Apparently its got like 3k views, and for the amount of people that posted it, no-one has fallen for it
#minecraft
rapid ocean
old shale
What acc is that?
drifting thistle
the channel that posted the fake “discord + microsoft“ thing
granite glen
delicate fulcrum
How hard would it be to code a moderation plug-in with starting off with H2 and later on doing MySQL
shell cedar
Huh
They are both sql languages
Might be as easy as swapping a driver
(Nothings ever that easy though 😔)
unborn arch
Yes party me on hypix, name Adam2Mine, I can ninja bridge to mid fast
pure walrus
Ni ||Writing’s not that easy, but Grammarly can help. This sentence is grammatically correct, but it’s wordy and hard to read. It undermines the writer’s message, and the word choice is bland. Grammarly’s cutting-edge technology helps you craft compelling, understandable writing that makes an impact on your reader.|| er
lean ether
question | I have some commands in red, I added them to all possible plugins that are responsible for the rights, but it still did not help, who came across, please help))
thorny wasp
ello
viral moon
nvm it's cuz i was running on java 11
gray geode
Imagine using Java 8.
drifting thistle
guys who wanna crash pay to win servers DM me
wise jacinth
How do deez tiers work
timid plover
you get xp when you talk in support channels and some others
and you level up
=xp
umbral lanceBOT
timid plover
as you can see I'm level 70 ^
and every 10 levels you get a new tier
some of them give new perks
?roleperks
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FAQ Answer:
wise jacinth
Ayo @timid plover do you know anything about mc bedrock resource packs
Like I need this java resource pack to work in mcbe right
And it uses Japanese letters and changes it to other images which are like emojis
timid plover
no I'm afraid. I've tried java resource packs but they broke me. I don't know anythign at all about bedrock tho
empty matrix
no I'm afraid. I've tried java resource packs but they broke me. I don't know an...
default java resource pack 🤢
timid plover
I meant making them dkim.
empty matrix
oh
timid plover
as in making custom entities and stuff
empty matrix
ahh okay
slow imp
suggestion for short events or something for players? Last time we were doing a quiz event
old shale
colorwars
forest gazelle
amogus
dense fiber
No
bitter escarp
Im running a skyblock server on 1.12.2, with viaversion till 1.16.4 and i want to bring in netherite
but do i then need to put my server on 1.16 and use viabackwards?
brittle granite
Netherite will only show on 1.16+
snow basalt
hey so Im converting from 1.12.2 -> 1.8.8 and Im getting errors with blocks like this but the server still loads and looks pretty much the same? Is there a way I can stop this spam? https://gyazo.com/bfc822df09b708c416bf391a41693d62
proven elbow
is there a way i can limit the amount of time a phantom can stay in ghost form in origins mod
hello?
neat hazel
hey so Im converting from 1.12.2 -> 1.8.8 and Im getting errors with blocks like...
yeah so
take it from me
I tried doing the exact same thing
do not downgrade your version
all it does is cause problems
which either take a lot of unnecessary time to fix
or are unfixable (corruption)
proven elbow
is there a way i can limit the amount of time a phantom can stay in ghost form i...
someone help pls :(
neat hazel
Haha no problem
drifting thistle
Could anyone help me with wiping my Sipiggot server, I need to wipe Economy, Islands items without deleting files
thin orbit
afaik, the only way to remove an economy and items would be to delete files, unless they're stored in a database
drifting thistle
Which files would i need to delete?
thin orbit
Not sure, whichever files contain the economy and island items lol
depends on the plugins you use
bitter escarp
I cant get votifier to work with superbvote
well the voting websites just cant connect to votifier they say
i use latest nuvotifier on 1.12.2 paperspigot
bitter escarp
Hello i need some help with ASkyBlock
shadow parcel
bitter escarp
Ok
boreal leaf
Hello
rapid ocean
hello good sir how are you on this fine evening
rapid ocean
im good thanks for asking my dear friend
boreal leaf
I have 150 online looking for a spigot optimization
rapid ocean
?optimize
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FAQ Answer:
craggy smelt
Hey, how to make vault not be able to do such numbers like 1.99999999998$? haha
burnt kite
Hey, how to make vault not be able to do such numbers like 1.99999999998$? haha
#general-plugins , and what economy plugin?
drifting thistle
Anyone knows how to fix this?
Error: Nicknames must be alphanumeric
What is the permission for it because it works for me when im OP
thin orbit
thin orbit
what did you set your name to jesus
drifting thistle
Hex Color
Its new in 1.16.5
works for Opped players but i cant find the permission for it
xd
thin orbit
essentials.nick.rgb
deep turret
i am strugeling with deluxechat and papi
thin orbit
#spigot-linking
deep turret
hey
thin orbit
?spigot
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FAQ Answer:
deep turret
thin orbit
?player
umbral lanceBOT
FAQ Answer:
thin orbit
also get the Vault expansion while you're at it
visual rock
What is that thing ? it's not a texture pack
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/530547060177371177/828010303848579102/unknown.png
prime jay
hi i just recent started going into minecraft development, and i made a command /hello to send a message to the player. but when i execute it nothing happends? where can i ask my question in this discord?
serene lotus
prime jay
thanks
empty matrix
anyone has a good itemjoin plugin
drifting thistle
i tried that one but cant figure out how to work with it
empty matrix
did u watch the yt vids
drifting thistle
not rly
drifting thistle
Does anyone know why there is so many mobs spawning in my world?
