

though this changes slightly based on the GC but that's not important right now

add what?

[drifting thistle]

like as a module

[forest gazelle]

...?

you want to add the GC as a module?

that makes no sense

[drifting thistle]

not the GC itself

but because the tps rate is affected by the gc and the cpus clockspeed

maybe there could be a configurable module to improve that system

similar to the TPS locker system which is being improved currently

TPS locker does something different where it goes against the CPUs requests basically but its kind of similar

[forest gazelle]

okay vision you were sort of level headed for a bit while we were talking about the GC

but i can see i've lost you

let's see if i can make an analogy you can agree with

first: time is very important - can we agree on that?

the CPU turns time into calculations

[drifting thistle]

yea

[forest gazelle]

into work

does that make sense so far?

anyways

[drifting thistle]

yeah

[forest gazelle]

because time is so important

[drifting thistle]

the CPUs time right

[forest gazelle]

we're going to use coins to represent it

well... yes - but all time is the same, right?

time is time

so the cpu time is also your time which is also my time

[drifting thistle]

well theres seconds, minutes, etc

[forest gazelle]

right

so let's say that for one one hundredth of a second is one coin

[drifting thistle]

alright

[forest gazelle]

the cpu can use 100 of our time coins every second

makes sense right? because 100 one hundredths in a second

are you with me so far

[little kelp]

Might be easier to have one coin per second?

[forest gazelle]

fine

[drifting thistle]

I got lost

[forest gazelle]

i figured that was a stretch

alright let me try again

alright let's take cookies

it takes 1 minute to bake a cookie

if we pretend that the CPU's job is to bake cookies

it can bake 60 cookies an hour

[little kelp]

Wait I have an idea

[forest gazelle]

hmm

i really don't like the examples i'm giving out today

[little kelp]

The CPU’s job is to cook, not just make cookies. Cookies take time like Ivan said, so once that is done, you need to free space in the oven to cook something else.

Garbage collectors would remove the tray, etc

[drifting thistle]

Im not sure how many coins I have

[forest gazelle]

dont bring garbage collectors into this

like that

thats gonna get more confusing

okay you know what let's stick to the cookie analogy

forget the coins

[drifting thistle]

why does the garbage collector need to remove the tray?

[forest gazelle]

vision

i am crying inside

xd

[little kelp]

To cook other food, if you leave the tray, you won’t have space to cook anything else

[forest gazelle]

you know what

i'll just explain without analogies

lets say your specific CPU does 1000 calculations every second

your minecraft server needs to do 800 calculations every second

and it's the only thing the CPU is doing

what would the tps of your minecraft server be?

[buoyant haven]

14.2

[drifting thistle]

do I have the tps locker on?

[forest gazelle]

dammit piggy dont confuse him lol

vision this is a vanilla server

what is the tps

[little kelp]

You have to be joking

[forest gazelle]

do you know how tps is calculated?

vision

do you remember

[drifting thistle]

about what

[forest gazelle]

about how tps is calculated

[little kelp]

It’s literally ticks/seconds

[drifting thistle]

basically if the server has a lot of tasks

[forest gazelle]

vision

what does tps stand for

[drifting thistle]

tickets per second

[little kelp]

Having a tps locker is like trying to stop time and have things keep going

[forest gazelle]

no

vision what is a ticket???

where did you come up with that

how did you find that word

[drifting thistle]

ticks per second

[forest gazelle]

okay yes

do you know what a tick is

[drifting thistle]

a task for the garbage collector

[forest gazelle]

or no

not at all

well

no

not at all

[little kelp]

Lol

[forest gazelle]

a tick is essentially a "frame" but for servers

like you know how people try to game at 60 fps

servers try to run at 20 tps

[drifting thistle]

I wasnt aware it was a frame

how does that work

[little kelp]

Vision

[forest gazelle]

each minecraft tick is one "step" that the minecraft server takes

[drifting thistle]

like an entry frame or what kind

[forest gazelle]

i'm talking frames like frames for a video game

i'm sure you know how video game frames work, right?

every frame, the screen updates

right??

[drifting thistle]

oh you meant those

[forest gazelle]

yes lol

[drifting thistle]

I thought you meant like a tcpshield frame

[forest gazelle]

what

[little kelp]

Why??

