minecraft

[slow imp]

Unless you afford to get a suitable CPU, folia won't do shit

I think the first tests were done on a Ryzen 9 and they probably still suggest a similar cpu

[primal verge]

Folia was working great on the 4 core vserver with 30 players on it (round about)

[slow imp]

Yeah.. 30 players LOL

[primal verge]

And now with a cpu amd epyc 24 cores 48threads cpu 200 players

Diffrent dimensions world chunk loading

All fine

( now Dedicated server)

Spark tps never going over 50

Paper was crashing mutliple times lol

I just wanna say, do it the folia way trust me its worth it in the end

More plugins = more usage

Thats the main prob

Thats why we need to do all custom

Folia is working like mathing on diffrent threads, so if a player use a chunk loading and and a diffrent player on the other side of the map use diffrent chunks will use their own chunks thread mathing

For example

Server crashing caused to tnt stuff or something like that will do nothing anymore lol

We made stress tests - players dont mention anything

And thats a small thing of the pros of folia in the end

[hot marsh]

I really don't understand why so many developers make server software without multi-threading to begin with. It's not rocket science that 1000s of players using the same thread would be problematic. The server software i used in the past was also didn't support multi-threading and it was written in c++. Maybe its just because these technologies were not as popular when they were made due to lack of powerful hardware of the time and changing it now would just be a large task. So im happy to see least some ppl are thinking about it.

[primal verge]

YES!

You got it

Thats why we need to support folia as a community with plugins

Then the usage will be more

And the new standard some day

I hope so

[hot marsh]

But i will also say only 20% of all servers will probably actually see the benifits first hand due to player bases just not being that large. But thats not a good reason to not do it.

[onyx flare]

hey guys, do u can recommend me some anticheat for 1.12.2?

[primal verge]

1.12.2? How does it come?

If I can ask you

Like its very outdated nowadays

There a some good, actually - depends if you wanna pay money and what they needed to do

Vulcan for example

It depends

But I'm out for tonight - see ya👋🏻

[odd ibex]

can anyone suggest me a chatmoderation plugin which has ability to block /msg or any private message and has ability to mute and stuff

[silver oak]

You can find a lot of those on Modrinth / Spigot just by searching Chat Moderation, but you can try ChatManager ( but it's a mess to config )

[strong crater]

Hello i was wondering what requirements do i have to put when making a custom shop using deluxemenu

[jovial frost]

Can someone say to me is that startup message good for server with 13 gb of ram.

java -Xms7G -Xmx7G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=50 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=15 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=20 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -jar server.jar nogui

Sorry for big message

[forest gazelle]

you can probably give more than 7gb of ram to your server if you have 13 total to work with

unless you have other apps running on it?

but yes otherwise it seems fine, you are just using aikar's flags right?

as far as ram goes i think you would be very safe allocating around 10-11gb to your server, assuming you are on linux

[jovial frost]

i'm not using vps, i'm using hosting, so i can't change things with ram, i have 13gb total to server, so did i need to change 7gb to more?

i don't want to server crash

[west flame]

If you pay for 13gb set it to 13gb otherwise the server is only using 7gb

[jovial frost]

Xms7G -Xmx7G so here both 13?

i think server will crash right

[forest gazelle]

from the aikar's flags site you sent in your own message:

It is recommended to reduce your Xmx/Xms by about 1000-1500M to avoid running out of memory or “OOMKiller” hitting your server.

again, i think setting them to 10 or 11gb is a safe choice

but definitely more than 7gb

[jovial frost]

understand.

but i really thinks server will crash very fast, but i will try, maybe im wrong

[forest gazelle]

why do you think so

[jovial frost]

maybe when server start it's start from 11gb, and load all plugins and when people join later will i think make a problem

[forest gazelle]

ok so i think you just dont understand the meaning of the flags

Xms sets the amount of RAM the server starts with

and Xmx sets the most ram the server may ever use

[jovial frost]

maybe i think so, that's think i really don't too much understand

so is that flag i put good for server or just bad?

[forest gazelle]

in other words, if you set Xmx to say, 2gb, the server will never exceed 2gb of usage (of heap, technically, but thats the vast majority of usage)

[forest gazelle]

it is good to include both

pick the amount of ram that you want the server to use (a bit below the total ram available to the system), and set both Xms and Xmx to that amount

once again, i suggest 10gb or 11gb

[jovial frost]

i set 11 gb and server now using 12 gb bc of loading all and almost 13

[forest gazelle]

what tool are you using to measure ram usage

[jovial frost]

i rn looking on normal panel

not spark or something

[forest gazelle]

what is 'normal panel'

[jovial frost]

normal pterodactyl panel on my host

[forest gazelle]

ok

i'm not too familiar with pterodactyl, but i imagine it shows the ram usage of the entire docker container

so it makes sense that it consumes more than 11gb

also if this is pterodactyl you almost certainly will not run out of memory, i have to imagine the hosts account for that eh maybe not, but point stands

anyways best way to convince yourself this is fine is simply by using the server with your Xmx and Xms set to 11gb

if it ever crashes, you can lower it

and if it doesn't then just leave it be

simple

[jovial frost]

okay, thanks.

[mystic bronze]

what

oh, nvm, he's not using a VPS

[weary scarab]

Maybe.

[clear yoke]

https://imgur.com/a/nwE60qM

[serene lotus]

You most likely have a virus of some description infecting your plugin jars, A full clean install is recommended

[mystic bronze]

@real cargo or @serene lotus

[real cargo]

not my type tbh

[unborn citrus]

Hello

Guilds work on 1.21.1?

[unborn citrus]

I would like to be sure it works before I buy it.

[mystic bronze]

idk

[shadow parcel]

yes

[unborn citrus]

Thank you!

[shadow parcel]

np

[honest moth]

Hey, I am starting up my minecraft server soon and I am really stuck on an issue, what is the best form of advertising a minecraft server? I've seen dogshit servers have insane player counts for no reasons. I've put so much effort into my server and really wanna promote it but I just don't know how. Can anyone share some tips/advice? Much appreciated.

[ancient plank]

I don’t have advice on advertising, but I do want to touch on the issues with these terrible servers having high player counts

[grim slate]

servers such as?

[ancient plank]

The reason their player counts are so high comes down to a few things. First of all, branding: they focus on fast paced action, like the life steal genre, which works perfect for TikTok / reels / shorts videos. They also pick memorable names and branding so that the name is easy enough to remember and share

[ancient plank]

90% of the Lifesteal genre

nah idk, they could be referring to other servers lol

Also, the products these servers sell are typically 1 of 2 things, either “coins” which is a way of hiding how much real money you spend to make it seem like less in the long run, and crates which is literally gambling directed at kids, but for players it’s fun to test your luck and feel special, which is how people nowadays manipulate crates

When you reinvent a popular game mode and just fix like 2 flaws the other hotspot for the mode has, you’ll get players until someone fixes your flaws

Anyway, my point wasn’t fix a few flaws of a top server to get players and be every other Lifesteal or fast paced mode, my point was these terrible servers get high player counts typically through manipulation (making player counts higher than they are - spoofing) and features that deliberately keep people on (e.g. having AFK zones to earn rewards to make player counts higher, level up’s/ quests/ prestige, etc.) along with typically being P2W and having baltop goals to strive for. Their high player counts aren’t necessarily because they put effort into their server or even have anything totally new, it’s just that’s the server people first for the mode they like and the server established brand loyalty from the stuff I mentioned above

[honest moth]

Hot take but Blossomcraft is a huge example

Like I entered the server and it is so poorly managed / developed

its a bunch of free unconfigured plugins mashed together

[ancient plank]

Haven’t been on there, but I’m sure you’re right. I haven’t been on a single major life steal that has effort put in yet

All of their discord servers have just piles of staff with an invisible owner, the announcements are done by staff, literally it’s just like a franchise type deal. Franchise of life steal servers lol

[honest moth]

Type mix

Im passionately grinding my server to release it soon and I just need ads broski

[ancient plank]

I was on a Lifesteal server doing a commission it had hundreds of people on

NPCs literally just didn’t work

Stock configs

[honest moth]

Like im not even joking, the past 4 days I've put in maybe 80hours in development..

[ancient plank]

Etc etc

[honest moth]

💀

[ancient plank]

Hey, don’t put too much energy into expecting instant an player base

And do NOT go the content creator route

No matter what people tell you

What kind of organic growth is getting some dude with a lot of subs to say “come onto this server I’ll be there!!”

[honest moth]

Yeah dont worry I have experience in this industry

been going at it since 2019 or sum

[ancient plank]

What’s the incentive to come back after your content creator leaves? Do you as the owner just hope the 2% stays because they like your server?

[honest moth]

but this server im working on rn was founded last year.

[ancient plank]

Gotcha, yeah I dunno how much you know about server stuff so I just said everything in case lol

That’s awesome tho, congrats :D

[honest moth]

Yeah anything helps

[honest moth]

Not really congrats

I have 50 members on my discord now

since my old one had like 400 members yet only 10-15 concurrent playrs.

[ancient plank]

50 is a heck of a lot better than none, ey?

[honest moth]

so I decided to purge it.