And now i changed it in bukkit.yml and now nothing is spawning
i changed it back and it doesnt work 🤷♂️
neat hazel
You have any plugins that you think could be preventing the spawns?
drifting thistle
@runic plaza the jar is best suited for 1.7 combat
also the anticheat is very advanced
runic plaza
no shit 1.7 jars are suited for 1.7 combat
But relying on 1.7 is an objectively bad choice
drifting thistle
if using a raw 1.7 jar, yes
uneven bison
drifting thistle
hence why we had to have tons of security measures developed to ensure the jars security
runic plaza
Okay?
drifting thistle
the jar is stable now in terms of security/data arrangement
runic plaza
What you want me to say?
Using a 1.7.10 jar is still immensely unwise no matter what
Even if you happen to patch certain stuff it still is a bad choice.
drifting thistle
there isn't really a good alternative
runic plaza
Yes there is
drifting thistle
Like
runic plaza
Spigot, Paper?
drifting thistle
we use a very deepened fork of spigot
we're partly a fork of ragespigot (but immensely recoded)
runic plaza
Ok
runic plaza
Choice of algorithms, data downloading/uploading, IO I guess
Then minecraft is single threaded to a certain extent which can be a downside
drifting thistle
how do you disable choice of algorithms on an instance?
runic plaza
No I meant like
If you use wrong algorithm it may be expensive in terms of time
While that isn’t always memory intensive it is still certainly something to be considerate about
drifting thistle
we have this very large back-end project where we're taking apart a mySQL database and inputting functions that relate similar to tasks done by a JVM Argument or the G1GC
I think that could optimize the whole machine & especially the actual server itself a lot
runic plaza
Do you use MySql?
drifting thistle
yeah
runic plaza
If that’s the case I can gladly recommend to switch to something more modern like mariadb or postegresql
drifting thistle
we could switch to mariadb since its basically the same as SQL
I'm only familiar with SQL though, also the current prototype configs we have for the database are based on mySQLs API
runic plaza
Hm yeah well you should def look up postgre and maria
little kelp
How are you stabilizing tps from 14 to 21?
hollow mesa
https://www.howoldisminecraft1710.today/
That's a thing?
drifting thistle
Hey, Does anyone know what the bot is called which can be used for verification where you are sent a code to paste into the minecraft server for verification?
thin orbit
Sounds like a DiscordSRV thing
drifting thistle
Does is have a verification feature? because that is the main thing im looking for.
thin orbit
Yeah you link your discord and minecraft account
drifting thistle
Perfect, thank you for the help!
agile gale
Bro im tryna log into something and I need to do a bot check but its the hardest bot check ever
Can someone try to help and hop on a call and ill share
drifting thistle
So I'm looking to upgrade to a stronger machine
Currently using a 96GB ram dedicated machine, looking to get something above 128, maybe 256 maximum.
hollow mesa
@drifting thistle how can you use so much ram for a Minecraft server?
thin orbit
that's the troll that has a custom 1.7 server jar he paid thousands for lol
dapper garden
Does anybody know how to get support for the EzRankUp plugin made by clip? It linked me here when i clicked support
thin orbit
?spigot
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FAQ Answer:
dapper garden
Thanks
drifting thistle
Anyone experienced in hybrid servers?
thin orbit
as in, bedrock and java support?
drifting thistle
No as in multiple Java servers tied into one big server
Skyblock, factions, survival all tied together
thin orbit
oh proxies?
drifting thistle
;/;
thin orbit
tied together in what way exactly?
forest gazelle
(bungee)
forest gazelle
o.O
thin orbit
yeah it seems like you know what a proxy is lol
forest gazelle
multiverse then?
thin orbit
do you mean like shared economy or something then?
drifting thistle
Different world for each "server" but it's all on the same server
forest gazelle
multiverse
empty matrix
drifting thistle
Yes multiverse
thin orbit
that sounds like a waste
empty matrix
that's... not separate servers
thin orbit
and very difficult
drifting thistle
Bruh
drifting thistle
See that's where you're wrong
thin orbit
well yes the whole point of a server is to contain things
drifting thistle
Plugins can define what world they work in
empty matrix
world
thin orbit
though they might have a different definition of "server" than us
thin orbit
if we're talking technicalities, a "server" is a paper.jar or whatever running on a machine
drifting thistle
I'm talking about gameplay server
forest gazelle
can you explain why bungee is not what you want
and also why multiverse is not what you want
empty matrix
multiverse for completely diff gamemodes = 😬 but possible
thin orbit
they probably only have one server they bought from some provider and want multiple gamemodes
drifting thistle
Bruh
empty matrix
y u Bruh so much 😛
woeful tree
can you explain why bungee is not what you want
You don't get it, this guy is innovating the server jar as you know it. lmfao
drifting thistle
So there's three separate overworked, one is factions, one is Skyblock and the other is survival
Overeorlds
Fuck
thin orbit
Yeah that's hard to do
forest gazelle
You don't get it, this guy is innovating the server jar as you know it. lmfao
oh my 😳
drifting thistle
Overworlds
empty matrix
So there's three separate overworked, one is factions, one is Skyblock and the o...
so different worlds?
thin orbit
Again, any reason not to use a proxy?
drifting thistle
@thin orbit see it's not that hard, because plugins can now define what world they work in
woeful tree
So there's three separate overworked, one is factions, one is Skyblock and the o...