[forest gazelle]

anyways

for video game frames

your screen changes state every frame

for server tps

the server updates it's state every tick

[little kelp]

Vision have you used an FPS locker before?

[forest gazelle]

now i know what's running through your head vision

"oh boy if tps is like fps then i can TOTALLY use a frame locker / tps locker to get better tps"

[drifting thistle]

yeah the ticks

[forest gazelle]

vision do you know why people's computers drop frames

[drifting thistle]

not enough ram

[forest gazelle]

why they sometimes get 10fps, 5fps instead of the full 60

or whatever

[drifting thistle]

well I used to get lower fps when i had less storage

[forest gazelle]

well... indirectly that can sometimes, rarely be the case

and the same goes for storage

but the direct reason for lower fps is the time it takes your processor to create that next frame

[drifting thistle]

oh ok

[forest gazelle]

you're right though, this can be a result of not enough memory or storage

but the direct reason is that your processor has to wait because of those ^ and as a result can't make the next frame in time

[drifting thistle]

so I need some sort of storage/memory locker for the server

how would I do that

[forest gazelle]

okay vision

i know there's like a 95% chance you're a satire account

but bear with me here

[drifting thistle]

Im not

[forest gazelle]

like i said, the main reason you drop frames is because of the time it takes to create the next frame

the only reason, rather

everything else just leads into that ^

[little kelp]

Vision you should forget everything you think you know that Ivan has not told you

[forest gazelle]

now what's a good way to increase frames?

[drifting thistle]

faster garbage collector

[forest gazelle]

vision

please

let's say you're playing fortnite

[drifting thistle]

oh

[forest gazelle]

and you're getting 15 fps

how do you improve your framerate

[drifting thistle]

had to uninstall it because it took too much storage

more storage I guess

[forest gazelle]

you wouldn't get a faster gpu?

[drifting thistle]

huh

[forest gazelle]

more storage might help too but i don't see why you'd just go straight for that

[drifting thistle]

gpu?

[forest gazelle]

?

do you... know what a GPU is?

[drifting thistle]

something for the GC

you mentioned it earlier

[forest gazelle]

@timid plover

can we uh

can we

get some help

for this poor man

i give up

i'm sorry

[timid plover]

tomorrow maybe... I'm going to sleep. Its 7 am

[forest gazelle]

vision can I ask how old you are

[drifting thistle]

13

[forest gazelle]

okay well see now I know you're a satire account

[drifting thistle]

just kidding lol

[forest gazelle]

yeah i hope so

[little kelp]

Very funny

[forest gazelle]

master are you seeing this chat

[little kelp]

Nobody is going to believe you (I hope)

Yes I am

I gave up on talking

[forest gazelle]

vision i was hopeful, i was very hopeful that you were just someone who was exceptionally confused

[drifting thistle]

I'm 16

[forest gazelle]

but you're either a satire account or a troll or both

[little kelp]

And you have owned multiple Minecraft servers, and have enough money to spend thousands on a developer?

[drifting thistle]

I'm not a satire account

[forest gazelle]

what are you then

what is the name of your server network

[little kelp]

I asked them for the ip, and “it only works on their clients”

[drifting thistle]

was joking, but 16 isnt young

[little kelp]

Yes it is

[forest gazelle]

can I see the IP, vision?

[drifting thistle]

Well I told myself I wasn't going to say the server due to its brand and I didn't want to make it look unproffesional, but

MineHQ

[forest gazelle]

so if i join their discord

i'll see you as the owner?

[buoyant haven]

r u owner of this server

[slow imp]

funnycube is, bruh

[buoyant haven]

nein

i mean minehw

[little kelp]

Ten

[buoyant haven]

minehq

[drifting thistle]

we don't have a discord, we use teamspeak atm

[little kelp]

What

[buoyant haven]

wadu hek

[drifting thistle]

yep as of the acquisition in early 2019, purchased from jhalt & frozenorb, llc

[forest gazelle]

can you send me the IP

that you would use to connect

[little kelp]

There is no way you would have no discord and no website

[drifting thistle]

sure, cheatbreaker or falcun client required though

[forest gazelle]

sure

send the IP

[buoyant haven]

do u own the twitter vision

[drifting thistle]

nope

[serene lotus]

yes i am the owner of internet

[buoyant haven]

i mean the twitter account for minehq

with 22k followers

[forest gazelle]

where's the.. ip?