[ancient plank]

10-15 concurrent at 400 members is actually kinda decent though

A lot of people just sit in discord servers

[honest moth]

Yeah I've seen

You founded royalmc?

[ancient plank]

Yeah

Haven’t updated it in a minute and it’s kind of dead. School got me down

[honest moth]

I feel you man

I wanna show u sum of my work IG

(its not anything crazy)

[ancient plank]

Ey friend me. I love bouncing stuff back and forth

🫡

[honest moth]

Fosho

[ancient plank]

I’m working on a side project that I hope sparks some new stuff in MC but hey, tough market lol

[forest gazelle]

pp

[eternal walrus]

Hey there I’m creating a Minecraft server and needs some logos and artwork for it. If you’re interested dm me please!

[hollow viper]

@ancient plank pls tell me u there

you showcased something and I told you it's great and that I'm using the same resource pack

Do you remember by any chance? u said smth like u dmed the guy and he let you use it for your server

[ancient plank]

Yo I’m here

Quadral is the pack

Is that what you needed?

[hollow viper]

let me check

Y

E

S

thank u

[ancient plank]

yw bro :D

[hollow viper]

I was about to collapse cuz my resourcepack in itemsadder suddenly stopped working

💀

[ancient plank]

XDD

[hollow viper]

🫶 peace

[ancient plank]

🫡

[void quarry]

Does anyone know if there is any additional API, plugin supporting deluxemenu

To add movable items in the gui?
For example, every second an item changes place or for example changes the color of the glass?

[elder meadow]

hello

[elder meadow]

is anyone looking for a short creator to make shorts for their server

[free/paid]

[mystic bronze]

#1323802937616633856

[mystic bronze]

second day of posting this?

[eternal walrus]

For what

YouTube, TikTok Probaly

Also

Get on server lists

[open fiber]

Does anyone know where I can find a great developer with extensive experience?

[forest gazelle]

linkedin

or possibly indeed

[open fiber]

Honestly, I haven't found anyone who fits the profile. Most of the people I find on LinkedIn directly don't work with Minecraft anymore.

[forest gazelle]

i'm sure they will change their mind if you offer them a competitive rate

[open fiber]

The rate is $30-50 per hour

[open fiber]

I think it's quite competitive.

[forest gazelle]

$50/hr is 100k a year, yeah i agree that is quite competitive for around a swe2 (depends on area ig)

i am surprised nobody is taking you up on your offer, maybe you can enlist a hiring agency?

[open fiber]

Well, the person I'm looking for is really very accurate. I've searched on Linkedin, Spigotmc, Builtbybit, I was hoping to find someone here, but honestly no.

[open fiber]

I don't know of an agency that can give me the results I expect.

[forest gazelle]

you can try to headhunt former hypixel devs

[open fiber]

I don't really know any. And the profile I'm looking for goes beyond having worked at Hypixel, as I said, I'm looking for someone who fits my needs.

[open fiber]

A highly experienced Lead Developer. I never thought it would be so difficult to find one.

[forest gazelle]

id you want a "lead developer" does that mean you want someone that can effectively manage other devs, and take on the head role of dev etc. etc.

[open fiber]

Yes

[forest gazelle]

i think for that market rate is above a flat 100k

[open fiber]

Mmm

That is open to increasing that, obviously it must be someone who is really capable of meeting the expectations of the position.

[open fiber]

But in short you need someone who can do what you say, but must have previous experience on another server with a considerable average of players.

It is not the same to lead a team of 2 developers for a 50-player server than to lead a team of 10 developers for a 1000-player server.

[forest gazelle]

i agree

tbh i think the important aspect is just how many developers you lead, and the size of the business you were a part of

player count is not as important once you consider developers who work outside of the minecraft space - which i think you should

I dont believe it should be a requirement to have had extensive prior experience with managing a minecraft server, they are a lead developer not a community manager

[open fiber]

The problem is that, without previous experience, how do you know that what you are doing is the right thing?

[forest gazelle]

you can ask the same question to any developer that changes from one company to another

a lead developer can reasonably switch from 'My Smart Fridge Company' to 'Le Programmable Keyboard Company' or really any other tech company, because

1. as a lead developer, their role is mainly to orchestrate other developers and provide general guidance
2. as a lead developer, they should be able to easily pivot into another problem domain (like keyboard software) as long as it doesnt take vastly different concepts

vastly different meaning the problem domain takes special skills (like domain knowledge eg. advanced math, physics, etc)

I don't believe minecraft development is special enough that it takes decades to understand it well enough to lead others - at it's core, you are managing a java server application and all the normal rules of managing server applications apply

familiarity with the various APIs is obv important but that is something that can be picked up over the course of mere weeks / months

[slow imp]

A developer should not be expected to deal with the player base tbh. All he does is to code.

Get someone else that will design the game mode, create content, hold events and other stuff.

[open fiber]

Yes, I know that. But as you can understand, allocating a budget for a single person, which later turns out to be a farce, is something quite important to consider, especially when this internet world is full of scammers and freeloaders.

[forest gazelle]

am i understanding right that you are only planning on hiring one person?

[open fiber]

When I refer to a great average of players, I take it to mean that they are looking for someone who has already worked under that responsibility. Their task is to codify, but I think that their duty is also to direct for quality and excellence, something that not everyone has.

[open fiber]

Yep

[forest gazelle]

quality and excellence are not unique to minecraft servers

[open fiber]

A lead developer, at least someone who can carry out that role, without so many complications.

[open fiber]

But I'm talking about coding. There's no point in having a super good minigame that's poorly coded.

For example

And that is what we are looking for for the role, someone who has experience coding in the most correct way and who, in this way, can be an inspiration or guide for other developers.

[elder meadow]

[forest gazelle]

code is also not unique to minecraft servers

i did misunderstand you earlier, i thought you wanted to hire this lead developer to lead a team of other developers

but if you are only hiring one person to do everything i can understand why you want to put emphasis on experience with minecraft development

that being said, you should not look for 'lead' or 'senior' developers if you are only hiring one person imo

[open fiber]

I want a developer who will act primarily as a guide, applying the best methodologies efficiently to ensure the proper functioning of the server.

[forest gazelle]

ok but he is also the only developer you are hiring right?

so do you want a guide, or do you want someone that implements most of the code you are hoping for

[open fiber]

Their role will not be to tell other developers what to do, but rather to lead development.

[open fiber]

That person will not do everything, as there are more developers to balance the load. My concept of leadership is to help the team achieve the objectives, not to do everything himself, much less to send others to do it for him.

[open fiber]

Yes

[open fiber]

Yes

Currently the server codebase is really bad... So that's why I'm looking for this person.

And other developers are actually freaked out by how poorly coded everything is.

No documentation, bad practices due to inexperienced developers.

[forest gazelle]

let me put it this way:
if you want someone to lead your team / apply best practices: hire a lead developer from any tech field, not mc specific
if you want someone (one person) to make your server codez: hire a swe1 / swe2 that has experience with minecraft dev
if you want someone that is both: they a unicorn, hard to find and also probably out of your budget

[open fiber]

The person I am looking for is expected to propose solutions, better ways of doing things and doing them together with the entire team.

[mystic bronze]

I can lead your team, no worries

[open fiber]

[edgy wedge]

I want to report

a seller

how can I

has to do with #1323802935934845069

[shadow parcel]

DM @umbral lance @edgy wedge

[valid mica]

Can anyone recommend an anti-cheat for forge 1.20.1

[elder meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1212988668198002688.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=CatJam

grin

grim

vulcan

[silver oak]

Hi !
I'm making a very complete skyblock. But I need ideas for the farming system. Currently only a job is there for farming but I need ideas.

[tired matrix]

hmm

[last sierra]

Good luck, man!

[silver oak]

Because everytime I have ideas I feel like I'm copying hypixel skyblock and I'm not creative x)

[last sierra]

It would be hard to think of something that isnt copying hypixel

And its not like they have something patentednor anything, just make what u want

[honest moth]

Hey, not sure if this is related to Help chat plugins or not but how can i make those holograms without backgrounds, I saw many servers have them

[ancient plank]

FancyHolograms has it, basically its text displays instead of traditional armor stand methods

[honest moth]

I see. Thank you

[flint kiln]

Hello how can I showcase my creations?

I seems like I don't have the required rank to send messages

Oh ok fixed thanks

[eternal walrus]

if you wanna showcase your stuff I think you can send it here.

[flint kiln]

I found #showcase but thanks bro

[eternal walrus]

👍

[autumn relic]

Looks cool @flint kiln, looks a lot like Cymaera's system

[flint kiln]

yes indeed ! it's using inverse kinematics aswell

but thank you 🙂

[valid mica]

but it's only for bukkit servers? maybe i'm wrong

[elder meadow]

m not sure either

[thorny basin]

How much would you guys pay for an advanced Trails plugin on BBB?

[ancient plank]

To be honest, depends. I really wouldn’t pay for trails plugins these days, PlayerParticles is my go to for player-based cosmetics

Free and has a lot of options

But yeah there’s some things it can’t do trail-related, so it depends what it would offer

[thorny basin]

Can you check etrails?

[ancient plank]

Looks good, I can’t see much of what it can do but PlayerParticles can do very similar stuff it looks like

[thorny basin]

Wat suggestions do you have to a trails plugin better?