I'll give you 100 USD for every 1 tps up-to 20 you get with 1000 players online.
empty matrix
am i missing out on something 👀
thin orbit
I guess you could manually check per world on everything you do?
but that's like a multiverse thing
and also a very uncommon and poor use case
stone dome
So there's three separate overworked, one is factions, one is Skyblock and the o...
bungeecord/waterfall
thin orbit
lol pulse coming in 10 minutes late
drifting thistle
Not using bungee
stone dome
lmao
empty matrix
Not using bungee
why?
thin orbit
again, any reason why not?
stone dome
i dont bother reading
empty matrix
lol
drifting thistle
I only have one server
empty matrix
okay
thin orbit
yup called it
empty matrix
so multiverse
thin orbit
yeah multiverse is the way to go here boss
empty matrix
^
woeful tree
I only have one server
Have you got some fucked-up dedicated minecraft server hosting or what?
stone dome
lol
woeful tree
96GB of RAM
empty matrix
Have you got some fucked-up dedicated minecraft server hosting or what?
wat
empty matrix
why tf does he has 96 gigs
stone dome
1 server?
empty matrix
for 1 server
thin orbit
custom 1.7 jar
drifting thistle
@woeful tree no it's actually my best friends startup lol
thin orbit
ahaha
stone dome
1.7 and custom too?
drifting thistle
I have a dedicated
stone dome
💀
empty matrix
I have a dedicated
how much ram does ur setup have?
thin orbit
you can run proxy on that wtf
drifting thistle
8
empty matrix
o
thin orbit
dude what are you doing
if you have a dedicated machine, you can run anything on there, proxy and 3 mc server instances included
woeful tree
Sounds like someone is trying to drink some water out of sieve. xD
thin orbit
you need to talk more Mackenzie, this is some quality content
drifting thistle
I don't think this is funny for you to make fun of my friend for
woeful tree
I don't think this is funny for you to make fun of my friend for
We aren't making fun of them, we're just correcting them.
thin orbit
they're making fun of some other guy who had 96 gigs of ram on a single server
woeful tree
they're making fun of some other guy who had 96 gigs of ram on a single server
512kb of storage is the only catch xD
thin orbit
we're questioning you as to why you don't use the provided solutions to your problem that you can easily implement
thin orbit
512kb of storage is the only catch xD
mmm ramdrive
forest gazelle
I don't think this is funny for you to make fun of my friend for
if you want to have multiple gamemodes on a single minecraft instance, the closest you can get is multiverse
empty matrix
imagine not using hard drive instead of ram smh
thin orbit
imagine not using hard drive instead of ram smh
well no that's the opposite
that's a swap file
drifting thistle
@forest gazelle know anyone that's done it before? Could use some advice lol
thin orbit
with some hackery magic you can use ram as persistent storage
woeful tree
@drifting thistle I'll personally setup bungeecord for you, just so you and you're friend don't suffer whilst running the next hypixel.
empty matrix
- install multiverse
- do
/mvcreate Survival normal - do
/world Survival
done
nitro has reaction perms?
forest gazelle
i personally don't know anybody who is extremely proficient with multiverse, but i don't think it's terribly hard to set up
empty matrix
😔
forest gazelle
the only frustrating part about multiverse is, as you pointed out, some plugins don't like working on only one world on a server
drifting thistle
empty matrix
wat
empty matrix
- install multiverse, multiverse nether portal (so that the portals link), and multiverse inventories
- do
/mvcreate Survival normal- do
/world Survival
done
stone dome
with some hackery magic you can use ram as persistent storage
|| what about all the videos in my porn folder? /s||
drifting thistle
I know how to setup multiverse and literally anything, just wondering how other people went on with this. I'm asking how people combined it all together
thin orbit
other people didn't go on with this
drifting thistle
I have a sketch up of what I'm thinking but I can't send pics
empty matrix
I know how to setup multiverse and literally anything, just wondering how other ...
well a world manager or proxy are the only two options
thin orbit
?imgur
woeful tree
I know how to setup multiverse and literally anything, just wondering how other ...