[drifting thistle]

I have MineHQ's website but its overkill to use it

[forest gazelle]

o.o

[drifting thistle]

so I dont have it installed

[buoyant haven]

aight so

if i join the server

u make me op

then i’ll believe u

[forest gazelle]

where's the cheatbreaker/falcun client ip

[drifting thistle]

cb.minehq.com

[forest gazelle]

nope

that's not a real address

[drifting thistle]

do you have cheatbreaker?

[forest gazelle]

vision do you understand how IPs work

if the IP was pointed somewhere i'd be able to ping it

[drifting thistle]

you can only access the server through cheatbreaker or falcun currently

we only have a presence ingame

[forest gazelle]

nah

[drifting thistle]

even our server store is built through cheatbreakers former cosmetic shop

[forest gazelle]

wait

are you using tcpshield

[drifting thistle]

were looking into it but not currently

[forest gazelle]

what host are you using

[drifting thistle]

ovh

[forest gazelle]

where is your server hosted

in the US?

[little kelp]

The moon

Only the best

Fastest connection times on the planet

[drifting thistle]

US

& Brazil soon

[forest gazelle]

curious

because the domain name you gave resolves to the UK

how wacky, right?!

[drifting thistle]

minehq was always us based

[forest gazelle]

well the address you have given me resolves to a UK ip address

[drifting thistle]

weird

[forest gazelle]

yeah

kinda seems like it doesn't exist huh

[drifting thistle]

I mean ok lol, idk why but alrighty

ill be brb in a few

hours

[thorny wasp]

😂 you don’t own MineHQ

[forest gazelle]

additionally, there are no open ports on the cb.minehq.com address - or the minehq.com address

(besides port 80 but that's a given)

[drifting thistle]

Does anyone know why players when entering a region and breaking a block lose the effects of potions? I think it has to do with WorldGuard but I can't find the problem. Could you help me?

[slow imp]

@misty aspen how was that name even accepted by minecraft? Or is it a bedrock account or whatever

[thorny wasp]

Show me your region flags

[drifting thistle]

dm

[wet oasis]

Lol

This was a great read

It’s nice when ppl don’t know what they’re on about

[buoyant haven]

uses ovh

considering using tcpshield

makes sense

[polar pasture]

Kek

@wet oasis did you test it yet -.-

[burnt kite]

Its an SRV record probably

[rapid ocean]

i cant believe i just read through all of that

if this isnt a troll idk what is

[empty matrix]

lol

[empty matrix]

?

oh

im not on hypixel rn

[thorny wasp]

anyone play hypixel SB?

[empty matrix]

duels ftw

[thorny wasp]

119,481

online players...

mad

[forest gazelle]

i think he still needs an open port

[thorny wasp]

Just looked at starting to play it

so much to do 😒

[burnt kite]

not how SRV records work.
use google's DNS to look up the SRV record, then ping the backend

[forest gazelle]

well either way it doesn't look like it exists 🤷‍♂️

[neat hazel]

And they’re all playing bedwars 🙂

[empty matrix]

bedwars 🤢

jk i like bedwars but i suck at it lol

[neat hazel]

What’s better

[empty matrix]

duels 😎

[neat hazel]

Nahh hypixel pvp is questionable imo

[empty matrix]

i like minemen club bridge

[neat hazel]

Same

For me it’s either minemen or lunar

Nothing else feels as good as those two

[empty matrix]

the only reason why i prefer minemen is because u can't spawnblock

i dont mind the pvp differences

actually i prefer hypixel kb

[neat hazel]

Spawn block?

What’s that

[empty matrix]

in bridge

basically

its where you place a barrier of blocks right in front of their spawn

on hypixel, once you get spawnblocked you have literally no chance of winning

[neat hazel]

Oh right

[empty matrix]

i hate spawnblockers 😡

[neat hazel]

I’m a spawn blocker though 😔

[empty matrix]

REMENCE

😠 😠 😠

[neat hazel]

Noooo I’m trolling

That’s scummy

[empty matrix]

._.