[ancient plank]

Tbh I’m not sure, it’d just have to offer features I can’t make for free with PlayerParticles + DeluxeMenus imo

[thorny basin]

Okay! Good to know

[valid mica]

help
players can't connect to the mod server (forge) via proxy (velocity). But everyone can go directly via IP

Не удалось подключиться к серверу zombie: This server has mods that require Forge to be installed on the client. Contact your server admin for more details.

he writes something

[eternal walrus]

Hey help chat. I’m having a problem with my velocity proxy. Every time I try to connect it says it can’t verify my player details

Anyone know how to fix this

[modest copper]

Hello

Rip, dead helpchat

[modest copper]

Do you have forwarding setup properly?

https://docs.papermc.io/velocity/player-information-forwarding

You probably want the modern forwarding

[ancient plank]

Wdym XD

[modest copper]

Idk no one chattin in here

[ancient plank]

You said that after 10 mins tho lol

[modest copper]

Idk havent been here in a few years

Im just here to help people when im bored 🙂

[ancient plank]

Fair enough xD

[eternal walrus]

Yeah, I have it set to modern forwarding

[modest copper]

Did u configure the second part on your paper server?

[eternal walrus]

wdym?

[modest copper]

https://docs.papermc.io/velocity/player-information-forwarding#configuring-modern-forwarding-for-paper

You have to take the forwarding secret and put it into the paper global file

[eternal walrus]

yep i did that

[modest copper]

Hmmm….

Does the console give an error or just ur game

[earnest monolith]

yo

@scarlet cloak

sir

big fan

[eternal walrus]

Just the game nothing shows up in the console

[modest copper]

Hmm i’ll have to look later im otw to work

Good luck if u fix it before then

[eternal walrus]

Thanks

Yeah

Lmk if you find anything

[dense saddle]

Hey guys, has anybody ever experienced an issue where when players join your server they're just falling through a void infinitely on their screen? On everyone elses pov they're just standing where they logged in but for them nothing loads in and they're just falling

We're not getting any console errors and our log files say absolutely nothing when it happens as well, so we honestly dont even know where to poke for help

[fickle pewter]

Is it a small selected few of people? I know it can happen from lag/latency

[dense saddle]

Its pretty much anybody who logs in, it actually happens to me a lot too as the owner when im on the same version thats native to the server

After like 4-5 attempts you might get logged in properly

Its REALLY annoying

[fickle pewter]

Sorry if it sounds silly, but do you know what your ping is to the server? If you join and tab, is it the full 5 bars or is it less?

And how many plugins do you have

[dense saddle]

The servers hosted in boston and im located in australia so my latency is always like 250-300, we have about 70 plugins

But the developer on the server, he lives in the state right next to it so his ms is like 15-20 and he also experiences the same problems as we do

I've had a look at our server status over the last 24 hours and our CPU has never gone above 40% usage and our RAM maxed out at 7gb when we have 12gb allocated

[mystic bronze]

well that is still a lot of plugins and latency

[dense saddle]

But im not sure if that doesnt actually mean anything about whether the server can handle it or not, we usually have 15-25 players playing at once

[mystic bronze]

which server software are you using

[dense saddle]

As in like who is our provider?

We have a VPS with Hostinger

[mystic bronze]

no, paper, spigot?

[dense saddle]

Oh

Paper 1.21.4

[mystic bronze]

usually the case is that the server is unable/struggles to generate/load chunks

are you able to stop the falling via creative mode, use the commands while you are falling?

[dense saddle]

Nah I cant use commands or stop falling

I cant talk either

I'll open medal and ill try to recreate it really quick and clip it

[mystic bronze]

well if you cant then it could be that your client is just still loading and not an issue with the server

[dense saddle]

Do you mind if I send you this clip via DM?

[dense saddle]

if that was the case though it wouldnt be every body right?

[mystic bronze]

not a professional opinion, just my guess

the ping doesnt help either

[dense saddle]

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/jEyVCalKkbYD170Xm?invite=cr-MSx4RkMsMjEwMjE0MzIwLA

Nvm I forgot I can post links here

[dense saddle]

Well the original people including myself who experienced it were all aussie so we thought that was the cause too, but then it started happening to the US players who live in the state next to boston and they're on like 10-15 ms so

We honestly just dont know, maybe we do have to upgrade the server? Even tho cpu and ram seem fine?

Then again I guess initial chunk loading probably wouldnt show on cpu and ram usage so idk, im not great with this stuff, would be easier if something just said literally anything haha

[mystic bronze]

try removing all plugins

and if it helps add them back via "binary search" method (google)

[dense saddle]

Thats a very large thing to do on something that might not help idk if im up for doing all that

Atleast not until the season ends

Ill talk to my dev about it

[mystic bronze]

well, if removing all the plugins helps at least you will know that
either some of the plugins causes it
or your server cant handle that many plugins

all you need to do is start it once and join and check what happens

[dense saddle]

Yeah and if I find out that some of the plugins cause it im gonna have to re-enable all the plugins 1 by 1 until I find the cause of it which is where the long job will come into it

So ill definitely just have to put up for it for this season it seems

[drifting thistle]

I am looking for a new owner for my server, I am giving the host if anyone wants more information - dm

[mystic bronze]

how else would you solve the issue, that's pretty much the only thing that you can do now

[dense saddle]

I didn't say i wasn't gonna do it, i said i wasn't up for doing it until atleast the season ends

So I'll do it in a few weeks or so when it'll already be down for whitelist and maintenance

[empty matrix]

try downloading the server onto your own computer and running it (there's tutorials online on how to run your own minecraft server)

that issue could also happen if the server's cpu is struggling (cpu's speed is too low to handle everything)

[empty matrix]

but you could also use this to remove all plugins and stuff without affecting your actual server

[forest gazelle]

could it be a network bandwidth issue

also, graphs over a long period of time tend to lie / hide peaks in usage, just due to the nature of needing to make 24 hours of high fidelity data load quickly - possible that you see a very momentary spike in cpu usage when someone joins, that doesnt last long enough to show up on a 24h report

[dense saddle]

We only have 300MB of bandwidth

Do you think we just have to move hosts, try to find someone good with unlimited bandwidth?

[forest gazelle]

300MBps? thats actually pretty good

[dense saddle]

Yeah okay damn

[forest gazelle]

does your host give you a graph showing network usage

[dense saddle]

Yeah it does, the highest we peaked over a 24 hr period was 214 mb but as you said the graphs aren't perfect

[forest gazelle]

if you peaked at 214 its possible you were indeed capped

because the real max is generally higher

[dense saddle]

Its also only for the person joining and only on initial join, changing worlds after you connect once won't cause it to happen again and you don't lag

[forest gazelle]

i say 300MBps is good beecause it is, but there are hosts out there that offer 1gbps or higher so maybe that is worth exploring

actually to be clear, do you get 300mb or MB or mbps or MBps

the exact phrasing is important

[dense saddle]

MB

Megabytes not megabits

[forest gazelle]

ok but there is no per-second?

so is it like 300megabytes monthly??

[dense saddle]

Wait let me double check rq

Nah per second

[forest gazelle]

okok good

[dense saddle]

Oh it is 300Mbps

I can't post images here unfortunately

[forest gazelle]

that makes more sense, network bandwidth is usually in bits

[dense saddle]

Yeah idk I'm not great at this stuff

[forest gazelle]

you said you saw it peak at 214 right? was that a graph over 24 hours?

or what was the timeframe

wait im blind

can you reduce the timeframe to less than 24 hours

ideally like 5 minutes or 15 minutes

then test join the server and see what the network usage spikes to

[dense saddle]

My developer mate said that the lowest it goes is 30 minutes, is that okay?

It seems a bit long still

[forest gazelle]

thats fine, better than 24 hours at least

[dense saddle]

We also have Spark plugin I'm not sure if that could help with diagnostics at all? I had to a few weeks ago for fixing tokenenchant and never got rid of it

[forest gazelle]

on the spark docs it does say it collects some network usage stats, i have never used it for that tho so thats something youll have to research yourself

i could see that being useful here though if you could figure that out

[dense saddle]

We're swapping hosts to OVH onto their $45/month plan, the they have 16 vcores instead of the 4 we are running and they have 2 gigabits of bandwidth unmetered

Ill try to work out spark in the mean time

[forest gazelle]

👍

[dense saddle]

So I did "spark profiler start" and then recreated the issue, then did "spark profiler stop" once I fixed it for myself. I have the link for it but im not sure if it shares sensitive server information or not?

Server Thread is at 100.00% but my mate said thats probably normal

[forest gazelle]

server thread being at 100% is rough

i think sharing the spark report is safe

https://spark.lucko.me/docs/Using-the-viewer

[dense saddle]

https://spark.lucko.me/sEhaKgVI3K

MSPT is dark red too

Whatever that is lol

[forest gazelle]

miliseconds per tick

it should be under 50, being above 50 means there was a lag spike

[dense saddle]

Oof and thats when I joined

Also memory 3.9gb, our server is 12gb ram so im wondering if thats not ram?