They use multi-bungeecord
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FAQ Answer:
empty matrix
proxy being bungee/velocity/etc
thin orbit
|| what about all the videos in my porn folder? /s||
i mean you could, if you needed ultra-fast access lol
stone dome
lmao
forest gazelle
I know how to setup multiverse and literally anything, just wondering how other ...
i imagine most people just make each world with different generation based on the gamemode, have a portal plugin linking them together, and have other plugins running that either target specific worlds or that you can set permissions for
thin orbit
if you know how to setup multiverse I think you can put that together ivan lol
forest gazelle
yeah it's really not a long process to jump from setting up a single gamemode to setting up several on multiverse
woeful tree
Either funnycube has been selling cocaine, or it's april fools. Just use bloody bungeecord my guy!
stone dome
Either funnycube has been selling cocaine, or it's april fools. Just use bloody ...
tis april 5th
woeful tree
Server -> Bungeecord
Sub-servers -> Factions, Survival, Skyblock
forest gazelle
you should be able to accomplish this with multiverse as long as the plugins are good enough for it
woeful tree
Problem solved.
drifting thistle
Thanks Ivan
stone dome
but keep in mind it will be much harder tho cause achievements
and everything
you have to keep separate
woeful tree
you should be able to accomplish this with multiverse as long as the plugins are...
Stop encouraging dogwater evolutions!
thin orbit
Yeah I wouldn't just ignore everything besides stuff that validates your weird choice already
thin orbit
It's going to be a pain to manage that, but yes, it is technically possible
It would be 100x easier with a proxy and a plugin that stores points that persists across servers, like in a database of some kind
stone dome
it is even pain in the ass for devs
woeful tree
It's going to be a pain to manage that, but yes, it is technically possible
Possible, with a side of wedgey.
forest gazelle
Stop encouraging dogwater evolutions!
i mean if he only has one instance then multiverse for multiple gamemodes is better than no multiple gamemodes
thin orbit
he literally said he had a dedi
forest gazelle
ah
woeful tree
No multiple gamemodes would be better and this ^ (What @thin orbit said)
woeful tree
forest gazelle
hey don't hate on multiverse
forest gazelle
it has it's uses
thin orbit
and this isn't one of them
stone dome
lol
forest gazelle
why not
woeful tree
I don't hate it, it's good when used properly.
thin orbit
multiverse is used for multiple worlds on the same server
forest gazelle
8gb is not a lot, it's not like he has an excess of space
thin orbit
this guy wants three seperate servers
stone dome
ez just run paper
woeful tree
8gb is not a lot, it's not like he has an excess of space
He has 96gb
thin orbit
haha
woeful tree
¯_(ツ)_/¯
thin orbit
of ram yeah
woeful tree
He was talking about 96GB of ram not being enough a moment ago.
thin orbit
lmao
stone dome
"not being enough"
forest gazelle
anyways if you have 8gb of ram and want 3+ gamemodes
thin orbit
that's cause proxies don't do much lol
forest gazelle
multiverse is more efficient than having 3 separate instance as far as ram goes
thin orbit
you still need to power each server individually
forest gazelle
not even considering bungee
forest gazelle
i'm ignoring any overhead bungee itself gives
i'm talking 1 minecraft server vs 3
thin orbit
you could definitely go 2GB per server
with as few players as he's gonna get, no probs
woeful tree
@thin orbit Never mind - I'm getting confused with two people haha
forest gazelle
or you could go 8gb and be much more flexible for it
thin orbit
<@!186255788212355073> Never mind - I'm getting confused with two people haha
yeah lol that's the meme guy haha
forest gazelle
as far as ram allocation goes
stone dome
its not more flexible
woeful tree
I was thinking of this guy: #minecraft message
forest gazelle
it is more flexible
forest gazelle
you can have 60 people on survival one second and 60 on skyblock the next
thin orbit
but in terms of server setup and usability, it's very rigid
forest gazelle
you cant really do that if you have 2gb per server in a bungee config
woeful tree
@drifting thistle How much is the host costing you a month for the dedicated machine?
little kelp
If one server uses multiverse for multiple game modes, I usually just leave right away
thin orbit
you can't have 60 people on one server with 8 gbs of ram and 3 multiverse worlds lol
drifting thistle
I paid a year
stone dome
ah yes, now try handling the following:
- Tab managers when you press tab
- separate acheivments for each world
- inventory management
- storing all that shit in data
woeful tree
I paid a year
How much per year then?
drifting thistle
2 something
woeful tree
2 USD?!
thin orbit
2 something?
empty matrix
2
forest gazelle
well however many you can have, it'll be more on a single 8gb server than on a single 2gb server
drifting thistle
200 something
thin orbit
what the fuck
woeful tree
Steep?
forest gazelle
regardless of any mv overhead
thin orbit
that is not a good deal in any stretch of the word
empty matrix
thats $16/month, not that much for $2/gb
woeful tree
Is this like Asia, or AUS location xD
stone dome
do you live in antartica
drifting thistle
Canada
stone dome
same thing
woeful tree
Ehh... OVH?
thin orbit
regardless of any mv overhead
it's called performance will be meh but your actual server will be shit
drifting thistle
It's my friends host
thin orbit
least you can have a good server even if it's not the greatest performance wise
woeful tree
Either way... it's kinda steep for only 8GB of RAM.
thin orbit
if you strike it big, you can always buy another VPS or whatever and move a server or two there
then you get like 4GB per server
drifting thistle
Lol I'm not doing this for money
forest gazelle
i mean arguing about whether it can be a good server or not is completely aside from the usecases for multiverse
drifting thistle
I can afford everything myself
thin orbit
i mean arguing about whether it can be a good server or not is completely aside ...
that is literally what we are arguging lol
woeful tree
Well.. you could do with some more resources.
thin orbit
good server vs one server
forest gazelle
so are you saying the only way he can have a good server with multiple gamemodes is if he uses bungee
thin orbit
essentially, yes
forest gazelle
that it's impossible to use multiverse with any success
woeful tree
so are you saying the only way he can have a good server with multiple gamemodes...