[thorny wasp]

Crazy how serious some people take it, watched a comp on YouTube a while back for BW

[neat hazel]

Yeah there’s a ton of people hopping on bedwars

[empty matrix]

i have like a 11% win/loss ratio

[neat hazel]

I see why though

[empty matrix]

in bedwars

but in duels i have like a 50 weekly win/loss ratio iirc

[thorny wasp]

Fun game just so repetitive

[neat hazel]

True

[neat hazel]

I’ll bring that down 🙂

[empty matrix]

👀 😳

[neat hazel]

I actually don’t remember the last time I played minecraft

[empty matrix]

what-

[neat hazel]

Was it with you dkim?

[empty matrix]

oh you play val

[neat hazel]

Nah not even

[empty matrix]

do you play anything

[neat hazel]

Valorant sometimes

I should get back into minecraft though

But I usually do game development

[empty matrix]

also

i found someone on like the same skill level (bridge) 😄

finally

[neat hazel]

Who?

[empty matrix]

except

that hes never online

😔

its @patent cedar

[neat hazel]

Chestly 😮

[empty matrix]

he beat me in mlgrush though

[neat hazel]

What the hell is mlgrush

[empty matrix]

basically a bridge in the middle of two platforms, each having a bed

and each person having a kb 1 stick

[neat hazel]

Lmao

[empty matrix]

he takes no kb

since iirc he clicks like 40+ cps or something

[neat hazel]

what

[empty matrix]

lol

[neat hazel]

But how

[empty matrix]

🤷

yea

so he took no kb

lol

oh also

[neat hazel]

yes

[dense fiber]

Dkim I can probably beat u

[neat hazel]

im hopping on

tofpu lets go

[dense fiber]

I'm not fighting you

[neat hazel]

not ur choice

[dense fiber]

I haven't played for two months

[neat hazel]

I haven't either

[dense fiber]

Yeah sure...

[neat hazel]

no fr

I haven't played in 2021 iirc

[dense fiber]

I dont even have a mousepad anymore nor a place to use my mouse sad moment

[neat hazel]

it's ok

lunar or minemen

or duels

[dense fiber]

@empty matrix

[neat hazel]

no im talking to u

[empty matrix]

wat

[neat hazel]

ok fine

dkim lunar or minemen

[empty matrix]

im not on mc rn

[dense fiber]

😁

[empty matrix]

i can duel in 2 hours

[neat hazel]

welp, tofpu you're up

lunar or minemen

[dense fiber]

No way

[neat hazel]

im garbage I swear

[empty matrix]

for just general pvp i prefer hypixel tbh

lol

[neat hazel]

I haven't played in so long

[dense fiber]

I dont got a place to use my mouse man

Not fair

[empty matrix]

i've beaten everyone so far that i've dueled in this server 😤

(except for chestly)

and some games with other ppl

iirc

i know i beat remence though

[dense fiber]

Add me to the list later dkim

[empty matrix]

sorta

he beat me too

[neat hazel]

🥲

[empty matrix]

i dont remember anything anymore

[empty matrix]

ok ill ping you

[dense fiber]

Okay

I don't mind

[empty matrix]

tofpu what hypixel level r u

i can beat most ppl level 50 and below

[neat hazel]

Is it optifines anniversary or smth?

[empty matrix]

a while ago

i think

[neat hazel]

why does my cape have a 10

[empty matrix]

they changed the cape

[dense fiber]

I dunno but I'm 200 stars on bedwars

[empty matrix]

welp

read my message 😉

10 years

[neat hazel]

yes I have 🙂

ty for the information

[empty matrix]

what

hmm

okay but i beat HELLSHOWERS and he was a pretty high level

so i still have hope

[neat hazel]

adam still plays? lmao

[empty matrix]

ya

[neat hazel]

omg pvp feels so weird

[dense fiber]

I used to be a potpvper (ew, I know)

You got no chance man

[neat hazel]

😏 I wanna fight him

[empty matrix]

😬

remence tell me if u win

if you win then ill probably beat him in bridge at least 😏

[dense fiber]

I'm insane at bridge

[empty matrix]

oh-

f

[dense fiber]

I get no kb 😁

[empty matrix]

hey me neither

and i only click 11 cps

[dense fiber]

I dunno about now thought

[empty matrix]

wat

remence

did you duel him yet

[dense fiber]

Nope

I'm not fighting him

Only you

[empty matrix]

oh

why

[dense fiber]

Just curious

[empty matrix]

oh no

[dense fiber]

I got no place to use my mouse so you'll get a chance though

[empty matrix]

ah

😤

[dense fiber]

?