Idk ill let you read it hahaha

[forest gazelle]

3.9 is your max alloted ram, looks like your ram is capped at 4gb

if your server has 12gb of ram available, then you should increase your jvm -Xmx / -Xms flags to be around 10gb

[dense saddle]

If we type /memory ingame, or look on panel, it says we have 11.6gb

[forest gazelle]

how many concurrent players were on during this report?

[dense saddle]

12 atm

Its a bit of a dead hour

Most people are still asleep

[forest gazelle]

ah ic it tells me in the report im blind

[forest gazelle]

i guess it's possible that your host didn't set the -Xms flag to start at the max alloted ram

could be why the server has only claimed ~4gb for itself so far

[dense saddle]

So if we exceed 4gb usage when logging in, could the allocated ram be the issue?

Although that sounds like it would affect everybody, not just the player logging in, which is what has been happening

[forest gazelle]

nah if my guess is true then ram is fine

basically java will only decide to claim more ram as needed

so although it could grab all 12 gb at once, it only grabs little bits at a time when it actually needs them

in this case it seems to be happy with 4gb for now, so hasnt grabbed any more

[dense saddle]

Oh thats good then

[forest gazelle]

yeah and your garbage collector timings seem good so that also shows that ram probably is not an issue

as a rule of thumb, if the miliseconds are over 50ms anywhere then that's bad, if it's significantly under 50ms then that's good

your gc timings are all around 15ms so that's fine (besides gc old but that only runs once an hour so its fine)

[dense saddle]

Is that the thing were getting 12 seconds on?

We've already paid for the new server, its a lot more expensive than the plan we were on but I think itll be worth it even if it isnt a solution

Its definitely an upgrade

[forest gazelle]

yeah hopefully that fixes whatever problem is causing this

also interestingly your server is not using aikar's flags

-Xms128M -XX:MaxRAMPercentage=95.0 -Dpaper.playerconnection.keepalive=90 -Dterminal.jline=false -Dterminal.ansi=true

this is another simple change that can improve performance, these flags should be switched out for aikar's if possible

also the fact that there is no -Xmx scares me...

your report looks good overall though, which makes me thing something is going wrong that doesnt show up on the report

which again could be network, it could also be the drives your host uses

if they are using some random spinning drives that could def be the cause of latency when loading a whole bunch of chunks to send to a new client

[dense saddle]

I've heard good things about OVH so hopefully they're more optimised, ive never heard of hostinger before we used them

I'll definitely keep you guys updated on the results

[forest gazelle]

yeah sounds good, i've heard good things about OVH too so hopefully that works out well for you

[dense saddle]

Appreciate all the effort you put into helping me today mate!

[lapis acorn]

so if thats supposed to be good java arguments what is mine?

i host 11 servers with this

[forest gazelle]

those seem to be aikar's flags, so they're good

i would only set the Xms to equal the Xmx, the g1gc benefits from having access to more ram

[lapis acorn]

i thought xms was what it started with and if it needed more it could allocate up to the max Xmx

[forest gazelle]

correct

with your current flags, you are essentially saying "start with Xms, but you are allowed to use up to 'Xmx' amount"

but if you are okay with the server consuming Xmx amount (8gb in your case), why not just start with that right away?

again, the g1gc prefers having access to more memory, it would rather have 8gb to play with than 2

[lapis acorn]

i used to have it setup that way but i also would like it to decrease if theres not that many players on the current server

[forest gazelle]

why?

also, the jvm will never release ram

[lapis acorn]

oh it doesnt release? i thought it did

[forest gazelle]

as soon as it grows the amount of ram it has it will never release it until it dies

it might not use the ram for anything in your application, but to the operating system it still looks like it is in use

[lapis acorn]

I see is there a JVM argument to release unused ram ?

[forest gazelle]

i am not aware of one

why is this a concern for you? if you are worried about using too much ram you should just reduce the max limit

[lapis acorn]

interesting i actually didn't know it never released it after the allocation

i have 128gb's of ram

its just i have a server restart every 24 hrs and if it never reaches 8 gb then i suppose im giving ram more life expectancy due to not using as much ram

[forest gazelle]

ok let me make sure i understand right

you are worried about how long your ram will last before it physically burns out?

[lapis acorn]

essentially

[forest gazelle]

looking into this more, it seems like a few gc's do release memory - and G1GC will release it if you configure it to with the -XX:MinHeapFreeRatio=<percent> flag

but with just aikars flags it will never release it, i believe

[forest gazelle]

i would not worry about the lifespan of your ram

it is meant to be written to many times over, and if your java application won't then your operating system will decide to instead

[lapis acorn]

well my Minecraft servers is my Business i just wanna have it last as long as possible before i need to rebuild a new PC

[forest gazelle]

i understand

let me put it another way, i would bet that most other components of your pc will fail before your memory does (at least, from being written to too many times)

[lapis acorn]

yea i know NVME's usually only last 2 years or so

[forest gazelle]

yeah for those it's fine to be mindful of write cycles, though tbh modern nvmes can still handle a very respectable amount of throughput

RAM is fundamentally different though, there is no wear when you write to it unlike with an ssd

[lapis acorn]

right i mean i know what usually kills your ram is basically through heat cycles

thermals*

[forest gazelle]

yeah, and tbh i dont think just writing to ram more will even bring its temps up significantly

if anything its just poor thermals in the case in general that would affect it more; remnant heat from the cpu / gpu

as long as you dont regularly power off your server i think you'll be safe

and if you think about it, giving the jvm more ram will actually reduce writes to any one section of your ram

because now it is free to spread everything out more instead of focusing on the one small sliver it would otherwise be given

[thin orbit]

bro what

2 years??

i've been running my boot nvme drive for like 5 years, i had a 3TB hard drive for like 8 years no problem

either you are getting some dogshit components or you're just really unlucky lol

[cunning topaz]

^

same

[dense saddle]

@forest gazelle We just finished uploading everything to the new server and that issue as far as we can tell so far is completely gone

[forest gazelle]

big, glad to hear it

[vague apex]

What is ur server

[minor viper]

how do you guys deal with dupes for 1.21 servers

[jagged parcel]

coreprotect

[mystic bronze]

well, CO does not block/prevent dupes

[forest gazelle]

goldendupes

for more dupe per dupe

[minor viper]

im trying to block them ig this one does the opposite.

[forest gazelle]

yeah lol

sorry if my joke didnt come across as one

[minor viper]

o ok lol

[jagged parcel]

it helps you track them and undo some of the damage

[jagged bear]

I'm running Velocity and then Paper servers.... I have 3 proxies all connected via a fork of RedisBungee that works on Velcoity, we are currently working on a proxy selector in our Lobby and for all TABs in the servers to display what proxy they are currently connected to. I was just wondering if anyone knew of a method to get the proxy name in a placeholder format? I also have PAPIProxyBridge but I just can't figure it out.

We have the /transfer command setup as an alias but the players still don't know what proxy they are connected to, only what they want to connect to if that makes sense

[glass fossil]

offtop why would you need 3 proxy servers

[rapid crag]

Just curious, I have a server that supports Java and bedrock and this was a suggestion, just curious if it is possible to do if so how would I do it?

“I'm unsure if it's possible but it would be lovely to make it so when players sleep the sun doesn't immediately flash up across your screen, as it causes those with photosensitive epilepsy discomfort (myself but can apply to others) tdlr: the sun is flash banging me please help </3”

[pale arrow]

@karmic mauve dmed

[pale arrow]

resource pack, most likely? i'm not sure what you mean by the sun flashing up across your screen

[remote bay]

There are plugins that speed up the night when you sleep

[rapid crag]

Like when it is night it instantly goes from dark to bright, it can cause issues with photosensitive epilepsy.

[slow imp]

Sleep is for the weak!

[wintry torrent]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/sleep-most-1-8-1-21-x-the-most-advanced-sleep-plugin-available-percentage-animations.60623/

[jagged bear]

Because I am crazy haha.

Proxy 1 is on the same machine as servers
Proxy 2 & 3 are located near the main playerbase

Server is in Los Angeles, playerbase is in Asia

[cold nova]

Hi

[wintry torrent]

would it even make a difference since the servers are still in LA

[jagged bear]

Barely, although I have plans to get a smaller machine in Singapore to host the survival server etc and probably 1 more server...

[glass fossil]

yeah it doesnt make a difference

I mean it would if players using asian proxy would play on asian backend server

[grim slate]

Hey, I'm a developer willing to work for free. I have two years of experience in Java and am looking to build up my portfolio. My only request is that after I have completed your project, you leave a testimonial that I can use.

[eternal walrus]

#1323802937616633856

[drifting thistle]

Hey team, Have we worked out how to detect a player using x-ray texture pack yet

[knotty flame]

Learn Kotlin >:)

its def great thing especially for ur productivity

[balmy parrot]

hey so i am making a velocity network and ive been using cyberancee but for the hub world i want to make it paper and then have a way to redirect to a modded world but that makes it where when you join the hub with the modded client you get a payload error ive been looking it up it says if i add -Dpaper.disableChannelLimit=true to the startup file it would fix this but the panel wont let me add or edit any of the startup flags is there a fix for this?