Use multiverse for multiple gamemodes is so 2015.
thin orbit
that it's impossible to use multiverse for that purpose
little kelp
If you need to have multiverse for multiple game modes, you do not have the player base/support for multiple game modes
thin orbit
multiverse is great for like, having a mining world or something
not for separate unrelated gamemodes
woeful tree
multiverse is great for like, having a mining world or something
Exactly!
forest gazelle
it's more hassle to set up gamemodes using mv than using bungee
i agree
but it's not impossible
woeful tree
This ain't 2015
forest gazelle
and it is possible to do it well
thin orbit
you'll always have cross pollutions without a significant amount of oversight from a plugin
and again, conventional plugins won't work in this case
thin orbit
ah yes, now try handling the following:
1) Tab managers when you press tab
2) se...
see this
forest gazelle
LuckPerms world contexts will work fine for the majority of plugins
thin orbit
oh permissions aren't the problem
woeful tree
LuckPerms world contexts will work fine for the majority of plugins
What do you do if you want a /shop for more than 1 gamemode?
thin orbit
LP is amazing, we all know lol
yeah overlapping commands, plugins designed for one server, separating things like chat and such, all a hassle and/or impossible with current tools
little kelp
Why have multiple game modes if you don’t have players to play them? It’s better to start with one and make that one good.
forest gazelle
What do you do if you want a /shop for more than 1 gamemode?
you can have a plugin that looks at the world you are in, and uses that to run the logic respectively
thin orbit
Why have multiple game modes if you don’t have players to play them? It’s better...
Or split your dedi into the game modes you want so they're at least playable lol
drifting thistle
My server isn't public
little kelp
Who is it for then?
stone dome
guys you're all wrong the actual answer is to stfu
thin orbit
you can have a plugin that looks at the world you are in, and uses that to run t...
oooh custom plugin costs!
drifting thistle
We have been making it for two years but the ideas keep overriding new ones
forest gazelle
oooh custom plugin costs!
🤷♂️
little kelp
Is it going to be public?
woeful tree
Hang on!
drifting thistle
Ye
thin orbit
oh boy
woeful tree
...and after 2 years, you're just decided what software you want to use xD
little kelp
If you’ve spent two years on it, why go with a bad solution?
drifting thistle
We want it to be unique
thin orbit
...and after 2 years, you're just decided what software you want to use xD
not yet, we're still trying to push a proxy
woeful tree
not yet, we're still trying to push a proxy
hahahaha
little kelp
Multiverse might make it unique, but also bad
thin orbit
We want it to be unique
Good luck, nothing is unique in this world
Minecraft is the most sold game ever
Any server idea has been tried
little kelp
Not necessarily
thin orbit
So at least don't go with a terrible one
thin orbit
🤮
empty matrix
lol
stone dome
Instead of multiverse or proxies, lets use command blocks!
sinful jackal
So im new here and I walked in on someone mentioning buying realms.....
Ok Im out
empty matrix
😂
woeful tree
@thin orbit I think this Music video's photography accurately portrays this conversation...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWGJA9i18Co&ab_channel=OKGoVEVO
stone dome
lol
stone dome
So im new here and I walked in on someone mentioning buying realms.....
Ok Im o...
i was joking lmao
little kelp
The things some people can do with command blocks is insane though
stone dome
I made bomb defusal game like valorant in command blocks
with guns
it shows titles
actionbar with ammo count
reloads
thin orbit
i dislike how that game is called "like valorant" now and not "like csgo"
sinful jackal
The things some people can do with command blocks is insane though
You are correct. Me myself I struggle with the command to give myself a command block :/
little kelp
Lol
stone dome
/give @s minecraft:command_block
little kelp
What is @s?
stone dome
yourself
little kelp
Oh
sinful jackal
copied and pasted to my notes, thanks
stone dome
it points to yourself
little kelp
I always use @p lol
little kelp
No it does closest
little kelp
@a does all
stone dome
still dangerous
empty matrix
@a = all players
empty matrix
@e = all entities
stone dome
@a is all players
stone dome
meh if it was command blocks
thin orbit
if you wanna be extra careful just tab complete your own name ;)
empty matrix
ye u can't do @s with cmd blocks iirc
little kelp
@thin orbit is for Star
thin orbit
ye u can't do @s with cmd blocks iirc
yes you can
stone dome
@s breaks with command blocks
empty matrix
lol
thin orbit
just not @s
empty matrix
❓
stone dome
❓
stone dome
Ivan passed high syndrome to Star
empty matrix
lol
little kelp
@‘s
forest gazelle
it's a game of hot potato
empty matrix
@s works but not @s
thin orbit
i was like oh yeah you can't do any ands in a command block? that's not right
woeful tree
@drifting thistle Random question... but is there any reason you went dedicated over shared/managed minecraft hosting?