[empty matrix]

lol

[dense fiber]

[empty matrix]

[dense fiber]

[empty matrix]

😮

[neat hazel]

tell him to stop being weird dkim

[dense fiber]

Ayy

What

[neat hazel]

fight me 😈

[empty matrix]

😮

[dense fiber]

Hmm

Convince me

[neat hazel]

1. im garbage
2. I wanna see how good you are

and 3. just becasue

[dense fiber]

Hmm

Hypixel?

[neat hazel]

sure

[dense fiber]

I'm not doing any 1.7 stuff 😅

Fine

Lemme setup my laptop real quick

[neat hazel]

okok

[hearty moth]

which is better Tuinity or Purpur?

[woeful tree]

DoomSpigot obviously.

[hearty moth]

can you stop?

[fathom crater]

Hey guys i am having this error when i open a server

can anybody help me ?

[woeful tree]

Use paper

[fathom crater]

solve that ?

[hearty moth]

I bet you can't read

[woeful tree]

Yes

[fathom crater]

I play minecraft java on macos

[woeful tree]

Just use paper

Purpur, and Tuinity are for dumb people.

[fathom crater]

and i get the error - Failed To Connect To Server:Disconnected

whenever i join a server

[viral moon]

bye

[neat hazel]

just go to mcm and buy the most expensive jar

all ur problems will be solved

[dense fiber]

I have 350 ping...

You still wanna 1v1?

@neat hazel

[neat hazel]

ofc

[dense fiber]

What's your ign

[neat hazel]

remence

[neat hazel]

dkim, tofpu scares me

[dense fiber]

😄

[empty matrix]

oh no

did he win

[dense fiber]

A decent amount

It's your turn now dkim

[empty matrix]

just gimme an hour

[empty matrix]

oh no

why am i scared

why am i scared a decent amount

[dense fiber]

Just wait and see dkim

[empty matrix]

@dense fiber tell me when ready

[dense fiber]

I cant play rn

Just think I won okay

👍 ❤️

[empty matrix]

[wet oasis]

Tuinity

[plain stone]

Can i ask what server hosting is the best?

[wet oasis]

Depends on your needs, tbh

PhoneixNAP is standard

[woeful tree]

=faq list

[umbral lance]

Available FAQ Answers:

add-to-dd, arrow-code, autosellapi, base64-value, best-vps-deal, bug-with-dd, challenges, checkitem, codeblocks, colors, dc-fuuid, dc-towny, dependency-injection, di, dictionary, discorddev, dm-1.10.5, dm-builds, dm-external, dm-filler, dm-glow, dm-heads, dm-requirements, dm-update, docs, download-ram, dry, ecloudblock, enchant-format, enchants, entities, flags, help, hidden-roles, hosting, hosting-free, hosting-paid, hotswap, imgur, item-data, javadocs, jdk, js-factionname, js-tag, json, learn-java, luckperms, main, materials, mf, nojquery, notowner, optimize, papi-builds, papibot, particles, paste, placeholders, player, pls-no, plsnoarrowcode, plsnolombok, roleperks, site, solid, sounds, spigot, spigotid, startuplog, tagess, tryandsee, welcome-screen, wiki, xy, yaml

Requested by: Mackenzie Molloy • Use with ?<key>

[woeful tree]

=faq hosting

[umbral lance]

FAQ Answer:

Free:

• Openshift: https://www.openshift.com/
  2gb of memory, automatically expires after 60 days, but you can resubscribe as often as you'd like.
• Heroku: https://heroku.com/
  No CLI or SSH, no file access, might make your app sleep if you reach monthly uptime limit.
• AWS (Free tier) https://aws.amazon.com/free/
  Free tier containers from Amazon, expires in 12 months
• Google Cloud Platform (Free tier) https://cloud.google.com/
  Free tier google cloud servers

Paid:

• OVH: https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/
  Full VPS starting at $3.49USD/month, choice of OS, high reliability.
• Digital Ocean: https://m.do.co/
  Starting at $5/month (USD), you can have your own server with 20GB SSD Disk, and 512MB Memory.
• Linode: https://www.linode.com/
  Starting at $5/month (USD), you can have a server with 20GB SSD Disk, and 1GB memory
• Vultr: https://www.vultr.com/
  Starting at $2.5/month (USD), you can have a server with 20GB SSD Disk, and 512MB Memory
• Amazon(AWS) Lightsail: https://amazonlightsail.com/
  Starting at $5/month (USD) (first month free), you can have your own server with 20GB SSD Disk, and 512MB Memory.
• Time4VPS: https://www.time4vps.eu/
  Starting at €0.66/month, get 20GB Storage, 512MB Memory, 0.5TB Bandwidth, and Daily/Weekly backups.
  Various Linux OS distributions, IP addons and instant cPanel/WHM licenses.
• VIRMACH: http://virmach.com/
  Full Windows and Linux Desktop VPS starting at $7USD/month and $10USD/month respectively.
• Sloppy: https://sloppy.io/
  Starting at 5$/month (USD) You can have 500MB Memory, 1TB Transfer per month and 16GB of storage. Extra
  storage and ram can be bought.
• Bithost: https://bithost.io/
  Just a forwarder to DO, but here you can pay with crypto currencies like bitcoin, dogecoin, etc
• Galaxygate https://www.galaxygate.net/
  Starting at 3$/month (USD), get 15GB of storage, 1GB of ram, and unmetered bandwidth.

Requested by: Mackenzie Molloy • hosting

[empty matrix]

o

[woeful tree]

@plain stone ^

[empty matrix]

i think he means mc specific hosting

[lost folio]

Buenas

alguien puede ayudarme?

tengo un problema

[thin orbit]

esta es una Discord solo en inglés

[thin orbit]

?materials

[umbral lance]

FAQ Answer:

Material Lists

• 1.8.8
• 1.12.2
• 1.13.2
• 1.14.x
• 1.15.2
• Latest (1.16.x)

Requested by: Starmism • materials

[drifting thistle]

How do i set up a permission group so for example i can give someone the rank admin so it will say Admin as their rank

Are you using luckperms

if so its the prefix set prefix to admin or helper or mod

No i use PermissionsEx

[wispy rapids]

its recommended you use luckperms since it has a web base editor and much more simple

[drifting thistle]

I will switch over

[wispy rapids]

[drifting thistle]

Thank you for the assistance!

[runic plaza]

It’s worth mentioning pex has many flaws whereas luckperms is being maintained still

[neat hazel]

Also, fefo does support for luckperms

[wispy rapids]

[runic plaza]

also luckperms has good code

[wispy rapids]

oh yes they do!

/lp editor and blah blah

and you can create tracks

heh

[runic plaza]

Commands tho

Honesty lp is also nice because it has tab completion which works flawlessly

[glad quartz]

How’d i create upon a right click, that a hand stack is sold for (x) money in DM?

can’t understand from the wiki

[drifting thistle]

Does anyone know why everytime i join my server it says, "Internal Exception: java.io.IOException: An exsisting connection was forcibly closed by the remote host"

[timid plover]

Use #general-plugins and if you'll go to the wiki there should be an example menu for a store in deluxemenus.

=wiki deluxemenus

[umbral lance]

Wiki Result:

DeluxeMenus - HelpChat Wiki
Description. DeluxeMenus is the all in one inventory GUI menu plugin! You can
create GUI menus that open with custom commands that will show stats or
perform ...

Requested by: BlitzGamer_88

[timid plover]

somewhere here ^^^

[glad quartz]

Thanks Blitz

[timid plover]

no problem 👍

[visual flax]

hi

[drifting thistle]

does anyone host their own server on a server

[timid plover]

ugh. what?

[empty matrix]

wha?

[forest gazelle]

i do

[empty matrix]

🥲

[drifting thistle]

do you have your own phytsical server?

[empty matrix]

a dedi?

or vps?

yea a lot of ppl host it on there

although its a bit harder to setup if you haven't done stuff like it before

[drifting thistle]

my friend bought one and it keeps saying that it doesnt work because it failed to bind to port

but he isnt using the ports?

[empty matrix]

that usually means that the port is in use iirc

try using a different port

[drifting thistle]

ok so now the serevr has started but it wont let anyone connect

@empty matrix

[empty matrix]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

port forward?