[night bobcat]

guys could someone help me with a mob farm?

i followed a tutorial but the mobs just wont spawn

[stuck harness]

Is anyone here familiar with dynadot as a web host, and how to make it work with dynamap? I've tried and read through dynadot's guide on "how to add a record" and no luck, always some error. Just need a 3-5 minute walkthrough. ❤️ Ty in advanced

[unborn citrus]

I bought it, but it's giving me a lot of errors... you told me it would work... What should I do now?

[shadow parcel]

#spigot-linking

[unborn citrus]

done!

[shadow parcel]

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[unborn citrus]

So, I'd like to understand: will this plugin be supported in future versions? How can I fix any errors? Has it been abandoned?
Thanks!

[shadow parcel]

it has not been abandoned

Once your verified you will be given a role to support

And you will be granted access to the plugin for the version your asking

Since its a new version of the plugin

[unborn citrus]

ok thanks, I'll wait for the verification.

[drifting thistle]

I am looking for a new owner for my server, I am giving the host if anyone wants more information - dm

[olive jackal]

Hello! I hope you look good. I wanted to know if you are currently looking for a graphic designer. I have experience in this field and I would be happy to discuss with you if you have any current or future projects. Don't hesitate to let me know if you're interested!

Have a good day and see you soon!

[wintry torrent]

#1323802937616633856

[dense saddle]

imo Slarvion

Uhh so whenever somebody right-clicks while holding literally any item on my Paper 1.21.4 Prisons server, it for some reason broadcasts "2" and "2.5" to the entire server. Has anybody ever bumped into this issue before? We havent made any changes as far as we know for this to even happen either, I havent made any server changes for a few days and it seems to have started today

[cunning topaz]

Some plugin is doing that

[dense saddle]

Ended up working it out, it was advancedcrates with debug on

[velvet tide]

Does anyone remember how to send a player to a new server? I remember its possible now with a recent update
like you can just take them to a whole other IP without something like BungeeCord

[knotty flame]

it's a kind of send or forward packet. I dunno the exact name of it

[ancient pond]

it's a transfer packet

iirc

added in snapshot 24w03a, or minecraft 1.20.5/1.20.6

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-24w03a

[unborn citrus]

Hello, how long does it take to verify?

[shadow parcel]

=check @unborn citrus

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[shadow parcel]

to confirm you bought the plugin on the spigot account linked

@unborn citrus ^^^

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nik01137

Profile

@unborn citrus

ID:

331038070424076300

Created:

Jul 2 2017

Linked Accounts:

Spigot: Nik095

Status

Online

[shadow parcel]

when did you buy it?

[unborn citrus]

12/02

[shadow parcel]

ya we gotta wait till glare gets on and updates the db

I pinged him again

[unborn citrus]

sorry.. 15/02

[shadow parcel]

yesterday?

ye he still has to get on

he should be on tmr

[unborn citrus]

Maybe I can send you screenshot of the plugin from spigot or payment receipt?

[bright bay]

what should i add to my port

[sharp bough]

SSH

[bright bay]

nah like a mc dev thing

[tight heart]

Anyone know a good chat filter plugin for velocity?

[last edge]

I read all deluxetags wiki I do chat formater true but the tags are not visible what I should do please help me

@near plaza helppppp

@staff

@shy robin please anyone reply

[shy robin]

please don’t tag random staff someone will help you when they can.

I’m not familiar with DeluxeTags so cannot help you.

[scarlet sleet]

Hello, I am looking for a developer like me who wants to create an SMP. I am pretty experienced with Spigot & Paper API, Git & Minecraft since like 10 years... This would be a small to medium project, we create the features we find interesting, i don't plan to involve real money until we're far in the project. I am looking for someone else because I've tried doing one by myself but I am lacking some creativity, so working as a team of 2-3 would be the best for me and probably for you as we would complete each other. We would all be admins/owners on the server and obviously we would separate the work and do it in our free time as a "side project", I have a life, and you have one too, no pressure. If you are motivated, know at least a little bit at coding plugins, running a server and/or experienced with Minecraft, feel free to DM me so we can START a project together. Have a great day guys.

[drifting thistle]

Thanks. Have a great day too.

[ornate dawn]

DeluxeMenus or zMenu? Which is better?

[analog locust]

If you want the new Features from 1.20.5+ with Hide tooltips and Clear Inventory on open for more advanced texture uses then Zmenu is for you

i use DM for my Studio stuff, but zmenu for personal uses.

~~DeluxeMenu is fine, but they would be even better if they added support for the new Menu features Mojang added specifically for this purpose. ~~
so zMenu is the way for the modern stuff otherwise Deluxemenus is perfect for normal uses

Edit
look below what blitz says

[timid plover]

Some of the new features you can find in the development builds. The ones I know for sure are there: hide_tooltip, enchantment_glint_override, rarity, tooltip_style and item_model

You can find development builds here: https://ci.extendedclip.com/job/DeluxeMenus/

Clear inventory we don't have and maybe I misunderstood your message but I don't believe there is a feature for that given directly by Mojang or even Spigot/Paper api

[analog locust]

Heyy Blitz !
yehh the clear inv is a feature from zmenu

i'll check out the dev builds rn thanks for the heads up ❤️

[ancient plank]

I’ll always prefer DMs syntax and functionality

Haven’t tried ZMenu too much to know, but I tend to not change things up if there’s no reason to 😅

[analog locust]

i tried zmenu because i didn't see anything on the changelogs of DM dev builds 🫠

Thank you @carmine oak 🥹 ❤️

[carmine oak]

?

[timid plover]

You made the PR adding the features I listed above

[flint kiln]

Hello @analog locust

[analog locust]

hiii ^_^

[carmine oak]

oo

the messages didn't load because I'm in the train 😅

[hexed marsh]

Can somebody hep me check this plugin file (jar) for any malicious code. I used virustotal and it passed with 0/65 but im not sure

Dm me if you can help ❤️

[stark sonnet]

hey could somebody help I want to disable end on my server I already set allow end to false but it keeps working

[icy oak]

hi guys who can help me with crystalpvp region / arena? i can pay

[foggy nymph]

#1323802935934845069

[past magnet]

.

[frosty silo]

hey i need 1 help i am trying to create a plugin like backpack's and in that i want to make a custom lore but it look's like this a messave large amount of space will appear in the right side how to fix that ?
remember my code is fine

[gusty vessel]

if you show us your code we might be able to help!

[frosty silo]

Check you dm's i will send you there

Cause i cant send ss here

[grave oasis]

how can i make papi display player count from another multiverse world

@placid thunder help meeeeeee

[drifting thistle]

I am having the same issue.

[drifting thistle]

@placid thunder id also like some help

[dense saddle]

%server_online_(world)%

[grave oasis]

i tried this

the result was exactly what u send me, like plain text no formatting

[dense saddle]

Did you do /papi ecloud download Multiverse and /papi reload

[grave oasis]

yes

i can do %multiverse_world_name% and get the current world

anything for current world works

but cant read from other worlds

[dense saddle]

Sorry im not like an official person or anything, let me take a look into it for you a bit until somebody who is more well versed is able to help you out

[grave oasis]

okay, ty

[dense saddle]

Definitely try asking in #placeholder-api though if you havent already, thats normally a lot easier for getting PAPI support

[grave oasis]

got it

[dense saddle]

Are you using bungeecord at all?

[grave oasis]

i am not

[dense saddle]

Oh wait you wanted per world count not per server, sorry ignore me

[grave oasis]

lol all g

[dense saddle]

What if you try %world_players_<world>%?
/papi ecloud download world
/papi reload

Does that give you a number, or a list

[grave oasis]

lemme check

a number

wait

i love you

[dense saddle]

Haha it works I assume?

Love to hear it

[grave oasis]

it says 0 so im assuming it works...

yeah i tested with current world, it works. tysm

[dense saddle]

Awesome no problems :)

[drifting thistle]

Thank you sir.

[dense saddle]

All the best with your server mate

[grave oasis]

is there somewhere that i can get more commands like that?

the wiki has the placeholders formatted differently

[dense saddle]

https://wiki.placeholderapi.com/users/placeholder-list/#world

[grave oasis]

thank you

[grave oasis]

thank you

have a great day/night

[dense saddle]

you too man

[grave oasis]

❤️

[dense saddle]

For future reference, the way I found it was simply just going onto the papi wiki and typing in some keywords to try to find some placeholders. I typed in "world" to find that one, so definitely worth giving that a whirl the next time your lost with placeholders

if you get stuck again tho just lmk

[grave oasis]

ohh, ive been stuck on this one thing for 3 days 😭

got it, tysm fr

[dense saddle]

Has anyone else been unable to use the helpchat paste website at all lately? Last 24 hours or so its been saying host error

[shadow parcel]

sorry its down we are working on it

[dense saddle]

Oh nah nah no stress at all :)

[timid plover]

Hello @lilac granite. Messaging you regarding your request to verify the PlaceholderAPI expansion Movecraft

1. The expansion name from the ecloud needs to match the identifier (Case insensitive). AFAIK there is no way to change the name on the ecloud so here an admin might have to come in and remove the current expansion and have you recreate it (or I guess you can change the identifier).

2. Does the expansion have to be written in Kotlin? Considering how little code there is, having it be written in Kotlin and being 1 MB in size seems a little unnecessary.