stone dome
Star go pass it to someone else
stone dome
lmao
woeful tree
Oh yeah, I forgot xD
thin orbit
also, ya know, dedi allows you to do cool stuff like proxies and such
though I guess that's not of much use to this character
forest gazelle
doesn't shared also let you do that
stone dome
Its okay! we have /trigger !
thin orbit
well yeah but you gotta buy a server per
drifting thistle
You don't share your girlfriend to have sex with someone else, why would I share servers?
empty matrix
tf
forest gazelle
isn't the only difference whether or not you have the machine to yourself
thin orbit
wow that is quite the comparison
stone dome
whats that analogy
sinful jackal
You don't share your girlfriend to have sex with someone else, why would I share...
you dont? your missing out
stone dome
lol
little kelp
What?
woeful tree
also, ya know, dedi allows you to do cool stuff like proxies and such
Well... if they simply wanted to run a mc server... a dedicated server would be dumb.
stone dome
you dont? your missing out
LMAO
drifting thistle
😳🥺
stone dome
i cant stop laughing rn
thin orbit
Well... if they simply wanted to run a mc server... a dedicated server would be ...
apparently they want to run three minecraft servers!
woeful tree
apparently they want to run three minecraft servers!
3-in-1
stone dome
dick-in-hole
drifting thistle
Yes
thin orbit
if you're buying from a hosting company, you'd need to buy three separate servers lol
if you buy a dedi you can put all of em on there
thin orbit
3 separate servers? for one instance of purchase?
thin orbit
huh
stone dome
i mean yeah it is 1 purchase
thin orbit
well I don't trust providers anyways
stone dome
but you get sub stuff
sinful jackal
Or you could just use a VPS
thin orbit
VPS gang
thin orbit
Or you could just use a VPS
yeah dedi and VPS are synonymous
little kelp
Just localhost
sinful jackal
I am sponsored by Revivenode and i am switching to 64gb VPS on the 1st of next month (hopefully)
thin orbit
okay everybody tone down the advertisements
stone dome
fefo told me lol
woeful tree
I am sponsored by Revivenode and i am switching to 64gb VPS on the 1st of next m...
Go dedicated please, unless their VPSs have a good cpu
stone dome
okay everybody tone down the advertisements
Use code luckperms to receive a 25% discount on your next BisectHosting server order!
sinful jackal
there VPS is amazing to be fair, cant fault anything at all.
thin orbit
well sharing the cpu between the amount of servers you'd use that ram for is probably not the best idea
forest gazelle
well sharing the cpu between the amount of servers you'd use that ram for is pro...
🤔
thin orbit
With 64GB of ram you could have like 8 servers easy
stone dome
i think its like separate servers, but all adding up to the purchase
thin orbit
but one CPU probably can't power all of those well
sinful jackal
Yeah, but whilst I am sponsored and have a realitvley low player base it makes sense to stick with it. Dedi is always the end goal
thin orbit
That's that Mackenzie was saying, at least
forest gazelle
but one CPU probably can't power all of those well
do you mean one core?
or like a single physical cpu
forest gazelle
as in a ryzen 3600x, etc
woeful tree
there VPS is amazing to be fair, cant fault anything at all.
Don't want to knock you mate, but if you're running a server for profit, or a playerbase... it's kinda contradicting being partnered with a server host if you're advertising to the people about getting their own server.
forest gazelle
an entire cpu
thin orbit
i dunno, usually those don't scale proportionally
forest gazelle
??
you're thinking of cores with a single server instance
if you have multiple server instances you can just use separate cpu cores for each
thin orbit
how many cores we talking here bro
forest gazelle
one 5950x has 32 virtual cores
stone dome
Don't want to knock you mate, but if you're running a server for profit, or a pl...
lol he does have a point tho. We use the server for modpack testing and it is also a public server for others to play on
thin orbit
with 64GB of ram, that's a lot of cores
sinful jackal
Don't want to knock you mate, but if you're running a server for profit, or a pl...
I totally understand what your saying, im running a sevrer because I love it 🙂 Playerbase and/or profit will come or it wont......
forest gazelle
you can have 32 servers with a virtual core each
2 gb per server
assuming 64gb with the 5950
thin orbit
one virtual core per will not do well
forest gazelle
then go for one physical core
woeful tree
I totally understand what your saying, im running a sevrer because I love it 🙂 ...
What's your current monthly costs for the server?
thin orbit
still won't do great
forest gazelle
??
thin orbit
??
forest gazelle
what are you talking about
sinful jackal
What's your current monthly costs for the server?