[drifting thistle]

already set up

[forest gazelle]

what's the IP

[drifting thistle]

173.71.108.95

@forest gazelle

[forest gazelle]

alright

[drifting thistle]

just gives error

[forest gazelle]

that ip has zero open ports

[drifting thistle]

should

let me check its a friends server so im looking at it rn

18:29:05 [WARNING] Could not bind to host /0.0.0.0:25565
java.net.BindException: Address already in use: bind

when i do the port forwarding on his server this comes up

[timid plover]

something else uses that port

make sure you don't have 2 instances of the server running

[drifting thistle]

nope theres only `1

1

yo @forest gazelle can you check the ports now?>

[forest gazelle]

sure

lmao

cmon blitz it wasnt that bad

[drifting thistle]

do you need the device ip or the public ?

[forest gazelle]

public should be enough

what happens when your friend dues netstat -aon in command prompt on his machine

[timid plover]

yo what do you use to scan ports? netstat ?

oh

nvm xD

[forest gazelle]

see if any of the ip's show up with a :25565

i'm using nmap to scan his ip

[timid plover]

nmap? ah

netstat is just local right?

[forest gazelle]

i think so

i actually don't know too much about em 🥲

[timid plover]

command to download nmap? xD

[forest gazelle]

it should just be apt install nmap or whatever package manager you have

[timid plover]

oh nvm no cmd for it

oh ok

[forest gazelle]

(for linux)

because that's what i'm using nmap on lol

[timid plover]

ah WSL still not working for me

[empty matrix]

i have 101

size

nvm

68 now

in kotlin

[timid plover]

k now its working...

fucking hell

it breaks sometimes when I restart

or stop and start

windows

bcz apaprently I need to full restart windows or something like that

bcz it saves cache

to load faster

and that breaks wsl

[humble swift]

do you have a reason for using windows?

[empty matrix]

windows easy to use

and most apps support it

[timid plover]

^^^

[empty matrix]

also linux is more cli based

[humble swift]

you ever used linux?

[empty matrix]

a bit

[dusk stirrup]

hey

[empty matrix]

if you count SSHing to a raspberry pi and 2 minutes on a VM (ubuntu)

xD

hi

[dusk stirrup]

where is best place to ask for help

[empty matrix]

?help

[umbral lance]

FAQ Answer:

» Give the helpers some details
» Ask suitable questions
» Be polite
» Wait

Source

Requested by: dkim19375 • help

[empty matrix]

anywhere

just ask

although the places are sometimes self explanatory

for example for plugins

#general-plugins / #general-plugins-2

[dusk stirrup]

i feel like this is a dumb question

[empty matrix]

for developing applications, #development

minecraft, #minecraft

etc

[humble swift]

probably is, but go on

[empty matrix]

probably is
🥲

[dusk stirrup]

just recently got deluxe chat plugin, how to i make it so it says the name and the group of the person rather than %player_name%

[empty matrix]

%player_displayname%

it should work if you have vault

it works for me with Vault & LuckPerms

[dusk stirrup]

yeah i have both of those

is there a command i should use

or nah

[empty matrix]

you can just use %player_displayname%

also in the future #placeholder-api or #general-plugins / #general-plugins-2 😛

[forest gazelle]

is this a bad thing

[empty matrix]

im saying that because the majority prefer gui > cli

a lot of people don't even know what linux is

probably

[forest gazelle]

anyways

cli > gui

in my humble opinion

[empty matrix]

in your opinion

[forest gazelle]

well yes

people with no arms who can only navigate a screen using their eyes have a very good reason to use guis

[little kelp]

Just ask Fefo, Fefo is always right

[drifting thistle]

any of yall use linksys smart wifi ?

[forest gazelle]

but I luckily have hands and fingers that can push keys

[empty matrix]

what if i dont

[forest gazelle]

you've already given yourself away

you type

like

this

[empty matrix]

oh

[forest gazelle]

and no tts would do that imo

[empty matrix]

no

it would be

stt

not tts

😉

[forest gazelle]

whatever xd

you're right

[empty matrix]

i make it press

enter after a few

seconds

[forest gazelle]

anyways

in my opinion

the best part about a cli is everything is compatible

you can take an output from any application you can dream of, and pipe it into any other application, and repeat

good luck doing that on windows without hours of effort and digging

or at all

[little kelp]

What does cli stand for?