Everything else looks good from my perspective. I'll ping @buoyant haven and @serene lotus to see what we can do about the first part.

[shadow parcel]

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[shadow parcel]

@unborn citrus sorry for the long time #guilds

[lilac granite]

1. can you double check if it can't be renamed? I really want to keep the movecraft identifier for simplicity, if that is not the case i prefer reuploading it
2. this kinda fair tbh, but the problem isn't kotlin itself, by default kotlin adds the standard lib to the project, which I am not using much so I will just nuke it an pr, just tried it and the jar size is now 10kb

[timid plover]

I personally can't with my moderator access. You'll have to wait for admins to confirm/deny.

[unborn citrus]

thank you!

[lilac granite]

alr ty

[solar sphinx]

hello I am playing in 1.21.4 and somehow the max player health its limeted now, I have a custom plugin to increase health per experience levels, but now one player is limited to 74 hearts I have the maximum set in server config but i don't know if is a udpate from paper, or maybe anothe plugin the problem is I am using the same plugins I used in my last server and worked fine last time, any idea o someone that could help me? DM if anyone can help

[buoyant haven]

I'll get on tn and see if I can fix the expansion name on the ecloud

as for kotlin, I think it's fair to say that we'll mandate expansions being in java

[lilac granite]

You could read my full answer to that part

Limit the jar size instead

[buoyant haven]

I've changed the name on the ecloud to Movecraft

as for the kotlin debate, it's a two class expansion that could very easily be converted to java, and allowing kotlin isn't a precedent I want to set

[mystic bronze]

common piglet W

k 🤮 tlin

[wintry torrent]

I would only use kotlin for bigger projects. things like expansions shouldnt be that large

[lilac granite]

You still didnt read it did you?

I got it to 10Kb

Kotlin is a glorified java transpiler with a library

If you remove the library it becomes same size as java

Just because it is 2 file doesnt mean you need to enforce your personal preference to something that can have the same storage cost as a normal project smh

ok i think this might not work after all

[calm tree]

Hello!

[lilac granite]

i might need to nuke kotlin after all i cant build it without the stdlib

[rapid ocean]

yeah even if ur not using functions from the stdlib some of the language features built in will use stuff from the stdlib

[mystic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-flender-boring-gif-17563418050878912558

[foggy nymph]

proguard can reduce stuff like that iiuc

[mystic bronze]

or just use java for 30 lines of code

[foggy nymph]

^

[mystic bronze]

just checked, not counting imports its like 130 or smt

[ivory patio]

Hello world

[forest gazelle]

goodbye cruel world

[torpid hound]

@final fern NDA to pay people pocket change is a joke

[cunning topaz]

an NDA does nothing if you don't enforce, which is again hella expensive

[pale arrow]

@warm lagoon

why are you waiting

every time i post within a minute you upvote it

i'm not complaining but why

[warm lagoon]

im sick at home bru

ion got nun to do my friends are NA

so i just sit there and look what servers have new messages

[orchid tree]

Anyone know any mod developers I want to create a mod I need help with with pay potentially

[gusty pulsar]

Deep

[gusty vessel]

can someone give me plugin ideas?

[foggy nymph]

terrain generation

[frigid fiber]

Does anyone have “custom_data” working in DeluxeMenus 1.21.4?

I have on 1.21.1 everything works, I switched to 1.21.4 , the paper that had custom data stopped being applied in the menu

[flint kiln]

For a hello world?

[flint kiln]

No it is not a java transpiler but its pretty much bloated

Kotlin is good

What you can do tho is throw kotlin in the trash and do it in java

That's why kotlin is good

[buoyant haven]

@lilac granite as long as the decompiled code is readable and not unnecessarily big then ig it doesn't really matter if you use kotlin or not. I don't think I've actually decompiled kotlin before

[flint kiln]

Well yes but all the kotlin specific things needs to be shaded into jar I believe

This is why they complained

[lilac granite]

nah i am using java in the end, i tought i could remove the stdlib without problems but it needs the stdlib to compile to so i just switched over, kotlin just compiles a .class file similar to java but with some annotations on top of it to know how to parse it back into kotlin

[lilac granite]

the repo is already in java btw

[buoyant haven]

yeah ik it compiles to jvm bytecode, but I was under the assumption that it could be structured quite differently to java compiled bytecode causing some readability issues

we don't review the gh repo, the compiled jar on the ecloud is what matters

since that's what actually gets downloaded to peoples servers

[lilac granite]

i will upload a jar when possible

[lilac granite]

alr done

[autumn zealot]

minecraft

[jagged wagon]

Anyone able to help me add mods to my server? In a voice call screen share. I can pay

[woeful tree]

What issues are you facing?

[jagged wagon]

I just can’t figure out how to do it I have watched so many videos and just can’t figure it out

Even doing the step by step ones maybe I’m just stupid

[shy saffron]

Hello everyone

Does guilds support folia core?

[primal blade]

Hello, everyone.

Nice to meet you.

I am looking for a man who work with me.

[last sierra]

Work with what

[foggy nymph]

a man

[quick needle]

hello i am looking for little help with my own rpg fishing plugin is here anyone that is willing to help me? 😄

[pale arrow]

#1323802937616633856 message
this seems off

hey @ everyone? free plugin dm me?

[tidal folio]

Dear revered HelpChat members,

I hope this letter finds you all well. I am anticipative of this writing, as it will aid me in finding not only a new friend, but a fellow competent server developer. I already own a server of the highest caliber specifications. Budget is not a problem for me. With all this being said, I still do not want to enjoy this journey alone. For more questions please DM me.

I am willing to split revenue, even though I will buy all the assets, servers, etc

tldr- looking for someone to chill in a call/talk about life, etc; all while developing an mc server.

[honest moth]

What's your server about?

[real cargo]

what letter

[velvet forum]

Whats your server about and how do you think you can get revenue?

[velvet forum]

As long as they are relatively easy, why not? 🤷‍♂️ I just charge the difficult ones

I would send screenshot of the chat I had with someone I gifted one for free but the server doesnt allow me to upload pictures

[proven hinge]

Hello

Anyone here
I want help in deluxemenus

[pale arrow]

#showcase message

Oh come on whys it 2 - 4

[soft epoch]

hey off question does anyone know this guy ?
ady_kei

[timid plover]

Try #general-plugins or #1007620980627230730

[honest moth]

Haven't heard of him.

[soft epoch]

is there a way to report scammers here?

[honest moth]

Contact staff.

[ancient plank]

or DM @umbral lance

[eternal walrus]

Yeah I do, why?

@soft epoch

[soft epoch]

He scammed me and a friend of mine

[eternal walrus]

You sure?

I’ve worked with them before

[soft epoch]

Yes he even left the helpchat server

[eternal walrus]

I think that it’s possible that their account was hacked. There’s been a lot of hacking going around recently. Because I did very positive experience with them.

[soft epoch]

I don't think so I even contacted him from another account he denied everything and blocked me.

[eternal walrus]

Strange

Would you mind send some screenshots of your conversations?

[soft epoch]

Yeah check your dm

[eternal walrus]

👍

[velvet forum]

What??

Who are you talking about?

[empty matrix]

wdym
no he's in here

albeit very inactive

[drifting thistle]

help me

my script

no works

[cunning topaz]

oh no

[drifting thistle]

here script
command /createsky <text>:
trigger:
# Generate the world name
set {_worldname} to "%player%-%arg-1%"
send "&aCreating world: %{_worldname}%..."

    # Create new empty world
    execute console command "mv create %{_worldname}% normal -g VoidGen"
    wait 3 seconds

    set {_x} to random integer between -1000 and 1000
    set {_z} to random integer between -1000 and 1000

    # Calculate the chunk coordinates and round them down to integers
    set {_chunkX} to floor({_x} / 16)
    set {_chunkZ} to floor({_z} / 16)

    # Execute forceload in the Overworld
    execute console command "execute in minecraft:overworld run forceload add %{_chunkX}% %{_chunkZ}%"

    # Set the world to the one being copied from
    execute console command "execute in minecraft:overworld run fastasyncworldedit://world"
    
    # Use FAWE to copy the chunk - FAWE uses its own way to copy and paste
    execute console command "execute in minecraft:overworld run fastasyncworldedit:/sel cuboid %{_chunkX}% 0 %{_chunkZ}% %{_chunkX}% 256 %{_chunkZ}%"
    
    # Copy and paste the chunk
    execute console command "execute in minecraft:overworld run fastasyncworldedit:/copy"
    execute console command "execute in minecraft:%{_worldname}% run fastasyncworldedit:/paste -o"

    # Unload the chunk after copying
    execute console command "execute in minecraft:overworld run forceload remove %{_chunkX}% %{_chunkZ}%"

    send "&aChunk copied! Teleporting to new world..."
    teleport player to spawn point of world {_worldname}

command /spawn:
trigger:
execute console command "mvtp %player% world"

[rich rune]

hello

[velvet forum]

Hey

[honest moth]

My server is being flooded with this, any fix?https://mclo.gs/9konF9S

[mystic bronze]

ask in CoreProtect discord

[jagged parcel]

give them money is the answer

[real cargo]

or compile it

[abstract osprey]

anyone here can help me to convert my Java Texturepack(Itemsadder) to Bedrock?