$48
forest gazelle
how is one core not great
thin orbit
one physical core and 4GB of ram is not that great
forest gazelle
minecraft is literally single threaded, that's the whole complaint with it
1 core is very close to the most it can even use
aside from random miniscule async stuff
forest gazelle
the important stuff - the stuff you'll be bottlecapped on - is single threaded
thin orbit
yeah well if you have a lot of cores you likely have less performance per core
which is not what you want in this scenario
forest gazelle
how do you figure that
thin orbit
????
forest gazelle
??
thin orbit
have you ever bought a CPU
forest gazelle
yes
thin orbit
what's the clock speed on a 5950
forest gazelle
3.4ghz base
thin orbit
yeah
forest gazelle
yeah?
woeful tree
$48
@sinful jackal I can get you a dedicated Ryzen 5 3600, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 256GB NVMe SSD for 27.50 USD a month.
thin orbit
oh?
thin orbit
nope
forest gazelle
yes
sinful jackal
DM me @woeful tree Im interested.
forest gazelle
if that's the case then good on you
thin orbit
yes thank you
sinful jackal
I should just use this PC as a dedi host lol.
i7 9700k
64gb ram
forest gazelle
but comparing for example a 5600x and 5950x
both have the same clock speed
i believe
forest gazelle
why are you comparing different cpu models?
aren't we paying attention to core count
forest gazelle
dont we WANT to keep everything else constant
thin orbit
I said as you get more cores you tend to get less clock speed per core
thin orbit
which is bad for minecraft
forest gazelle
yeah and im saying
thin orbit
that's literally what that said
thin orbit
and I said
forest gazelle
5950 vs a 10900k
why are you comparing amd vs intel?
thin orbit
because they both makes CPUs?
forest gazelle
why are you comparing two entirely different cpus
thin orbit
that you can use in a server?
forest gazelle
when we are just focusing on cores
thin orbit
who said that
forest gazelle
yeah well if you have a lot of cores you likely have less performance per core
you did
thin orbit
do you know how to read?
that is my argument
more cores -> less performance per core
I have said the same thing three times now
forest gazelle
your argument is that a cpu with a known higher clock speed is better than a cpu with a lower clock speed
just because the other has more cores
thin orbit
AMD -> more cores, less clock
Intel -> more clock, less cores
that's my point
I never said to focus only on cvores
just that I observed that trend in my experiences
forest gazelle
correlation is not causation
thin orbit
and that you'd want a higher clock per core than more cores in a minecraft server scenario
forest gazelle
cores do not cause lower performance
thin orbit
maybe
but amd tends to have lower clocks and more cores
and intel tends to have higher clocks and lower cores
forest gazelle
and?
thin orbit
and that's my point?
forest gazelle
yeah those are their respective selling points?
thin orbit
yep
forest gazelle
is that if you have two cpus
with the same clock speed
but one has twice the cores
you can run twice the amount of servers on that second one
essentially
thin orbit
yes that is an agreeable fact
forest gazelle
with no losses
forest gazelle
i dunno, usually those don't scale proportionally
???
forest gazelle
you were literally talking about cpu cores
forest gazelle
but one CPU probably can't power all of those well
i mean look at these points you were making
in that context
thin orbit
I was talking about clock vs core
and it doesn't matter at all
so I'm going to stop talking
forest gazelle
alright
thin orbit
because you will never listen to me lol
forest gazelle
i'm reading your chat and from what I see you were saying that
one CPU probably can't power all of those (separate servers) well
woeful tree
@near folio in what way does it not work?
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drifting thistle
<@456226577798135808> how can you use so much ram for a Minecraft server?
That's how much we need to function for some reason
empty matrix
That's how much we need to function for some reason
that isn't good
whats ur server about?
you should try splitting into like three 30gb servers
assuming its different games
if it's one game type....
then something is wrong with your server
oh, might be player count
empty matrix
hm
plush hornet
Averages 60-75
how?
plush hornet
currently about 35gb being consumed
of ram?
drifting thistle
yeah
plush hornet
bro thats insane
u have your own server
there's no chance u paying for all this ram
plush hornet
that is crazy dude
i think the maximum of ram that i used was 8
lol
for a hunger games server
more than 100 people playing
over 150 kits
lol
plush hornet
we use a dedicated machine from OVH
ill check
plush hornet
1. ubuntu on a server (yuck)
2. 14.04 is literally ancient
if it works is what matter
next bear
no
next bear
yeah
next bear
mainly it is no longer supported by canonical
empty matrix
i'd assume old versions have security issues, performance, etc
and that it's not supported
plush hornet
there is many features or applications that only work in windows xp/7
maybe it is not a bad thing running this version
plush hornet
i dont think this way but it is ok
if he does not have any issues
i think its ok he run in a old version
next bear
well you are objectively wrong
empty matrix
lol
plush hornet
well you are objectively wrong
its the same saying u should not code for minecraft 1.7 dude
there is so many pvp servers that run that version
because of the features
and how the game works
empty matrix
1.7 is so hard to code with
plush hornet
1.7 is so hard to code with
yeah
empty matrix
1.8 sucks too, but because so many people use it some people still develop for it
plush hornet
it's not wrong after all
empty matrix
under 1.13 imo
next bear
don't use java 8
empty matrix
java 8 is fine for kotlin
plush hornet
you shouldn't make plugins for anything under 1.14 really
it looks like you never played the game before 1.14
next bear
I have?