[shadow parcel]

wrong channel mb

[pale arrow]

We need a therapist in #1323802937616633856

Or some funny services profession

[final aurora]

Hey is there anybody out there that can answer a bunch of questions for me about running a server?? I’m a little confused and I’m not quite sure what I’m doing if I’m being honest, I have it in a tall and have a decent group of good players but I wanna put it into a survival server with addons later

[forest gazelle]

what are your questions

[mystic bronze]

what

[foggy nymph]

please try youtube or google before asking questions here; this is the first relevant youtube result https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FOqYhMW1Ek&ab_channel=akvaithi

you can also use smth like a start.command or a run.bat file if you're on windows to supply custom arguments to the server jar

[violet venture]

if you're talking about development, then you might wanna add the spigot dependency to your pom or gradle settings file

[flint kiln]

Hello someone has alreeady done custom world generation and know how to handle biome transition regarding noise values (e.g terrain height).

I'm using LERP with smoothstep for the step of the lerp, for the X and Z axis on biome edges with a blendfactor of 10 and then I average them but I have an artefact problem where I have werid spikes comming out

[rapid dragon]

I need help how to make rankshop using Deluxe menu ( player point, luck perms)

Such that no purchase can be made without points and no purchase can be made again

@shadow parcel

[shadow parcel]

how long do you want your mute to be?

[rapid dragon]

Help bro

[shadow parcel]

no

[rapid dragon]

..

[shadow parcel]

dont ping

and then ghost ping

like read the rules no

now you will wait till someone decides to help

[rapid dragon]

There is no help??

[shadow parcel]

Sucks to be you?

[rapid dragon]

Ok

[rapid dragon]

If anyone knows it please tell me

[ancient plank]

Read the wiki for click requirements

[void quarry]

I have this question, does anyone know a cool plugin for random teleport?

• One that allows you to assign the /rtp command to a button
• The /rtp command works
• It is possible to exclude the selection of a biome, for example, the ocean

[eternal walrus]

#development

Or #general-plugins

[gray hill]

Does anyone have a Bedrock project studio with the ability to publish on the Marketplace, or know someone who meets these requirements?
Maybe I should post this in request-paid, but I'm not sure, so I'm asking here as a regular message

[hard osprey]

Is anyone available to help me make my first ever SMP server?

[forest gazelle]

i only help with fourth ever smp servers sorry

you should just ask about specific things you need help with

[hard osprey]

Specifically, I need help with the plugins.

I don’t want so many plugins that it’s just impossible to do anything

And I want a firm understanding of how to code different things

Such as plugins

Or maybe even make my own custom plugin

[forest gazelle]

if you want to make your own plugins, the best first step is to learn how to make plain old java programs

you can find tutorials online that go over the basics of java

[hard osprey]

alr

ty

[foggy nymph]

I will say that a lot of these plugins exist for a reason and even if you can code plugins, you usually don't want to because it's not time efficient

[upper condor]

Support team - how do I report someone, I put an add out for a graphic designer and they arent responding, was meant to be done last week... clearly a scam - they came from this discord. They added me through my post here and clearly need to be banned as dont want them to go on an scam other users...

[sharp bough]

Dm @umbral lance (iirc)

[shadow parcel]

Yes ^

[upper condor]

Ty

[eternal walrus]

Yeah I can help you

Wanna go DMs?

[hard osprey]

Sure! Thanks

[eternal walrus]

Alright dm me

[thick gate]

hi

[drifting thistle]

Hi

[brazen loom]

How do we discuss about stuff in #showcase ?

[woeful tree]

Any channel but showcase. 🙂

[brazen loom]

Ah ok!

[toxic kiln]

im trying to make my GUI sounds correct when player is offline but im not sure if the grammar is good or too long in 1 line

title: Grant GUI › Error Found :(

material: structure_void
name: "&c&lERROR! &7The player is currently offline."

material: book
name: '&fThe below follwing target player is currently &coffline'
lore: 
- ''
- '&f%cp-player%'
 - ''
- '&fOnce the player reconnects, everything will be back to normal.'

[buoyant crown]

Hello

[jagged parcel]

could it just be

name: '%cp-player% is currently offline'
lore:
 - 'Once the player reconnects to the server' 
 - 'Everything will go back to normal'

[zealous dragon]

@near lava dm

[hollow gull]

is there a way to disable creative saved hotbars for the whole server?

[velvet forum]

Hi!
If anyone wants a high-quality Minecraft plugin for your server for a reasonable price, just DM me

[forest gazelle]

#1345491567766671421

[tall sun]

its custom-made

if you want ill share a link you can buy mine

from bbb

its name goldshop

ill setup it for you if you want....

[lunar raven]

anyone know how to add custom ranks icon for prefixed in fabric?
i know spigot is easy but idk how to do it with fabric

[toxic pulsar]

never done it so might be wrong but i assume u just use Luckperms with a mod that formats chat

aka same way as spigot

one of the first ones i found
https://modrinth.com/mod/styled-chat

[brazen loom]

@alpine oxide how does the GUIs here work? #showcase message

[alpine oxide]

With a custom texture pack and deluxemenus. You can check previous messages of me in that channel for further examples

[brazen loom]

Ah!

[toxic pulsar]

u manually make all the menus right

[alpine oxide]

ye

One thing I still feel proud about, is this Enchanting table GUI. The runes/glyphs are actual separate items you can use (hence the odd spacing)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452279708856614912/1045715718580211792/2022-11-25_15.56.17.png?ex=67d05027&is=67cefea7&hm=c307904883d3fd1f6e6180a9989dde35286541211d58f9cf42d27b493166dd4b&

Maybe with some offset magic could I add those via the title... But I don't want to touch this stuff yet...

[compact sapphire]

shift:-1

:>

[alpine oxide]

What kind of syntax is that :/

[real cargo]

thats nexo n oraxen not ia

💀

its :offset_-1: in that case

[tribal thorn]

@desert fulcrum accept dm please

[alpine oxide]

Also, that only does horizontal offset, not vertical

[molten crag]

Is it worthwhile making a 1.21 server, or am I better off making a 1.20 one? Have enough plugins updated to 1.21 to make it viable?

[ancient plank]

1.21 has been viable for months

Imo, if you have any plugins that haven't updated to 1.21 by now, it's not worth using at all, wayyyyyy too slow of an update cycle

[woven adder]

i need help, i started a 1.7.10 modded smp but im having trouble finding players

[woeful tree]

Find a community that plays the mod on 1.7.10?

[woven adder]

where can i find a fisk's superhero mod community for 1.7.10???

[woeful tree]

Google

[buoyant crown]

@woven pollen unlock your DM's

[woven pollen]

Weird I got people messages just fine except for some I guess

Turned off filter should work now

[buoyant crown]

I can't message you, could you add me as a friend?

[woven pollen]

I turned off
blocking message should be fine now.

[buoyant crown]

idk i can't send you dm

[woven pollen]

Okay

[molten crag]

Yeah, that's pretty fair. Thank you!

[sleek marsh]

Hi chat

How do i get green name

[forest gazelle]

kill a green person

[tawdry geode]

guys

someone help me pls

[split horizon]

Love that you provided all the needed logs, issue descriptions, what you have tried, what versions of the plugin or whatever else you're using is 😄
-# /s

https://dontasktoask.com/

Never mind seems you crossposted lol

[sleek marsh]

🔪

[vernal ore]

Hey all, I feel like my sever doesnt rlly have a direction to it and it seems kind of confusing. How can I get it on a single direction / theme?

[zinc tartan]

Hi, I’m trying to configure an item in my menu using and I want to make it completely inaccessible to players. Specifically, I want the item to appear as part of the menu without any interaction or visibility. I don’t want players to be able to hover over it, see its name, or have any other information displayed when they move their cursor over it. The item should be completely non-interactive and invisible in terms of its details. How can I achieve this? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

1.12.2 deluxemenus

[torpid grove]

Come up with a concept that you enjoy, or find some inspiration, map out what you want to do and what your ultimate goal is with the server & remain on that path. Ask yourself questions.

It can be tricky to stay on that same path, especially if you find another concept that you like, or if you see a feature that you'd like; however you've just got to keep at it, or find a way to implement that feature without straying away from the main idea.

[toxic kiln]

i need an alphabet player head which u could see the letter even with gui scale set to 2

[zinc tartan]

??????????

[dim folio]

Anyone got a free host ?

[mystic bronze]

oracle vps free tier

[ancient plank]

not possible in 1.12.2

[zinc tartan]

🥲

[ancient plank]

the hide_tooltip attribute was added in 1.20.3 or whatever it was

You can do everything besides the hover restriction

Check out view requirements, priorirty, click requirements, etc on the wiki

[vestal mulch]

how i can use anvil gui in a deluxe menu ?

[timid plover]

set inventory_type to anvil

you won't be able to customise or make use of the text bar in that inventory though

[vestal mulch]

i want to make a shop and for exemple u click on item to buy custom prefix, after that is open a anvil u write your prefix and that text go in comand variable.

[vestal mulch]

size: 27
open_command:
  - "customprefix"

items:
  enter_prefix:
    material: NAME_TAG
    slot: 13
    display_name: "&aSetează Prefix Custom"
    lore:
      - "&7Scrie în chat prefixul dorit."
      - "&7Exemplu: &6[VIP] "
      - ""
      - "&eClick pentru a introduce!"
    left_click_commands:
      - "[close]"
      - "[input] customprefix_%player_name%"
      - "[message] &eScrie în chat prefixul dorit."

  reset_prefix:
    material: BARRIER
    slot: 15
    display_name: "&cResetare Prefix"
    lore:
      - "&7Elimină prefixul actual."
      - ""
      - "&eClick pentru a reseta!"
    left_click_commands:
      - "[console] lp user %player_name% meta removeprefix 100"
      - "[message] &cPrefixul tău a fost resetat!"

  back:
    material: ARROW
    slot: 26
    display_name: "&cÎnapoi"
    left_click_commands:
      - "[opengui] main_menu"
  
actions:
  customprefix_%player_name%:
    command: "lp user %player_name% meta setprefix 100 '%value%'"
    type: chat
``` like this

[jovial frost]

Hello, i need really big help.

I this season started using folia software for my server and it's working better as before but sometimes server just froze and tps get down to like 17.
Sometimes when server reach 90 players or more server totally get bugged and tps go to like 2!
Here is my before spark profiler.

https://spark.lucko.me/wmC4oEigci

[timid plover]

Its not possible with DeluxeMenus. However, you can use DeluxeMenus + CommandPrompter to achieve exactly this.

[brisk star]

deluxemenu: when will the update to 1.21.+ be?

[stuck hare]

there is?

[timid plover]

Don't know when it will reach spigot but you can get it right now from here: https://ci.extendedclip.com/job/DeluxeMenus/lastSuccessfulBuild/

[white oasis]

Hey! does DekuxeMenus works for 1.8.9?

@worn hornet

[timid plover]

1. Please don't ping staff members. They are volunteers giving up their free time to help people.

2. Yes but you have to use an older version of DeluxeMenus. More specifically: 1.10.5. You can find older versions of the plugin on Spigot, in the Versions tab.

[loud kayak]

hello, hope everyone's having a great day. I just wanna ask how to fix my server because all noteblocks doesnt change tone and it cant be activated with redstone. please help. thank you

[pale arrow]

Paper settings

It has a noteblock configuration in one of the paper settings configs

[loud kayak]

already made it false and true but neither work

[pale arrow]

Conflicting plugin

Probably then

Maybe your sounds are off

Thats an option as well

[jagged parcel]

use paper dumplisteners to check for it perhaps

[modest schooner]

I am updating my server to 1.21.4 but when I did I now keep getting this error in console anyone possibly know how I can fix it?

[15:48:27 ERROR]: Got an error with a html body connecting to https://api.minecraftservices.com/minecraft/profile/lookup/bulk/byname: <html>
<head><title>403 Forbidden</title></head>
<body>
<center><h1>403 Forbidden</h1></center>
<hr><center>Microsoft-Azure-Application-Gateway/v2</center>
</body>
</html>

[cinder portal]

1

[split horizon]

Mojang API going down

[hollow forge]

hey! does anyone know a builder?

[remote bay]

#1345491572531400745

[real cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/bobby-gif-801717548194763122

[bronze mantle]

hello, i would really appriciate if any one could help me with this promblem: my friend and i have a private mc server and i am playng on a paid mc acc and he is using tlauncher, both on the lastest version of minecraft and both using optifine, there is this resource pack named "ItemBound Rebound" that relies on optifine beacsue you can rename items and make them look different, i download it and activate it and it works perfect, he tries it and it doesnt work, we tried checking his settings or other resource packs and it seems its a promblem that only occurs with resource packs that reley on optifine on tlancher (eg fullbright), because he can run shaders which need optifine, he can use normal resource packs, but for some reason resource packs that require optifine dont work, any idea to why? thanks to anyone tht answers and ik this is quite the paragarph 😅

[mystic bronze]

step 1 -> don't use TLauncher

[warm token]

yo, it's possible to use a drop_requirement: or drop_commands if the player press the drop keybind on an item it executes something ?

[fair plover]

Hello, I wanted to know is it possible to make the ranks evolve over time through luckperms?

[timid plover]

Assuming you are talking about DeluxeMenus here. The answer is no. It would also be very hard (maybe even impossible?) to do something like that since there isn't an event or even a packet to tell you distinctly where the item was dropped from. At least that's what I remember.

[timid plover]

Just luckperms, no. You would need something else (a plugin) to trigger the rankup (rank swap). There are plenty of plugins that let you trigger commands on specific events, or you can let the player choose when they rank up by having a custom command (with MyCommand or something similar) or a custom inventory (with DeluxeMenus or something similar).

[warm token]

some servers I play on have this specific feature where you can use the drop key to do specific things

thats why I was curious haha

[fair plover]

I need it to evolve on subscription renew (I am using tebex)

[west flame]

PlayerDropItemEvent

I don't think he was talking about a specific key-bind.

[timid plover]

Well, he wants it to be specifically out of a menu and that's more what I was talking about

PlayerDropItemEvent doesn't tell you where the item is coming from

[west flame]

Could just match the item to the slot.

Actually I think an inventory event is ran when you drop an item from the inventory.

Yeah InventoryClickEvent.getAction() is equal to one of the drop actions.

[white hull]

Anyone know how to get Guilds to setup worldguard regions with predefined flags put into the world guard area?

[buoyant ivy]

technically you could put some data into the item's persistent data container when placing it into the menu and check for that data on drop

[west flame]

There is an action for it in InventoryClickEvent

[wintry torrent]

what do you guys think about the new ghasts

[ancient plank]

Good

Different but good

They need to keep doing stuff that we won’t expect or think isn’t “minecrafty”

[mystic bronze]

idk kinda weird addition

[ancient plank]

Weird yeah unique fornsure

[mystic bronze]

anyone knows where can I find the default minecraft structures? for ex. I want to make a datapack that removes the chests from mineshafts and dungeons (those with mossy cobble and a spawner).
not sure where to start

[random mortar]

guus pleeease someone help me with the server #1345491570719330374

[pale arrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1285847794497753143/1352757444664623114/maximum-tension.gif

[mystic bronze]

same

[flat sand]

Id suggest makeing a mc structure file, and get it your self, all you would have to do i think would be do /give &s structureblock, place it down, set up the size you want to save, and export it to your folders

from there, maybe you can ... make a world pack? or sum idk

[late merlin]

hello

[flat sand]

any idea on bedrock .dll made in java or translated for java coding like c#?

[hoary heron]

Anyone know how to use the more fish mob head plugin

[drifting thistle]

wym like a rewrite of the Minecraft Server in other languages?

[frigid musk]

yo if somsone could can you hop on a call with me and help me cause my minecraft keeps lag spiking every like 5-8 seconds, I havent played in like 4-5 months and this is new. so if anyone could help me or knows what this bug is please lmk 😭

[placid finch]

did anything significant change from 1.21 to 1.21.4 with resource packs? e.g. do i need to do anything except update the pack format?

[burnt goblet]

hey!

hows everyone doing?

[wanton monolith]

hello is there support channel ?

I can't use the deluxemenus menus I used in version 1.16.5 for 1.21.4

[flat sand]

yeah, I want to rewrite a bedrock server that uses Nukkit, and make a custome .dll for bedrock,

[flat sand]

update windows, update drivers, if that, then update minecraft, or your mods.

[somber jewel]

Is there a known fix for Fancy Pants method after 1.21.5 release?

[west flame]

Gonna need some context there lol

[wintry torrent]

🤔

[toxic pulsar]

sorry if already asked question, but has there been a solution made for making java item menus work with bedrocks menus, ive seen some plugins that basically serve deluxemenu functionality but in bedrock menu form. But is there anything that does it for plugin made menus for example?

[errant juniper]

When I press esc, I want to prevent the part that says Player Reporting from being clicked. How can I do this? I am using version 1.20.1.

[west flame]

I don't think you can remove it but I think you can prevent usage by disabling signatures.

[errant juniper]

How can I disable this feature?

[west flame]

I'm pretty sure its a config option. Never looked though.

[errant juniper]

Uh.. first of all, thank you for your answer.

[night lantern]

Can staff tell me what was invalid with my request ?

It is 5 USD, not a extremely low reward

[serene lotus]

The channel is to request a service, your request is not deemed a valid service

[frosty fable]

@lyric pond is scammer btw

dont buy things from him

btw

i paid him like 60€

he gaved me broken files

@lyric pond wake up

[west flame]

Use /report and provide proof. Let staff sort it out.

[frosty fable]

yeah

i go do that

i did on the paypal same

so i hope i will get the money when i dont paid by family and friends

[frosty fable]

btw for infomations, he is selling open source stuff from github

so dont trust him

😄

[drifting thistle]

Is there any way to prevent players from using mods like journeymap on a vanilla/modded server?

[crude garden]

Is there a Live Sync Minecraft Map Mod? Where the Map data is synced between All Players?
Could also work like Jouneymap/BlueMap but should be displayed ingame too