empty matrix
lol i haven't been on 1.16 in a really long time and the only time i've been on 1.16 except for testing plugins was probably when 1.16 released
plush hornet
not really
empty matrix
yet i still say 1.8 sucks for coding
empty matrix
it doesn't
plush hornet
its not wrong
next bear
thats a bad attitude
next bear
it may work, but it doesn't work as well as it can
empty matrix
for example 1.14+ has a feature where you can apply data in entities and items without using NMS
plush hornet
it may work, but it doesn't work as well as it can
yeah but you have to understand that some times working in newer version doesn't work well as older versions
for example
u can't do 1.7 pvp in 1.16 pvp
and a lot of people really likes 1.7 pvp
empty matrix
then at least run a 1.8 server
next bear
ignoring the fact that I dislike spam clicking, old software is insecure
empty matrix
1.7 was released in 2013
plush hornet
then at least run a 1.8 server
the health regen is different
empty matrix
ignoring the fact that I dislike spam clicking, old software is insecure
spam clicking .-.
plush hornet
u just being close minded
next bear
no u
empty matrix
the health regen is different
then don't expect many plugin support, you're prob going to save money getting 1.8 -> 1.7 pvp than making 20 custom plugins
next bear
u refuse to use modern software
empty matrix
even viaversion doesn't support 1.7
next bear
yeah
plush hornet
then don't expect many plugin support, you're prob going to save money getting 1...
that's why i learned to code
to make my own plugins on 1.7 dude
i started coding in this version
next bear
well your users for 1.7 plugins will keep going down
plush hornet
because players and customers like this version
next bear
u would have such a bigger market if you supported newer versions
plush hornet
u would have such a bigger market if you supported newer versions
you got a point
but it does not make wrong coding in older versions
it is not wrong
empty matrix
u would have such a bigger market if you supported newer versions
much bigger
plush hornet
it just sucks
empty matrix
i've prob only seen like 5-15 plugins that support 1.7
plush hornet
i've prob only seen like 5-15 plugins that support 1.7
i can send more than 50 servers
that still use 1.7
next bear
when people are still using java 8, when I'm trying to stop supporting java 11
empty matrix
lol
plush hornet
*when people are still using java 8, when I'm trying to stop supporting java 11*
i'm not saying that u should not code in newer versions
i'm just saying that you should not say it's wrong when it isn't
it's the same of not helping someone because its spoonfeeding
many developers learned from decompiling
polar pasture
Fuck legacy
next bear
using old software be bad
plush hornet
Fuck legacy
100iq
next bear
well its immorral
polar pasture
It's pure stupidity to use outdated software
empty matrix
many developers learned from decompiling
which is a bad way to learn
next bear
I don't wanna spend my time debugging shit because people are using ancient JVM versions
plush hornet
I don't wanna spend my time debugging shit because people are using ancient JVM ...
well then don't
empty matrix
use kotlin and kotlin std 
next bear
wh
plush hornet
which is a bad way to learn
but many people did learn with this
next bear
I have to m8
plush hornet
is not wrong bruh
empty matrix
but many people did learn with this
i'm just commenting that it's a bad way
plush hornet
i'm just commenting that it's a bad way
ik
empty matrix
probably as bad as spoonfeed
polar pasture
Doubt you learned many useful things with decompiling
empty matrix
since decompile = messy code
plush hornet
spoonfeeding is not the problem
next bear
decompiling = learning from shit code
plush hornet
he is doing it wrong
next bear
m8 copy and pasting is what programming is
next bear
learning to properly steal code is a skill
polar pasture
If by "many developers" you're talking about spigot developers then all I can do is laugh
plush hornet
If by "many developers" you're talking about spigot developers then all I can do...
nah
polar pasture
Good
plush hornet
web site developers
empty matrix
wot
plush hornet
and many others
empty matrix
java supports websites?!
plush hornet
java supports websites?!
nonono
empty matrix
i thought that was like css and html and all that stuff
plush hornet
i'm saying that decompiling
polar pasture
Noone mentioned java kek
next bear
dkim u should learn webdev
empty matrix
nahhh
oh well ive never decompiled anything other than java
so idk what it looks like
🤷
polar pasture
I'm pro webdev https://frosty.op65n.tech
forest gazelle
java supports websites?!
java applets 
empty matrix
I'm pro webdev https://frosty.op65n.tech
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polar pasture
You're dumb
plush hornet
@next bear Thanks for arguing with me, it was cool having your ideas and points of view
@empty matrix same
empty matrix
uhhhhhhh ok
stuck glen
i Just bought Minecraft Yesterday and when i log in my account in Minecraft it says "paid generator has expired please generate a new one or favorite/private the alt to extend it i dont know what to do
empty matrix
where did you buy minecraft from @stuck glen
stuck glen
mojang
empty matrix
what website?
stuck glen
yes